1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing, man, Man, I'm good. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. It's uh. It's an exciting time because at 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: least when I turn on TV, I'm beginning to see 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: football highlights. Guys are just conditioning and stuff like that. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: But you get the sense that things are coming back. 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: We're beginning to talk about real football stuff. We're begin 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: to see guys kind of going through the motions and 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: working out. I'm fascinating. I'm excited. I'm excited to see 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: what takes place. One of the things I was thinking 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: of was, you know how, especially when you're scouting, like 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame game would always kind of sneak 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: up on you. You'd be just going about your day 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa wait, said, I just turn on 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: the TV, like's a football game on. If you thought 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: about the fact that's gonna be a regular season game, 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: like we're gonna be, you know, kind of not seeing 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: a lot and there's only a couple of weeks of 20 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: practice and your clock is going to tell you, well, 21 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen all this stuff. We haven't had preseason games, 22 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: so the season is still like a month away and 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden like boom, like we're playing games. Here, 24 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: we are playing games, and this is so different. But 25 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: I think DJ, you and I have been close enough 26 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: to the college game, it's really not that different. Uh. 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: It just kind of depends on if you're coaching staff 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: can kind of adapt to how college football teams prepared 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: to play. Because if if we were dealing with the 30 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: college game primarily, this is what would happen. You would 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: get a couple of weeks and then before you know it, 32 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: there would be some kind of kickoff classic that your 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: team is playing in. And I think NFL teams and 34 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I think Bill Belichick said it eloquently when he talked about, Hey, 35 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: college teams have been doing this for years. So we 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: just have to prepare a team to get ready to play. 37 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: We have to go through the process of blocking and 38 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: tackling and learning the fundamentals. But when they kick off, 39 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: whenever the opening game is, we need to be ready. 40 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: But in talking to somebody, because I talked to a 41 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: couple of coaches and they said, this year, unlike other years, 42 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: your team will kind of have to work itself into 43 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: shape the first quarter of the season. That first game, 44 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: no matter what kind of fitness and conditioning stuff that 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you've done, is going to be overwhelming for everybody. Uh DJ, 46 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: You've been on the sidelines doing those opening games and 47 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: you've seen guys weason and you can't hear your breath. 48 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: You're trying to see it as as a player, I 49 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: can remember just trying to hold on for dear life 50 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: until I can kind of get my breathing under control 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: in those opening games. And it's going to be like that. 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: But typically about about week two and week three, everyone 53 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: is kind of actimated to the speed and the intensity, 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: and then it becomes about the execution, and sometimes it 55 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: takes about four or five games to get everything kind 56 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: of button down. And that's why you'll see some teams 57 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: get better and better over the course of the season 58 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: and play their best ball heading down the stretch. And 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: you hope that you win enough games early that when 60 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: you're playing your best, it's still matters. All right. You've 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: you've led me to a point that we weren't even 62 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna discuss. But that's what's so great about these conversations, 63 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: as we can go into some new ground. I do 64 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: want to let everybody know what's coming up. We're gonna 65 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: talk about the opt outs we've had now a couple 66 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: of premier college players have opted out, tip of the iceberg. 67 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: In my opinion, you're gonna see a lot more, but 68 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna discuss it. At also going to discuss opt 69 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: outs we're seeing from the NFL level with some big 70 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: name players opting out and then the news that just 71 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: came out today about how that will impact the salary 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: cap and what that could mean maybe for some extensions 73 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: for some teams. Uh, we're gonna touch on that as 74 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: well as UM the the strategy some of the different 75 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: strategies teams are taking in regards to being able to 76 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: quarantine players and kind of create an individual bubble. So 77 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: we want to talk about some of those those things. 78 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: But you led me to a point, Buck, I've never 79 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: thought about this, UM, but you're saying we've talked about 80 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: the stress on communication that you know, the question of 81 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: whether or not you can be in shape. Um, some 82 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: of those issues led me to believe if you're a 83 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: veteran team, if you're a team like the Saints, or 84 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: you're a team that has your nucleus has been together 85 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: for a long time. Man, what a year to go fast? 86 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: You know you talk about we've seen and then the 87 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: NFL game kind of adopt some things from the college 88 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: game and try and pick up the pace a little bit. 89 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly kind of ushered that to the National Football 90 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: League and we've seen a lot of teams adopted changing tempos, 91 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: some trying to go to me, Man, if you are 92 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: buttoned up offense and you know everything, I am gonna 93 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: go as lightning fast and make this team that has 94 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: had no offseason, with new coaches and new players, try 95 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: and communicate in a very condensed amount of time. That's 96 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: a great point. That's a great idea, and I think 97 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: it's a great idea for all teams, but for veteran 98 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: teams and veteran quarterbacks, it really makes sense because when 99 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: you have a Drew Brees or Tom Brady, guys who 100 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: have seen everything. By going fast, you're able to control 101 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: and dictate and allow your quarterback, your best player, to 102 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: really put your team in optimal positions each and every play. 103 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: It makes sense when you're the Saints because you've had continuity. 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: He has so many guys they have hand signals, they've 105 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: they've done this a ton on the practice field, so 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: it's a natural advantage. But I also think it's an 107 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: advantage for the teams that haven't been together UHI, or 108 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: teams that have young quarterbacks. When you go fast, the 109 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: advantage of going fast you simplify what the defense can do. 110 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: You don't see as many exotic pressures, you don't see 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: a wide variety of coverage because communication is the priority, 112 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: and coaches are scared to really open up the playbook 113 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: when they worry about everyone getting the call. So if 114 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: I have a young quarterback like a Joe Burrow, who 115 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: is very comfortable operating a system fast where he has control, 116 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: I might think about jump starting the offense by going 117 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: fast all of the time to limit what the defense 118 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: can do. It eliminates and reduces some of the variables, 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: which should allow the young quarterback to play better. All right, 120 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge you here because I know you You 121 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: played in the k gun there, and you guys were 122 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: one kind of one of the first teams that really 123 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: cranked up the speeds, uh, the speed of the game. 124 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: Can't remember Nolan Richardson coached at Arkansas. Remember do you 125 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: do you remember the nickname of the way they played 126 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: or the style. Yeah, forty forty minutes of hill, forty 127 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: minutes of hillet. Uh, pure pure pressing. On the side, note, 128 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: when I coach right now, you knew that buck when 129 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 1: I when I coached my my son's wreck ball teams 130 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: when he was like seven, eight nine DJ, we were 131 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: a four core press team because when you have little kids, 132 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: you can't put in the offense, so just create turnovers 133 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and shoe lay up. So all we did was pressed 134 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: and shoe lay ups. But I like that you bring 135 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: that up forty minutes of hell because when you're going fast, 136 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're not only reducing the variables 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to what you see from the defense, 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: but now you put conditioning at the forefront of everything. 139 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: And with these big guys not being able to rotate 140 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: guys in and out the game, if you're able to 141 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: have success a couple of drives in a row man, 142 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about wearing down a defense, especially if it's 143 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: a defense that they want to have the big guys 144 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: up front, meaning three plus pounders, you got your run 145 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: stoppers or whatever, Well, you never let those guys off 146 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: the field, so then the pass rush eventually leaves. Go 147 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: back and think about the Atlanta Falcons New England Patriots 148 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl when Atlanta had that big lead, but they 149 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: were forced to be in a pass rush mode against 150 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady playing fast in the third and fourth quarter. 151 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: We saw them wilt and he eventually had his way. Becauld. 152 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: See some teams gained an advantage by doing that. Yeah, 153 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean to me, I'm look at the team that 154 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl. That's what's scary. I mean, 155 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: I I don't think it's far fetched to say that 156 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs in this environment can be more 157 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: dynamic and more explosive than they've ever been because you 158 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: have the relationship between Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. You've 159 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: got the majority of the skill position players all the same, 160 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: the offensive liners, very little turnover offensively, same coaching staff. Um, 161 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: they should be able to go fast. And to me, 162 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: I think about the movie like Who's yours? Like where's 163 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: the ball? Are we gonna use the ball? Like you No, 164 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: we're not practicing with the ball like this is this 165 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: is that's where we are right now. You can't really practice. 166 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: So the teams that are taking this time right now, 167 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: this kind of ramp up period to really get themselves 168 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: in phenomenal shape. Man, That could have a huge payoff 169 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: form to start the season and maybe even throughout the season. Yeah, 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: I think you can have a significant advantage that tempo 171 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: thing that you you speak on. I think it matters, 172 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: and it doesn't always have to be no huddle tempo. 173 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: When I was with Mike Holman with the Green Bay Packers, 174 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still is used to always give us problems because 175 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: at the time they were one of the only teams 176 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: that were rented three or four defense. They did the 177 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: zone blitz stuff that was very, very complex and hard 178 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: to pick up. So what we would do DJ we 179 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: would go on first sound all of the time. And 180 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: the reason why we would get in the huddle, get 181 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: out the hoddle, get to the line. Going first sound, 182 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: you eliminate the pre snap reads, You make them get set, 183 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: get lined up, and and and so. Once again, with 184 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback that understands what he's looking at, it's 185 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: a huge advantage. So whether you go tempo, no huddle 186 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: or tempo, quick pace, fast rhythm, man, you can give 187 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: your quarterback in your office a significant advantag especially when 188 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: you only have three or four weeks to work your 189 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: team into shape. Defenses are going to be playing on 190 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: the heels. Uh from the jump the way this season 191 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: is appearing to line up. Yeah, I'm thinking about some 192 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: other teams that could do this. I mean, off the 193 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: top of my head, Philadelphia Eagles could do it. Philadelph 194 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: Eagles could do it because you've got Went and Doug 195 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: Peterson who have that you know, a long relationship there. Baltimore, 196 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: you talked about the way they play naturally lends itself 197 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: to play in this way. Um, the Rams, you know, 198 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: with McVeigh and Golf, you know, having a good chemistry there, 199 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: and I think you've got a lot of the you know, 200 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: the same pieces on the perimeter. Um, they could be 201 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: another team that should be able to go pretty fast. 202 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: I think that that Arizona obviously from Kingsbury's background, they have, 203 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: uh the ability and that's what that offense is at 204 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: its best. They're humming like that and rolling. Kyler Murray's 205 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: played in that style of pace. So they could be 206 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: another one. I mean, Seahawks have had continuity. There's there's 207 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of teams and you kind of start rolling 208 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: through this that have had some continuity here with the 209 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: head coach, the quarterback, and most of their offense to 210 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: be able to really crank this thing up. Yeah, the 211 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: team that you mentioned, and I think we'll be fascinating 212 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: to watch. Teams already have had a tough enough time 213 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the Baltimore Ravens are doing 214 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. Uh, the option stuff that they do 215 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: really test the discipline of your defense. And so even 216 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: though teams have had all offseason to break this down, 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: now you're trying to get your team ready to play 218 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: against something that is unconventional. Lamar Jackson played fast when 219 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: he was at Louisville. Imagine being an up tempo team 220 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: that is really run heavy. That is the thing that 221 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: we haven't seen. And if you go back and you 222 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: really think about Chip Kelly and why he did it, 223 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: chip Kelly operated fast so we could get the running 224 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: game untrapped. Because if you pick up three or four 225 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: first downs in succession, the defense gets tired and now 226 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to lay on those blocks. You you're 227 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: slow to get off and get into the running game. 228 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I think Baltimore could have a huge advantage with the 229 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: option attack that they run. I think we stumbled onto 230 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: something here just kind of accidentally that I think this 231 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: is uh, this is gonna be fascinating to watch now. 232 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I think it is fascinating to watch from day one. 233 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: If you're a defensive coordinator, I think you have to 234 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: put some drills in and when these teams are talking 235 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: about more scrimmages, I think you could see this be 236 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: a big part of that. It may not be live 237 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: to the ground, but third tempo, hurry up offense, tempo offense, 238 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: going back and forth. The quickest way to work your 239 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: team back into shape is to make your practices like 240 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: this so they have to actlimate to playing fast and 241 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: communicating and those things. I would be more apt to 242 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: do this from day one to jump start the conditioning 243 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: of my team. So I talked to a coach and 244 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: this is uh, one of the better teams in the league, 245 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: and he said that they've done all their homework on 246 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: this and trying to get ready, you know, and a 247 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: lot of it studying the college game. And he said, look, 248 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: we are going to be tackling to the ground. It's 249 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: something that we don't ever do, you know, because you 250 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: get some preseason games with that. Maybe it's one small 251 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: period here, they're very very little tackling takes place on 252 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: NFL field during training camp. He said, now this year, 253 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: we're going to tackle more in the in the timeframe 254 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: we have than we ever have before. We're going to 255 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: go to the ground because we have to get those reps. 256 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: I thought that was fascinating to me. We do never 257 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: hear anybody talk like that in the NFL. Yeah, so 258 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. But I want to have effective that would 259 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: be And part of this might be because I've been 260 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: studying too much Ivy League stuff and Buddy Teevens and 261 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,359 Speaker 1: Dartmouth because they don't practice at all. They don't they 262 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: rarely have live tackling. They do everything with dummies and 263 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: bags and the robotic dummies that we've seen and some 264 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: simulated things that the Seahawks have actually made famous. I 265 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: do wonder how many teams are going to go over 266 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: the top when it comes to trying to get their 267 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: physicality and toughness in their practices, but how it's going 268 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: to work to their detriment when it comes to having 269 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: a tired team or a beat up team when we 270 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: kick off the regular season, or this coach was even 271 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: he even said this, he said, look, there's going to 272 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: be some casualties, like we're going to lose a couple 273 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: of players because of this, but we feel like they've 274 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: done their homework on it. They feel like that the 275 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: good outweighs the bad. Um you know, in the NFL, 276 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: it's just so funny because you always talk about we 277 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: want to get to the starting line with all of 278 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: our guys healthy. That's all anybody cares about. And this 279 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: was like a kind of a throwback mentality of they 280 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: think they can find an edge over the rest of 281 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: the league if they have a more physical camp than 282 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: than the other teams. It's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting, 283 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: and I do want it because we've also heard in 284 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears talk about last year they gave their their 285 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: players off during the preseason, they didn't play the starters, 286 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: and we've heard Matt Naggy kind of regret taking that approach. 287 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: And so typically, if you do something in your succeedson 288 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: your season isn't successful, you kind of reverse the trend 289 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: and go back to the other way. So with the 290 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: physical practices, when you talk about taking guys to the ground, 291 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: the one thing that I would caution is be careful 292 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: of beating your team up too much, because no matter 293 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: what you do with the preparation phase, the speed of 294 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: the game when it comes to the regular season is 295 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: so different. And whatever you can simulate and practice that 296 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: if your guys are beating up up, if they're slow, 297 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a tough time dealing with a fresher 298 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: team that plays at a as a rapid at a 299 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: rapid pace, that are really moving up and down the field. 300 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to talk to to veach Um to 301 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: see what Andy has done in training hand to the 302 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: last few years because when I was with coach reading 303 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: with Philadelphia, they went to the ground way more than 304 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: we did in Baltimore. H oh really, which would shock 305 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: people because I think they'd say Baltimore the most physical 306 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: and Philadelphia maybe throwing the ball bunch, you know, maybe 307 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: not no, no, no, no, Andy Reid, that was a 308 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: physical they went. They had more live periods to the 309 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: ground than we did in Baltimore, like by a lot. Uh. 310 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: That that surprised me. That surprises me based on our 311 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: relationship when we were all together with the package for three, 312 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: three or four years. Um Mike Oin with that wasn't 313 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: what we did. We didn't We didn't beat people up. 314 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: If anything, DJ like I I hate to admit, like 315 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: some coaches who think this is crazy, we would go 316 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: nine on seven early. So for people that don't know, 317 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: notin on seven is your inside run period. You normally 318 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: have your office line tight ends, linebackers and safeties in 319 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: that front line and you go and run through it. 320 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: We would do not on seven early, take off the 321 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: pads midway through practice, and practice the rest of the 322 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: practice with just like our jerseys and stuff, all just 323 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: worrying about the pace and understanding the execution, but not 324 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: the physicality part of it. And that is an old 325 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Bill Wah trick. I wonder with Andy Reid's background being 326 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, if he felt like that approach left 327 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: his team's ill prepared to deal with physical teams, because 328 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I will say in Green Bay when we encounter like 329 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: the rough and rugged teams, it would take us a 330 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: little bit to adjust and ramp up physicality to be 331 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: able to match him. Yeah, he would do things because 332 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: you had two days you know then I don't really 333 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: have that anymore. Um, but in those morning full contact 334 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: practice he liked to move the ball, so he would 335 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: move the ball and go to the ground. So they're 336 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: literally they were you know, almost it was a lot 337 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: man or you just be moving the ball. And now 338 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: that's not always with the one. Sometimes that's for you 339 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: to get full live, full speed reps with your twos 340 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: and your threes. Um. But yeah, I mean I just 341 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: remember leaving there were going like wow, like what in 342 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: the world, Like I did not This is not what 343 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I thought I was getting into. I did not think 344 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: this is how they operated. Now I've operated on that 345 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: approach in Kansas City with Marty Schottenhammer. We were as 346 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: an old schooler to come three hour practices, lots of contact. Um, 347 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: we're banging, and we felt like that gave us an edge. 348 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: We felt like when we walked onto the field on 349 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Sundays against other teams, they were nearly ready for the 350 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: tempo and the physicality that we were going to play with. 351 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: And so it just kind of comes down to your 352 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: school of thought. There is a way to go live 353 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: to the ground, but to also have a quick whistle, 354 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: and so you're kind of manipulate that as the coach, 355 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: you want to be physical, you want to stress that 356 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: you also want to from a psychological standpoint, you want 357 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: to stand in front of the room and say, guys, 358 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: we're more physical than any other team in the National 359 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Football League the way that we practice. Others can't practice 360 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: like that. So you're also trying to build that confidence 361 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: and that mentality that when we do kick it off, 362 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: we're going to be more prepared. They're ready than other teams. 363 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: It's an interesting approach, you know. I think you're gonna 364 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: see teams attack this in different ways. Um, all right, 365 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: before we get to the guys opting out, we were 366 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: talking about this a little bit earlier before we came on. UM. 367 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: The unique idea that the Saints have on kind of 368 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: creating an individual team bubble. Go ahead, buck, Now, I 369 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: think that the New Orleans Saints are doing something that 370 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: is different than what we've heard from other teams. The 371 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: New or the Saints are basically trying to put together 372 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: a bubble. UH. They agree to have basically a hotel, 373 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: provide their players with rooms for their Tier one personnel, 374 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: So the players, the coaches, some of the medical personnel. 375 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: They want to make sure that those UH people are 376 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: housed in the hotel there in their own rooms. They're 377 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: away from everything, they're not exposed to the outside world 378 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: because they believe in chan Pagne has talked about it. 379 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: The team that can attack this virus and keep everybody 380 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: away from it and make sure that all of their 381 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: players are available when they get to kick off, that's 382 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: the team that is really going to have the advantage 383 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: by creating this bubble. I would say it's just like 384 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: training camp. But by creating this bubble and housing their 385 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: players away from everybody else, they may be able to 386 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: get to the starting line with everyone ready to play, 387 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: and that could be a huge advantage in this environment. Yeah, 388 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: I'd be curious if you looked at a breakdown of 389 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: a team and the Saints haven't seemed to be a 390 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: more veteran team. But just you know, we kind of 391 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: used if we kind of flippantly throw around, like it's 392 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: different with college. In the NFL, these guys go home 393 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: to their families, well not all of them. I mean, 394 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: be interesting to see like what percentage of the guys 395 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: have you know, a family there, or that they're just 396 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: single a single guy versus being a single guys. Yeah, 397 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: while I was living girlfriends, those those guys that are 398 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: a little more settled. Uh, it would be interesting to 399 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: see how that is. I think regardless of it, I 400 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: think we're seeing And I can't remember who the player 401 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: who talked about it from the Miami Dolphins, but he 402 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: talked about how guys have to hold their teammates accountable 403 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: and that this year, when people talk about family in 404 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: terms of the team concept, it really means more than 405 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: it had in the past, because you have to be 406 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: careful what you're bringing back to the family, going out, 407 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: being in bars, being around a bunch of different people 408 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: and potentially bringing things back to the family into the bubble. Yeah, 409 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: that's risky and that's reckless. And if you engage in 410 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: those behaviors, they're gonna cast you aside. And I know 411 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: they put in more punitive penalties for guys when it 412 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: comes to those things. But now more than ever, you 413 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: have to be very disciplined this year, and that discipline 414 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: has to show up not only on the field, but 415 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: in what you engage in off the field. It will 416 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: be a marathon to see how these guys are able 417 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: to kind of stay with it when it comes to 418 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: your discipline. Yeah, that was probably Dolphins. This is my idea. 419 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: I actually brought this up with with somebody the other day, 420 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about talking about ba Spaull. But to me, 421 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I would do it if I was, you know, if 422 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: I was the general manager of an NFL team, or 423 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: if I was a head coach of an NFL team. Um, 424 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: let me know what you think of this idea book, 425 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: because what I would do is every day, because this 426 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: is not something that you can have a lapse in judgment. 427 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: We've seen that in baseball. You can be on your 428 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: best behavior, you know, twenty three or twenty four hours 429 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: of the day. But I mean you're out for fifteen 430 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: minutes where you're not supposed to be in a crowd 431 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: of people, you're not social distancing, you're not taking you're 432 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: not wearing a mask. Then here we are. You're in 433 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: a casino, you're in a bar, and now we've got 434 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: major issues throughout the organization. I would every single day, 435 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: I would have another a different member of the team, 436 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: and it could be the coaching staff or the players. 437 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: Like say, for instance, you know you're the uh uh 438 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: you know I work with Do you just look these 439 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: a jacks Because I want to announced to that Bucky 440 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: just announced that he's doing some work with the jacks. 441 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: So I would on Monday Gardner minshew, why don't you 442 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: get up there and you can tell us about your grandfather, 443 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: tell us about your grandmother, tell us about you know, 444 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: if you've got a young daughter or whatever, tell tell 445 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: us a little bit about that person. And then if 446 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: you finished every single it could be a two minute 447 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: thing at the two at the end of the at 448 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: the end of the conversation, say guys, her health, my 449 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: my grandmother's health is in your hands. Let's be smart. 450 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Next day, boom, defensive lineman pops up there. My you 451 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: know my wife has diabetes d dada, here's da guys, 452 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: her health is in your hands. Like that daily reminder 453 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: of we are we are in charge of taking care 454 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: of a large group of people here. We have to 455 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: be smart. Yeah, we have to be smart. And I 456 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: like that idea. But I think another thing that would 457 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: come to play dj the teams that are able to 458 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: create this camaraderie within the team. UM years ago, when 459 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: I was in Kansas City, what we would do is 460 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: on Thursdays we would have UH film sessions after practice 461 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: and they would bring in food. They were bringing UH pieces. 462 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: They would bring in all kinds of sodas and stuff 463 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: like that. We're to keep everybody around. I think now 464 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: more than ever, those activities are really vital. In Green Bay. 465 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: We used to have so Food Friday, where they would 466 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: have a caterer bring stuff up on Friday to keep 467 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: you around the facility. Guys want to engage and they 468 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: want to have that camaraderie that you normally would share 469 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: outside of the building. Well, now what you have to 470 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: do is you have to get them to have that 471 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: in the building because in the building you can control 472 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: that environment safe. It's the safest place you're gonna be. 473 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: It's a safe bubble. So the teams that are able 474 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: to bring that in and it may cost more on 475 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: the budget line, right, it may cost more they were 476 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: catering and bringing these things in. But you have to 477 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: give those guys an opportunity to decompress. But you wanted 478 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: to do it within the sanctuary of your facility because 479 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: you know that they won't be exposed to the other stuff. 480 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: And look, hopefully this way it's set up right now works. 481 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: But I know a lot of people have thrown out 482 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: different ideas of how to do individual bubbles and what 483 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: teams can do. I did see one that I actually 484 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: kind of liked, which was worst case scenario right where 485 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: you have a little bit of the NFL is a 486 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: longer season. You can't people are not gonna be away 487 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: from their families for that entire season. That's that's that's 488 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: too much of an ask. But if you built in 489 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: league wide buys, you know, like every you know, four 490 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: or five weeks where you could have a buy where 491 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: you could get go be with your family and then 492 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: come back into your bubble, get tested, and then re 493 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: enter into your team's bubble. Then look, it's not ideal 494 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: and we want to be around your families every day, 495 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: but it's a sacrifice you may be willing to take 496 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: in the short term to try and get through a season. 497 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting idea. That is interesting idea. 498 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: How about to give you another idea, dj uh. We've 499 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: all seen teams because you've been with the Baltimore Raven 500 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: in the the Philadelphia because when they went on playoff runs. 501 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: As we get closer to the playoffs, there's a level 502 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: of seriousness that begins to happen with the team. I 503 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: believe having a bubble for your team down the stretch 504 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: will be critical because we understand what the loss of 505 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: a quarterback or key member could do. Just think about 506 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs when we hit the playoffs. Hey, guys, 507 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna bubble up. I 508 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: know it's a tough sacrifice, but for four weeks we're 509 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: gonna quarantine. You know, seel like we're gonna treat this 510 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: part of the season like training camp. Everyone lock up 511 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: in the hotel so we don't get exposed anything. So 512 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: can we assure that we have everybody? I think that 513 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: could be a distinct possibility for teams to have real 514 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: playoff chances and real title hopes and aspirations. Yeah, it's interesting, man, 515 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: It's again people are trying to figure this out on 516 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: the fly. I do think a lot of teams are 517 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: paying attention to what other teams are doing, trying to 518 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: steal good ideas, just as you might try and steal 519 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: a good play. Um. It's a copycat league in every 520 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: sense of the word. Um, all right, buck, we we've 521 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: I want to get to this opt out thing here. 522 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: Let's start. First of all, on the NFL side, we've 523 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: seen guys C. J. Mosey with the Jets, Eddie Goldman, 524 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: with the Bears, Um, Damian Williams with the Chiefs. Uh. 525 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: You look at all the players from the Patriots, with 526 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon, Patrick chungk Dante, Hi Tower, Vitality, They've had 527 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys. Um, So that's a that's a 528 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: pretty good chunk of names we've seen that have decided 529 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: to opt out. The interesting thing to me was the 530 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: report that came out today. I think it might him 531 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Pellicero that that that came out with it that said 532 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to take the pro rated 533 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: number off of this year's cap, not just the money. 534 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: So he gave an example. If I think it was 535 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: John James, You're making ten million and they had pro 536 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: rated three million on top of that to be spread 537 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: out over the length of the contract, you could say 538 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: thirteen million on this year's cap, which if you're like 539 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Jets, uh, you know, the Jets 540 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: are in a situation where Sam Donald is coming to 541 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: that you know point in time where you start thinking 542 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: about an extension. Marcus May's a safety they could extend. 543 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: This to me, makes it a lot more palatable to 544 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: say if you take C. J. Mosley's money off the 545 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: books this year. Fill that space, get one of these 546 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: extensions done, frontload that money, and then you're not in 547 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: any worse shape going forward with the count. This is 548 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: going to create some opportunities for some of these teams. Yeah, 549 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: I would have to know when they could sign Sam 550 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: Donald or if they have to wait to have that 551 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: one more year. They might have one more year because 552 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: because that would be that would be interesting because he 553 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: would have the biggest thing, and I think he would 554 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: actually be the easiest one to use to feel C J. 555 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: Mosley's you're talking about seventeen million dollars plus whatever the 556 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: bonus peroration is. You may be talking about twenty million dollars. 557 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: How about if you sign Sam Donald. I'm not saying 558 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: that you can based on the rules, but if you 559 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: could get him a let's get him his money now 560 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: so we can put it on this year's books as 561 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: opposed to having to wait, it could be advantaged a 562 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: huge advantage. But you're right, Marcus made some of the 563 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: other guys that you could identify on your team that 564 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: you want to give those extensions, it could happen. When 565 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: we talk about the New England Patriots, let's just kind 566 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: of fast forward to the end of the year. Let's 567 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: just say that Cam Newton wins the starting job and 568 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: plays at a high level DJ they could come to 569 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: him with an extension before the end of the season 570 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: and give him a bunch of cash early and then 571 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: have the cap in relatively good shape going into future 572 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: years because they gave him all his money right now. Well, 573 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: and see like the Jets thing when I talk about 574 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, well, I'm not necessarily saying you even have 575 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: to do Sam Donald. What you can do is you 576 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: can work some other contracts, you know, be at new 577 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: extension of Marcus Man. You can reduce some other deals 578 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: and you can push their money into this year, which 579 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: creates more money into next year for Sam. So it 580 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: just allows you to kind of move things around a 581 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: little bit and be a little more flexible. Yeah, like 582 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: the teams that are really good in terms of manipulating 583 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: the cap, it frees up a lot of space. I mean, 584 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: it frees up a lot of space for them if 585 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: they have some guys that had big, big cap numbers 586 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: that opted out, and it gives them an opportunity to 587 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: kind of reset. Because we were worried about how the 588 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: reduction and the sellary cap was going to impact these 589 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: teams next year and beyond. Well, now you have an 590 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to look at what their reduction could be and 591 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: begin to envision what is that team going to look 592 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: like next year When it comes to the core players, 593 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: how can we get those uh CAP numbers in line 594 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: to be able to handle a reduction while also giving 595 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: us enough space to sign some additional fire prower. I 596 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be critical that those guys are working together, 597 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: the CAP guys, the personnel guys, and then the coaches 598 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: to be able to understand and identify who are the 599 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: guys that are cential to what they want to get done. Um, 600 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: this is pretty funny. You'll like this. So I was 601 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: just typed in just to see if anybody had written 602 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: anything on this recently. I typed in Sam Donald, right, 603 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: and so I was gonna see what what was out 604 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: there on Sam Donald. You know what? You know? It 605 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: has like the people ask or whatever people also ask. 606 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: So it's like basically what the searches have been the 607 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: search history for Sam Donald. Here's this, here's the search 608 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: history for Sam Donald number one? What is Sam donald salary? 609 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: Number two? How long will Sam Donald be out? Number three, 610 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: What disease does Sam Donald have? Number four? Is Sam 611 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: Donald healthy? Not great? Not great? There, Buck, that's not 612 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: what you're looking at in your search history. No, it's 613 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: definitely not great. It's not exactly what you're looking for. 614 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: But he has an opportunity to play. I still say 615 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: the cards is stacked against him because I still feel 616 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: like they need more firepower on the outside for us 617 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: to really get a chance to see what he can be. 618 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: But um, one of the reasons why we liked him 619 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: when he was coming out is because we felt like 620 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: he had the ability to elevate those around him. This year, 621 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: we will get a chance to see. I think the 622 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: bigger thing is this is a great opportunity for everyone 623 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: to evaluate Adam Gaze. Adam Gaze has a reputation for 624 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: being a quarterback whisper in an offensive guru. Well, this year, 625 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: I want to see what is he able to do 626 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: to help Sam Donald? Working with him now, can he 627 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: elevate him? Can he get him to play at a 628 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: different level by scheming things up that allow him to 629 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: have enough layoups to begin to string together completions. That's 630 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: what I want to see from the coach. Yep that's 631 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: a big year for Adam gaze Um. Alright, college side, 632 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: we've seen these guys opt out. We've seen Rashad Bateman, 633 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: who is the latest one um and then Caleb Farley 634 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: was the first one there from Virginia Tech. Those are 635 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: two big ones. We've had kind of a little a 636 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: little dust up there in the pack twelve with with 637 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: what's going on there. So Cassidy Woods has decided to 638 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: opt out from Washington State. That was bizarre, by the way, 639 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: recording the conversation with his coach man WHOA, that was Yeah, whatever, 640 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing good about it. I'll just just leave 641 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: it there. But but bizarre, man. But uh. And then 642 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: we have ray Von Bonner from from Illinois. Don't I 643 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: haven't done him or looked at him yet. So but 644 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: I know we've got the two big guys and Buck. 645 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're with me on this, but 646 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg, man, I'm telling you, within the 647 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: next seven to ten days, I think we're going to 648 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: see a bunch more of these guys. And I'm not 649 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: talking about low level players. I think we're gonna see 650 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: some some high level dudes decide that that's not worth it. 651 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: For them to play this year. Yeah, I think I 652 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: think we will. I think if you, I don't know 653 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: if you saw the Facebook post from the mom of 654 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: the Indiana player and I read that, Yeah, who contracted 655 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: the disease because DJ I think I think we've kind 656 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: of assumed that a young people can handle this. Their 657 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: resilian football players won't be affected by it. I think 658 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: they kind of brought a dose of reality to the 659 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: situation very so good and and I think, uh, some 660 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: of these young athletes that have NFL futures that I 661 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: would say are pretty secured. I think they will weigh 662 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: the pros and cons of what do we have the 663 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: game you and I have talked about this. It won't 664 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: be the the guys that have the ability to do 665 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: this would be the ones that already kind of know 666 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: where they fall in the pecking order. The ones that 667 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: you worry about are the guys that have the potential 668 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: to develop. Like the last couple of number one picks 669 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: that we saw. We saw Joe Burrow developed tremendously his 670 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: final season. I mean, we saw Calla Murray uh developed 671 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: as a kind of like a one of the star 672 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 1: and we saw Baker Mayfield do it So for those guys, 673 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: the guys that are hanging out there, the guys who 674 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: may enter the year with UH third fourth round grades, 675 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: guys who developed and pop, those are the ones that 676 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: have to be covered because everyone is going to be 677 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: in their ear telling them that their grades are higher 678 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: than they currently are and are they willing to risk it? 679 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: UH this morning had a couple of text conversations with UH, 680 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: some VP of player personnel departments, some director player personnel 681 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: departments on how are you going to treat this when 682 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: guys opt out and we tell you, hey, this is 683 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: very similar to a guy suffering UH season and the 684 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: injury very early in his final season, we'll go back 685 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: and look at the previous season's tape. Will will grade 686 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: them based off of the film that we have, We'll 687 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: dig into the character, whatever the thing that we can't do. 688 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: We can't hold the decision against them, but we can 689 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: always wonder how much would they have developed if they 690 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: played their final year. UM, you wonder when they grade 691 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: on their curve, do you grade positively on the curve 692 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: or do you grade negatively on the curve because of 693 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: what you haven't been able to see their final year? Well, 694 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me, because if you're gonna say, if 695 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a draft right now of you know, 696 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: players under the age of right, you know, maybe it's 697 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: maybe it's five round that age. If we're gonna do 698 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: that league wide, and you took the quarterbacks out of 699 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: the mix, Buck nick Bosa might be the first or 700 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: second player picked. Nick Bosa shut it down his last 701 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 1: year at Ohio State. Shut it down, didn't affect him 702 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: at all, didn't affect where he was drafted, did not 703 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: affect how we played. And to me, that is the 704 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: story that's being pitched to these kids. First of all, 705 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: you be shocked if you knew how many players already 706 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: done with agents right now, like they're the deals are done, 707 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: like the top players. If you looked at the top 708 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I bet you there's probably I'm not even exaggerating. I 709 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: bet you there's seventy to ud players right now that 710 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: have already have agreements with agents like they had signed anything, 711 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: but they have a verbal agreement. They know who's going 712 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: to represent them, they've had all this time, they've met 713 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: with them, and there's nothing illegal about that is not 714 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, you haven't signed any papers. But I'm just 715 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: saying they are already getting advice from agents, they already 716 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: know where they're going, and guys like Nick Bosa, that 717 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: story is being relayed and people are sharing stories like 718 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 1: you mentioned with that Indiana guards mom talking about what 719 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: he had been through through this, and they're saying, look, 720 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, you know, maybe maybe you're the twenty fourth 721 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: pick in the draft right now. Maybe if you come 722 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: back and play, maybe you're a top five pick. But 723 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: maybe you know, again, the three bat outcomes. Maybe you 724 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: get COVID, maybe you get hurt, maybe you don't play well. 725 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: That's three negative outcomes, and they look at the one 726 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: positive outcome as you play better and you up your stock. 727 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to be Look, I love college football 728 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: as much as anybody. I hope all these guys stay 729 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: and play, and selfishly we get a chance to watch 730 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: him and we have a full college season. But I 731 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: gotta be honest, man, that that to me if if 732 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: that's my son, and and an agent has come to 733 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: me and presented that and said, look, we've talked to 734 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: teams around the league. Your son is going to be 735 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: a top two round pick if he does not play 736 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: this year. If he does play, maybe he's a top 737 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: ten pick. But I'm as a parent saying, man, I 738 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: don't know top two rounds and not taking any of 739 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: the risk sign up. Okay, so let's talk about the 740 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: big elephants in the college football room, the quarterbacks, Trevor Lawrence, 741 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Tree Lance. If they don't play another snap 742 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: of college football, how does that impact a draft status? 743 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it. To me, I don't think it, uh. 744 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: I think to me personally, I think Justin Fields has 745 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: has more growth potential. I think all three of them are, 746 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: and be honest, they're all three going to go in 747 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: the top ten. They don't play a snap, they're all 748 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: three gonna go on the top ten. So so now 749 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: so now, because we're both praying, let's put on our 750 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: parents head on, and our kids are sitting in that 751 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: situation and we know for with relative certainty they're gonna 752 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: be drafted in the top fifteen, I have the opportunity 753 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: to then hire one of the top quarterback gurus. Because 754 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about this offline, I can hire a top 755 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: guru to work with him for seven, eight, nine months. 756 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: We can go do a bunch of different things when 757 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: it comes to preparing and getting ready for the next level. 758 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: Is that more advantageous than taking the risk of putting 759 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: them out there COVID injuries fall off on play. Yeah, 760 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's something that that guys have 761 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: to consider. And that's me who loves college football and 762 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: loves the process, but also knowing this is unlike any 763 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: other year that we've seen, we don't know in college 764 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: football if it's gonna be to stop and start that, 765 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, based on everything, to have an opportunity to 766 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: really get together and really work on your game. And 767 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: you can't really work on your game without playing. But 768 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: I do believe there's some things that you could do 769 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: that you have to consider in this pandemic world. I 770 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: just think you have to. And I think it's not 771 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: those players they were about. We were about the French 772 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: players who may get bad advice they come out before 773 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: they're really ready. That that's the challenge. And like I said, 774 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: if you asked, if you asked to the top two 775 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: hundred players, put the top two hundred players in the 776 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: room and said how many of you guys are top 777 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: fifty players, all two hands would go up. That's the problem. 778 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: As you're gonna get guys outside of that world. They're 779 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna end up taking this advice and believe in the 780 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: hype and not coming. I'm not saying this is for everybody, 781 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: but I think we're talking about a select group of 782 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: people that it's it's a compelling argument, to say the least, 783 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get any pushback from NFL teams. 784 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: It's not like you, you know, if you're a starting quarterback. 785 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was. A year or two ago, 786 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: we had a starting quarterback that elected not to play 787 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: in a bowl game when he was healthy. And then gosh, 788 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: who was that? Yeah, and then he played in the 789 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: Site and we'll played in the Senior Bowl. Right, he 790 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: didn't play with his team, but then he played, and 791 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: he had He got a lot of grief. He got 792 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: a lot of grief for that. You're not getting any 793 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: grief for sitting out in a pandemic. Now, I think 794 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: we're beyond those things. I think NFL teams have also 795 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: kind of moved beyond it. The first people that began 796 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: to sit out, when Leonard for Ned and Christie McCaffrey 797 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: and those guys set out bowl games, we gave them 798 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: a hard time. But then other guys have done in 799 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: the NFL has just kind of be like, Okay, I 800 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: get it, Like that's your choice. We have more than 801 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: enough tape to be evaluated. I think this will be 802 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: a situation where we'll see guys elect to opt out 803 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: and they won't be just hard. Look. I have conversations 804 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: and text with guys are like, hey, you can't hold 805 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: it against him, like this is something that we haven't seen. 806 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: It's a health and safety concerned. We have to evaluate 807 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: them based on what they put on tape. We have 808 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: to call and do the background stuff or whatever. But 809 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: you only can judge them off of how they played. 810 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: The rest of it is of your projection. So the 811 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: guys who have good film in the can I can 812 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: understand it. Those who are on the bubble, you may 813 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: have to go out there and play and prove it 814 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: to to to get the draft ranking that you want 815 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You know what I 816 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: was thinking of. This is the analogy. This is like Hollywood, okay, 817 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: and so it's you don't call Tom Cruise and tell 818 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: me he could come in and read for you. You don't. 819 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: So some of those star players, you say, hey, here's 820 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: the deal. This is This is your job. If you 821 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: want it, you got we want you. We want you 822 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: in our movie. There's some other players. You know what, 823 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: you need to come in here and read a little bit. 824 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen quite enough yet from 825 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: your acting career to be able to give you this 826 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: role in my big budget movie. So you come in 827 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: and read a little bit. Okay. Some people might even 828 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: have to have a call back. You maybe need to 829 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: play like a full scene you I don't know. We 830 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: come in and I just want you to come and 831 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: read for like three or four games. Just read for 832 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: three or four games, and then I'm gonna look at 833 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: you and say, okay, you're into your out. So so 834 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: DJ that's the other thing. And we've talked about this 835 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: off the air, but there are gonna be some guys 836 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: who say, Okay, here's what I'll do. I'm not quite 837 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: at the point where I can opt out before the season. 838 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: But what if I get three or four games in 839 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: and what some lines? Man's just coming and read some lines. 840 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: That's all I get. What if I get three or 841 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: four games and then I'm like, you know, it might 842 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: be good. I think I got the role. And so 843 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: we may see some of those things happen, it is unprecedented. 844 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: And also with the player empowerment movement where more players 845 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: in college football are beginning to understand their power and 846 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: seizing upon that power, we may see, Man, it may 847 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: be different all the way. We may see some guys 848 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: opt out before. We may see some guys kind of 849 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: walk away from the team after, and that could be 850 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: problematic for NFL teams looking at like, man, that's I 851 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: get it, but you kind of quit on your team 852 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: depending on the circumstances. And then you see some guys 853 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: take it all the way through the end. But we 854 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: will see players do a bunch of different things and 855 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: make choices and decisions based on their health but also 856 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: based on where they think they kind of sit in 857 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: the pecking order of the NFL draft. YEA, one thing 858 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: I want to remind people that that are listening, like 859 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: you might be in a situation like we're in. We're 860 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: we're in comfortable life, right, We're We've been blessed, We're 861 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 1: doing fine. Some of these guys have come from a situation, Bucky, 862 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: where there are a lot of people relying on them 863 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: to be able to help their situation. So it's it's 864 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: I I just think there's a lot of people that 865 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: sit in their comfortable life and say, be loyal to 866 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 1: your team. They gave you this, you need to give 867 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: them that. Like hold up now, man, some no, this 868 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: is like this is the ticket for for some of 869 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: these people is what they can do professionally, and to 870 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: put that in jeopardy, Um, I don't know how you 871 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: can tell somebody to do that. I just to me, 872 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: that's up to them. Yeah, I don't think you can 873 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: have a judgment. And also I think it's tough to 874 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: really weigh in without knowing their family's circumstance. You don't 875 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: know who is in there, their household, you don't know 876 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: what they're uh what potentially they could be exposing their parents, 877 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: their kids, their extended family too. I think this is 878 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: one where you have to be very very careful before 879 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: you kind of lobb an opinion or a high take 880 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: on what a player decides to do. Because we just 881 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: don't know, and because there's still a lot to be 882 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: determined on the long term effects of the pandemic. I 883 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: think we just have to kind of wait and respect 884 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: everyone's wishes when it comes to the decisions that they make. Yeah, 885 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: to me, it's again, I don't I don't want to 886 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: hear it from people with uh, you know, giving me, 887 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: oh you need to do this, you need to do that. Nope, 888 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: all bets are off. There's no rules right now. It's 889 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: up to you individually to make the best decision for 890 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: yourself going forward. So again, we love college football. I 891 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: hope we get a chance to see college football. I 892 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: would love it if we had all the great players 893 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: out there on the field. But I get it, I 894 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: understand it, and uh, I think this is the tip 895 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: of the iceberg with these couple names. You know, I 896 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: think we're gonna see some more here in the next 897 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: week plus. Oh absolutely, I think we'll continue to see 898 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: some of these guys kind of about out because as 899 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 1: the as the college season is continued to be pushed 900 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: into mid to late September, I think more guys are 901 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: going way, and they're also gonna have more voices in 902 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: their ear that may convince them, you know what, it 903 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: may be best for me to sit on the side 904 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: and just train and prepare for the next love. All right. 905 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: I do want to announce this new podcast that's coming 906 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: out starting next week. It's called The Hard Knocks. Podcast 907 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: hosted by our buddy Peter Schreeger. Hard Knocks, the TV 908 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: show is gonna debut on third on Tuesday, I should 909 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: say August eleven, at ten pm Eastern HBO Hard Knocks 910 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: this year, covering the Rams and the Chargers. Is there 911 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: better music in the world. I don't know about you, 912 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: but I'm ready to run through a brick wall when 913 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: I hear those twones because it means one thing. Yes, 914 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: the NFL is back in action, and so is HBO's 915 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks in a season that's already unlike any other 916 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: the league. And how let's be honest, the world has 917 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: ever seen. 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Every week, I'm gonna provide you with 926 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: the recap show you want with an added layer of 927 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: behind the scenes access and information. Typically you go to 928 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: a water cooler at work and discuss what happened on 929 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: last night's episode loose flash, probably not happening in this August. 930 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: Subscribe to this podcast because I will be breaking down 931 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: the most intriguing storylines with people in the no decision 932 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: makers at both teams, and the actual producer is at 933 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: NFL Films and HBO who have boots on the ground 934 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. We'll be discussing the team's highly anticipated 935 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: moves to their brand new stadium, the Chargers quarterback battle 936 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: between to Rod Taylor and Justin Herbert, Sean mcveigh's plan 937 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: to get the Rams back on top, and of course 938 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: we'll talk about all the challenges that will be coming 939 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: from navigating a season amidst a global pandemic. So go 940 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: ahead right now and subscribe to the Hard Knocks Podcast 941 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: on Apple podcast wherever you get your podcast, and make 942 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: sure to watch our Knox on HBO to Screamed on 943 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: HBO Max on Tuesday nights beginning August eleven. It's the 944 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Podcast. We are here, que the water sprinkler 945 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 1: noise and let's go Yeah, Buck. That's gonna be fun. Man. 946 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: Our buddy Peter Schrager is gonna be all over that. 947 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be kind of like he's gonna be our 948 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen, I guess kind of recapping the uh the 949 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: show here. It's gonna be fun. Yeah, it should be 950 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It'll be um interesting to see. 951 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: Obviously you will have more access to the charges being 952 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: down there, being around their camp or whatever. Like. I'm 953 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: just curious to see how all this gets done. And 954 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: I think the behind the scenes footage of what guys 955 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: are experiencing, how different this training camp is for everybody, 956 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: will be fascinating. Uh. I can't wait, man. I'm excited 957 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: about the football season, even though we kind of have 958 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 1: this cloud of uncertainty hanging over top. I just think 959 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: this is going to be a year where the best coaches, 960 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: the coaches who are adaptable to coaches who have really 961 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: good plans in terms of getting their guys ready to play. 962 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna stand out for the rest of 963 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 1: their path. No now, um, well, let's uh let's wrap 964 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: things up here. This was fun man, Just again, I 965 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: love chatting with you man. This We always come into 966 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: these shows with our ideas of what we're to do, 967 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: and you never know where it's gonna go. But that's 968 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: the beauty about podcast. We go over therever the heck 969 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: we want to go. That's right, we can just we 970 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: can just take it. Um, it's funny. Next time we chat, 971 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: I do want to get the breakdown on those two players, 972 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: because those are some really good players. I studied Bateman 973 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: and Farley good players. Good Bateman's are really good player. 974 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: Did you think he had big time juice? I thought 975 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: he was not. I didn't either. I thought he played 976 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: like four or five and some people said, I guess 977 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna test better than that. But he's a good player. 978 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: He's a good player. I mean, it's funny, like I 979 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: know we're supposed to in the podcast, but let's just 980 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: talk about him and Farly like the thing that I 981 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: wrote in my notes, chain mover. Uh, he's a guy 982 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: that does a really good job of working and doing 983 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 1: the dirty, dirty work in between the hashes. But before 984 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: I even talk about that, some of the best hands 985 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: that I've seen his one hand catches, his ability to 986 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: come down his hand at coordination is exactly what you 987 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: dream of for a wide receiver. He catches any and 988 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: everything that is all around him. And I loved your 989 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 1: comparison because you compare him to Michael Thomas. I'm gonna 990 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: give you another one, a J. Brown, because when I 991 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: looked at him, I didn't see the blazer and it 992 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: reminded me of A J. Brown. Because when A J. 993 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: Brown was at Old Miss, I was like, I don't 994 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: know how fast he is, but then DJ baby and 995 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: average over twenty yards and reception. I mean, that is 996 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of yards per catch. And so I look 997 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: at A J. Brown this year in the league for 998 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: someone who I didn't think was a burner even though 999 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: he ran at four fort nine at the combine his 1000 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: ability to really create these explosive plays. I see Rashotte 1001 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: Bateman being able to do that as well. I love 1002 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: going back through the notes and uh and looking at 1003 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: some things as we're talking and listen to you. Um, 1004 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: he's such a sharp route runner. He never drifts, which 1005 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: again you see so much of that at the college level. 1006 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: Guys just aren't precise. It's it is what it is, 1007 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: is the way the game's played there. But he was crisp. 1008 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: He was very crisp. Doesn't drift he works in traffic. Um, 1009 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: he's got kind of that subtle quickness at the top 1010 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: of his route, and he's gonna have to dial in 1011 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of the physicality down the field. But 1012 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: I'd much rather be able to rein that in than 1013 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: to get some way to be a little tougher, a 1014 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: little more physical. And again you mentioned it Buck, just 1015 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: the hands, the hands are outstanding. Um. And then all 1016 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: so I wrote down which for receivers you don't really 1017 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: you say this a lot, but I have. I wrote, 1018 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: FBI FBI, FBI fbion Like he's got incredible football intelligence, 1019 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: broken plays, being able to feel leverage, like he just 1020 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: very instinctive For those who don't know, FBI stands for 1021 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: football instincts, Like he is dripping with with instincts. Yeah, 1022 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: he has. He has a lot of things that, um, 1023 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: you really like. And I like the fact that he 1024 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: played on the back side at X but he also 1025 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: went to slot some. I feel like he really showed 1026 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 1: you he'd do a variety of different things. If it's 1027 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: on the boundary, doing the vertical part of it, catching 1028 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: the ball over the middle of the field. I thought 1029 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: he was physical and courageous enough to catch the ball inside. 1030 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's not built to go inside and run the digs 1031 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: and the slants and the band gates. I thought his 1032 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: courage to the catch point stood out and I just 1033 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: like I wrote down, very good runner after catch, crafty, 1034 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: wiggle power. He can give you a variety of different 1035 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: ways to continue to get out of that that first tackle. 1036 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: And I think in this game, if you can get 1037 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: the wall to someone onto the perimeter and if they 1038 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: can make a defender or to miss, that's when the 1039 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: big place happened. And for Bateman, I saw that repeatedly 1040 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: show up on tape. Yep. But the only thing I 1041 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: wrote down is on some rare occasions, I thought he 1042 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: got stuck a little bit and pressed. But he's got 1043 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: the strength and the quickness to be able to improve 1044 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: in that area. That will just come with with more experience. Yeah, 1045 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: I thought, So what about Caleb far What do you 1046 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: think about him? So, Caleb Farley, I've done nineteen of 1047 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: my first look scouting reports that you can go to 1048 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: nfl dot com site. Daniel Jeremiah can read all these 1049 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: reports on these top college players. I've done nineteen. He 1050 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: is number twenty, So he is he is literally my 1051 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: last guy. So he's gonna come out later this week, 1052 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna watch him tonight or tomorrow. Okay, I 1053 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: don't want to influence you, but here's what I'll say, 1054 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: without really talking about his game. He is the prototypical 1055 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: corner that teams like Seattle, Jacksonville, San Diego, l A, 1056 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and and Jaguards looked for because he's big, 1057 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: he's physical, he can tak he has bowl skills. It'll 1058 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: be interesting when we had that conversation about him, because 1059 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: they're some things that I really really like. But then 1060 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: I also had a couple of questions, and I want 1061 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 1: to see if you have questions all those same aspects. Okay, 1062 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: well that's that's tb D. Let's uh, let's get that 1063 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: on the next podcast. I love this. We always are 1064 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: in the verge of wrapping these things up, and then 1065 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: we end up we have more stuff we want to 1066 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 1: talk about. It just tells us that football season is 1067 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: almost here, That's what it tells us. Yeah, for sure, man, 1068 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Like, uh, it's always a good 1069 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: conversation though. Yeah. See Mark is trying to start beef here. 1070 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 1: He just put on our little chat here Padres because 1071 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: the Padres came off of a win over the Dodgers. 1072 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: But Mark, I've I've explained this many times. I don't 1073 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: say anything. I don't say anything until the series is over. 1074 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: After the series, I might like something good happens, I 1075 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: might say something after us. I'm not saying anything in 1076 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,760 Speaker 1: the middle of a series. Have they have there already 1077 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: played today, like when we're taping this, I don't know 1078 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: if they played. We just the game to us right 1079 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,919 Speaker 1: in front of us. I don't know what happened last 1080 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: night or any of those other things. Like today, I 1081 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: think is everyone zero zero today? Right? Can we agree? Uh? 1082 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: MOOKI Mookie did not play in the game, so that 1083 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: was big for the for the Padres. But to me, 1084 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: the best We asked Dave Robert who would be the 1085 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,959 Speaker 1: best football player on the on the Dodgers, and he said, 1086 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts. To me, if you haven't seen a lot 1087 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 1: a lot of people watch the Potres, if you've seen 1088 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: the Padres play, Fernando Tattoos could play football. Man. That 1089 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: dude is an athlete. Man. He didn't hit a bomb. 1090 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: Hit a bomb, that's right, Yeah, he hit one off 1091 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: Bueller a curveball. He's right handed out about fifteen rows 1092 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: up on the right field line, like literally on the 1093 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: line opposite field, and Bueller's I saw his quotes after 1094 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: the game. He's like, I don't know. I mean, that's 1095 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: that's not normal. You know, you're not supposed to be able. 1096 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to take it to the opposite field 1097 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: with power like that, but he has it. What what's 1098 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: your predict? On the uniforms, I love them. I love them. 1099 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: And then the majority of people love him. The pin stripes, 1100 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: the white, the white and brown pin stripe, the home 1101 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: unit is is pretty sweet. But the people percent of 1102 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: the people love him. Guy Haberman from the Pac twelve 1103 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: network and our buddy up in the Bay Are, he 1104 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: hates him, but he's a Giants fan. It is what 1105 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: it is. So now that color scheme, remember because I 1106 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: remember as a kid, it was it was the brown. 1107 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: That's like. But then the pianis stripes, that's a new 1108 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: that's new. That's a new school. So we've got kind 1109 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: of the old school colors with kind of a new 1110 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 1: school look. Remember when when they had Gwinn and Garvey 1111 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: one time did they have they had penis stripes and 1112 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: Benito Santiago. That was that was like brown brown, Yeah, 1113 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: they had that was that was an exilier uniform. This 1114 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: this this crisp white with the brown pin stripes. That 1115 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: dig it, dig it, I dig it. I like it 1116 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not a bad uniform. Unifeel good. 1117 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: I feel good about my combination. You know, obviously the 1118 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: Charges are not in San Diego anymore, but you know, 1119 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: growing up, the teams, the local teams for me were 1120 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 1: the Padres and the Chargers and now called the Charger Games. 1121 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm still a huge Podre fan. I feel like my 1122 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: uniform combination with my two teams is it's pretty strong. 1123 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: Right now, it's pretty strong. I mean, I mean it's 1124 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: it's nice uniforms both both the Chargers new uniforms are unreal. 1125 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: They look so good. I can't wait to see that, 1126 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: uh that polo that you're gonna have to sport from 1127 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 1: the stage. They haven't sent him to me yet. I 1128 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: gotta text those guys. I need somebody to get my 1129 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 1: new gear, my workout gear. All right, let's uh, let's 1130 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: wrap this thing up. Man. I do want to thank 1131 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 1: you guys. We've had a bunch more. Get on Apple 1132 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: Podcasts and leave us a review in our in our ranking. 1133 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: We do appreciate you doing that. If you haven't, I 1134 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: would encourage you to do so that does. That helps 1135 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: us out tremendously. And I know we haven't done it 1136 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 1: in a while, but Nobile write this down for the 1137 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: next podcast. We need to have a h We need 1138 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: to answer some of the questions because we were compiling. 1139 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 1: They've compiled a lot of questions on there on Apple podcast. 1140 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: So we'll put that on the next podcast. So if 1141 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: you've lobbed a question out there, be sure to tune in. 1142 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: If you haven't, throw one on there, we'll see if 1143 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: we can get to it. That's gonna do it for 1144 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: us today. It was a lot of fun. We'll be 1145 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: back real soon with another episode and move the sticks. 1146 00:53:50,640 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: We'll catch you. Then got to work to Wutt