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Speaker 1: And then of course the Middlecoff mail Bag at John

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Speaker 1: why the draft is so fascinating? It's basically basically The

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Speaker 1: valid question to ask, like I get Pena Sul or

426
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Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase opting out they had nothing to gain. What

427
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: about the guys that had a lot to gain and

428
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: opted out? And when when I look up going the

429
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: third fourth round, Like should you have opted out? Was

430
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: that a good decision? Did you get terrible advice? Because

431
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: I didn't quite realize going into the draft the the

432
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: amount of players that opted out. Now, the Steelers did

433
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Speaker 1: not draft one, and they were adamant that they weren't

434
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna mess with it because I do think it's fair

435
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: to say to go And whether this is right or wrong,

436
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. Every individual player is his

437
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: own case study. But you know, a guy's get drafted

438
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, that's an opt out, Like did

439
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: he even want to play football? Because like Jalen Waddle,

440
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Davante Smith, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, all these guys played

441
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: in campaign to come back. Now, one area I will

442
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: defend the guys is in the Big Ten, in the

443
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: Pack twelve that it didn't look like their season was

444
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Their institutions, led by the academic elites of America,

445
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: wanted to cancel football, and the Big Ten did, and

446
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve followed them. And then they got a

447
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: ton of ship and we saw the sec A CEC

448
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve started playing like normal. It's like,

449
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: what are you guys? Doing what why are you not playing?

450
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: And then they eventually capitulated and started playing. And to

451
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: a lot of the players in the Big Ten in

452
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, they were kind of getting torn, you know,

453
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: toyed around, but like a yo yo, Right, anyone, any

454
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: small business owner in a city that was heavy on

455
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: lockdowns can relate. You. Guys were treated like yo yo's

456
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: during the coronavirus pandemic in two thousand and twenty. With

457
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 1: the lockdowns. There was no rhyme or reason to anything.

458
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: At any moment, it's off, oh you're open again. It's

459
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: not the way you treat people. And the Big ten

460
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve did that two players. So there

461
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: is definitely an angle of a guy that like the

462
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Niners drafted a third round corner from Michigan, and I

463
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: was like, well, why didn't this guy play? But then

464
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Speaker 1: I understand, like Michigan one of the crazy lockdown states

465
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Speaker 1: in America. Also with the Big Tent, it was very

466
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Speaker 1: very difficult, Like I do understand, but I also get

467
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: the Steelers going, you know, we're not even gonna mess

468
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: with it now. I don't think you ever want to

469
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: pigeonholes the wrong word. But back yourself into the corner

470
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Speaker 1: with the philosophy, just because there are probably gonna be

471
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Speaker 1: a lot of good players, non the top guys who

472
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: opted out last year in the Big Ten and the

473
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Speaker 1: Pac twelve who strictly did it because they weren't able

474
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Speaker 1: to train and they didn't know if they were gonna play,

475
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: and then you know, come mid October, like you guys

476
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: are playing. It was a ship show, an absolute circus

477
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: that there is no way around it. The Pack twelve

478
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten, we're we're embarrassing during the fall

479
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: and the a C see an SEC kind of clowned him,

480
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the players who I'm

481
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: sure friends with a lot of guys in those conferences

482
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: like I don't know what we're doing, And a lot

483
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: of those schools were closed down on hardcore. He couldn't

484
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: work out, They don't facilitate any place to work out,

485
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: and the guys tapped out. So I understand Tomlin and

486
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert taking that stance, but I also think you

487
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: gotta be careful because certain individuals like have a good

488
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: case and they might push back. Well, he had the

489
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: opportunity to finally come back with his teammates and he didn't,

490
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: And they're not talking about Jamaar Chas and Piney Sewell,

491
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: which I just assumed they were the whole time. Really,

492
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: to me, what they're talking about is to do in

493
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: the fourth round, Like why wouldn't you want to play

494
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: and help your stock and go up? Because that is

495
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: the one thing with the opt out guys. Anyone that

496
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: did not play in two thousand twenty, yeah, two thousand,

497
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: follow two twenty, who wasn't an elite player, he could

498
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: have helped his stock and gone from a third or

499
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: fourth round or to a second or first. He also

500
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: could have heard his stock because part of having more

501
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: information and a larger sample size is we get a

502
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: better review of who you are now. I think a

503
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of the kids would say, I wasn't able to train.

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: I didn't feel I was gonna play very well. I didn't.

505
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't comfortable doing it because the elephant in the

506
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: room was these kids weren't scared of Corona, right, It

507
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: was just they weren't able to work out. They weren't hell,

508
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: all the schools in the PAC twelve out by me

509
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: weren't able to practice. The cow canceled the game when

510
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: one player got Corona because of these crazy laws in Berkeley.

511
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: They literally had to cancel because one guy in one

512
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: position group got Corona, they had to cancel the game.

513
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: So it's like, I go both ways. I like the

514
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: Steelers being strong in their conviction with it, and I

515
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: understand elements to where they're coming from. At the same time,

516
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: like outside of Pittsburgh, I I lived in, you know,

517
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: a radical place, who I kind of would have if

518
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: I was one of these players, I would have been like,

519
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: what's going on here? And they really never got an

520
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: answer till last minute. I mean, how Cow played U

521
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: c l A one week they were that one. The

522
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: following week after the game was canceled, they had an

523
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: opponent that had to cancel a game on Friday, They're like,

524
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna play U c l A. They played Sunday

525
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: morning at nine am at the Rose Bowl. So it's like,

526
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: I don't even I think you have to put yourself

527
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: in some of the shoes of some of these teams

528
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: and go, this is pretty nuts. Like it was the

529
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: school's fault, it was the institution, in their leadership's fault.

530
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: It was a clown show. And I think a lot

531
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: of these players, I give them credit for like this

532
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: is stupid. Now, some of these players couldn't probably lost

533
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: themselves a lot of money. The guys that are gonna

534
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: end up being good pros, they would have been good

535
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: if they would have came and played. But you know,

536
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: the the situation was very, very complicated. Another thing I

537
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: saw John Elway, he uh took a back seat this draft.

538
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: I think we got to be very careful about just

539
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: because you're a GM, like a title, and anyone in

540
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: any different job knows this, just because you have a

541
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: title doesn't mean a damn thing. A wise man once

542
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: told me a long time ago, said, one thing he

543
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: learned early on in his career. And he works in

544
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: the financial institute like he's you know, uh, I guess

545
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: a venture capitalist. Now he hedge funds like he's in

546
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: that kind of world finance world. And he said, early

547
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: on his career he was so big on being called

548
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: like a vice president and asking for all these titles.

549
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: And he's like, you know what, one thing I learned,

550
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: you could call me an intern if you're paying me

551
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: a premium. People get so caught up in hollow things,

552
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: and being a GM in the NFL is a really

553
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: big deal. But not all general managers are created equal,

554
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we see what's going on with

555
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Gudikins and Aaron Rodgers. The one thing we've learned, the

556
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: general manager in Green Bay has a lot of juice.

557
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: So when Aaron Rodgers says he wants the GM fired

558
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: because he knows it was the GM's call to draft

559
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the GM is in charge of the Packers.

560
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: It's an elite general manager job. It just is. But

561
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: if you're the GM for the Seattle Seahawks and John Schneider,

562
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: ultimately Pete Carroll is the boss. It is not the

563
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: same as being the general manager in Green Bay as

564
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: being the general manager in Seattle, and for most of

565
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: these teams, depending on who you are, like historically, for

566
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, like being his GM is not that great

567
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: of a job because ultimately he's the boss. Well, one

568
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: thing says he's got in Kansas City. He lets the

569
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: g M B the GM, John Dorsey, Brett Veach. They

570
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: get to run free agency, they get to run the draft.

571
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: So every team is so different. Right San Francisco, like

572
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: John John Lynch has a very very difficult job handling

573
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan running the scouting department. But Kyle Shanahan is

574
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: the ultimate decision maker. If he truly wants something, he's

575
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna get it. And John's gonna get vetoed. Now. John's

576
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: paid a ton of money, but his GM job the

577
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, that is an elite general manager job, as

578
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: we saw with Lway for the last you know whatever

579
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: decade and now with George Peyton, like they get to

580
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: be in charge. Part of being a GM, like you

581
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: aspire to run the program. Now it's a hard balance

582
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: because ultimately you want an elite coach and you usually

583
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: elite coach is gonna want some juice. But in a

584
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: perfect world, you kind of want a coach who's gonna

585
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: be open minded your ideas and you can work with.

586
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: And that's what I bet if John Schneider walked in

587
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: the door right now, he'd be like, you know, Pete's

588
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: given me a lot of juice over the years, right.

589
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis would say the same thing with Sean Payton,

590
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: Brett and Andy just have a you know, kind of

591
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: a unique relationship. And that's what I'll be fascinated. Like

592
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: George Patton Peyton when he took the GM, job in Denver,

593
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: like he gets to make all the calls. If VIC

594
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: fan Joe doesn't win this year, he's gonna get fired.

595
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: And I'll be fascinating to watch in it with the Lions,

596
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: with Atlanta some of these new programs like how's it

597
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: truly gonna work? Does the GM actually get to pick

598
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: the players? Or do you have to do what the

599
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: coach lot wants? Now, Ultimately, you want to be on

600
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: the same page as the coach. You don't want to

601
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: draft a player that he doesn't want. That doesn't make

602
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: any sense, right that that's a that's a terrible business philosophy.

603
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: You guys want to be on the same page. But

604
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: we're humans. We we all are not gonna think alike.

605
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna have We're gonna butt heads, and ultimately who's

606
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: in charge, who's making the decisions, is gonna win out

607
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: and that is usually what leads to a lot of

608
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: fights and anger historically in NFL buildings. I wanted to

609
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: dive into some draft nuggets and just different things from

610
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: this weekend that excited me that I had opinions on that,

611
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: just that I just wanted to mention here on the

612
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: pot and first and foremost one of the more polarizing picks.

613
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: I think ultimately I saw Breer and Peter King, and

614
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: most people in the NFL world thought the Alex Leatherwood,

615
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: the raiders sevent overall selection tackle from Alabama, was the

616
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: most head scratching pick in the draft. And I say

617
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: it all the time. The draft is twofold one. It's

618
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: a marketplace. What do you have to pay for a

619
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: given player? Right? You don't want to use the tenth

620
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: pick on a player if you can get him at fifteen,

621
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: can you move back? You don't want to if you're

622
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: sitting there at eighteen and you gotta get the four

623
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: team to get the desired player you want, what's gonna

624
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: cost you something? It's a marketplace. Every player has a value,

625
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: and you have to understand the value league wide. And

626
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: one thing I saw today by several, uh you know,

627
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: different people on the internet. I saw Jim Naggy, director

628
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl, and I think Benjamin Albright said

629
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: that Alex leather when everyone's making too big of a

630
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: deal of this, because most people I talked to you

631
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: thought he was like somewhere between like forty and sixty.

632
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: And Jim Nagy wrote he would have got in the

633
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: first round, and Benjamin Albright said he would not have

634
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: made it past Baltimore. Now, listen, I'm all four having

635
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: a player you want, isolating that guy, and being dead

636
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: set on getting them. But back to the first part

637
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: of the equation, you have to know what you have

638
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: to pay. And here's the thing with the Raiders, with

639
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Speaker 1: John Gruden and Mike Mayock, they have had now three

640
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Speaker 1: years in a row, they've taken a guy that the

641
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: entire league would not have taken at that spot. Now,

642
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Speaker 1: I understand that maybe the teams I talked to like

643
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: him worse than the Baltimore Ravens or whatever, but it's

644
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: seventeen that from Cleveland Farrell last year to Damon our

645
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Nette and this year to Alex Leatherwood in the first round.

646
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: When they get into a big spot, they never have

647
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: the ability to move back. Just look at the Cowboys.

648
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: They would have taken Michael Parsons at number ten overall.

649
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: Now they got the Eagles to come up to ten

650
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: and they moved back to spots. They got an extra

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Speaker 1: third round pick, and they took the guy they just

652
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: would have taken. Yet, with Cleveland Farrell, with Damon Arnett,

653
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: and now with Leatherwood, Like, I got no problem taking

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00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: these guys in the first round. I get it, But

655
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: why do you never know the value and are never

656
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: able to finagle three or four spots back at a fourth,

657
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: at a third, hell, move five or six spots back

658
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: at a two? Do business? Do NFL high level shit?

659
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: They never are able to do it. Now, I think

660
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Mayok would say it takes two to tango. True, it does,

661
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: but why are you never able to find a trading

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: partner ever in the first round on the big boy pick,

663
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: when a lot's on the line and that pick is

664
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Speaker 1: worth a lot of capital, you're never able to move ever,

665
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: Not with Farrell, who I don't think Cleveland Farrell would

666
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: have got in the top fifteen. Damon Arnette, You'd be

667
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: hard pressed to convince me you couldn't have got him

668
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: at like thirty in Leatherwood. So even if he wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the Ravens at eight, whenever you can't

670
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: go from seventeen, find a way to get back to

671
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: twenty three. They never are able to throw a curve ball.

672
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: Anyone can move up. Moving up is not that complicated.

673
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: If I'm at twenty and I want to get to eleven.

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00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: The Bears when they got justin fields, you call the

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00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: guy in the leven, you go listen, We'll give you

676
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: next year's one boom. We gotta deal. That's simple. Anyone

677
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: can move up. Moving up is easy. Moving back is hard.

678
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: You know why because going into the draft you have

679
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: to understand who's where, what value is where, understanding what

680
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: picks are worth. You have to line these things up

681
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: before the draft, and the Raiders are never able to

682
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: do that under this administration. I think highly and Mike Mayock.

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00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: Everything I ever watched him do on television, he was

684
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: always impressive. He was always much more of a NFL

685
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: guy than he ever felt like a media guy. Deep

686
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: down at my core, I'm really more in the media,

687
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: into the business. Like I like that ship more than

688
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: the NFL stuff, more than the scouting stuff. Max the opposite.

689
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: He's just a junkie. He belongs in the NFL. But

690
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: he has a weakness Gruden as well, and Gruden's the boss.

691
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: Ultimately Mack answers to him, but like, this is what

692
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: a GM has to at least have set up, and

693
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: he's never able to do it. Not once in these

694
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: big spots. Maybe he doesn't later in the draft. Who

695
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: cares what happens with Ferrell our Net and now Leatherwood.

696
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: That you can't just get the guy that you want

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00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: it all along. I got no problem with you taking Leatherwood,

698
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: but take him at twenty two, take him at twenty

699
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: four and add an extra third round pick. That that's

700
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: what this drafts about, value, acquiring assets out thinking the room.

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00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: It's a business exercise. It's not just we gotta get

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00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: this player. This guy can play right tackle for us. Okay,

703
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: I get it, But can you also get that guy

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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: that you want to play a right tackle for you

705
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: and acquire a third round pick? Because that's what the

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00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: smart guys do. And the Raiders it feels like they're

707
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: operating on a different wavelength and all the good teams,

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00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: uh Brady. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers took Kyle Trash in

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00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: the second round. I saw Bruce Arian said, you know,

710
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: you end up watching Kyle Pitts. You end up watching

711
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: the wide receiver Tony, and you're like, God, all these

712
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: balls are perfectly plays. They ended up draft to him.

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00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: Don't blame him at all. If you have a star,

714
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: high level quarterback. Belichick did it once with Jimmy Garoppolo.

715
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Now ultimately Jimmy outlasted him to meet. The Buccaneers were

716
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: crazy to not take a quarterback in this draft. Get

717
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: him around Tom for a year, for two years, however

718
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: long he's there. But like, I like the mindset, and

719
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: you need a backup quarterback. Like, if Tom Brady does

720
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: go down, you are not winning anything with Blaine Gabbert.

721
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: You will lose unless he has to just play one game,

722
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: but if he has to start five, six, seven, eight games,

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00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: you will lose. So maybe Kyle Trash, you know, he

724
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: can just be a marginal starter, good backup if Brady

725
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: were to roll an ankle and miss a couple of games,

726
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: which you'd say that never happens, but if it does,

727
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: he's forty forty four years old. Could you win some

728
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: games with this guy and can he take some information

729
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: and uh through you know, just being around Tom every day,

730
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: watching the way the guy practices, watching the way the

731
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: guy works. You don't think that benefited Jimmy Garoppolo when

732
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: he got traded to San Francisco, he kind of knew

733
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: the secret sauce. Now, ultimately you have to end up

734
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: going out. You have to play. You have to make

735
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: the throws, you have to call the you know the

736
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: plays from the headset from the coach, right, you need

737
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: to execute the offense. But it can't be anything but

738
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: a positive being around Tom every day in practice, being

739
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: around him every day in the meeting room, taking notes

740
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: by how he lives his life. So I I love

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00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: that pick. And I'm not even that big of a

742
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Trash guy. I think there's tangible pressure now on

743
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: the a f C, the two young a f C

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00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: North quarterbacks from the same draft. Obviously, Lamar is much

745
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: more accomplished than Baker Mayfield, right, I mean he's won

746
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: an m v P, basically been in the playoffs all

747
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: three years now. The Ravens organization historically is I mean

748
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: on their worst day besides last year that was the

749
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: Brown's best day. Right, so before this last year, Baker's

750
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: first two years, Hugh Jackson, Greg Williams, Freddie Kitchens. You know, Freddie,

751
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm making a sandwich in the kitchen. It was embarrassing.

752
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: But both those guys, but start with Lamar, Like they

753
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: added a wide receiver in the first round. They added

754
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: t Martin and Keith Williams are their receiver coaches now,

755
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: so Hollywood Brown should get better. They signed Sammy Watkins,

756
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: who's played for the Chiefs for the last three years,

757
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: who's beloved in that organization. You know, it's time to

758
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: kind of take a step as a as a passing

759
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: quarterback because as we've seen with all these running quarterbacks historically,

760
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: you can't just run around forever. Eventually you gotta make throws.

761
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: Even the mobile quarterbacks like Russell Wilson and DeShawn Watson

762
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: are running around behind the line of scribbage throwing the football.

763
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: It's a big year for Lamar. And I'm a Lamar fan.

764
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: Earlier when I had my a c up a little

765
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: too high, I had nobody cares work harder. He's got

766
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: the right mindset. He he doesn't play the victim bs

767
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: that the media would eat up. You know, it's not

768
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: my fault. It's the coaching staffs, the offense. No, he

769
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: always wears it, but now it is time for him

770
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: just to take another step as a quarterback, as a

771
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: passing quarterback. And I think it's it can be a

772
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: hard balance. When you run, you know, run heavy offense,

773
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to get into a rhythm as a quarterback.

774
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: It's easy for josh Allen Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Brady to

775
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: get into a rhythm as a pastor. They throw the ball.

776
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: They never there's not a balance. They're not like, well

777
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna take off and run. We're not gonna run

778
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: quarterback power here. So I I think it's just Mark

779
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Andrews is stud like they got weapons. They got weapons.

780
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: Bit big year for uh for Lamar Jackson, same with Baker.

781
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: Their team is loaded. Absolutely, they have a They're they're

782
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna play a third place schedule. They won eleven games.

783
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: They've gotten better this offseason. The Browns roster on paper

784
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: probably top five in the league. And if Baker plays

785
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: like he did last year down the stretch, they'll be

786
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: in good shape. He had moments early on Now new offense,

787
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: it's very quarterback friendly. They got two sweet running backs.

788
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham comes back the Browns. Their defense is gonna

789
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: be awesome. They just drafted a sweet corner in the

790
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: first round. Award is good. They signed a safety in

791
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: free agency. They already have You see Myles Garrett in

792
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: the draft. What was that the second or third round

793
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: when he came out in his suit. I mean the suit.

794
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: Look Remember when Chris Farley is fact guy in a

795
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: little coat that looked like Jack guy in a little coat.

796
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: Remember Arnold Schwarzenegger like in the eighties. That's how Myles

797
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Garrett looks right now. The difference between Arnold Schwarzenegger. He's

798
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: not stiff in the hips. He can bend the edge.

799
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett looks like a different species of human than

800
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: like myself. Is this guy getting bigger by the year.

801
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Guy looks like a fucking monster. I mean he might

802
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: for the next three or four years be the best

803
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: pass rusher, you know, beside Aardonald in the league. So

804
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: you got weapons everyone in offense, you got a sweet

805
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: defensive backfield, you got the best pass rusher in the league.

806
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Potentially be a good young coach. This kind of big

807
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: year for Baker mayfield Man and Lamar Jackson. Now, both

808
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: these teams probably be in the playoffs. But we know

809
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: the Ravens will We'll see. You know, the Browns one

810
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: playoff berth in a long period of time. Can they

811
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: sustain it. They should be able to. You could argue

812
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: they should win the division. Wait till we see some

813
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: of the odds come out, Uh, like, can I get

814
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: the Browns like five six to one to win that division?

815
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, what, they haven't won it probably since the nineties.

816
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: I kind of like that, and I don't. But you know,

817
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: I was texting with Naggie on Friday, maybe it was Saturday.

818
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: He said it to Peter King and Albert Brier like

819
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: he loved Justin Fields. They did a lot of work

820
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: on Justin Fields. I didn't realize they were kind of

821
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: circling the Justin Field situation that if he fell, they

822
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve, they were going to be aggressive, like

823
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: they had a plan of attack. And I've talked a

824
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: lot of mess about Ryan Pace. I think he's an

825
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: average to below general manager. I mean he whiffed on

826
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback in a draft with Mahomes and Watson, Like

827
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: that alone is a fireball offense. You took Mitch Robisky

828
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: over Patrick Mahomes and Deschanel Watson. It's hard to take

829
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: anything you do after that seriously. But I'm not gonna go,

830
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: h Harry and Lloyd here totally redeem yourself off. But

831
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: you know we're deeing himself a little bit. I mean

832
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, who if if you had told me the

833
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: Niners took it three, I would have plotted. I wouldn't

834
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: have thought it was crazy if the Jets took it

835
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: to I think Justin Fields is an elite prospect. Elite

836
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: He's a better prospect coming out of college then Deshaun Watson.

837
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm not even comparing to the Homes because it's not

838
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: even apples to apples. Mahomes wasn't We weren't even talking

839
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: about it, but Deshan who had won a national championship,

840
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: who was viewed as a legitimate NFL player, Like I

841
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: think Justin Fields a better prospect physically. Now, obviously there's

842
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: more to quarterback than just your physical attributes. But I

843
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: give the Bears. They got lucky in a sense that

844
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: he fell right. The Panthers and the Broncos passed on

845
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: him and they pounced. What would have been fascinating if

846
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Mac Jones were sitting there at fifteen,

847
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: who Belichick would have taken. I'd assume Mac Jones, but

848
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Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, they signed Cam Newton last year

849
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: and none of us saw that coming. Some of the

850
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Jets coaches our rewrote this in their meetings leading up

851
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: to the draft. Joe Douglas put a lot on the

852
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: coaching staff to evaluate all the quarterbacks right in like

853
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: February and March. They did a big evaluation before they

854
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: made any decision on Sam Donald. Some of the coaching

855
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: staff for the Jets like Zack Wilson more than Trevor Lawrence,

856
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: which I've heard some people that do too, Like I

857
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: don't think it's that crazy, but I said it last week.

858
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: A Jets fan d m me's like, you're just a

859
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Jets hater. I'm not. They're just they're the worst team

860
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: in the division. That's not being a hater. That's a

861
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas will tell you that over Beers. That doesn't

862
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: mean in a couple of years they can't be really good.

863
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: I love Robert Sala. Lafleur has a chance to be

864
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: a really good offensive coordinator. Look what everyone running that

865
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: offense do. But they don't have much talent on the roster.

866
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: They have two good offensive linemen. Now they have a safety.

867
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: Some of these draft mix but we don't know you know,

868
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: the guard they I mean the quarterback who knows it's

869
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a big transition. But a lot of pressure

870
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: is on this guy their coaching staff that he was

871
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: better than Trevor Lawrence. Like that's pretty bold take. Like

872
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: this guy better be pretty solid. And like I said

873
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: last week, I think it's gonna be difficult. You know,

874
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: it just it just is. I mean that the division

875
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: they play in is tough. I mean it's got Belichick,

876
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: greatest coach of all time, Brian Flores who learned twenty

877
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: years from Belichick, who has a solid team, and Sean McDermot,

878
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: who has an elite team. I mean the second best

879
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: team in the a f C. You gotta play those

880
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: six times. You have a first time coordinator on offense

881
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: and defense, the first time head coach, and a rookie quarterback.

882
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of moving parts of newness, right. I mean,

883
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: put yourself in the situation. Anytime you're doing something new,

884
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: even if you're good at it, it's difficult. Like you

885
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: don't just whatever you do for a living. If you

886
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: just take a step up at whatever that is, it

887
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: can be a challenge the first week, the first month,

888
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: the first year you get a new job. You usually

889
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: don't just hit the ground running and just take off

890
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: like Usain Bolt, like, oh ship, this is easy, Like

891
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: you're they're gonna be growing pains anytime you gain new

892
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: responsibility in your position, right. I guess Zack Wilson is

893
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. It's just not a much higher level.

894
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: Robert sal has never been a head coach the floor,

895
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: has never been a coordinator. Joe Douglas now actually has

896
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: like pressure on him for the first time, right making

897
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: this move with the quarterback. So I'm just Douglas. I

898
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: guess he told him on the phone. All you have

899
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: to be to Zack Wilson is yourself us and the

900
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: organization will lift you with us. Like he's trying to

901
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: take the pressure off the quarterback, but we just know

902
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: like the pressure always turns the quarterback, just the way

903
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: the business works. Okay, let's dive into the Middlecoff mail

904
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: back at John Middlecoff the Instagram. You guys, uh, please

905
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: slide right in to the direct messages. I have a

906
00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: lot start with Wes. If declaring for the draft is

907
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: a requirement to enter the league, couldn't a Zack Wilson

908
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: or Trevor Lawrence go play in the CFL for a

909
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: year then enter the NFL as an unrestricted free agent.

910
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: Can't help but feel like Zack Wilson's career is gonna

911
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: be over before it even starts when he goes to

912
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: the Jets. Well, so, let's what's stopping a top prospect

913
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence from not declaring for the draft and

914
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: entering the league as a collegiate free agent. I know

915
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: it would probably be worse for the league. Well, here's

916
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: the thing. Like Trevor Lawrence, the moment he gets drafted,

917
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: he's property of the Jacksonville Jacks, right, or Zack Wilson

918
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: with the Jets, So they could not show up and

919
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: go play in CFL. Right, they would still be under

920
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: the the umbrella of their team. And where where it

921
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't make sense is the NFL pays more. Do you

922
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: know how much? Do you know how much the number

923
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: one overall picks gonna make this year? I think like

924
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: thirty nine million dollars guaranteed four years, thirty eight million

925
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: dollars and if you're good, you get the fifth year option,

926
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: and if you're really good, you get your contract extension.

927
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: Are our neighbors to the north, they ain't paying that

928
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: type cash. Hell, you're not even allowed to leave your

929
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: house right now. In Canada, you get arrested, So I'd

930
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: say these guys, uh yeah. Plus, here's here's the thing. Now,

931
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: if Trevor Lawrence came out of college and was a

932
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: true for free agent, how much money would he get?

933
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: Someone probably give him a hunter million dollars, but it'd

934
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: be pretty risky, right I. I do think it's the

935
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: way the NFL works. The draft is good for players.

936
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: You get drafted high, you get a lot of cash.

937
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Right they build up the league. They keep the cash

938
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: flowing for everybody, not just you. It's a team sport

939
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: and you need to pay a lot of people. The

940
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: draft is a healthy mechanism the way it's set up

941
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: right now in the NFL to just keep just you know,

942
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: the league flowing. Listen to the podcast this weekend and

943
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: you talk ad about being immature with your mind in

944
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: your twenties. I thought that was really interesting and relatable

945
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: to myself. Right now, What did you do or how

946
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: did you change that? Well? I think as you get older,

947
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: you just become less emotional. Will probably the wrong word,

948
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: I'd say less reactionary. Most of my immaturity in my

949
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: twenties would just be a freak out right and get

950
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: angry at stuff, A lot of stuff you can't control.

951
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: You just don't have control of your emotions. Right. You

952
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: see young players in sports right in high school freaking out,

953
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: and you can see guys in the pros like now,

954
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: guys freak out too, but guys be able to handle

955
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: their emotion. I think as you live, as you meet

956
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: new people, as you do new things, you gain new perspective.

957
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: It sounds kind of cheesy, but I just I think

958
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: it's with age, you know, I mean now some people

959
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: are more mature in their twenties. I think the best

960
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: thing that's happened to me is perspective in life. You know,

961
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: I've I've been fired and been in the gutter and

962
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: have been doing well. I've seen both sides of it.

963
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: You know, you're just you either gonna wake up happy

964
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: or not, whether you've got a million dollars in the

965
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: bank or whether you've got zero dollars in the bank.

966
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: You have a good attitude and don't freak out over everything,

967
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: it's easier to accomplish stuff. The other thing that I

968
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: try to do a really uh I was gonna say

969
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: really good job of I'd be lying if I said

970
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: I did it. I am cognizant of and I attempt

971
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: to not do is to assume things. And I think

972
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: you get a lot of get in trouble in your

973
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: mind when you assume thinks. I think the faster you learn,

974
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: and you to me you only learn through doing things.

975
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: The less you assume, the healthier mind is. And I

976
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: think when you're young, and it happens to people that

977
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: aren't young too, they spend so much time assuming. And

978
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: I think when we assume, we naturally think of the

979
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: worst things, something negative, and that's gonna lead to, uh,

980
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, becoming un you know, emotionally a little unhinged.

981
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I do to me, the main part of maturity is

982
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: just control of your emotions, right. And the more you

983
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: can control your emotions, you know, someone looks at you funny.

984
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: When I was twenty years old, I might stare back,

985
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: someone looks at me funny. Now it's like whatever, I

986
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: don't care. No, I'm not claiming to be like Chuck Light. Hell,

987
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Go kicks ass? But my

988
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: point is like little things and then on top of

989
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: anything work related, like you have a question that there's

990
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: a disagreement or something that you think that like that

991
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: that money doesn't add up. Just ask I think the

992
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: thing that I didn't do younger that I definitely do now.

993
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just because whether you own the revenue

994
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: or you're in business with people like I'm in control

995
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: and all of the buck kind of ends with me,

996
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: that you're just quicker to ask, like, Hey, what's going

997
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: on here? What are we doing here? You get ahead

998
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: of things faster before I would just let things happen

999
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: and then react. And sometimes you don't have a choice,

1000
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: but uh, I'd say, don't be, don't hesitate if you're

1001
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: if you think something instead of assuming the worst or

1002
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: even the best, but usually typically assume the worst, just

1003
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: try to get ahead of it. Ask I respect your

1004
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: work and connections in the league and have heard from

1005
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: your story countless times. I just want to say thank you.

1006
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: The last great way of being. I just don't want

1007
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: to read a compliment. I'm forty and been a pothead

1008
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: for years. Responsible have a family, a career, and just

1009
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: love to get high in my downtime. Keep preaching helping

1010
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: people mentally change because you can help many of these

1011
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: future players. I appreciate that it's a good Uh this,

1012
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't have questions to have a compliment and yeah,

1013
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: you guys don't need to hear that. Oh you know,

1014
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: I like them. You know that make you feel good

1015
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: be lying if I said they didn't. But like I

1016
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: said on the maturity thing, you can't like in this

1017
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: position I'm in, I get a lot of positive things

1018
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: that are direct messages to me, and you also like,

1019
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm glad I make a few people feel good, But

1020
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: you gotta be kind of careful if not, just like

1021
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's where human nature. You see

1022
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of people saying nice things about you, you're like,

1023
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: kind of damn, I'm pretty good at this. That's you know,

1024
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: you just try to act the same. I appreciate that.

1025
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: But what I said about weed is true. And I

1026
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: got family in the beer business and they've done very well,

1027
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: but to act and they'd be the first anyone in

1028
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: the beer business would tell you. I mean, I'll call

1029
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: is harmful and I listen, I had I had drunks

1030
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: Friday night. Yeah, Friday night. I mean, I'm not anti

1031
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: drinking by any means, but the notion the way I

1032
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: grew up and I still see it. Because some of

1033
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: these states not federally legal, I think a lot of people.

1034
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: And I've invested pretty heavily in weed. Thought the Democrats

1035
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: would make it. But it's like you know, Kamala Harris

1036
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: when she was the district attorney in San Francisco, she

1037
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: was very anti weed. It's one thing that like in

1038
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: some of my weed investments, you know, I probably have

1039
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: close to six figures. It makes me a little nervous.

1040
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Like I thought the Biden Harris you know, would just boom,

1041
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: it would be legal. It might be a little bit

1042
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: more challenging than I thought. It Just there's so many

1043
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: different laments with this and and the other thing with politics.

1044
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: I see it with gambling in California, Like why why

1045
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: is gambling not legal in California. Well, I'll tell you why,

1046
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: because we have Indian casinos which are legal, they're untaxed

1047
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: and they have an unlimited amount of cash. Well, they

1048
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: want no part of these gambling companies coming to California

1049
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: because they build big as casinos and they would take

1050
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: market share and it would be a battle. So what

1051
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: do they do They pay after politicians? No different than

1052
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: coming up what was weed? Well it was negatively marketed

1053
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: by who alcohol companies? Well, I'll give alcohol companies, credit,

1054
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: they've pivoted, they're all in on weed companies, they've invested

1055
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: in the weed sector. You know who never wanted weed

1056
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: to become legal tobacco. Now tobacco's fucked. I mean, they're done.

1057
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: But they were a huge part of the negative marketing

1058
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: behind weed, probably well before I was born, but definitely

1059
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: while I was alive, and you know, and funding making

1060
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: sure the uh, you know, the penalties behind it, keeping

1061
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: it federally illegal. It's all kind of messed up. Man.

1062
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: Money makes the world go round. Never forget that. I

1063
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: do have a question, Joe Burrow is really worthy of

1064
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. Question. I saw the college film.

1065
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: You're talking Joe Burrow, the Bengals. I saw the college

1066
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 1: film and understand that he's undeniable talent, But I don't

1067
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: know about a first overall. Is there something I'm not

1068
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: seeing or understanding. I've never bought into him. Well, he

1069
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: was a one year wonder. Now his one year was incredible,

1070
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, absolutely jaw dropping, one of the greatest seasons

1071
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. Uh. I would say the little bit

1072
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: that we saw before he got hurt, he looks pretty good.

1073
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: Now he's not gonna be Aaron Rodgers. He doesn't have

1074
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: that type arm. He's not gonna be Mahomes, He's not

1075
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: gonna be Josh Allen. He's not gonna even be Russell.

1076
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: He's really I think, to me, if he becomes what

1077
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: I think people hope he becomes, he's like a better

1078
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: version of Tony Romo. And I think Tony Romo was

1079
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: a stud. Not Tony Romo threw some picks, but he's

1080
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: kind of a playmaker. Well, Joe Burrows kind of a

1081
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: playmaker too, and you know Romo like Borrow that they

1082
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: didn't have the strongest arm in the world. And it

1083
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: turns out like you know, Romo is a big time athlete. Now,

1084
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: obviously he was a much bigger, more pedigree behind as

1085
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: a high school kid and in college at Ohio State

1086
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: and l s U relative to UH. I always get

1087
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: the Illinois schools messed up. Whatever school Sean Paige and

1088
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Tony Romo went to, I think it's different Jimmy Garoppolo school,

1089
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: but one of the Illinois. So it's just I'd say

1090
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: the biggest negative un Burrow, why I don't think he

1091
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: will ever be an elite, elite player is his arms

1092
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: just not you know, dominant, But Drew Brees wasn't either,

1093
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: and he had a hell of a career. I'd say

1094
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: his biggest detriment is his franchise. They're a joke. I mean,

1095
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: Zack Taylor, listen. I just don't agree with taking Jamar

1096
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Chase over over an offensive lineman. I just don't because

1097
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: you could have got a sweet defense or a wide

1098
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 1: receiver in the second round. I would rather have gone

1099
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: offensive lineman wide receiver. That would have been me. But

1100
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't run the Bengals. My question is, do you

1101
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: think the Steelers made the right choice going Nazi at

1102
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: twenty four then going tight end in the second or

1103
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: do you think they should have went running back then

1104
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: a line instead of tight end. Will the run game

1105
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: improve if it didn't win drafting Mendenhall to replace Willie

1106
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: Parker without drafting offensive line early. I like menden Hall.

1107
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: I remember, I liked him a lot. I think Naji

1108
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: is a better player. I mean, I think Naji can

1109
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: be pretty freaking awesome. I will be shocked if Naji

1110
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: is not a pro Bowl level guy in the NFL.

1111
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: I really will. I think he's a big time talent,

1112
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: big time uh. I would bet on Naji Harris now

1113
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: tight end over offensive line. I'd be lying if i'd

1114
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: have to, like text somebody in the league that studied

1115
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: them or you as a fan, No, your offensive line

1116
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: better than me. I would always go offensive line. But

1117
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do if you don't have an

1118
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: offensive line meant grade at high. The problem with the

1119
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: Steelers is like big draft at the end rounds, So

1120
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: all the offensive lineman got drafted the first and early

1121
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: in the second round, Like, what are they supposed to do?

1122
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Draft some tackle? A pick twenty four in the second round?

1123
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: If they guy if the tight end, I think it's

1124
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: tight end for Penn State, right if the tight ends

1125
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: the best guy on their board, Like, I don't know.

1126
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean a tight end does play a role in blocking. Now,

1127
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I knew much about

1128
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: the tight end they drafted. But I I can't. I

1129
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: can't hate on that. I think the Steelers and Kevin

1130
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Colbert know what they're doing. A big fan of the pod.

1131
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: Be sure to announce when you come out to Phoenix

1132
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: next lunch on me in old Town Scottsdale, just talking

1133
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: NFC Western real estate. I like this guy thanks for

1134
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: the d M. Kevin. I'm gonna look in this week

1135
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: about exploring to buy a place. It's kind of a

1136
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: balance because I I am not planning on selling my

1137
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: place in Walnut Creek in the Bay Area, so I

1138
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: want to keep that at What I thought about is

1139
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: maybe going instead of buying a house in Scott Sale,

1140
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: maybe going condo and I can kind of split it

1141
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: with Airbnb and not split it with Airbnb. I own

1142
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: it and airbnb it when I'm not there. So if

1143
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm in Northern California, going back and forth, but when

1144
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm there, I could just live there, my place, my

1145
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: pay my mortgage so cheap here. I don't know. I'm

1146
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: kind of going back and forth with some different ideas.

1147
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: We'll see. Because when I bought this condo in the

1148
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: Bay the market was out of control. I paid. I

1149
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: paid fifty dollars over asking. Luckily they fucked up on

1150
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: some contingencies and I got it turned out to be

1151
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: like forty five, but it was I paid. I paid

1152
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, it's pretty crazy how much I

1153
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: paid for where I live. I can't my next purchase.

1154
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: I want to be a deal now. I wanted to

1155
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: be nice, you know, I don't know. I'm kind of

1156
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of go back and forth. It's tough, you know,

1157
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: being a thirty six year old with disposable income and options.

1158
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm a Cowboys fan. Didn't expect the Cowboys number one pick.

1159
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: What's your honest opinion on it? Everyone I know in

1160
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: the league love the guy. They didn't pick up Vander

1161
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: Esh's fifth year old today, which isn't shocking. He gets

1162
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: hurt all the time. I just think they took the

1163
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: best player on the board. They would have taken one

1164
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: of the two corners. They went eight nine. What was

1165
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: Jerry supposed to do? Unlike the Raiders, Jerry made a move.

1166
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: Jared's like ship, well, I gotta play against DeVante Smith,

1167
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: whether he goes the Eagles or the cow or the Giants.

1168
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: I might as well have to get an extra third

1169
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: round pick out of it and get the same guy

1170
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: was gonna take anyway, especially once the Giants traded up

1171
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: with with the Bears, and he might have known that

1172
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna take the Bears offer once he

1173
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: traded the Eagles for DeVante Smith because the Giants or

1174
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Bears were trying to trade with Jerry Jones,

1175
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: but he didn't want to go back down that far,

1176
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: so he knew the moment he traded with the Eagles

1177
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: that the Bears would probably immediately trade up for the Giants.

1178
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: So it's bang bang boom. I see a Jerry, don't

1179
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: sleep on the old oil man with the plan. I'm

1180
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: on the board at the Barracuda up in Reno, Tahoe.

1181
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: I'd like to get you invited as a v I

1182
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: P and get you in the pro am. Glad. This

1183
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: is this is You're making my world right here. Uh,

1184
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: it's not as sweet as the event. I have a

1185
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: family friend who's played in the barracouta several times. I'm

1186
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: gonna call this guy. I like where this guy is. Uh,

1187
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: Glenn is my type of guy. Invited me to play

1188
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: in the PG. You know it's a it's a lower

1189
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: nd PGA event, but hey, you know Baker's can't be choosers.

1190
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: Just trying to get my foot in the door. Rogers

1191
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: going the forty Niners time date stamp. Yeah, I don't

1192
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: think that's happening. I meant, at this point in time,

1193
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm the Niners. It's crazy as it sounds.

1194
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: Because listen, Aaron Rodgers one of the greatest players of

1195
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: all time. Like, I'm just going all in with Tray Lance.

1196
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: He's twenty years old. You got him under contract. I mean,

1197
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: let's face it, Roger's a little bit of a drama queen.

1198
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: He's a lead player. But like, I don't have it

1199
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: unless you take Trey Lance for Aaron Rodgers straight up,

1200
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: which they're not gonna do. Like I'm not giving you

1201
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: Tray Lance, George Kittle and Nick Bosa because if I'm

1202
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: the Packers, like Trey Lancer, Aaron Rodgers ain't getting done.

1203
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: I I need several players. I'm not. I'm just not

1204
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: doing it. But I don't understand about Rodgers. Why did

1205
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: he wait so long just to mess with the Packers?

1206
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: Why why didn't he do this like in free agency?

1207
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: Is it just because his girlfriend, fiance wife, whoever, you know,

1208
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: whatever they are officially the title is wants him out

1209
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: in l A. Is it really just that simple? Which

1210
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: I understand, But why why do you wait? Like I

1211
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: don't just don't I get If I'm a Packer fan,

1212
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: It's like, are we serious? Like we screwed up drafting

1213
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: Jordan Love Aaron We pay you a lot. You win here.

1214
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: Your life is pretty good. No one messes with you here.

1215
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: You got a pretty good gig. I love your take

1216
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: on mac Jones the Nighters being a total smoke screen,

1217
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: and find it shocking to hear cowards believe the rumor

1218
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: so adamantly. Although he agrees it's not a smart pick.

1219
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: We're trading up for cure us to see what happens. Okay,

1220
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: these are before the draft. My take was simple, Like Colin,

1221
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: I talked to Daniel Jeremiah on the phone last week. Uh,

1222
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: everyone that I knew, like that they were adamant they

1223
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: were taking mac Jones because there were a couple of

1224
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: people pushing that narrative, the differences. I eat, breathe, and sleep.

1225
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: This team. I know this team like the back of

1226
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: my hand. I followed Kyle and John really closely. I

1227
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: know a couple of people up top in that building.

1228
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: Now I didn't. I'm not saying I knew who they

1229
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: were gonna take. I just knew this simple fact. Since

1230
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: John Lynch and Kyle Shannon have showed up, they don't

1231
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: leak anything. If if there's any you know, secret nature

1232
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: to what's going on, Like when they traded for Trent

1233
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, it was obvious they were gonna try to

1234
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: resign him and like that there was nothing to hide there.

1235
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: But in this situation, I was like, you know, I

1236
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: don't know that they would just be going around like

1237
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: high school rumor and telling everyone. I got this situation

1238
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: a little red flagged. This does not add up for me.

1239
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: Never added up for me. It just didn't, uh. And

1240
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: I was just I never believe they were gonna take

1241
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: mac Jones. Now I do believe they could have. I

1242
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: do believe that Kyle like Mac Jones, but I give

1243
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: however it played out, I give Kyle credit did under

1244
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: no circumstances. He selected Michael McCorkle Jones, and I like

1245
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: Michael McCorkle Jones. I think Macs a good player. Uh.

1246
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: Like I said on the Weekend Pod, I think fifteen

1247
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: is even high form. Like mac Jones did not fall

1248
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: in this draft. You could argue he was. He was

1249
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: overdrafted still by the Patriots. To me, Mac Jones probably

1250
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: should go somewhere like twenty five or after. That's still

1251
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: a little high. Like that second round and that there's

1252
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: nothing I think that sounds like offensive. Great players go

1253
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: in the second round all the time when I work

1254
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, are two best players to Sean Jackson

1255
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: Shade McCoy, we're second round Like there's there's nothing wrong

1256
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: going in the second round. I I can list a

1257
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: litany of elite players in the history of the league

1258
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: that have been second round players. There's not an unlimited

1259
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: amount of first round picks, and not everyone is a

1260
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: first round value. I heard the Panthers GM said it.

1261
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: John Schneider has been saying it for years. Most teams

1262
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: have fifteen to twenty first round grades on players. That means,

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Speaker 1: in a given draft of hundreds of hundreds of players,

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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty probably on your typical team have first

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Speaker 1: round grades. That is elite company. Mac Jones just was

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Speaker 1: not an elite prospect, really good player, good prospect. Nothing

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Speaker 1: about him was elite nothing, not one thing, especially that

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Speaker 1: you can quantify. It's like, well, you had it, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys have it. Guys get drafted.

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Speaker 1: A lot of fifth rounders get drafted that have it.

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Speaker 1: So that ain't that ain't enough? You know, it's just

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Speaker 1: not And I just I just knew the Niners aren't.

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Speaker 1: They're not the talkative group like John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: I just I had a hard time believing that they

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Speaker 1: were just texting everyone in their plans. It's clear it

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Speaker 1: wasn't That just wasn't true. It wasn't the case. Torey

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Speaker 1: Lance is now their quarterback until Aaron Rodgers the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but I doubt that happens. Appreciate everyone listening, Have a

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Speaker 1: great week. See a Friday