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Speaker 1: this week, boom Man. I needed a break from my vacation,

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Speaker 1: a Chicago mayoral committee. They're exploring the feasibility of putting

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Speaker 1: a dome on top of Soldier Field to make it

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Speaker 1: more attractive as a facility to potential users, including the Bears.

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Speaker 1: The dome, though, they're saying, is almost certainly going to

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Speaker 1: require a taxpayer subsidy of some kind. Total cost estimates

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Speaker 1: to put a dome on Soldier Field four hundred million

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Speaker 1: to one point five billion have been thrown out there

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Speaker 1: as numbers. I don't know if they're purely arbitrary or

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're hard and fast figures. That's,

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Speaker 1: first of all, that's a hell of a range for

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Speaker 1: a dome, from four hundred million to one point five billion,

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Speaker 1: like one point one billion dollars four hundred million or

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Speaker 1: a little more than triple that, Like what how do

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Speaker 1: you And it comes down to the design of it,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Is it going to be Is

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Speaker 1: it gonna be one of the you know pop tents

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Speaker 1: where they have the the keV lar surface and it

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Speaker 1: keeps the weather out but not the temperature. Or is

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Speaker 1: it gonna be a dome more like Texas Stadium or

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Speaker 1: Jerry World down in Dallas, or one of the Heart

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Speaker 1: or the Louisiana Superdome. Going to be one of those

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Speaker 1: kind of facilities. Um, that's where you get the range in.

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Speaker 1: What's the thing, how's it going to be designed, what's

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Speaker 1: it gonna look like, what's it gonna take? Number of

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Speaker 1: exact changes? What else they got to upgrade to get

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Speaker 1: it there? Now, I'll say this too. One of the

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Speaker 1: things about Chicago they have never gone expensive when they

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Speaker 1: even when they renovated, even for the new Soldier Feet Remember,

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Speaker 1: if you've ever been to Chicago, the old Soldier Field

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Speaker 1: was an iconic structure. Looked like it was Romanesque, big,

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Speaker 1: huge circle, way bigger than a football field. It was

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Speaker 1: enormous and it looked really impressive, old style columns, stone

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Speaker 1: columns all the way around. It was awesome looking. And

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Speaker 1: what they did in their renovation was they just built

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Speaker 1: They left that impressive old facade and put a space

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Speaker 1: age shiny chrome stadium inside of it like it looked,

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Speaker 1: you said it, and that's what they say. It looks

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Speaker 1: like a spaceship just landed in the old Soldier On.

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Speaker 1: Now here's one another thing. Before they renovated Soldier Field,

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Speaker 1: it was an atrocity. It was turf was bad, it

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Speaker 1: was laughable. The state it was in. There are county

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Speaker 1: fairs with rodeo sta hands better than what Soldier Field was.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was awful, so that when they renovated it,

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Speaker 1: whether it was good or bad, when they didn't put

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Speaker 1: a new stadium, and everybody loved it because it was

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Speaker 1: light years from the from the barn that with the

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Speaker 1: dirt floor that they were in for decades, basically, anything

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00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: would have been better, anything would have been better. So

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Speaker 1: the fans loved it. Critics who've seen other stadiums panned it.

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Speaker 1: They said, what the heck, what do you This is ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: What is it? They didn't like it, and for a

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Speaker 1: lot of reasons. They were the traffic flows, the concourses,

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Speaker 1: all the stuff that makes it. It was horrible, but

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Speaker 1: it was new and they loved it. So you can

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Speaker 1: imagine what they're going through now in Chicago with this

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Speaker 1: renovation or that you know they're gonna shoe string it again.

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Speaker 1: It'll be upgraded and they'll be better, particularly in bad

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Speaker 1: weather games. But my expectations are are appropriately low. The

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Speaker 1: thing is, for one point five billion, you could build

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Speaker 1: a whole new thing from scrap. I know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand and preaching history of Soldier Field, but one

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00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: up to one point five bill let build a whole

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Speaker 1: new thing, and don't let's not forget. They got to

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Speaker 1: this point where the politics in Chicago, as pristine and

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Speaker 1: Angelica as they are, I say that with great sarcasm,

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00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: finally got to the point where they started addressing Soldier

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Speaker 1: Field because the ownership of the Bears bought land out

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Speaker 1: in what I can't even remember the name of the

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Speaker 1: suburb way north out of Arlington Heights Racetrack. They bought

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Speaker 1: the land and got the optional land. They're gonna build

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Speaker 1: their own stadium out away from the city, which will

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Speaker 1: draw all the revenue away from the city as well.

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Speaker 1: So them doing that, getting the options starting say listen,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna finance it ourselves. We're gonna get it done.

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Speaker 1: The city of Chicago finally said, oh, well, maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: put a four hundred million Maybe we'll put a one

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Speaker 1: point five billion dollar roof on the old stadium. What

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Speaker 1: do you think? That's where they're at there, And that's

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Speaker 1: that's how multi layered the politics are in Chicago and

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00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: why they're at this point. And this was months ago

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Speaker 1: when they first this was last year when they took

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Speaker 1: up the option on the Arlington Heights stuff. So it's

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00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: a train wreck in Chicago, man, both political, politically and

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Speaker 1: football wise. That's why they're gonna be They're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: first in the draft. To discuss we'll put that on

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Speaker 1: the whiteboard to discuss bigger and better things as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to football. With Bill's training camp closing in, we

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Speaker 1: ask you today who must have a great training camp

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Speaker 1: this summer and why we know this is not going

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Speaker 1: to be an easy roster to make for some who

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Speaker 1: has to put together the best training camp of their

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Speaker 1: life to give themselves the best chance to be on

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Speaker 1: this roster come week one eight oh three five fifty

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Speaker 1: The number to get on board one eight fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty or you can hit us up on the

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Speaker 1: twee cheat at one bills Live and give us your response.

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Speaker 1: There there's plenty of people to choose from. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you that Steve and I will get into some

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Speaker 1: of the names we think belong on that list. And

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Speaker 1: why next. Here on one Bills Live presented by Collata Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve's tasker with you, and we have a

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Speaker 1: trade alert. We were just talking about him and it's happened.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Every grade alert. Baker Mayfield has a new

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Speaker 1: football team. It's the Carolina Panthers who are acquiring Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield from the Browns for a twenty twenty four conditional

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Speaker 1: fifth round draft choice. I'm assuming if he starts a

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Speaker 1: number of games, it could become a fourth rounder. This

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00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: is according to NFL Networks. He and Rappaport and Tom

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00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Pella zero and they split. The deal is pending a physical.

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00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: All parties split the financials, so he was due eighteen

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Speaker 1: point eight five million dollars, so cutting in half and

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Speaker 1: nine point four two for each team to pay. And

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Speaker 1: Baker gets a chance to compete with Sam Darnold to start,

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Speaker 1: who got drafted two picks after him, and the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen NFL they get the one and the three pick

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Speaker 1: of the night twenty eighteen draft, and then you also

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Speaker 1: have Matt Corrall, who was a third rounder that they

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00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: drafted this year, and you'd trade all of them for

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Speaker 1: the two guys selected after after those. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: there's still time for them to pick up Josh Rosen

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00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: if they could pick up Josh Rosen as well. They're

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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: not all the misses the other two though, But that

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Speaker 1: all right. So Baker Mayfield is gonna play were Carolina? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for his eighteen point eight five million, Well, you're assuming

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00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: he's starting, and well, if he's on the team, he

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00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: makes it. Sam Darnold, he didn't, he just sign an extension?

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00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: What is his deal? I will I will check, but

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00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: I think he's signed an extension after he was traded there. Yeah, um,

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00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: but that was over a year ago. It's is really

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00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: interesting that's been spoken about a lot, and well, now

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Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense why Seattle said, hey, we didn't

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00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: we didn't want no Darnold, just like Baker Mayfield is

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00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: on a fifty year option eighteen point eight five million.

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00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: So both of these guys are making identical money last

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Speaker 1: year their contract, and Carolina is only paying half of

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's money. If Baker Mayfield is this much better Arnold,

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Speaker 1: I think Sam's get I think Darnold's getting thrown overboard. Yeah,

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00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: they might hit the little button on the eject seat.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's I don't know. Does he Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this in the NFC South, No, because they're

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Speaker 1: they're still He's not gonna stick ground because they're still

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Speaker 1: on the hook as guaranteed money for Darnold. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: both guaranteed, so they're gonna both still be there. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be cap if they cut them. Yeah, they'll probably

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00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: beet roommates on the road. They'll be like being on

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Speaker 1: the pre draft circuit all over again. This is great, gosh,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. In the NFC South, does

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, as the starting quarterback for the Panthers move

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Speaker 1: the needle for you at all? Tampa is expected to

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Speaker 1: be the class of the division. If Jamis bounces back

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00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: with a productive season, they could be flirting with second place.

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Speaker 1: Nobody thinks at Lanta is gonna do much of anything. Um, So,

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Speaker 1: what does Mayfield move the needle for you at all?

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Speaker 1: In that NFC South race or or the Panthers still

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00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: a third place team at best. I still think they're

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Speaker 1: I think it's Carolina may be able to give New

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Speaker 1: Orleans a run for its money. Yeah, if they're, if

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00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: they're dynamic, back is Health Bay, and you know that

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00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: they are. They aren't beating Tampa Bay. But they will

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Speaker 1: get some help because Tampa Bay has never beaten New

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Speaker 1: Orleans in or they haven't. It's been like five or

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Speaker 1: six years since they've beaten New Orleans in Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: or in New Orleans, one of the two. Right, so

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00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: they Tampa Bay is lost twice to them, right, So

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00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: there is that um in New Orleans. Yeah, so that'll

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00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: give them some help in the division. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: still I'm with you. A fifth round, a conditional fifth round,

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Speaker 1: or for the first overall player taken first overall in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. H they got the first overall pick of

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Speaker 1: that draft. The fourth overall pick of that draft is

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Speaker 1: what Darnel was man. Kyler Murray how the turntables. Kyler

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00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: Murray has already tweeted out um some encouraging words for Baker,

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00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: who is a fellow Oklahoma alum like Kyler Murray. Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray succeeded Baker Mayfield after he left, and it's all

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Speaker 1: caps workout exclamation point with the shush emoji to Baker Mayfield. There. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you were aware of this, but

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Speaker 1: Tom Pella Sero has mentioned this week one Panthers versus Browns,

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Speaker 1: Oh Nelly and at Brown's it wor is it? I

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find that out. I Anther's host the Browns. Okay,

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00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: that's even better. It's down in Carolina. It would have

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00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: been better in Clear It would have been for us.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else, but for us, that's about as juicy as

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Speaker 1: it gets. My friends Bruce Lee, that is awesome, especially

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Speaker 1: especially if Watson plays. I don't know if any of

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Speaker 1: us expect that. Dad, I'm gonna watch that. You gotta

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00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: watch this Sunday when we're Yeah, the Bills play, We'll

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: be able to watch watch well. Whether we get the

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Speaker 1: game here locally is another story. We might get the

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Speaker 1: jet game or something, but Brown's Panthers with Baker involved

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Speaker 1: on the other side of it, yum yum, give me

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Speaker 1: some oh man that is put that on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. In a rare move, we would decide him

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Speaker 1: to flex our week one game. Yes, I'll no longer

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Speaker 1: be wow. That could be juicy. That could be juicy.

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Speaker 1: That is that is week one. So the Monday night

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Speaker 1: game on Week one is bronchos Seahawks. Okay, that's pretty

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00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: good too, same thing, Russ Wilson going back to Seattle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike Aarafolo from NFL Network is got some details on

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Speaker 1: the financials. The Browns will pay Baker Mayfield ten and

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Speaker 1: a half million this season. The other eight point seven

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Speaker 1: five or you know, eight point yeah, eight point three five.

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00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: The Panthers will pay Mayfield though approximately seven million. Mayfield

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00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: agreed to trim three and a half off his base

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Speaker 1: salary for the trade to happen because we had heard

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Speaker 1: all along, Steve that the Panthers and the Browns were talking,

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Speaker 1: but they could never agree on the financials, and so

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00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: it came down to Baker stepping in and saying, I

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00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: will take three and a half million less, so Carolina,

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Speaker 1: you only have to pay me about five and the

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Speaker 1: Browns pick up the rest of the tab. So that's

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Speaker 1: how it looks like the money's working. Ten and a

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Speaker 1: half to be paid by the Browns to Mayfield five

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Speaker 1: million to be paid to Mayfield by the Panthers and

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Speaker 1: he agrees to take a pay cut of three and

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Speaker 1: a half million. That's kind of that's how bad he

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00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: wanted to get out of That's kind of amazing because

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00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: when Ian Rapper, he had a right Ian rapperparts had,

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Speaker 1: all parties came together on the financials, with the financials,

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Speaker 1: and that meant Baker as well. Yes it did. That's big,

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Speaker 1: really big. That Week one game is gonna be something.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it is gonna be He's gonna be taken.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to be taken? Snaps? And oh man, that's uh,

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Speaker 1: that's some pretty cool stuff. Oh that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: big trade alert for July the six. What do you

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Speaker 1: think about that? All Right, so you get into training campus,

651
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: Darnald Mayfield, Darnald is the guy that's making big money.

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00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: Mayfield now just a guy. He's not even making backup

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Speaker 1: money as far as the Panthers are concerned. They just

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Speaker 1: gave up a fifth rounder for him. You gotta think

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Speaker 1: Baker's and I think most of us do, maybe not

656
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: all of us, think Baker's a better quarterback than Sam Darnold's.

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00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: He's shown more, he's been a little more consistent. He

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00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: struggled to win. He played hurt last year. Arnold has

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Speaker 1: you know, just hasn't gotten done at any level for

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Speaker 1: any team he's played for last year included. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be really intriguing when to see Baker Mayfield. That's a

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00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: training camp. Everybody's gonna have their eyes on. You got

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Speaker 1: two former top three picks, Yeah, going at each other.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gonna the national media will be

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Speaker 1: descending on Carolina Pan. Think about it. There were five

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks picked in the first round of the nine twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen draft, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen,

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Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson taking thirty first or thirty

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Speaker 1: second overall, was the MVP. Josh Allen is maybe as

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Speaker 1: good as well. He's in the conversation for the absolute

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Speaker 1: best quarterback in the National Football League at this point.

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen's not in the league, and Baker Mayfield and

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, the first two guys picked, are now playing

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Speaker 1: for different football teams. And I believe that is the

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Speaker 1: quintessential coin flip as to who you get and if

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Speaker 1: they were they're going to be good or not well.

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Speaker 1: And it also I think accentuates how important it is

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Speaker 1: in terms of your landing spot because now, through no

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Speaker 1: choice of their own, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold are

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Speaker 1: now both on their third head coach, and it's possible

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Speaker 1: for Darnold it's his fourth offensive coordinator. For Mayfield, I

682
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: believe it's his third. It's Mayfield's fourth coach, fourth coordinator,

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Speaker 1: fourth coach too. He came in with Hugh Hugh Douness,

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00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson, Freddy Kitchens, fourth head coach, Stefanski and now

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Speaker 1: the guy Jesus fourth thing. It's just as important what

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Speaker 1: you get dropped into as what you make. It's I

687
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: am totally with you on that these guys get dropped

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00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: and I get it too. Most of these first overall

689
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: picks are going to a train wreck of a team anyway,

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00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: because they're they're the number one pick of the draft.

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Speaker 1: Just like you know, whoever Chicago picks next year or

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Speaker 1: whoever Seattle picks next year is gonna be this guy

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Speaker 1: that gets dropped into that. I'm just gonna keep saying it.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle and Chicago in a vis and Houston

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Speaker 1: or maybe Houston. So one of those three teams. Is

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Speaker 1: going to be the first overall pick of the draft.

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Speaker 1: And that's you know what it happens to the kid

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Speaker 1: after he gets there and who's coaching him and what

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00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: he's got going for him, is gonna have a lot

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Speaker 1: to say about how successful he is. Yeah, it's crazy,

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00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: you know, Sam, I mean, we all of us, we

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Speaker 1: a lot of us really wanted Sam Darnold to be

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Speaker 1: a Bill. We all wanted you know, Baker Mayfield maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, pick, take your pick. Josh. People were

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Speaker 1: clamoring for Josh Rosen because he was the most member,

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Speaker 1: program polished. He came out of a pro system. He

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Speaker 1: ran the pro system the way it was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be run. You know, Lamar was Lamar was a Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy winner, great athlete. Questions about whether you could throw it.

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00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: But now, you know, Baltimore once again shows a lot

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00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: of people how it's done. He said, Okay, if we're

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00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna have this guy, we're gonna build it around him

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Speaker 1: and do what he does. So he's the MVP and

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Speaker 1: they they're in the playoffs every year without exception, well

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Speaker 1: except for last year when he got hurt. When he

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Speaker 1: got hurt early. So It is a quintessential I've always

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00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: heard and I you know you always here that's a

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Speaker 1: coin flip, is the whether the guy's going to be

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Speaker 1: really good or really bad. And this is exactly where

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Speaker 1: what you see four years later Josh Allen's awesome, Lamar

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00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: Jackson awesome. One guy is a complete bust out of

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00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: the league, and the other two guys are like it

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00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: is a complete coin flip. It is, it is, and

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Speaker 1: the last two got well. Two of the last three

725
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: guys are the guys who hit it. You never can tell.

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00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: It's hard to pick horses, man. It is. Apparently Mayfield

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00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: came off of vacation to fly into Charlotte so he

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Speaker 1: can take his physical tomorrow. It's done. I'm there. Guy

729
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: probably didn't even change out of his swim trunks to

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Speaker 1: run to the airport. He ran right out of his

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Speaker 1: flip flops. He still had a my tie in his hand,

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Speaker 1: and he was on the plane headed to Charlotte. This

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Speaker 1: also and Baker Mayfield checked in at two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy five pounds, which, hey, you might be teasing about that.

735
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Speaker 1: But when we come back, there are some interesting photos

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Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson, who's been vacationing in Lake Como. Let's

737
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: just say he hasn't pushed himself away from the dinner

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Speaker 1: Switzer very much, Lake Comen, Italy, Italy. Yeah, there's some

739
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: you can there's some interesting TMZ photos you can get it.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a few lbs to lose. We

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Speaker 1: could get into that next, along with some of your

742
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet as we ask you what

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Speaker 1: Bills player must have a great training camp this summer.

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Speaker 1: We're back with your phone calls and your tweets. Next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by KLADA Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and if you haven't heard,

748
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has been traded to the Carolina Panthers for

749
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: conditional fifth round draft choice. Mayfield takes a three point

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00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: five million dollars pay cut on its eighteen point eighty

751
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: five million dollars salary. The Browns pick up ten and

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00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: a half. The Panthers pick up the remaining five million

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00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: dollars on his contract to be paid out this year

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00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: on his fifth year option. So be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: how that training camp unfolds. But speaking of training camp,

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00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: we are asking you what Bills player must have a

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00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: great training camp this summer. We know this is a

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00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: roster that is not going to be easy to make.

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00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: Which one of the players on the roster do you

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00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: feel has to really hit it out of the park

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00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: in July August in the preseason to ensure a spot

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo's fifty three man roster. So where else do

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Speaker 1: we go but the tweet sheet for your answers at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live and Tweet Sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, and Bryce leads us off and says Dane

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00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: Jackson needs to show up if he wants to be

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Speaker 1: CB two. Obviously he's going to be in a stiff

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Speaker 1: competition with rookie Kaire Elam. I think you can make

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Speaker 1: just the same argument for Kayer Elam, though, Steve, because

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00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: we know how Sean McDermott his coaching staff work. They

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00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: typically do not hand anything to rookies, especially starting jobs,

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Speaker 1: unless they prove they deserve to be in there and

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Speaker 1: they can trust them. It may even be up to

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Speaker 1: Tredavius White to have a great training camp to get

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Speaker 1: out of the point, you know what I mean, so

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Speaker 1: to prove he can still do it. Because Dane Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Kayer Elam, Tarn Johnson, all of these guys are going

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Speaker 1: to come in thinking it's going to be a hot

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Speaker 1: competition when they draft a corner number one. Overall, he's

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00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna get some reps. And everybody else and Tavius, including Tredavius,

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00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: has got some things to prove which you wouldn't normally

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Speaker 1: think he would have to do except that he is

784
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: injured and and a bad one and ACL. So you

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00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: can make a case for any of the corners I

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00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: think outside of kier Elam that have to really kill

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Speaker 1: it during training camp to make a name for themselves

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Speaker 1: because there is gonna be at least one spot open

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Speaker 1: at the corner position, either the CB two or the

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Speaker 1: CB one if Turdavius is not lining up. The difference

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Speaker 1: is if Turdavious isn't gonna line up for training camp

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be delayed at all, then there's two

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00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: spots open CB one and CB two, So then you

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00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: then there's some space there for guys to make a

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Speaker 1: name any even if you're the third corner. You know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make the team. I think when I say that,

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00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: and when I saw this question, when we came up

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Speaker 1: from this question, who has to it, it's like to

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Speaker 1: make the team, it's a fifty three guy. So we

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00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: got people saying like in the next one, and somebody's like,

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00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: like aj Epanessa, Ajpiness ain't getting cut. You know that's true,

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00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: Cody Ford. But if a J. E. Banessa doesn't have

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00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: a killer training camp, he can find himself inactive every week.

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00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: That's why I get that. I get that, But being

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00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: inactive is better than being out of work of Cody

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00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Ford was a name that I had on my list. Yeah, well, um,

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00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: and I can't we were talking about this different guys

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00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: and who was one? I can't even remember who I

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00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: was I was talking about. There's a number of names.

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00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens is a good one. This is his third

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Speaker 1: year coming up and he's he hasn't even seen the

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00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: field in a regular season game. Yeah, so how long

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00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: is he gonna bang around? That kind of those are

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00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: the kind of guys I'm looking at thinking, Well, you know,

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00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: Cody Ford was squeezed out last year and then when

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00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: they started to get injuries and poor play. It was

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00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: I Butker that got went in, and then it was

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00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates that went in and Cody Ford did not.

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Speaker 1: So former second round draft. Yeah, so those are the

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Speaker 1: guys to me that are like, well, what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do? You got a guy like Dan Kessonberry in,

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Speaker 1: Roger staffold, Tommy Doyle, and Spencer Brown. Spencer Brown hasn't

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Speaker 1: taken part too much lately. He just you know, he's

824
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: dealing with some minor stuff. But all of those guys

825
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: are trying to get on the field to take reps

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Speaker 1: with the first team at right tackle. Who's you know,

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Speaker 1: who's the odd man out. They're not gonna keep five

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles, so who's gonna have a great training camp

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Speaker 1: to make sure he's on the squad? I mean on

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Speaker 1: the squad forget about being a starter. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: to me. It might be Tommy Doyle because he was

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00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, he was a rookie here last year and

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00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: was one of the swing tackles and even got some

834
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Speaker 1: time on the field. But now you have a veteran

835
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Speaker 1: like Kessonberry here, you know, among others we're talking about

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about guys who are going to be

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Speaker 1: a starter or a backup. We're talking about guys who

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Speaker 1: are going to be a backup or or enacted if

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Speaker 1: or out of the off the team. That's what we're

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00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: talking about. Those are the guys that's the Those are

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00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: the spots that you have to look at. It's not

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Speaker 1: you know, Dion Dawkins doesn't have to have a great

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Speaker 1: training camp, you know, but Cody Ford, yeah, Tommy Doyle, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know Bates, Yeah, you know, those those kind of

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Speaker 1: guys are Yeah, those those guys maybe completely out of

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Speaker 1: the NFL if they don't have great training camps. So

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the gist of the question. I was

848
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: getting more at when we when we put this out there,

849
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: I know that there are gonna be starters for battle,

850
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: spots for battles, but I don't know somebody's gonna have

851
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: to if if it's Tredavious White and Dane Jackson or

852
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: kyer Elam who's the guy right behind them them and

853
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: tarn Johnson, who's the fifth corner, that's that's the guy

854
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: that's got to have a great training camp right there.

855
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: No question we have to take a break here because

856
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: when we come back, joining us for the second hour

857
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: the show will be former Bill's Wide receiver j D.

858
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: Hill and the co author of a book on Hill,

859
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: luc Giardino, who wrote Go Along the Story of j D. Hill,

860
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: will be here next with j D. Hill and the

861
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: author on One Bill's Line, presented by Kalada Health. It's

862
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been

863
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind

864
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you, Steve a blimp.

865
00:51:54,440 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: We're not even in the straded here of normalcy. All right,

866
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: Welcome to our number two here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

867
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and please to be joined now

868
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: by two of the three members anyway of a main

869
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: book project on the autobiography of j D. Hill, co

870
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: author Luji Ordino and former Bill's Wide receiver j D.

871
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: Hill joining us on the show here in our number two, guys,

872
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: welcome into the show. Glad to have you, and forgive

873
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: my partiality here JD. But I'm going to ask the

874
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: first question of the guy that did a lot of

875
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: the writing, did a lot of the work on this,

876
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: lou why don't you just explain the genesis of this

877
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: project and why it came to be. Well, first of all,

878
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: thanks thanks guys for having us on to talk about

879
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: an incredible story, the life story of j D Hill.

880
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: And it started a conversation we had while having breakfast

881
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: one day. We were talking about JD's charity Catch the Vision,

882
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: and I handed him one of my one of my books,

883
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: and he looked at me and said, Lou, you wrote this,

884
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: and I said yeah. He said all these words, Lou,

885
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, all the words. He says. How about

886
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: the pictures too? I said yep, And he said, Lou,

887
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: we got to do this. And that was it. That

888
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: was the start of it. And then JD started to

889
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: tell me the story and I'm I'm a storyteller. And

890
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: the more the more he told me, the more interested

891
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: we got. And and here we are. Hopefully the book

892
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: will be out. Go Along will be released the end

893
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: of September, in time for JD's Catch the Vision charity

894
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: golf tournament. Well, JD, I know too. You burst onto

895
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: the scene for most Bills fans of nineteen seventy one.

896
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: You were the first round draft pick of the Bills

897
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: you wanted to have. But your story goes well before

898
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo bills, and of course now well well after

899
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: the bills, give us an idea of what can you

900
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: give us a synopsis of what your story has meant

901
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: and what it could mean for others. Thank you for

902
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: me to do this. Uh. It took a lot of

903
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: consideration with my wife and I discussed it at length.

904
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: In fact, I want to share that I just lost

905
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: my wife. We just had our service this past Saturday,

906
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: and which was really tough. She was a major part

907
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: of the book, but now she's gone on to be

908
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: with the Lord. We talked about it and we wanted

909
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: to know, between the two of us, what is the

910
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: purpose for the book that was number one? As it

911
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: a glorification of NFL or is it you know? What

912
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: really is it all about it? And what it came

913
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: down to is um redemption, how I was an athlete,

914
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: how I fell into darkness, and how the Lord delivered

915
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: me um from the muck and de miner. And so

916
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: that being there the case and both of us loving

917
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: and Lord, we decided and we'd give it a shot.

918
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: You know we did. I did hear by your your

919
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: wife of just a few weeks ago. Um after the

920
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: book I think was completed, and now to see this

921
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: project come through must be very difficult for you, and

922
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: also the loss of your daughter as well, um, the

923
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: son in law, my daughter's husband, right, your your son

924
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: in law, excuse me. Um, So it's been a very

925
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: rough recent time and to see this book come out, um,

926
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: it's got to be with mixed emotions, even though it

927
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: was a labor of love for you and Lou to

928
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: get this thing done. Um, it's got to be a

929
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: little bit bitter sweet right now. Yeah, because I can't

930
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: hear her voice. I you know you can't. You can imagine.

931
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: I can share what I think she would say, but

932
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: it's not her And so for me now it's it's

933
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: it's incomplete, if that makes sense. Yeah, right, and God,

934
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: you got me right there, because yeah, anymore, Colen, condolences

935
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: to you and your family for some unspeakable losses here

936
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks. So we appreciate you even

937
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: mustering up the time to come on with us, JD.

938
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: So I'll turn it over to Lou here because you know,

939
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: as we know, j D met his wife Carol in Buffalo.

940
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: She was a native. She still has family here in Buffalo. Um.

941
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: JD pointed out that she was a major driving force

942
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: of the project. So Lou, maybe you can explain for

943
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: us what her level of involvement was and how she

944
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: kind of helped you guys push this right up to

945
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: the finish line. As difficult as it is to deal

946
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: with what's going on in the last couple of weeks,

947
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: there's a message her. Carol was a matriarch of the family.

948
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: She was a powerful woman, a Buffalo native, and a

949
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: big Buffalo Bills fan. They met him Buffalo, and uh,

950
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: it was it was a dream come true. They spent

951
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, the glory, the glory years together and Carol

952
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: was the glue that kind of kept everything together. And

953
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: I know that while we were writing, you know, the

954
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: majority of the of the book, she carefully reviewed all

955
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: the all the manifestation of the stories, the participants, the

956
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: people who were involved, who we talked to, who we interviewed,

957
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: and she was and JD and Carol went back and

958
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: forth discussing every little detail. I mean, even the graphics

959
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: on the cover that they discussed whether or not he

960
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: had a smile or a frown or something as small

961
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: as that. And it was we had had a meeting

962
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks before her passing at our

963
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: house and we had dinner and we met with our

964
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: my co author, Reno Anderson, who's in Saskatchewan, Canada by

965
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: the way, So I didn't even I mean, I heard

966
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: of the Saskatchewan, but I couldn't find it on a

967
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: map if you ask me. But coincidentally JD could because

968
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: a couple of his boys played for the Saskatchewan rough

969
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: Riders up there. So we were having a meeting zoom

970
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: meeting with Reno at our home and we discussed a

971
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: lot of the details. And the one thing I could

972
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: say about this is that her passing, um, it was tragic,

973
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: but her memory will live on a lot longer with

974
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: this book being out there, so that Jad's dedicated the

975
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: book to Curl rightfully. So she was a powerful influence

976
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: through her whole life in that story started a long,

977
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: long time ago, and it's a great story. JD. I

978
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, as I said, your first round draft

979
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: pick in nineteen seventy one of the Buffalo Bills. You're

980
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna have this book coming out in September hopefully for

981
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: all of us. Any plans to come back to Buffalo,

982
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: maybe do a book signing, making some appearances and to

983
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: promote this project. Yes, in back, I'm gonna be back.

984
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 1: Steve probably aware of the alumni weekend run that's coming

985
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: up here in late j late this month, I'm probably

986
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: gonna be in the Buffalo area around the twenty first

987
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: through the twenty seventh. I'm looking to be there. One

988
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: of these things is kind of humorous to me, is God.

989
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: Remember I played with a guy named O. J. Simpson, right,

990
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: and the name of and the name of the book

991
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: and Tyler book to go along. I didn't get to

992
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: do that much right, Well, you did, They just didn't

993
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: throw you the ball. That was the problem. So I realized, JD,

994
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: that you know, there's obviously a football career side to

995
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: this book, but there's also a very spiritual side to

996
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: this book as well. So can you, because most people

997
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: listening to this who are old enough, no JD. The

998
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: football player, Can you just maybe give us some cliff

999
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: notes as to what they can expect from the spiritual

1000
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: side of the book. Yes, if it were not for

1001
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: my wife, I would I don't truly believe that I

1002
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: would be here today. Because of her relationship with the

1003
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: Lord and after leaving the National Football League with the

1004
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: disappointments that I am encountered from not catching the ball.

1005
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: That was where it really started. I was a great

1006
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: athlete and he took the ball out of my hand,

1007
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: and I started questioning myself. The knee injuries that I sustained,

1008
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: the back injuries that I sustained, that started shortening a career.

1009
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: And then I ended up on drugs, walking the streets

1010
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: away in one hundred and sixty seven pounds. I'd lost

1011
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: everything I had except my life. And my wife, Carol

1012
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: was the one that made the call, and that some

1013
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: message in itself a call. She made the call to

1014
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: some godly men and began to put some things in motion.

1015
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: I was living on the street, and if it wasn't

1016
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: for her, I truly can say, and my belief is

1017
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: that I would not be here today. Another thing I'd

1018
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: like to just say with that is that a lot

1019
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: of people are focusing on addiction rather than mental health.

1020
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: It's got to be something mental that's going on that

1021
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: would call for a person. And I use myself as

1022
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 1: an example. What is it? What was I going through

1023
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: in my mind my mental state that would take go

1024
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: from a number one draft choice, an all pro, a

1025
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: great receiver to being walking the streets but nowhere to

1026
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: live in three feet of snow in Buffalo without a jacket,

1027
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: walking into snow to find drugs. That's mental health. And

1028
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: a lot of times we're focusing so much on the

1029
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: addiction that we're not looking at that person's the mental

1030
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: health aspects of it. And so I just thought I

1031
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: would ship. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And Lou, I mean you

1032
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: you had to be kind of you had to walk in.

1033
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how how well you

1034
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: knew JD before you started this project. Obviously you were

1035
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: well acquainted. What did what revelations came about during this

1036
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: project that really opened your eyes to what jd Is

1037
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: life has been all about. Well, the uh the fact

1038
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: that JD has taken up his life in the form

1039
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: of a ministry is um that of course is the

1040
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: his goal, his mission. But my feeling was that the

1041
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: that the story was was much more powerful than that,

1042
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: and it was It's a it was a lifelong challenge,

1043
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: a struggle coming from you know, uh, poor neighborhoods, growing

1044
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: up with that, meeting all the challenges facing off with

1045
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: some of the uh uh the toughest people on the planet.

1046
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: And still still getting himself to the pinnacle and making

1047
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: those choices on the way up and what it really

1048
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: boils down to, and this is the message in the book,

1049
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: and I think this is where we are. It's what

1050
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: does it take to be a difference maker? And there's

1051
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: a whole section in the book dedicated to that being

1052
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: just that. And early on in JD's career there were coaches,

1053
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: amazing coaches, And I had the opportunity to interview ninety

1054
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: eight year old coaches, and that's just an amazing thing,

1055
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: the fact that they're still here and the fact that

1056
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: they can tell the stories and understand how much they

1057
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: influenced JD through his rise and how he met every challenge,

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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of them, you know, you

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Speaker 1: got to read the book to see what they are.

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Speaker 1: And then being faced with things going on in his life,

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01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: up and down, up and down, and he just never

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01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: gave up. And he always went long. He went for

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01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: the long ball. Sometimes you catch it and sometimes you

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: drop it. Hey, LOUI I ain't drop nine. Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: last one, last one I got for you, JD. Is

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Speaker 1: I understand that some of the proceeds of the book

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Speaker 1: are talking to you're talking to Chris Brown. I'm asking

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Speaker 1: you this question, this last one here, okay, um, I

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: understand some proceeds of the book are going to benefit

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Speaker 1: your personal ministry. Catch the vision. Why don't you just

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Speaker 1: share with us, you know how you're pouring into others

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Speaker 1: which with that ministry. Thank you, um. Catch the vision

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01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: is propers twenty nine and eighteen says where there is

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Speaker 1: no vision, the people should perish. And I caught the

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Speaker 1: vision of making a difference in people's lives because it

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Speaker 1: was people that made a difference in my life. And

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Speaker 1: giving back is a requirement. And when the Lord gave

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Speaker 1: me back my life and gave me a vision that

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Speaker 1: I captured being a wide receiver, catch vision for me

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01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: to be able to reach out to help hurting people

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01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: that whether they're on drugs, they're not on drugs, or

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Speaker 1: they're just hurting people. God has given me that that vision.

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01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: And one of the stories I never share, and this

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: is probably one, is that I was I was never

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01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: only saw my father, my real father in my life

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: or one time and I got one touch from him.

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01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: I asked him for fifty cents and he walked by

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01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: me in pushed me into the walls and said, moved, boy,

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01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: I ain't got no money. And that was a stimulant

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01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: for me as a kid that I was going to

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01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: show him one day that what fifty cents really was.

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01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: And and so for me, I just want to be

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01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: able to use my life to let people know that

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01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: there is a thing called overcome and that God is

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01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: a god of grace, mercy and forgiveness. And because without him,

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Speaker 1: none of this that we're doing, even as talking that

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Speaker 1: we're doing, that would would not take place. J D. Hill,

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Speaker 1: former Buffalo Bill Lou Giardino, thanks so much for joining

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01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: us j D. Hill, Go Along the Story of J. D. Hill.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it will be released this September you get a

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Speaker 1: chance to read it. Thanks guys for being a part

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Speaker 1: of the show today and we wish you all the

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01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: best and hopefully cross paths here in Buffalo in the future.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having us. Yeah, no problem, Yeah,

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: go Bills. Good luck with the book. Good luck. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's j D. Hill and Lu Giardino joining

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: us here with that interesting new autobiography goal on the

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: Story of J. D. Hill. Expected to be out on

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01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 1: Amazon and all the other places where you can buy

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: books in late September, So keep an eye out for

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01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: that because just to talking fifteen minutes with him, it

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: sounds like one heck of a story, even beyond the

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: disappointment of his playing career due to injuries. And you know,

1114
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: being on a team that ran the ball forty five

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: times a game. You can bet JD what a much

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: rather played in this era of football, right, yeah, instead

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: of the three yards and a cloud of yards and

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01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: a cloud of dusk when you're out there. The only

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: time you went along was try and take a dB

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: with you hoping it's a decoy, Yes, a decoy. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: an interesting story there. Be sure to keep an eye

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: out for that book. Go along the story of j. D. Hill.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to get back to the tweet sheet as

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Speaker 1: we were asking you today who on the Bill's roster

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Speaker 1: must have a great training camp and why, and we

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: go back to the tweet sheet and some of your

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01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: comments there, and we left off with Steve who said,

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Speaker 1: I feel like aj Epines is the guy that needs

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Speaker 1: to shine at training camp. This year is number three

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01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: for him. It's the year he needs to take a

1131
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: big step. It may be do or die year that

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01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: may determine whether he is a Buffalo Bill moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I hope he shines now. Steve is of the opinion

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01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: and I would probably share this that Epinessa, I don't

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01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: think is in danger of getting clipped off the roster,

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: but it could impact how often he sees the game

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01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: field if he doesn't have and demonstrate measured and defined

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: progress with his individual game here in year three. We

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01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: saw flashes of it Steve last year, but it just

1140
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: wasn't sustained consistency. And this is something that Leslie Fraser

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01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: talked about during Ota sessions, and not only for Epinessa,

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: he said for Bash him and for Rousseau as well.

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01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: He said the time for inconsistency for those three is

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: over right. They need to play well and play well

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01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: all the time, not just flashes. And and certainly those

1146
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: guys have had moments were end games where they played well.

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: It's just been hard to sustain it for them. We've

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01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: talked about how a jppen Asa fought his weight his

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,879
Speaker 1: first year, then last year was in a better place,

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01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: but it was a He's in a position where the

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01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: team has continued to put high value draft assets in

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: his position. He being one of them at Oliver Boogie

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01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: Basham and of course Greg Rousseau, all three other guys

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01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: who were also in that mix. So he's not only

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01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: in it against guys who's not He doesn't have any

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01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: cachet that other guys in his position don't. He's not

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01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: a high draft pick that they gotta make work. He's

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01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: just another guy in that realm. So he's got to

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: be consistent and do some things that we haven't seen

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: him do consistently enough. Let me throw another name at

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Speaker 1: that position at you, Shack Lawson. He's got to have

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: a big training camp, doesn't he. I think he does

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 1: because he got three young guys in the pipeline that

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: were high draft choices of this regime, Number one Von Miller. Now,

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: I know Shaq does offer position flexibility because he can

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: kick down inside on passing downs. He did that his

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01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: last year here in twenty nineteen with great success. But

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: he's got to really show up here in training camp

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: because there's no guarantees for him either. You know, among veterans.

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Speaker 1: He might be one of those veteran type players that

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: really has to show up and show out to ensure

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Speaker 1: he has a spot on this roster. With as deep

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 1: as that end position is. Yeah, there's it's a crowded field,

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: and it's a crowded at the top. You know, they've

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: got some guys with some chops and some cashe So

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what Shack Lawson brings back

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Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills. And he's been around, you know,

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01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: he came from the Bills, he then went to Miami

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01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: and was with the Jets for a minute. There's a

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: reason he's bound to round and it'll be interesting to

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: see if he can overcome the thing reasons teams don't

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: want him and to come up with reasons why the

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Speaker 1: Bills do. I will say this, We hear coach McDermott

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01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: say all the time. We want players to come here

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01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: and be the best version of themselves. The best version

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: of Shaq Lawson was in twenty nineteen with the Bills

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01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: in his entire career. So you have to believe that

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01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: not only the coaching staff, but Shack himself is hoping

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Speaker 1: to recapture that so he can be the best version

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Speaker 1: of himself. Because if he is the best version of himself,

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: he's on this roster. He's on this roster. I believe so.

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01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: But he's he's got to bring it every single day

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Speaker 1: in training camp to prove that he deserves a spot

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: at a very deep defensive end position, no doubt about it. Yeah,

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: and it's it's We've said a ton and the general

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01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: gist of the message is this, this is a very

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Speaker 1: talented roster. They are favored to go to and win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Folks. Yeah, they got some guys and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take a superhuman effort to make this roster. Yea,

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Speaker 1: even for the guys who are proven, they're gonna have

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:16,480
Speaker 1: to bring it. So it's it's gonna be really competitive,

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Speaker 1: particularly upfront because this is a regime in Brandon Bean

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott and Leslie Frasier and probably Ken Dorsey

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01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: as well, they really believe in winning up front because

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01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: early on in this regime's tenure here Josh Allen's rookie

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: year to be precise, they didn't have the guys up

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: front to win and they remember that lesson big time.

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Speaker 1: So they're not gonna go back there. They're gonna they're

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01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna be solid upfront no matter what. And to make

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01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: this squad, you're gonna have to You're really gonna have

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01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: to play your best. Yeah, we have to take a

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01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: break here, but more of your thoughts on the tweet

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: sheet coming up. Who must have a great training camp

1214
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: for the Bills this summer to ensure their spot on

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: the roster? May even have a little time for some

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: NFL true falls as well. All of that coming your

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Speaker 1: way next. Here on One Bills Live, presented by Kaloid

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Speaker 1: of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris brownce Sef Tasker. A heated discussion about

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Speaker 1: greeting cards, about cards in general, yes, and there and

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01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: their shelf life, which we can get into if we

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01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: have time. Yeah. Um, but we have kept off. We

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Speaker 1: have the rest of the tweet sheet, uh here for

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01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: you as we have been asking today who must have

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Speaker 1: a great training camp this summer and why? And we've

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Speaker 1: had some interesting answers thus far. Nathan chimes in with

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01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: Speedy Stevenson with the team bringing in Tavon Austin and

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01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: resigning Isaiah McKenzie. Don't forget drafting Khalil Shaker. If he

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01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: doesn't show something, I gotta think that he's gone. Stevens. Also,

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01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins is even that in the Yeah, and we've

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: already had Hodgens mentioned, but yeah, Stevenson is in that

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: boat too. Basically, anybody at the receiver position who's not

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: named Diggs, Davis, Crowder or Mackenzie, I think really is

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01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: going to have to show up and show out to

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: make this roster because I think six right, we were thinking,

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: is what they're keeping. They got Listen, they got Tavon Austin, Jamison, Crowder,

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01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis, Stefan Diggs. Then you've got Tanner Gentry, Isaiah Hodgens,

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: Jake Kumereau, Isaiah McKenzie, Neil Powu, Khalil Shakier, and Marquez Stevenson.

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: That's and you can all you and I I mean

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: we talk about these guys all the time and they're

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01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: all you know. And the guy that's off the radar

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01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: for a lot of people is Neil powow He's six

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: four two fifteen, undrafted rookie, six four two fifteen. There's

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01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: not many of those guys walking around that locker room.

1245
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: Kumros that Kumro's that tall. He weighs like ten pounds less.

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01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: So there's a long list of wideouts on that there.

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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: And like I've told you before. I got a written

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01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,839
Speaker 1: on the whiteboard out front, the Buffalo Bills draft traits.

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01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna make this squad, you better be

1250
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: able to run fast and catch the ball and run

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01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: good route. You better be a guy. You better be

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01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: you better have some physical traits. Otherwise you're on ear

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01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: and uphill battles. So that so in your room full

1254
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: of those guys and the guys they signed as free agents,

1255
01:16:54,920 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: same thing. So you think about out who's gonna have

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: to have a good camp. There's everybody's gonna have to

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01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: have a good camp. Like I said, it's a deep

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01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: and talented roster. But you kind of draw, you try

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: and go down there, listen, draw the line someplace. Dig's okay,

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01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: he's in. Gabriel Davis, Okay, he's in Jamison Crowder, No way,

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01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he's gonna get cut. Then you got

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01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens, okay, Mackenzie well okay, Now you got Kumero

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01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: for special teams. That's six right there. That means all

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: those guys, Khalil Shaker, Mark Quez, Stevenson, Austin Tavon, Austin

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Speaker 1: all gone, yeah, or on the practice squad in some capacity,

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01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: and it is a sixteen man practice squad again, so

1267
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: you can stash some people there. You have to decide

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01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: whether you want them to be one of the four

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01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: year protector or just leave him out there and run

1270
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: the risk of them getting plucked off your roster to

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01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: be added to a fifty three man roster elsewhere with

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01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: no compensation coming back to you. That's why these decisions

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01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: are going to be critical, and a lot of them

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01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: are going to hinge on the kind of training camps

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01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: these guys are able to put together individually. Rick on

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01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,799
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet goes a different way and says Ken

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01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: Dorsey must have a great training camp. That's a different

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: way to look in at things. Huh. Yeah, I don't

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01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: think Ken Dorsey's losing his job, no, And I don't

1280
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: know that having a great training camp is absolutely of

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: paramount importance. I think he has to ramp himself up

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: and be ready for the regular season. But yeah, it's

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01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: the execution on the field that maybe counts more than anything.

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01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: I get the pointod this is a little bit of

1285
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: a different offense he's taken over than when Brian day

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: Ball was here a year ago. Last four year he's

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01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: got to tweak it a little bit. It's got a

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01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: few different pieces, most notably a guy like James Cook

1289
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: in the mix, which does throw it in there, plus O. J.

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01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: Howard in the mix, which adds a little something extra

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01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: that they have not had. In addition to Dawson Knox.

1292
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: So you've got two contributors at two position groups who

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01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: I would say have been the least contributors. The lead

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01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: have had the least amount of contributions to the offense,

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01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: the tight end spot and the running back spot. I

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01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: think overall wide receivers, I mean, guys are playing great.

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm Josh is making those guys look great. It's been great,

1298
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: and Dawson Knox has come a long way. But to

1299
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: have another guy with some physical abilities and then a

1300
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: running back that does the things James Cook does, that

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01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: puts it right in the lap of Ken Dorsey to

1302
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: get the most out of those things. So I see

1303
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 1: the point of putting him down as having it maybe

1304
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: having a great training camp, but we're talking about guys

1305
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: who may not be on the like on the roster period,

1306
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: practice squad all at somebody's somebody's getting released. Who's going

1307
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: to be yes who's it gonna be? Bruce on the

1308
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says with James Cook and Motor Singletary, Zach

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01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: Moss needs a great camp or he might not see

1310
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: the field during the season. With the depth of the

1311
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: D line. Boogie needs to step up. Not sure where

1312
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: he will actually fit in now, I guess. I mean,

1313
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: we've we've seen encouraging signs from Boogie Basham. He's completely

1314
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: redefined his body composition. He is going to be playing

1315
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: about fifteen to eighteen pounds lighter than You're not going

1316
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: to know who is. There's gonna be some fans out

1317
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: they're not even when he's number fifty five, not ninety six,

1318
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: and he looks different. He looks different, yep. And we're

1319
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: seeing some shots of him now on TV where he's

1320
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: number ninety six from last year and he you know,

1321
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: he had some moments, Let's face it, he did. He

1322
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: had some moments, but he looks like a different, different

1323
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,919
Speaker 1: human being than he did last year. And his teammates

1324
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: have said as much as well. I mean, we were

1325
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: talking to j Up and SA in the spring and

1326
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: he was telling us that Boogie's got that quick twitch

1327
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: to his get off. Now at the line of scrimmage,

1328
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: which if you're coming off the edge, that's pretty important

1329
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: quality to have, and he's got that now because he's

1330
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: not playing at two seventy two anymore. He's playing at

1331
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: two fifty eight to fifty six. So I'm encouraged to

1332
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: see what he brings to the table in training camp.

1333
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's got a step up. Zach Moss is

1334
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: an interesting one, Steve. And the reason it's interesting is

1335
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 1: because I think we can all agree that at its core,

1336
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: you're looking at an offensive backfield that will to some

1337
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: degree have a committee at work. I do think Singletary,

1338
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: barring a poor training camp, will still be the main

1339
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: ball carrier. James Cook. I don't know how he does

1340
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: not factor in based on the skill set he is

1341
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: bringing to the table. He'll be competing with Duke Johnson,

1342
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: who matches He matches Cook the most in terms of

1343
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: skill set at overall, and that leaves you with Zach

1344
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 1: Moss who can give you short yardage in between the tackles,

1345
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: power type running that the other three cannot, at least

1346
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: with the same degree of effectiveness. But is that enough

1347
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: to keep him on the roster. It's a valid question. Yeah,

1348
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: it's a good question. I mean, you look at where

1349
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: the roster is now. Zack Moss is listed at two

1350
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: oh five, Devin Singletary's two oh three, Duke Johnson is

1351
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: two ten, James Cook's a buck ninety. There's not too

1352
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: much difference in these guys. You know, Raheem black Shears

1353
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: a buck ninety, drafted rookie, undrafted room Virginia Tech. You know,

1354
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: what those guys bring to the table is going to

1355
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 1: have to be evident. It's not. It's not like Zach

1356
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: Moss is just like six four, two hundred and thirty

1357
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: five pounder, I means the same size as Devin Singletary.

1358
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: What can he Can he be more productive? Is he

1359
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: going to be more productive? Has he been? Has he

1360
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 1: been working hard like the other guys have. Is he

1361
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: gonna transform himself like Boogie Basham has? What's you know,

1362
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: what's he gonna look like? It's it's but I see it, um,

1363
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, Zack Moss. One of them is going to

1364
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: be a practice squad off the squad off the team.

1365
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: If James Cook, Devin Singletary or the top two, they're

1366
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 1: they're not gonna keep you know, you know Taiwan Jones

1367
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: is gonna be on there, so I'll be third running back.

1368
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: They're not gonna keep five running backs on a on

1369
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: a Sunday. Well, and don't forget you have Reggie Gilliam

1370
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: who doubles as a fullback, who's technically a tight end.

1371
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: So you know, does if if Zach Moss does not

1372
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: rebound from I think what he would call a subpar

1373
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: second season, do they say, well, we'll just handle short

1374
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: yards with Reggie Gilliam. They could, We don't know. So

1375
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that he's got to watch

1376
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: out for. Yeah, in every way of shape and form.

1377
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: Next up on the tweet sheet is JT who says

1378
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: Dan Jackson has the rookie on his tail. Elam will

1379
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: be a Day one starter opposite Trey I'm calling it now. Also,

1380
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Moss needs to bring it or he will be cut.

1381
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Keenam needs a great camp and preseason. I don't see

1382
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 1: us holding on to three quarterbacks. And Barkley's one of

1383
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: the team's favorites and Josh's buddy. Let's talk about quarterback

1384
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: for a second there, Steve, because I think what you

1385
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: have to keep in mind is how they handled three quarterbacks.

1386
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: Last year, you had the starter Josh Allen, you had

1387
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: his backup Mitchell Trubisky, who they paid money, and then

1388
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: you had Davis Webb who spent the year on the

1389
01:24:55,280 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: expanded practice squad. Once again, that expanded practice squad is back.

1390
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: So you have so now you and you trade it

1391
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: essentially for a case Keenum and he's got three and

1392
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: a half million dollars with one year left on his

1393
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 1: contract for the Bills, so you're paying him a million

1394
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: more than you paid Mitchell Trubisky. I would be inclined

1395
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 1: to think he's got the inside track on the backup job.

1396
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: And you say, oh, well, what are they gonna do

1397
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: with Barkley, Then if they're not keeping three, they'll have

1398
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad. Matt Barkley's value and this

1399
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:39,520
Speaker 1: is this is this is no criticism of his abilities

1400
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: on the field, because he has helped this team in

1401
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: the times he has been here and he's capable in

1402
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: every sense of the word. But if he is the

1403
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: quote unquote odd man out because they like keenham More

1404
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: as the backup, He's still gonna be here, mark my words.

1405
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: He's too valuable in the room, the quarterback room. He's

1406
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: too valuable in the locker room as a whole. Yeah,

1407
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,799
Speaker 1: let's let's not forget what case Keenum and Matt Barkley's

1408
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: job is here in Buffalo is to get Josh ready

1409
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: to play on Sunday to win. That's their job. Their

1410
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: job is to help Josh get better, be as buddy,

1411
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: be a sounding board, kick him in the pants if

1412
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: he needs it, let him talk to them so they

1413
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: can talk to the coaches, so exchange ideas. They can

1414
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: be a sounding board. They can be a liaison between

1415
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback coach and Josh, or Josh and the coordinator.

1416
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: They can say things to guys that Josh doesn't want to.

1417
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Their job is to help Josh be as good as

1418
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: he can be and and to like doing it, to

1419
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: thrive in that role, not sit there and sulk and

1420
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: be a pain, you know, like I should be. Not don't. Yeah,

1421
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: not like other guys we've seen down down through the

1422
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: years sabotage to starting quarterbacks jobs so that they can

1423
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: get on the field right because they want to be

1424
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: the guy on the field. Their job is to get

1425
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Josh to play well on the field and help the

1426
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: team win that way, and they gotta be happy doing it.

1427
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: They got to understand it and embrace it and do

1428
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: it certainly to be ready to play if Josh gets hurt.

1429
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: I get all of that, but the expectations change for

1430
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: everybody if Josh goes down right, So their job is

1431
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: to make sure Josh is at his best. Those guys

1432
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: are not that easy to find, particularly guys who are

1433
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: good at it that really do help a quarterback get better.

1434
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: You've seen him. Frank Reich has been a great you

1435
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: know his example of that, Jason Garrett in Dallas all

1436
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,839
Speaker 1: those years. Barkley is one of those guys. Matt Barkley's

1437
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: one of those guys. You've seen other guys around the

1438
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: league be that for players throughout here, Gary Kubiak, for

1439
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 1: John Elway. The list goes on. So, yeah, that's what

1440
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: their job struck. The list is long. We gotta take

1441
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: a break, Steve, and I'll close things up with some

1442
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: of your final thoughts on the tweet sheet next here

1443
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live stay tuned, So we'll give a

1444
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: credit where it's due to Warren Sharp from Sharp Football Analysis.

1445
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 1: In the wake of the Baker Mayfield trade to the

1446
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: Panthers in exchange for a fifth round conditional pick in

1447
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Warren Sharp has pointed out that the

1448
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: Panthers have traded away the following a second round pick,

1449
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: a third round pick, two fourth round picks, a fifth,

1450
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: and a sixth all to assemble a quarterback room of

1451
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, and Matt Corrall. Yeah, it's a

1452
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: lot of draft capital. No ones though, didn't give up

1453
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: any firsts. No, they got want to see. That's they're

1454
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: just a little less money. It's that's like six players. Yeah,

1455
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: and they're getting Baker for five million. That's pretty good.

1456
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Not bad. Yeah, that's not bad. I'm no, that's that's

1457
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: pretty good. We have to remind you we are not

1458
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: here tomorrow or Friday because we make way for Sabers Live,

1459
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: which will have wall to wall draft coverage for three

1460
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: hours tomorrow and Friday. Get ready for those three first

1461
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: round picks for the saves. We'll catch you next week.

1462
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Take care of everybody,