WEBVTT - Bump in the Night

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<v Speaker 1>Whine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi girls, Hi, Hi Kramer. Hi You're good. I'm great. Good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you guys? Good? I think Kristen she just

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the eyeball, like, fine, she's great.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just really coasting through, like which one are we referencing?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you me? So? Yeah? I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's so funny is when you ask someone

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<v Speaker 4>they're like, I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, are you sure? Yeah, it's likely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely lying. Okay. I just can't tell if it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's very all or nothing, like do I just go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just you know, it's all as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>can whine about it. Actually, okay, if you have any

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<v Speaker 1>pins there fore, it's totally fine and I can just

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<v Speaker 1>keep pushing it all down. I seem to be really

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<v Speaker 1>good at that lately. It seems to be the way

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Yeah, sh it down, no time to cry.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be the title of my book if I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote one right now. It's actually a great title, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you like it? Yeah? I actually wrote it down because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe there is something to that I can

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<v Speaker 1>writing a book. I'd love to do that. You should time,

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<v Speaker 1>you should. I just don't have time to cry much.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's write a book. No time to cry, no time

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<v Speaker 1>to fire up the keyboard again.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, speaking of, it's quite funny because I had just

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<v Speaker 4>sent my editor, I'm sorry, my my public agent, book agent,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, six months later, here's your proposal. She had

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<v Speaker 4>asked at least six months ago. Yeah, I just like

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<v Speaker 4>it's been I haven't had a second to sit down,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it's been in between set. Yeah, where I've

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<v Speaker 4>been because I have all my thoughts. I just had

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<v Speaker 4>to glue them together.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be like ready to do it though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and not just like forced.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just hard to find the time to have hours

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<v Speaker 4>to like sit I've been doing it on my lunch

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<v Speaker 4>breaks because I have an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like lunch. I can't take the hour lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just rather not have anything, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's funny is I always thought that the crew

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<v Speaker 4>liked the hour because it's their chance to but they

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<v Speaker 4>they also were like, no, I'd rather just have a

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<v Speaker 4>grazing lunch. Yeah, because you're just tired, you get out

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of get done early. Yeah, but with you

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<v Speaker 1>working lunches were always my jam in the corporate world.

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<v Speaker 1>Love yeah, like give me a box salad gym and

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about your power point. Power point girl. So

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<v Speaker 1>any updates from the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean nothing that's like no, just you know, one

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<v Speaker 4>from like filming till two in the morning and then

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<v Speaker 4>waking up for first day of school. But it was

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<v Speaker 4>that stuff was so fun, like I was just running

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<v Speaker 4>on low. Yeah that next day, but it was so

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<v Speaker 4>exciting and getting the kids off to school and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you gotten used to your Monday Tuesday weekend?

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask I could write until it ends,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because well when this airs, will be done

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<v Speaker 4>with the movie. So this is my final Oh well

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<v Speaker 4>yeah yeah. So it went by fast, which is good.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think I was talking about it. I put

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<v Speaker 4>it in my stories where I feel like I I

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<v Speaker 4>get overwhelmed and then I settle into things.

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<v Speaker 2>So because we had just talked about it, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you were like, oh, this is actually nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved again, I loved, but I did listen back

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<v Speaker 4>and I did I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, well, I kind of did said both.

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<v Speaker 4>I do love sleeping in my bed, and there's just

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<v Speaker 4>so much more responsibility and I not you know, Amy

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<v Speaker 4>is our therapist. You know, she'll be like, can you

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<v Speaker 4>pay someone to do this? And I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to out any more money than I already do,

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<v Speaker 4>so like I know, like I I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>pay someone to do my laundry, right, even though I

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<v Speaker 4>know a lot of people that do and have house

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<v Speaker 4>managers and stuff, but I just I can't justify that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's also like an ROI thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I really love when something's efficient and monetize as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I'm doing some theme but it cost me

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<v Speaker 1>more to do it, I'm than I would rather just

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<v Speaker 1>be with my kids or in my house doing myself. Right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have like such a I had the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing that happened last night and it kept me up

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<v Speaker 1>all night long because you've already not slept. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, no so y'all saw Bushy tailed for not sleeping,

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<v Speaker 1>thank fumes, But yeah, literally so last night.

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<v Speaker 4>So Alan's in Munich, right, and you guys know this.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I've shared it on here, But

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<v Speaker 4>like I used to not be able to sleep alone ever,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I mean, I had the worst anxiety where I

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<v Speaker 4>would wake up again from my abusive relationship where the

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<v Speaker 4>guy would throw me out of bed at three in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning. So like truly, I would wake up at

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<v Speaker 4>three in the morning with like earth shattering anxiety. So

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<v Speaker 4>when I was alone, when I got divorced, that was

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<v Speaker 4>my biggest hurdle was I literally almost stayed with him

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<v Speaker 4>because I was like, I don't think I can sleep

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<v Speaker 4>alone in a house like that was what was in

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<v Speaker 4>the back of my mind stop me from divorcing him,

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<v Speaker 4>probably one too many times, like oh no, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if I could sleep like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a terrible debilitating the irony whoop boop boo.

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<v Speaker 1>But then a mic pun No than sleeping alone, then

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<v Speaker 1>I might drop because I love that more. Anyways, moving on, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just funny how everybody's so different, right totally well again,

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<v Speaker 2>like super line came from like trauma I never had

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<v Speaker 2>and until yes, like after and I understand yeah for

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<v Speaker 2>that situation, and I like it. I understand people now

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<v Speaker 2>in general for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was weird though, because I it didn't. That

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<v Speaker 4>peace didn't come up until I was in that marriage.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the correlation between being from that traumatic, abusive

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<v Speaker 4>relationship and then being in an unhealthy, very toxic situation, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>felt very similar. And so it triggered that three in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning. And so when we got divorced. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I remember even when he was in rehab, like I

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<v Speaker 4>would have people come over. I'm sure I didn't I

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<v Speaker 4>have like you come over one night. Yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 4>have you guys, like sleep over. And that was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the reasons where I was like, I need like

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<v Speaker 4>I can't divorce it, like I literally like can't sleep

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<v Speaker 4>without him, or I can't be alone. And so when

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<v Speaker 4>we finally did and I was forced to do it,

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<v Speaker 4>I then loved it like love, love love love loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So now when Alan goes out of town and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>when he goes to visit a sun or when he goes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to train his clients, I will wake up,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't have my anxiety anymore, which is great,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'll just go Okay, it's three thirty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm fine, Like I'm okay, no one's coming to

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<v Speaker 4>hurt me. We're good having said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, last night I look at my alarm app

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching Teddy Mellencamp's ring thing of did I see that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Or she got burglarized? Yes, nope, I'm glad I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see it. Has kept me up every night, like thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about that situation. And I thought about it last night

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm home alone, right, So I'm like, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just go to my alarm dot com system, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I go and I look, and I knew the

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<v Speaker 4>night before that I got home at two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning. So it shows my foyer motion and it

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<v Speaker 4>shows the garage door being locked and shut, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>last night at ten thirty at night, I just look right.

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<v Speaker 4>But then it shows the back door being closed at

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<v Speaker 4>like four two in the morning something like crazy, And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, how did a back door randomly close while

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<v Speaker 4>we were sleeping? But like this alarm map is very

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<v Speaker 4>specific into the to the tee, so I text out

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<v Speaker 4>and I go, hey, I'm kind of spooks right now.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's again on the plane to Munich landing in

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<v Speaker 4>a few hours, and he's like, what's up? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>did you close the door at four something in the morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, no, oh lord. When I like start sweating

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<v Speaker 4>in the bed like this is not going to be fun,

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, Babe, I'm sure everything's fine. Maybe just it

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<v Speaker 4>was like a weird sensor thing like you'll be okay,

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<v Speaker 4>set the alarm. So I set the alarm and lo

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<v Speaker 4>and behold. I wake up at three in the morning,

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<v Speaker 4>I hear this like like this is like pounding noise,

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<v Speaker 4>like not pounding, but like it was almost like a

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<v Speaker 4>door slap shut. But I obviously know the alarm's on,

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<v Speaker 4>so the doors it would censor. I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>just the outside sprinkler system. Like I just hear every

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<v Speaker 4>noise right, and I'm very like alert to it. So

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<v Speaker 4>from three to five I am in my like but

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<v Speaker 4>again it didn't pick up one of my motions when

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<v Speaker 4>I was like going to the close the door. So

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<v Speaker 4>then I'm at three point thirty in the morning going

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<v Speaker 4>like this to my.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if any of my neighbors happening, She's down. No

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<v Speaker 1>on my old body. I'm just like like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like run, like ging fake runs like like a psycho

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<v Speaker 1>in front of my camera thing to see if it

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<v Speaker 1>picks it up. Long story short, I was up from

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<v Speaker 1>three to five, just like a ball of And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have anxiety, like it wasn't like right like you

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<v Speaker 1>just because normally I would I would pass out. I

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<v Speaker 1>would call an ambulance like I was crazy, like anything

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<v Speaker 1>like the mediating with anxiety.

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<v Speaker 4>Where it was like I didn't even have a second

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<v Speaker 4>to like regulate my body was like you're under attack,

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<v Speaker 4>someone's coming, you know this. It's like no, I can

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<v Speaker 4>catch my breath. I'm fine, Like it's all of that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just in my head because I started playing

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<v Speaker 4>back things and then I watched kind of a scary

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<v Speaker 4>movie ish before bed.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the wrong call. So it showed the door opening,

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<v Speaker 1>so the just closing. So this is the weird thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I looked right to see at seven o three

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<v Speaker 4>pm or eight something pm the back door was closed.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, sorry, it was open open, but then it

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<v Speaker 4>closed randomly for something in the morning. Weird anyway, So

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<v Speaker 4>that was my I'm a little tired if that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I was making it you're not doing like

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<v Speaker 1>your best clear thinking. That also freaked me out because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how do I protect me and the babies

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<v Speaker 1>if someone comes in right now? That's that's the anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>I live with. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because I I'm looking at these guys that tried

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<v Speaker 4>to break into her house.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I couldn't have. I'd have been like that it

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<v Speaker 1>it might actually, but not other reasons we think, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh anyways, man, that just another time. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the burglar alarm story. We can pin it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many burglar alarms going off and no

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<v Speaker 2>explanation through my years of house sitting that I it

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<v Speaker 2>drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and the system went off a couple weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but then we're like, is it the fire is it

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<v Speaker 1>the alarm? So it's like, I don't Honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the reasons I don't have one, because

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<v Speaker 2>it it freaked me out so many times on false

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<v Speaker 2>alarms that I was like, I cannot handle this, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not worth it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember years went off, like years ago when

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<v Speaker 1>we were at your house or was it the fire.

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<v Speaker 4>Alarm that was We thought it was the alarm. Then

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<v Speaker 4>the fireman, kid, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>A whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a whole thing. Oh my goodness, it's funny though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was firemen and I was like hanging out with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like that turned out okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a whole enirement and you're like, are you

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<v Speaker 2>guys paid or is this we liked?

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<v Speaker 1>There was a fire?

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<v Speaker 2>We need to The thing is we're asking all the

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<v Speaker 2>questions as the alarms will not stop going all and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, like, hey, so do you guys?

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<v Speaker 5>I know this?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have a wedding ring on. Anyways, that's my update.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. Thank you. How's everyone?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, her kids aren't in school yet, I guess, But

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<v Speaker 2>how how is it with kids back in school?

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<v Speaker 1>Great?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Jason is kind of giving a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a I don't want to go to school, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know the first week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't love it when I was little, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I had a belly ache like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember all the time up until about like fifth grade beyond. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like the first day of school at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to get up. I can't, none

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<v Speaker 1>of us.

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<v Speaker 4>I could get my kids to sleep in, that would

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<v Speaker 4>be amazing, no matter what time they go to bed.

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<v Speaker 4>Their rise in chine at six thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>A same thing. What is that? I don't know? They

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<v Speaker 1>just love the morning. I know other morning people early

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<v Speaker 1>bedtime though. There we go. Yeah, I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>that back positive whine about it. What you got, Kristen,

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<v Speaker 1>because you came in. I okay, I'm gonna I will go.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go high up, high level because it doesn't we

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to get into trenches. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very flexible. I'm a very a type person, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am a little OCD that's like diagnosed. So I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I enjoy a plan and I enjoy a

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<v Speaker 1>standard operating procedure. A laminated sheet with rules is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a you know, do you have your own laminator?

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<v Speaker 1>I wish now that is a bucket list. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like the world that I live in in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry I live in. And we started our own

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<v Speaker 1>label like a year and a half ago, our own

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<v Speaker 1>record label. So that's added another full schedule woven inside

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<v Speaker 1>of all these other schedules. The amount of shifting and

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<v Speaker 1>pivoting and flexibility I have had is like wearing down

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<v Speaker 1>my nervous system. So I brought it to Amy because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, listen, I'm not afraid to be wrong or

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<v Speaker 1>need to do more work in these areas like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really not if you're like you're a control freak, get

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<v Speaker 1>over it and let's figure it out. She would never

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<v Speaker 1>say it like that, but if that's what I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do, I would do it. But I also have

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<v Speaker 1>all of these systems in these things, in these little

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<v Speaker 1>ways I operate because it creates a consus instancy for

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<v Speaker 1>my kids that they wouldn't otherwise have because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a data consistently hardly. Ever, we get him for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six hours, he leaves again, we think we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get him for five days, like last week, we

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<v Speaker 1>get him for two days instead. So that beach trip

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<v Speaker 1>that we did was a really fun reframe of us

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<v Speaker 1>losing three days of vacation with him. So instead we

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<v Speaker 1>took the biggies to the beach and made it Biggie's

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<v Speaker 1>beach vacation. They lived. It was awesome, and we left

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<v Speaker 1>the baby at home so we could uber and it

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<v Speaker 1>was great. But I'm just doing a constant reframing, shifting,

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<v Speaker 1>pivoting all of the time in every area, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little war out and a little irritable. My tolerance

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<v Speaker 1>is down, and I'm just kind of done being flexible,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm tired of accommodating to make sure everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>feeling great and then feeling depleted. Which I'm an enneagram too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if y'all really believe in that, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a solid too with a one wing. So

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<v Speaker 1>justice is great and I love to help out a

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<v Speaker 1>detriment to myself sometimes, but I've gotten so good. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like at better boundaries, and I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I try to create a boundary and I'm like, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got this. It's not that I'm not saying what I need,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that it doesn't get honored hardly anywhere. So

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<v Speaker 1>he told me. She told me I needed to leave

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<v Speaker 1>my last appointment with her and fight for myself. Was

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<v Speaker 1>the quote that I needed to block the calendar because

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<v Speaker 1>we have a ten year wedding anniversary coming up in September,

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<v Speaker 1>and he as a show on our anniversary. It's a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought for sure we would have that together,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he has a show. Fine, but there I

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<v Speaker 1>am right being flexible. So I'm going to meet him

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami and do the show, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go from Miami somewhere probably southern Florida, just so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't spend days traveling and we can just be together.

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<v Speaker 1>But I put my first ever block on the calendar.

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<v Speaker 5>Yay.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever ten years, I've never blocked our calendar, not even

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<v Speaker 1>for babies. It's great, yeah, like their work calendar. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like it says brust block nice, really proud of yea.

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<v Speaker 1>I will it stay? They better not delete your block. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just feel like the whine about

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<v Speaker 1>it is sometimes the flexible people are tired too.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important to tell him that it's important

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<v Speaker 4>to you. Yeah too, like if it was to get

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<v Speaker 4>potential unblocked. It's like, no, we need this and this

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<v Speaker 4>is important not only to me but for us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And he's guarded to speak that.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I blocked it, but I was like, actually would

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<v Speaker 1>love that to be official, because it's hard to like

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<v Speaker 1>it's also like scientifically proven. If you plan vacations, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like really good for you to look forward to something absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't feel like I'm getting that. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to look forward to anything fully because

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<v Speaker 1>it just changes every five minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally the last time was record breaking. It was I

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<v Speaker 1>planned the Orlando trip within ten minutes. He came through

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<v Speaker 1>on a conference call and he's like, nights out, we

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<v Speaker 1>can do this now. And I just looked at sweet

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Christine and I go record breaking. She was like unreal,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just so yeah. I just I am because

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<v Speaker 1>I can operate well and it doesn't mean I sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>want to yeah well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think like scheduled, Like I'm not OCD at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am about a schedule like I can be flexible,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, like you know, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>very scheduled, like we.

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<v Speaker 4>Love to have, but even yesterday you can bring that up.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a perfect example what you helped me take something

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<v Speaker 4>off the calendar that I was like, no, like I

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<v Speaker 4>had to meet that and she was like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 4>sounds not great on your day off, yeah you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, you're right. I just didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to say I didn't want to do it, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm tired and I didn't want to let down people

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, no, we can move it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like great, thank you, absolutely, And I

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<v Speaker 4>like having someone advocating to so well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important.

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<v Speaker 2>There's those moments, right, there's those moments where like this

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<v Speaker 2>is able to be moved, we can be flexible here,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's things where we can't be flexible here,

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<v Speaker 2>so being able to but again, like I love a schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>I love sticking to a schedule. I love all that,

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<v Speaker 2>so it will get me irritable at times too, but knowing, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>your anniversary block, for instance, this is somewhere I can't

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<v Speaker 2>be flexible X, Y, and Z, I can be flexible,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and kind of recognizing those things because some

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<v Speaker 2>things are going to make you more upset, more irritable

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<v Speaker 2>if they move than other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jannet even talked about it because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember even with Scotland, Yeah, shaking scotlansh that

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<v Speaker 1>stressed me out, like up until the week before, even

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<v Speaker 1>until I was like doing this trip solo. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I get why you have to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not coming down, but like I couldn't function

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<v Speaker 2>in that world that.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, even though we have that world that is that

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<v Speaker 1>was tough. Yeah, yeah, it's just wild and I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm just trying to find, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even school for us, which a couple of things you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be proud of for me, proud of me for I

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled my consultation for my potential lift nice and then

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<v Speaker 1>it got moved speaking of because we scheduled a number

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<v Speaker 1>one party on the same day. Oh, totally fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I feel like I might send those kids to

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<v Speaker 1>five day week school after this next year. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that last time. That would be like good consistency. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>it would feel consistent for us. Yeah, And and they're ready,

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<v Speaker 1>which is huge. But I think like just little things,

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<v Speaker 1>like I actually applied to that school, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a step, and not because I don't love where we are,

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<v Speaker 1>but just because I'm like, Okay, we've outgrown this and

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<v Speaker 1>what we need is different. Yeah. I love that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's I'm just tired of being the flexible one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for a minute, Yeah, I get that. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if if the larger thing's stuck and I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be flexible, then maybe the little things would be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's what I feel like could help because now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to grab anything. I can tell. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a control feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Things get just really frustrating, Whereas in my opinion, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they would be as frustrating if the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>things really took weight and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we're held Yeah, but maybe try that. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>move on to a headline this week? Yes do It?

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<v Speaker 4>Bachelor's Madison Pruitt and Husband's and Husbands spark backlash after

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<v Speaker 4>saying it'll be hilarious to spank their baby daughter Hoseanna,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just I have to because I think this matters. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>is how he said it. So I just want people

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<v Speaker 4>to hear it before we go into it. And we

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<v Speaker 4>have the whole context of what this is. So let

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<v Speaker 4>me just play the clip from.

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<v Speaker 1>Really Smart, because I do think context matters that sentence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna play this for you guys right now,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a child.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't just discipline them for being good and obeying you,

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<v Speaker 3>right like if Hosanna obeysis, We're not like come here, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>come here, all right, pull them down, get the you know, mama,

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<v Speaker 3>which will be hilarious when we start spanking, which we

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<v Speaker 3>will on the record. Because the Bible it says folly

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<v Speaker 3>is bound up in a child, but discipline drives it

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<v Speaker 3>far away.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people could say, well, you can discipline them with timeouts.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on it says with the rod. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask a question. Answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he saying it will I don't to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is not depending anything, because I have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of thoughts on this, But it didn't sound like he

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<v Speaker 2>was saying it will be hilarious when we spank her.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what he was saying to because he was

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<v Speaker 2>first talking about we don't just thank them when they

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<v Speaker 2>do like good.

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<v Speaker 3>Things, Jesus, We're not like, come here, girl, come here,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, pull him down, get the you know, mama,

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<v Speaker 3>which will be hilarious when we start spanking, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>When we started, I couldn't tell if he was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about hilarious with what he was talking about beforehand, or

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<v Speaker 2>if okay, yeah, yes, was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good I wanted to make sure. I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure before.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to make sure from context of things, yeap,

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<v Speaker 4>So go for it. I know we've talked about spanking

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<v Speaker 4>and discipline obviously on the show, but his.

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<v Speaker 1>Joyfulness is the most same. I mean, it's weird. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just that's just had more context to it because

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<v Speaker 1>he seems so.

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<v Speaker 4>His context is that when we're talking about the Bible

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<v Speaker 4>and the Rod and now I just don't understand the

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<v Speaker 4>first part. So basically he's saying that about the obeying

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<v Speaker 4>with what she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was saying, like, it's not like we're going to spank

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 2>her when she's obeying. That's the part I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm curious where this joy and happiness comes from

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<v Speaker 2>with talking about spanking. That's where I'm very I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we're missing something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also wild to listen. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations preemptively before your parents is smart to go like

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<v Speaker 1>how would you handle this? How would you Also, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just wild to automatic assume they're gonna have to spank

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>this child. It sounds like they've already discussed it though,

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but like to assume that you would, like I never

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we talked about our views on it at home, Preston

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<v Speaker 1>and right, but I never assumed i'd have to spank

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>love Like I never was like, oh, and when I

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.160
<v Speaker 1>do have to spank her, like, I don't know that.

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>It all feels very like if I if it ever

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<v Speaker 1>got to that point, what's your view on it or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Is a discussion. But yeah, how old is this kid? Baby? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, baby is it's a strange thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>I've never forward thought about hitting my kid. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the part that I definitely talked about, yeah, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that you have your kids absolutely yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>so and that's where it's like, again, that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I because you weren't spanked as a kid, right, oh yeah,

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>oh you were okay for sure? Well so same but

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it was not great on like my end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I you know that piece of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think along with my past, that's where it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are other ways to discipline. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's that the spanking is out of the

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<v Speaker 1>parents and this isn't like against you at all. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just curious when parents do spank, is it out of

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<v Speaker 1>anger or is it out of trying to discipline a case.

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<v Speaker 2>It should never be out of anger, is the you

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 2>know behind it. It should just be out of We

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>learned very quickly with all of ours that it didn't

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 2>it didn't really work. So I would say all of

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>our kids probably were spanked at one point or like

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<v Speaker 2>a little pop. I don't even know if it's a

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>spank and it does. It's hard for me, like to

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>hear you say we don't plan hitting our kids. I

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 2>don't like hearing that. That gives me a negative, like

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not hitting my kids, you know. But everyone feels

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.479
<v Speaker 2>differently about that, and I could, you know, whatever, it

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 2>is a hit, sure, but it's just that's where the negative.

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know what I mean, like it it, that's

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 1>what is thinking. We put a title on it, that

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>makes it. I have no opinion either way, truthfully, but

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like we put a title on it's like if it's

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 1>corrective hitting, it's still hitting.

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean, okay, yeah, right, But we did learn

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 2>quickly all of ours had probably trying to think of

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Ramsied I don't know, but we learned quickly that it

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't necessarily like with Caden, it didn't.

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 1>It didn't really work.

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 2>So we just, you know, I was like, okay, this

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>isn't something that worked, and we didn't, you know, do

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 2>it anymore with him. You know, we did other things.

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm not against it, but I don't like

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>that clip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's something off about the tone of that clip. Yeah.

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>What rubs me is the which we will like that

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>joyful life. It'll be hilarious when we do which, by

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the way, we will like kind of being like our

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like he was already going after the haters that

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>we're going to hate on them about it like he was.

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>It was almost like it was a proud like and

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>which we will like, Oh, I'm sure that's what I

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:53.719
<v Speaker 1>think it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what rubs me because and again I associate

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 4>it with something with my negative past of things, and

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you should ever.

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Be it joyful about hitting. That's where I'm at for sure.

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Even when I say like hitting, it's like hitting spanking, right, yeah, whatever,

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 4>it's just a weird like there's something about the tone

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 4>of that clip that is off, Yeah, very like, which

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:22.719
<v Speaker 4>we will like.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>That's just hilarious. This is a word I would never

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 1>use either.

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<v Speaker 2>And all that to say, like coming from the only

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 2>one in the room that has done it before, I

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>always said that we wouldn't, which is what's funny. And

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Nick never has. It's only been me that's ever done it,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 2>which is also very interesting interesting. Yeah, But for me,

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>it was always in a I've tried this, the shouldn't work,

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 2>don't do it out of anger, I've tried this, let's

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 2>try this, And yes, it was different for every child.

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I can't even remember. I know I've spanked

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>any probably, but I think that it.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Did with Kayden.

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll never forget like giving him a little

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>pop because he kicked me or something and that was

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little out of like a reaction more than

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 2>like an anger or whatever. And he kind of looked

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 2>at me and like hit me back, and I was like, okay, no,

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that was a cat in the street.

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 2>And again to me, it was he was fighting me.

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like changing or changing him or something, and

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 2>he was fighting me kicked me in the face and

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like no, and I kind of like popped

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 2>his leg because he kicked me.

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>And then he just you know, and.

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, that that's not how I,

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, wanted to do it. Other instances were like, okay,

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I've tried this.

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<v Speaker 4>If something comes out of our frustration where it's like

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 4>my snaps like sto right right, Like that is like

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 4>could easily have been a pop u a lag instead

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 4>of like but that's me yelling my reason. My voice

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 4>isn't really the answer either, right right, But it's a

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 4>reaction to the frustration of the pop right right.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I think we all have parents had done

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>like I don't think I well, I don't like I'll

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>never say never about anything, you know, like I just wouldn't.

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>And as a parent, legend specific and I have learned

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>like he has taught me more about myself and my

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>own anger, just because the way we communicate, Like I

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>would never have guessed he just so. I I don't

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>think there's anything wrong with any of the way that

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>anybody's child rearing or doing what they think they need

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to do. It's just such a strange happiness. Yeah about

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>a brand baby and the potential Yeah, of I think

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you're doing that. I think it was more a I

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>know I'm going to get haters.

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go ahead and just throw the way

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 2>he did it, yeah, because again, never say never. I'll

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>tell him they said that, we're not going to and

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>then I ended up doing it a couple of times,

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's like, okay, so never to say never.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm admitting that I have, you know, which isn't

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 2>easy because I'm going to get people coming after me.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I did soap in the mouth of that I wanted

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to remind anybody.

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>But yes, that rubbed me wrong. It's not something I'm

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>sitting here being. I mean, it's not that I'm I'm

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 2>not shameful of it. I'm I'm not sitting here like

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I did things I shouldn't do and I hurt my kids,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Feel that way.

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>But also it's not something I'm joyful about and like

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I loved doing that.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>That was good for me.

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<v Speaker 4>No one they are, you know, believers as well as

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 4>we are. They're looking into the Bible. But is a

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 4>fascinating part of it. I'm curious you know your guys'

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 4>standpoint on that, because I think there's I understand, well,

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand the book. I still question things in there.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 4>And I think, as my pastor says, that's because I'm like, oh,

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand. He goes, well, that's that's where faith

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 4>comes in. Like you should keep asking questions. And I

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 4>think in this area that's where I would go. I

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 4>don't think God wants us to take a rod and

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 4>hit our kids.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I think we need into that. I need to look

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>into it. I'm like, I don't.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand where there's scripture taking the scripture and

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 4>going okay, well, because God said this, do this and

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 4>it's like, but also it can be the rod your

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 4>tone and your.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And in that Bible, like I don't know that specific piece.

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we're educate too literal sometimes, yes, and I think.

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 4>But they're the ones that are saying that though too

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 4>with well, because the scripture.

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing.

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't take a scripture and people can feel a

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.239
<v Speaker 2>million different ways about what that scripture says, and that

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 2>is clearly what they're taking. I'd have to read it

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>before I take a stance, But I think in a

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of instances we take things a little bit too literal.

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>And at the same time, yes, I think that discipline

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>is very important, and I think that that, to me

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>is more the point.

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Probably of what that scripture is saying.

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and i'll and i'll you know, on goo on

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Madison's uh, you know side, where she's started to explain

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 4>to her in a way of parenting where it's we

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be doing this, like whenever I say, Julie,

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>like I don't want to discipline you right now and

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 4>take this away, this is just you know, and that's

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, they're they're doing that along the spanking lines.

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I think she's there's that piece in it,

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 4>which is which I think is good to tell that

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 4>to their kids. So I'm not trying to come down

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 4>on their their parenting in the slightest at all. I

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 4>don't know them, and but it's just how his reaction

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 4>just kind of rubbed me wrong, and that could be

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 4>a piece of my past just coming in.

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>And no, I think that rubbed Yeah. I mean, I

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>think I'm.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 1>Going to do two things on our behalf. I'm going

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to listen to the rest of that podcast, yeah, because

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm so curious about how they got there. Yeah, how

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>did we get here that we're laughing? I feel like

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>we're missing something even if we take the tone of it.

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I imagine if somebody just took like our teeny tiny

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>clip here, So maybe we miss something before we give

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>them a little benefit of the doubt. And I'm going

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>to dig into the ry here all of.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 4>It, because I think that they were just talking about

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 4>parenting because I listened. I listened to it the whole podcast.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I listened to like a good chunk of that twenty minutes,

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 4>and it was them just going into it talking about

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 4>that we're not parenting. The context is there, which is

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 4>why that piece is the most important piece of it.

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I try, and you tried to kick at Yeah,

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>we all tried, guys.

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>It just it came out of nowhere to me with

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the weird part of the beginning, with like disciplining them

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>when they're maybe when they're doing good, really objective.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, it just was weird. It was very

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>odd to me, for sure. Guys. What a time to

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>be alive. You guys good. It was a little oh yeah, no,

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. It always it again.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not like shameful about it, but like when there's

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 2>things like that, and there's certain things that trigger me

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, like I again, but no, we're totally fine.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't bother me.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>But that was, like we can I can disagree with

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 2>anybody on stuff like that.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just think like and I'm not. I also

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was spanked, But I just grew up in such a

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>rageful household that like, my parents framed things to be

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<v Speaker 1>this is my household, my growing up, not you as

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<v Speaker 1>a parent. My parents framed things and created narratives to

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<v Speaker 1>make everything that they were up to Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only remember being spanked like once, so I was, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I did get spanked but I also don't think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember a time where I was like I

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<v Speaker 1>was that was the thing. I did grow up with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of violence, though, it just wasn't against us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just sometimes I'm this has been an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing because recently I've been in a couple of like

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<v Speaker 1>little tiny spats. Yeah, more just like I boil things

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<v Speaker 1>down to just exactly what it is. Like there's this

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<v Speaker 1>like clarity that I have where narratives don't affect it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm like, but that's what it is, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just not me like, but like speaking is hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that you're beating your child. I'm not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that. But like I think sometimes we as a

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<v Speaker 1>society like maybe create things around things to make things

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<v Speaker 1>okay that I don't know, like if we call it this,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's not that. And if we did this, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that, you know, but like that is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and it's okay, it's not we sugarcoat it.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean, Yeah, that's yeah for sure, you know. Yeah, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make am I making any sense?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a mom in my early forties and after being

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<v Speaker 4>out of the workplace workforce for fifteen years to raise

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<v Speaker 4>my kids. I was recently offered a job that feels

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<v Speaker 4>like a dream come true. It's in a field i've

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<v Speaker 4>always wanted to break into. The team seem supportive, and

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<v Speaker 4>the work aligns with with both my interests and the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of impact I want to make. The problem well,

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<v Speaker 4>the salary is quite a bit lower than I was

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<v Speaker 4>hoping for. Not impossible to manage, but definitely tighter than

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<v Speaker 4>i'd like, especially as I try to rebuild financial independence

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<v Speaker 4>At this stage of life, juggling family responsibilities, personal growth,

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<v Speaker 4>and a real desire to feel fulfilled at work, I'm torn.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I take the leap for a job that lights

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<v Speaker 4>me up even if the pay isn't great, or should

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<v Speaker 4>I hold out for something that better reflects my value

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<v Speaker 4>even if it's not as exciting. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 4>tough one because I think if it's something you really

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<v Speaker 4>want to do, like I have taken things that are

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<v Speaker 4>I took a movie this year that was well below

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<v Speaker 4>my quote, but it was something I love being on set.

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<v Speaker 4>I love making movies. I thought it was a really

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<v Speaker 4>fun project, and I think it was one of those

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<v Speaker 4>things where.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're rewarded.

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<v Speaker 4>I think in the end, like this could be something

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<v Speaker 4>that's great, something comes up that better reflects than awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you could always change. But I also understand

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<v Speaker 4>there's a piece too where your expertise is value it

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<v Speaker 4>should valued. So I'm torn with that because I do

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<v Speaker 4>think you should get what you deserve. But if it's

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<v Speaker 4>something you really want to get into, you've try and

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<v Speaker 4>been trying to get into, my gut says, take the leap.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I worked in the music business for like

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<v Speaker 2>no money for a very long time. Yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I loved it, So I am all for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's easier said than done to do that

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<v Speaker 2>as a woman than it is as a man. I

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<v Speaker 2>will that sounds sexist, but I will stand by that

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<v Speaker 2>as long as I'll live, because it is just different,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for a man who's going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>family and supporting a family versus a woman who may

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<v Speaker 2>you may you may not, But I'm all about doing

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<v Speaker 2>what makes you happy if it's less money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I also just wonder if it is so set

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<v Speaker 1>in stone this salary, like is there a way to negotiate?

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes we sure I can speak for myself

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<v Speaker 1>take things as face value and I don't negotiate back. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, oh, okay, that's just is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'd be afraid to ask for more. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>a character flaw for me. I'd be afraid to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hard.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe it's like, hey, I will is there more?

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<v Speaker 4>If not, Okay, I'll do this for this amount of time,

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<v Speaker 4>but moving forward if I if I stay at this

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<v Speaker 4>longer period, I'd like.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that more pay I did that in the music,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was like, hey, I'll you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do this because you know you're worth Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowing that I'm working my way towards something, I think

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes like you just got to know that and in

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<v Speaker 2>the end is there going to be a reward and

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<v Speaker 2>the end are you going to be able to work

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<v Speaker 2>towards something where you're.

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<v Speaker 4>The connections that you're meeting people. That's why I do

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<v Speaker 4>certain things that aren't like all right, will this intro

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<v Speaker 4>me to good other good peeps and producers and this

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<v Speaker 4>and the other. You know, so, yeah, there's things that

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to do potentially later this month where it's

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<v Speaker 4>no money, just going out there and trying to shake

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<v Speaker 4>some hands and it's like you gotta It's something that

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<v Speaker 4>lights up and you gotta do it. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 4>I think, I think, go for it and then the

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<v Speaker 4>right thing will always come along no matter what, if.

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<v Speaker 1>You're if you're open to it, Yeah, I agree, agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what an episode, guys? Is good? A little? I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the camera at one point and go, I

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<v Speaker 1>really feel sad. Do you feel no good? Everything's good.

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<v Speaker 1>We started a podcast just like it's great. On that note,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope to all see you. Thanks, thanks for coming.