1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Whine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Hi girls, Hi, Hi Kramer. Hi You're good. I'm great. Good. Yeah, 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: how are you guys? Good? I think Kristen she just 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: gave me the eyeball, like, fine, she's great. 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: She's just really coasting through, like which one are we referencing? 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: You? 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Are you me? So? Yeah? I'm fine. 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 4: You know what's so funny is when you ask someone 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 4: they're like, I'm great. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, are you sure? Yeah, it's likely. Yeah, 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm definitely lying. Okay. I just can't tell if it's 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: like it's very all or nothing, like do I just go, oh, 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: but it's just you know, it's all as well. I 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: can whine about it. Actually, okay, if you have any 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: pins there fore, it's totally fine and I can just 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: keep pushing it all down. I seem to be really 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: good at that lately. It seems to be the way 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, sh it down, no time to cry. 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: It would be the title of my book if I 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: wrote one right now. It's actually a great title, don't 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: you like it? Yeah? I actually wrote it down because 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I thought maybe there is something to that I can 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: writing a book. I'd love to do that. You should time, 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: you should. I just don't have time to cry much. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Let's write a book. No time to cry, no time 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to fire up the keyboard again. 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: Well, speaking of, it's quite funny because I had just 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: sent my editor, I'm sorry, my my public agent, book agent, 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: I said, six months later, here's your proposal. She had 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: asked at least six months ago. Yeah, I just like 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: it's been I haven't had a second to sit down, 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: and so it's been in between set. Yeah, where I've 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: been because I have all my thoughts. I just had 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: to glue them together. 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: I feel like something like that. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: You've got to be like ready to do it though, Yeah, 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: and not just like forced. 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: It's just hard to find the time to have hours 40 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: to like sit I've been doing it on my lunch 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: breaks because I have an hour. 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't like lunch. I can't take the hour lunch. 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: It's awful. 44 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: I would just rather not have anything, to be honest. 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: And what's funny is I always thought that the crew 46 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: liked the hour because it's their chance to but they 47 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: they also were like, no, I'd rather just have a 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: grazing lunch. Yeah, because you're just tired, you get out 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: of it. 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of get done early. Yeah, but with you 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: working lunches were always my jam in the corporate world. 52 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Love yeah, like give me a box salad gym and 53 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: let's talk about your power point. Power point girl. So 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: any updates from the movie. 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: I mean nothing that's like no, just you know, one 56 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: from like filming till two in the morning and then 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: waking up for first day of school. But it was 58 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: that stuff was so fun, like I was just running 59 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 4: on low. Yeah that next day, but it was so 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: exciting and getting the kids off to school and stuff. 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: So have you gotten used to your Monday Tuesday weekend? 62 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: I was going to ask I could write until it ends, 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: you know, because well when this airs, will be done 64 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: with the movie. So this is my final Oh well 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: yeah yeah. So it went by fast, which is good. 66 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: But I think I was talking about it. I put 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: it in my stories where I feel like I I 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: get overwhelmed and then I settle into things. 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: So because we had just talked about it, yeah, and 70 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: then you were like, oh, this is actually nice. 71 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: I loved again, I loved, but I did listen back 73 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: and I did I didn't. 74 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: I didn't. 75 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: I was like, well, I kind of did said both. 76 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: I do love sleeping in my bed, and there's just 77 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: so much more responsibility and I not you know, Amy 78 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: is our therapist. You know, she'll be like, can you 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: pay someone to do this? And I'm like, I don't 80 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: want to out any more money than I already do, 81 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: so like I know, like I I'm not going to 82 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: pay someone to do my laundry, right, even though I 83 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: know a lot of people that do and have house 84 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: managers and stuff, but I just I can't justify that. 85 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's also like an ROI thing for me. 86 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: I really love when something's efficient and monetize as well. 87 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: So if I'm doing some theme but it cost me 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: more to do it, I'm than I would rather just 89 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: be with my kids or in my house doing myself. Right, guys, 90 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: So I have like such a I had the worst 91 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: thing that happened last night and it kept me up 92 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: all night long because you've already not slept. I know, 93 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: I know, no so y'all saw Bushy tailed for not sleeping, 94 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: thank fumes, But yeah, literally so last night. 95 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 4: So Alan's in Munich, right, and you guys know this. 96 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if I've shared it on here, But 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: like I used to not be able to sleep alone ever, 98 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: Like I mean, I had the worst anxiety where I 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: would wake up again from my abusive relationship where the 100 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: guy would throw me out of bed at three in 101 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: the morning. So like truly, I would wake up at 102 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: three in the morning with like earth shattering anxiety. So 103 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: when I was alone, when I got divorced, that was 104 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: my biggest hurdle was I literally almost stayed with him 105 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 4: because I was like, I don't think I can sleep 106 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: alone in a house like that was what was in 107 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: the back of my mind stop me from divorcing him, 108 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: probably one too many times, like oh no, I don't 109 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: know if I could sleep like this. 110 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: It was a terrible debilitating the irony whoop boop boo. 111 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: But then a mic pun No than sleeping alone, then 112 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: I might drop because I love that more. Anyways, moving on, Yeah, 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: it's just so crazy. 114 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: It's just funny how everybody's so different, right totally well again, 115 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: like super line came from like trauma I never had 116 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: and until yes, like after and I understand yeah for 117 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: that situation, and I like it. I understand people now 118 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: in general for sure. 119 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 4: But it was weird though, because I it didn't. That 120 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: peace didn't come up until I was in that marriage. 121 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: And so the correlation between being from that traumatic, abusive 122 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: relationship and then being in an unhealthy, very toxic situation, uh, 123 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: felt very similar. And so it triggered that three in 124 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: the morning. And so when we got divorced. I mean 125 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: I remember even when he was in rehab, like I 126 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 4: would have people come over. I'm sure I didn't I 127 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: have like you come over one night. Yeah, I would 128 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: have you guys, like sleep over. And that was one 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: of the reasons where I was like, I need like 130 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: I can't divorce it, like I literally like can't sleep 131 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 4: without him, or I can't be alone. And so when 132 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: we finally did and I was forced to do it, 133 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: I then loved it like love, love love love loved it. 134 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: Right. 135 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: So now when Alan goes out of town and stuff, 136 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: when he goes to visit a sun or when he goes, 137 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: you know, to train his clients, I will wake up, 138 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: but I don't have my anxiety anymore, which is great, 139 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 4: Like I'll just go Okay, it's three thirty in the morning, 140 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 4: but I'm fine, Like I'm okay, no one's coming to 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: hurt me. We're good having said that. 142 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: Oh no, last night I look at my alarm app 143 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm watching Teddy Mellencamp's ring thing of did I see that? 144 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Yes? 145 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Or she got burglarized? Yes, nope, I'm glad I didn't 146 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: see it. Has kept me up every night, like thinking 147 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: about that situation. And I thought about it last night 148 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: because I'm home alone, right, So I'm like, let me 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: just go to my alarm dot com system, right. 150 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: So I go and I look, and I knew the 151 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: night before that I got home at two o'clock in 152 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: the morning. So it shows my foyer motion and it 153 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: shows the garage door being locked and shut, right, So 154 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: last night at ten thirty at night, I just look right. 155 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: But then it shows the back door being closed at 156 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: like four two in the morning something like crazy, And 157 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, how did a back door randomly close while 158 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: we were sleeping? But like this alarm map is very 159 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: specific into the to the tee, so I text out 160 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: and I go, hey, I'm kind of spooks right now. 161 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: And he's again on the plane to Munich landing in 162 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: a few hours, and he's like, what's up? And I'm like, 163 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: did you close the door at four something in the morning? 164 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: Yesterday. 165 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: He's like, no, oh lord. When I like start sweating 166 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: in the bed like this is not going to be fun, 167 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: He's like, Babe, I'm sure everything's fine. Maybe just it 168 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: was like a weird sensor thing like you'll be okay, 169 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: set the alarm. So I set the alarm and lo 170 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: and behold. I wake up at three in the morning, 171 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: I hear this like like this is like pounding noise, 172 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: like not pounding, but like it was almost like a 173 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: door slap shut. But I obviously know the alarm's on, 174 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: so the doors it would censor. I think it was 175 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: just the outside sprinkler system. Like I just hear every 176 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: noise right, and I'm very like alert to it. So 177 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: from three to five I am in my like but 178 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: again it didn't pick up one of my motions when 179 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: I was like going to the close the door. So 180 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: then I'm at three point thirty in the morning going 181 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 4: like this to my. 182 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Like if any of my neighbors happening, She's down. No 183 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: on my old body. I'm just like like trying to 184 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: like run, like ging fake runs like like a psycho 185 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: in front of my camera thing to see if it 186 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: picks it up. Long story short, I was up from 187 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: three to five, just like a ball of And I 188 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't have anxiety, like it wasn't like right like you 189 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: just because normally I would I would pass out. I 190 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: would call an ambulance like I was crazy, like anything 191 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: like the mediating with anxiety. 192 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: Where it was like I didn't even have a second 193 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: to like regulate my body was like you're under attack, 194 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: someone's coming, you know this. It's like no, I can 195 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: catch my breath. I'm fine, Like it's all of that. 196 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: It was just in my head because I started playing 197 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: back things and then I watched kind of a scary 198 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: movie ish before bed. 199 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: That was the wrong call. So it showed the door opening, 200 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: so the just closing. So this is the weird thing. 201 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: So I looked right to see at seven o three 202 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: pm or eight something pm the back door was closed. 203 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: Oh no, sorry, it was open open, but then it 204 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: closed randomly for something in the morning. Weird anyway, So 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: that was my I'm a little tired if that's. 206 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was making it you're not doing like 207 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: your best clear thinking. That also freaked me out because 208 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I protect me and the babies 209 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: if someone comes in right now? That's that's the anxiety 210 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I live with. Yeah. 211 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I I'm looking at these guys that tried 212 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: to break into her house. 213 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: Am I couldn't have. I'd have been like that it 214 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: it might actually, but not other reasons we think, I know. 215 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: Oh anyways, man, that just another time. I'm going to 216 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: tell you the burglar alarm story. We can pin it. 217 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: I have so many burglar alarms going off and no 218 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: explanation through my years of house sitting that I it 219 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: drives me crazy. 220 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and the system went off a couple weeks ago, 221 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: but then we're like, is it the fire is it 222 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: the alarm? So it's like, I don't Honestly. 223 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I don't have one, because 224 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: it it freaked me out so many times on false 225 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: alarms that I was like, I cannot handle this, Like 226 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: it's it's not worth it to me. 227 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: I just remember years went off, like years ago when 228 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: we were at your house or was it the fire. 229 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: Alarm that was We thought it was the alarm. Then 230 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: the fireman, kid, it was. 231 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: A whole thing. 232 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: It was a whole thing. Oh my goodness, it's funny though. Yeah, 233 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: I was firemen and I was like hanging out with us. 234 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like that turned out okay. 235 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: We had a whole enirement and you're like, are you 236 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: guys paid or is this we liked? 237 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: There was a fire? 238 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: We need to The thing is we're asking all the 239 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: questions as the alarms will not stop going all and 240 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: I was like. 241 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: Hi, like, hey, so do you guys? 242 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 5: I know this? 243 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: You don't have a wedding ring on. Anyways, that's my update. 244 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: That's a good one. Thank you. How's everyone? 245 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, her kids aren't in school yet, I guess, But 246 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: how how is it with kids back in school? 247 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: Great? 248 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Jason is kind of giving a little bit 249 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: of a I don't want to go to school, but 250 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: you know the first week. 251 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't love it when I was little, Like 252 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I had a belly ache like that. I 253 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: remember all the time up until about like fifth grade beyond. Actually, 254 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: I didn't like the first day of school at all. 255 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: I just don't want to get up. I can't, none 256 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: of us. 257 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: I could get my kids to sleep in, that would 258 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: be amazing, no matter what time they go to bed. 259 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: Their rise in chine at six thirty. 260 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: A same thing. What is that? I don't know? They 261 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: just love the morning. I know other morning people early 262 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: bedtime though. There we go. Yeah, I'm trying to get 263 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: that back positive whine about it. What you got, Kristen, 264 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: because you came in. I okay, I'm gonna I will go. 265 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: We'll go high up, high level because it doesn't we 266 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: don't need to get into trenches. But I feel like 267 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm very flexible. I'm a very a type person, and 268 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: I am a little OCD that's like diagnosed. So I 269 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: know that I enjoy a plan and I enjoy a 270 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: standard operating procedure. A laminated sheet with rules is kind 271 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: of a you know, do you have your own laminator? 272 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: I wish now that is a bucket list. So I 273 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: just feel like the world that I live in in 274 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: the industry I live in. And we started our own 275 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: label like a year and a half ago, our own 276 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: record label. So that's added another full schedule woven inside 277 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: of all these other schedules. The amount of shifting and 278 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: pivoting and flexibility I have had is like wearing down 279 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: my nervous system. So I brought it to Amy because 280 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I'm not afraid to be wrong or 281 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: need to do more work in these areas like I'm 282 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: really not if you're like you're a control freak, get 283 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: over it and let's figure it out. She would never 284 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: say it like that, but if that's what I need 285 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: to do, I would do it. But I also have 286 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: all of these systems in these things, in these little 287 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: ways I operate because it creates a consus instancy for 288 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: my kids that they wouldn't otherwise have because we don't 289 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: have a data consistently hardly. Ever, we get him for 290 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: thirty six hours, he leaves again, we think we're going 291 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: to get him for five days, like last week, we 292 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: get him for two days instead. So that beach trip 293 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: that we did was a really fun reframe of us 294 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: losing three days of vacation with him. So instead we 295 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: took the biggies to the beach and made it Biggie's 296 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: beach vacation. They lived. It was awesome, and we left 297 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: the baby at home so we could uber and it 298 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: was great. But I'm just doing a constant reframing, shifting, 299 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: pivoting all of the time in every area, and I'm 300 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: a little war out and a little irritable. My tolerance 301 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: is down, and I'm just kind of done being flexible, 302 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm tired of accommodating to make sure everyone is 303 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: feeling great and then feeling depleted. Which I'm an enneagram too. 304 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all really believe in that, but 305 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: like I'm a solid too with a one wing. So 306 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: justice is great and I love to help out a 307 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: detriment to myself sometimes, but I've gotten so good. I 308 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: feel like at better boundaries, and I just feel like 309 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: I try to create a boundary and I'm like, I've 310 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: got this. It's not that I'm not saying what I need, 311 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: it's just that it doesn't get honored hardly anywhere. So 312 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: he told me. She told me I needed to leave 313 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: my last appointment with her and fight for myself. Was 314 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: the quote that I needed to block the calendar because 315 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: we have a ten year wedding anniversary coming up in September, 316 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: and he as a show on our anniversary. It's a Sunday, 317 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: so I thought for sure we would have that together, 318 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: and now he has a show. Fine, but there I 319 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: am right being flexible. So I'm going to meet him 320 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: in Miami and do the show, and then we're going 321 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: to go from Miami somewhere probably southern Florida, just so 322 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: we don't spend days traveling and we can just be together. 323 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: But I put my first ever block on the calendar. 324 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 5: Yay. 325 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: Ever ten years, I've never blocked our calendar, not even 326 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: for babies. It's great, yeah, like their work calendar. Yeah, 327 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: like it says brust block nice, really proud of yea. 328 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: I will it stay? They better not delete your block. Well, 329 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like the whine about 330 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: it is sometimes the flexible people are tired too. 331 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: Well. 332 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: I think it's important to tell him that it's important 333 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: to you. Yeah too, like if it was to get 334 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: potential unblocked. It's like, no, we need this and this 335 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: is important not only to me but for us. Yeah, 336 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: And he's guarded to speak that. 337 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: Before I blocked it, but I was like, actually would 338 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: love that to be official, because it's hard to like 339 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: it's also like scientifically proven. If you plan vacations, it's 340 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: like really good for you to look forward to something absolutely, 341 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: And I don't feel like I'm getting that. Yeah, Like 342 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't get to look forward to anything fully because 343 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: it just changes every five minutes. 344 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: Sure. 345 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Literally the last time was record breaking. It was I 346 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: planned the Orlando trip within ten minutes. He came through 347 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: on a conference call and he's like, nights out, we 348 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: can do this now. And I just looked at sweet 349 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Saint Christine and I go record breaking. She was like unreal, 350 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: Like it's just so yeah. I just I am because 351 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: I can operate well and it doesn't mean I sometimes 352 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: want to yeah well. 353 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: And I think like scheduled, Like I'm not OCD at all, 354 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: but I am about a schedule like I can be flexible, 355 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: but at the same time, like you know, like we're 356 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: very scheduled, like we. 357 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: Love to have, but even yesterday you can bring that up. 358 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 4: Is a perfect example what you helped me take something 359 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: off the calendar that I was like, no, like I 360 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 4: had to meet that and she was like, yeah, this 361 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: sounds not great on your day off, yeah you know, 362 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: and I was like, you're right. I just didn't want 363 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: to say I didn't want to do it, yeah, because 364 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm tired and I didn't want to let down people 365 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: or whatever. 366 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: And she's like, no, we can move it. 367 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: And I was like great, thank you, absolutely, And I 368 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 4: like having someone advocating to so well. 369 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: I think it's important. 370 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: There's those moments, right, there's those moments where like this 371 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: is able to be moved, we can be flexible here, 372 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: and then there's things where we can't be flexible here, 373 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: so being able to but again, like I love a schedule, 374 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: I love sticking to a schedule. I love all that, 375 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: so it will get me irritable at times too, but knowing, okay, 376 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: your anniversary block, for instance, this is somewhere I can't 377 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: be flexible X, Y, and Z, I can be flexible, 378 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: you know, and kind of recognizing those things because some 379 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: things are going to make you more upset, more irritable 380 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: if they move than other things. 381 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Well, Jannet even talked about it because I was like, 382 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: do you remember even with Scotland, Yeah, shaking scotlansh that 383 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: stressed me out, like up until the week before, even 384 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 1: until I was like doing this trip solo. I mean, 385 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: I get why you have to do that. 386 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 2: So I'm not coming down, but like I couldn't function 387 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: in that world that. 388 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Way, even though we have that world that is that 389 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: was tough. Yeah, yeah, it's just wild and I'm I 390 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm just trying to find, like you know, 391 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: even school for us, which a couple of things you'll 392 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: be proud of for me, proud of me for I 393 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: scheduled my consultation for my potential lift nice and then 394 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: it got moved speaking of because we scheduled a number 395 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: one party on the same day. Oh, totally fine. But 396 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: also I feel like I might send those kids to 397 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: five day week school after this next year. Yeah, we 398 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: talked about that last time. That would be like good consistency. Ye, 399 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: it would feel consistent for us. Yeah, And and they're ready, 400 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: which is huge. But I think like just little things, 401 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: like I actually applied to that school, which is like 402 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: a step, and not because I don't love where we are, 403 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: but just because I'm like, Okay, we've outgrown this and 404 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: what we need is different. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, 405 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: but it's I'm just tired of being the flexible one. 406 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah for a minute, Yeah, I get that. And maybe 407 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: if if the larger thing's stuck and I didn't have 408 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: to be flexible, then maybe the little things would be like, oh, 409 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: maybe that's what I feel like could help because now 410 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to grab anything. I can tell. It's 411 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: a control feeling. 412 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: Things get just really frustrating, Whereas in my opinion, I 413 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: don't think they would be as frustrating if the bigger 414 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: things really took weight and. 415 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: Yeah we're held Yeah, but maybe try that. Can we 416 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: move on to a headline this week? Yes do It? 417 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 4: Bachelor's Madison Pruitt and Husband's and Husbands spark backlash after 418 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: saying it'll be hilarious to spank their baby daughter Hoseanna, 419 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: and I just I have to because I think this matters. Yes, 420 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: is how he said it. So I just want people 421 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 4: to hear it before we go into it. And we 422 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: have the whole context of what this is. So let 423 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 4: me just play the clip from. 424 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: Really Smart, because I do think context matters that sentence. Yeah, 425 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: here we go. 426 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna play this for you guys right now, 427 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: I have a child. 428 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: You don't just discipline them for being good and obeying you, 429 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: right like if Hosanna obeysis, We're not like come here, girl, 430 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 3: come here, all right, pull them down, get the you know, mama, 431 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: which will be hilarious when we start spanking, which we 432 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: will on the record. Because the Bible it says folly 433 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: is bound up in a child, but discipline drives it 434 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: far away. 435 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: Some people could say, well, you can discipline them with timeouts. 436 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: Hold on it says with the rod. First of all, 437 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I have to ask a question. Answer. 438 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: Was he saying it will I don't to me, and 439 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 2: this is not depending anything, because I have a lot 440 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: of thoughts on this, But it didn't sound like he 441 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: was saying it will be hilarious when we spank her. 442 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: I think what he was saying to because he was 443 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: first talking about we don't just thank them when they 444 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: do like good. 445 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: Things, Jesus, We're not like, come here, girl, come here, 446 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: all right, pull him down, get the you know, mama, 447 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: which will be hilarious when we start spanking, which. 448 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Will be hilarious. 449 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: When we started, I couldn't tell if he was talking 450 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: about hilarious with what he was talking about beforehand, or 451 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: if okay, yeah, yes, was a. 452 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: Good I wanted to make sure. I wanted to make 453 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: sure before. 454 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure from context of things, yeap, 455 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: So go for it. I know we've talked about spanking 456 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 4: and discipline obviously on the show, but his. 457 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: Joyfulness is the most same. I mean, it's weird. Sorry, 458 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm just that's just had more context to it because 459 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: he seems so. 460 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 4: His context is that when we're talking about the Bible 461 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: and the Rod and now I just don't understand the 462 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: first part. So basically he's saying that about the obeying 463 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: with what she. 464 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: Was saying, like, it's not like we're going to spank 465 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: her when she's obeying. That's the part I don't understand. 466 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: And I'm curious where this joy and happiness comes from 467 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: with talking about spanking. That's where I'm very I feel 468 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: like we're missing something. 469 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: I think it's also wild to listen. I think the 470 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: conversations preemptively before your parents is smart to go like 471 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: how would you handle this? How would you Also, it's 472 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: just wild to automatic assume they're gonna have to spank 473 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: this child. It sounds like they've already discussed it though, 474 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: but like to assume that you would, like I never 475 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: we talked about our views on it at home, Preston 476 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: and right, but I never assumed i'd have to spank 477 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: love Like I never was like, oh, and when I 478 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: do have to spank her, like, I don't know that. 479 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: It all feels very like if I if it ever 480 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: got to that point, what's your view on it or whatever? 481 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: Is a discussion. But yeah, how old is this kid? Baby? Right? Yeah? 482 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: I think yeah, baby is it's a strange thing, like 483 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: I've never forward thought about hitting my kid. I guess 484 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: the part that I definitely talked about, yeah, and you've 485 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: talked about that you have your kids absolutely yeah and 486 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: so and that's where it's like, again, that's something that 487 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I because you weren't spanked as a kid, right, oh yeah, 488 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: oh you were okay for sure? Well so same but 489 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: it was not great on like my end of it. 490 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: So for me, I you know that piece of it. 491 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: I think along with my past, that's where it's just 492 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: I think there are other ways to discipline. I don't 493 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: know if it's that the spanking is out of the 494 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: parents and this isn't like against you at all. I'm 495 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: just curious when parents do spank, is it out of 496 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: anger or is it out of trying to discipline a case. 497 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: It should never be out of anger, is the you 498 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: know behind it. It should just be out of We 499 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: learned very quickly with all of ours that it didn't 500 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: it didn't really work. So I would say all of 501 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: our kids probably were spanked at one point or like 502 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: a little pop. I don't even know if it's a 503 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: spank and it does. It's hard for me, like to 504 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: hear you say we don't plan hitting our kids. I 505 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: don't like hearing that. That gives me a negative, like 506 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm not hitting my kids, you know. But everyone feels 507 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 2: differently about that, and I could, you know, whatever, it 508 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: is a hit, sure, but it's just that's where the negative. 509 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, like it it, that's 510 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: what is thinking. We put a title on it, that 511 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: makes it. I have no opinion either way, truthfully, but 512 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: like we put a title on it's like if it's 513 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: corrective hitting, it's still hitting. 514 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, okay, yeah, right, But we did learn 515 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: quickly all of ours had probably trying to think of 516 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: Ramsied I don't know, but we learned quickly that it 517 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 2: didn't necessarily like with Caden, it didn't. 518 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: It didn't really work. 519 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: So we just, you know, I was like, okay, this 520 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: isn't something that worked, and we didn't, you know, do 521 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: it anymore with him. You know, we did other things. 522 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: But no, I'm not against it, but I don't like 523 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: that clip. 524 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something off about the tone of that clip. Yeah. 525 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: What rubs me is the which we will like that 526 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: joyful life. It'll be hilarious when we do which, by 527 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: the way, we will like kind of being like our 528 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: It's like he was already going after the haters that 529 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: we're going to hate on them about it like he was. 530 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: It was almost like it was a proud like and 531 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: which we will like, Oh, I'm sure that's what I 532 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: think it was. 533 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what rubs me because and again I associate 534 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: it with something with my negative past of things, and 535 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: I don't think you should ever. 536 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: Be it joyful about hitting. That's where I'm at for sure. 537 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: Even when I say like hitting, it's like hitting spanking, right, yeah, whatever, 538 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 4: it's just a weird like there's something about the tone 539 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: of that clip that is off, Yeah, very like, which 540 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 4: we will like. 541 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: That's just hilarious. This is a word I would never 542 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: use either. 543 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: And all that to say, like coming from the only 544 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: one in the room that has done it before, I 545 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: always said that we wouldn't, which is what's funny. And 546 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: Nick never has. It's only been me that's ever done it, 547 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: which is also very interesting interesting. Yeah, But for me, 548 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: it was always in a I've tried this, the shouldn't work, 549 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: don't do it out of anger, I've tried this, let's 550 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: try this, And yes, it was different for every child. 551 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: I think I can't even remember. I know I've spanked 552 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: any probably, but I think that it. 553 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: Did with Kayden. 554 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll never forget like giving him a little 555 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: pop because he kicked me or something and that was 556 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: maybe a little out of like a reaction more than 557 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: like an anger or whatever. And he kind of looked 558 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: at me and like hit me back, and I was like, okay, no, 559 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, like that was a cat in the street. 560 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: And again to me, it was he was fighting me. 561 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: I was like changing or changing him or something, and 562 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: he was fighting me kicked me in the face and 563 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: I was like no, and I kind of like popped 564 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: his leg because he kicked me. 565 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: And then he just you know, and. 566 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, that that's not how I, 567 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, wanted to do it. Other instances were like, okay, 568 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: I've tried this. 569 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: If something comes out of our frustration where it's like 570 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: my snaps like sto right right, Like that is like 571 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: could easily have been a pop u a lag instead 572 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 4: of like but that's me yelling my reason. My voice 573 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: isn't really the answer either, right right, But it's a 574 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 4: reaction to the frustration of the pop right right. 575 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think we all have parents had done 576 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: like I don't think I well, I don't like I'll 577 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: never say never about anything, you know, like I just wouldn't. 578 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: And as a parent, legend specific and I have learned 579 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: like he has taught me more about myself and my 580 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: own anger, just because the way we communicate, Like I 581 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: would never have guessed he just so. I I don't 582 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong with any of the way that 583 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: anybody's child rearing or doing what they think they need 584 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: to do. It's just such a strange happiness. Yeah about 585 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: a brand baby and the potential Yeah, of I think 586 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: you're doing that. I think it was more a I 587 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: know I'm going to get haters. 588 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and just throw the way 589 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: he did it, yeah, because again, never say never. I'll 590 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: tell him they said that, we're not going to and 591 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: then I ended up doing it a couple of times, 592 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, okay, so never to say never. 593 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: And I'm admitting that I have, you know, which isn't 594 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: easy because I'm going to get people coming after me. 595 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: I did soap in the mouth of that I wanted 596 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: to remind anybody. 597 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: But yes, that rubbed me wrong. It's not something I'm 598 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: sitting here being. I mean, it's not that I'm I'm 599 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: not shameful of it. I'm I'm not sitting here like 600 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: I did things I shouldn't do and I hurt my kids, 601 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: Like I don't. 602 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: Feel that way. 603 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: But also it's not something I'm joyful about and like 604 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: I loved doing that. 605 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: That was good for me. 606 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: No one they are, you know, believers as well as 607 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: we are. They're looking into the Bible. But is a 608 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: fascinating part of it. I'm curious you know your guys' 609 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: standpoint on that, because I think there's I understand, well, 610 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: I don't understand the book. I still question things in there. 611 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: And I think, as my pastor says, that's because I'm like, oh, 612 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: I don't understand. He goes, well, that's that's where faith 613 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: comes in. Like you should keep asking questions. And I 614 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: think in this area that's where I would go. I 615 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: don't think God wants us to take a rod and 616 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: hit our kids. 617 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: I think we need into that. I need to look 618 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: into it. I'm like, I don't. 619 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: I don't understand where there's scripture taking the scripture and 620 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 4: going okay, well, because God said this, do this and 621 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: it's like, but also it can be the rod your 622 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: tone and your. 623 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: And in that Bible, like I don't know that specific piece. 624 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: I think we're educate too literal sometimes, yes, and I think. 625 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 4: But they're the ones that are saying that though too 626 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: with well, because the scripture. 627 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 628 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: You can't take a scripture and people can feel a 629 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 2: million different ways about what that scripture says, and that 630 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: is clearly what they're taking. I'd have to read it 631 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: before I take a stance, But I think in a 632 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: lot of instances we take things a little bit too literal. 633 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: And at the same time, yes, I think that discipline 634 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: is very important, and I think that that, to me 635 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: is more the point. 636 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: Probably of what that scripture is saying. 637 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and i'll and i'll you know, on goo on 638 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: Madison's uh, you know side, where she's started to explain 639 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 4: to her in a way of parenting where it's we 640 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: don't want to be doing this, like whenever I say, Julie, 641 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: like I don't want to discipline you right now and 642 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: take this away, this is just you know, and that's 643 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: you know, they're they're doing that along the spanking lines. 644 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: But you know, I think she's there's that piece in it, 645 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: which is which I think is good to tell that 646 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: to their kids. So I'm not trying to come down 647 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: on their their parenting in the slightest at all. I 648 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: don't know them, and but it's just how his reaction 649 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: just kind of rubbed me wrong, and that could be 650 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: a piece of my past just coming in. 651 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: And no, I think that rubbed Yeah. I mean, I 652 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: think I'm. 653 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: Going to do two things on our behalf. I'm going 654 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: to listen to the rest of that podcast, yeah, because 655 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm so curious about how they got there. Yeah, how 656 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: did we get here that we're laughing? I feel like 657 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: we're missing something even if we take the tone of it. 658 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: I imagine if somebody just took like our teeny tiny 659 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: clip here, So maybe we miss something before we give 660 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: them a little benefit of the doubt. And I'm going 661 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: to dig into the ry here all of. 662 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: It, because I think that they were just talking about 663 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: parenting because I listened. I listened to it the whole podcast. 664 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: I listened to like a good chunk of that twenty minutes, 665 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: and it was them just going into it talking about 666 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 4: that we're not parenting. The context is there, which is 667 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: why that piece is the most important piece of it. 668 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Well, I try, and you tried to kick at Yeah, 669 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: we all tried, guys. 670 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: It just it came out of nowhere to me with 671 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: the weird part of the beginning, with like disciplining them 672 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: when they're maybe when they're doing good, really objective. 673 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it just was weird. It was very 674 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: odd to me, for sure. Guys. What a time to 675 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: be alive. You guys good. It was a little oh yeah, no, 676 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: that's fine. It always it again. 677 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm not like shameful about it, but like when there's 678 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: things like that, and there's certain things that trigger me 679 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: a little bit, like I again, but no, we're totally fine. 680 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. 681 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: But that was, like we can I can disagree with 682 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: anybody on stuff like that. 683 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think like and I'm not. I also 684 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: was spanked, But I just grew up in such a 685 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: rageful household that like, my parents framed things to be 686 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: this is my household, my growing up, not you as 687 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: a parent. My parents framed things and created narratives to 688 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: make everything that they were up to Okay. 689 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: I can only remember being spanked like once, so I was, but. 690 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: I did get spanked but I also don't think it was. 691 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember a time where I was like I 692 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: was that was the thing. I did grow up with 693 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: a lot of violence, though, it just wasn't against us. Yeah, 694 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: So I just sometimes I'm this has been an interesting 695 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: thing because recently I've been in a couple of like 696 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: little tiny spats. Yeah, more just like I boil things 697 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: down to just exactly what it is. Like there's this 698 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: like clarity that I have where narratives don't affect it. 699 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, but that's what it is, and that's okay. 700 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: I'd just not me like, but like speaking is hitting. 701 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: It's not that you're beating your child. I'm not, it's 702 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: not that. But like I think sometimes we as a 703 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: society like maybe create things around things to make things 704 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: okay that I don't know, like if we call it this, 705 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: then it's not that. And if we did this, then 706 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: it's not that, you know, but like that is what 707 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: it is, and it's okay, it's not we sugarcoat it. 708 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: You mean, Yeah, that's yeah for sure, you know. Yeah, right? 709 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: Does that make am I making any sense? 710 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? 711 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: I'm a mom in my early forties and after being 712 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 4: out of the workplace workforce for fifteen years to raise 713 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: my kids. I was recently offered a job that feels 714 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 4: like a dream come true. It's in a field i've 715 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: always wanted to break into. The team seem supportive, and 716 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: the work aligns with with both my interests and the 717 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 4: kind of impact I want to make. The problem well, 718 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: the salary is quite a bit lower than I was 719 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: hoping for. Not impossible to manage, but definitely tighter than 720 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 4: i'd like, especially as I try to rebuild financial independence 721 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 4: At this stage of life, juggling family responsibilities, personal growth, 722 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 4: and a real desire to feel fulfilled at work, I'm torn. 723 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 4: Do I take the leap for a job that lights 724 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: me up even if the pay isn't great, or should 725 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 4: I hold out for something that better reflects my value 726 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: even if it's not as exciting. I think that's a 727 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 4: tough one because I think if it's something you really 728 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: want to do, like I have taken things that are 729 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: I took a movie this year that was well below 730 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: my quote, but it was something I love being on set. 731 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: I love making movies. I thought it was a really 732 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: fun project, and I think it was one of those 733 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: things where. 734 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: You know you're rewarded. 735 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 4: I think in the end, like this could be something 736 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: that's great, something comes up that better reflects than awesome. 737 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 4: I think you could always change. But I also understand 738 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: there's a piece too where your expertise is value it 739 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 4: should valued. So I'm torn with that because I do 740 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: think you should get what you deserve. But if it's 741 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 4: something you really want to get into, you've try and 742 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: been trying to get into, my gut says, take the leap. 743 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I worked in the music business for like 744 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: no money for a very long time. Yeah, so yeah, 745 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: because I loved it, So I am all for that. 746 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: I think it's easier said than done to do that 747 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: as a woman than it is as a man. I 748 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: will that sounds sexist, but I will stand by that 749 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: as long as I'll live, because it is just different, 750 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: you know, for a man who's going to have a 751 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 2: family and supporting a family versus a woman who may 752 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: you may you may not, But I'm all about doing 753 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: what makes you happy if it's less money. 754 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. I also just wonder if it is so set 755 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: in stone this salary, like is there a way to negotiate? 756 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we sure I can speak for myself 757 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: take things as face value and I don't negotiate back. Well, 758 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, okay, that's just is what it is. 759 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: Like I'd be afraid to ask for more. That's like 760 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: a character flaw for me. I'd be afraid to Yeah, 761 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: that's hard. 762 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: So maybe it's like, hey, I will is there more? 763 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 4: If not, Okay, I'll do this for this amount of time, 764 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 4: but moving forward if I if I stay at this 765 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 4: longer period, I'd like. 766 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,479 Speaker 2: I did that more pay I did that in the music, 767 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: you know, I was like, hey, I'll you know, I'll 768 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: do this because you know you're worth Yeah, that's right. 769 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 2: Knowing that I'm working my way towards something, I think 770 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: sometimes like you just got to know that and in 771 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: the end is there going to be a reward and 772 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: the end are you going to be able to work 773 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 2: towards something where you're. 774 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 4: The connections that you're meeting people. That's why I do 775 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 4: certain things that aren't like all right, will this intro 776 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: me to good other good peeps and producers and this 777 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 4: and the other. You know, so, yeah, there's things that 778 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 4: we're going to do potentially later this month where it's 779 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 4: no money, just going out there and trying to shake 780 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: some hands and it's like you gotta It's something that 781 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 4: lights up and you gotta do it. You know. It's 782 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 4: I think, I think, go for it and then the 783 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 4: right thing will always come along no matter what, if. 784 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: You're if you're open to it, Yeah, I agree, agreed. 785 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: Well what an episode, guys? Is good? A little? I 786 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: looked at the camera at one point and go, I 787 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: really feel sad. Do you feel no good? Everything's good. 788 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: We started a podcast just like it's great. On that note, 789 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: we hope to all see you. Thanks, thanks for coming.