1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. For earlier access to these episodes, access 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: to Ask Me Anything sessions, and extended breakdowns of historical 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: and current events, please consider joining our Warning Premium community 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: by clicking the link in the description to this episode. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: The Republican candidates who seek to beat Donald Trump or 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: warming up. They're moving around the track, getting their sea legs, 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: so to speak. It's why I wore my blue sweatshirt 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: today in honor of their warming up. Well. Chris Christy 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: appeared on Fox News and he was asked some questions 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: about when it's all said and done, can he and 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: his formerly best friend forever Donald Trump makeup now? In 12 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: my years as a campaign consulton, I've watched and evaluated 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands and thousands of interviews coach candidates, CEOs, president, senators, governors, 14 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: you name it, through the answers. One of the things 15 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I've long said to them, to any person that I've advised, 16 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: is the key to an interview is to remember this. 17 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: There are no bad questions, only bad answers. Watch Chris 18 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Christy rack up a split score? Here becomes with nominee? 19 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Do y'all become friends again? 20 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: Does he offer you a cabinet post again, Do y'all 21 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: clean this up if he becomes the nomination. 22 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think some of the some 23 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: of the stuff he's called me over the last few months, 24 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen. And and that's sad, 25 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: but it is the truth of the matter, and it's 26 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: his doing. But you're not closing the doors of voting 27 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: for him. No, I'm saying I can't support him. I 28 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: can't vote. I can't support either one of them, not 29 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Biden or Trump, because they're not competent and qualified to 30 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: be president for different reasons, Joe Biden predominantly because of 31 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: his age and now. 32 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Of course, the evaluation of Chris Christy not so long 33 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: ago was that Donald Trump was the forever leader of 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: a thousand year movement I think right. I mean, he 35 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: was the guy standing behind him at the critical moment 36 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: when Donald Trump still could have gone down in the 37 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: New Hampshire primary aftermath, had the field coalesced around him 38 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: at any rate. If I remember correctly, it was Chris 39 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Christy who evaluated Donald Trump competent to be president, not once, 40 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: but twice. At any rate. He's come around, and that's 41 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: a good thing, because the one thing we should all 42 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: be able to agree on is that perfect definitely isn't 43 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: running in the Republican primary. There's terrible to extinction level terrible, 44 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: some in between, and there's Chris Christy. Now I get 45 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: down on Chris Christi sometimes because I was a Chris 46 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Christie fan and admirer and he really let me down 47 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: by getting behind literally Donald Trump. But at any rate, 48 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: like I said, it's time to let bygones be bygones 49 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: because the second place presidential candidate in the Republican field 50 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: is this fascist. Listen to him. 51 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: Are you in favor of eliminating any agencies? 52 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: I know conservatives in the past have talked about closing 53 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: the Department of Education? 54 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: Would you do that? 55 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: So we would do education, we would do commerce, we 56 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: do energy, and we would do irs. And so if 57 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: Congress will work with me on doing that, we'll be 58 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: able to reduce make the size and scope of government. 59 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: But what I'm also going to do, Martha, is be 60 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: prepared if Congress won't go that far, I'm going to 61 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: use those agencies to push back against woke ideology and 62 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: against the leftism that we see creeping into all institutions. 63 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: Of American life. 64 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Now, the most important thing is to sort and sift 65 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: through this interview looking for the gold and all the 66 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: silt and all the dirt. The first thing to observe 67 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: is the rampant dishonesty and really stupid dishonesty. Is Ron 68 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: DeSantis going to abolish the Department of Energy, the Department 69 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: of Commerce, the Department of Education? He is not. He 70 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: has no chance of doing that, Yet will pretend like 71 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: this is high school model Congress with an extremist kid, 72 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: a dogmatic ideologue declaring fantastical propositions, because that's exactly what 73 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: it is, fantasy. Now, Ron DeSantis isn't the first Republican 74 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: to say he's going to abolish the irs. Who doesn't 75 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: like a good panderer running for president after all, But 76 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: he's the first in memory to declare that he intends 77 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: to use the IRS as a weapon, a blade to 78 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: destroy his political opponents, who practice what he calls woke ideology, 79 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: infected as they are by what he terms the woke 80 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: mind vile, though no one can explain what that is. Apparently, 81 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: the woke mind virus has to do with any organization 82 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: or individual saying anything, doing anything, or taking any position 83 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: whatsoever that Ron DeSantis disagrees with, because if that happens, 84 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: whether you're Joe Schmoe the Baker, whether you're Erica the 85 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: Carpenter or the Walt Disney Corporation, he Ron DeSantis is 86 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: going to use all of the power that he can, 87 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: and even some that he's just making up to get you, 88 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: to punish you. It's quite an advance in philosophy and 89 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: ideology for a party that breached into Banana Republican territory 90 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen when the lock Heer Up chance became commonplace. 91 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: The Republican MAGA movement is America's political party that has 92 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: sought to criminalize politics to crush dissent. Whatever the woke 93 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: mind virus is, Ron DeSantis doesn't like it very much. Apparently, 94 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: if you say that black Americans were once enslaved, and 95 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: that black Americans were once subjugated, and black Americans were 96 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: once oppressed in a Southern apartheid society where they could 97 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: not sit where they chose in a bus or at 98 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: a lunch counter, then you are infected by the woke 99 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: mind virus. If you talk about systemic white violence against 100 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: if you talk about the lynchings and the killings and 101 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: the murder at Tulsa. Apparently you too are infected by 102 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: the woke mind virus. You see, Ron DeSantis lives in 103 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: a fantasy world where he will decide what it is 104 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: that you can think and say and believe, or you 105 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: face punishment by the state. Now there's a word for that, 106 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: call fascism, and the Republican MAGA Party is fascistic in character. 107 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Let's come back to Chris Christy, who, in the end 108 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: is not a bad guy, and he's a talented guy, 109 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,359 Speaker 1: but like all of us, he's a work in progress 110 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: and often misguided. So I'm going to help him through 111 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: this interview with some media advice. It's not about Chris Christie. 112 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: It's about the United States of America. And the reason 113 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: that he can't support Donald Trump is because Donald Trump 114 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: betrayed his country as an existential threat to the survival 115 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: of American democracy. It's not because Donald Trump said mean 116 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: things about Chris Christie's that Donald Trump ran the American 117 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: flag to the ground and trampled it along with the Constitution. 118 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump sought to overthrow a presidential election with violence. 119 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: He ran amuck for four years. He was the worst 120 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: president in American history. We should not countenance the delusion 121 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: that he was anything other than that. This propaganda that 122 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: the economy had never been better, or that these Maggie 123 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: years were golden ones were the unfulfilled camelot of John 124 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Kennedy's presidency, is the most absurd bullshit that I have 125 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: heard in my lifetime of fifty two years. It is 126 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: extraordinary that anybody would have the nerve to declare such 127 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: failure victory, to declare such depravity virtue, to declare such 128 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: lying truthful, and to declare such treachery patriotic. Donald Trump 129 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: is a singular threat. Chris Christie is the only Republican 130 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: candidate running along with Will Hurd, who has said, hell no, 131 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I won't do it again. Like I've said, it's tough 132 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: to move past that spot of why the fuck did 133 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: you do it in the first place, But nevertheless, we're 134 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: all going to have to do that because the effort 135 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: to stop this movement requires making room for new passengers, 136 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: many of whom will be disembarking from the SS Donald Trump. Now. 137 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Each disembarked is a happy occasion, each defection, each person 138 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: who says enough, no matter where they are, whether it 139 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: is sitting in federal prison thinking about their life's trajectory 140 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: and how it is they came to be a seditionist, 141 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: whether it's as a member of Congress thinking about their 142 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: cowardice and how they allowed all of this to happen 143 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: by not stopping it and instead appeasing it. Whether it's 144 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: a voter, whether it's a donor or yes, Chris Christy, 145 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: every person who is an American has a stick in 146 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: stopping this madness. Now. It should have been stopped a 147 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: long time ago. That it wasn't will be judged harshly 148 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: by our descendants. The people who accommodated it will be also, 149 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: But that is not our concern. Our concern is grinding 150 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: it to a forever halt and recreating some sense of balance, normalcy, 151 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: and decency in American politics, a restoration of principle of character, 152 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: of dignity. The American people deserve Americans who can go 153 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: to the most hallow chambers in the nation and work 154 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: it out, look across the table agreeably when disagreeing with 155 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: opponents who see the world differently than they do. And 156 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: let's be clear about a last thing. Today, a majority 157 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: of white judges once again has asserted a fantasy and 158 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: imposed it on the country. The fact of the matter 159 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: is is that life can be very, very hard for 160 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: all of us, don't matter what color you are, what 161 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: gender you are, or sexuality. It's unreasonable to believe that 162 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: a black kid in the inner city, a Hispanic kid 163 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: in an impoverished border town, a white kid in rural 164 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: Appalachia does not have the same advantages for a whole 165 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: host of reasons that other Americans have. It is in 166 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: the national interest to send America's teenagers to college, to 167 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: trade schools, to make sure they are prepared to succeed 168 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: in the twenty first century economy, so they may pursue 169 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: their happiness and prosperity and one day be in a 170 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: position to take their place as national leaders. We want 171 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: more people, not less in college. We want more access 172 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: to higher education. And today, once again, the radical United 173 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: States Supreme Court has slammed a door shut and made 174 00:15:51,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: it harder for Americans who are disadvantaged to climb the latter. Tragic, 175 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but it is the consequence of a radical 176 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: ideology that came to be in effect because of electoral victory. 177 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: It's as simple as that the next election will decide 178 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: whether democracy will cease or continue in the United States. 179 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: And anybody who believes that in a race between Donald 180 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Trump and Joe Biden, that Joe Biden wins in a 181 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: cake walk is as delusional as Donald Trump saying he 182 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: won the twenty twenty election, which I suppose in the end, 183 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: is what Chris Christi is trying to tell us. I 184 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: think that what Chris Christie might really be trying to 185 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: say is that he won't support Donald Trump because Donald 186 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Trump is the greatest threat to this country since Nazism, 187 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: since fascism, since global communism, and since the Confederacy. He 188 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: just can't find the words. Yet he doesn't want to 189 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: sound overwrought. He accused me of being overwrought ironically when 190 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: I said those things about Donald Trump, every one of 191 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: which has turned out to be true. When you think 192 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: about this next election and the months have had, understand 193 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: clearly what it is that you are observing and saying. Indeed, 194 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you are correct. There has not been a presidential candidate 195 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 1: in the modern era who has promised to use the 196 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: irs to get you if he doesn't like what you're saying. 197 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: So congratulations to Ron DeSantis for that, and also congratulations 198 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: to Chris Christy, flawed though he may be, for being 199 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: the only person who can credibly win the Republican nomination, 200 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: alongside Will Hurt of saying what needs to be said 201 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is as unfit as any person in 202 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: this country for consideration of any responsibility. He should never 203 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: have it again.