WEBVTT - Hidden Motives 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.640 I've heard that there's a house that has some bodies 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.240 in the basement. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.440 Somebody told you that Shakaia was a victim of human trafficking. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.119 I'm come to find out. This is like it exploded 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:12.120 into this huge thing. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.560 I knew, I just knew something was wrong. 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.320 Police say thirty three year old Jared Bride Again was 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:17.919 shot dead. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.280 I kept calling his phone during the drive. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.800 Gunned down in front of his two year old daughter. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.160 It's a murder of the stun Jack Speach neighbors. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.880 His murder has attracted national attention, with the investigators saying 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:29.760 he was targeted. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.320 Eventually a police officer answered and told me to come 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:33.320 to the police station. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.760 Justice is something that takes different shapes or forms. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:43.280 If you know something, heard something, please it's never too 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:43.760 late to. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:44.400 Do the right thing. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.080 So I'm Dana Thompson aka Body Movin, and. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.519 I'm John Green. For about a decade, Deanna and I 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.400 spent a lot of time on the Internet, especially in 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.480 the underbelly of the Internet, trying to identify and get 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.120 animal abusers arrested. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.560 We spent countless hours scouring the dark web helping catch predators. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.600 We spent over a year and a half trying to 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.360 get law enforcement to take us seriously about a man 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.880 that was killing cats online and he was threatening to 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.440 move on to kill humans. And that was Luca mcnatdah. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.559 Yeah, you might have heard about the Netflix special called 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:19.600 Don't Fuck with Cats. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:24.360 That's us. Well, now we're turning our online investigator skills 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.520 to some of the most unexplained, unsolved, and just ignored cases. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:35.480 This is true Crimes, the production of iHeartRadio and Kat's studios. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.120 You know, John I was looking at everything and there's 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.959 still so little evidence made publicly available about Jared Bardigan's death, 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.280 and we still have so many holes in the timeline. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.080 I feel we need to talk to Kirsten again to 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.560 try and fill in some of those holes. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.480 Yeah, at this point, I feel like we have a 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.640 really good understanding of what happened the night Jared was murdered, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.520 and we have a bunch of questions that we've been 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.080 writing down. So I think this is a good time 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.040 to talk with Kirsten and ask her our questions about 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:01.480 that night. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.480 I especially want to know more about the allegations about 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.200 Shanea spying on Jared during their divorce. I also want 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:08.959 to know where Jared ate and got ice cream with 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.720 the kids, and that he was killed. We need that 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:11.320 for our map. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:17.200 This is Kirsten. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.480 Hey, Kirsten, how are you? 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:21.040 I'm good? 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:21.560 How are you? 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.560 We just had like a couple questions and we didn't 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.680 want to disturb you, like seven different times, so we 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.240 just got like a bunch together and I hope it's okay. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.600 We just asked you just a couple of things. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.200 Okay. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.639 You mentioned that Jared took the kids to ice cream. Yes, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.600 was that on his way back to the ex wife's 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:41.720 house with the kids. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.600 Yeah, so they went to dinner and ice cream out 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.280 at Jack's speech. They went to the place they got 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.440 dinner is called the Bearded Pig, and then I think 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.560 they just got ice cream at Wendy's before he drove 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.040 them back to their moms. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.480 Okay, so it definitely was on the way drag. Okay, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.720 because we're just mapping everything out, We've got pretty much 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.160 everything except for those couple of things. So it was 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.280 in Jack speets. It wasn't down by your house. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.040 Then, correct? 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.239 No, Yeah, because the time is so short and the 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.680 drive is so long, he would always stay out. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.320 Her direction was the Volkswagen. It was that the car 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.080 that he drove mostly for date night. Yeah, did anybody 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.120 like search the Volkswagen for like a tracker? 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:25.040 Do you know? 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:32.080 I know they? I mean they still have the car, Okay. Yeah, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.400 so I had to claim total loss on the vehicle 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.600 because oh and they had me sign a form trying 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.600 to remember what it's called burla. It's called where they 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.480 can just rip the entire car apart. So I signed that. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.480 So they're looking for something, okay, Because we were just 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.720 thinking about you know, we found an article in the 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.480 Daily Mail and we wanted to ask you about that too, Okay, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.640 that mentioned that the ex wife or that Jared had 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.800 said the ex wife was spying on him at one point. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.000 Mm hmm, John, what did it say? 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.120 So we were just reading all these articles and it 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.200 mentioned that like right as they were still living together 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.880 having separated, that she had placed surveillance cameras in the 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.760 kids rooms and may have placed a surveillance device on 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.200 his vehicle at that time. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:20.120 Do you know what it was? 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.599 Was it like a dash camera just an audio recorder 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.159 or was it like a full on she could travel? 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.159 Yeah, so what he found in his vehicle, it looked 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.200 like a USB like some drive but it was actually 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.440 a voice recorder, so a voice activated recorder. So he 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.600 found that in his car, and Jared told me if 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.080 he knew that she put it there because no one 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.280 else had access to his vehicle, and his attorney was like, well, 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.040 she probably wanted to hear, like all the conversations because 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.480 he went and talk this attorney in the house where 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.520 she was, so that she placed a voice activated recorder 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:53.239 in his vehicle. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:54.560 Snaky, sneaky. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:55.440 Yeah. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.360 And then as far as the kids' bedrooms, so they 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.119 had baby monitors in plaines, right, I'd always had those 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.919 when the divorce is going on. Jared told me if 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:10.200 he found monitors underneath their bed again, placed by Shanna, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.240 probably to listen into his conversations with the children. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:14.800 Oh my goodness. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.320 Okay, So as far as that it was just. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.120 An audio recorder in his vehicle in the bedroom, but 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.039 not like an actual GPS tracking device, or she could 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:23.719 have seen where. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.880 He was driving, right, not that I'm aware of. He 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.640 didn't tell me that part, right. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.479 But it's it's a very small leap to make that 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.119 if somebody could do that, the GPS tracker or something 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.599 on an air tag or something is close by and 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.120 is it possible that whoever did this put a tracker 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.719 on his car when he was up the beard a pig. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.520 That was kind of what I just one of the 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.120 things that I was looking at, and then this Daily 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.919 Mail article came to light and I was like, oh wow, 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.880 that's kind of in line with what we were kind 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:59.040 of thinking. Maybe, you know, possibly the other thing was 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.960 would Jared had so you know, there's software that you 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.039 can have on your phones that alert you when an 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.080 air tag is nearby, and they do that basically to 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.880 protect women who are being stalked. Okay, did Jared have 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:11.560 an iPhone? 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.159 He did, and he had an AirTag? 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.640 Actually he did, Okay, and he had an air tag. Okay, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.120 she didn't have access to that, did she. No, it's 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.200 I mean obviously not because they were divorced many many 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.040 years ago. Yeah, no, she went and air tags weren't 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.320 even around. Okay, all right, good. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.520 I don't know your relationship with the detective. I don't 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.960 know how well it is or you don't have to 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.320 call him up whenever you talk to him and say, hey, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.520 when do these people ask me if you guys did 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.720 a Google geo fence? And what it does is it 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.440 tracks all the phones in a geo geo fank you 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.600 drawing of fen And the reason I'm asking that is 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:56.039 so we've seen the three security camera videos of the truck. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.599 The two were driving by the police station and then 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.480 a block away, but it appeared there's a fourth security. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.800 Camera footage video that we haven't seen. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.720 We've just seen a screenshot and it looks like it's 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.000 earlier in the day. And we write an article where 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.160 it says Jacksonville police believed that this vehicle was there 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:15.000 between five thirty and eight thirty in Jacksonville. And I'm wondering, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.280 if there's a person driving around Jacksonville for three hours, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.040 they're probably gonna have their cell phone on them. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.320 Yeah, I know they did geo fencing. I don't know 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.000 if that's different than Google geo fencing. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.440 Exactly exactly, it's exactly what it is. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.480 Okay, So, yeah, they have done that. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.320 If you have the tracker on the car, you would 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.440 have to have a cell phone right in order to 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:34.960 see where the vehicle's travel is. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.000 Yeah unless, yeah, no, you would for sure you would 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:39.960 have to have a cell phone. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.800 Now, could they have the cell phone. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.000 Turned on but not the just. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.360 No, I mean they'd have to be using data, right. 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:54.840 I wonder if this person in the truck got on 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.960 to an open Wi Fi in advance of the killing, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.440 And I wonder if the cops have thought about that. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.600 And I wonder if they have queried to get the 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:11.840 Mac addresses from the neighbors surrounding neighborhood. Wifis I don't 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.200 think the police are going to do that. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.600 I don't think that at all. I mean, I think 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.280 this is a low fly. Hit tire in the road, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:24.200 stop him, he gets out, walks up, pow pow pow close. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:30.920 But how luck? Okay, I think that's him. Your hypothesis 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.840 here is that it's possible that the person was camped 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.120 outside of Shana's house saw him drop off. The kids 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.840 took off knowing that he was right behind right yep, 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:48.080 got positioned and just waited for the car that they 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.559 think is Jared's to appear. It's not a dumb theory. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.240 I'm just that's as low fly as you get. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.040 Yeah, No, you're right, No cell phones, no trackers, no nothing, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.720 just there he is right, Let's go down there. He'll 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.000 be down here in a few minutes. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:11.920 That's entirely possible. Entirely possible. They didn't release like the 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.000 exact location of those security cameras, so we had to 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.520 find it, and we found it pretty easily. But I 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.000 mean when when it popped up that it was pretty 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.640 much the way to get back to her house pretty much, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.640 and it's two blocks maybe that police station. My mouth 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.160 like hit the floor. My job was just like what. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.559 Yeah, that's what I'm getting at, Dana. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.120 They're so calculated, they know to turn off their phones, 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.680 and why would they do such a stupid mistake of 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.160 acting the committee to crime and then drive that vehicle 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.000 right back towards the house. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:50.400 That's just the this is targeted. Okay, Well that was 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.920 all the questions we had. I just we really wanted 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.600 to know where they went and ate and stuff. Do 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:55.640 you know what time it was? 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.160 I wrote this down and talk of it once so 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.800 I wouldn't preget because I went through like our doorball camera, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.280 like when he left the house, and then the text 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:09.199 that he sent me. Okay, so Jared actually left our 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:15.720 house at five three pm and then at six forty 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.959 seven pm I texted Jared asking how date night was going, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.840 and he said he just got off a work call 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.760 that he had to join, and then said that Abby, 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.280 my stepdaughter, wanted to text me, so she and I 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.280 were texting back and forth, and she told me that 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.520 they were eating at the Bearded Pigs. At six forty seven, 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.319 they were already at the Bearded Pig eating, and then 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.600 I'm not sure what the timeline was of how long 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.559 I stayed there before going to Wendy's. But then at 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.160 seven forty seven pm, I briefly talked to him on 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.160 the phone and he had just dropped them off their 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:44.800 mom's house. 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.920 That's good to know, all right, we got the timeline, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.960 So five point fifty three he left, yep, six forty 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.720 seven they were definitely eating at the Bearded Pig. Yeah, 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.440 And seven forty seven is the phone call that he 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:56.800 made to you while you were on the phone with 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.439 the brother. Okay, correct, Because I'm just kind of wondering, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.680 like when somebody would have been able to place a 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.640 trucker on the car if that's what happened, and the 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.360 perfect opportunity would have been, well, they were eating, yeah, 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.640 but that person would have to know they were eating 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.120 at the beer to a pig, And I'm like, well, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.880 you know, it's it's entirely possible that the kids were 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.480 texting mom, Hey, we're getting dinner at the beer to 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:19.959 pig and. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.800 Then so they didn't have phones. My stepdaughter was texting 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.719 me from her dad's from Jared's song. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.120 Okay, So something just came to mind. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.960 When Jared would have dropped the kids off after Wendy's. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.880 It doesn't seem like it was one of those things 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.400 where he'd get out of the car and walk them 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.240 to the door. No, no, drove up to the driveway, 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:38.960 they would have gone out. He would have waited till 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.760 they went inside the door, and he would have drove away. Correct. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.800 So, yeah, burla, she mentioned Burla. What is that? 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:46.880 Oh? 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.679 So the burla is you know how your car. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.000 Has a little computer boxing if the cracks everything when 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.199 you're pressing the pedals, how fast you're going. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.760 Yeah, that's what it is. Oh, it's like a black box. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.559 Yes, discover vehicle a vehicle to hold a vast amount 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.080 of data that can be used to uncover critical information 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.760 during the investigation and help determine what happened, where it occurred, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.160 and mark. So that usually is hidden under the carpet, 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.199 under the driver or passenger seat. That every time we 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.440 get a new piece of information, like the USB thumb 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.319 driving the car record. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.080 I'm like, that's from a TV show. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.160 Right, Yeah, there's that's in a lot of TV shows. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.120 So let's go look at the bearded pig. Where's the 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:27.800 bearded pig at? 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.800 So there's one in Jacksonville. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.320 When we find it, she said Jack's Beach. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.000 I think she means Jacksonville. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:41.240 Yeah, well there's Third Street South the bearded pig. This 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.320 one is on Third Street South, and in relation to 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:47.760 the route, it's. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.880 Pretty Yeah, that's the one he would have gone to, right. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.960 I believe that's possible. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.160 Yeah, when Jesus is also on Third Street like two 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.160 blocks up, all. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.160 Right, Yeah, so that's got to be it. So I 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.720 mean that could mean a couple things. That could be 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:05.080 a signal to them, or is it to set her 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.079 up the ex wife? 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:07.440 Right? 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.520 Right, That's what I was getting at. Because once you 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.160 get you're on Shutter. Once you get to that fifteenth Street, 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.600 you either go left of the house or you go right, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.600 and you're going back to Ocean Boulevard. Game. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.280 We don't know when it comes to the t on 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.400 fifteenth whether it goes left or right. But it just 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.480 kind of struck me on that, like, whoever did this 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:31.079 was very, very calculated. Yeah, I just committed a murder. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.720 I'm gonna drive right back to if it is the 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.280 ex wife or somebody related to that, you're gonna drive 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.319 right back to the house. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:43.120 I don't think so it's just weird or is it narcissism? 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.959 Like I got away with the perfect crime, right, and 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.480 you catch me, right, and we've dealt with that before, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:49.840 you know. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.320 I mean I shot caps with the BB gun and 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.959 nothing never happened to me, right, and I have the 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.040 perfect alibi my wife, who's gonna say I was in 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.080 the house the whole time? 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:03.360 Right? Or was it a like a hired person? And 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.199 the ex wife can't leave the house because she's got 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.160 the kids, now, okay, so all she does is go 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.880 outside her house if you look at the map and 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.760 stand on the corner there, because it's culed a sack 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.040 and her house is at the end of that cul 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.200 de sack and then it's like a street. All she 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.520 has to do is stand there and oh, there's the truck. Okay, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:23.240 everything's good. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.560 Truck comes to the stop that the te flashes, the light, 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.280 turns off, and drives away. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.280 Right, something like that. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.640 Yeah, something like that. Well, I think you and I 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.160 both agree. She didn't commit the aptual app she. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:36.360 Made me be aware of it. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.120 He didn't do it herself. Somebody else did it. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:45.240 Either she or if somebody adjacent is the mastermind, like 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.440 hired somebody like this is a hired What did. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.520 She tell the guy at the tattoo parlor to PIERCERR, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.520 I wish he'd just shut up. Somebody would just make 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:53.200 them shut up. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.680 Yeah, get somebody to shut him up. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.080 Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:00.520 a moment. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.840 So I got a text message from Christian Brdigan yesterday 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.440 and she asked me if you and I had the 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.440 ability to run DMV records and I said no, we don't. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.520 And she said, do you have a PI that can 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.040 run records? And I said, well, we do have a PI, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.520 but he's he's it's for a different case. But let 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.040 me find out if we can use him. You know, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.240 I don't see why we wouldn't be able to. She said, okay, great, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.960 it's for the state of Washington. And I said, okay, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.080 let me find out and I'll get back to you. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.920 Right Wait, wait, wait, Jared, Jared's incident happened in Florida. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.040 She wants us to look up DMB in the state 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.800 of Washington, on the other side of the United States. Right, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.600 is it related to I. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.960 Would imagine I can't imagine that she would reach out 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:07.240 to me for something unrelated to Jared Wow. So I 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.800 am going to ask Mike Toth if he can run 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:17.280 DMB records in Washington. I have the feeling that he's 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.960 going to tell me if we have like a plate 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.560 he could he might be able to run it. I 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.320 don't think he's going to be able to query like 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.760 straight from D and B, but I don't I didn't 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.640 ask her for specifics because I didn't want her to 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.640 feel like she had to tip her hand with me. 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.320 But I just felt like, I'm gonna let her give 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.560 me the information if she wants, and if she doesn't 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.840 want to, I'm not going to push the issue. But 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.520 now that I know we can use Mike Toth, who 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.280 I think is great. And then we also have Chris 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.400 Salgado in Tampa and we have a great relationship with him, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.400 and he's in Florida. Now I haven't reached out to him, Okay, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.360 but this is right up Chris's ali. You know what 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.280 I mean. This this case is right up Chris's alley. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.600 And since he's in Florida, he probably knows about it absolutely. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.359 What I'm going to do is I'm going to email 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.960 Chris and ask if he's interested, and then if he's interested, 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:12.280 we can talk about the case. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.960 Chris, you're on the line, right, Hi, John, Hi Deanna. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.240 Yeah, So we reached out to you and we wanted 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.080 to see what you've been up to since we saw 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.480 you what was it six seven months ago in May 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:25.240 and crime Con. 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.919 Since then that crime Con, a lot of stuff has 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.680 picked up for me at the PI business here and 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.600 it's been great. So I'm the CEO of All Points Investigations, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.120 as you folks said, based out of Tampa, Florida. Here 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:42.400 we do both cyber and physical investigations across the globe 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:47.000 for a variety of issues for corporations, individuals, law firms, 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.720 and this kind of scope that we have for types 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.560 of investigations really runs the gamut. We do counterfeit investigations, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:18:00.919 threat management, cults, cult investigations obviously a criminal investigations, but 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.959 from the civil side, right because I'm a private best guer, 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.920 I'm not a law enforcement member, lots of different stuff. 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.480 So, Chris, does your company have the ability to search 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:10.280 a license. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:10.520 Plate like that? 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.560 Yeah, yeah, definitely. We search plates all over the states. 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.439 We again, folks, I seated in Florida, but as you know, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:22.040 but we uprate globally. Yeah, we can definitely run different plates. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.920 We can run bin numbers, we can even run partial plates. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.280 So, Chris, were you to do your work on your end, 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.560 what would you need Deanna and I to give you, 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.040 like a name and a date of birth or what 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.080 kind of information do you need. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:36.320 To do you? 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.560 Yeah, whatever information that you have uncovered so far, and 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:45.240 we're talking mostly about like names, addresses, dates of birth, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.040 stuff like that, that could be very helpful with trying 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:53.119 to lift as much information as possible on these movements, 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.439 specifically with the wife and any other person. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.920 All right, we'll send you some stuff, Chris, and then 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.520 once you do you report, you can email it to 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.119 us and then we can have a phone call and 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:03.919 go over everything. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:04.159 That. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.040 Okay, Yeah, that sounds great. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.040 Thank you both for letting me help out on this 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:08.960 as much as I can. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:17.240 There's a lot of press on Jared. There's a lot 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.440