1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. 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We remember about a week 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 5: ago we had Brian Windhorse say on ESPN Radio that, 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 5: you know, the idea of Lebron not retiring with the 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 5: Lakers is now more on the table than ever. He 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 5: didn't say out right it was gonna happen, but he said, 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 5: you know, just don't slam. 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: The door on anymore. 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 5: A couple of days ago, Yo Van Buha, friend of 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 5: the show Lake, longtime Lakers insider, said that the relationship 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 5: between the two sides is kind of salty at the moment, 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 5: a little frosty. Two sides have not exactly seemed batiko 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 5: at the moment. 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 3: Well. 27 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: Today ESPN dot Com, Ramona Shelburn and Brian Winhurst again 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 5: put out a lengthy piece discussing what's going on with Lebron, 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 5: James and the Lakers brass and in summary, what they 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 5: have determined is that Lebron is not happy that the 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: team has really pivoted in a strong way towards Luka 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: Doncic and his timeline and put Lebron's timeline on the 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 5: back burner. In fact, according to Shelburn and Windhorst, one 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 5: of the things that Lebron is really upset about is 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 5: that the Lakers did not offer him a contract extension 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 5: prior to him opting into that fifty two million dollars 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: for next season. 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: So it wasn't right. He didn't have a choice to say, 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: now I'm not gonna do that. Let me decide what 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do. No, they said no, no, No, you're good. 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: You gotta think are you coming in okay? 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: In fact, according to Shauburn and Winhorse, here's how they 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 5: frame it in the story. If Lebron wanted the kind 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 5: of Hollywood ending that only the Lakers can give legends 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 5: of the game. The release date has been set Spring 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: And Kelvin, I'm just gonna say this, the Lakers are 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: spot on. 49 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: They are spot on. This is not. 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: You can't live in the past when it comes to sports. 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: You know, you fall in love with people. Or the 52 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: Lakers did it with Kobe mistake, you could say whatever 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: you the last six five six years with a mistake, 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: too much money, nobody wanted to play with you remember 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: what it was. They couldn't make the playoff. It was 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 4: not good because they wanted to take care of Kobe 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 4: and be loyal and all that kind of stuff, and 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: you gotta be careful with that. In this case, the 59 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: Lakers have done everything. Lebron's going to be forty one. Like, seriously, 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: you got a twenty five year old star that you 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: traded for, right, and that's who you have to center 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 4: around the team. 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: The team was just sold. If you're the Dodgers, you're 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: living in the past. 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: I mean the Lakers, you're half right, right, half right, 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: because the Dodgers are moved across the street. You know what, 67 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 4: I'm saying, so, I don't see this as being disrespectful 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: or not. You know, when he was there, they paid him, 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: they gave him the extension before you know, they've done 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: everything he wanted, more plays, and when they got him 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: a D, traded all the young players right to go 72 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: get a D for him. That worked out. They want 73 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: a championship, they get Luca for him. Okay, wow, you 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: know what I mean. But you can't string this along 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: an extension. No, it could be forty one. This is 76 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: the right move by the Lakers. 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: This is gonna be the first time Lebron is gonna 78 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: have to deal with something different. And that is the 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: first time not being courted, the forced time I'm not 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: being wanted, the first time that he is in a 81 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: position where he's second fiddle. And since he's probably what 82 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: thirteen years old, he's probably been that guy. 83 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: Now. 84 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: His disposition, especially early on, was to be more of 85 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: a collaborative guy, bring the team on high fives with everybody. 86 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: So but he always knew subconsciously it all revolved around him. 87 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: And this is the first time Robin happens. You know, 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: and people do that in life things when it ain't 89 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: all about you if you're if you're an only child 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you got a sibling. What 91 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: you mean, I don't get this? And what do you 92 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: mean they gotta share? I gotta do this, And I 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: think that's what he's going through. You mentioned a couple 94 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: of good things. New ownership. I'm gonna start there. New ownership, 95 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: mind you, Rob, Not a new ownership that's new to this. 96 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: New ownership that knows what they're doing. New ownership that 97 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: has continually had the Dodgers being successful, whether they're competing 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: for obviously winning their division and competing for World series, 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: winning World Series. 100 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: So the ownership is a little bit different. 101 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: This ain't just the bus family, who I've said a 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: million times who to fault has been overly loyal to 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: people who are in business with them back in the 104 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: early eighties. 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm because mom and pop shop. They have that thing. 106 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: If you've been with us, you know you've been through 107 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the ups and downs with us, We become loyalty. 108 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: We ride with you. 109 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: This ain't that this new ownership, while respecting Lebron, while 110 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: appreciating Lebron, are trying to also move forward. And the 111 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: day that the inc side dried up on that trade 112 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: for Luca Doncentz, the Lebron era was over. Now you 113 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: can be a part of the Luca era. You can 114 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: be participatory. We would love to have you on this ride. 115 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: But this is now the Luca Era without a doubt, 116 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: And I would challenge Lebron. That makes to see if 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: this cannot go out bad. You don't have to go 118 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: out bad because they didn't offew extension. You don't have 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: to go out bad because the team is now about Luca. 120 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: You don't have him not calling up and not texting 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: DeAndre aid dere eight. 122 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: And I mean that is a I'm gonna say, you 123 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: got to throw him a party, y'all. Welcome to Wow, 124 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: Welcome to the team. 125 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: Bro. 126 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: That's it. 127 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: So this is gonna be something Lebron is gonna have 128 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: to deal with for the first time where yo, you 129 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: are not your second fiddle, and it's it's uncommon territory 130 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: for him. But again, when you look at the fact 131 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: that he's not a lifer, fairly or unfairly wrong or 132 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: right them giving Kobe that deal, we know what Kobe 133 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: meant to the city, We know what he meant to 134 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: this franchise. So right, I'm saying you shouldn't from a 135 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: practical business. 136 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: Standpoint, I understand that, but if you look at the results, 137 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: they weren't good. 138 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Right, And that's what I'm saying. From a practical business standpoint, 139 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: you would say it's trying to move on. But the 140 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: Lakers ownership said we're gonna do right by him. He'd 141 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: been here for us and that was their prerogative. This 142 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: isn't that where Lebron hasn't been a lifer. So you 143 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: mentioned with clutch sports. They brought in a gang of 144 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: clutch sports guys over the years, they brought in ad 145 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: they into his credit. Hey, he and a d brought 146 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: them a championship, So it's been a mutual thing. He 147 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: brought them some relevancy and some you know, they were 148 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 1: competitive making. They brought him everything he wanted, the guys 149 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: he wanted, the coaches he wanted, and they. 150 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: Even brought his son in. 151 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: So at a certain point, you can add, the Lakers 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: can actually look at Lebron and ask, what more do 153 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: you want from me? 154 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: Because they have given him every week, got your song? 155 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: Square? 156 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Do you want from me? 157 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: That's what they can ask him. 158 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: So to me, this is gonna be interesting when Lebron 159 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: handles for the first time not being the princess at 160 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: the ball and having to, you know, be second fiddle 161 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: and not being our first and top priority with every 162 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: single move or decision that we make. And it's going 163 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how he chooses to handle 164 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: this as he winds it down. Because you look what 165 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: you you said the same thing. Look I wrote it down. 166 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: He's about to be forty one, and if I extend 167 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: you another two year, what are you forty three? 168 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, how when does it stop? 169 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: And Father Time is undefeated. 170 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: You held him off the longest we've ever seen at 171 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: this level, and Tom Brady held him off or give 172 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: you guys credit for that, but he's still undefeated. 173 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 174 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 2: the nation. 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You can 184 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 6: only name a show with that type of talent on it. 185 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 6: Up on Game We're going to be sharing our real 186 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 6: life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on 187 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 6: Game with me lebar Arrington, TJ. Huschman Zada and Plexico 188 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 6: Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 189 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 6: get your podcast from. 190 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: I'm waiving the white flag on Cooper Flag. After that 191 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: debacle last night, talk about the worst debut for this guy? 192 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: Was hyped up five for twenty one and you were 193 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: trying to bump the Bronni. Oh we wanted you were 194 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: Bronnie your second year one for six three He only 195 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 4: had eight points. 196 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: You want to talk about a terrible debut? 197 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: Am I saying he can't play and he's gonna be 198 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: a bus no. But you couldn't have a worst debut. 199 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: And he had that nice dunk early on in the game. 200 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: I watched the game this morning on NBA TV. 201 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: It was awful. People paid top dollar to watch that. 202 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: Was he nervous? What with the and you know what. 203 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 4: The worst part about it is Rob g Kelvin, he 204 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: ain't even playing against. 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: God's gonna be in the league. 206 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: These are guys who just got the jersey as a 207 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: silveneir and they got a large diar coca and a 208 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: hot dog for participating. 209 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: They're not gonna be in the league. 210 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: Seventy five percent of those guys, eighty percent of those guys. 211 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: And he couldn't get his shot off. He couldn't. 212 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: They made him uncomfortable, and then they're gonna harp on 213 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: to play at the end of the game. 214 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: That's what tells you about Cooper Flag. 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: You know, the defensive play, and then he gave the 216 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: assist for the game winning basket, five for twenty one. 217 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: I needed something better than that. I didn't need forty points. 218 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: I needed a better debut than that from this guy 219 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: that they wanted to put in the same sentence as 220 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: Larry Bird. He wasn't even Christian Ladner last night. Let 221 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: Loane Larry Bird. I dare anybody who's an NBA fan 222 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: who calls up this radio show and tells me they 223 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: saw something. 224 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Cooper Flag's gonna be something with the death. 225 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: You didn't see it last night. 226 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: I know he's eighteen, he played major college basketball. Everybody's 227 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: been singing his praises oh five for twenty one. If 228 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: you take away to dunk, that means he made four baskets. Really, 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: it's never been easy to score in the NBA ever. 230 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: Calvin could score a couple of buckets. I can get 231 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: you six and three. You could do that six, You 232 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: could do what. 233 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: Lebron did one for six from the three point line 234 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: and he won. 235 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: Bah Balu, mom l you already know, Alex, I'm waving 236 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: a white flag on that debut. 237 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: And all the bally who made about it, it was 238 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: as disappointing and milk toase and non dramatic as I've 239 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: seen anything it was. 240 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: It just didn't move me. 241 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Not being so dramatic, which is thought was gonna be 242 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Game seven of the NBA Finals. Stop it an eighteen 243 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: year old going up against what's browny now nineteen and 244 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: a half. Both of them one never played any kind 245 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: of NBA game, the other one everybody ever said shouldn't 246 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: even be in the NBA. And you thought you were 247 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: looking at nineteen eighty six Celtics Lakers. Stop, I'm not 248 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: dealing with you right now. 249 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: Now. Let me tell you what it is. 250 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: I put no stock if you'd had twenty two points 251 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: or two points in a especially your first Summer League game. 252 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: You're full of it. You like the NBA. You know why, 253 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: because that he put up a forty piece. Don't tell me. 254 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: People wouldn't have been random if. 255 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: He had forty points last night? What would what would 256 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: have been? Sports Center? 257 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 258 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, right against bomb, right against what? Right? Right? 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: Guess what? 260 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: This is called the od couple Rod Parker and Kevin Washington, 261 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: not ESPN. Now let me get back to what I 262 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: was saying. I put no stock. 263 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: You know why. 264 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: Sometime I'm gonna go to somebody who's independent, who's not 265 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: on the payroll. 266 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: I know you used to work there, but because. 267 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: First of all, if I if I'm on the payroll, y'all, 268 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: I need some more checks because I got some bills 269 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: that needs to be paying. Now, no stock in this 270 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: because we've seen guys come out and tear it up. 271 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: Answer your point, Oh my gosh, this person is about 272 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: to be the best ever. And let me railed you 273 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: off a couple of things. You know who looked amazing. 274 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Kalcubs looked like he was gonna be a perennial All 275 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Star if he went off the Summer League his first 276 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: go round, Markel Foltz. That's why he's the number one pick. 277 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: He looked amazing. Ben Simmons who Cooper Flag looked like? 278 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: To me, Ben. 279 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: Simmons is the new Lebron if you went off the 280 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: summer league, we ain't seen two or the three since 281 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: you know who looked horrible. Steph Curry looked lost out there. Well, 282 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I think he did all right. Derek Rose looked lost 283 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: out there. I think he did all right. So don'd 284 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: put too much stock either way in this. So Cooper 285 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: Flagg was out there, he was five or twenty one 286 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: miss some shots. Now here's what I do give him 287 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: credit for. I give him an E for effort. And 288 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: that that's what I say. That is because the same 289 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: thing I said yesterday, the one thing I can can 290 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: I can say I know going into his NBA career, 291 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: I can count on he is athletic. You saw the 292 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: one Donkey got filed on the miss. I mean, my gosh, 293 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: he tried to jump for the free throw line on somebody. 294 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: So I knew the elite athleticism was there. And also 295 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: I know he cares. He's gonna play hard from zero 296 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: minutes to forty eight minutes. He's gonna give max effort 297 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: on both sides. So I love to see that from him, 298 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: but I don't put too much stock in it. Bronni 299 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: didn't look that great. Nobody really looked that great and 300 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: had the BRONI put up eighteen on all right, put 301 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: up eighteen against guys who aren't gonna be up there 302 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: in the league, So I don't put too much. 303 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: Now, there are some takeaways for Cooper. Flag number one. 304 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: Cooper, that handle ain't what you think that hand he 305 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: thought he had it bringing the ball up, looking nice 306 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: with the handle with Jason Kidd said he wants to 307 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: play a little point guard, not in this NBA. He's 308 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do with the handle. Also, 309 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: gotta get to a second move. He's used to being bigger, taller, stronger, 310 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: fast than most guys because most of the guys he 311 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: played against are gonna get jobs and insurance this next 312 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: you know fall and so he has this little turnaround move. 313 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: You gotta get a better move. You gotta get some 314 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: second move, some counter moves, which eventually he'll get. So 315 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine as a player, but again, 316 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: his day, but as you put it, I didn't put 317 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: too much stock out. 318 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: It was the day, but it wasn't a debut. 319 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: But I do only thing I said, I love his 320 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: max effort period. I was telling Rob G you were 321 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: on vacation, that that's the thing I know I can 322 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: count for him is a letticism and that he's gonna 323 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: play hard and care every single play. And I love 324 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: seeing that from him. But yeah, he'll he'll be fine. 325 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: He'll absolutely be fine. I'm sure he wanted to put 326 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: up twenty five and shoot seventy percent of you'll look 327 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: good because everybody's watching, but that's not always the case. 328 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: How do you bounce back? Also, you acting like this 329 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: magic first bird. 330 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's the way that they made 331 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: it is a sellout crowd. They're selling tickets, scalping for 332 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: two thousand dollars, all this stuff. Oh my god, I 333 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: gotta see Cooper Flag and Brodny. 334 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: It was it was. It was a wet blanket. It was. 335 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: It was a wet blanket. There was nothing there, nothing 336 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: to see. You would have been about to seeing Mike 337 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: Tyson and that thing that he had. 338 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: On because I have had to see his cheeks and 339 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: I ain't sign up for that. Mike Tyson used to 340 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: punch people in the cheeks. Now, I don't want to 341 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: see yo chi. 342 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta admit that was what? What was that? Five? 343 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: Five for twenty one? Not let me tell you what 344 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: he said. Five for twenty one, cole, me tell you 345 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: what he said. That's a really, really bad night for anybody. 346 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: And one of the baskets is a dunk. So four 347 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: for twenty. 348 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Let me tell you what that man did. 349 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: Two for seventeen outside the restricted area for seventeen. 350 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm letting it fly like they did. And then well 351 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: what along came? Poly Let it rain, Let it raight. 352 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't give a dang. He emptied the clip. 353 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: The Clips dropped the new album today. He was actingly 354 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: he was the third member of the Clips. He emptied 355 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: the Clips. But uh yeah, he'll be fine. I absolutely 356 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: love his aggression that. I love he taking it to her. 357 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: He tried to dunk. 358 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I get it. Draw the script. 359 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: If I'm the NBA, Yeah, my number one pick, he's 360 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna ball out, have four alley. 361 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: Us hit a game winning three. You know you want 362 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: to draw that up. But I'm just saying and you 363 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: know this. 364 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: They they'll down plays off night, but if he had 365 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: a big night, they would not complete it, right, they 366 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: would not downplay it and go, oh, it's only a 367 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: summer league game against guys who are not gonna be 368 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: in the league NBA. 369 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: Oh they're good against good team exactly. 370 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 4: And then they were like, oh and Rady got that 371 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: because people watch games a different way now. 372 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: That they and then they were good Team seven eighteen 373 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: and then a press release, Look at our ratings. I 374 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: thought you didn't care about ratings. Listen, I keep trying 375 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: to tell you this. 376 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Okay, as a member and the founding member of the 377 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: CEO of MLB BRO, you supposed to know MLB. 378 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: Brocause you need to know. Well, you act like you 379 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: don't know. You know, marketing. I get it's going bad, 380 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 3: it didn't happen. If it's going good, it's the greatest 381 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: thing ever. Okay, here we go, Bronnie James Cooper flag. 382 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: I just I just like once again, I was down 383 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: on the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul was I not. 384 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: I told you it was gonna be a terrible and 385 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: I told you a lot of time. You know what 386 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: playing I took what Mike Tyson. 387 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: He didn't tell us it was died before that after 388 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: the fighters like oh yeah, by the way, I had 389 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: blood clots and all that almost died. 390 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: Please can we have known that? Rob g I was 391 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: on Cousin sALS podcast cast the other day and he 392 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: was really like serious, He's like, you know how mad 393 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: I am about what? Because he because he actually bet 394 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: money on Tyson. He told me, he said, some people 395 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: remember that, a lot of people remember that. A lot 396 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 4: of people one thing to be like, oh I remember 397 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: God kept saying, oh t is gonna knock him out. 398 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. 399 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: I did you watch his workout? You remember that on 400 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: the on social media? He looks great. He did look 401 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 4: good and ring okay. And all I'm gonna say is 402 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: am I here saying Cooper Flag can't play or it's 403 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: gonna be a no. 404 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that was a debacle. It was alterat. 405 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: It was terrible. 406 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: If you have spent money to go see that kid 407 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: wet his pants and the playing an NBA game shoot 408 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: five for twenty like you probably would couldn't. 409 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: Find another five for twenty one day. 410 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: Would you admit that? I would say, look at some 411 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: of these games. You probably could. You watched It is 412 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: probably gonna be really good. He had a horrible first game, 413 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: rob what'd you think? 414 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 5: I took it hard? You guys know this. I was 415 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 5: ready for the White Revolution. 416 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: Same. I'm not gonna lie anticipated Yes, it's so bad. 417 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: I've been doing this show almost a year. That man 418 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: ain't called me about nothing, rob G. 419 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: I felt like he was nineteen sixty two all over again. 420 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: That man called me. He told me me and you 421 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 3: can't vote no more. And I've never even he never 422 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: called me off script. That man costs yo. 423 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: It's so real. Rob G thought he was gonna take 424 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: back our vote. That's how far back he was about 425 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: to take this thing. Robb G was. 426 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 3: We were gonna get on there. We were gonna get over. 427 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Next time we going to all to the We're gonna 428 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: go on the back of the he had to get 429 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: on the back of the bus. 430 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: I got the plane. Robb G was wilding yesterday. 431 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 5: I was gonna turn in my card to the cookouts. 432 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: I'm going to barbecues only from now on. Wow, that's 433 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 5: how I was feeling. It was gonna say, Robgie, where 434 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 5: you at? He said, sprouts? 435 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: I said, why getting Raisins for the potato SIDEBG wallind 436 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: I was ready. 437 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: I was ready for the Cooper flag. Kaitlin Clark's dominating 438 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 5: these two sports right here, and then. 439 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: Man, call your wife man, because see, I see the 440 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: only one who can bring you back. 441 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 442 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 443 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 444 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: listen live. 445 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has the new haircut. 446 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes doing a media tour. Yep, couple new hair 447 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 7: who this Yeah, all we gotta do is say that 448 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 7: Nick Wrong is a co host on the show. 449 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: He'll come on. 450 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 5: I mean Nick Right, he might, but yes, he's been 451 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 5: doing the media rounds, most recently earlier this week, he 452 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 5: popped on with CNBC to discuss a myriad of topics. 453 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 5: One of the things that came up was the idea 454 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 5: of the long rumored eighteen game season that could be 455 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 5: on the horizon in the NFL. One asked about it, 456 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: Mahomes said, quote, if there were a way to get 457 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 5: to eighteen games, and I'm not a big fan of it, 458 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: but if there were a way, I think you got 459 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: to add some bye weeks in there to give more 460 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 5: time for guys' bodies. 461 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Well, this is what I think. 462 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: First of all, ain't no what if if you got 463 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: the NFLPA, who's trying to act like, oh, we got 464 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: so many other things we got going on. First of all, 465 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: NFLPA that hardly ever does right by the players, So 466 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: let's just start. That was me trying to give them 467 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: one They never do right by the players, which means 468 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: players have mostly said they don't want to do this. 469 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen, especially when it comes to big money, 470 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: which is what these owners want. 471 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: So we're gonna get to eighteen games. 472 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: And if you get to eighteen games, Robs, both of you, 473 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: Rob Park and Rob g well you know what eighteen 474 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: turns into twenty. And here's my thought and concern. One 475 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: of the things that's made the NFL great is a scarcity. 476 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Was sixteen weeks for so long? 477 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: Was twelve? 478 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: It used to be twelve, twelve exactly was twelve. Then 479 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: of course they go to sixteen, fourteen, sixteen, so many years, 480 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: and then now we're at seventeen. But that's what makes 481 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: it great. Every game matters. You don't get a lot 482 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: of from a fans standpoint, you're locked in. I only 483 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: get these X amount of games. From a player standpoint, 484 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: every game matters, I'm locked in. 485 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm in. 486 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: What I'm concerned is does eighteen stay at eighteen for two, three, four, 487 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: five years then jump to twenty and at what point, 488 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: for the first time will the NFL be taking a 489 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: hit in something we've never really had to consider, and. 490 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: That is low management. 491 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: Because I started to think, specifically with a guy like 492 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes who's really known nothing but success throughout his career, 493 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: rob what if we get to a point because there's 494 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: eighteen games, there's twenty games where teams ultimately like a 495 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: maybe the Buffalo Bills, maybe Lamar Jackson Ravens, maybe Patrick 496 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: Mahoons and the Chiefs, they're competing for playoffs and championships. 497 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna start to consider, Man, we are 498 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: sitting here at ten and three going into our second 499 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: bye week. I might sit Patrick Mahomes the week prior 500 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: to the buye, then have to buy and then sit 501 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: him another week, So that's three weeks that he's healthy, 502 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: he's fresh, because what is it Ultimately the Chiefs will 503 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: be playing for playoff deep playoff runs in Super Bowls, 504 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: and this is the first time I'm thinking hold on 505 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. 506 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: I know all money is good money and blah blah 507 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. 508 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: But that's what's made you great is we don't get 509 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: to see you all the time and don't come to 510 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: me players or league. If you're talking about we care 511 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: about player safety, stop it because adding. 512 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: All these games only makes it long and elongate. 513 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: It's the season and more opportunities for a guy gets 514 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: to get hurt, and I think is the first time 515 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: you might have to start considering will NFL players start 516 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: to load and load management. 517 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about last game of the season. I 518 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: sit down, we already got the division seld up. 519 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about week eight, week twelve, because I'm starting 520 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: to think long term. I got to think for eighteen games, 521 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: we're up twenty games, and I think that is something 522 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: that for the first time we might have to consider 523 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: because they're clearly not thinking about players safety. That ain't 524 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: even an issue that no one cares about that players 525 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: or the owners at this point. 526 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 4: Here's my issue is that players, especially Patrick Mahome, shouldn't 527 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: be speaking on this. This should come from leadership from 528 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: the Players Association, one voice, one voice, not putting this 529 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: out about he I'm not a fan of it, but 530 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: let me tell you how it work. Let me, you 531 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: gotta have this, you gotta do this that that that 532 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 4: gives a credence. 533 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: You can't tell me that owners and people are going on. 534 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: Did you hear Patrick? 535 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 4: Oh? Okay, so he's not gonna come out if you 536 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: have the best of the best coming out against it, 537 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 4: saying no, but a singular voice the union and we've 538 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: talked about this. 539 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 3: You beat me where I was about to bring up again. Yeah, 540 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: it's very simple. 541 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: No, like one voice from the union and and the 542 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: way that they change all of this and stop. I 543 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 4: do not understand. I wish I would have two minutes 544 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 4: to go in and talk to the Advisory Board of 545 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: the Players Association. I would say, you guys want to 546 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: do right by the players. Forget about that stupid deal 547 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: you guys signed so you can smoke weed and practice less. 548 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: That's what they' that's what they hang the right smoke 549 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: weed and practice less. I said. I would go into 550 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: the owners. 551 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: Here's the CBA, the Major League Baseball players have with 552 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: the baseball owners. We want exactly what they have, exactly 553 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: what they have here it is, and if you don't 554 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 4: do it come September, we will not be playing football. 555 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: Okay. Or you do it before the super Bowl when. 556 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 4: Everything's in place, we don't get a new deal or 557 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: situation set up, we will not play the super Bowl. 558 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: How did the baseball players get leverage? They stop the world? Citty, 559 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: they stop the world. But Rob, you and I have 560 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 4: talked about this. Everything you said makes sense. You and 561 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: I both agree. 562 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: We say this at least once every month because something 563 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: comes up where we have to have this conversation. The 564 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: issue is that sounds good, but that four string defensive 565 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: back who's only making it. 566 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: Can't be about it can't be about him. It's got 567 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 4: to be singular about everybody. And this is what you got. 568 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 4: You can't do that is what I'm saying. We have 569 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: to vote. 570 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: And when we all start to vote, no, no, no, 571 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: your check hitting different, no, Josh Allen. 572 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: But here's but here's the difference. I hear you. 573 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 4: The reason the players have solidarity in Major League Baseball 574 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 4: is because the young player you're talking about, you're not 575 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: worried about paying your bills. The union has a ward chess, Calvin, 576 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: how much money do you need for your bills? 577 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: Hold on? How much do you need? Here? 578 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: It is when you get when we finished with this lockout, strike, whatever, 579 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: and they give us our money back, you take that money, 580 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: you put it back in the war chest. The reason 581 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: that the players Union gets beat like a drammer, they 582 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: don't they know that they don't have a war chest. 583 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: They know that people can't miss two paychecks or one paycheck. 584 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: You have no leverage. But you have no leverage if 585 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: you have no war chess your honor. I object. Here's 586 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: why it sounds. 587 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: First of all, again I agree, But here's the thing. A. 588 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: I have way more players in MLB, way more. No, No, 589 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: it's not that much. It's eleven hundred compared to eight hundred. 590 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: I have more players about league. I also don't have 591 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts. No, but so, but. 592 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: I'm hearing you, that's what I'm competing for. 593 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, guys only hear my contract ain't guaranteed. 594 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: So the stuff that you would have you might have 595 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: to sacrifice for them. 596 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: It sounds like Alex I needed Charlie Brown. Woh w. 597 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like. You and I agree. We've 598 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: been agreeing since since we started. But the fact is 599 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, no doubt, I hear you, I hear you. 600 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: This is because they can't commit. It's a commitment and 601 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: the sacrifice to do it. 602 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: You cannot. 603 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: You cannot, Okay, whenever you have membership, union membership and 604 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: you're voting. 605 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 7: To get that's. 606 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: What they hear of, to get paid or not get paid. 607 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: The vote can never be that, okay because people always 608 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 4: go to vote to get paid. So do you you 609 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 4: it can't be about that. No, the money's not an issue. 610 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: Guess what, we got you covered for next season. 611 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: So then you're gonna be relying on the starts to 612 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: jump started. No, no, you're gonna say, hey, we're gonna 613 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna jump everybody. 614 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: Everybody has to put money in, but they get the 615 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: money back and that's the only way you have any 616 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 4: kind of leverage. But but it's it's a shame because 617 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 4: it's not just Major League Baseball. Everybody else, even the 618 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: NHL is a better deal. They have better health care, retirement, 619 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 4: everybody's better. Now, that's that's the thing that we're talking about. 620 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 4: It's not like baseball superior and and nobody else has anything. No, 621 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: all the NBA contracts, NHL contracts guaranteed. They have been 622 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 4: bamboozled and allowed to believe that they shouldn't have guaranteed contracts, 623 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: which they should. Should they be shorter, yes, Should you 624 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: be able to play for two years or to sign 625 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: a three year deal. 626 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: If you're good, you get more money. If not, they 627 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: let you go. That's just like any. 628 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: Other stem because it's a physical demanding sport and the 629 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: eyes don't last as long, and we know that, and 630 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: it absolutely should be that case. They should get guaranteed 631 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: because you know what the NFL likes to do rob 632 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: new deal. This just came in seven years, two hundred 633 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: and eighty million, but. 634 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: Only about eighty of a guaranteed, and they love. 635 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: To toudde all the money we're throwing around these guys. 636 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even want to let you put that out 637 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: there to make it look like you're throwing money around. No, 638 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: put out the number what it is, the real seven 639 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: years abuck twenty, that's what it's not a seven years 640 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: to ten