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Speaker 2: You knew it.

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Speaker 3: Most people say that they when they hear stuff that

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Speaker 1: Of it is like that. But that was one of

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Speaker 4: One day yourself at that time, like when y'all was

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Speaker 4: It's like we're making this for us, We're making this

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Speaker 1: What we're doing. Well, what it was is so you

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Speaker 1: remember do what You're like? Right, Humpty is in Do

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Speaker 1: But we played a bunch of if you go back

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Speaker 1: But we didn't even have the dance till two nights

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Speaker 1: It was my my younger brother. If you watch the video,

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Speaker 1: But at that time, Hughes was written out of room

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Speaker 3: That's great, you got it worked out perfectly.

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Speaker 4: Stand and like having like the moral understanding to like

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Speaker 5: Was yeah, because like you know, you see a group,

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Speaker 1: We were collective and everybody knew coming in. So here's

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Speaker 1: a here's a misconception. People think that us because we

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Speaker 5: First, both of your parents black man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we up all the way.

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Speaker 1: Dealers from Oakland because you know, they did introduce crack

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Speaker 1: They dropped it. They dropped it there, they dropped the Chicago.

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Speaker 5: But keep the ship from getting low. To my my brother,

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Speaker 2: You fucked up.

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Speaker 1: He's like, man, let me just copy the taste.

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Speaker 3: But they probably don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if this is historically accurate, but I

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Speaker 1: The studio. Yeah, how did that ship come about?

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Speaker 5: Because you know, everybody rap about it, everybody talk about it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're doing you know, at this point, freaks

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Speaker 5: Freaks of the Industry. I have West Coast Production.

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Speaker 2: On snoop Head the Holes on the Leash and got

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Speaker 1: But he had his own Okay, he had a different deal.

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Speaker 3: Just you know, I was the first everything I've ever

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Speaker 5: So my guy, some white woman titties out might have

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Speaker 2: The first time you ever seen white woman is off limits.

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Speaker 3: It was just standing up to that.

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Speaker 6: He was like, She's like, bro, you should get into porn.

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Speaker 1: I was like nah. He's like, he's like, I'm telling

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Speaker 2: Just made you stopped sucking on.

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Speaker 1: I know what he was talking about.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: He was saying on the production. So he was saying

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Speaker 2: Look him up.

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Speaker 1: I have no born com you know everybody I'm talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we do our first thing and we got mister markets,

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Speaker 1: Lacey deval Suave, you know what I mean? The Hitters.

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Speaker 6: Light skin Hella wasn't in ours.

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Speaker 1: She was a big at the time. Janet jack No,

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Speaker 6: You've seen it.

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Speaker 2: My brother, my step brother.

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Speaker 5: Literally it was new face to me before a new face.

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Speaker 5: every rap tape from everywhere. He got all the Memphis classes,

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Speaker 2: I liked it. Oh, where is he he from? Mississippi?

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Speaker 1: Where is he?

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Speaker 2: Where is he right now? In Mississippi?

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Speaker 1: That's where you are? Because who I was at D

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Speaker 5: We got to make sure we asked him this. Who

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Speaker 5: taught you how to rap?

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Speaker 1: He taught?

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Speaker 2: Who taught you how to rap?

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Speaker 1: Well, I always tell people there's no money being without

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Speaker 1: Spoony G and you know the new rap language from

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Speaker 1: When rock Kim came out, it was over. That was me, okay,

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: It was like I was imitating rock Kim. It's embarrassing

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Speaker 1: when I hear me caar it back, you know what

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you you.

443
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: Emulate, You emulate what what you what you want to become,

444
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: and then you turn it into your own thing, like

445
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: the same way if you if you hear Tufax early

446
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: early ship, he was emulating Scarface because that was his

447
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: favorite rapper and I funk with him like that. He said,

448
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: like you caught me the scar Face. He couldn't help it.

449
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: That's just who he listened to all the time and

450
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: that was his. But then now you don't associate Popu

451
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: with Carface. He's too pop because he started there and

452
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: then he evolved and then he he found his his his.

453
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: His spotance now being a pioneer in the Bay Area,

454
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: all of the legendary acts that came, you know somewhere

455
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: after y'all, like who did you see before? Like did

456
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: you know any like for example, mac Dra when that

457
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: did you know that that was gonna kick off before

458
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: it kicked off?

459
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: Well, believe it or not, mac Dra came out first

460
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: in ninety two. He had two careers. He came out

461
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: ninety one ninety two like sort of like in our

462
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: in our era, but it was it was.

463
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 6: Straight gangster rap.

464
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: And then when he went to jail for the bank robbery,

465
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: shit got out eight or nine years later, and then

466
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: he reinvented himself and became the mac Dred that he understood.

467
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite office out of the bay.

468
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: My thing got twisters, two sets like sisters.

469
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 6: But to what you're saying, when.

470
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: My when my god brother was in school, he used

471
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: to rap with del a funky Homa when it was

472
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: in eighth grade, so I knew I knew Dale when

473
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: he was in the eighth grade.

474
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: That's still why the most dope rap names ever deal

475
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: the funky holmost safety never heard ass song he got

476
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: called mister Dobbylina.

477
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, that.

478
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: Song get the first.

479
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that song still get like white people love that song.

480
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: They love that song. Man.

481
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 5: Wait yeah, way before like I hid any stages, I

482
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 5: used to go on Friday mornings and do this radio

483
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 5: station and old miss right. I knew the two white dudes.

484
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: They was like, you know, they had kind of like

485
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 5: a like a morning show and they had, like, you know,

486
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 5: some popularity, like they was known for having a good

487
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 5: ass morning show. I used to go on Now on

488
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: Friday and just talk ship, right, bro, that was one

489
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 5: of the songs that they used to call every morning plays.

490
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: Now. I want to ask you this too, bro Out

491
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: said all the music ship.

492
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: Bro, You've got to see a lot of hip hop

493
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 5: history right in front of you. What are some of

494
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 5: your favorite moments that you was just in the background,

495
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 5: just peeping watching it unfold?

496
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, there's a lot. Well. I was just talking

497
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: about this earlier today, not as does and doesn't relate

498
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: to hip hop, but we were doing a show in

499
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: Germany the night the Berlin Wall came down.

500
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: I remember watching that on TV.

501
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: And we're coming from the show, riding through the city

502
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: and ship is on fire. Motherfucker's running around. It just

503
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: looks chaotic, right, He was like, what's going on? It

504
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: was like, you guys want to go see it?

505
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: Did y'all go?

506
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: We went by there, but it's like you want to

507
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: go get a piece of it.

508
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 5: I was like watching that ship on TV as they

509
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 5: was doing.

510
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 6: There, that's cold, Like you can't that.

511
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying that's that's bigger than HIPI

512
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: but I mean that, and then you know, obviously if

513
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: we look back on it now, it's like probably I

514
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: want to say, when was recording to Pocalypse Now the

515
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: first album? Yeah, eighty five percent of it. I was

516
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: sitting right there just watching it. You know what I mean. Like,

517
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: if you go listen to the album, I'm doing a

518
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: lot of background and ad libs. But that's why I'm

519
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: on Brendan's Got a Baby because I just happened to

520
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: be there with Dave Hollister, who was with me that day.

521
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: Hold look, break it back. I didn't come on Dave Hollister.

522
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, what is the Dave Hollister connection to Brenda's Got

523
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: a Baby?

524
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: So he's singing he's the male voice on Brenda's Got

525
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: a Baby. Damn.

526
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: I just put that together.

527
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: So so and this is this is how wait a minute,

528
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: you don't know what. No, so listen, I never even

529
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: thought that put that together.

530
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: And this is one of my favorite things.

531
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: Man.

532
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: Why he came back and he did keep you at him?

533
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: He's on that that that's crazy, but ad Yeah, but

534
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: how it happened, it was. It was wold because we

535
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: just got a breaking news. We used to have We

536
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: used to have the studio. At that time, he was

537
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: working on the Tupac's album, The Row Fusion album and

538
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: the Sons of the p album the Second Is Running

539
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: Round album, right, and gold Money was another group down

540
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: with us. They were signing to Tommy Boy. So we

541
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: had Starlight Studios booked twenty four hours a day for

542
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: like three months. So when my session would end, the

543
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: next question, well, no, it was one studio, so I

544
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: gotta get out so that they can get in, you

545
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

546
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 6: It was one studio like Ohoom's like this.

547
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that particular day I had the earlier session, right,

548
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: and I knew Pap you know, he wrote that song

549
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: because he read an article about what that really happened

550
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: in New York. I think it was a New York

551
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: Times or whatever. And Big d produced it produced. It

552
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: was his DJ, but he's my childhood friend. I put

553
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: three together, so he produced the tracks. I know they

554
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: were doing that song, but it just so happened that

555
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: Dave was in the bay because chat Mester J who

556
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, one of the original members. He had a

557
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: group called Forced One Network on Jay records on Quincy

558
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: Jones record like I Believe, and Dave was the was

559
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: the singer because he's and the way he found him

560
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: because Dave is cousins with Casey and Jojo from Chicago.

561
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: Their cousins, right, so he's like, yo, bro, Dave Holliston,

562
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: Casey and their cousins. They singing the church together back

563
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: in the day. So Jimmy found Dave and but he's

564
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: just a square church nigga, right. So Jimmy calls me

565
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, man, what you doing? He said, Man,

566
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: come get this nigga, like come take him around, drive

567
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: him around or something, because he's sitting in the house.

568
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, so I'll go grab him.

569
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I got a session now. Mind you.

570
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: I knew that he's sung.

571
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: I was about to say, you didn't know.

572
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

573
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: I was about to ask, did you know what it

574
00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: was when you picked them up?

575
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 6: No, because he was just a new native, you know

576
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 6: what I mean.

577
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: He's just just yeah, come get come get. Yes. I

578
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: went and grab him. And at the time, there was

579
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: also this other artist from San Diego, deb who was

580
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: who was working on some music. I THINKUL were label

581
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: I think, I want to say Columbia Records, but they

582
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: were paying Dion to do her music. So we're together

583
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: and at the time Tupac was dating Yo Yo, right,

584
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: that was his girl. But dev Yo Yo bringing it

585
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: all together, it's all that makes sense because all this ship.

586
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 8: Really happened in one day, one day, in one day, right,

587
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 8: So I get Dave and you know, I put him

588
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 8: on death like it's depth.

589
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: They ended up fucking around with each other. But but

590
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Ronie to sing, the girl singer, she was there because

591
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: she was there working on my stuff. So afterwards we

592
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: just hanging out and Dave come from the church, so

593
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: does ry Niece. So the beat is playing and they

594
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: just start vibing and just doing that just in the

595
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: studio standing there. We're standing around and too, I goes, man,

596
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: can y'all do that in there? And it was there

597
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: like fuck it because if you go back you listen

598
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: to Brenda's Got a Baby, it's only one verse, so

599
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: there's no structure. So he didn't come in. He didn't

600
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: come in there knowing that he was gonna have singing

601
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: on it. That shit happened organically. We just happened to

602
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: be there. And then He's like, yo, man, save this line.

603
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, shore me just did it.

604
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Damn you heard wow man?

605
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: And then you said he came back and got to

606
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: keep your head up.

607
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, so obviously they connected.

608
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: You know, Bob was good.

609
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy man.

610
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: Like you.

611
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: You was in the studio eighty five percent, like oh

612
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: thirty three okay, I was about four mm hm and

613
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: everything you know what I'm saying, transpired like you you

614
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: you got to see everybody who I heard about.

615
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

616
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: So it's like even with Brenda's got a baby and

617
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: you keep your head up. It's did you know he

618
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 4: was gonna be that type of start when you saw him?

619
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 6: There's no way to know that somebody's gonna be you know.

620
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: You know something They have to hit fatter, don't you know?

621
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Everybody gonna started me and you gave it, you can

622
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: he got it. But that doesn't mean that you're gonna

623
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: that you're gonna like like right now, you know there's

624
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: this's Tupac, there's Bob Marley, there's Elvis. You know what

625
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody could I can tell you that that's

626
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: what you're gonna be in't believe yourself, like because that's

627
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: not what you thinking, that's not what you set out

628
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: to do.

629
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: And it's the reality of the being there factor, like

630
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: you know this person like to us, he's a mythical

631
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: figure that this his homeboy like that.

632
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's funny because a lot of cats. So

633
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: like you said, he was he was he was our

634
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, he was our guy, like we was bringing

635
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: him along. And so when people would be like, yo,

636
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: what was it like being with Tupac back then? And

637
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: I was like, the question is you just asked stupid

638
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: what it was like being with me back then?

639
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 6: Because I was the guy?

640
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: What was it like?

641
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 8: It was?

642
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: You just wasn't like, get the whole don't get all

643
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: around the seventeen nigga. This is this is the life.

644
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: You get a nigga with frinkles.

645
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: Of course him to get the come back.

646
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 5: This nigga, you don't even still he got to make

647
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 5: his way through man's crazy.

648
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: Get invited.

649
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: I ain't never got invited to no poems show.

650
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 2: You don't want to go crazy.

651
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: You don't you think they're gonna be fucking you end

652
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 5: up doing that?

653
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: Hey man? But you know what, lucky when you when

654
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: you're doing it. It's hard, you know, no pun intended.

655
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: That's great, but because you don't look at the same

656
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: because you got to sit there and get it done

657
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: and through the all of the bullshit and complaining and

658
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: shooting it over and doing this, and.

659
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: Man that puss it that don't look right.

660
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the guy that can't you can't. And that's

661
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: why you you would always see the same guys in

662
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: all the pornos because a lot of guys can't do it.

663
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: Like you're getting in front of that camera, Yeah, get

664
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: it up and say.

665
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: To watch me rocking and rolling.

666
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: I ain't never been niggad around that many people before.

667
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not so.

668
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Being in being as though, like you know, Pop is

669
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: you know, of course the greatest you know what I'm saying,

670
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: and like being that you were there when you saw

671
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: him step away from you guys, and a lot of

672
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: the stuff that people criticized Pac for a lot of

673
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: stuff that they say, you know, he went to the

674
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: West Coast and became all these different people, and he

675
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: was you know, Minji was twenty five years old. Your

676
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: influence on him, like where were you during the time

677
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: when it was mega pak?

678
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: To me, he started to move into a different stratosphere

679
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: after Me Against the World came out. That was the

680
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: album that had Dear Mama, Yeah, because that was the

681
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: song that you know, took him to another another level. Right,

682
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: but he had he had. So here's an example. The

683
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: very first time I heard Pac on a song that

684
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: wasn't our production was uh definition of a thug nigga.

685
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Warren G produced it. It was on the soundtrack. I

686
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: forget the sound was it was it a poety Justice

687
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: was the poety Justice. And when I heard it, I

688
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: felt like a even though we're you know, roughly the

689
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: same as I felt like a proud paper like he's going,

690
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like fly because I'm like, okay,

691
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: now he's starting to really move. So for us, we

692
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: always we championed all of his successes, right because to us,

693
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: if he if he did well, he looked great. We

694
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: looked great, you know what I mean, because he came

695
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: from us and we knew, we knew what he wanted,

696
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: and he was getting to what he wanted. You know,

697
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: he was, he was passionate and his his I'm never

698
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: seen somebody would more work ethic than.

699
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: Stop flying that bitch, don't work.

700
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: And deep. That's right there. That's how that's how he

701
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: knocked out so much music because he was non stop.

702
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: But you just said that profound like him being able

703
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: to have the vision to put that together with Dave

704
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: Hollist and them just in the studio, Like that's what

705
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: I always hear about pop, Like he would be in

706
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: the studio. Hi niggas whatever he said last. That's the

707
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: name of the song. You put them niggas on.

708
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: There, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he heard them in

709
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: the corner and it was like, nah, I need that

710
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: in there, you know what I mean. He ain't wasting

711
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: left he called it, and was like, go do that.

712
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: I gotta ask you this, sure. Who did you meet

713
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: the hand juice star strugg Hmmm.

714
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: That's a good At the time with famous was famous nigga?

715
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Who did I meet that? I was starstruggling. Papa Rising

716
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: was popping out. That's a good one. I'll be trying

717
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: to do even I'll tell you better now. Who I

718
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: met that? I was star shrugging who I met? And

719
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe this is actually happening.

720
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: You know, we did the we did the I think

721
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: it was called the cons Film Festival and France. So

722
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: we're out there and we get there and this is

723
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: around the time when Soul to Soul was popping, you know,

724
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: want it was just keep on moving and that was

725
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: just so that ship. I know, I know, you're not

726
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: old enough. When that she was out, they controlled the world.

727
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: It was everything. Right. So we get there and they're like,

728
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: y'all want to go get something to eat? So they

729
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: take us to this restaurant, right, and Karen Willer's in there, right,

730
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: and I think I'm gonna say, Coolio's in there, and uh,

731
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: what's the name of the dude from So to Soul,

732
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: the producer, what's the name something b damn it. I

733
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: can't think of his name, but the guy that you

734
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: know when you see the images with the stress, he's

735
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: in there and Nigga's kicking and drinking all those. Next

736
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: thing I know, Shot is on the piano playing and

737
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Karen willerd is singing to him playing and as that's happening,

738
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: and Coolio busting and he's doing this and I was like.

739
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: The restaurant real jam session, Yeah, yeah, improptu the jam

740
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: session in South France. That's crazy, that's fact. That's a

741
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: great question, though. My question is who did who? Who

742
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: did you shock when they were a fan of you?

743
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: Like when somebody saw you it was like oh my god,

744
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: and you were.

745
00:40:59,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: Like you know me?

746
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Uh, there is I'm trying to think because I'm in

747
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: my mind, I always think like they don't know me, right,

748
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: because I'm like, you know, Shop was the main guy.

749
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: So I'm always like, I don't go into a room

750
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: thinking they know me, because everybody don't know you. I

751
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: don't care who you are, you know what I'm saying.

752
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: So I'm surprised. What I'm more surprised is when people

753
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: remember me, meaning you know, when we were on tour

754
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: with Republic Enemy, right, I used to go out me

755
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: Treutching Tupac. We used to watch the show every night,

756
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: to go out in the audience and just study it

757
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: and watch it, you know what I'm saying. But you know,

758
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: we're on there with Heavy D and you know, Light

759
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: and all of these people that I'm fans of because

760
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: they were doing it before us. And then you see

761
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: him years later and that some money be like oh ship,

762
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a good feeling to

763
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: know that you actually made an impression on somebody to

764
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: where they actually have stories about you. You know, I'm

765
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: not even knowing. You know, I'm probably wilding out because

766
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: I was younger. I was I was a little kid

767
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: wilder when I was younger, right, Like, Bro, he gonna

768
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: make that a reality.

769
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 5: That's what I want to talk about.

770
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: That ship looked like it was so fun.

771
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 5: Take me back to that day I get around video.

772
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 6: Cool, Bro, that was the funnest day.

773
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: It looked like day the fun.

774
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Because we just have fun that day, Like at the

775
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: end of that day, that was the funnest day in

776
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: my life to that point. That's how much fun?

777
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: Which they top that?

778
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I just remember leaving like damn

779
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: and before that do what you like video is the

780
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: funniest day of my life. That's right, So how could

781
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: you top that? Then? We did? I get around video

782
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: because it was like we really just had a good time,

783
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: chilled kick, good time.

784
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: Man. That's crazy.

785
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: I mean just the history that you are part of.

786
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 4: Man.

787
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: Like for example, Eve forty is one of my favorite rappers.

788
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: All I love forty by being in the space of

789
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: you know, the Bay Area. A lot of people that

790
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: don't know the Bay is probably the only place in

791
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: America that has a collection of cities that.

792
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Are you know, notoriety.

793
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: Just just accept it as one place, you know what

794
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like everywhere else is trying to create that

795
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 3: and trying to do that with the DMV. But y'all

796
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: did it, Like do you give credit to like the

797
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: guys like forty and from Vallejo or you know, like

798
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: what made that come together like that?

799
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: In your eyes?

800
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: I think, especially coming from the Bay Area is so diverse,

801
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: and from in the Bay is crazy because from city

802
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: to city we had different slang and different like I

803
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: could tell you from San Francisco, how you talking, how

804
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: you dress. If I see you, I know, if you say,

805
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: what's up, cutty, you gotta be for Richmond or Balao,

806
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: he'd be like, what up?

807
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 6: Ro Oh, these niggas from San Jose, Like.

808
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: We we can identify that because it's so different even

809
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: though we're all right there. It's like it within our culture.

810
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of subcultures around, but all of them

811
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: like we all respect each other's culture as well. So

812
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: you know what E forty did, Nobody but E forty

813
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: could do it. You understand what I'm saying what we did,

814
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: only we could could do that what So's a Mischief

815
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: did and hieroglyphics they that was their thing, you know,

816
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: Tony Tony Tony in Vogue mc hammer. You know what

817
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like all of all of us were. You

818
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: would never know we were all from the same place

819
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: because we sounded so different, but we all existed together

820
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: and we have respect for each other, so we would

821
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: be you know.

822
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 6: So I'm in a club. It come me forty?

823
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: What up?

824
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: You know, we said? And crazy shit. So I bought

825
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: my mom a crib in Lale and I go to

826
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: the grocery store. This is like ninety four, right, and

827
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: I go to the supermarket. I was going to get

828
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: some drunk and I say, thinking eight forty coming out

829
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: of the store, right, And I was like, He's like,

830
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing out here? I was like, bro, I

831
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: moved out here. It's like where you at? Da da

832
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: da da da? He said, where you at? I'm gonna

833
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: come over here. I was like yeah, right. So I

834
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm over here. I come back

835
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: thirty minutes later. Thing dog. Then Nigga came, pick me up,

836
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: throw me around. You know what, I'm saying, and we

837
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: kicked it, drank and showed me is you know around

838
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: where his way was and all that ship and so

839
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with the style of the

840
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: type of music we made. We just get down with you.

841
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: That's amazing, man like being in being as though so

842
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: much I didn't even know in Vogue was from the

843
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 3: Bay Area. How do you know I didn't know that?

844
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oaktown three, I'm going crazy like the town specifically Oakland,

845
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: Like you know a lot of the guys that are

846
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: coming up in the city.

847
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Now, do you still involve yourself in the music scene

848
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: in the Bay in Oakland specifically.

849
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: I do what I don't meaning my tie to that

850
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: is there is a a.

851
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 6: Production team in Oakland called the Mechanics. If you.

852
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: If you don't have a Mechanics track, you ain't been

853
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: in the back, you know what I mean. They are

854
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: the sound of the day of that mob music, that

855
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: mob style. They just put out in the record shout

856
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: out Mechanics. But anyway, a lot of people don't know.

857
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: For Racks of the Mechanics was our DJ and he

858
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: used to be my barber when I had hair, so

859
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: he comes from us. So digital running around is still

860
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: really moving and shaken through him, you know what I mean. So,

861
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, and they produce for anybody, you know, the

862
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: Jack of mcmoll, the forty Fab everybody. You know the Mechanics.

863
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: You go to Bay and say the mechanics, man, that's

864
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: what that's like. You know, organized noise, you know what

865
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the sound. But they come from

866
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: Digital Underground.

867
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: What do you want the legacy of Digital Underground to be?

868
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: What do I want it to be? What do I

869
00:47:53,680 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: want people to remember about the group? Is that we

870
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: were really about the music and the cultures. That was

871
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: that that came first. Yeah, meaning Shahji was a real musician,

872
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The music was everything. Tupac

873
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: was very passionate about his messaging and what he wanted

874
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: to say. That was everything I wanted to promote. Like

875
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: I loved hip hop so much. I wanted to make

876
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: the best hip hop that I could make. And you know,

877
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: I believe that I've.

878
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 6: Achieved that a few times.

879
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I had super Like

880
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a historian when it comes to that.

881
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: So you know, I always wanted my ogs too when

882
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: they hear you know, to hear them say, they're like, yo, y'all,

883
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: y'all doing it. You know what I'm saying.

884
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 6: Not like I needed the approval, but I always wanted to.

885
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: Do right by the culture, and we all did so

886
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I think did your underground Our legacy should be that

887
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: we really really wanted to make good music. Like it

888
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: wasn't for us. It wasn't about you have to remember,

889
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, like the certain message you want you to

890
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: stop eating meats and shit like that. We just we

891
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: just wanted to rock right and give it, but give

892
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: it to you, give you quality. You know what I'm saying.

893
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna come out if we didn't feel like

894
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was right, it was right,

895
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

896
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: And once you guys transitioned, like you know, shot Gee

897
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: started doing the things that when I ain't gonna say,

898
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: you guys broke up, but you like kind of separated,

899
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: Like when you guys came back together, did you have

900
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: any desires It's like, let's, you know, put the band

901
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: back together again and do it again.

902
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: Before a Shot passed, we were having conversations about doing

903
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: a reunion tour because a lot of us went on

904
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: to do things like the Loonies is part of our

905
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: collective and like I said, the Mechanics. And then we

906
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: had a DJ, New Styles out of Milwaukee, and he

907
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: went on to be the Milwaukee Bucks DJ, and you know,

908
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: he did greater like everybody that was under us went

909
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: on to do greater things, and he wanted to. And

910
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: then he introduced me to Young Hump who plays the character,

911
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: and we tour as Digital under Ground right now, right,

912
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: But he Shot put that together and because he was

913
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: such a musician, you know, this is the how he

914
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: said the Gifted the curse. Shot was always upset that

915
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: he could never play the Humpty Dance live because he

916
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: always had to be Humpty, you know, so he was

917
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: always in search of finding somebody that could play that character.

918
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: And then we did find Young Hump. So the idea was,

919
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna put this last big tour. We're gonna put

920
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: it bring everybody together to actually show who we all became. Right.

921
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 6: Unfortunately it didn't happen.

922
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 5: You know how long it took the world to figure

923
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 5: out the Hump up and Shot was the same person, like.

924
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 6: Two day o'clock.

925
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: People don't know, but but but it was purposeful, right

926
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: because we we always had somebody play that, you know,

927
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: play that part.

928
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 6: Just to pull that up.

929
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: Because Shock's brother, Kent looked just like Shock.

930
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 6: So when you go when you.

931
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: Look at same song video, the Humpty scenes when he's

932
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: just chilling, you see shot, that's his brother, you know

933
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it was two people, you know

934
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: what I mean, just one of them could actually rhyme.

935
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 5: So then we're on the tour, so y'all really just here,

936
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 5: like y'all knew this shit.

937
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: Okay, bet history baby.

938
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know something that it's just you know,

939
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: pops into my mind when I hear you talk about

940
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: these people like Pock and Shock and you know, with

941
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 3: these people being gone, Like one of the things I

942
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: don't think we discussed enough is how we deal with

943
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 3: the trauma of loss, Like how do you deal with

944
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: the loss of your homeboys and your partners to this day,

945
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: because because it's the memories have to be different, like

946
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: these were your friends, these were partners to us.

947
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: They yeah, well, you know, always I'll explain it to

948
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: people like it's very simple, like when you lose a

949
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: family member, that's how it feels, you know, we were family,

950
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: and it hurt that way. That's that's really the best

951
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: way to explain it. It's like, no matter what, I

952
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: don't care how big you get, if something happens to you,

953
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: your parents or your brother, they're gonna be her right,

954
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. To everyone else is like,

955
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: oh wow, it's this big story and is that But

956
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: it was as simple as simple as that, you know,

957
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: Like I'll just say when I got the call that

958
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: Shock had passed, right, even though I knew Shock was

959
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: going through some things, right, and I was like, you know,

960
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: who knows, right, but to actually hear it, you know,

961
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: I just broke down right there, go apart, right.

962
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 3: But you know, being as though you still have to

963
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: continue on and you know the legacy of what these

964
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: guys left, Like what is your goal and what do

965
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: you want the people to know about these guys from

966
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: your perspective, from first hand perspective you know about a

967
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: part or a Shock or you know.

968
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Any well, first and foremost, I do want to you know,

969
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: my job now as long as I'm here.

970
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 6: Is to continue the legacy.

971
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: And hope that to make sure as much as I

972
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: can that people don't forget you know, what we did

973
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: who we were, right. I think you know Tupac's safe, right,

974
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna know them forever. But you know, a lot

975
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: of people don't. It's so much unknown about Shock and

976
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: disgorged around in us that you know, I have to

977
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: come here and tell these stories so that that that

978
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: people do know. And then I hope that you tell

979
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: the stories of you damn right. But that's that's how

980
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: it works, you know what I mean. I wrote, I

981
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: wrote a book. I wrote an autobiography, right, And I

982
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: was like, because people, you know, I have all these

983
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: stories and people are like, yo, you should write a

984
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: book because it'd be some more you know that. I

985
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: just say, oh, by the way, like I'll be like

986
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: what And I'm like, oh yeah, that's right. My brother

987
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: all the time, he's like, he never tell me you

988
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: was with this? Did that? I was like, I don't know,

989
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: just not thinking about it like that, you know, just

990
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: move around. So, yes, we have to. We all have

991
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: to tell our stories, like you should write them. You should.

992
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: You should write two books, you know what I mean,

993
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: tell your story because I always said if we don't,

994
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: if we don't tell our stories, years from now, think

995
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: Daddy Kane to be a white dude with a mullet

996
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: do change our story if we don't tell our story.

997
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 6: We have to preserve our stories.

998
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: And I'm sure his story is just as interesting in

999
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: a way. You know, he has a story that all

1000
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: of us here will go what just like you do,

1001
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: just like you do. So we just have to continue

1002
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: and always tell our stories. And that's how people learn

1003
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: and that's how legacies continue.

1004
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you're doing an amazing job. Money.

1005
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 5: What's the place you went on tour? Like worldwide? Around

1006
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: the world. What's somewhere you went and had way more

1007
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 5: fun than you never expected?

1008
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: Like Japan? I know you.

1009
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, because they you know, they love it. Yeah,

1010
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: they love the car.

1011
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: Japan.

1012
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Yea.

1013
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: I've been in Japan twice.

1014
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun.

1015
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 6: Australia was fun.

1016
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: Australia I heard is super lig They just live black

1017
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: they little boy, Yeah.

1018
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: They can't wait.

1019
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: Los always tell me about Germany. I've never been to Germany.

1020
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: Wild in Germany? What Germany? What shocked you? Like?

1021
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 3: What place did you go to that was like somewhere

1022
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: that you say and people be like what and it

1023
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: was that?

1024
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Uh? I mean we've been the Feeland. Excuse me, uh,

1025
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: here feeling that like what places you mean was our

1026
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: shocked to be.

1027
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: No, that shocked you, like that they knew you guys,

1028
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: and that the culture was there and that you had

1029
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: an impact there, like somewhere that shocked.

1030
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: You, Not really anywhere, because we were we were we

1031
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: were popular in Europe before we were popular in the

1032
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: United States. What, yeah, because Do What You Like was

1033
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: the when it was out, was the biggest record in

1034
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: Europe at a time, So we toured Europe before we

1035
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: ever performed here in the United States for real. Yeah,

1036
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: we left because this is what happened. We recorded sex

1037
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: Package the album. When we were done recording that album,

1038
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: we did a show in San Francisco, and then I

1039
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: think two days later. We were in Europe on a

1040
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: tour for two months, and we came back right after

1041
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: Sex Package dropped. While we were in Europe touring off

1042
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: too much, you like. Yeah, so we was, you know,

1043
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: moving around so and so you know a lot of

1044
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: people will say, you know, people that saw it that

1045
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, we had one of the better stage shows

1046
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: at the time, but we we honed that in Europe

1047
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: in coffee shops and wherever were performing at.

1048
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean we're talking about so when

1049
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: y'all was over there, y'all were doing shows, and like

1050
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: what would be the equivalent of getting on in America,

1051
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: y'all was doing that in Europe.

1052
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: So when the shows we were doing in Europe, the

1053
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: clubs would be about the size of this room right here.

1054
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: Promotional too, and it would be like a stage.

1055
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: Like promo to promo. I mean, but they might do

1056
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: thirty of these motherfuckers.

1057
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: I was getting paid though that much, but still, you know,

1058
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: to promote the album.

1059
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: Yah were promoted, right, you know, we stayed alive. I

1060
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: didn't buy nothing new. We yeah, we got back but no,

1061
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: but but we were over there and it's crazy, so

1062
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: we have so this one time we go, now, mind you,

1063
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: we had never the very you know, the very first

1064
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: time we left was we went to Germany, right, and

1065
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: they're like, so, you know, it's this big three day

1066
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: festival being televised all throughout Germany and parts of Europe, right,

1067
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: and they you know, you guys are performing. So we

1068
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: get out. There's like Frankie Beverly Bays Clean, Latifa, ten City.

1069
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember back in the day,

1070
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: Daddy Freddy Jamaican reggae dude. Yeah, all of that. It

1071
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: was like three three days of performances. Them were like, yo,

1072
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: we want to see that, right. Look, we get out

1073
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: there and they giving us shirts that say do what

1074
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: you Like and buttons and shit. I'm like, oh, let's dope.

1075
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: They made shirts for everybody. Come to find out, the

1076
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: whole three day festival was called the do what you

1077
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: Like Festival, and we were the biggest acts and we

1078
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: were headlining that festival. We didn't know and we had

1079
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: like this opening act set of like fifteen minutes, and

1080
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: we didn't know what the fuck to do, Niga, so

1081
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: we know what we did up at the end of

1082
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: the show, we ended up just calling the pm D

1083
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: and and and Twin Hype and Queen Latif. We just

1084
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: called everybody else on stage to rhyme with us, and

1085
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: we just freestyted, and then more of them one rapping

1086
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: and then when rapping lines you.

1087
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: Told me about no matter what you say, yep, damn man.

1088
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: So that's how that was. Like, we had no idea,

1089
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: So I guess you can say that's a that was

1090
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: a surprise because we did not know that our record

1091
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: was that that big out there. That's crazy at the time,

1092
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,479
Speaker 1: no phones, no internet. The less thing you got to

1093
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: come outside.

1094
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 4: How you known is word of mouth, and really somebody

1095
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 4: les you go there.

1096
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: You don't know. There was no There was no internet,

1097
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: there was no cell phones, There was no that. That

1098
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: was at a time where a record, if you on

1099
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: the East coast you put it out, it could take

1100
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: a few months before it got to the West coast.

1101
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: You know, because I'm you know, my family's originally from Philadelphia,

1102
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: So I used to go to Philly and New Jersey

1103
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: every summer. I go and I bring the new or

1104
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: the new whatever, knowing that it's not gonna get there

1105
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: for a couple of months.

1106
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: There was the first nigga in the Bay where the

1107
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: freaks come out at night. Take that's crazy. So you know,

1108
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: like you said, there was no internet. And I always

1109
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: ask people this who were famous back then, like how

1110
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 3: coming from that style of fame, how have you adjusted? Like, well,

1111
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: what has been the biggest adjustment from coming from that

1112
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: to now? All the access that people have to you

1113
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 3: and how quickly people can get to you and all

1114
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 3: that very different.

1115
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different, like if it was if it was

1116
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: cell phones and then and that we be in trouble

1117
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: back then because we're waking up. I'm glad they glad

1118
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: they couldn't record that stuff. But now.

1119
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 6: To me, bro like like.

1120
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: I've always been one to say, like, if there are

1121
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: tools out there that help us, use those tools, right,

1122
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: So as these tools become available, my first thought is

1123
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: I need to learn how to how to do that?

1124
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I don't want to get

1125
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: left beyond And though you know the people that fight

1126
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: it and resist uh change technology that don't evolve, those

1127
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: are the.

1128
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 6: Ones that get left beyond.

1129
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: Right. And I'm gonna put you all up on game

1130
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: talk about the new project, which is part of that.

1131
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so who would you say? Transition you? And like

1132
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: he asked you, who taught you how to wrap? Who

1133
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: taught you the internet?

1134
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Who taught me the internet? Shanna jack me not.

1135
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: Just believe that?

1136
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: Who figure out how to watch that? Who?

1137
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: Bro?

1138
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: I told myself, I'm just I'm wired like that. You know.

1139
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: I taught myself how to use pro tous. I taught

1140
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: myself how to engineer. I taught myself you know what

1141
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm I'm I'm I taught myself how

1142
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: to edit my videos, like I because I've I'm not

1143
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: to wait around motherfucker, you know what I mean. You

1144
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: tell me you're gonna come help me do something, fight

1145
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: the third time, I'm just not doing it. And that's

1146
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,959
Speaker 1: usually That's usually how it happens. So a lot of

1147
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: my skills on things like that come from me not

1148
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: wanting to wait for somebody to come towards somebody telling

1149
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: me they're gonna come in and they don't. You know, always

1150
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to put I never like to have

1151
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 1: my outcome in your hands. I mean, and you can't

1152
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: control what happens to me, you know what I mean.

1153
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: It happens when you when you when you need somebody

1154
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: that has to do that for you, then you have

1155
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: the mercy of on their time. And I don't. Yeah,

1156
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't like to be on people's time. Like so

1157
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: I teach myself whatever it is I think I need

1158
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: to know, you know, I try to figure it out,

1159
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: did you kids? Yes?

1160
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: Okay?

1161
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: I always asked that too, because you know, all that

1162
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 3: access I had back then, it probably was hard not

1163
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: to have a bunch of I don't have to lucky,

1164
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 3: I mean, how you can pull that off? He was

1165
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. I was discippointed, you used Okay, well,

1166
01:05:45,600 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: I mean, well, yeah, your feeling.

1167
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: From But I'll tell you what though, here's the thing

1168
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: about that not being no internet or whatever. If you

1169
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: back then, if you met somebody on the road, like

1170
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: a girl or whatever, and you and she didn't get

1171
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: your number once you left that city, there's no way

1172
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: if you don't want to. You know what I'm saying now,

1173
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: as soon as you walk out bros tagging me, you

1174
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: know what I meant, You can't like, yeah, you can't.

1175
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: Can't move around like that. That's crazy.

1176
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like like I swear to God.

1177
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: Like you've seen a lot though. I was, you know,

1178
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: turn around, bro. I was like, yeah, yeah, I was

1179
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: just there the thing I saw you. Yeah, y'all see that.

1180
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, time when the time when it wasn't

1181
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: that was And so if you didn't get somebody's number,

1182
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: there's no way. So we had to have our numbers.

1183
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: I had had a black book, a phone book, a

1184
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: little book that had all my numbers in it. Weeen

1185
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: beeple ca you know, U huh me and beepers came out. Beepers.

1186
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: That was ship that was ages. No, no, no, no,

1187
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: that was an eighties because the first is I'm going

1188
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: to beep you get to a phone, but you had

1189
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: to get to a pay phone. That's what I'm saying.

1190
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: It was like a bee for you because I need you,

1191
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: you get to a phone. You know, it was the eighties.

1192
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: It was an alert.

1193
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: People. So what you got they got slim, right.

1194
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: But then when I got my beeper, because you know,

1195
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: you don't really have no beeper unless why you got

1196
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: a beeper. So when I had a beeper, and my

1197
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: mom was like, I know you better not be doing ship.

1198
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: I used to walk around my uncle beeper. That bitch

1199
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: was off as a motherfucker in the third grade walking

1200
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: around with a beeper, that's all acting like I was

1201
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: looking this up, like you had everybody had.

1202
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: To remember the cold.

1203
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 5: Yeah he had phone at the same time, was like

1204
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 5: he's selling that note.

1205
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: But then but then here's the thing. You know, when

1206
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: you had the beeper, you had the number, but then

1207
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: you did you had a coat, right, so you know me,

1208
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: you beep and then you leave the cold. So the

1209
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: next know, it is oh, sixty three six, you.

1210
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 2: Live on sixty third, sixty third.

1211
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: Trying to eat me.

1212
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 4: So when they deep you if they said get to a.

1213
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: Phone, call them like emergency.

1214
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: They learned how to send messages in beepers like you

1215
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: know you hell.

1216
01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 2: That's why they say three.

1217
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, turned upside down, so then that you can do hello,

1218
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: I love you. You know, we had a one for emergency,

1219
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: you know.

1220
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: What I mean, text messaging before text message basically, but.

1221
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: You had to do it all through numbers though, so

1222
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: you had to make the numbers say what you want.

1223
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 5: You forgot about this too. When but get mad at you,

1224
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 5: she'd just beat you and leave all the little stars.

1225
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 5: She just pushed the star on the phone so it

1226
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 5: to come up and it'll just be number, and then it'll.

1227
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: Be even longer.

1228
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 5: You remember when they had the other part of the

1229
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 5: beat where she could go over to the next little joint.

1230
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 5: It'll play there for a minute, then it'll go to

1231
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 5: the rest of the beat. You remember that you talking about.

1232
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 5: I had about the ring toes because I had the people.

1233
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: You didn't have no many.

1234
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 2: It was clear.

1235
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: It was clear. It was red through brand. She was

1236
01:09:59,240 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: at the head.

1237
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I remember I used to get them ships

1238
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 5: in there and you look like you don't call them back.

1239
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 5: You can tell who the fuck it was because it'll

1240
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 5: just be a screen full of them stars and then

1241
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 5: it'll like wait for a second and then to go

1242
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 5: to the other screen and it'll be like three four

1243
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 5: most star like star.

1244
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 4: I just thought about to check my be Like in

1245
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 4: the nineties, I ain't never seen no cell phone, everybody.

1246
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't no about no cell phone, my phone.

1247
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 5: Phone because you remember them flat joints came right after

1248
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 5: the brick.

1249
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: You got a small you a bigger back, a small

1250
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: battery you put in your pocket for you.

1251
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: I remember all.

1252
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 5: The cell phone had the little fat ass charge and

1253
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 5: then you was buying the phones that was unlocked, you

1254
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 5: know what I mean, so you didn't have to chip

1255
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 5: the chip in it.

1256
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: You know, fifty dollars phone.

1257
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 2: I got the hook up type ship.

1258
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's talk about the new project man show what

1259
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 3: First of all, what keeps you motivated to still make

1260
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: music after all this time?

1261
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: Because I love it. I love you get the relationship,

1262
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1263
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: You're not a lot of love what a lot of

1264
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: people do a.

1265
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: Lot of people do A lot of people, Kid, it's a.

1266
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: Tough business, toxic relationship.

1267
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: Exactly live it.

1268
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of times like fuck this ship, but.

1269
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 5: The next ding, you know, like an hour later, you beg.

1270
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1271
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: So for me, it's it's given me everything that I've

1272
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: asked for more, right, So it didn't It didn't disappoint me,

1273
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: where it does disappoint a lot of people if you

1274
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: don't do it, or you don't get it the way

1275
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: you thought you should, or people don't know who you are.

1276
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: Everything that I wanted, I pretty much got it and

1277
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: some more. And when I say that, man, like I said,

1278
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: I always wanted to make some music or make a

1279
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: song that would be here after me. And we did that,

1280
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, so long after I'm gone a couple of times, Yeah,

1281
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear our music, right, So I did that.

1282
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: So I'm not so now I think this is the

1283
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: first time that I'm creating for myself. That being meaning

1284
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: back in the day, you were signed to a record label, right,

1285
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: so the label had to tell you if the album

1286
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: was okay, you know, or and then if you didn't

1287
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: make a song, that was, if the single wasn't a

1288
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: song that could be played on the radio, the label

1289
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy, or if the single doesn't sell a

1290
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: certain amount of units. You feel like you didn't make

1291
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: good enough music it because enough people didn't like it.

1292
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: Now I don't. That should don't matter. I make ship

1293
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: that I like to do, you know what I mean? Like,

1294
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing it for somebody else.

1295
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: Doing most of my songs. Yeah, I do this ship

1296
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: for me.

1297
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing it for.

1298
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 6: People who want to hear me.

1299
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like if somebody yo mind,

1300
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: like I always love you, how you rock? Check this out?

1301
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm too old to try to prove it. I

1302
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: don't try to convince nobody nothing. I'll tell you right away.

1303
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: I can tell you something if you say it ain't true,

1304
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: I was all right. I try to convince your stupid Yeah,

1305
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to convince you. Like I'll let you.

1306
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: I'll let you know.

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:50,879
Speaker 6: I'll give you the information.

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01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: It's up to you.

1309
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 2: We've gotting surprise features on that.

1310
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: I got Crazy Bone from Bone Thugs on there. I

1311
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: got very much from bather Low raz Gas Uh Guap

1312
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: Dad four thousands. Yeah. The single the singles with Wap

1313
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: and you know a Folk with Gap Wap reminds me

1314
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: of me back then. It's a fly young Oak nigga,

1315
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: that talking ship and he and he rock with it.

1316
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: So the single is sit next to Me in the video.

1317
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 1: But the but the the project I'm gonna show you guys,

1318
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: it's a what we call it's a it's a tap

1319
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: to play fan card, meaning you taped this to your phone, right.

1320
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: And then bring up all the ship and.

1321
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: It opens up a standalone platform that not only has

1322
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: the full album, but then you got videos. You got

1323
01:14:55,439 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: to get the credits. It works. It open your phone,

1324
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: there you go, and so you can scroll through, look

1325
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: at the videos and credits, you know. So I'm giving

1326
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: you the full project, right, full album, right video, so

1327
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: that the album is all new music, but then the

1328
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: audio and video side of it. I'm sort of bringing

1329
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: you into our digital underground history, meaning you know, the

1330
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: project is called Analogue Wishes Digital Dreams, right, And I

1331
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: gave it that title because when we came out, everything

1332
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: was analog, right, And that's when we had aspirations right

1333
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: and through, you know, through our career and in Digital underground.

1334
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: Pretty much our dreams of being where we are today

1335
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: kind of came through that. So I'm giving you new

1336
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: me music, but I'm also giving you you're sharing solar history.

1337
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: You can't you have to have the car. So right

1338
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: now you can. You can play it, but as soon

1339
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: as you close your phone and try to open it

1340
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: back up again, it's not gonna work. It's gonna disappear.

1341
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: O is gonna disappear, bro.

1342
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 5: But that's the whole thing, right So you So that's what.

1343
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: That's what the project is. And I'm selling it from

1344
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: our you know, our digit run around merchandise website which

1345
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: is deemerch dot com. Right, So yeah, think about it

1346
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: like this. You on Spotify, right, you get point zero

1347
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: zero four set per stream, right, so you basically you

1348
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: gotta have you got to do a million streams to

1349
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: make about four thousand dollars. I can sell a hundred

1350
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: cards and make that more. You understand what I'm saying.

1351
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: And this is direct to the consumer, and not only

1352
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: that when they purchase the car, to when they when

1353
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: they're communicating and listen to you. You get all that data,

1354
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: that's your data. When we when we give our music

1355
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: to YouTube and Spotify, they get that data. They know

1356
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: the IP address, they know exactly who's reaching out, they

1357
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: know what you know.

1358
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 6: How you look on Instagram? Oh fifty percent.

1359
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: Women and this age likes my shit. You get all

1360
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: of that. It's yours and.

1361
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 6: You can use it.

1362
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: So not only do you get all this content on here,

1363
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: but this also doubles for me as a membership card.

1364
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: So now if I'm doing a show and I'd be like,

1365
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: who got the who got the awd D.

1366
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: Merch?

1367
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 1: Right now?

1368
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 6: Meet me there?

1369
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: Or meeting great opportunities that you only get if you

1370
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: have this. You know, we do a we're doing an

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01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: our release party in Atlanta, right Who the fuck got

1372
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: the hotail? Who got it? Right? You can do whatever

1373
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: you want. So and it's not just about music. You

1374
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: guys should have it as well. You know there's ways

1375
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: that that's that you that.

1376
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 2: What is it's just me in front of like three

1377
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: hous fan.

1378
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: Because you know we come we come from an era

1379
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: of tangible products.

1380
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: We used to find.

1381
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: A CD, physical copy. So now I'm giving that back

1382
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: to you with art work. You know, you can get

1383
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: in there, read the credits, all of that. Hey boo.

1384
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 4: Once you get out, you got to get back on it.

1385
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what it does is each time you tap it,

1386
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 1: it creates a unique U R L. So I can't

1387
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: so you're on my phone, you can't just say, bro,

1388
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: this is you can't copy paste and send somebody.

1389
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: We need that need.

1390
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

1391
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 3: Selling it for thirty five hours thirty five and it

1392
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: comes with right now because this is the.

1393
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: First the first run of it, and the first one

1394
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: hundred I'm signing right and then also I'm tapping it

1395
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: and a thousand for the project.

1396
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 3: I got you, I got you bout one man, Look

1397
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: what be gonna buy one for all of us? We

1398
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: give it back to you, flying you do, I got you.

1399
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: My wallet is there we got I have no more

1400
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: grabbing money on camera.

1401
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm sure, I forget what I was

1402
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: just saying.

1403
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 3: No, you were talking about just the access to the car,

1404
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 3: and you're setting there for thirty five right.

1405
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: Now, because yeah, right now, but you got to get

1406
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: it from the from the website, right. So what I'm

1407
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: saying is it creates a you, a unique U r

1408
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: L that you can't copy, right and and I'm capping

1409
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,919
Speaker 1: it at a thousand, So once you have it, instantly

1410
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: becomes a collective item because only a thousand will persist

1411
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: to exist of this particular project. And then after that,

1412
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm moving on to the next one. So now, if

1413
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: you buy it, now you can resell it at a

1414
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: greater price because now it's a collective and you know how

1415
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: you know it is with us like somebody, you like

1416
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: the people that are going to buy it and never

1417
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: even put it to their phone. They just want the carcase.

1418
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: It's a project that we did. So so many uses

1419
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: for this, but it also director consumer and it's sort

1420
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: of put starters back in the driver's seat where you

1421
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: get all of your money, you know what I mean,

1422
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 1: Because it's if you really do it, you know, it's

1423
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. You know, you put your

1424
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: blessed and tears, hard and soul into this music, and

1425
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: you're telling me, you know, my art is worth point

1426
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: zero zero zero four from a penny, and I'm happy

1427
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:57,480
Speaker 1: about it. These things on Spotify when they wrapped celebrating

1428
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: somebody getting all their.

1429
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 3: Money, it's hard for y'all to do that. I'm sure

1430
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 3: it's hard for your air to do that, because y'all

1431
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 3: was out the trunk with it. Y'all got to see

1432
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 3: the money exactly.

1433
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: A director.

1434
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: Younger who don't know that. They just think this is.

1435
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 6: Because I'm looking at.

1436
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: It like copies, you know what I mean.

1437
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 4: So you prefer to take the ten dollars up front

1438
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 4: versus you getting the ten dollars and more over a span.

1439
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: It's yes, because like I said, I'm not my what

1440
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: do you call it? My generation over where I come from.

1441
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: You know, my true fans, all of them don't have

1442
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: Spotify accounts, but if they know I got something they

1443
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: wanted right so I at the shows grab this. I

1444
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, bro, you can do it, but you

1445
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: gotta get on Spotify, get an count do all this ship.

1446
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: He was like, oh man, I ain't doing that, you

1447
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But if you got it right here,

1448
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: let me get that or.

1449
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 5: And that's why you should subscribe to the app.

1450
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: You ain't got to do all that ripping and running.

1451
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: You can get all your eighty five stuff in one place.

1452
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: That's what I said. A show for lives, you know

1453
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: when you want it. You wanted ship. Look at y'all

1454
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: show y'all got to get ship shop bring my mind

1455
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: because I showed us like where's the where's the shop at? Shot?

1456
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: Welcome back to.

1457
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, wondering did we just do a whole interview and

1458
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 5: didn't even do it?

1459
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: But we weren't going to do it. I know, that

1460
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: because I know when to do it. Ladies and gentlemen.

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01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 5: We got a very special guests in the house with

1462
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 5: us tonight from the legendary group Digital Underground, none other

1463
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 5: than Money be got you. Yes, yes, jail N in

1464
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 5: the build with us tonight. Yeah, we definitely got you

1465
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 5: some eighty five steps. We look, we got car Freshmans,

1466
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 5: key chain.

1467
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: Know what age.

1468
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 5: I know that your first time stopping through here, but

1469
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 5: definitely don't let it be a last. Shut out your

1470
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 5: social media and let them know where they can follow

1471
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 5: you and find you.

1472
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: And you can find on Instagram, Twitter, Uh, TikTok. I

1473
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: don't be on TikTok, but I got to count that

1474
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: money be sixty nine right like the positions I was

1475
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: asking the question many.

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01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: Jim got a question for you.

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01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: Yo, the same person you talk a little bit about that,

1478
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: So you which one.

1479
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 2: He came here and they realized that.

1480
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: He was the same person heard it was with fan

1481
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: fire Freddy. Where's the thing about fat fire Freddy. He

1482
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: couldn't see nothing. His eye was shout out to fire

1483
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: fire Na where he came home. When he came home

1484
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: because he got this play and how to go that way.

1485
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: That's why so when he came out and did that

1486
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: ship right, we went to the to the to the

1487
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: pizza place to film it, and there was an arcade

1488
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 1: in there and Nigga tried to get on the driving game.

1489
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: What do you do that for?

1490
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:03,480
Speaker 9: Every time he pulled out his crashing right, he was like,

1491
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 9: he got really mad. Though I was walking with him.

1492
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 9: He got mad.

1493
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: So you didn't want to talk about what you got?

1494
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: New face come here? Yeah? So new thanks, he got

1495
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: something come on over here.

1496
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Specifically, this is in.

1497
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: Your head because somebody told me to find new faiths

1498
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: and and this is gonna be for him. So what

1499
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: this is right? This is the original promotional stickers. When

1500
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: we put the Humpty Dance out, our manager found he's

1501
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: in his garage, so he's not remixed. These are the

1502
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,520
Speaker 1: original ones.

1503
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 5: And the whole one you feel men.

1504
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: And I had you in mind.

1505
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that's for you.

1506
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you would. That's exactly what he said.

1507
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,839
Speaker 1: He said he probably gonna have some ship you designed,

1508
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: you know, to fly flying bro Yep drew all of us.

1509
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: He did all of that eighty when came out for

1510
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 1: years was it eight Humpy that came out ninety nineties?

1511
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: So this is the ninety mm hmm.

1512
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: Man, that ship is so cold.

1513
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, look at that man. You said he drew

1514
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 3: all of those himself.

1515
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Yep, he drew that too, and that's the real. Yeah

1516
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, he actually signed and seat right. He

1517
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: drew all of that ship.

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01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 3: You got the sharp Yeah thats c oh yeah, I forgot.

1519
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1520
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 2: See he's talking about the tape.

1521
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, and I'm signing that the boat was famous.

1522
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they thought people was really like alien person.

1523
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1524
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 3: Hey, we just learned something New Face that you know.

1525
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 3: Dave hollis the someing on Brenda's got a baby.

1526
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: He said, dang, keep your head up.

1527
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.

1528
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 3: See how new Face act like he ain't know that ship.

1529
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 2: They just said here like he was like, see that

1530
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: that's cold.

1531
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:43,879
Speaker 1: Man. Oh I might even.

1532
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: Take that mic dad man, that's crazy real.

1533
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: Oh that fact. And so if you see that Rackadelic,

1534
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: that was Shocks other character. That was his artist character.

1535
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: So we'll get already with sign it Racaedelic. See right

1536
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: down there, so we see Rockadelic, that was him too

1537
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: long sign right there. Yeah, that's a rigide name, that's

1538
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: the that's it. So he drew all he drawing.

1539
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's hold on, hold on, let me see that,

1540
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: cause that was cold.

1541
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 4: That was hold that Detroit Pistons Like that was cold.

1542
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 1: Okay, you put his nose on the bitch that he

1543
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna cald. Yes, sir, I'm.

1544
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: Yet nineteen nine. Look at that, man, I said before.

1545
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: This is a level of creativity man like you're doing.

1546
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a slaging bang and trying to do my

1547
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: thing with it right now.

1548
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, oola that carry carry I get around.

1549
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he do look like your brother. They can't

1550
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: even tell the difference. Yeah right, yes, uh, that's how

1551
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: he pulled it off. Real force.

1552
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, real history going on around here. Eighty five

1553
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 5: South Show, New Face, Jo Winn, Jico, Benny, DC, Young

1554
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 5: Fly Money be good night, folks, Let's go