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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: The call is coming from inside the house.

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Speaker 2: No, ye.

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Speaker 1: Mean it means it's time to introduce our super producer,

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Speaker 1: mister Max Williams.

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Speaker 2: Is he the one calling from inside the house? You creep, Max,

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Speaker 2: Get out of my house.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I am the emergency call.

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Speaker 1: Of the heart.

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Speaker 4: Now you sure are?

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Speaker 1: That's that's what it means.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's that or good, but that's

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Speaker 4: just what I'm going with your regular emotional nine to eleven.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 4: I should find a different way to say that.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, that's our that's our man, the myth legend, mister

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Speaker 1: Noel Brown. They called me Ben Bullen in this neck

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Speaker 1: of the Global woods. And today we are looking at

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Speaker 1: one of the few telephone numbers that everyone knows and

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Speaker 1: that no one wants to call.

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Speaker 4: Is it eight six, seven, five, three nine, nine?

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Speaker 1: Oh Jenny, we got your number.

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Speaker 4: It's on the wall. That's kind of you know.

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Speaker 2: I never really thought about what the implications of that

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Speaker 2: until later in life. Does that mean it was written

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Speaker 2: on a bathroom stall? Does it go into detail anyway,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter you're here. It may be a figurative wall.

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Speaker 2: It may be the wall of true love. That is

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Speaker 2: not the number we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: We're also not talking about one eight blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: cars for kids, although I do have another side project

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Speaker 1: I'm working on with that and cars for kids. Just

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Speaker 1: so you guys know, is a conspiracy. No, yes, is

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Speaker 1: it as bad as kids for cars? It is worse

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Speaker 1: because it's real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so letting me down. No, I mean, I said,

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Speaker 2: Max is an emotional nine to eleven of the Heart

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Speaker 2: of the Mind, the movie The Ride. You know, some

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Speaker 2: people call it nine to eleven, I guess, but we

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Speaker 2: know it may be more. In the state says nine

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Speaker 2: one one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we all are familiar with the idea of

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Speaker 1: nine to one one. If you are a ridiculous historian

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Speaker 1: who has been who has spent any time in the

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Speaker 1: United States, in Canada, and as we'll see, in several

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Speaker 1: other countries, nine one one is one of the easiest

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Speaker 1: numbers to call in not just the United States, but

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Speaker 1: in Canada, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, Fiji, Jordan, Iraq, Mexico, Pakistan, Palau, Panama,

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Speaker 1: the Philippines. The list goes on Otama, Macau. Macau actually

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Speaker 1: has a different number that does the same thing.

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Speaker 2: As does the UK, which, if I'm not mistaken from

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Speaker 2: my brickcom experience, it's nine to nine to nine.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And originally Parliament broke out in raucous laughter about

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Speaker 1: it because it sounds like a German saying no three

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Speaker 1: times in a row.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'll always remember you guys, remember the

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Speaker 2: Little Rascals movie from the nineties. I think there's I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure it's from that movie. There's a character of

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Speaker 2: maybe Spanky or one of those other little rascals.

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Speaker 4: He says, what's the number for nine?

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Speaker 1: One one? Be careful with that joke.

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Speaker 4: It's adorable.

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Speaker 1: Careful with that joke. It's an antique. As they say,

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's barely a joke. It's an observation. There

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Speaker 1: are also other countries that may use like we said, nine,

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Speaker 1: nine nine or one one two one one two and

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Speaker 1: nine one one are the globally dominant emergency numbers now,

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Speaker 1: but the concept, as we're saying, is always the same,

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Speaker 1: A very short, simple series of digits that allow a

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Speaker 1: to in theory immediately connect with emergency services. You'll get

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Speaker 1: help on everything from forest fires to arson to car

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Speaker 1: accidents to injuries to more. We do want to start

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Speaker 1: off by saying in this episode at the very top,

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Speaker 1: sometimes people have different definitions of what constitutes an emergency.

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Speaker 1: Don't call nine to one one for shizzles and giggles.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's funny you say that.

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Speaker 2: I was literally just googling is it really illegal to

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Speaker 2: call nine to one one? And there's varying degrees of

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Speaker 4: I think you know you did it by accident. You

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Speaker 2: Whatever, I do remember calling back, they will call you

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Speaker 2: about to say, But what's been in the news a

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Speaker 2: lot lately is this concept of swatting, where people make

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Speaker 2: these elaborate prank nine to one one calls reporting Syria

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Speaker 2: crimes that result in swat teams being deployed, and it

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Speaker 4: Exactly. It's psyop, is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the other Other genres of that kind of

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Speaker 1: another one that's happened on the social media forum Reddit

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Speaker 1: quite often. Reddit has the option to report someone for

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Speaker 1: suicidal ideation, and so when people disagree with each other

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Speaker 1: on a Reddit, for them, they will sometimes frank. I

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Speaker 1: what I mean. They'll they'll report someone to get their

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the Brits, so one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: British comedies of all time, I'm as peep Show, which

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Speaker 2: an episode called sectioning where the characters take various times

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Speaker 2: report each other for mental illness, which is what is

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Speaker 2: referred to as having someone sections, whereas in these states

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Speaker 2: we'd call it having someone committed I guess. But the

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Speaker 2: episode's all about them basically prank sectioning each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because Peep Show is all about two really stand

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Speaker 1: up guys who happen to be wholesome and supportive roommates.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's not right, but I just see what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: It's a great show and one of my favorite characters

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Speaker 1: I'm still I forgive you writers a peep Show for

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Speaker 1: confusing me I've for years, which would also be raped

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Speaker 2: I love that too, because he's you know, sorry to

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Speaker 2: of like failed fake techno band, like like kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a great show. I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: folks honestly ridiculous historians. Due to my past, I have

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Speaker 4: I cringe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can. I can witness tremendous acts of violence,

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Speaker 1: like the kind of stuff you'd have to call nine

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Speaker 4: It's so funny. I just saw.

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Speaker 2: I've been I don't know, I'm really fascinated by these

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Speaker 2: So I've been listening and watching a lot of YouTube

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Speaker 2: kind of recaps of them, and one person was like,

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Speaker 2: It is the one particular moment of cringe because I

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hope I wasn't the one posting that. But

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Speaker 1: that's awesome because it also reminds me of the key

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Speaker 1: and Peal sketch that is descended from the Terrifier, which

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Speaker 1: is all about having a good attitude. I'll send it

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Speaker 4: Actually, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: We just talked about nine nine nine and the Brits

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Speaker 2: the creation of nine to one one. But before we

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Speaker 2: the United States of the nineteen sixties, when there was

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Speaker 4: And I was actually gonna ask you, Ben, does that

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Speaker 4: Because I don't even have a landline.

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Speaker 1: It depends on it depends on where you live and

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Speaker 1: are Weirdly enough, there are still rotary phones that are

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Speaker 1: They're typically more evolved than they were in the earlier days.

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Speaker 1: Like you were saying, Noel. In the earlier days, you

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Speaker 1: Marriage board right there immediately upon picking up, and then

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Speaker 1: previous episode on using barbed wires, phone lines. They were

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Speaker 2: A personal It was like a party line for a

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Speaker 2: But in large cities this was tough, oh, because they'd

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Speaker 1: Yeah, think about even in the nineteen sixties, really any

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Speaker 4: There is no one stop shop for any of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And in this fashion, up until the actually the late

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, the United States was pretty behind the global times.

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Speaker 1: The world's oldest emergency call service is not American at all.

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Speaker 1: It is British. It was launched in London on June thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty seven, two years after a tremendous tragedy London Town.

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Speaker 4: In a home on Wimpole Streets.

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Speaker 2: There was a horrible fire that led to the deaths

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Speaker 2: Norman McDonald's not the community used with our buddy Norm

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Speaker 2: Rip was a dentist who lived in the house on

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Speaker 2: the other side of the street. He tried to call

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Speaker 2: the or as they might stay in the UK ring

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Speaker 2: the fire brigade, and he was put on hold and

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Speaker 2: I do want to say that I only just recently,

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Speaker 2: for the first time and probably probably ever, had to

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Speaker 2: make a legitimate nine one one call. Here in Decatur, Georgia,

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Speaker 2: there was a guy who bailed out really horribly on

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Speaker 2: a dirt bike right outside my house and cracked a

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Speaker 4: It was one of the craziest things I've seen. But

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Speaker 4: I was on hold with nine to one one for

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Speaker 2: So let's not kid ourselves that things are like magically

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Speaker 4: So that's what I think of as well. Then that's

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Speaker 1: Remember when remember when we first got the phone number

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: Got we'll fast forward to June thirtieth, nineteen thirty seven.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, let's go with it.

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Speaker 1: So he says, look, we're going to make this new

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Speaker 4: Is this your theory, Ben the German thing?

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Speaker 1: Or do you read that somewhere this historical speculation?

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Speaker 4: This is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think the idea that maybe because of the

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Speaker 4: In fact, it's happened definitely.

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Speaker 1: Oh that makes me remember the Hitler meme. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: There's this great clip that for years the Internet has

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Speaker 2: To the situation room, Yeah, to being a document getting

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Speaker 1: He's plaiting and everybody just changes what the bad news is.

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Speaker 2: He gradually gets more and more enraged and it's one

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Speaker 2: it's almost like the meme of the people sitting at

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Speaker 1: Wrong, Yeah, yeah, yes, change my mind.

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Speaker 4: Very malleable. I love memes.

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Speaker 1: This, however, does not become a countrywide system just yet.

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Speaker 1: The initial nine to nine to nine operation or trial.

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Speaker 1: It covers about a twelve mile radius originating from Oxford Circus,

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Speaker 1: which is just to get in front of it for

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Speaker 1: That's a slow horses question. The circus is also a

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Speaker 4: That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: So the Joe's I love the Joe's Man, This show

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Speaker 1: Watch Joe's cover that.

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Speaker 4: He's my Joe. He's my Joe, all right, it's so good.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Gary Oldman, what a great one.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't need it, but we love you.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually I ordered the books. I'm going to read

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Speaker 2: To there's more books that have yet to be produced,

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Speaker 2: I believe too. There's you know, I'm sorry we're a

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Speaker 2: it still seems so under the radar. Those Apple shows

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Speaker 1: On amazing stuff. Yeah, shout out severance as well. So

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Speaker 1: the public has to be taught how to use this thing,

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Speaker 1: And they spend a great deal of time.

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Speaker 4: Bad campaign of some sort, right right.

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Speaker 1: Trying to teach the public what constitutes a serious emergency,

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Speaker 1: This is reported by our friends at the BBC. They said, if,

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Speaker 1: So they say, they say, you can, you can report suspicious,

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Speaker 2: Your keys, but also if you're doing a Jimmy store

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Speaker 4: Uh, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is definitely on the table. They might just think

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Speaker 4: And sorry, I recently watched her window.

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Speaker 1: It's a real Uh the eccentric who called wolf, situation

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: A favorite genre of this, we'll get to some of

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Speaker 1: you guys, it's when people call to report that someone

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Speaker 2: It's like, you can't call. If you're calling to report

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Speaker 1: But we know that, all right, We know that the

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Speaker 1: to use a central emergency number. Wasn't from the United States.

441
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Speaker 1: They're still behind in the game.

442
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: No, it was actually in Canada, when we're talking about

443
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Speaker 2: the continent of North America, Winnipeg, Manitoba in nineteen fifty nine.

444
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: This again came from some pretty serious urging from a

445
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: political fear whether or not he was getting an earfull.

446
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: From his constituents or whatever.

447
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 2: Mayor Steven Juba, which also for some reason appears to

448
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: be a very quintessentially Winnipegian name.

449
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna believe that.

450
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: But like the UK, Winnipeg originally used nine nine nine

451
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: as well for their emergency number, but then they decided

452
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: to walk in step.

453
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Speaker 4: With the US when they switched to nine one one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And in the United States, we'll see a series

455
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Speaker 1: of somewhat tragic events that, just like in the case

456
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Speaker 1: of the United Kingdom, that lead to the creation of

457
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Speaker 1: emergency phone numbers. In the US, there was this push

458
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Speaker 1: that came about post World War two nineteen fifty seven

459
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Speaker 1: from the National Association of Fire Chiefs, and they were

460
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: saying or echoing the same problem that we knew about,

461
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: which is, you know, how can you expect people in

462
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: an emergency to have the number of their local fire

463
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: department memorized. So they said, let's save some lives, let's

464
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: stop some fires, let's have a single number at least

465
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Speaker 1: for calling fire departments. And that people said, okay, that's

466
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: a good idea. Nice one, buddy, but they didn't really

467
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: act on it until again, just as in London, it

468
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: took a tragedy to push the idea forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little, but I know, a little trigger warning here.

470
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: We are going to talk about some sexual assaults, some

471
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: sexual violence, not in detail, but if that's triggering it,

472
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: I'll to you maybe just skip ahead about thirty seconds

473
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: or so. Nineteen sixty four is when the sexual assault

474
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: and murder of Kitty Genoviz took the public by storm

475
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: in New York City. It was at an absolute scandal

476
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 2: sensation like oj Simpson level galvanization of the public, and

477
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: subsequently the government to create a central emergency number.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of this came about because the

479
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: New York Times misreported part of the story. They said

480
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: everybody could hear Genevieve's crying for help during the commission

481
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: of these awful crimes, and that the people who heard

482
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: her in New York City looked out their windows and watched,

483
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: or closed their windows and ignored it. Yeah, apparently, well,

484
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: the Times, The New York Times said that there were

485
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: thirty eight bystanders who turned their back on this innocent

486
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: woman dying in such a horrific way. This would later

487
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: lead to the concept of what we call the bystander effect,

488
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: the bystander effect just for side note, folks, the bystander

489
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: effect is the inaction of people in groups when they

490
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: feel that they are observers. That's why you could see

491
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: it today when you look at public altercations or crimes

492
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: and you're wondering, why is it anyone helping? Why is

493
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: everybody on their phone right just filming?

494
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: It's that bubble effect. It's that sensation of being disconnected.

495
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not that these people are necessarily malicious.

496
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: It's a version of the fight eyereezer fawn also true. Yeah,

497
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: so the best way to get around that. By the way, folks,

498
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: we hope you never have to be in this situation.

499
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: But if you are resuscitating someone, or if you're trying

500
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: to staunch a wound, you are in a public space.

501
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: When you say called nine one one to someone never

502
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: say somebody called nine one one. You don't know if

503
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: anybody will. You point to someone, you make eye contact

504
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: and you say.

505
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 4: You do this or just do it, and you know.

506
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: Maybe there's also a sense with the bystander effective people

507
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: not wanting to get involved for personal reasons. Perhaps they're

508
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: concerned that it might get them in trouble or whatever.

509
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: This led to the creation of these things called good

510
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: Samaritan laws that are a sense actually a micro version

511
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: of immunity if you are participating in the reporting of

512
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: a crime or someone being in danger.

513
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, I love that you're bringing that up. A

514
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: good Samaritan law is something that offers legal protection to

515
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: someone who helps another person in distress. It means that

516
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: if you are if you are voluntarily helping someone who

517
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: is a victim of something, you cannot be later sued

518
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: for doing the wrong thing. Also, speaking of our pals

519
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Webb, I want to shout out their excellent

520
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: sketch and Mitchell Webb look about good Samaritans.

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00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: Do you remember that that one is not ringing a

522
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: bell right off the rim.

523
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: It's funny, you could tell David.

524
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: It always great. Oh, I love those guys.

525
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if anyone isn't familiar, they are also the

526
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: stars of Peep Show, and they have a sketch comedy

527
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: show called that Mitchell and Webb look that is also

528
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: worth your time.

529
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And speaking of the time, we know that

530
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: New York Times, for one reason or another got this

531
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: story wrong or embellished it. And later historians would have

532
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: a theory about this. They would say, maybe people weren't

533
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: calling police because it was so complex to do so.

534
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: Any calls that you made to the police, if you

535
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: knew the number, because there's not a nine to one

536
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: one number yet, they would go to a local precinct.

537
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: And any response that precincts could do would depend on

538
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: whether there was an individual sergeant or other ranking personnel

539
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: that might handle the call. Otherwise it might say, oh,

540
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: we've gone home for the day.

541
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: Well there's not You know, at anytime there's a sense

542
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: of futility, you know, for an act like that, people

543
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: are going to tend to not do the thing, not

544
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: to mention if it's come complicated or involves like too

545
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: much minutia or whatever.

546
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: It's important for the bear of entry.

547
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: For something as critical as reporting a crime or someone

548
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: in danger to be as low as possible.

549
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this, this conundrum is part of the reason

550
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: why there are different versions of good Samaritan laws around

551
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: the world. In some places they have a thing called

552
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: the duty to rescue law, which says that you are

553
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: legally required to try to help someone. It's tough to enforce.

554
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: Do we have that here?

555
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: Is that a thing? I've always wondered about that because

556
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: it does seem like it would require a lot of

557
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: legwork to prove that.

558
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have, we have good Samaritan here. Mexico has

559
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: duty to rescue, as does a lot of Western Europe.

560
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Speaker 4: But it's a lot of pressure, is what that is.

561
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't act, but I

562
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: almost wonder if that would be like paralyzing to some people.

563
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, especially if you are you know, you're

564
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: not trained up in things like CPR or the I

565
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: almost called the Heimlich maneuver. I almost called it the

566
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: van Helsing maneuver. That's a very different approach to.

567
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: The Jean Claud van dam maneuver. Right, right, this, so this.

568
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: Idea makes sense before, Like you were saying, no before

569
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, the only way to reach the police

570
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: was by dialing zero, hitting the operator in the switchboard

571
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: and hoping they were not too busy to transfer your call.

572
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

573
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: There was a lot of opportunity for communication breakdown. But

574
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty seven, the President's Commission on Law Enforcement

575
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: and Administrative Justice recommended creating one single number that could

576
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: be used across the entire nation for reporting these kinds

577
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: of emergencies.

578
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was all based on the public outcry

579
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: on the Genovies case. So the FCC won't let me

580
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: be or let me be met.

581
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: Kidding, The f went to something something something on MTV.

582
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: They went to AT and T, private company obviously super

583
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: in bed with the government, And in November of nineteen

584
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: sixty seven, the FCC and AT and T say, all right,

585
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: we've got to figure out a number that people can

586
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: call whenever there's a crisis. AT and T, not the

587
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: US government, not Uncle Sam. AT and T chose the

588
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: actual number, and they went with nine one one because

589
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: it was easy to memorize and they were still working

590
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: with rotary phones.

591
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: That's right.

592
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, do they like focus group this? Do

593
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: you think like, I mean, I understand what you're saying

594
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, like, why not why not one? One?

595
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: Why not twelve? Why not something that would require few?

596
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: But maybe it's what we were saying too earlier. This

597
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: is enough numbers where you couldn't do it by accidents.

598
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed three.

599
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: It makes sense because otherwise, if it was just one

600
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: misdial and then all of a sudden you got you're

601
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: getting flooded with with one two calls, you.

602
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Know, I mean yeah, dialing nine nine nine on a

603
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: rotary phone physically takes longer, and putting one as the

604
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: second digit in this pattern works pretty well with spatially, Yeah,

605
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: with the telephonic systems at the time, so they can

606
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: they can use that pattern that one is the second

607
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: digit to help prioritize things. But look, still Bell systems

608
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: while a monopoly in AT and T, while definitely still

609
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: a monopoly, they don't run everything. So independent phone companies

610
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: are not in the emergency telephone plan.

611
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: What's an independent phone company?

612
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: Is not really a thing anymore, exactly.

613
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm half joking, but it really is something.

614
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Even in our lifetime, I don't know that we had

615
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, mom and pop phone companies anymore, just mo Bell, Uh.

616
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: So some people chose to get ahead of the game.

617
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: We've got to give the flowers to Alabama. The ATC

618
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: Alabama Telephone Company said, all right, we're gonna do this,

619
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Speaker 1: but we're gonna We're not gonna wait for the big dogs.

620
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: We're going to go to Haleyville, Alabama. That's gonna be

621
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: our location for our nine to one one service. So

622
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: the first US emergency call service is made in Alabama.

623
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: It's a nine to one one service, and the first

624
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: call is made in nineteen sixty eight by the then

625
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Speaker of the House rank and fit by the names,

626
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: and then it's a test call. It's an ahoy HOI.

627
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: I was gonna say today, say AHIHI.

628
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: To US Rep. Tom Bevel. And then later same year

629
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Speaker 1: it's March first, nineteen sixty eight. AT and T gets

630
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: their system rolled out partially in Huntington, Alabama.

631
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Speaker 4: That's right.

632
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy three, the White House's Office of Telecommunication

633
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: issued a national statement that supported the use of nine

634
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: one one and pushed to take any and further by

635
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: establishing a Federal Information Center to kind of help with

636
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: the logistics of all of it, to assist government agencies

637
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: and rolling the system out nationally.

638
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and again we see some statements, but are

639
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: those statements going to lead to action or is it

640
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: sound and fury signify nothing. A full national rollout of

641
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: nine to one one would take years and years, and

642
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: it's still to our earlier point, unevenly distributed for much

643
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: of this time. The city of Chicago had nine to

644
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: one one service as early as nineteen seventy six, but

645
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: the Illinois Commerce Commission didn't let this get to the

646
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: suburbs of Chicago until nineteen eighty one.

647
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: We're holding back in the offering nine to one one

648
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: to her customers. That's crazy, That is a little bit nutting.

649
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: By nineteen seventy nine, we had a pretty big boom time,

650
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: with twenty six percent of the US population having access

651
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: to nine one one. This continued exponentially over the course

652
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: of the next decade or so, as it increased to

653
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: fifty percent by nineteen eighty seven, and then ninety three

654
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: percent by the year two thousand. What's that extra eight

655
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: percent there or seven ten percent there in two thousand.

656
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 4: That didn't have nine one one in two thousand.

657
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Right, right? And then people are still working to improve

658
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Speaker 1: the system. It is very rural thing.

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Speaker 4: It has to be just rural, right, I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: definitely often.

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Speaker 1: And so as of March of twenty twenty two, we're

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Speaker 1: happy to report ninety eight point nine percent of the

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Speaker 1: US population had access.

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Speaker 4: But where's that one point one percent?

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Speaker 2: I got to know who these one point one percent

666
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Speaker 2: of the population are that don't have access to nine

667
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: one one?

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Speaker 1: And are they Okay, we will never know, guess not.

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Speaker 1: That's a terrible thing.

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Speaker 4: They're truly the forgotten one point.

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Speaker 1: Someone in the hinterlands of Alaska. Maybe yeah, they make

672
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Speaker 1: a very remote area.

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Speaker 4: That has to be it.

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Speaker 1: And there are still vast swaths of the interior of

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Speaker 1: the United States that don't have, you know, cell coverage,

676
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: so that could explain part of it. Look, the modern

677
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: system is a marvel of engineering and coordination. There is

678
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: no question it saved millions of lives. The technology is

679
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: continuing to evolve. We see all sorts of new innovations,

680
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: like the ability to just text nine to one one

681
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: from your cell phone, Like have you ever done that?

682
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever? If you have an iPhone? You may

683
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: have accidentally but the wrong urgency and it's like, do

684
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: you want to make an emergency co ops.

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00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: I actually once said by but did that? And then

686
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: I butt said yes, And then I got a call

687
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: from from emergency services, and I think I answered the

688
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: phone and just apologize. But I did look up, like

689
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Speaker 2: where in the US do people not have access to

690
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: nine one one? And of course what comes up right

691
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: away is parts of Alaska or again Washington State, Idaho, Wyoming,

692
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Speaker 2: North and South Dakota or Montana. But despite that, you

693
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: did mention that some of these places are also places

694
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: that are gonna have spotty cell signal. It's a little

695
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: bit of a different game because of what you're talking about,

696
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: the access through cell carriers to reach to reach emergency

697
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: services despite where you are physically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the system continues to be improved upon. We

699
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Speaker 1: hope you never have to call the numbers. We hope

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Speaker 1: you do remember the numbers in your neck of the

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Speaker 1: Global Woods.

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Speaker 4: What's the order for nine to one one?

703
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Speaker 1: I think it starts with a two. We want to

704
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Speaker 1: take a moment to thank all the first responders and

705
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: nine to one one operators. Your service is often unsung.

706
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: We know that, like we have a loose abstract idea

707
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: of how incredible least stressful this could be uh. And

708
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: if you have ever worked in you know, even even

709
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: a call center, right, a non emergency call center, you

710
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: know that it can be a tremendously stressful job.

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00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: And and on nine one one, much like on these

712
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: call centers, they're operating from a set of protocols as well,

713
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: and so they might sometimes not react the way you

714
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: would like them to when you're under duress, because it

715
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: is it is part of their mandate to go through

716
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Speaker 2: this checklist of questions that might.

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Speaker 4: Seem irrelevant, and maybe they are whatever, like whatever.

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00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: That's right, But it's just they are just they are

719
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: trained to do that, and they are being recorded and monitored,

720
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Speaker 2: as we know when we have a big public crime

721
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Speaker 2: and we hear those nine to one one tapes.

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Speaker 4: So these people are under a lot of scrutiny.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying there aren't operators nine one one operators

724
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Speaker 2: out there that don't do a great job. That's certainly

725
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: we've seen plenty of cases of that with stuff they

726
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: But by and large, you're right, Ben, these people are

728
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Speaker 1: doing God's work. Yeah, I agree with you there. We

729
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Speaker 1: also want to end this episode. We're keeping it at

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Speaker 1: one part with a couple of things. First off, thank

731
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Speaker 1: you again to Norman McDonald who, almost a century ago

732
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Speaker 1: out there in London decided something needed to be done

733
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Speaker 1: about this problem. Writing and making your voice heard does

734
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Speaker 1: make a difference. This guy made a huge difference. Something

735
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Speaker 1: like this probably would have happened, but it happened the

736
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Speaker 1: time it did because of this guy's strength of character.

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Speaker 2: It's a good note for all of us to remember

738
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Speaker 2: too that despite how things may feel sometimes, you know,

739
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Speaker 2: government wise, you know overwhelming, like how can I possibly

740
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Speaker 2: change anything? If you start small and like make a

741
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Speaker 2: suggestion at your local level, you know, go to like

742
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Speaker 2: a community you know, town hall or whatever it is,

743
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Speaker 2: you know, organize around a local commissioner or whatever to

744
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Speaker 2: get something done. There are plenty of success stories of

745
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: things like that that oftentimes can spread outward to the bigger,

746
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: greater picture, you know, of the country that you live in.

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Speaker 4: So don't don't be despaired, y'all.

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Speaker 1: The way I always enjoy it is this think global,

749
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Speaker 1: act local, just because it rives.

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Speaker 2: But you know, people also say, like think globally, shop

751
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: locally or even I've seen people say meme locally. You know,

752
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: how I follow who does Athens, Georgia based memes, and

753
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: his tagline on his account is think globally, meme locally,

754
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: which I think is delightful.

755
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Speaker 1: So yeah, pee locally, poop globally whatever.

756
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Speaker 4: Well that's or vice versa depending on the day.

757
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Speaker 2: But Ben you you you found a handful of really fun,

758
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: pretty lighthearted examples of nine to one one calls gone awry.

759
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is the thing we want to add

760
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: on here, just so we have a bit of levity.

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Speaker 1: After thinking all the first responders and emergency call operators,

762
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Speaker 1: we want to share with you just a few examples

763
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Speaker 1: of how cartoonishly people can have a different definition of emergency.

764
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Speaker 1: This your butt dial story stands out because there was

765
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Speaker 1: a situation in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah, burglar in Shelby County, Ohio was caught by

767
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Speaker 2: police when he accidentally butt dialed nine to one one

768
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Speaker 2: while breaking into a home with the intent of robbing it.

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Speaker 4: Making matters worse when.

770
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Speaker 2: The cops showed up, he hid in a closet and

771
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Speaker 2: then you know, charge your phone, bro it went ding

772
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Speaker 2: ding or put that on silent man, what a sloppy

773
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: crook low battery alarm went off, which you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on.

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00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: Man, it's twenty twenty four. Let's let's put our phones on.

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Speaker 1: Silent, always have your photo on silence.

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Speaker 4: It's just the right thing to do.

778
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Speaker 1: Do not disturb as default, you know what I mean,

779
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Speaker 1: text in advance. If someone calls me today, I assume

780
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Speaker 1: it's an emergent.

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00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: One has died.

782
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're getting some of this from readers digest.

784
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Speaker 1: You can find some excellent threads across the internet from

785
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: first responders and nine to one one operators themselves. But

786
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Speaker 1: we're again, we're just sharing some of the lighthearted ones

787
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Speaker 1: to the earlier drug example. All right, there's this guy

788
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Speaker 1: in Lincoln, Nebraska who comes back to his house one

789
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: day and he finds someone has robbed his house and

790
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: they have insults upon injury, stolen his favorite hookah pipes.

791
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and whilst you go ahead and laugh out there

792
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: in ridiculous historian land. But people that are really into

793
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: that stuff, No, those things can be very very valuable,

794
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: very expensive, like a really expensive glassware or whatever. It's

795
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Speaker 2: a whole niche kind of you know, market unto itself,

796
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Speaker 2: and they may very well have been out one thousand

797
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: dollars for the right kind of bomb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he clearly had an emotional attachment. So he

799
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Speaker 1: calls nine to one one and the law the first responders,

800
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: law enforcement shows up because it's a report of a burglary, right,

801
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: it's their job to show up. And then when they

802
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: get there, Nol, they find that he grows all smell. Yeah,

803
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: he grows a lot of cannabis.

804
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Speaker 2: A lot of pot plants not legal in Lincoln, Nebraska. Also,

805
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: this was in the era where it wasn't really legal

806
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: most anywhere. But yeah, he did end up kind of

807
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: telling on himself. He must have been stoned when he

808
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: made the call in the first place. Bong Ye, stoned

809
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: and heartbroken. I bet he had a cute name for

810
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: the hooka pipes.

811
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Speaker 4: Too, probably bomb Bongie.

812
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Speaker 1: Yeah we've got one. We've got another win from our

813
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Speaker 1: own home state of Georgia.

814
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Speaker 4: Yeah we do. And it's not pronounced Dacula as much

815
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Speaker 4: as we'd like it to be.

816
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Speaker 2: It's if you've ever driven around on I twenty in

817
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Speaker 2: the Atlanta area, like going towards I believe it's on east,

818
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: but you'll pass a place called Dacula. Counts Dacula, but

819
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Speaker 2: it's Tekula, Georgia or Tequila perhaps it felt like Dracula.

820
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: It sure is.

821
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a spooky, spooky.

822
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Speaker 2: Town, as evidenced by this tale of a woman contacting

823
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Speaker 2: police when her Chevy van went missing.

824
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Speaker 4: What could be spookier than that? At least it wasn't

825
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 4: an odyssey, right Ben?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Later that day, the woman called back to report that

829
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Speaker 2: the vehicle had been found.

830
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Speaker 4: Where was it found?

831
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: Then?

832
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Speaker 4: Where was the vehicle?

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Speaker 1: It was in her yard. She just had a really

834
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Speaker 1: atrucious yard. So apparently she or someone parked it in

835
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Speaker 1: their yard behind tall weeds.

836
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Speaker 2: Or maybe she just hadn't driven it in a while

837
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Speaker 2: and the weeds literally grew up around it over the skin,

838
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: you know, I mean sure, So she was probably stone too,

839
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Speaker 2: and she made the call.

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Speaker 1: It feels like there's a lot of story between the

841
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Speaker 1: lines on that one. We'll hand on this. There's a

842
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: guy who Okay, there is a known issue with some people,

843
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: perhaps driven by loneliness, perhaps a mental situation, perhaps paranoia.

844
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Speaker 1: There are people who are regulars calling nine to one

845
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Speaker 1: one when there's not what nine to one one would

846
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: consider an emergency, like not domestic abuse, it's just you know,

847
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: someone's a lukie loo and they're consistently reporting things.

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Speaker 2: That they think are suspicious, and there may be mental

849
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: health issues at play here. So I would think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, what I did look up in terms of,

851
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, when is it crossing the line to abuse

852
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Speaker 2: or to misuse nine one one, And it is on

853
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: a case by case basis, so I would imagine they

854
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: would be able to be like, oh, poor old mister

855
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: Wilson and he's calling again asking for a pack of smokes.

856
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: He doesn't mean any harm.

857
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: And after a certain point, if it really is clogging

858
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: up the resource, then something probably has to be done.

859
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: But the thing is, though, you also can't like block

860
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 2: them from calling nine to one one because they could

861
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: eventually have a genuine emergency. You know, you can't take

862
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: away people's nine to one one privileges.

863
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: And sometimes we see this happen in medical facilities as well.

864
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: Somebody may just continually go to you are with no

865
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Speaker 1: you know, discernible emergency medical situation. Right, Yeah, So this

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Speaker 1: takes us to one example of this. A guy in Canada,

867
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Speaker 1: in a town called Lundar made a bunch of calls

868
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Speaker 1: to nine to one one and eventually, since we said

869
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: it's a case by case basis, the operators say, okay, okay, Bud, listen,

870
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: then you gotta stop calling. There are real emergencies, and

871
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: every time that we are dealing with your frivolous stuff,

872
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: we are risking the lives of other people. So if

873
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: you call again, this is your last warning. If you

874
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: call one more time, you are going to go to

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Speaker 1: jail for exploiting this system. And then he said, well,

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Speaker 1: if you're coming to get me, can you bring along

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Speaker 1: some cigarettes? Well that's my real reason for calling. He

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Speaker 1: called nine to one one the way people would call

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Speaker 1: like a friend coming over, or like the way a

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00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: drunk person would ask the Uber eats guy to bring

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Speaker 1: some stuff back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, poor guy, he's probably just lonely, didn't have

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Speaker 2: anybody that would bring him a pack of smokes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can you only imagine too that there are examples

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Speaker 2: of people calling nine.

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Speaker 4: One one as well, just to have their company, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Like the world can be a

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00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: lonely place, Yes it can.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, So we said we were going to end on

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Speaker 4: an upnote, but here we are.

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Speaker 2: It's true though, you know, hey, check on your folks,

893
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 2: check check on your elderly.

894
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Speaker 1: And here's our up. Here's our up note for this.

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Speaker 1: We are a community and we're so glad you have

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00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: joined us. You know, one thing I can say about podcasting,

897
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: as imperfect and new a genre of media as it is,

898
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Speaker 1: is that I think it does unite people, hopefully in

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Speaker 1: a largely wholesome way.

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Speaker 2: Would I would like to think largely wholesome. We keep it,

901
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 2: keep it largely wholesome. Here on Ridiculous, Sister, they were

902
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: at least medium wholesome.

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Speaker 1: Pep Max, you had something on your mind.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Just leave with a funny story to uh end this episode.

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Speaker 3: So one of my best friends of all time, her

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Speaker 3: name's Chelsea. She was a emergency call dispatcher for a

908
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: number of years, very stressful dub. She she eventually left

909
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: it because she's just like, I can't do this weird

910
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: hour and stuff like that. But throughout the time she

911
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: would tell me some of the weirdest ones she got.

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Speaker 3: And one one night, it was a call from a

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Speaker 3: couple they had, you know, been doing some things in

914
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: the bedroom and we're just trying to be very vague

915
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Speaker 3: about what the problem was. My friend Chelsea's like, hey, ma'am,

916
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: I really need to know what's wrong with your partner

917
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Speaker 3: to figure out what it is, and say, well, we

918
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 3: were trying some you know, I'm gonna try to get

919
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: this a little cleaner.

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00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: But let's just say something was stuck in his bill.

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Speaker 1: But I think we got your drifts there. Yeah, cheeky,

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Speaker 1: but I get it very chea.

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Speaker 2: And then the next part of that story is the

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Speaker 2: attending physician at the er, you know, looking at a

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00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: X ray with like a lego.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, why how has that become a tropech.

927
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Speaker 4: Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: Chelsea told me that they had to inject a good

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Speaker 3: bit of muscle relaxers into.

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Speaker 2: Him, could have given him some poppers. Namy, gosh, we

931
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Speaker 2: said we were going to keep it PG.

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Speaker 1: Well, as that's fine as long as we don't explain

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Speaker 1: the poppers thing, So look it up on your own.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in. Everybody, stay safe

935
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Speaker 1: out there. And again, the biggest thing for us to

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Speaker 1: end on with is we've got a lot of ridiculous

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Speaker 1: historians in the audience today who are first responders or

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Speaker 1: who do work with the nine to one one system

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Speaker 1: or another emergency call system, maybe a mental health system,

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Speaker 1: things like that. Thank you, so much for your service.

941
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Speaker 1: And while we're thanking people, let's roll some credits. Thanks

942
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Speaker 1: to our super producer, mister Max Williams.

943
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Speaker 2: Indeed, thanks to Alex Williams who composed our theme, Chris

944
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: for Hasiotis and Eve's Jeffcoat here and Spirit.

945
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Speaker 1: Big big thanks to Gabe Lucier first of his name.

946
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true, but I feel like

947
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Speaker 1: saying this entirely likely. Yeah, let's see. Thanks to of course,

948
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Speaker 1: our rude dudes over at Ridiculous Crime, Elizabeth Zarin and Dave.

949
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Speaker 1: You can check out a couple of collaboration episodes we

950
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: have with them. Oh thanks to our pals at Daily

951
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Zeitgeist who started doing video episode.

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00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: Ah.

953
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 4: Good for them. Maybe maybe we'll get there one day,

954
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: maybe we'll join the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: Huge thanks to the quiz Stara Jonathan Stricklan. He will

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Speaker 2: be on before the end of the year, maybe definitely

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Speaker 2: early on record.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we could say, but.

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Speaker 2: I think we do a holiday Let's do a holiday

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00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: episode with that old quizter.

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Speaker 4: Also thanks to A. J. Bahamas Jacobs the Puzzler and.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to doctor Rachel Big Spinach Lance. Thanks again to you, Noel.

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Speaker 1: This was this was good? I think we kept it wholesome.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear everybody's favorite whimsical nine to one

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Speaker 1: one calls over on our Facebook page, Ridiculous Historians.

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Speaker 4: That's right, and we'll see you next time, folks.

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Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.