1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Ay, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Jerry's here too, sitting in per day 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: and this is stuff you should know. And we're here 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: to answer a perennial question that everyone wants to know, 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: just why in the gosh darn heck do we make 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: ourselves scared on purpose? 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? Here, scary, real quick, do something. Let's do a 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: little exercise. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: You're starting to look old. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, really scary, say boo or something. 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's gonna scare you more. Yeah, yeah, okay, boo. 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh boy. As it turns out, that 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: was really exhilarating and I feel great now. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you overcame a fear, a real threat. 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. It is an interesting question though, And thanks to 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: our old friends at housetf works dot com as well 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: as Psychology Today and the American Brain Foundation, who have 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: all as well as other places, looked into that weird 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: question of like you were talking about, like why would 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: anybody pay to go into a truly terrifying haunted house 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: or a truly terrifying movie. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: And like, yeah, we all know anecdotally or personally why, 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: but like if you step back and look at it 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: from you know, a rational standpoint. It makes zero sense whatsoever, 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Like we're purposefully stimulating a what's meant to be like 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: an unpleasant experience, a pleasant response in ourselves. 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you know. We'll get into that in 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: a second. We need to sort of delineate though, like 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: what we're talking about. We did an episode on fear 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: a while back. It's a long time ago. I think 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: it was pretty good on if I remember correctly. But 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: we're not talking about anxiety, Like there's anxiety and there's fear. 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: Anxiety is the stuff that keeps you up at night, 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: like existential threats or am I getting old? Or is 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: our country being ruined? Or is there illumining war coming 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: to our country? Like things that haven't happened yet that 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: you're truly upset and anxious about. Is not the same 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: thing as as of something that is like somebody jumping 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: out and saying boost something that happens right in front 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: of your. 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Face, exactly right, So you got that, And fear is 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: about something jumping out right in front of your face. 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: It's about like an immediate threat to your well being, 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: maybe your life, and it triggers the fight or flight response. 45 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: So a little more about that. When you have the 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: fight or flight response, your pulse increases, your blood pressure increases, 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: you just get ready to run or fly, which is 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: the only time you can fly is when you're scared. 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: That's right. There have been people that research this stuff. 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: There's a book that we want to shout out called 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Scream Scream with an exclamation point from Margie Key and 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: her colleague doctor Greg Siegel, who is director for the 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: Cognitive Neuroscience Program at University of Pittsburgh. But they their 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: description of what we're talking about, like paying to go 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: to a haunted house or something or a really scary movie, 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: as voluntary engagement with negative high arousal stimuli. So in 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: other words, it's like, yeah, I'll give you my hard 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: earned dollars to go into nether world in October and 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: because the thrill of getting the doo doo scared out 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: of me is like I enjoy that experience. 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Yes, So yeah, that's a great, great term for it. 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: I say, we take a little break, Chuck, and then 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: we come back and we go step by step how 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: this whole thing goes. 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it, okay, Chuck. 67 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: So we're talking about fun scary, not fun anxiety. I 68 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: don't think there is such a thing really as fun anxiety. 69 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's like an existential or elevated 70 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: horror movie like that develops a sense of dread. Yeah, okay, 71 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: but it so rarely pays off in a good way. 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I don't know there's a good version of it. 73 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: So we're talking like scary the fun version, right. And 74 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: one of the main reasons why we do this, it 75 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: turns out, is because we feel a sense of mastery 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: over this thing that overwhelms us, because we're choosing to 77 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: do this. That's step one. We're choosing to experience this 78 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: scary thing. And by saying like I'm choosing to do this, 79 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: although of course you don't do this step by step, 80 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: it just kind of happens. You're saying like, I'm in control, 81 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm in charge. Yeah, I'm going into the scary haunted house. 82 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: But it's on the premise that I'm not actually going 83 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: to be stabbed. This rating guy, he's just going to 84 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: come up like he's about to say me, but he's 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: not going to follow through. Some part of me knows. 86 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I mean that's always in the back of 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: your head. When you walk into a situation like that, 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm gonna be fine. It's not like the 89 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: thrill that you get when somebody jumps out of the 90 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: shadows to you know, with a gun to mug you. 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: Not what we're talking about. So that's the first step, 92 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: is you're like acknowledging that you're choosing to do this 93 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: head on, so you've got some mastery. And then then 94 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: the scare happens, whatever that might be, whether it's a 95 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: movie or you know, a haunted house. I'm trying to 96 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: this seems like the obvious ones. I'm trying to think 97 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: of other ways. I guess maybe a scary roller coaster 98 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: or something. If that's a big fear. 99 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Sure. 100 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's when the fight or flight kicks in 101 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: and you're just flooded with you know, some really eventually 102 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: feel good stuff that dopamine and oxytocin and endorphins start firing, 103 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: and our our heart rate increases obviously, and our breathing 104 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: and our blood pressure and everything. So that's it's like 105 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: an exhilarating experience like biologically for your body, right. 106 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: So, yes, like you're you're amped I guess is the 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: way to put it. You know. 108 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, what did the kids say these days today? Digg 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: any toilet, skivitty toilet. By the way, I like diggity toilet. 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: Let's start a new thing, right boy? That six seven 111 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: thing went away like quicker than I've ever seen anything 112 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: go away. 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: I was reading a book last yesterday. It was Crime 114 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: and Punishment. And I'm not just saying this just to 115 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: show everybody. I'm reading Crime and Punishment, But somebody mentioned 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: something being like sixes and sevens and I couldn't tell 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: from the context what they were talking about. Still, I 118 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: think it was kind of positive or something like that. 119 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: But I was like, is that where that came from originally? 120 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: Or is it just coincidence? 121 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: That was coincidence because they coincidence because they know where 122 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: it came from, which I want for you to tell 123 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: you that. 124 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: Well, it was a basketball play being interviewed. But where 125 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: did he. 126 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: Get Yeah, oh, I think it just came out of 127 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: nowhere and it just caught on. But my whole point 128 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: was that thing went away like in a matter of weeks. 129 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: I think as soon as all the parents started doing it, 130 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: like every small child. Like I'm talking people my daughter's 131 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: age and younger were like, no, like I did it 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: one time. She was like, ah, no, one does that. 133 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like that's a valuable lesson. If we 134 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: are ever all annoyed by something that the younger to 135 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: get into it, I think we just start saying it 136 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: our stuff just adopted ourselves for a week. 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I love it. That's a good We 138 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: should test that out. But the next stupid thing comes along. Okay, 139 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: you got it all right? So where were we? Fight 140 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: or flight? Yes? 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're in fight or flight mode. I feel 142 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: bad for the poor person who were describing because they've 143 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: been stuck in fireflight mode the whole time we were 144 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, toilet's true. But we're back, person, so 145 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: don't worry because now your body, your parasympathetic nervous system 146 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: kicks in. Is like, cool out, everybody. Let's just mellow out. 147 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Nothing actually happened. The threat is gone, and you can 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: just feel great. You can feel relaxed, you can feel 149 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: maybe even a sense of giddiness. You know, yeah, because 150 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: you're experiencing something that you still it's a it's a 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: transition between still having your fight or flight response going 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: and the parasympathetic things starting to kick in and take over. 153 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: And while they're kind of those levels are adjusting, it's 154 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: a very specific, unique, fun kind of feeling. 155 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And you can see that step literally 156 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: coinciding with the next benefit rather, which is like you know, 157 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: you're almost always doing this with like friends and family 158 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: or something like you're out to have a good time 159 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: with a group maybe or a small group, so you're 160 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: building like a bond of an experience that will scary 161 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: that you share together. And like you see it when 162 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: people are exiting nether World or when they're coming off 163 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: of that roller coaster, this almost euphoria of the shared 164 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: experience that everyone has and you're all talking about it like, 165 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, that one part, that one room where 166 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: the guy had the chainsaw and I saw like on 167 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: your face like you were about to dodo in your pants, 168 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: and it's like it's exhilarating. It's a it's like a 169 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: high that you can see everyone like reliving the experience 170 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: together in this bond that they created that's just like 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: super fun. 172 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is that guys. I mean you mentioned oxytocin 173 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: being released. That would explain that bonding, you. 174 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, for sure. 175 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: And also sometimes you'll like press your face into the 176 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: chest of the whoever. 177 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: You're with, hopefully the person that you're with, right, Sometimes 178 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: those places are dark. 179 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: For sure. 180 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: You don't want to you don't want to do that 181 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: to a perfect stranger. 182 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: No, you're like, oh, you smell like onions. You're not 183 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: my friend. 184 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: My friend smells like cheese, so. 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, foot cheese. 186 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: Oh god. 187 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: So there's that feeling of catharsis. There's another I think 188 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: great point too, in addition to that whole feeling of 189 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: catharsis that comes from going through that rigormarole, and that 190 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: is like you're in a that scare place that you 191 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: put yourself in on purpose, right, the voluntary engagement with 192 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: negative high arisal stimuli. It's a place where you are 193 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: it's socially acceptable to do something like scream your head off, yeah, 194 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and just let out stress. And that's a huge function 195 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: that those play as well. That's scaring ourselves play as well, 196 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: especially say like a roller coaster. 197 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Like you know, there's primal scream therapy. 198 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: But a lot of people would say like, well that 199 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: seems pretty weird. But that same person might go to 200 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: a haunted house and scream their head off because it's 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: like a socially acceptable thing to do. And if you're 202 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: someone who is, maybe you have like real life anxiety, 203 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: or maybe you have work in a place or in 204 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: a situation in your life where you always have to 205 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: maintain like a very high level of decorum. Yeah, and 206 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: you know, go to another world. They should sponsor this thing, 207 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: by the. 208 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Way, I think so too. That's a great idea. 209 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: We should re release this in October and see if 210 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: we can get another world on board. I don't go 211 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: to those. Did you go to those? No? 212 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: Too scary for me? 213 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I haven't been to a real haunted 214 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: house like that. I don't think ever. I think the 215 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: last haunted house I went to was in la Like 216 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: these people got together and did these really really high 217 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: quality ones in the neighborhood a couple over. But I'd 218 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: never paid to go into like the truly horrifying ones. 219 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: I haven't either, But it's not because I'm too scared. 220 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: I was kidding about that. 221 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: Why is it, you know, walk around in the dark 222 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 2: with a bunch of strangers that might put their head 223 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: in your chest? I don't. 224 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 225 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: There's one either, let's go to one this year. 226 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay, there's one here if you're willing to come down 227 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: some Universal Horror Nights. I think it's supposed to be 228 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: really good. 229 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: Is you me into that kind of thing? 230 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: No? 231 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: No, she doesn't like Peters Emily. All right, they can 232 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: wait outside while we go through. 233 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 1: Yes, that's fine. They'll have fun doing that. 234 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 235 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: They'll drink lemonade out of those big giant novelty plastic linens. 236 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 237 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: I guess that's it for short stuff. 238 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: Hun Yeah, I think that means we're out. Stuff you 239 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. 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