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Speaker 2: It's time nice hell level love, no and low and

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Speaker 2: low and lovel loo. Welcome to the Naughty Venaisia and

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Speaker 2: your house from Shooter. And it is Thursday, which means

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Speaker 2: our dear friend markle Loop, who joins us, Hey Lupy

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Speaker 2: are you there?

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Speaker 3: Luppy lewis here hera?

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Speaker 1: Hey Loopy lou Let's jump into the show. We've got

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Speaker 1: to tell Usip to get to what damn is it?

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Speaker 1: My friends at tea time? Really a sweet story at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show. So this is going to

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Speaker 1: sound a little mean, but it's not mean. It's very

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Speaker 1: very sweet. So Ariana Grande allegedly urged and look alike

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Speaker 1: to stop copying her, but it was done Ada Love.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain. So Arianna reportedly engaged with a viral

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Speaker 1: lookerlike her name is Paige and she said embrace your

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Speaker 1: own identity in a private message that has since been

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Speaker 1: made public page We know who made that public? Any

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Speaker 1: two people in this message. Although I've got admit if

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Speaker 1: Madonna sent me a DM, I would tell everybody. I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what would I Mark? Would you? Because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin that friendship. But there's not

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Speaker 1: really a friendship there. We'll get to that in a moment. So,

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Speaker 1: in any case, Page has clearly leaked this message, so oh,

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Speaker 1: here it is. According to Paige, there it is. The

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Speaker 1: singer said that she was flattered by the attention, but

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Speaker 1: reminded the influencer this is where it gets really sweet.

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Speaker 1: She's already beautiful without trying to resemble someone else. Now,

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Speaker 1: the alleged message encouraged Page to find herself while acknowledging

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Speaker 1: that what she ultimately does is up to her. I

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Speaker 1: think this is really very sweet. There's some people could

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Speaker 1: say that Arianna just doesn't want people online impersonating her.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want people There's a huge business out there

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Speaker 1: in impersonations. Recently, Nicki Gostin our friend Nicki at page

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Speaker 1: six and I went to see and person Eliza Minnelli impersonator.

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Speaker 1: It was really funny. Liza, does it make a dollar

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Speaker 1: from that show? She's not making a cent from that show.

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Speaker 1: So was Arianna being a little bit jealous or was

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Speaker 1: this just a really sweet thing to do? What do

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Speaker 3: It's a great question, and I can appreciate an ippreconation

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Speaker 3: of any even you know, elvis or whoever. But when

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Speaker 3: I did a deep dive into this, I was shocked

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Speaker 3: at how this woman has become Ariana Grande.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's too much.

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Speaker 3: It's the inflections, it's the mannerism, it's everything. And I

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Speaker 3: think it's beyond like making money off this, and it's

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Speaker 3: become like she's absorbed the identity and it's weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you might be on something here.

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Speaker 1: Because I watched a lot of the videos, to too

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Speaker 1: many of them, I forgot it was not Arianna. It

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Speaker 1: is so Arianna now obviously her friends, it's that Frankie.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's the brother who was said to assist

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Speaker 1: the Look at these videos and she just watched them,

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Speaker 1: and there is something a little sad about it, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is somebody just making a living

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Speaker 1: turning up at bar mitzvahs and birthday parties just singing

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Speaker 1: that's really good to really get to in your life.

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Speaker 1: It takes a minute. We all don't want to be

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Speaker 1: Ariana Grandee, but often we don't want to be ourselves

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Speaker 1: because we don't know who we are. When you get

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Speaker 1: was not this confidence, handsome, sexy fella that's talking to

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Speaker 1: you right now. It took me, Mark, what about you?

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Speaker 1: How long? What sort of age did you get comfortable

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Speaker 3: moved to New York City and it's over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, straight away, You're done. You're very lucky. You're very,

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Speaker 1: are beauty. I've seen pictures of her without the Ariana drag,

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Speaker 1: This is not this is not just like an obsession

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Speaker 1: that's fun. I saw an Abba reunion group. Clearly it

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Speaker 1: like it. I have no problems with this, but nobody

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Speaker 1: If there was a Mark looper out there?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to imagine someone wanting to emulate

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Speaker 1: Way past today. I can imagine everybody. But listen, as we.

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Speaker 3: Both kind of respect the bag. We like to make

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Speaker 1: I like the money, and there's worse ways to make

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Speaker 1: to a pole question of the day. Arianna is encouraging

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Speaker 1: Is this naughty or is it nice? What is Arianna?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't put it under the naughty or the nicer

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Speaker 1: the day because I didn't quite know which one. This is?

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Speaker 1: Is Arianna trying to shut down somebody who's making a fortune.

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Speaker 1: By talking, walking, singing, looking like her or is she

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Speaker 1: being really sweet? And there is a message here about

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Speaker 1: don't be me, be you. Don't be a second rate me,

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Speaker 1: a subtype maybe after the third rate Ariana that the

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Is it naughty or is it nice?

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Speaker 1: Hega vote on our Twitter page at naughty nice rob

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Speaker 1: Our facebook page is naughty gossip and miss Sure to

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Speaker 1: check back tom Arawa here your results. Hey Loopy lou,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on?

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this one.

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Speaker 3: Rob So Dennis Didty's twin daughters have launched a fashion

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Speaker 3: brand despite their father's prison sentence. Let me explain. So

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Speaker 3: Didty's twin daughters, Jesse and dalil La Combs, are stepping

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Speaker 3: are focused on building their own future seeing their father's

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Speaker 3: legal troubles are separate from their personal journey. Now, the

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Speaker 3: twins have revealed they began planning this brand years before

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Speaker 1: It's just tone death mark of all the managers. You

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Speaker 1: couldn't wait a you to do this until it gets

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Speaker 1: to your nineteen one more year? Is it gonna hurt you?

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Speaker 1: And you've got no legitimacy in the fashion business apart

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Speaker 1: from your and so it's just so complicated. If these

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Speaker 1: reason they're launching this label is that they are Diddy's daughters.

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Speaker 1: Now at the moment, that is not a good thing

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Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people who work really

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that, But I'm not like this. This is just

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Speaker 1: a rich kid too. Rich kids who've got nothing to

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Speaker 1: Because anybody that has ever launched a new company, whether

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Speaker 1: most of them fail. And they almost always fail if

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd just add to this, and I agree.

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Speaker 3: The collection is called seven to seven seven, which piece

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Speaker 1: Stare six six six, that's what they should call it,

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Speaker 1: six six six, So stupid. Okay, moving along, Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: He didn't really give us any amazing details. Travis, if

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Speaker 1: that's all I wanted to hear about today. It's almost

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Speaker 1: a little bit of he tricked me, They tricked me here,

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Speaker 1: And I'm starting to feel that way about Taylor too.

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Speaker 1: The Taylor that I loved past tense, the Taylor that

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Speaker 3: I mean, I hate to say this, but I kind

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Speaker 3: of felt that way before this story. I was afraid

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Speaker 3: to say it because I think most people love them,

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Speaker 3: but I just felt like something feels weird. And then

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Speaker 3: he cheats, a lot is on the line for him,

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Speaker 3: and I'm just wondering, is this all gonna lead up

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Speaker 3: to another album where they get divorced and he had

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Speaker 3: a mysteriss and blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just it feels so grifted. Honest, even

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Speaker 1: if they don't get divorced, if they stay together, why

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