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Speaker 1: Throughout this entire time Danielle has been missing. Trying to

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Speaker 1: called me up screaming, telling me that they had to

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Speaker 1: stop all of commerce in Pennsylvania to get me out

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Speaker 2: JOHNA. Tobray his sister Danielle went missing in February of

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Speaker 2: two thousand and five, but she wasn't alone. Danielle and

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Speaker 2: her friend Richard left a bar and simply vanished. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: She was my sister, she was my friend, she was

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Speaker 1: died that night, but to this day I still don't know.

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Speaker 1: I can't stop my mind from wandering to the darker things.

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Speaker 1: She alone? Was she scared? Was she calling out for someone?

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Speaker 3: Was?

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Speaker 1: For all I know? They have all this information, the FBI.

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Speaker 2: So what does the FBI say?

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Speaker 4: We have several working theory, We've done a number of

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Speaker 4: I need somebody to tie it together. This needs to

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Therein Gone South Street

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Speaker 2: Episode one, Ghosts.

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Speaker 3: All Yes, I see you in my dream, reached out

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Speaker 3: on the dog for you, the last to me. I'll

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Speaker 3: never give up, no matter how long I opened my

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Speaker 3: eyes Define you Gone.

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Speaker 2: A note that the views and opinions expressed in this

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Speaker 2: podcast are solely those of the individuals participating. This podcast

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Speaker 2: contains subject matter which may not be suitable for everyone.

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Speaker 2: Discretion is advised. For fifteen years, Danielle and Richard were

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Speaker 2: strangers to me. Ghosts that loomed over I ninety five South.

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Speaker 2: It's the stretch of highway that connects Philadelphia to New

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Speaker 2: York City. Each side is lined with billboards. Most are

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Speaker 2: smiling faces next to the word missing. It's Danielle Mbau

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Speaker 2: and Richard Patron, and it's been there for almost twenty years.

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Speaker 5: Inbo and Patron were last seen leaving a South Street

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Speaker 2: I knew their faces, I knew their names.

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Speaker 5: Investigators have turned up a few promising leads, but have

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Speaker 2: South Street is one of the busiest and most popular

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Speaker 5: They had left a bar at Fourth and South, headed

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Speaker 2: Two adults in their mid thirties walk out of a

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Speaker 2: The story of Richard Patrone and daniel Imbou became an

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Speaker 2: That's Jerry Williams. She was an FBI agent and the

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody had heard of a case like

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Speaker 2: Veto Special Agent Vito Rosselli. He has been working on

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Speaker 6: I could tell that it was more than just another

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Speaker 2: Agent Rosselli had spent almost two decades tracking down every

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Speaker 6: There are so many times over the past few years

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Speaker 4: Hey, Andrea, I really appreciate your effort on this huge helme.

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Speaker 2: Special Agent Vito Rosselli looks and sounds like someone in

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Speaker 4: My dad was an old Hoover guy. He was an

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Speaker 2: Video is a warm and welcoming guy, but I could

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Speaker 4: It wasn't just an accident driving off a bridge, a truck,

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Speaker 2: And after nineteen years of searching, Fudo still has no

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Speaker 4: What I did uncovers that both were good people. A

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Speaker 2: Vito has a lot writing on this investigation. Obviously, he

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Speaker 4: Every investigator, every detective, has that white whale that hangs

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Speaker 2: I've met with Vito a few times now. After those conversations,

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Speaker 4: Everybody that's working on this case and everybody that has

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Speaker 2: This case was a big deal in Philadelphia, and to

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Speaker 2: It's people, It's all important to this story. Philadelphia is

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Speaker 4: I've gotten confessions from folks because it was chewing them

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Speaker 2: my brother grew up with Richard Patron and was good

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Hartman grew up across the street from Richard, and

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Speaker 7: We'd like to play hockey. We would get the guys together,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, everybody knows everybody.

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Speaker 7: She was always nice. I just never got to know

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Speaker 7: You couldn't go to the house without eating, just so

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Speaker 7: You could see the pain, especially in Marge's eyes. You

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Speaker 2: We had the FBI on ourself, but we understood that

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Speaker 2: to move forward we would need both families to participate.

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Speaker 2: It's a painful process, but also an opportunity. The more

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Speaker 2: to relive so much. It's tough. Since Jimmy knew the

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Speaker 8: Right we go.

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Speaker 2: Marge Patrone greeted me and my colleague Ben at her

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Speaker 2: years after her son, Richard and his friend Danielle Imbo vanished.

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Speaker 2: We needed to learn who Richard and Danielle were and

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Speaker 2: understand everything they left behind. On February nineteenth, two thousand

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Speaker 2: done speaking to the press. Think about it. The closest

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Speaker 2: that scap. It took an introduction from Richard's childhood friend,

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Speaker 2: many conversations and veto expressing the importance of participating. Ultimately,

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Speaker 8: You want to sit like somewhere comfortable or.

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Speaker 7: What do you want to do anything?

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Speaker 2: And much to my surprise and relief, Marge welcomed us

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Speaker 2: Marge is a grandma as well as a mother of three,

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Speaker 2: we'd been over for dinner many times before, even though

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Speaker 2: Marge invited us for Sunday dinner. And know this isn't

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Speaker 2: we felt honored to be invited. It was just before Christmas,

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Speaker 2: That's where we all gathered around a charcuterie board filled

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Speaker 2: there was this, I have a Susan Lucci doll. You

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Speaker 8: You know it's funny because I love soap, opwerds and

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Speaker 2: Marge explained that she always watched All My Children and

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Speaker 2: how one year for Christmas, Richard surprised her with this

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Speaker 8: For a guy, he was the best gift giver and

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Speaker 8: just very thoughtful and did it all himself, Like he

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Speaker 2: I could tell. Richard is Marge's first born. She lights

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Speaker 2: Richard's Bobby Clark jersey. That's when her voice trailed off.

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Speaker 2: And as the firstborn, you could say Richard got special treatment.

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Speaker 2: When Richard had a sore throat, I would run him

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Speaker 8: That Christine always would say. If I said I had

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Speaker 8: a store throat, you'd say, spray your throat.

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Speaker 9: You're right.

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Speaker 2: So Christine and Alisa are Margin's daughters. Christine was also

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Speaker 2: Her sister Elisa gave us a clue as to why.

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Speaker 9: I think this whole thing was really hard for Christine

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Speaker 9: we rolling your difference, and she doesn't really say anything

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Speaker 9: too much about that night.

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Speaker 2: Alisa is well into her thirties now, but was just

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Speaker 9: We have no idea what happened to them or how

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Speaker 9: this happened, and we just lived with that, and it's

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Speaker 2: There was a row of stockings in the living room

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Speaker 2: that hung across their mantle, just above the fireplace. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't help but wonder if Richard's stocking was one of them. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we all moved to the kitchen table as Marge arrived

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Speaker 2: with a giant bowl of stuffed mannicotti and homemade meatballs.

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Speaker 2: It was enough to feed a small army.

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Speaker 8: Everything to me is happy and sad.

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Speaker 2: Marge pointed to where Richard sat for thirty five years,

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Speaker 2: and then to the empty chair where her husband used

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Speaker 2: to sit for forty years. Marge and her husband, Richard Senior,

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Speaker 2: owned and operated a Swedish bakery called Viking Pastries in

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Speaker 2: the suburbs of Philly. That's where Richard and his father

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Speaker 2: worked side by side. The two were very close. Richard

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Speaker 2: Senior suffered multiple strokes and hasn't been home for a

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Speaker 2: while now. He's just never been here since Richard disappeared.

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Speaker 8: Let's face it, he's never been the same, no, never,

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Speaker 8: He's the shell of the person he used, but he's

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to say that life hasn't

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Speaker 2: But I got the feeling that Marge in particular has

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Speaker 2: been sort of treading water ever since that day. The

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Speaker 8: I had to keep going, which I still am doing,

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Speaker 8: even though it's like yesterday for me.

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Speaker 2: Back on February twentieth, two thousand and five, Richard didn't

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Speaker 8: I remember Christine calling me. She said, Mom, Richard's missing,

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Speaker 8: and I said, missing, What do you mean.

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Speaker 9: He's home.

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Speaker 8: There's a nice car today. You would never leave the house.

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Speaker 8: He's home.

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Speaker 2: Marge said she was out running errands with her husband

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Speaker 2: that afternoon and she was certain Richard was home. It

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Speaker 8: She's not home, mom.

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Speaker 2: Christine called Marge from the salon where she worked. She

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Speaker 2: was concerned about Danielle. Yeah, the same Danielle who was

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Speaker 2: with Richard the night before.

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Speaker 8: And she said, Danielle didn't show up for an appointment

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Speaker 8: today and she never does that, and he's not home.

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Speaker 8: He's missing.

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Speaker 2: Marge and her son Richard were close. They usually talked

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Speaker 2: multiple times a day, but that Sunday, she hadn't heard.

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Speaker 8: From him, and so when I called his phone a

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Speaker 8: million times and I just want right to voicemail, he

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Speaker 8: would never not answer his phone to me.

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Speaker 6: Never.

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Speaker 2: One thing to keep in mind, back in early two

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Speaker 8: Christine said the same thing with Danielle. It's just going

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 8: I called my sister and I said to her, we've

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Speaker 2: Marge's sister lived down the street from Richard, so she

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Speaker 2: She didn't see Richard's truck parked out front, so she

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Speaker 8: She said, no, nobody came back here, and the book's barking.

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Speaker 2: Richard's dog, Bismarck was in distress and needed to go out.

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Speaker 2: His food bowl was empty, and it was clear Richard

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Speaker 2: Richard was a reliable guy, not one to be out

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Speaker 2: of touch, leaving his family in the dark like this.

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Speaker 2: It was out of character.

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Speaker 8: He would never go anywhere without telling me. I know immediately. Immediately,

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Speaker 8: I'd like, so, oh my god, this could not be happening.

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Speaker 8: But I lost my shot today. Oh my god. Christine said,

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Speaker 8: we're never going to see them again, are we?

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Speaker 1: Mom?

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Speaker 8: I said, no, we're not. We're not.

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Speaker 2: Christine and Marge feared the worst, but Richard's father wasn't

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Speaker 2: about to jump to conclusions. Richard was a strong Italian father.

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Speaker 2: He's as much braun as he is brains, and when

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Speaker 8: He said, what are you saying? I'm saying that something

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Speaker 2: While the fear was hitting the Patron family, John and Tobray,

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Speaker 1: I woke up Sunday morning early and I took a

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Speaker 1: I'm outside of Danielle's. I see her car here, but

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Speaker 1: I don't want her to get scared, and she said

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Speaker 1: maybe she slept at Richard's.

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Speaker 2: At the time, John had been trying to support Danielle

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Speaker 2: Danielle's life had gotten complicated. Danielle I had recently separated

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Speaker 2: Danielle and Joe welcomed their son together just two years prior.

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Speaker 2: In February of two thousand and five, Danielle was in

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Speaker 2: uncharted waters. She was a single parent, navigating custody of

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Speaker 2: to help his sister, he would, whether it be helping

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Speaker 1: It was a typical ugly separation, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: Like hung the curtains up and I left Zobius.

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Speaker 2: No one was home, so John packed up his tools

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Speaker 2: That was until I.

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Speaker 1: Got a phone call around three o'clock. It was my

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Speaker 1: I'm at her condo now I need you to come here.

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Speaker 1: And my mother isn't full blown panic. She said, Joe's

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Speaker 2: The divorce was nasty. Danielle's mom knew how bad it

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Speaker 2: only to find out Danielle never came home that night.

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Speaker 2: It was currently Mia. You see, over the past few months,

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Speaker 2: She didn't want to give her soon to be ex

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Speaker 1: My mother said, don't tell him what's going on. I

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Speaker 1: to say, well, I'll keep the baby until she comes home.

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Speaker 1: I said, Mom, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: It was three o'clock that afternoon when to drop off

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Speaker 1: He kind of walked in. He goes, looked confused, and

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Speaker 1: like he mumbled under his breath. I guess telling a

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Speaker 1: lie is better than telling the truth. Then he left,

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Speaker 1: like saying what we were saying was bullshit.

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Speaker 2: It was always our intention to start our own investigation,

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Speaker 2: but we had to ask ourselves, where do you start

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Speaker 2: on a case when two people go missing. We started

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Speaker 2: by retracing their last steps. We wanted to understand exactly

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Speaker 2: where Richard Petrone and Danielle Imbo were the night of

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Speaker 2: February nineteenth, two thousand and five.

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Speaker 8: We're all altogether. That right went to Chicky and.

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Speaker 2: Pete Margein her two daughters, Christine and Elisa, had dinner

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Speaker 2: with Danielle Imbo and Danielle's mother at Chickie and Pete's,

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Speaker 2: which is a popular Philadelphia restaurant. I think chicken sandwiches,

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Speaker 2: she seks, crabfries and beer. It's a sports bar with

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Speaker 2: games on TVs everywhere A good place to blow off

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Speaker 2: steam after a long week. Here's Alisa, Richard's sister.

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Speaker 9: It was just a girl's night out. I wanted to

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Speaker 9: tag along anywhere my sister and my mom were going,

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Speaker 9: so I was there.

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Speaker 2: Toward the end of dinner, Richard called Danielle to see

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Speaker 2: if she wanted to join him for the evening. Initially

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Speaker 2: Danielle wasn't sure, but eventually agreed she was open to

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Speaker 2: making the most for child free Saturday night.

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Speaker 9: And then my sister drove Danielle to meet Richard.

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Speaker 2: Christine agreed to drop her off since Danielle's car was

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Speaker 2: back at her condo in Jersey.

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Speaker 8: That was really like a spark of the moment thing.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he even knew that she was going

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Speaker 8: to actually go with.

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Speaker 2: Him, And that's an important detail from Marge and something

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Speaker 2: to remember. This was a spontaneous meetup between Danielle and Richard.

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Speaker 8: Richard was at another tap room having to dinner and

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Speaker 8: told Christine to drop her wolf she would go with

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Speaker 8: Richard that night.

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Speaker 2: As for Danielle, her brother John got the story of

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Speaker 2: what happened from his mother.

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Speaker 1: She said, well, last night, Danielle and I and Marge

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Speaker 1: and Christine went to Chicken and Pete's, and Richard called

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Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I'm at this bar, Abilene's on Sale Street.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you come. Danielle said, she'll meet you as

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Speaker 1: long as you can get her home at a reasonable time.

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Speaker 2: Danielle had an appointment at a salon the next morning.

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Speaker 2: It was the same salon that Christine Patron worked at.

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Speaker 2: So it's our understanding that from Chicky and Pete, Christine

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Speaker 2: drives Danielle to meet up with Richard, and Richard and

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Speaker 2: Danielle drive to Abilene's on South Street together.

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Speaker 10: South Street had this huge strip of bars, Ebiline's. One

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Speaker 10: of them.

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Speaker 2: Journalists DeVoe covered the story for Philadelphia Magazine and explains

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Speaker 2: what happened next.

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Speaker 10: I remember that they were having a good time, that

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Speaker 10: they were enjoying themselves. They sat close together, they shared

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Speaker 10: a kiss at some point, they were laughing a lot.

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Speaker 10: You know, they had a nice evening together.

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Speaker 2: We heard Danielle and Richard spent a couple hours at

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Speaker 2: the bar that Saturday night, listening to a band.

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Speaker 10: They leave before midnight. He was going to drive her

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Speaker 10: back to her home in Mount Laurel, and that's where

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Speaker 10: the trail ends.

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Speaker 2: No one has seen Danielle or Richard.

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Speaker 10: Since, not just them, but a truck disappeared into the

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Speaker 10: ether from one of the most frequented spots in the

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Speaker 10: whole city. It was stunning. I just wish that the

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Speaker 10: families could have an answer, and whatever the answer was,

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Speaker 10: to sort through it and deal with it.

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Speaker 4: I'm a father, I'm a brother, I'm a husband, I'm

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Speaker 4: a son. It is very hard not to see the

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Speaker 4: human side, the human impact on the two families. It

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Speaker 4: keeps me motivated.

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Speaker 2: For Vito Rosselli, he lives with the impact of that

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Speaker 2: reality every day and one of the major factors that

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Speaker 2: has stopped him from solving this case is the evidence,

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Speaker 2: or lack thereof. This happened in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: when even basic equipment like security cameras were using outdated technology.

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Speaker 4: Back then, everybody was still on VCRs that they were

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Speaker 4: taping over after two weeks of thirty days, street light cameras,

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Speaker 4: none of that existed. Back then, you know, the iPhones

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Speaker 4: weren't a thing, so it was a little different animal.

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Speaker 2: Today, we can track our friends. Everyone is essentially has

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Speaker 2: a GPS in their pocket. Plus there's no shortage of

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Speaker 2: documenting with people recording their life for the whole world

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Speaker 2: to see. But in two thousand and five, people had

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Speaker 2: flip phones in MySpace. Even YouTube didn't come out until

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Speaker 2: February of two thousand and five.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot more tools available to us now

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Speaker 4: than we did back then.

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Speaker 6: Today, when something happened, you know, there's cell phone video,

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Speaker 6: and there's video on buildings, and people are going on

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Speaker 6: social media and talking about it. Well, we didn't have

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Speaker 6: any of that back then.

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Speaker 2: That's former FBI agent Jerry Williams.

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Speaker 6: In my years of doing media relations for the FBI,

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Speaker 6: I've never heard of a case like this ever before.

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Speaker 6: I mean, people are concerned. If this happened to this couple,

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Speaker 6: what could happen to me and my kids if I

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Speaker 6: let them go on South Street.

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Speaker 2: The community was concerned, and law enforcement didn't have much

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Speaker 2: to work with. After those initial days of the investigation,

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00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: the FBI got tapped in and the lack of evidence

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00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: actually started to tell a story to Vito.

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Speaker 4: Nobody checks into a hospital. Neither one of them would

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Speaker 4: have left their children. They wouldn't just have run away.

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Speaker 2: The idea of Richard and Danielle getting hurt or skipping

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Speaker 2: town got ruled out pretty quickly.

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Speaker 4: There was no activity on their credit cards or on

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Speaker 4: their phones. The people who did it made two people

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Speaker 4: in a truck disappear. That's a clean cry, and it

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Speaker 4: could have been cleaned by accident, it could have been

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Speaker 4: cleaned by luck, or it could have been clean by design.

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Speaker 4: So it was clear that something bad happened pretty much

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Speaker 4: off the start.

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Speaker 2: Vido and Jerry were adamant about one thing. After nineteen

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Speaker 2: years of dead ends, they were out of options.

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Speaker 6: When you have a case like this, you have to

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Speaker 6: figure out how to keep it in the news.

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Speaker 4: Each year at the anniversary where you put something out

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Speaker 4: and without fail, we always get tips, callings and more.

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Speaker 4: Over the past few years have been pretty consistent, so

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Speaker 4: it's good it keeps it out in the public's eye.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Today marks ten years since the local couple vanished without

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Speaker 1: a trace, and despite a decade since their disappearance, today

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Speaker 1: their relatives made an emotional plea for new information.

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Speaker 2: Every February twentieth, without fail, the city of Philadelphia is

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Speaker 2: reminded of Danielle and Richard.

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Speaker 5: It has been eleven years to the day since daniel

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Speaker 5: Believe it or not, Today marks twelve years since Danielle

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Speaker 5: Imbo and Richard Patron Junior.

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Speaker 2: First one message they have not been seen in thirteen years,

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Speaker 2: despite and from nineteen years now. These segments go out

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Speaker 2: and tips come in prints and repeat to a family.

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Speaker 10: But the MBI says they have not given up on

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Speaker 10: this case.

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Speaker 2: Having lived here my whole life. I've watched the segment

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Speaker 2: each February with the rest of Philadelphia. Now I have

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Speaker 2: more of a context as to why. Just like that

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Speaker 2: billboard I mentioned in the beginning, it's a lifeline thrown

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Speaker 2: out for Richard and Danielle and their families, anything to

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Speaker 2: keep hope for justice alive.

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Speaker 6: I think putting it out there to the public on

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Speaker 6: a true crime podcast is a brilliant step to add

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Speaker 6: to what has been done so far.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy for me to say this, but I think

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Speaker 2: the FBI needs our help and your help. So do

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Speaker 2: Danielle and Richard. The two left a crowded bar in

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Speaker 2: a popular area at Philadelphia on a Saturday night two

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Speaker 2: decades ago, and in those twenty years, we still don't

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Speaker 2: know who wanted to harm them and why.

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Speaker 4: One of the important directions that law enforcement had to

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Speaker 4: take was to determine the history between Danielle and Richard.

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Speaker 4: When you look deep into anybody's backgrounds, you gotta be

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Speaker 4: digging up stuff. And we found some angles that were

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Speaker 4: of interest to us.

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Speaker 6: That's when started to look like this may have been

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Speaker 6: a very personal crime.

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Speaker 2: That's next time on There and Gone.

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Speaker 3: All is a same you in my dream reached out

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Speaker 3: in the dog for you, fellastoy. I'll never give up,

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Speaker 3: no matter how. I open my defind car hitch corner

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Speaker 3: it lit another puss ho peace. I follow the clues

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Speaker 3: looking for the key. He level give up no matter hell,

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Speaker 3: I open my defind that your car.

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Speaker 2: If you have any information about the disappearance of Danielle

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Speaker 2: Imbo and Richard Patron, please call the Citizens Crime Commission

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