WEBVTT - What Epstein’s Really Exposing 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.160 Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:04.800 Resent Choice Media. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.600 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.200 Welcome, Welcome home. Y'all. This is episode eighty eight of 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.280 Native Lampid, where we give you our breakdowns on all 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:18.560 things politics and culture. Of course, we're your hosts Tiffany Cross, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.440 Angela Rye. There together, y'all, and this is me Andrew Gillim. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.320 What's up, Hi. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.760 I want to start out by addressing a vicious rumor, 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:29.720 and that is Angela and I did not plan to 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.760 dress to like today. So if you ever see us 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:38.000 dressed alike, it just happens. It's just, that's all. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.559 What happened with Andrew, Andrew always doing the opposite, just 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:41.280 like he does. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:43.400 Welcome. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.280 We could be a nineteen eighties album cover with Andrew 0:00:49.280 --> 0:01:03.640 in the middle, just butting a few more Bush. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:58.959 Thank you, thank you so much. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.480 Okay, Yes, what Tom? 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.240 Move right on past that. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:07.880 It was given Uncle Luke. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.559 Are we talking about what we talk about? 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.119 Speaking to Uncle Luke? 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.280 Yeah, it sounds like and I'm not saying he's in 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.480 the Epstein files at all, but I am saying that 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:24.080 there is some treachery in those files and MAGA Republicans 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.640 don't want to release them after the community is split 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:28.400 on whether or not we should care that much, and 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:29.959 so is MAGA apparently. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.720 Yeah, well, I definitely have a lot of thoughts on that. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.360 I as always enjoy hearing from our viewers, and thank 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.000 you guys for always taking the time to record videos 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.199 and respond even when you disagree. I just enjoy hearing 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.720 from y'all, So I yield my time as I do 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.480 most weeks, so we can have time to hear from 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:48.160 our viewers. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.520 I love it. I love it. Well, I'm with you, 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.280 but I'm with you too, Angela, and I'd love to 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.560 pivot from that Epstein piece to see how are Democrats 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.320 as a party as an organization who we're trying to 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.880 win back power. It's gonna take advantage of this moment 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.040 or create their own moment to try to win the 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:05.840 hearts and minds of an American voters. So we'll get 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.360 to that on the other side, y'all, let's get at it. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.480 What's up Native lampod My name is Atalanta and I'm 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.920 a huge fan of the show. You guys actually inspired 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.919 me to start my own podcast called Solar Punking. Where 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.480 every Sunday we talk about solar punk ideology, things we 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.720 can do in our community to make them better, and 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.000 ways to build the world that we want to live in. Anyway, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.799 the reason for my videos that Tiffany mentioned last week 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.040 come hard. It must be for law students right now, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.040 and I can tell you as a current too, well, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.560 it's been a struggle. I'm a second year law student, 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.720 and you know we're meant to read the material, absorb 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:52.280 the material, analyze the material, and apply the material and 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.920 sort of gaslad ourselves into believing it along the way. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.480 Chevron difference was a really big one that changed for 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:03.959 us over my academic year. Birthright citizenship is a really 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.120 big one right now. Do process is a really big one, 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.920 and things are just changing so rapidly it's hard to 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.760 kind of keep up sometimes. But I got into this 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.880 because they wanted to be an advocate for my community. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.400 So I'm going to stick it out today. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:17.040 End either way. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:18.000 Anyway. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.560 I love you, guys, motivated peace. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:22.680 I love that. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.400 Thank you at Alanda, we appreciate that. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:28.720 I know that is for real. 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:33.160 The stay hydrated piece, well, we're popping bottles over here, 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.560 so hereous guys. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.800 I like sparkling water. I don't know what you like it. 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.000 And you put me on water, but they ain't paying 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.040 for no branding on this show, so I'm putting it 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.480 on the floor. Yeah I like that brand too, But 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.160 the other brand you put me onto I really. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.400 Liked yea Georgia. That's good. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.520 They hydrated. And I have a motivational water bottle that 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.200 tells you hour by hour, like I'll look at it 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.600 and it's like, by nine am, I should have consumed 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.800 this much. By ten am, this much, and so it 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.560 keeps me honest on drinking water. So anyway, thanks to 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.600 Adlanda for listening and taking the time to send in 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:08.080 that video. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:09.320 What else we got? 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.320 Well do we not talking about with her video? 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.280 Oh well, I didn't think she had a question. I 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.360 thought she was but we could talk. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:16.000 I just want to. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.599 Say I feel so bad for these law students because 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.080 I mean, I really agree with this point, because you 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.800 are trying to hang your hat, so to speak, on 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.159 the law, on something that you can lean up against, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.520 and there are moments where you lean up against and 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:32.680 it it shifts a little bit. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:34.320 It feels like you lean up against this. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.200 Right now and you fall back into a black hole, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.400 And so I do feel really bad for them because 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.320 what they have to navigate is not what is the 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.920 truth about humanity and what should be the law, but 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.120 also like the fact that people in twenty twenty five 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.719 don't know that that should be the case. That's a 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:58.120 different type of negotiating with truth. That is that's that's 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.400 really difficult. It's just I do not envy them. I 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.600 also feel bad for the law professors. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:04.159 Mm hmm. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.440 That's what you're telling them, like, I'm about to teach 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.400 you some stuff in this case, and they wrong, they 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:09.200 all got it wrong. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.680 Well, can I make a quick point on that. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:12.760 CHERYLN. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.720 Eifel joined Howard Law. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.920 And I went to her reception and she was talking 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.560 about something that probably would have made a lot more 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.279 sense to you, but some legal precedent. And she was 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.200 talking about it, and there were people in the audience who, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.080 you know, you heard the murmurs like what, I didn't 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.520 even know about that, And she said, yeah, exactly. When 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.000 I was in law school, I never knew anything about this. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.359 And so she's like, raise your hand, acknowledge, make a 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.479 noise if you've heard about this, and this huge like 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.560 half the audience started clapping, and they stood up and 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.960 started clapping, and she looked over and composed herself and said, 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:45.599 those are. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.800 All my former law students. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.000 So whatever the piece was that she was talking about, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.080 they knew about it because she told them about it. Yeah, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.320 because she taught them. So shout out to CHERYLN. Eiffel, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.600 you know how much we love you on this podcast. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.320 And actually, let me just make this in the official 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:04.080 invite to her to join us on Native Land whenever 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.880 your time permits, madam next week. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.840 We hope, we hope that's the missus Eiffles court. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.200 But yeah, I think that's a good point on what 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.159 law professors are going through. And I said last week, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.080 I think people who go to law school are trained 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.880 to think differently. So I'm just curious how people are 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:28.120 managing that. So thank you for playing in anything. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.359 Yeah, that's yes. If you if you have. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.680 To read through a textbook that may not hold true tomorrow, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:40.920 what are you banking on. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.040 We hold these truths to be. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.880 What self evidence changing. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.400 We hold these truths to be changing. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.600 You know, you know, I don't know if you guys 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.880 have been following the biggest beef going on better than 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.120 any rap beef and that is what's happening in Scotus 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.320 with ACB and K with Amy Coney Barrett and Kintanji 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:06.200 Brown Jackson. This is the first time that our friend 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.160 Albert is always saying, read the opinions because they're written 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.240 for you know people, and I always get intimidated, like, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.440 just explain it, tell me what happened. I have been 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.360 reading these opinions. And when I tell you, Justice Kintanji 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.320 Brown Jackson is here for it, and she comes in. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.400 So what happens is the Descent will issue and correct 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.320 me if I'm wrong, The Descent will issue their opinion, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.680 and Justice Jackson will issue her own. She issued her 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.720 own like they can say what they want to say, 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.120 but this is what I want to say, and had 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.280 her own statement where she was so clear and precise. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.120 And then when ain't nobody call for her, Amy Coney 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:45.240 Barrett came out and responded to Kintanji Brown Jackson, I'll 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.480 do a horrible job and have to correct myself explaining it. No, 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:49.800 I think hers was written. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:50.200 She had. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.240 It wasn't verbal, like she issued a written opinion in 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.760 response to Justice Jackson, and it was clearly like so 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:02.000 petty she's clearly so intimidated by by Justice Jackson. Is 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:02.800 so ridiculous. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.160 You know, one of the things that in addition to 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:11.160 feeling for law students, I'm feeling for criminally charged defendants 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:16.520 right now. And this alligator Alcatraz, that Rohn Deasantiss is 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.640 created here in Florida where they're supposedly detaining the worst 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.240 of the worst. And legislators went in there and found 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.920 out these folks, and most of which don't have infractions, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.000 and in some cases should they have infractions, they're traffic 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.400 These folks aren't out here creating crimes and so on, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.400 but they're more importantly, the sixth Amendment to the Constitution 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.400 allows for all of us to have rights to an 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.480 attorney should we be arrested, apprehended, or accused of some crime. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.120 And right now lawyers cannot get in to see their clients. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.520 They're being told when they show up to see their 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.360 clients that right now there isn't a system that can 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.600 facilitate them seeing their client. Well, we'll take your concern 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.400 and relay it. No, no, no, no, no. These are constitutional rights. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.360 And guess what about the US Constitution. Its limits are 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.560 within the jurisdiction of the United States. And so whether 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.320 you are a citizen of the US, you're a visitor, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.200 you are undocumented, you still have access to the rights 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.480 that are guaranteed there, and right now they're trifling over them. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.880 And so I fear for law students in the world 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.480 they're being introduced to because what's up and what's down. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.880 But I also fear for people right now who are 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:28.400 being detained American citizens included being detained without any access 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.720 to a lawyer, no access to their family, basically being 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.839 absented by the government who are wearing disguises when they 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.959 take them and put anywhere, including outside of the boundaries 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.440 of the geographical boundaries, in reach of the US government 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.120 or any of its courts by sending them to foreign 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.360 foreign countries. So the whole thing sucks. But we appreciate 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.880 the comment the comments as they as they continue to 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.480 come in. Let's take another one. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.960 Hey, Native Land Podcasts. This is changed from the New 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.520 York City and Andrew, I feel so see when you 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.880 scoop Tiffity Cross. I need that new season of Acrush Generations. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.800 Angela Rye, I need on one back. I wanted to 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.920 contribute to the housing crisis conversation One example of why 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.560 the housing crisis exists in New York City is because 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.840 government salaries, specifically for city and state employees, do not 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.959 keep up with private industries, specifically with real estate rental. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.160 On average, city employees make around forty thousand to sixty 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.760 thousand dollars with a forty five thousand to fifty thousand 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.520 dollars range. Really, and majority of those people are Blacks 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.439 and Latinos. A ruler thumb across mental real estate is 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.960 they want forty times to rent. So a lot of 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.640 times our average rant can be around three thousand dollars 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.960 for these new buildings being built, and so you have 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.160 to make around one hundred and twenty thousand dollars to 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.319 get into these buildings. And these people. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.880 Don't sis Agela and a lot of people they to 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.640 rent to damn High But Andrew, this was a topic 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.319 that you introduced, the wanted to talk about, very passionate about. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.840 Yeah, well, I want to continue to invite people. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.640 Do you remember the man to rent to damn High Man. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.240 He probably would win the mayor all election right now. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.000 He sure would. I mean, and by the way, that's 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.120 a message that folks across the country can run with. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.439 That's the problem with this crisis is that it isn't 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.680 just the New York cities of the world that are 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:27.239 experiencing it. All over working people, two income households struggling 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.760 to make ends meet, largely because the rents and the 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:37.120 mortgages and and and accessibility to affordable housing. And again, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.000 affordable is whatever you can afford on your salary. So 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.920 don't think we're talking about Section eight or we're all 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.080 talking about Section eight, but we're talking about all housing. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:47.640 And y'all, I'm not in my drink. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:49.480 Wondering what happened. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:55.040 I'm continuing to hydrate. But but importantly, this is a 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.719 crisis that is being experienced all across the country. And 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.880 I got to tell you, if politicians can office around 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.679 the country, I don't care what level of government you're 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.760 running for if they don't wake up and start talking 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.040 about this extreme wealth divide that folks are experiencing. The 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.839 income what's real, what you can afford. I go to 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.040 the grocery store, y'all. I don't know what y'all's experiences are, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.320 but people literally have their phones out and they're googling 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.920 other stores to price compare. I had not seen this 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.000 in a very long time. People are real time price 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.599 comparing the price of toilet tissue here and if I 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.280 went't here what it would cost, And if I ordered 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.960 an Amazon, this is what it would cost. And I 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.800 don't think this experience that people are having right now 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.640 in real time has been yet reflected in our politics yet. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.240 I don't think we've had an election to reflect what's 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.079 really going on yet, And I think we ought to 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.559 hold on to our seats when that happens, because anything 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.840 is possible when the bottom ninety percent of us get 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.040 frustrated with the circumstances as they are, especially when it 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:57.840 comes to our wallet. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.120 Thank you both entertaining my question on your last when 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.440 your previous podcast, my concern of talking to some of 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.600 us sometimes as if we are political mild contents was 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.520 responded to by Angela by challenging me to stop it 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.480 being mild content. I'm familiar with some of the work, 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.079 and I am critical, friend, but you are what every 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.120 black girl in America's descrived to be. And I feel 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.640 the same way about Miss Cross as well. But can 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.840 angel a pretentious response to me? Can that really show 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.680 the truth issue? And it also shows how deep the 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.200 equal chamber runs My side views some of you as 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.560 being politically compromised, and pushes a white supremacy wrapped up 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.440 in black activism for a party that don't care about us. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.440 Your side treat my side similar to how Angela treated me. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:55.199 There's nobody's listening, but it's just emotional and petty attacks 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.280 on pedagogical intelligence. Isn't that the issue? 0:13:59.040 --> 0:13:59.400 Okay? 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.040 Well, thanks our dear friend for sending in yet another video. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.680 I think what I would say to this is, you know, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:12.439 we make assumptions in this life about people, about their 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.600 allegiances to things. And I just spent the last several 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.880 weeks connecting black people who are like minded and not 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:25.080 like not like minded at all, people who come from 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.760 different economic backgrounds, people who come from different zip codes 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.360 and states, and so I think the least of my 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:38.680 concerns right now is being somehow compromised to a party 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.920 that I ain't never paid my bills, and I just 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.640 wish I would. So, I mean, I don't have anything 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.360 other than I am for black folks uniting and figuring 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.760 out what our common ground is, what are common causes 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.360 and how we move forward and like minded fashion to 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:59.080 hopefully accomplish the same mission, which is our ultimate freedom 0:14:59.080 --> 0:14:59.640 and liberation. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.720 The rest of that I'm not gonna respond to because 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.520 he ain't talking to me. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.520 Yeah, I just want to say thank you friend for 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.800 sending in the video, and just to reiterate the point 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.600 that even in disagreement, we're all family and in conversation 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.920 with you. So I appreciate you listening to the next 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.960 episode where we did talk about your question and taking 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.640 the time to send in another video. I do take 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:29.120 your point about, you know, certain people looking at other 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.440 groups as being politically compromised for a party, and I 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.080 think that some of the I hope anyway, some of 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.600 the nuance that you get in this conversation. The three 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.920 of us don't agree on a lot of things. I'm 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.880 certainly not a party person. I'm never here promoting democratic 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:51.120 talking points at all. My interest is always in us 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.080 as a community, and I feel like I can say 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.600 that for my co host that that's always our first interest. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:15:59.680 So I would just ask you to keep. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.160 Tuning in, keep weighing in, and we certainly are not 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.360 above reproach and depend on our audience to hold us 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.320 accountable if you feel like something we're saying you disagree 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:14.280 with will always be open and receptive. I'm accountable to effects, yeah, 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.800 I am, But I'm saying if they are rooted in facts, 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.440 then we will engage. If it's not your experience or 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.920 or experience exactly their personal experience, I think it depends 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.760 I might not be accountable to your experience. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.400 Well, I don't know that we're I don't know that 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:35.000 we're accountable accountable to someone's experience. Accountability requires that we 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.480 take some ownership, so on and so forth. But I 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.920 do think that people's experiences, and we often say this 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.560 when we're all talking about registering people to vote, If 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.560 your experiences is when you vote, nothing changes, And that's 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.880 been your experience every time you've done it, as people 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.600 have asked you to and admonished you to, and that 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:57.680 you felt compelled to. But yet nothing changes. Again, definitional insanity, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.440 people's lived experience guides that practice. In fact, I lived 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.240 experience guys most of our practices. What we're experiencing during 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.320 the day very much so dictates what we end up doing. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.560 And so I think people's experiences matter, and we're not 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.520 the arbiters of that truth, right they are. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.760 Yes, But I also think that would be a good 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.080 deeper philosophical mini pod. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.800 Okay about not. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.679 To be accountable for your experiences or just accountable for facts? 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.960 What are other people accountable for our experiences too? 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.240 We would let a lot of people off the hook 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:42.280 if that became the new standard, if that people didn't 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.440 have to be responsible for our experiences in the world. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:51.560 White folks right now largely have already wholesale taken themselves 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:56.400 off the hook for the legacy of slavery and segregation. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.119 And do we not try to hold them accountable for 0:17:59.200 --> 0:17:59.960 our experience? 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:01.439 I do believe. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.639 I do believe that experience I'm responsible for. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.680 Like your misunderstanding of me, I think that if I, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.919 if I hurt your feelings, I can apologize to you 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:13.679 for hurting your feelings. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.840 That's subjective, but I also. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.480 Can say that is not what I was factually, that 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.560 was the intention. But let me let me acknowledge that 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.160 you were hurt in some way. What I'm not accountable for, though, 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.639 is like you painting me with a broad brush because 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.600 you using some talking points you learned about on the 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.720 Instagram comment I'm not gonna be responsible? 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.600 Well, no, I don't. Well do we do? 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.359 We want to have this as a mini want to 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.199 get it was even you saying it. I'm like that 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.400 we can take this politically, personally, professionally. I think there's 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.720 a lot of tentacles, So we can talk about it now. 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:44.680 We can have it as a mini pod. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:50.880 Who's going to remember that? We want it as me? Okay, okay, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.080 all right, all right. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.080 But but I do think there was something said here 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.080 that Angela you may be able to lift off of, 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.320 which is this, what is the what is each side 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.160 saying to voters? What are they communicating right now? If 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.040 you would pick up the headlines, what's what's out there 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.720 right now? What does the voter get to consume? That's 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:12.200 a meaning. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.000 Well, we can talk about this. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.760 We were supposed to talk about this big, badass bill 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.119 and what people how it is being reported on right now. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.160 Of course, there's this case with. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:29.520 The Epstein files and how people are experiencing that failed promises, 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.000 which is not going to be a unique experience with 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.800 anyone who voted for Donald Trump based on some promises he. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.520 Made a lie gonna lie every day of a week. 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.320 So I think that one of the things that we 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.200 have to be and one of the things that I'm 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.199 actually proud that we do on this podcast is we 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.840 don't let headlines and whatever's been like on the breaking 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.520 news ticker tape all day on a broadcast. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.400 We don't let that dictate what we share with our audience. 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.800 So I think here, hopefully you are clear about what 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.840 the big badass Bill does. Here, hopefully you are clear 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.040 about why. Well maybe today you will be clear about 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:08.359 why this Epstein thing is in the news and why 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:12.399 his supporters fill away. But yeah, I think that we 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.680 have an obligation to tell people the truth, even if 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.480 it is in the bottom on the bottom fold, on 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.159 the other side of the headline. It's not something that 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:21.560 you're looking for, but it's something that. 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:22.320 We think you need to know. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.720 I just want to remind all of our listeners, those 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.800 of you who may disagree with us vociferously, but you 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.639 still enjoy this opportunity to listen and share what we 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.119 do here at Native Lampid. The best way you can 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:42.399