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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Giants Huddle Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Sean O'Hara. I am John Schmilk. You can

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Speaker 1: you're an Apple podcast a positive review. You might have

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Speaker 1: heard there's some big news. The Giants have hired a

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Speaker 1: new head coach. Joe Judge, special teams coordinator for the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots most recently, is the new head coach

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Speaker 1: for the New York Football Giants. Sean, I'll leave the

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Speaker 1: floor open to you give me a reaction. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. As a center, I had a

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Speaker 1: couple of jobs. The first one was huddle up. Everybody

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Speaker 1: said the huddle. So this is kind of kind of

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Speaker 1: feels good to be in the huddle here. Uh you

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Speaker 1: sta have to call the mic out to and and

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Speaker 1: tell Richie and Snee what to do. This is easy

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Speaker 1: for me. The mike's right in front of your face. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we got the huddle up, the mics right here

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Speaker 1: all right now, I got nothing left to do. Uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Court is in session. Joe Judge. I think, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you and I were first talking this morning, you

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Speaker 1: know we didn't know and the Joe Judge and you know,

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Speaker 1: ruling gets announced and the excitement I feel like in

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Speaker 1: the building not just that the Giants got the new

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Speaker 1: head coach now, but it started to build as far

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Speaker 1: as all right, who is this guy? And I think

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Speaker 1: that was everybody's first question was who is Joe Judge? Where?

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Speaker 1: What program was he head coaching? And where is he

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Speaker 1: coming from? So um as everybody kind of peels back

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Speaker 1: the layers of who Joe Judges. The guy has been

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Speaker 1: successful in every one of his coaching stops over the

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Speaker 1: last ten years. Obviously it helps when you're with Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban and Alabama and with Bill Belichick with the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: but kind of good mentors, yeah, it kind of it

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Speaker 1: kind of stacks the odds right there, and some good

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Speaker 1: coaches to have referring you. If if Nick Saban is

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Speaker 1: referring you to Bill Belichick, number one, you gotta feel

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Speaker 1: pretty good about the endorsement from Nick Saban. But you

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Speaker 1: also got to realize this is a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: because Nick is basically putting his reputation on the line

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Speaker 1: to go work with Bill all check I better stand

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Speaker 1: and deliver. But I think for the Giants, what a

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Speaker 1: great hire. When you're trying to build championship culture. Why

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Speaker 1: not bring in a guy who used to roll Tide

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Speaker 1: and who has rings from Alabama? Why not bringing a

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Speaker 1: guy who was just up with new the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: to build it with young players and now he's got

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Speaker 1: a young head coach at thirty eight years old, who's

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Speaker 1: younger than Eli manning to now try to build the

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Speaker 1: championship culture around the Giants organization. I might chat a

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Speaker 1: tiers three months or more than that younger than me.

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Speaker 1: This officially makes me old. The head coach of the

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Speaker 1: all being younger than me. Now the head coach is

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Speaker 1: younger than me. I don't know, but I'll give you

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Speaker 1: some biographical information for the people that Again it's not

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Speaker 1: teams coordinator. People don't know generally speaking, the special teams

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Speaker 1: in the sideline, nobody kind of knew who he was. Well,

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Speaker 1: recommendation from him. You know Chris Mara, he trains horses, alright,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people know that that he's very involved

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Speaker 1: Here's what here's what should happen. So uh for Bill

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Speaker 1: been grooming Joe Judge for something like this. Um. I

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Speaker 1: But based on everything that you hear now about the interview, John,

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Speaker 1: You mentioned he's thirty eight, originally from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Don't

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Speaker 1: let that prejudice yourself against him. It's okay. He's a

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Speaker 1: Northeast guy. That's a good thing. Mississippi State alumni. Was

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Speaker 1: the special team's coach under Nick Saban won two national

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Speaker 1: now this year showing he had some experience on offense

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Speaker 1: Now for the Giants, it doesn't feel to me like

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge is going to be a slash coach. He's

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Speaker 1: the CEO, right He his job is, Look, I'm the

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Speaker 1: maybe outside with special teams, but he'll probably have a

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Speaker 1: He's been a big part of that for football focuses, right.

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people when they consider people for

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Speaker 1: very important. He delegates those responsibilities. Okay, hired Greg Roman

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Speaker 1: Those people are going to be extremely important as you

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Speaker 1: think that is what Joe Judge is bringing, both from

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Speaker 1: Just how do you see his philosophy in terms of

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