1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Daley. He is Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: And it is a well, a non victory Monday for 5 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers after a two straight victory Mondays. They lose 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens sixteen to fourteen on on Sunday 7 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Matt at the Accuser Stadium. And uh, just so many 8 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: self inflected wounds that you just couldn't overcome that many mistakes. 9 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there execution defending the run was also 10 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: poor in their overall physicality. But everyone in the world 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: knows what that game is gonna be. I mean, who 12 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: wins on special team penalties, turnovers, winning in the margins. 13 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: And it's pretty clear the Steelers did not win in 14 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: the margins. You know they did not. Um. Of course, 15 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett injured early in the game, suffered a concussion 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: UM and that left Mitch Robinsky and and I thought 17 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Robinsky was effective but got over aggressive. Yeah, I do 18 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: a postgame podcast and I wrap it up with these 19 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: are thumbs up guys, thumbs down guys, And I put 20 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: him thumbs up. Just to talk about him. I thought 21 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: he played extremely well except except except and he played 22 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: much differently though. I mean, like when he was replaced 23 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: by Pickett, boy, he he could he could let it 24 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: fly more. He's being conservative and this, and I think 25 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: he said it even in his Prescotters postgame interview, was 26 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: I was aggressive, maybe too aggressive? Yeah, And finding that 27 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: balance is key for all these guys. I mean, I 28 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: think Pickett has a little bit that to deal with 29 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: as well. But in these gates, it was really start 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: in each direction. Yeah, um, you know, I get you know, 31 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: you want to score touchdowns. And it was obvious that 32 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens, the closer the Steelers got to the end zone, 33 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: were very cognizant of Pat Fiarmouth. They knew where he 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: was at on the field, no matter what, um, you know. 35 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: And it just became a situation that in Firemouth, I 36 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: don't think was percent healthy in that game. In fact, 37 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: today at the today at the facility, he was in 38 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: a walking boot. It's not nothing again, bumps and bruises 39 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: kind of thing. As Mike Tomlin puts it. He was 40 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: still well enough to play, but I don't know that 41 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: they wanted him out there a hundred percent of the 42 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: snaps based on this, but I didn't know that, to 43 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: be honest with you, Um, but you somebody else needed 44 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: to just step forward, and I thought, you know, Deante 45 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: Johnson made some plays in this game. George Pickens made 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: some plays in this game. Stephen said has made some 47 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: plays in this game. Um. There was a series there 48 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: that we talked about that Sims Hamilton's matchup where it 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: looked like they were really targeting that with quick stuff, 50 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, and that was fine. I had no problem with. 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: And they moved the football, particularly through the air. What 52 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: they didn't do I I was critical of this in 53 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: my postgame ten thoughts. Nazi Harris got two carries in 54 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: the second half, totally, you know, one score football game. 55 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: I was just on the air with Martin Madden. I 56 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: said the exact same thing is like, Okay, we can 57 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: blame the run defense, we can blame the the field 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: goal block. It's certainly the three interceptions, but you're in 59 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: a tight game, in a physical battle, and you've gotten 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: to this point because you run the football with volume 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: and your power back that needs every touch you can 62 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: to wear it out the defense and be effective. Gets 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: three touches in the second half, Like I mean, I 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: have a problem with that. Yeah, I I do as well, Um, 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: especially you know early in the game when the Ravens 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: against Picket, when the Ravens got the Steelers in the 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: third and long, they were blitzing. Yeah, yeah, they were. 68 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: When Traubinsky was in the game, they weren't blitzing anymore. No, no, 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: And so you weren't gonna you were gonna get looks 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: if it was third and five, because you ran the 71 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: ball in first and second down. They were still makable, 72 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: and they weren't gonna they weren't gonna overload. And and 73 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: have you know guys running free at your quarterback because 74 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: I think they know that Rubinsky's you know, seasoned enough 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: to belie. Yeah right right, um along those lines, not 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: knowing that friar Muth was fighting something. So here was 77 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: some things I was critical of. Is I'm gonna nerd 78 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: out with a staff for you real quick. On first 79 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: and second down. They ran thirty seven snaps on early 80 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: downs with one tight end on the field. That of 81 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: those thirty seven snaps, friar Muth was thirteen of those. 82 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: So you're coming out in early downs with one tight 83 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: end on the field and its gentry and therefore your 84 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: third receivers out there, and it was often Gunner. Gunner 85 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: plays I think because he blocks. Yeah, I mean, not 86 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: much of a receiver. But then you're still not running it, 87 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, so is it? I know that, you know that, 88 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: I know kind of thing to like, if you're gonna 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: put the big personnel out there and run it, whether 90 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: it's a first quarter or fourth quarter or whatever, then 91 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: do what you have been doing well as opposed to 92 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot of two man routes out of that situation 93 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: with Gentry blocking or whoever blocking, and Pickings and Deonte, 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: both of them I think played really well, getting a 95 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: lot of attention. Then yeah, like I didn't understand that 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: usage like that. Okay, So they had fourteen yards or 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: fourteen carries for fifty two yards rushing in the first half. 98 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: That's okay, that's a great run to perfectly, that's three 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: point seven yards of carry. Now pick it had sixteen 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: that on on two uh scrambles. But we've been counting 101 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: at the same in the last two weeks. As that 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: doesn't change anything. The Ravens running backs or quarterbacks run 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: all right, you know, Um Trabisky didn't scramble at all. Yeah, 104 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: I thought found some strange right throwing it well, yeah, 105 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: he was throwing the ball well. Uh and you know again, 106 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: Harris got two carries in the second Now, he had 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: ten for thirty two in the first half, but one 108 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: of those was a one year a touchdown run. That 109 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: kills your average a little bit. I didn't think he 110 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: was being ineffective in the first half. No, I didn't 111 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: think he looked bad or was ineffective. I mean, you 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: knew this thing is a race to thirteen or whatever. 113 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Yards per carrying this game didn't matter to me, But 114 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean volume mattered to 115 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: me much more than yards per carry. And they're not 116 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: an explosive running team on their best day, you know 117 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. But if you can keep giving it 118 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: to him, which they could have, things might have been 119 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: a little different. Yeah. I just looked at this after 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: the game. Um. Steelers were four for eight on third 121 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: downs again for the last five games. Last five games 122 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: have been at overall the Ravens. Ravens were four yards 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: for play yards per play six point two to five 124 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: point one in favor of the Steelers. Um, you know, 125 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: just you look at this, twenty three first downs for 126 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: the Steelers, eight team for the Ravens. The Ravens didn't 127 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: have a possession a drive that went more than fifty 128 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: fifty seven yards. That was the last the last field 129 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: goal drive of the game. Thirteen plays, fifty seven yards 130 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: and you lost the game. You lost the game. You know, 131 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm a state nerd obviously and all those things. If 132 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: you told me that, I'd say, oh, the Steelers won 133 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: by ten, you know, I mean, I mean, but I 134 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: also read your column and a big thing you stressed 135 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: from the start was Steelers were not the more physical team. 136 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: They weren't, you know, they were not. That's what it 137 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: came down to. As much as anything as we can 138 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: talk about run past percentage, we can talk about who 139 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, who did what, but history shows Ravens Steelers, 140 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the finesse team doesn't win. I mean, it's the bully 141 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: that wins. The Steelers have won three and out in 142 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the game. Wow, on nine possessions. They moved the football football, 143 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: but you can't turn it over against that team. And 144 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: you can't blame the defense. They were on the field 145 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: way too many snaps or any of that stuff too 146 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean they faced run after run of big people 147 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: hammering them. But another you know, kind of like that 148 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Friar move stat. If you look at the Steelers snap counts, 149 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. Sutton played every snap, but the next 150 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: most used corner was Levi Wallace, who played like thirty snaps. 151 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: They played a ton of snaps with one corner on 152 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: the field because they were going to that three safety 153 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: package safety or five three you know, I mean in 154 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Edmunds in the box make all over the place. And 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: my point is it wasn't like they were in dime 156 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: getting run on, you know what I mean. The Steelers 157 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: match big people with big people a lot of nose 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: tackle stuff. Um. I also did a video today with 159 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: Arthur Moates. I thought he had a good point about 160 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: the d line. He had a problem with paraphrasing how 161 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: we were saying it was he's like Kim Heywards, a 162 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: defensive end whose moonlighting is a nose tackle. You know, 163 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't major in it. That's his minor, you know, 164 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean Lee Owls at d ND minoring it outside linebacker. 165 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: And he thought they did too much alignment stuff that 166 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: they don't do their best work at. And I think 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: that was valid. Yeah, you know it's a jack of 168 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: all trades, master of nun stuff. Ye. Instead of instead 169 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: of sticking with what you do best, you tried to 170 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: scheme it up and match what you thought the Ravens 171 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: were going to do and what they did. And I 172 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: don't think I asked numerous guys in that lock, what 173 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: did they do anything exotic that you guys didn't expect? No, 174 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: said in Heyward said, look even on that last run 175 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: that they you know that the last series where they're 176 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: trying to get a first time. He's like, at that 177 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: point in the game, we had seen all that stuff. 178 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: They just lined up and beat us on it. They 179 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: didn't have a deep playbook, Baltimore, but you emptied it right, 180 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: you saw it all. I mean, you shouldn't be shocked 181 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: with how they were designing their runs. They were just 182 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: better at it anywhere. But we've talked about this all 183 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: season long this year, about how power running beats some 184 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: of these you know, small are packages that that are 185 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: around the league. Now you look at the upcoming opponent, 186 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: they were probably forty sometimes on the road in Seattle, 187 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: not even that well, and it made their quarterbacks life 188 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: easier and by the fourth quarter, it's getting easier. But 189 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: you got to score points. You got to score point. 190 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: Here's the thing that narrows the playing field. So if 191 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers are up, you know, fourteen to seven or 192 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: fourteen to ten at a half, and then score early 193 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: in the second half to go up, yeah, whatever do 194 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens continue running the football to get you run 195 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: them out, you get them out of that script. Even 196 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: if Huntley was a quarterback. I mean, making them throw 197 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: the football playing with one corner is massive disrespect of 198 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: their wide receiver and their passing game as a whole, 199 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's what you wanted them to do. 200 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: And you could never force their hand to play anything 201 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: close to left hand because you fell behind ten nothing. 202 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: And then at that point, now you're playing catch up 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: to a team that wants you to play catch up. 204 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: That's how they're built to play with the lead. There's 205 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: a lot to do it. Yeah, and you mix in 206 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: what I call four turnovers because that block kicks and 207 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: say four of your possessions, four of your nine possessions 208 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: in the game ended with you turning the football over 209 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, and if one of them ends up 210 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: as a field goal, it doesn't guarantee you win. I 211 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: know that they lost by two, and that would be 212 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: three points the game. Those different abterfly effect, but I 213 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: bet more than one of them ends up with three. 214 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: More than three. If the Boswell field goal is good, 215 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: the Steelers win that game. I think so too. I 216 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: think because the Ravens weren't getting able to run their 217 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: way in the in the field goal range. I don't 218 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: know if you agree with this. I'm not implying the 219 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Steelers were the better team. I think Baltimore was a 220 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: better team because they could dictate the flow. But if 221 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: one of those four turnovers doesn't happen, I think the 222 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: Steelers still win. Yeah, you know, I really do. Yeah, 223 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: I agree completely. I mean again, you you you've had 224 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: two um interceptions in the second quarter. Um, if you 225 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: score on both of those, even a field goal, it's 226 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: thirteen ten at a half. Yeah. Yeah, it's a different game. Yeah, 227 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: And it's a completely different ball game. It just is. 228 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: Because you know, the Ravens their their second half punt 229 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: punt thirty four yards in the In the third quarter, 230 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: they had forty total yards. Yeah, in the second half, 231 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: they barely went over a hundred yards. They were down 232 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: to their third string quarterback. He tried to he tried 233 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: a couple of passes that were like, oh, they're not 234 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna do that anymore. In fact, I thought a couple 235 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: of times, even when when Huntley was still in the game, 236 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're running the ball and running the 237 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: ball consistently, and then they try to pass them like 238 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: they just did Steelers a favor. Please throw whatever step 239 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you might, I mean, honestly, So, what was 240 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: that again that you said there was like a hundred 241 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: yards of Baltimore offense in the second half. Yeah, I 242 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: think there's a misconception and maybe I fell into this 243 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: trap too, that they were just running it down your 244 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: throat to close the game out. And well that that 245 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: that that drive after the drive, drive after the uh kick. 246 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: That was thirteen for thirteen for fifty seven, and they 247 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: were very little passing on I think there's one pass 248 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: to that converted the third down to uh uh to Andrews. 249 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: It was like six yards. Yeah. I mean, I'm not 250 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: saying there weren't bad stretches, but it shocks me that 251 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: they only allowed a hundred yards offense in the second half. Yeah, 252 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: I mean It's just it was a very frust you know. 253 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: They made the big play after the punt, which people 254 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: were blaming Pressley Harvon from that, and I get it. 255 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: He kicked. He made the kick. He had to take 256 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: like a step and a half to his right to 257 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: field the snap on that which now now it throws 258 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: everything off because you're backed up in your own end. 259 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: You got you you have to think in that situation 260 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: because you're punting from what your your own ten that 261 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Baltimore may have a pump block, so you gotta get 262 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: rid of that thing quickly. You've got it set up 263 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: beforehand that you're kicking an angle kick to the left 264 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: and now you've had to take you basically two steps 265 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: to your right to feel the snap. And he missed. 266 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: He missed a kick. If it goes the other way, 267 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: it's a great kick. Like I'll be critical the Steelers 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: if they don't bring in training camp competition for him, 269 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: you know, and a legit fight. I mean, somebody that 270 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: has shown consistency that's different from him. Because his highs 271 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: are very high and his lows are very low. So 272 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: he's in the doghouse. Everyone wants to kill him, and 273 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: they don't think about context like you just laid out, 274 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, like there's more to it. That snap wasn't perfect. 275 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: You weren't read guy, I get it, But both of 276 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: his quote bad punts took awful bounces, you know, one 277 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: of them, and I don't know enough about punting. Should 278 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: he have punted it? Different chances are you can't control 279 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: the thing. The one bounces backwards at you, and one 280 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: bounces through the end zone. Basically, you know, like the 281 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: landing spots weren't awful, you know, if they had gone 282 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: the other way, right, if everybody was like he really 283 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, like Jack Nicholas around the greens. 284 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: If it's you know, even if it was a round 285 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: ball and bounces, you know where you think it's gonna bounce. 286 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: And the one that bounced into the end zone, let 287 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: me say this about that one. I don't get and 288 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: I see other teams do this, but I don't get 289 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: why on plays like that where you're trying to down 290 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: the ball inside somebody, at least one of your gunners 291 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: isn't going to the to the goal line and turning around. Yeah, 292 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: if they can get there in time, If you get 293 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: there in time and in that situation, James Pierre slowed 294 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: up and stopped where he got deeked by the by 295 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: the return man who who drifted over to the right, 296 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: right where he was at, and he kind of stopped 297 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: and waited right there. Nobody else got in behind him 298 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: to get in there and make a play. I do 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: think return guys are getting better at that, and there's 300 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: a little more trickery about being a punt returner nowadays 301 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: is pretty good at Yeah, yeah, I mean there is 302 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: some deception to it. I can't comment on that, but 303 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: you're right, it'd be great to get I sit next 304 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: to Bob Labriola at all the home games Bob becomes. 305 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't go in a road but he comes all 306 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: the home games, and he just complains about that every 307 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: time there's a punt down inside the twenty, Like, why 308 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: is it somebody going to the goal line with their 309 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: back to the goal line so you can see the 310 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: ball get down there? That should be your job. That 311 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: should be your job. No, I can't fight you on 312 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: that at all. I mean, that's you don't know where 313 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: that punt's gonna land or where you know where, and 314 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: the return man is going to Yeah, if he's not 315 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: calling you know, if he's calling for a fair catch, 316 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: that's you know, you should definitely get back there. You 317 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: see the fair catch saying he's not going anywhere, Get 318 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: your butt back there. I mean, I don't think either 319 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: one of us are thrilled with Harvin's No, I'm not 320 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: defending him at all. No, he did not have a 321 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: good day, but there are circum it could have been 322 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: much better than it was. Um you know, so it's 323 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: just some some things in that game that you know, 324 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: I play here or play there again, it's a game, 325 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: of course, it's a player here, you play there. Uh, 326 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't allow Lais can about a block 327 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: of kick. No, that's what he does in the press conference. 328 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: He's a historic or legendary or some big word like this. 329 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: He's got like ten of them. He's six eight and 330 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: he's a superhuman you know, right if someone else comes 331 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: free off the edge, so bad. Yeah, we're gonna get 332 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: two bodies on Klais. You know, I mean, like he 333 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: can't be the one that beats you. You know, No, 334 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that on present. You can't allow 335 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: him to get skinny and get through the like. No, 336 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's not on Bos or anybody that's that's 337 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: the blocking. Yeah, it's just you know, again, if that 338 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: field goal is good, they win the game. Completely convinced 339 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: of that. UM. But didn't happen um. You know, if 340 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: they pushed around, if they could get the ball back 341 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: in that last situation, I think they win the game. 342 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things, you know, but they couldn't 343 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: get off the field. And you know, this is not 344 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: the first time that's happened to them this year. They've 345 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: gotten in in in weighty situations the opposing team. The 346 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: Patriots did it, the Jets did it, ran the ball 347 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: against them effectively to run out the game. Brown, right, 348 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna get it the rest of the year to 349 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, starting with Atlanta, every one of those teams 350 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: are run teams, you know, and watching tape the last 351 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, what do you think Carolina's gonna do? 352 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: That's all they can do. Anyways, just like the Atlantic conversation, 353 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: what do you think the Browns are gonna do? What 354 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: do you think the Ravens are gonna do the next 355 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: time around? You know, I mean, Josh Jake was gonna 356 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: get a ton of carry's you know what I mean, like, 357 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: bet you're used to it. It's coming. Yeah, yeah, so 358 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: you know we'll see, uh see where this team goes 359 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: with this. So you know it, Uh, it's disappointing. Um, 360 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think that game was there for them 361 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: to win. It's not the first time they've lost a 362 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: game like that this year, and the league has gone 363 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: that way quite a bit. I mean, they want Every 364 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: team has those and that's not uncommon. But we have 365 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: too many times said in the last couple of months, 366 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: what if they would have one more one? It's a 367 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: it's a conundrum I think, because you know, we've talked 368 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: about this in the past that if you have a 369 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: big run stuffing those if they had drafted Jordan Davis 370 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: in the first round of the draft this year, you'd 371 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: have been happy about it yesterday maybe well probably, I 372 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: guess in that game. Yeah. Um. At the same time, 373 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of these games, he's gonna spend a 374 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: lot of time standing on the sideline play ten snaps 375 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: against the Bengals. Yeah, you know, you know, you know, 376 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: what is that worth do you do? You do you 377 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: spend a high draft pick, do you spend you know, 378 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: the that kind of draft capital on that guy, or 379 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: do you just go out and try to acquire him 380 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: as a veteran free agent or yeah, I mean watching 381 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: that game and it's you know, we're wishy washy. We 382 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: don't have to make decisions on what their first round 383 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: picture b or anything like that. I might be able 384 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: to live with the corners and the left tackle more 385 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: than I thought, if I can get Cams replacement or 386 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, if I can get I also think a 387 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: third receiver is really needed. I've seen enough of Gunner 388 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: and sim playing as much as they do. I mean, 389 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't even saying they have to not be on 390 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: the team, but there's a lot of directions they can 391 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: go to get better, including a nose tackle type. I mean, 392 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: I want Adams to be the true backup, you know 393 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: what I mean? And I don't know, given what's happening 394 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. I mentioned that Daniel Jeremiah 395 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: tweet a couple of weeks ago, where you know that 396 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: you were able to get those guys, the Travis Jones 397 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: who was yeah in the third round, Hargrave in the 398 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: third round. I don't know if you're gonna be able 399 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: to do that given the way the league is going. 400 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: There's also, and this is historically true, a lot of 401 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: big bodied free agents, and the Eagles just signed two 402 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: of them. Hankins got moved. You know, people like that 403 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: that are not getting a ton of snaps, don't want 404 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: a ton of snaps. Older, they've been around the block, 405 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: their bodies pretty beat up. Signed them to a one 406 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: year deal. Play them twenty snaps a game. Those guys 407 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: aren't there when we play Baltimore, when we play Cleveland, 408 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: you might have to play thirty, yea, some of these 409 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: games you'll play ten. Yeah, you know, I mean you 410 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: can get those types. They've been around the block and 411 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: know every trick in the book and certainly wouldn't be 412 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: shocked with what you know, Baltimore was throwing at them. 413 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: This one, to me, was more about person performance in 414 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: per so now you know, like I don't know, you 415 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: have to blow the whole thing up. But the players 416 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: didn't play well enough, the front seven, they didn't, and 417 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: the offense made critical mistakes. Yeah, yeah, the offense played 418 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: well enough as a whole. We both would like to 419 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: see more running. But the mistakes were the stories. The mistakes, Yeah, 420 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: the execution was the story. You know, again, everybody's you know, 421 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: everybody's complaining about all the field goals you kicked against Atlanta. Well, 422 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: if you scored nineteen in this when you win the game, yeah, right, 423 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: right right, that's doesn't mean to go for it on 424 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: fourth every time and turn down the field goals, especially 425 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: game like this. Yeah. Check out the Steelers Weekend Review. 426 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: It's hosted by Wesley Euler. It's a recap of the 427 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: previous game as well as a look at the Steelers 428 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: next opponent. New episodes drop every Tuesday. 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