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Speaker 1: All right, this is Chase that Lee. This is a

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody rubin tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Aleki.

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Speaker 2: Philly Show, brought to you by the foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 1: Hope everybody is doing well.

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Speaker 3: Eagles, I bet they are.

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Speaker 2: I bet they are. Everybody's in a great mood. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: in a great mood. We're recording this on Monday, but

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Speaker 2: we're posting it on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Because we said, listen, let's be honest. If we get

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Speaker 1: up early.

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Speaker 2: On Monday morning, people are not going to be tuning

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Speaker 2: into the Philly Show.

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Speaker 1: They want to talk. They want to talk Eagles.

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Speaker 2: So we're posting this on Tuesday morning. But what a

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Speaker 2: game on Sunday. Holy moly.

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Speaker 1: I watched it at home.

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Speaker 2: The Saquon running the first that that first monster run

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Speaker 2: my mind, screaming, my wife's screaming. My kids are looking

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Would you guys watch

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Speaker 3: I watched it with my family, my daughters, my wife.

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Speaker 3: We had a good time. Ate some uh ate, some ribs,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, it was just Barkley right out of the shoes,

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Speaker 3: like I mentioned last time, there's nothing more fun than

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Speaker 3: a playoff run in Philadelphia. I don't care what sport

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Speaker 3: it is captivates the community, and consider this community captivated, and.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, I mean, listen, we're I know I've been

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Speaker 5: fan just an awesome thing. I was actually coming back

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Speaker 5: from the Fan of Philly Fantasy camp. It was down

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Speaker 4: It was nice to see them spell it properly.

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Speaker 5: And every time, actually I heard a couple of fly

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Speaker 5: to work. But what a special special game. My daughter,

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Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna be fun, awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hell of a Eagles are a hell of a franchise.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what's this? Four Super Bowls and

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Speaker 5: and for him to have made that decision to bring

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Speaker 2: You're not locked into losing if you keep this guy's

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Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of the Phillies, of this

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Speaker 1: Now, a little bit like everybody's down on the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't say everybody's down in the Phillies, but there's

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Speaker 2: They needed to go make a big move, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: You think of like all the small businesses that are

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Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, every everybody's gonna be all Eagles

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun.

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Speaker 2: And I got my I don't have any. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Packer. I grew up a Packers fan, of course,

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Speaker 2: this is my Eagles gear. I got this Federal Donuts

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Speaker 2: My nod to my hometown, a new hometown of Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: And it was again it was my wife from Delco.

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Speaker 2: I was right along with her. I love to see

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Speaker 1: So but.

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Speaker 2: People come here also for some Phillies talk. So I

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Speaker 2: you real quick before we get into some audience questions

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Speaker 2: fan questions. MLB Pipeline on Friday released the top one

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Speaker 2: hundred prospects list, Andrew Painter number eight, Aiden Miller number

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Speaker 1: He talked a lot about those guys.

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Speaker 1: So if you missed those episodes, go back and check

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Speaker 1: those out. Those are a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: And when we come back, we're going to be answering

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Speaker 2: We got questions really about all sorts of different things.

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Speaker 2: Roster Battles twenty twenty six, Roster look make out, you know,

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Speaker 2: so I want to kind of start with this one.

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Speaker 2: I got a few questions about Kyle Schwarber. This is

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Speaker 2: X kind of had similarly similar questions. Do you think

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Speaker 2: the Phillies will try and extend Kyle Schwarber this season

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Speaker 2: could the Phillies use the Anthony s. Tander contract as

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Speaker 1: But do we have any.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts on the Phillies maybe this spring or this season

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Speaker 2: the season's over to kind.

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Speaker 1: Of see where everything stands.

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Speaker 3: Ranger really least likely at least? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think he's gonna look for his big score,

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Speaker 1: I forgot how I asked the question.

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Speaker 2: Least likely, Yeah, Ranger to me, with Painter coming up,

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Speaker 1: Okay, who's the so of JT and Schwarber.

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Speaker 3: Seat the gym and I fall up, Well, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I think there's a chance both of them are back

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Speaker 5: I think both of them are high level importance guys

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Speaker 5: Would say that if I were the GM, the person

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Speaker 5: I just don't think that there's a person there's a

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Speaker 5: But and I'd love to keep them both. But I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree with you there, Reubin, just

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Speaker 2: who's going to catch if he doesn't come back? Now

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 2: into Stubbs Marshawn who wins the bench jobs stubs Marshawn

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Speaker 4: Unless you go with twelve pictures.

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Speaker 5: Unless you go one last picture, and I don't know

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Speaker 5: to have Toty Clemens around, because he said he has

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Speaker 5: value play third, play first, he can play the corner outfields.

443
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Speaker 4: Keep all your.

444
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Speaker 5: Assets, man, and sometimes you got to be selfish. And

445
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Speaker 5: it may may not be the greatest thing for West

446
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Speaker 5: and Wilson's career, but the fact that he's got an option,

447
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 5: I think is really helpful for them.

448
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Clemens for the organization.

449
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Speaker 2: Right, Clemens and Buddy Kennedy are out of options. Rojas,

450
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Speaker 2: cal Stevens and West and Wilson obviously do have options.

451
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Speaker 1: Johann Rojas.

452
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Speaker 2: I looked up his Winter Ball numbers in the Dominican

453
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Speaker 2: batting two ninety five three and a two on base

454
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Speaker 2: three ninety slug twenty three stone bases, no cost stealings.

455
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Speaker 4: No costs stealing, yes, shovels.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, six doubles, a home run, eight RBIs So for

457
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Speaker 2: how much how much stock do you put in those numbers?

458
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Speaker 1: You know, Dominican winner. I mean, I mean, it's it's.

459
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Speaker 2: Better obviously than him hitting one eighty, but I guess

460
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Speaker 2: he goes you go the level.

461
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the level of pitching is probably between Double A

462
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Speaker 5: and Triple A, somewhere in that zone. As far as

463
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Speaker 5: this overall talent of pitching, the overall play is probably

464
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Speaker 5: right around Triple A level overall play. But you will

465
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Speaker 5: see some a lot of major league players, especially during

466
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Speaker 5: the playoffs, You'll start seeing more major league players filter

467
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Speaker 5: in because they want to get some work in before

468
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Speaker 5: they go put themselves in a position be ready for

469
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Speaker 5: spring training. So listen, anytime you can put up those

470
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Speaker 5: kind of numbers at any level is a good thing.

471
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Speaker 5: It sounds like he's making contact, sounds like he's getting

472
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Speaker 5: on base, and it sounds like he's stealing some bags.

473
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Speaker 5: And the fact he's got no caught stealing, it's pretty cool.

474
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Speaker 1: He's running.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of playing off for Johann Ross.

476
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Speaker 1: Let's stick on that theme. Rob Thompson.

477
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Speaker 2: Last year letting Nick Castiano started all one hundred and

478
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Speaker 2: sixty two games, rarely pulled him from the game. With

479
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Speaker 2: Rojas figuring to start most games on the bench, could

480
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Speaker 2: he be used more as a defensive replacement slash pinch

481
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Speaker 2: runner and have Nick taken out of the games, marsh

482
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Speaker 2: Rojas Kepler would give be a really good defense for

483
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Speaker 2: protecting a lead. That's from Andrew mcfeeders on X do

484
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Speaker 2: we like that idea. I love that idea. I love

485
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Speaker 2: taking a guy out late. You know, Charlie did that

486
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Speaker 2: beautifully late in the two thousand and eight season. You

487
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Speaker 2: saw Eric bruntlet out there in left field for Pat Burrow.

488
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Speaker 2: You know, you saw it, you know, all the time,

489
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Speaker 2: and I thought it worked great. I would like to

490
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Speaker 2: see more of that, quite frankly in twenty twenty five

491
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Speaker 2: from the Phillies. If Johann Rojas makes the team, it.

492
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Speaker 3: Would be a good role for him. We've kind of

493
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Speaker 3: talked about that over the last three months. We see

494
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Speaker 3: that as a role for him, fifth outfield and defensive specialists. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 3: that type of a player can really add value to

496
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Speaker 3: a good team, to a sort of playoff caliber team

497
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Speaker 3: that the Phillies are.

498
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think Passionis has done a great job

499
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Speaker 5: of working himself into being as good an out dealer

500
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Speaker 5: as he is today compared to where he was, you know,

501
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Speaker 5: two or three years ago. He's worked his ass off

502
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Speaker 5: to be very serviceable out there. But anytime you can

503
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Speaker 5: add somebody with. You know, when you can put the

504
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Speaker 5: alignment of Rosas and center, marsh and right and Kepler

505
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Speaker 5: and left, that that's going to cover some ground, that's

506
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Speaker 5: going to get some outs for you as a as

507
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Speaker 5: a especially deep in the game when you have a lead.

508
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Speaker 5: I like that idea, and I think it's something that

509
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Speaker 5: I think Rob Thompson's going to.

510
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Speaker 4: If he's going to do it, I think he sort

511
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Speaker 4: of has to.

512
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Speaker 5: Set the tone early in the season about it and

513
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Speaker 5: early in spring training. And Rob Thompson is very good

514
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Speaker 5: about communicating these things. You know, Nick may not like it,

515
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Speaker 5: but overall it may preserve him a little bit, may

516
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Speaker 5: give him some rest, may be able to eat up.

517
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Speaker 5: So I know he wanted to play every game last year,

518
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Speaker 5: but it takes its toll, and as you get older,

519
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Speaker 5: you know, playing every day it does take its toll.

520
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Speaker 5: And I don't think there's saying wrong with him getting

521
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Speaker 5: a breather.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if anybody can have that conversation with Nick,

523
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Speaker 2: I think Rob Ken he can make that happen. Uh,

524
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: here's a couple got a couple of Bryson Stott questions,

525
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Speaker 2: and I think, why in the world do we hear

526
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Speaker 2: so many rumors about Bryson Stott batting leadoff Schwarber, Harper

527
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: and Turner alway make way more sense. Do you guys

528
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: still think that we see that that's from slim on X.

529
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Speaker 1: That's something we've talked.

530
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Speaker 2: About as an idea if Bryson Stott has a good

531
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Speaker 2: season and kind of gets things turned around, and we've

532
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Speaker 2: kind of I don't know if we've fueled that fire

533
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: or added fuel to that fire, but that's something we've

534
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Speaker 2: all talked about.

535
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Speaker 1: What do you guys think of you know, why do

536
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Speaker 1: why do we hear so much about Bryson Stott? How

537
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: about this?

538
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: Why do we think Bryson Stott would make some sense

539
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: in that leadoff spot?

540
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Speaker 1: If there's a.

541
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Speaker 3: Reason the reason we hear a lot about it is,

542
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Speaker 3: you know, the manager has publicly said during the winter

543
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Speaker 3: meetings and again in October when they had their break

544
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Speaker 3: up news conference, that he would consider moving Schwarber out

545
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Speaker 3: of the leadoff hole, and previous to that, he has

546
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Speaker 3: often said that he thinks eventually Bryson Stott could be

547
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: a pretty good leadoff man. So I think that is

548
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Speaker 3: the reason why it's been speculated that he could be

549
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: that guy. But you know, they have other options. Sticking

550
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: with Schwarber, Trey Turner could hit there. But you know

551
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: with the left right and the left right and left

552
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: right throughout the lineup, there is you know, it makes

553
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 3: some sense to consider uh Stot there. But he's gotta

554
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, he's gotta make some adjustments. He's gonna he

555
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: previously was pretty good selective hitter. It wasn't as you know,

556
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: it wasn't as good in that area last year, didn't

557
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: hit fastballs as much, didn't make as much contact. If

558
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: he can improve in those areas, he might make some

559
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: sense there. But you know, there's gotta be some some improvement.

560
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: I just think it's the lineup thing is in flux

561
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be a big storyline in spring training

562
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Speaker 3: about how Rob Thompson addresses it and who he puts where.

563
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think he get the nail on

564
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Speaker 4: the head.

565
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of it depends on Bryson Statt's progress.

566
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Speaker 5: Let me just say this, in my opinion, we have

567
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Speaker 5: not seen the best version of Bryce and Stott, or

568
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: not even close. In my opinion, I think this guy

569
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Speaker 5: is a much better hitter than we've seen. I think

570
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Speaker 5: he can contribute and do a lot of things that

571
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Speaker 5: I think, frankly, that leadoff guy can can do, and

572
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 5: I think he's he would be perfectly set up for that.

573
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Speaker 5: That said, he's got to perform. He's going to have

574
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Speaker 5: to do it. And if he does, and Rob Thompson

575
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Speaker 5: does experiment with it in the early part of the

576
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: season or in spring training, he's going to have to

577
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: perform because at some point if he doesn't, then that

578
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: may be they may go back to him. I don't

579
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 5: even know if he's going to try him, but that's

580
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 5: my thought that he might be doing that, and I

581
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: think it just makes it a team better overall because

582
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Speaker 5: of the left right thing and the fact that he

583
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 5: got a lot of speed at the top. People forget

584
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 5: that Bryce and Stott can steal thirty bags and you

585
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: got another guy behind him who can steal another thirty

586
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: or forty bags. I mean you're talking about And then

587
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: you if you flip the lineup and you have Riohan

588
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: Rojas hitting in a nine to hole, holy smokes, you've

589
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: got some real back to back to back and so

590
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: that creates a lot of action on the field that

591
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 5: I think, and then dimension that the Phillies sort of

592
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 5: need and not just the power that they will provide a.

593
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Speaker 1: Few more here.

594
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Speaker 2: But first I want to say Rubin's got it sport

595
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Speaker 2: in the Phillies show t shirt.

596
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Speaker 1: Yeah he is, Yes, he is. You can go yeah

597
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Speaker 1: there you go. Shut it off, Ruben, shut up the gun.

598
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Speaker 3: Yeah and the pipes. Yeah.

599
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Speaker 2: To go to if you want to Philly show t shirt,

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Speaker 2: the phillieshow dot com.

602
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Speaker 1: You can pick your out.

603
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Speaker 2: We will ship it out to you having time for

604
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Speaker 2: spring training down in clear Water for opening day for Sure.

605
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Speaker 2: A couple more so, reportedly, the Phillies were one of

606
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Speaker 2: a host of teams that walked watched Max Schurzer throw

607
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: at Cressy Sports reformance down in Florida last week. So

608
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: I got a couple questions on that debc on X

609
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: do you see the Phillies taking a chance on Shureser

610
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Speaker 2: Phil's fan DLR on threads, what do you think it

611
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: would take to bring Sure to Philly on a one

612
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Speaker 2: year deal? And what luxury tax implications would that create?

613
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Speaker 2: Real quick on the luxury tax implications, because they're over

614
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Speaker 2: the fourth luxury tax any dollars signed dollar amount they

615
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: would sign Max Sures or two would be taxed at

616
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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent. So you sign them to

617
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Speaker 2: a one year, ten million dollar deal that the payroll

618
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Speaker 2: tax or the tax would be what what is that

619
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Speaker 2: eleven million?

620
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Speaker 1: So you'd be paying Max Sures essentially million twenty.

621
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Speaker 2: One million essentially would be geared towards Max Sures that

622
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Speaker 2: he would only get ten of that.

623
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Speaker 1: The league would get eleven million of that. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's the luxury tax implications signing Max. Sure, what do

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Speaker 1: we think about it?

626
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Speaker 3: Jim?

627
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Speaker 2: You mentioned really early in the offseason you said, I

628
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Speaker 2: don't know, is this crazy?

629
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Speaker 1: How about Max Sures are being laid any one inning guy?

630
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Speaker 1: You know? How about doing allah?

631
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Speaker 2: John Smoltz, Yeah, I loved There's a lot of parts

632
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Speaker 2: of it that I really love.

633
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Speaker 3: I love his makeup and his toughness and his competitiveness,

634
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Speaker 3: and I think he could take the ball for one

635
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: inning and go out and blow some cheese and maybe

636
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: have some success in late inning leverage. I'm not sure

637
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: he want to do it. He might want to start.

638
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how much money he wants. That changes

639
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Speaker 3: the whole thing. The way you kind of framed that

640
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: luxury tax, what the commitment would be. But there's a

641
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: lot to like about Max Scherzer. I'm not surprised they

642
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: looked at him. You know, people kind of get all

643
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: of Twitter. They scout at somebody. Well, that's their job.

644
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: They employ dozens of scouts. They have scouts living really

645
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: all over the globe. I bet they probably have four

646
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Speaker 3: scouts who live within an hour of you know, the

647
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: facility that he threw in Florida. So you go take

648
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: a peek at him, gather a little intelligence, see what happens.

649
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Speaker 3: This is, like I said, a lot I like about it,

650
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Speaker 3: but I just don't know with that luxury tax. And

651
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's coming here for one point eight million,

652
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: do you.

653
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think at all.

654
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Speaker 5: I love the idea of throwing him in there for

655
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Speaker 5: one ending and a lot of dependent on whether it's

656
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: Phillies feel that he can medically do it, the player wants.

657
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: To do it.

658
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, how important is it for him to

659
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Speaker 5: be playing just to play or is he wanting to

660
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Speaker 5: play for a team that's going to win.

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Speaker 4: And I think that is where Max Scherzer's head is

662
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Speaker 4: going to have to be at.

663
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Speaker 5: I mean, he's got his money, he's got generational money.

664
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Speaker 5: It's not an issue about that for me. It's an

665
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 5: issue about where he wants to play and what role

666
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Speaker 5: he wants to.

667
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Speaker 3: Play it in.

668
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: And you never know.

669
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Speaker 5: I mean, the Phillies have a great team. Is do

670
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: they have the Dodgers? No, but they're close and they're good.

671
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: They don't have the depth that the Dodgers have, particularly

672
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 5: in the pitching staff, but the quality is there and

673
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: the quality of players is.

674
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Speaker 4: There, and it's going to be a contending team. There's

675
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: no question in my mind.

676
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Speaker 5: Does he want to go to a contending team and

677
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: be a closer or.

678
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: Or what? You know, what is max I want to do?

679
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 5: But anytime you got a guy like that, who's a

680
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: champion and pitches like a champion and posts like a champion,

681
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: you got to consider it.

682
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Speaker 4: He would make a run at his asso. Well, but

683
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: that's not my money and it's not my team.

684
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: What would be what would what would be your number

685
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: for him that you would given you know where the

686
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Phillies are on the tax, how much would and how

687
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: delicate is that? Because you know what? Assault him?

688
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: Right?

689
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Speaker 5: Don't want to insult him, but I think if he

690
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Speaker 5: if if it is indeed you know, a contract based

691
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Speaker 5: on him being a closer, I'd give him a ten

692
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: to twelve million dollar base and then for games finished,

693
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Speaker 5: depending on how many games he finishes, I give him

694
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 5: a you know, incentives to to get him to where

695
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 5: the elite closers are. You know who are the elite

696
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: closures are between fifteen and twenty million, right, So I

697
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 5: mean I would I would escalate it to you know,

698
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: somewhere between fifteen and twenty million.

699
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: As far as cents are concerned.

700
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Speaker 3: I don't think they can do that.

701
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: I don't think they can either, but.

702
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 5: Where they are on the tax that's what I'm thinking.

703
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: That wouldn't be embarrassing for him.

704
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fine line. And how about if he

705
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: did the old Roger Clemens thing and tried to you know,

706
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 3: just keep throwing, stay in shape March, maybe in May,

707
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: June and and get you know, work on his conditioning,

708
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: whatever he's got to work on, and come in and

709
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 3: give somebody four months of a higher gun he might

710
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: That might be a pretty pretty big X factor for somebody.

711
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 4: That's sort of what we did with Pedro Martinez.

712
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's justin justin Verlin or I think I

713
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: got I'm just one year fifteen million from the Giants,

714
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: So I don't know how much that you know, that

715
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: might sure, that might make sure, might be looking at

716
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: that number, you know, because Verlin did not have a

717
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: good leader last year.

718
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Sures you know, didn't pitch much. But but all right,

719
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: two more.

720
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: It makes me wonder about the Mets. The Mets, you know,

721
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: I know they he was there and it did it

722
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: didn't really work. But one year, I mean they're gonna

723
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: you know, their rotation is not uh, there's they you know,

724
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: it's they could use help in their rotation. It's a

725
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: team I would watch. I don't know about now, but

726
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: if if Susan wanted to do that, you know, Pedro

727
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: Roger Clemens thing and become a hard gum, that would

728
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: be an interesting little subplot during the season.

729
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: And I think the Phillies have that guy, and Andrew Painter.

730
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 5: If he stays healthy, that's their guy. And it's a

731
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: much cheaper version. So but if he's gonna be considering

732
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Speaker 5: doing a different role in the back end, and the

733
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: Phillies are not feeling comfortable about who's closing out games,

734
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 5: who knows that.

735
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: Would be fun. That would be fun.

736
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Speaker 1: So two more.

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Speaker 2: This one's this guy asked me this question several times,

738
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: so I have to answer. Russell Riggins on Facebook wants

739
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: though any theme to my baseball cards behind me? Real quick, Russell.

740
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: The cards directly behind me are mostly cards from the

741
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: eighties and like the early to mid eighties, late eighties,

742
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: early nineties players I even like liked a lot when

743
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: I was a kid. So you have a lot of

744
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: robign you and Paul Malltors Brewers fan you have. I

745
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: have a lot of players that I've come in contact

746
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: with over the years, so Mike Schmidt, Larry Boa, Larry Anderson.

747
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: I have a lot of those cards on the wall

748
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: behind me. They know, just like random. But I love

749
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Leonard when I was a kid. I don't know

750
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: why he he did play for the Brewers for one

751
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: year from Philadelphia, and yeah, that's right. And the one

752
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: flap down move when he homered. I mean, come on, dude,

753
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: that was that was pretty cool. I used to imitate

754
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: that all the time in the backyard.

755
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: And then the wall right here on my left all

756
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: Phillies cards.

757
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: So all Phillies cards from the eighties, nineties, and then

758
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: I got cards from my first year on the beat

759
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: two thousand and three.

760
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Through up to like a couple of years ago. So

761
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: that's the one on the wall.

762
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: So you know, have some it's just funny like looking

763
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Speaker 2: at some of the random ones. A lot of obviously

764
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: a lot of chase at least you rounds. But then

765
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: you have like guys like Steven Susstorf, remember Haim, you

766
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: played for the Phillies for one year years ago, and

767
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: so some. So that's basically the just the theme of

768
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: the wall behind me, all big leaguers the wall on

769
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: my left.

770
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Speaker 5: Two things real quick, I go, I gotta say something

771
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 5: about that one. I can't believe I'm not on any

772
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 5: at all, because I did play in an early nineties. Again,

773
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: I see how I how I ranked number one and

774
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 5: number two.

775
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: Jeff Leonard. Jeff Leonard's from Philly quick story.

776
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 5: The Giants used to play the Stanford Cardinal before the

777
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 5: season started or sometime in the middle. And I don't

778
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: know how we made that arrangement, but I can you

779
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 5: imagine being the San Francisco Giants and going to play

780
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: the Stafford Cardinal in an exhibition game before the season started.

781
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: They were so pissed off they they would come and

782
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: play us. They would come play us at Sunken Diamond,

783
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: Jeff F. Leonard.

784
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: They were all probably pretty upset, but Jeff Leonard, apparently

785
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: or not apparently, was probably not that happy. He hit

786
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 5: a ball off of Jeff Ballard, who's the left handed

787
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: she was the Big Leagues for a while for a

788
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: couple of different teeth Baltimore and Pirates for one, but

789
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 5: he was our number one starter. He threw him a

790
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 5: little slider and Jeff Leonard hit a ball that went

791
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 5: onto the soccer field, I mean in left center field,

792
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 5: and it took him one minute and a half to

793
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 5: get around the base put the one flap down.

794
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: It was hihilarious and we were looking at each other

795
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: on the bench going, that's the funniest thing I've seen.

796
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: Lear. I had to give that that.

797
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: You know. The truth thout Ruben is this is if

798
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: I had a Ruben Tomorrow card, it would be on

799
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: this wall.

800
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: I went through every I had.

801
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Boxes of cards from my childhood, and for some reason

802
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: I did not have a single Ruben America because I

803
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: got multiple Larry Anderson cards on the wall. Larry boock cards.

804
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: You know guys that I covered throughout the years behind

805
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: me and on the wall.

806
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 9: If it was tops, if you didn't get into you

807
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 9: the first year, then they discontinued me. I was supposed

808
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 9: to be a Rookie of the Year in my first

809
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 9: week in the season in ninety two, and they said,

810
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 9: screw this guy, I'm not making any more of his cards.

811
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I gotta find one of those. I

812
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: gotta find one. If I get it, it'll be on

813
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: the wall. And the last one is listen, Tom Dylan X.

814
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: Who's everyone's favorite Philly ever? And Rubin can't say his dad?

815
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: Dylan made sure to point out, well, that goes without

816
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: saying Ruben's favorite Philly is his dad.

817
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: Of course, why wouldn't it be. But who's your number two, Ruben?

818
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: I'd have to say Schmike Schmidt. I mean, it's it's

819
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 5: kind of a no brainer. But I did have a

820
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: lot of favorites. I mean, I think I think about

821
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: some of my favorite players that I'll name a few

822
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 5: of them. Shake and Bate McBride back in the day, man,

823
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 5: I just love Shake and Bake. I just loved him,

824
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 5: loved his whole setup. The wytewong Ye. I would have

825
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: to say that Chuch was one of my favorite Phillies

826
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: when you know, when I was in the front office

827
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 5: just as a person, and then Chase Utley and uh

828
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 5: and and Roy Halladay.

829
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard for me not to I don't.

830
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 5: I don't want to sound like, you know, a Homer

831
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 5: or whatever, but those two people were special. Jimmy Rollins

832
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 5: just a special guy. I mean it's hard. It's hard

833
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 5: for me because there's so many wonderful people. I mean,

834
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: Jim Tomy, are you kidding me? He played for the

835
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 5: Phillies and was a teammate of mine with the Cleveland Indians.

836
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: So I mean, it's just so hard for me. There's

837
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: so many of them.

838
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: I just put them all up there and blanket them

839
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 5: and tell and then tell people these are just the greatest,

840
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 5: greatest players and greatest people.

841
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: Man.

842
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: I've been really blessed to be around those guys.

843
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, tough, Jim, What do you got?

844
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: I could I could, I could not name one way.

845
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: I add the guys that you like, Yeah, I could name.

846
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: The guys I didn't like covering on one hand, you know,

847
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: and the guys I loved covering on one hundred hands.

848
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: Jim who are those Let's go, now, let's go, let's

849
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: start nuke and some guys.

850
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love covering uh. I don't even want to

851
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: name anybody because I had so many favorites, you know,

852
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: I mean this week it's relevant and topical. Billy Wagner.

853
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: And I love covering Jimmy Rollins because I thought he

854
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 3: did great things on the field and said interesting things

855
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 3: after the game. The same with Kurt Shilling. But I mean,

856
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: I mean Jim Tolmy, You're blessed to know him, and

857
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: just so many others. Michael Franco. I loved Michael Franco.

858
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: He made me laugh. And just from role players to superstars.

859
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: You know, Roy Halliday was it was like a privilege

860
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: to cover his uh, to watch him go about his

861
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: work and chase the same way.

862
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: And Ryan Howard and yeah, I didn't mention Ryan Howard.

863
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 5: And now in retrospect, I mean, what a great just

864
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 5: not a great player, but a great human being.

865
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: We're talking about really really great human beings. Man.

866
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 5: I mean, there were no assholes here. These were super people.

867
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 5: And there's just so many.

868
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean how many times.

869
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I feel like now I'm

870
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: naming guys and I'm gonna you know, I just saw

871
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: Jared Ikov the other day. What a great man. Oh gosh, yeah,

872
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: that many name, and I hope I'm now I opened

873
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: the can of worms. But honestly, so many great people

874
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: and athletes. It's been a privilege to watch them.

875
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for I think for at least for

876
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: for certainly for me and Joe, I mean, Ruben as

877
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: well as you know, you you play with some of

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Speaker 2: these guys. You you uh signed some of these guys,

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00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: traded for some of these guys.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: It's also the personal interactions that you have with him.

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00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: So and then the guy that comes to the top

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00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: of the list. We had on the show last summer's

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00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: Jeff Frank cor I love and here for one year

885
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: on a really bad team. But man, was he just

886
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: a tremendous person. He still is a tremendous person. You

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00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: just just is just great guy to talk to you

888
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: was then? Is now I think of all those guys,

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00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: you know, Chooch, I mean, what a great guy to

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00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: talk you know, you see him, you see you could

891
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: joke around with you, you know, Shane Victory. All those guys,

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00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: right Greno, you know, Jason Worth I love to cover,

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00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: And then a guy like Weddy Blanco.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's not a guy that's going to be

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00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: on top of mind of most Phillies fans in terms

897
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: of guys you remember necessarily, but man, he was a

898
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: tremendous guy to cover.

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Speaker 1: Freddy Galvis, I love covering you know, he was a

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00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: guy Freddie was great.

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00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: I mean, guy that was on just bad teams, but man,

902
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: that guy wanted to win and just such a pro

903
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: and just such a great pure baseball players. So there's

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Speaker 2: you know, we could go on and on and out,

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Speaker 2: but you're right, Jim, like you think about you can

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00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: put on one handed guys, You're like, I wish that

907
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: guy was the worst, you know that, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to name those guys, but most guys

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00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: were just really good people.

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Speaker 1: And I think that kind of goes into how we

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00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: how we view those.

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Speaker 3: When when Victorino finished his career with the Red Sox,

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Speaker 3: my nephew, who's a big Red Sox fan, lives in

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Speaker 3: New England. You know, I really love that victory. I

915
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: was up there one day in the winter. I really

916
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: love that Victorino guy. He's a great dude. So I

917
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: reached down to my cell phone and I clicked Victorino's

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Speaker 3: number and he picks up, and I'm like, Shane, say,

919
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: had to my nephew is a big fan of yours.

920
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: Happen like like within four seconds, you know, and it

921
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: was just great, dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. There's a lot of guys that would would

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Speaker 1: do that type of thing, you know. So yeah, there

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Speaker 1: we go Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Next two weeks, we're gonna we're gonna still talk some

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Speaker 2: baseball though where we have some you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be talking Phillies later this week. Next week we'll be

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Speaker 2: talking super Bowl, hopefully a super Bowl win. And then

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Speaker 2: three days after the super Bowl win, Phillies pitchers and

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Speaker 2: catchers report I have their first workout in clear Water,

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Speaker 2: Floorida in February twelfth. So you know, keep coming back

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Speaker 2: to The Philly Show, folks. Can I say, go Birds,

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Speaker 2: Go Birds?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, ye, write anything you want. It's a top

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Speaker 3: pop that's right, all right, I'll see you guys later,

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Speaker 3: small lady boys, It's.

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