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Speaker 2: All right ahead, Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh My God, upset Alert. The Kansas City Chiefs at

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Speaker 1: How you're feeling, Mitchell, I'm hot right now, rich I'm

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Speaker 2: I called it.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's not forget that you called it yesterday. The

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to keep my emotions tempered. I mean, Richard,

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Speaker 1: what I'm most fired up for is your thoughts, Man,

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Speaker 1: because I have been preaching the Honolulu Blue. I've been

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Speaker 1: last year and a half on this podcast, and Richard,

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Speaker 1: by God, I think we finally got something.

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Speaker 2: You got something you're cooking with, Grease Mitchell. You're talking

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Speaker 2: about a'man Ross. Saint Brown was having a really good game,

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Speaker 2: with a victory. Now I know Chris Jones wasn't playing

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Speaker 2: back to the table calling the Chiefs like, hey, you

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Speaker 2: get it now?

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Speaker 1: Well, Richard, a couple of days ago, you predicted the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs to go to the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: lose the San Francisco forty nine ers. Obviously they were

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Speaker 1: playing a couple men down, and I would assume Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelsey would be back next week or the week thereafter.

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Speaker 1: But does this loss change your perception of the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs at all? I mean, would you drop him

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Speaker 1: off that super Bowl line after seeing this performance today?

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Speaker 1: Or is that what you're sticking with?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm sticking with that. I'm sticking with that because

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a long season. You know, there's ups

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Speaker 2: and downs of the season. He'll see that they'll get healthier.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're dangerous team when they get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: You know anything's possible in the playoffs. But they're the

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Speaker 2: most veteran team. They're a championship team. They have guys

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Speaker 2: with multiple Super Bowl rings on their fingers still on

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Speaker 2: that roster, and the quarterback being one of them multiple

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Speaker 2: multiple times super Bowl MVP, multiple time MVP, five thousand

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Speaker 2: yard pass. So I'm not counting Andy Reid those boys

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Speaker 2: out because of one game. But it's great for the

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, and I'm excited for that fan base, excited

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Speaker 2: to see what they're gonna do this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's move it out of the Detroit Lions side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. I mean, what's your perception now? I

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Speaker 1: have tooted their horn for too long, and you've always

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Speaker 1: been a little hesitant. The vandwagon is wide open, Rich

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be jumping on with me? Or are

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Speaker 1: you gonna need to see another week against your Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, when we did our preview, I

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Speaker 2: might have gave them the North.

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Speaker 1: You did give them the North.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave him the North. So I'm giving in

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Speaker 2: the North and I still think they have the playmakers

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Speaker 2: and then you know, when they get Jamison Williams back,

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Speaker 2: they'll have another dynamic playmaker that can stretch the field.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think think this guy's the limit right now.

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Speaker 2: They have to continue to develop. Defensively, there are some issues.

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Speaker 2: They got to get a little bit more pass rush going.

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Speaker 2: They have to get more pressure on the quarterback. These

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Speaker 2: dbs are solid, but they they got to get healthier.

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Speaker 2: You know. Obviously, I man has to get out there

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Speaker 2: and be able to make an impact. They have great players.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm the rest of the league, I'm concerned

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Speaker 2: because these guys are confidence, they're hungry and they were.

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Speaker 2: They were streaking last year for a reason, and they

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Speaker 2: looked like they picked up where they left off.

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Speaker 1: Well, I love to hear that, rich I'm more excited

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Speaker 1: for next week when you put them in your top

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Speaker 1: five year power ranks. That'll be That'll be a happy

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Speaker 1: day for me, Richard Mitchell, you know, I will, you

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Speaker 1: know I will. This has been a spontaneous another one,

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Speaker 1: another one, Richard, we bet went back to back. We're

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Speaker 1: going back to back. Like I guess what, rich We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking a lot more about the Lions going

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Speaker 1: forward this year. I appreciate you guys all for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I'll let Richard sign us off.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys. Another episode of the Richard Sherman Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We'll Sunday night after these great games. Can't wait

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Speaker 1: The volume