Speaker 1: Morning, everybody in stee j Envy Cholamagne to God.
Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Of course, Jess Hilarius is here yesterday, and we got
Speaker 1: a special guest in the building, dn.
Speaker 2: Co Hello, Hello, Hello, how's everybody doing? Everybody's black and
Speaker 2: Holly Favor. Yes, yes, yes, I'm happy to see you.
Speaker 3: I can't I'm just I'm so happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely, man, thanks for having me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely a lot to talk about. You got average Joe,
Speaker 2: aren't you.
Speaker 4: You're in a new color purple too?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, absolutely, yeah yeah, new color purple, Average Joe.
Speaker 1: We just talked about that yesterday. We were talking about
Speaker 1: they just released the trailer and what's your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the movie, because we were like, color Purple? Is that
Speaker 1: a movie that.
Speaker 2: You do over hard to remake? Classics? Man? So the
Speaker 2: director Blizz I don't know he did. Beyonces. Remember when
Speaker 2: she was doing like the Lion King where she was
Speaker 2: Liken Jay. They was like.
Speaker 4: Live action line King.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but remember this video she had. It was like
Speaker 2: a twenty minute video where she was like and cars
Speaker 2: and on the beach running and Jay had these like
Speaker 2: suits and stuff whatever. It was like very beautifully. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: all of that. Yeah, yeah, he directed all of that,
Speaker 2: and so for him to take that vision then apply
Speaker 2: it to this movie, it's like bananas. Plus it's a
Speaker 2: different spin on it. It's a whole different spin on
Speaker 2: a color purple. So it's gonna be way different than
Speaker 2: than the other one. But still in it's on, right,
Speaker 2: you know, holding up to what it is. But I
Speaker 2: ain't really big on remakes neither like that. But but
Speaker 2: this one, y'all, it's crazy because it's a different perspective now.
Speaker 4: That I was saying the twenty twenty three you can't
Speaker 4: do color purple.
Speaker 2: You have to have to be woken. Yeah, yeah, so much. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a whole different, whole different look on it, a
Speaker 2: whole different spin on it.
Speaker 1: But you know, some of the remakes, like I didn't
Speaker 1: like Coming to America too, right, I just the first
Speaker 1: one was is classic.
Speaker 2: I don't think you touched that. Yeah, I didn't like.
Speaker 1: There was another remake that they did, but people told
Speaker 1: me white Man can't Jump. I didn't want to go
Speaker 1: see that, but people telling me it's really really good,
Speaker 1: so I guess it can if they come from a
Speaker 1: different perspective. A New way House Party was another one
Speaker 1: I didn't like.
Speaker 2: I thought I didn't. I don't really like that one.
Speaker 1: But when they do it from a different perspective or shot, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I play a Fonso, so I play Seely's father.
Speaker 4: That's when I take you can't have you can't have
Speaker 4: I can't remember the girl, you can't have her, but
Speaker 4: you can have.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, yeah, I played him. They kept that line
Speaker 2: in there. No, no, it's it's different. Yeah, but you
Speaker 2: know you still you still get it, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just still he's still that dude got yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I still call it ugly and woke away just because
Speaker 2: of this new era. I mean, yo, yeah I do.
Speaker 2: I do hate it definitely. That's why I don't understand
Speaker 2: why people who don't like that kind of stuff, Like
Speaker 2: why do you even come to the shows? You're messing
Speaker 2: it up for the people that really pay to come
Speaker 2: see and hear bullshit, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: why would you come in there with your beliefs and
Speaker 2: feelings about something that I thought of And you ain't
Speaker 2: in my world, You ain't in my tax bracket, you
Speaker 2: ain't around the people I'm around. You ain't not about
Speaker 2: my culture, but you come over here and try to
Speaker 2: tell me what I need to be saying and doing.
Speaker 2: It don't even make sense. So yeah, I hate that
Speaker 2: that we have to kind of conform to that. And
Speaker 2: I heard somebody say that in the interview that we
Speaker 2: don't if and it's not a problem, And it is
Speaker 2: a problem, I think honestly. You got Lenny, Bruce and
Speaker 2: Richard and all these people stood up for us to
Speaker 2: be able to say whatever we want to say, and
Speaker 2: now we can't. It's like it's crazy to take away
Speaker 2: from the whole thing. It's like, now you go to
Speaker 2: comedy shows and they tell you what they think you
Speaker 2: want to hear in order to be safe, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But there's certain comics that are still
Speaker 2: out on the front line that get loose, you know,
Speaker 2: like Dave just just don't give a fuck about nothing,
Speaker 2: you know. So you've got great comics that's still out
Speaker 2: here fighting for that that that voice that we all
Speaker 2: have and that people want to hear, except for certain
Speaker 2: people that don't.
Speaker 4: So, and your circumstance is unique because you you definitely
Speaker 4: edgy on stage, but then you got all the corporate
Speaker 4: shit going on. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah yeah I can't Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't say exactly what I want to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what that that's my whole life, sitting
Speaker 2: back trying to figure out another way. That's what. That's
Speaker 2: all I do. I'd be like, how can I say
Speaker 2: this another way and still be able to say it?
Speaker 1: But you know, you to face an old Spice bro
Speaker 1: crazy Like that's why if you really think about it,
Speaker 1: it's really wild.
Speaker 2: It's likely the.
Speaker 4: Two people Dan Cole, the dude who used to ride
Speaker 4: the horseback.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, it's crazy right yeah.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even even when they came to me about it, and.
Speaker 1: I was just like, wow, they can't even say, hey,
Speaker 1: we want you to do this old Spice commercially, the
Speaker 1: fake what was your thought?
Speaker 2: So at first they came to me and they was like,
Speaker 2: I guess they'd seen me do all these different kind
Speaker 2: of like quirky like characters like on Anti Tribeca and
Speaker 2: Conan and Blackish, and I was doing all these like
Speaker 2: trippy characters, and I guess they was like, yo, it
Speaker 2: made sense where it was like yo, you come in
Speaker 2: and Yo we can all we can rock and I
Speaker 2: was like yeah, I was like, yeah, I can do that.
Speaker 2: So they flew me to Portugal, man, and I shot
Speaker 2: all of this basically how old spikes get down, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like really wild in the woods
Speaker 2: and beard grow and throwing trees and you know, I
Speaker 2: did all of that, and then I came back to
Speaker 2: the US and there's like didn't want to use none
Speaker 2: all of that and then use none of it. And
Speaker 2: then they came to me about something else. And then
Speaker 2: me and I, me and this other guy were just
Speaker 2: sitting I mean this other guy he was que he
Speaker 2: was writing this whole new premise. And then when they
Speaker 2: came to me about it, and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: that's cool, and so we did it, and man it
Speaker 2: took off, you know, just me and my girl Gap. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we just we just got it.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just I went and grabbed Gab and I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, they're thinking about this, this thing where
Speaker 2: relationships a couple and trying to take your old spice,
Speaker 2: and you know, they was like, yeah, let's do it
Speaker 2: this man, we did it.
Speaker 3: And because it's a storyline commercial, I was supposed to
Speaker 3: be in one of them. Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know. They picked like.
Speaker 2: You thought about like family, and it was the person
Speaker 2: that know you're.
Speaker 3: Here, supposed to tell me get your black ass hands
Speaker 3: on something. And again because somebody else.
Speaker 2: Never would have said that podcast.
Speaker 3: I cut the TV every time I see that that's
Speaker 3: supposed to be me.
Speaker 2: I'm serious.
Speaker 3: I was supposed to be as.
Speaker 4: I was supposed to almost be something.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know.
Speaker 6: That really ain't gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: You know you were at the top. I want to know,
Speaker 3: are you doctor because I saw you just you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Like if somebody on the plane high out
Speaker 2: they need a doctor, they ass out, but it ain't
Speaker 2: Jack the doctor. But yeah, yeah, I just got that,
Speaker 2: just got yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Calander Smith College, which
Speaker 2: is now about university. Yeah, thanks man. How did you
Speaker 2: for all the work that you did and everything? Yeah
Speaker 2: yeah absolutely, and uh paid for his Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got an endowment at South Carolina State University, Okay,
Speaker 4: made an honorary doctor, yeah it is. And I get
Speaker 4: a commitment speech.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah I did too. It was wild. I gave mine.
Speaker 2: They really didn't give two funks. And what I was saying,
Speaker 2: I thought I was dropping some gyms. They was sitting
Speaker 2: down there on their phone and ship. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: was out there like this. You might have been taken.
Speaker 2: I don't think so do you keep going when you
Speaker 2: see that? Man? It was I was bombing, like for real,
Speaker 2: like I was. I was giving it and then it'd
Speaker 2: be like a couple of chuckles, a couple of coughs,
Speaker 2: and then I just keep going, like just going on
Speaker 2: to the next topic or whatever. But yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was thinking. I was doing like stand up. You
Speaker 2: thinking in front of an audience like that, you're about
Speaker 2: to be ripping.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 2: They was out there like, nah, I want to see
Speaker 2: my baby cross and get her degree. And that's what
Speaker 2: I'm here for. That's standing up, muscled on kicking.
Speaker 4: When you see people like ignoring you because you know
Speaker 4: you you get at somebody for that.
Speaker 2: Nah, Like nah, I'm I'm quick to leave. I leave, leave,
Speaker 2: I leave like a motherfucker. I leave. Man. I done
Speaker 2: left some shows. Yeah, I try it and I keep going.
Speaker 2: If it ain't working, I just know that I ain't
Speaker 2: for them, and I go, I'm Trevor good Night. I
Speaker 2: leave a whole nother name. I'm Shun piece out Nashville Sunky.
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta be one of the most jack
Speaker 4: comedian is too, because sometimes I'll come across a funny meme.
Speaker 2: I can just be words and I'll.
Speaker 4: Repost it and then everybody be like that's on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I you know you try to be different
Speaker 2: and just think outside the box all the time and
Speaker 2: just try to make a career out of that, and
Speaker 2: just try to always go left and you know, think
Speaker 2: outside the box, and you know, just keep it as
Speaker 2: as as real as possible. You know, like when I'm
Speaker 2: on stage and I read off my paper, like a
Speaker 2: lot of those jokes I written and used, but I
Speaker 2: always do one joke that that isn't that I've never
Speaker 2: done before because I wanted not to work because it's funny,
Speaker 2: not being funny in a sense. I think I made
Speaker 2: a craft out of that. Just you ever watch somebody bomb?
Speaker 2: I love it? Yeah, you love it? Don't you tell
Speaker 2: me the time?
Speaker 4: Have you see me laughing hard somebody bombing somebody?
Speaker 2: I'm really engaged? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like that too, like hilarious with that. I want to
Speaker 3: go see him one time. I know. This is his
Speaker 3: interview in not Mine but I want to go see
Speaker 3: him in LA and that's his first time I seen
Speaker 3: him in person. And he does that like he will
Speaker 3: tell the joke and if and it's so funny because
Speaker 3: he wants it not to work, but it does. And
Speaker 3: it's like, yo, stop trying to not be funny, like
Speaker 3: you're just funny. Like and then he said, he said,
Speaker 3: when you really throw one work and it was like
Speaker 3: a couple of chuckles and he was like, no, if
Speaker 3: it don't work, don't don't force to laugh, Like, no,
Speaker 3: you don't have to force to laugh. That was so
Speaker 3: funny just seeing him doing that and then seeing it
Speaker 3: done so long ago when I first started watching comedy.
Speaker 3: It's crazy he still does it and it's still like
Speaker 3: the first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. This is you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's because people tend to forget it's about laughing. You
Speaker 2: think how you laugh, it's about you laughing, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm not here to have you laugh
Speaker 2: a particular way. It's like you're laughing if you laugh
Speaker 2: at anything I do, it's funny, but I think it's
Speaker 2: funny not being funny. So I make sure I do
Speaker 2: a joke that does not work, and so people would
Speaker 2: laugh at it. And it's funny to me to hear
Speaker 2: people laugh at it, and then when they do laugh
Speaker 2: at it, it's just like, I really know that I
Speaker 2: got that audience. But when they don't laugh, what did you.
Speaker 4: First realize you was funny? Like I'm talking about forget comedy.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about back in the.
Speaker 2: Day I never did. It was a friend of mine's,
Speaker 2: dude named Gwill Like. We was on some ill shit
Speaker 2: in Chicago, and you know, I never even thought comedy,
Speaker 2: but he used to always listen to me just have
Speaker 2: different outtakes on things and different views, and he would
Speaker 2: just always be like, you should do comedy. You should
Speaker 2: do comedy. I used to be like goddamny. And one
Speaker 2: day he bet me to go on stage, and I
Speaker 2: went on and never look back because I start really
Speaker 2: because I always thought comics was like, you know, slipping
Speaker 2: on bananas and pied to the face that motherfuckers. And
Speaker 2: you know, then I realized that there's comedians. Then after
Speaker 2: I did it, I started doing research and I started
Speaker 2: seeing like George Garland and then Degenerous and all these
Speaker 2: other great comics that were like, you know, like I
Speaker 2: mean obviously I knew about Red Fox and you know,
Speaker 2: moms maybe and all them or whatever. But I started
Speaker 2: seeing comedians that wasn't throwing piles in their faces, who
Speaker 2: was just standing there talking, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you could be funny like that and not move. I
Speaker 2: was like yeah, because that was my whole demeanor anyway.
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't like no people people come up to
Speaker 2: me this day I went to high school with.
Speaker 5: They was like, boy, he was silly as hell in
Speaker 5: high school. I'd be like, I ain't even speak to
Speaker 5: you in high school, Like I wasn't. I wasn't even
Speaker 5: silly in school. I used to just be quiet. I
Speaker 5: was always a thinker of being the only child.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So you're a writer as well. How was the writing
Speaker 1: strike affecting you? Especially with you being on all these
Speaker 1: shows as well?
Speaker 2: And just you can't do nothing. I'm shooting this uh.
Speaker 2: I was doing this thing up in Toronto and the
Speaker 2: script was already in so we're working on it now,
Speaker 2: shooting this drama. And I had a question and there
Speaker 2: was nobody what.
Speaker 1: Happened in that case?
Speaker 2: Could you change yourself?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: You just just go however you need to go about it.
Speaker 2: You know, but hopefully you do it right, you know,
Speaker 2: but it ain't nobody talk to all. The writer's gone.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gone, and I can't even shows that I had
Speaker 2: on deck to uh, you know, like about to sail
Speaker 2: and about to do like they all been halted and
Speaker 2: I can't do nothing. Just chill and stand up, you know,
Speaker 2: that's it. Just go out, hit the road or whatever.
Speaker 2: Because everybody chilling in LA right now. If you come
Speaker 2: to LA right now is mad traffic, yo, Like you
Speaker 2: can't go nowhere because everybody's off work and everybody just
Speaker 2: kicking it now, like all the writers and ship they
Speaker 2: everybody just partying, traveling, and but yeah, the traffic is
Speaker 2: terrible right now because everybody ain't nobody at work.
Speaker 4: How do you feel like AI is going to impact
Speaker 4: the future of Hollywood?
Speaker 2: Yo? I went to AI and I said, hey, just
Speaker 2: to like mess around, I said, write a script about
Speaker 2: lady bugs. And that shit started off like in the
Speaker 2: backyard of this one house over on the corner in Maryland,
Speaker 2: the trees are going. They wrote it. It was writing
Speaker 2: an entire script about ladybugs. And that's all you say,
Speaker 2: That's all I said to it. Wrote the entire script.
Speaker 2: I wrote the breakdown first thing in the morning exit
Speaker 2: inserts like just wrote that, myfucking dude. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: that's crazy, but yeah, that's gonna, that's gonna that's gonna
Speaker 2: really mess up everything right now. I heard that they're
Speaker 2: doing this now. But they're calling people and if you
Speaker 2: pick up the phone, you go hello kids, No, they
Speaker 2: get your voice, take your voice, and then reduplicate it, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then use it to call other people and say
Speaker 2: like they you need money and all that other stuff.
Speaker 4: So oh yeah, they was doing that with kids too,
Speaker 4: Like they'll call your phone and I guess they get
Speaker 4: your kids voice from social media and you can be
Speaker 4: like help help.
Speaker 2: Mommy, help help. They ask you for ransom. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: That's what they doing with that ship.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: It's crazy as fuck right now, right so it's like
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, that a is going it's gonna tear
Speaker 2: everything up on top of everybody being like kind of
Speaker 2: dumb as hell. Right now. You see that, you see
Speaker 2: that I posted this video about these kids they cannot
Speaker 2: read clocks. Did you see that? Like a round clock number?
Speaker 2: They do not know how to read clocks. But then
Speaker 2: you start thinking about it. Am I older? They like dumb,
Speaker 2: like a little bit, but it's a little but they
Speaker 2: are so they don't have clocks. How old were they?
Speaker 2: They was like teenagers. Oh that's stupid, but they man,
Speaker 2: one man, they honestly was on that like this. I
Speaker 2: ain't never even seen one of those around clock. Think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: We don't really see him see digital clocks round clock even.
Speaker 1: I take this step further. I was talking to somebody
Speaker 1: that was late the other day and he was like,
Speaker 1: my phone died, and what you don't think about? You know,
Speaker 1: everything is connected to electricity back in the day. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but my dad used to have a wind
Speaker 1: up clock so no matter what.
Speaker 2: It would always go off.
Speaker 1: He never would have to worry about being late electricity
Speaker 1: went out or forget to save it. So he was like,
Speaker 1: these kids know nothing about that. So if the phone
Speaker 1: does they they don't.
Speaker 2: They have no idea. They was asking them like they
Speaker 2: was asking them. They was on that. They was on
Speaker 2: there like yeah, it's nine seventy six, Like dude, they
Speaker 2: was trying to figure out the time. The dude was
Speaker 2: like holding the clock and he was like, what time
Speaker 2: is this? There's like nine seventy six.
Speaker 3: This is in America.
Speaker 2: In America, y'all. But it had me thinking, like, man,
Speaker 2: we owe as hell where nobody knows a lot of reason.
Speaker 3: Just things get out of you know, you just get
Speaker 3: out of touch with things. I mean because honestly, just
Speaker 3: clocks half clocks all over my house. But I don't tell.
Speaker 4: Time on them. They risk to the time when they
Speaker 4: were flood them.
Speaker 3: Out because it's nice. I'm gonna be like, I'm never
Speaker 3: it's my watch face not playing three o'clock. We just
Speaker 3: got away from you think about it.
Speaker 1: People don't necessarily buy watches for time now as an accessory.
Speaker 2: What time is the first thing you do?
Speaker 1: You can pull out your phone, Dude, I got a
Speaker 1: nice watch on.
Speaker 2: It's so wow. You gotta be attention to that ship,
Speaker 2: like straight up, like it be little ship like that
Speaker 2: that you be like whoa the world? Change it? Like
Speaker 2: right now I'm looking at your face you over there
Speaker 2: like damn na face changed. Didn't get some problems. Didn't
Speaker 2: touch my nose.
Speaker 1: But even navigation thinks about navigation. Right now I'm driving around,
Speaker 1: I can know, I can know where my house is.
Speaker 1: I still put in a navigation. Now, let's say that
Speaker 1: the Ways app don't work, a Google Maps don't work,
Speaker 1: be lost.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, where am I gonna?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Gone, it ain't no way to get that unless you, like,
Speaker 2: like a lot of old people, they still be carrying.
Speaker 3: Maps, map quest and stuff like that. I know people
Speaker 3: that still well they're older obviously, but people that still
Speaker 3: print off directions. But I think you were a lot
Speaker 3: on it because I do the same thing. We just
Speaker 3: rely on it because we know we got it. If
Speaker 3: you ever just try to get home, you would get there.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not talking about home, but like one
Speaker 1: places like let's say you gotta go from Baltimore here, right,
Speaker 1: and you know you you got to take ninety five
Speaker 1: to the turnpike through the tunnel. Now you ain't got
Speaker 1: no navigation. You're gonna be like, damn, which where am
Speaker 1: I going?
Speaker 2: In?
Speaker 3: Right? I'm gonna I'm gonna eventually get home because I
Speaker 3: know what I got to take to get here to
Speaker 3: get there, and freed signs and all of that. But
Speaker 3: I would, yeah, I would literally lose my mind just
Speaker 3: because this is easier so that sometimes we use it.
Speaker 3: We don't even need it.
Speaker 4: That's crazy to hear y'all. I've seen you justin I
Speaker 4: know you did.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 4: Comedians have like photographic memori because you'll have to remember
Speaker 4: jokes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that, but I don't know where the hell I'm
Speaker 2: going GV. I got this old chick cosh Yeah on
Speaker 2: Star God.
Speaker 3: The button at the top is like make I love No.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you got average joke coming out to it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I as Joe. Man. It's this was thank you so much.
Speaker 2: It was, man, this is a labor of love. It's
Speaker 2: like a darkly comedic drama takes place in Pittsburgh. Dude,
Speaker 2: he his father dies and these mob dudes is looking
Speaker 2: for him and the Joe. He don't know what's going on,
Speaker 2: but his father left some money trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what's going on, and he had to make these decisions
Speaker 2: between like, you know, family and money. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a it's a super like it's funny, but
Speaker 2: it's it's dark as darkest hair. Like we was leaving
Speaker 2: set miserable just from being like a comic. You gotta
Speaker 2: you know you you can be good to do comedy,
Speaker 2: but every day just to leave murdering motherfuckers and Lyon
Speaker 2: and seaful and heartache and losing people and every day
Speaker 2: you leave.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: That was the first time time I started realizing I
Speaker 2: understand how like people kind of break when they when
Speaker 2: they do movies and stuff. That was the very first
Speaker 2: time I used to be like, he ain't that deep
Speaker 2: into characters. But nah, Like if you keep doing that
Speaker 2: and you have to constantly be that person, do that
Speaker 2: like to like that's that ship wear on you. I
Speaker 2: used to always think, like, like with Park, they always
Speaker 2: say Park became like, yeah, he became Bishop from Juice
Speaker 2: or whatever. But at first I never really kind of
Speaker 2: like believe that ship. But yeah, And I saw Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan's talk about how he had to go to rehab
Speaker 2: after Noah. He said, I think it was Fruitville or
Speaker 2: it was no I think it was Wakanda. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I remember him saying that he had
Speaker 2: to go to like rehab, thought it was Wakanda. It
Speaker 2: might but a lot of a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of actors got to do that anyway.
Speaker 2: That's how that show was. Man, we was down there,
Speaker 2: we were shooting in the lineup. Boy, it was like
Speaker 2: we was doing like sixteen hours sometimes twenty hours shooting
Speaker 2: that shipping. But but we got a nice piece of work,
Speaker 2: and man, it's gonna be something if y'all like Murder
Speaker 2: and Mayhem. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna love.
Speaker 2: This is your lead.
Speaker 6: Crazy the first time Crazy she's looking at you talk
Speaker 6: about this amazing because even as comics, we we can
Speaker 6: still we can play any part, we can do anything.
Speaker 3: You always think of Robin Williams, you know, the comics.
Speaker 2: Especially going from comedy to Drive and Jim.
Speaker 3: Carrey and you know, even like what you just say,
Speaker 3: like how you sixteen hours? You got a status person
Speaker 3: and you got it. It's like you used to being,
Speaker 3: you know, but no, it's different. But the fact that you.
Speaker 2: Can do it. Yeah, but it's like I remember when
Speaker 2: I when they when when they when I took the job,
Speaker 2: because usually I'm I'm a type of cat. I go
Speaker 2: play my part and I go get my drop top
Speaker 2: and we rolling, you know what I mean, Like that's
Speaker 2: I did on Blackets for eight years. I did my
Speaker 2: part and that was out. I was gone. Why when
Speaker 2: I I signed on to do this and seeing like
Speaker 2: sixty paid scripts and I'm in like ninety percent of it.
Speaker 2: I'm looking like, like I got a real job. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can't leave. They like, man, the first one here,
Speaker 2: last to leave. You like what it was an adjustment
Speaker 2: because I still had other things going on and other
Speaker 2: businesses and other projects and trying to write that and
Speaker 2: do that and trying to do this. I had to
Speaker 2: learn to I had to cut all that out, just
Speaker 2: focus dead on this and get it done. But yeah,
Speaker 2: being you gotta watch what you pray for. You gotta
Speaker 2: know how to pray. You know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't know how to pray. And you know, that was
Speaker 2: one of the things that I learned. You know, a
Speaker 2: person to ask, man, Lord, can I have a man?
Speaker 2: Can I have a woman? And they'll get you one
Speaker 2: and they don't have a job, I won't have. I
Speaker 2: forgot to ask for a job with that person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you just got you gotta now pray man. But no,
Speaker 2: it was it was an amazing, amazing thing that shifted
Speaker 2: my whole mind and mind frame as far as acting
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, just uh you know, taking on
Speaker 2: those those responsibilities when it.
Speaker 4: Comes to comedy and drama, right, they always say it's
Speaker 4: a thin line, that's where the whole tears of a
Speaker 4: clown thing come from a comic.
Speaker 2: You don't lean into trauma. Yeah, absolutely, that's that's exactly
Speaker 2: what I did, you know what I mean. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't like that at first, like like, uh, another another
Speaker 2: turning point. When we was doing the Hearder They Fall,
Speaker 2: I was like I walked on set and was like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's going on, Hey, what's going on on? Funny and comedian? Comedian?
Speaker 2: I remember Jonathan Age's and all them, they was just
Speaker 2: all sitting back and del Roy Lindo, they was all
Speaker 2: just quiet, just chilling. I was like, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2: And beyond Hey, so we're gonna knock this out and
Speaker 2: we're gonna They was just like And then when we werehearsed,
Speaker 2: they was just like so like and like it was
Speaker 2: so real, and so it just was like, man, I
Speaker 2: remember Jonathan told me, he was like, man, you shouldn't
Speaker 2: acting is the worst title for this job. This is
Speaker 2: what you should not be doing. You should not be acting.
Speaker 2: You should become you should become that person instead of acting.
Speaker 2: And so it made me be like, oh really, So
Speaker 2: then I went back changed my whole demean up. Man
Speaker 2: just from that conversation and came back and was like,
Speaker 2: all right, we gotta we gotta just become this person.
Speaker 2: And I remember that all the time, just becoming you know,
Speaker 2: So isn't that dangerous thoughing?
Speaker 4: You gotta unpack that personally disconnect?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta. You gotta go home by yourself.
Speaker 2: Don't go hang out and kick it and all that,
Speaker 2: you know, cause you you you don't know when you
Speaker 2: turn in that off. That's if you get deep enough.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't really get like that because
Speaker 2: they don't go deep enough. But if you go deep enough,
Speaker 2: you really gotta go home by yourself, and you got
Speaker 2: to like just chill and like just just just have
Speaker 2: a moment to like just bring it down or whatever,
Speaker 2: you know. So you know, I had I had to.
Speaker 2: I had to kind of learn that, you know, because
Speaker 2: I still was trying to kick it and go do
Speaker 2: stand up. I'll go set and then go do stand up.
Speaker 2: And I can see it in my stand up. I
Speaker 2: was up there gloomy as fuck, dude, Like, yeah, so
Speaker 2: if you ever see a lady and she it'd be
Speaker 2: like this just staring at me and ship I just
Speaker 2: be like sad, as hell. I'm saying good night everybody,
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta gotta cut it off.
Speaker 4: What about when you're not in the mind state to
Speaker 4: joke all work, like like like like did you give
Speaker 4: yourself time to grieve after your mother passed?
Speaker 2: So I am like still dealing with that, Like that's
Speaker 2: like that's like really fucking with me still, And I'm
Speaker 2: trying because I was the only child, you know, no brother,
Speaker 2: no father. Yeah no, thank you man. And I'm still
Speaker 2: like That's why I try to stay as busy as
Speaker 2: possible because anytime I like have downtime or anything good
Speaker 2: happened like that, shit fuck with me because I'd be
Speaker 2: wishing she was here, that she can like that she
Speaker 2: could be here and be a part of that. And
Speaker 2: people out there that that's going through the state, they
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, Like anything good happen to you.
Speaker 2: You just it's like a bitter sweet moment, you know,
Speaker 2: like even with the color purple coming out, I'm not
Speaker 2: like like it in it like that, but I just
Speaker 2: wish my mama would have been there to see that.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's things like that, even average Joe
Speaker 2: being the lead, it's like I wish my mama was
Speaker 2: here so she could like like see that and feel that,
Speaker 2: because there's stuff we talked about, even getting my doctorate
Speaker 2: for her to know that her son was now like
Speaker 2: like like doctor, like having a degree like that. It's
Speaker 2: just that would have like center, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So anytime these situations happen, it's like it's nice, but
Speaker 2: I also just get in too, like like and people
Speaker 2: don't and people always be like you need to go
Speaker 2: talk to somebody and something, and it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can do that, but this just happened to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like, I don't know
Speaker 2: nobody who has something like this can just happen to
Speaker 2: you and you go talk to somebody and you all good.
Speaker 2: If anybody's like that, they weird to me, Like you
Speaker 2: should be able to agree, like you said, and you
Speaker 2: should be able to have these moments and you don't
Speaker 2: rush people in these situations, you know, just just be
Speaker 2: there for them, you know. And I had a lot
Speaker 2: of people leave me, Like a lot of people leave
Speaker 2: me because I wasn't who they wanted me to be
Speaker 2: when I was good, I know, but everybody left and
Speaker 2: it was weird. And people out there that's dealing with death,
Speaker 2: they know what I'm talking about. Like, people leave you
Speaker 2: because you change. And now I'm not the person out
Speaker 2: out that that I was when they met me. And
Speaker 2: I understand that. But if you're a good friend and
Speaker 2: you really there, you're gonna you're gonna understand the severity
Speaker 2: of this, and you're gonna understand that, you know, being
Speaker 2: the only child and not having nobody else and no mother,
Speaker 2: no father, nothing like that, and that that's gonna wail
Speaker 2: on you. You you basically in the world alone, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You really don't have nobody else,
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I got family, cousins and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But me, it's it's hard. Man. I go through it
Speaker 2: every day and I try to try to be better.
Speaker 2: And you know, I remember this lady said this to
Speaker 2: me one day and I was this guy. I was
Speaker 2: at this car lot and I was sitting in the
Speaker 2: car and I was crying, like looking at cars and
Speaker 2: shit like because it's just come whenever, you know, And
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there looking at the car like, man, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I'm crying, and sales guy came over. He was like,
Speaker 2: you all right, and I'm like yeah, and I told
Speaker 2: him I lost my mom. He just started crying, crying
Speaker 2: and he was hugging me, and I'm just like, man like.
Speaker 2: He was like he lost his mom like ten years
Speaker 2: ago and it still affect him.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: He was like he's a whole. He said, you were
Speaker 2: around fifty years old, and I'm like yeah, and he
Speaker 2: was like, welcome to the club. And I was like,
Speaker 2: wonder what he was saying. He was like, yeah, anybody
Speaker 2: around fifty, it's a club of people who lose their parents.
Speaker 2: Because our parents is like seventy at eighties years old.
Speaker 2: And he was like, and when you hit about fifty,
Speaker 2: that's around the age that everybody's mother's fathers, everybody started
Speaker 2: going away. And he was like and so it's that club.
Speaker 2: And he was like, welcome to fifty. And I was
Speaker 2: just like he was like, welcome to the club. And
Speaker 2: I was just like damn. And I started thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and it's like that, and so I try to advocate.
Speaker 2: Tell everybody, man, if you got your mother, your father,
Speaker 2: any of that, man, take pictures of them, video of them,
Speaker 2: talk to them. Even if you don't get along with them,
Speaker 2: just be around them, man, because you just never know
Speaker 2: because my mom dies suddenly was nothing wrong with just
Speaker 2: I came from audition calling her and they was like,
Speaker 2: she didn't make it, and thinking that she was going
Speaker 2: to an appointment. I was like an appointment. I was like, Nah,
Speaker 2: she ain't make it, and I'm like make what? You
Speaker 2: could not understand that shit? Like, what do you mean
Speaker 2: she make it? He told me that shit? I just
Speaker 2: like what. I was like, I just talked to her.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Yoh?
Speaker 2: That's it was like wow. I didn't even want to,
Speaker 2: Like even with my Netflix special, I didn't even want
Speaker 2: to do that. That wasn't even something I was planning
Speaker 2: to do. But I got cornered into shooting that special
Speaker 2: on that day, you know, like the day that my
Speaker 2: mom died, September tenth, and I was looking for a spot.
Speaker 2: Usually when you tour, if you're about to shoot a special,
Speaker 2: you won't perform in that city. So I was gonna
Speaker 2: do Philly. Philly was the city I was gonna shoot
Speaker 2: my special win, but we were taking too long with
Speaker 2: the deal and I ended up doing Philly. Right now,
Speaker 2: I had nowhere else to go and I wanted to shoot.
Speaker 2: I thought about New York. But I just was like,
Speaker 2: you got to be from New York in order to
Speaker 2: do New York, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 2: New York is just different, you know, It's like you
Speaker 2: got to be from there. But when it came around
Speaker 2: to me shooting special Netflix is like, you got shooting September,
Speaker 2: and I was like, make sure it's at the inner
Speaker 2: September because I know I couldn't shoot around A year
Speaker 2: later from the day my mom passed. They came back
Speaker 2: not even knowing they was like this, yeah, we got
Speaker 2: the venue. I'm like, man, let's do it. I was
Speaker 2: like what day They was like September tenth, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I said nah. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna do it. Then about days later, my
Speaker 2: mom was like, you know what, don't even mourn like that,
Speaker 2: like celebrate her. Shoot on that day. Dedicate this to
Speaker 2: her and celebrate her. Because when people passed, man, you
Speaker 2: have to like make them live through you. Of course,
Speaker 2: even if it's a password, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: if you get it, if you set a password and
Speaker 2: you put their name in every day, you that's that's
Speaker 2: every day, stay with you every day, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, and so I was like, didn't word no,
Speaker 2: I did not no, but y'all and I just was like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna shoot it, and I shot it like on
Speaker 2: that day. But I also was trying to show people
Speaker 2: and teach people that with comedians and entertain us, even y'all,
Speaker 2: people don't understand we got problems and when we perform
Speaker 2: and you never know what that comic is going through.
Speaker 2: So that was a whole deal with my Netflix special.
Speaker 2: It was that I wanted to perform without telling nobody
Speaker 2: what was going on, and then at the end of
Speaker 2: the special let them know I was up here rocking
Speaker 2: with y'all. You're not even knowing what I was going through.
Speaker 2: I just cried right before I walked out on stage.
Speaker 2: I was backstage wiping my eyes, took a deep breath,
Speaker 2: and walked out there, performed the whole special with them
Speaker 2: not even knowing that this was like the one year
Speaker 2: anniversary of my mom's death, and I wanted tend to
Speaker 2: see that us performers, we had to put aside whatever
Speaker 2: we're going through, even with y'all. Y'all, man, y'all got
Speaker 2: to come here and work every day every day, and
Speaker 2: you and the more family got more problems you've got
Speaker 2: and so if you got six kids, you got six
Speaker 2: sets of goddamn problems, then you still got to come
Speaker 2: here work. And so I wanted that special to show that, Hey,
Speaker 2: while y'all see me up here performing whatever and without
Speaker 2: even saying nothing at the end of it, I want
Speaker 2: you to know this is what I was going through
Speaker 2: this entire time that I was filming this shooting and
Speaker 2: doing it in Brooklyn. Was like, they showed so much love,
Speaker 2: but I was so scared. I ain't gonna lie because
Speaker 2: I ain't know what Brooklyn I was gonna get. I
Speaker 2: ain't know if it's gonna be biggie Brooklyn, Uh, gentrified
Speaker 2: Brooklyn or righteous Brooklyn. Righteous Brooklyn. If I said bitch,
Speaker 2: they was.
Speaker 7: Like brother on like the material ain't working, Like man,
Speaker 7: I ain't mean it like that, brother, Like you know,
Speaker 7: explain what you meant.
Speaker 2: Make the word b I TC means something else. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was too much to whatever. But collectively everybody came
Speaker 2: out and rocked. But uh, yeah, that whole experience or
Speaker 2: something else. And like I said, I'm still dealing with
Speaker 2: anybody out there dealing with grief. Man, don't be afraid.
Speaker 2: I know you're a man, or you're a woman, you're
Speaker 2: a boss, and all this other shit. Man, let that
Speaker 2: shit out. Grieve. Learn how to grieve because it ain't
Speaker 2: gonna stop. Just learn how to do it, control it
Speaker 2: and keep it moving and make sure that they live
Speaker 2: through you.
Speaker 4: You said something powerful that I would like for you
Speaker 4: to talk about, just because that's something.
Speaker 2: I struggle with.
Speaker 4: How do you show up as a friend when somebody
Speaker 4: has somebody that they lose that's close to them, like
Speaker 4: a parent or significant other, Like what would you have
Speaker 4: wanted your friends to do in that moment.
Speaker 2: So if I'm now different and we ain't buying bottles
Speaker 2: and kicking it, and I ain't in the club, and
Speaker 2: I'm now I'm in the club with you, but but
Speaker 2: I'm daydreaming and I'm zoned out and I ain't helping
Speaker 2: you pull all the women in the club and all
Speaker 2: that shit or whatever. If I'm now I'm boring to you,
Speaker 2: I'm not what you was. If you're a friend, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be like, man, let's get out this club, Let's
Speaker 2: go ahead, let's go chill, let's go get you together,
Speaker 2: Let's go chill. If you're any way different. Even if
Speaker 2: I'm snappy, even if I'm not understanding, if I don't
Speaker 2: hear you correctly at any of that, understand that I
Speaker 2: wasn't normally like this. So therefore you have to know
Speaker 2: that there's some kind of issue going on with me, right,
Speaker 2: So therefore you have to channel that and understand that
Speaker 2: and get to know who I am now or who
Speaker 2: I'm about to be, because now I'm embarking on a
Speaker 2: new normal. And that's what everybody has to do. It
Speaker 2: out the embark on a new normal. Truthfid absolutely, And
Speaker 2: once a true friend understand that, yo, he's he's embarking
Speaker 2: on the new normal. And I have to be here
Speaker 2: to learn that new normal in order to be there,
Speaker 2: to be there for this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So once a person the stands that, and they'll be there,
Speaker 2: they won't leave you, and they gonna be there and
Speaker 2: they gonna and they're gonna help you out and they
Speaker 2: not gonna leave because all of a sudden you don't
Speaker 2: understand them and all of that, and it's like it's
Speaker 2: it's it's so whack or whatever. And I lost not
Speaker 2: only I and not only I lose my mother I
Speaker 2: lost like other family members and friends, and so it
Speaker 2: was very and I'm still in that kind of lonely
Speaker 2: spot right now, you know, but it's a lot better
Speaker 2: because I'm working and I got all these other projects
Speaker 2: coming out and about the popping bubble and all that,
Speaker 2: and so it's taking up my mind framing, you know,
Speaker 2: me working on a whole new hour, the tour with
Speaker 2: and all of that. So you know, I'm not feeling
Speaker 2: as left out and lonely no more, because you know,
Speaker 2: I got a lot going on. But as a friend,
Speaker 2: that's what a friend does. A friend understands that you changed,
Speaker 2: and they gonna change with you, and they're gonna be
Speaker 2: there for you, and they gonna find out how are
Speaker 2: you now, find out what makes you happy? Now? What
Speaker 2: makes you sad? Now, you know, and they're gonna be
Speaker 2: that for you, you know what I mean. But falling
Speaker 2: back and it's a selfish move, a lot of people
Speaker 2: go because they go, oh, you're not making me feel
Speaker 2: comfortable around you or and now it's about them, yeah
Speaker 2: and not you, you know what I mean. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a trip that situation. And I'm
Speaker 2: still learning, you know what I mean and uh and
Speaker 2: the friends that I do have. Man, we've been rocking
Speaker 2: and you know, we having a ball and we're gonna
Speaker 2: keep it moving. We appreciate you, brother, and we love
Speaker 2: you brother. I love y'all man, and I thank y'all
Speaker 2: man for this platform. I hate that it got serious.
Speaker 4: Like always give the best conversations, funny and it's serious.
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I appreciate y'all man,
Speaker 2: and y'all keep doing. Y'all doing y'all very I just
Speaker 2: want to say, y'all, y'all very powerful, more powerful than
Speaker 2: what y'all even probably thinking though, and I want you
Speaker 2: all to understand that and keep doing good with the positions.
Speaker 1: Average Joe promised June twenty fifth on B E T Plus,
Speaker 1: and thank.
Speaker 2: You brother for joining us. Thank you so much man.
Speaker 2: Y'all check it out. Dion Cole, It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Good morning,