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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. Do you have children? Because

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Speaker 1: I do, And at night when I check on them

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Speaker 1: imagine going into your child's room and seeing your child gone.

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Speaker 1: That is a suffering that a couple is enduring right now,

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Speaker 1: and we need your help now more than ever. This

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Speaker 1: young girl is autistic, she is bipolar. She has probably

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Speaker 1: is in danger. Where is Keyley? I mean, I see Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Serious XM one eleven. First

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Speaker 1: of all, take a listen to this. Without her phone

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Speaker 1: on her, it's making it more difficult to track her down.

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Speaker 1: Neverthing it's going to happen to you. I try to,

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Speaker 1: you know, run this and enforce this, and reinforce this

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Speaker 1: in her mind that she she cannot trust whoever she sees.

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Speaker 1: It's a message for parents out there, keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on your children's use of social media so that they

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Speaker 1: don't become the next target. They prey upon these these kids,

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Speaker 1: and it's sickening. The Carol County Sheriff's Office says they

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Speaker 1: are reviewing Jones's social media ords and followed up with

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Speaker 1: the last persons she had contact with. They are still

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Speaker 1: actively searching for Jones and hasn't ruled out possibilities on

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Speaker 1: what may have happened leading up to her disappearance. As

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Speaker 1: you just heard, the family is so desperate for your help.

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Speaker 1: If you know anything, contact the Carroll County Sheriff's Office

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Speaker 1: as soon as possible. You were just hearing from our

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Speaker 1: friends at CBS, But now take a listen to Crystal

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Speaker 1: Booie at CBS forty six. My daughter is Kaylee Jones.

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Speaker 1: She's sixteen years old. Take a good look at Kaylee Jones.

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Speaker 1: So I was here at work and my wife called

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Speaker 1: me about seven fifteen and she said Kayley was gone.

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Speaker 1: Her parents haven't seen her for about a week. And

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Speaker 1: it's hard for Daniel and Brenda Jones to go to

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Speaker 1: we desperately want her back. She has a huge part

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Speaker 1: of us, and Keely is autistic, and because of that,

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Speaker 1: her parents are afraid their daughter was more vulnerable to

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Speaker 1: any online predators. My wife found that she was talking

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Speaker 1: to us like four or five different guys via Snapchat.

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Speaker 1: He took her phone away on Monday, and by Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 1: Jones was gone. Can you even imagine number one? Your

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Speaker 1: teen girl? A young teen girl talking to people she

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Speaker 1: And my son will say, well, so do you go

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Speaker 1: to school with him? No? Well, how do you know

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Speaker 1: this isn't some sixty five year old guy out in

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now and all Star panel to make

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Speaker 1: I want to go to first. Daniel and Brenda Jones.

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Speaker 1: These are Kelly's parents. I want to go first to you, Brenda,

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Speaker 1: So you walk to her bedroom, look in there, and

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Speaker 1: psychologists specializing and where law and psychology intersect and criminal behavior.

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Speaker 1: That feeling I don't understand what it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to Tanya Jordan, chief parent Officer at Bark, which I love.

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Speaker 1: your ups had they seen her. We have to change

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00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: law enforcement, we have to change think the runaway, which

426
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: I despise that term to somebody who's missing. I agree, Lisa,

427
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: Daddy somehow puts the blame on the child. And this

428
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: is not just a teen girl. This is an autistic

429
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: teen girl who has been through a lot in her

430
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: life and has been taken in by loving parents. As

431
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, take a less an hour cut seven.

432
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: She was three and a half almost four. Um, but

433
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: my wife, she's a development therapist and actually she was

434
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: a client to my wife from the time she was

435
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: eighteen months old. Then you know, Brendan got them. Like

436
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: I said, she did it there in the foster home

437
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: itself and for about eight almost Ernie she had not

438
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: even three when she found out that that Brenda found

439
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: out that they were going to terminate right because parents

440
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: couldn't get their act together forever. I dropped a little

441
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: girl and in our lap, and we honestly didn't know

442
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: she had a brother. And when we found out, we said, well,

443
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: we're just gonna take both of them. Two parents that

444
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: have sacrificed so much. They take in a three year

445
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: old child whose parents crapped out on her with her disabilities.

446
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: They find out she has a brother, they take him

447
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: to and they raise both of these children. And now

448
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: this has befallen them. Time stories with Nancy Grace to

449
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, this is Kelley's dad, and you can find

450
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: them on Facebook. Where is Kaylee Jones? Daniel, why did

451
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: you guys take her phone away? Well, I mean that's

452
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: the whole thing is you try to you try to

453
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: give you I mean even with Kaylee. I mean she's sixteen,

454
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: but you know, we we monitor and we try to

455
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: monitor and um put you know, controls on. Anyway, Um,

456
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: we took the phone away. Uh Brenda was talking to her.

457
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: She was here in the afternoon on Monday, and uh

458
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: Katy was in the in the dining room at the

459
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: table doing her um. Uh she was trying to get

460
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: do the for the George of the Jacob's Law to

461
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: get her her actual driver's license because we went and

462
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: we moved from Florida, she had her permit. Well, then

463
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: she went and took her to the DMB here in Georgia.

464
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Will then even though it's already been a year, by

465
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 1: Florida's law, they have to ever permit anyway, Um, she

466
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: had to do this Jacob's Law thing. So it was

467
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: just a thirty hour course. So she's been since the

468
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: day she got back from there and knew she had

469
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: to do this. She was working very villant to you

470
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: try to do that. And anyway, she was acting a

471
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: little funnier or whatever. And m Brenda was talking to

472
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: her about something, asked her about something and about her

473
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: phone or something, and she's kind of acting a little funnier.

474
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: So she said, well, what are you doing? Who? Who

475
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: are your texting or whatever? And um, so she took

476
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: the phone and started looking through it and then find

477
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: all this different stuff that um parents don't want to see.

478
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you, and I understand. I'm

479
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: taking it. You know you you you honestly do not

480
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: know how to control yourself because it's so easy to

481
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: do things on these telephones. Let me ask you then,

482
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: Brenda Jones. Earlier, you were hearing Daniel describe the adoption

483
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: of Cayley and her brother, knowing full well about Killy's

484
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: disabilities as they were talking to our friends at Sleuth. Mom,

485
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: so I imagine that you handle her in a special

486
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: way because she's autistic. But Brenda Jones, when you go

487
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: online or you go on her phone and you see

488
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: very disturbing content or people she's speaking with, what are

489
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: they talking to her like she's a grown woman? Is

490
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: it somebody talking to her about sex? What is it?

491
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: I was a little worse showing different part. Somebody is

492
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: sexting her photos and vice versa. Okay, you know what,

493
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: Titania Jordan joining me, Chief Hearent Officer bart Control. Yeah,

494
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that on my daughter's phone

495
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 1: or my son's phone. I don't want to see that,

496
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: But if it's there, I want to know it's there

497
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: because at that age, no one should be sexting a

498
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: little girl naked photo and they should not be luring

499
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: her to do the same thing. I mean, this teen girl,

500
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: for Pete's sake, she's autistic. She doesn't understand that somebody's

501
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: taking advantage of her. But could you please tell the

502
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Jones it ain't the first time and it won't be

503
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: the last time, you know. It is so unfortunate. Every

504
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: day at BARK we are sending thousands of alerts around

505
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: all kinds of issues, including sexting, sex stortion, online predation.

506
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: They are not alone. Is happening to children all across

507
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: the country, and it's heartbreaking. We've got to continue to

508
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: raise awareness and do something and protect this generation. You know,

509
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: doctor Sherry Schwartz, what time unless it's another boy this age,

510
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: what kind of an adult, what predator would take advantage

511
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: of a teen girl who is autistic, has no idea

512
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: and he had to know from her return texts that

513
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: she's not like every other team girl. Well, and that's

514
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: exactly why a predator is looking for people with vulnerabilities

515
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: that they can easily take advantage of who isn't going

516
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: to resist, because it makes things a whole lot easier

517
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: for them. The predator doesn't care about the victim. The

518
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: victim is not human to them. It's all about their

519
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: own gratification. Alexis terrescheck. Do we have any idea whether

520
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: the costs have been pulling the ring and the red

521
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: light video? Do we have any idea about home security

522
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: video in the area, anything at all. They have not

523
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: shared any video at all that they would have of her,

524
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: which would probably be the first they may would do

525
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: because the video is so powerful. We see somebody. They

526
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: haven't shown anything like that. Now, what do you know

527
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: about it? Daniel and Brenda? Let me start with you,

528
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Have the police shared anything about what they're

529
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: doing to try to find her? Well, that's the problem

530
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: is where we live, as kind of a rural area,

531
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: our neighborhood. They found I think I think two ring

532
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: cameras in our little area. I mean, we actually were

533
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: talking several months ago about doing it as well, but

534
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: we haven't put one up yet. And now I'm kicking

535
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: myself for not doing it and not having security cameras

536
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: all around the house inside outside, you know, but they've

537
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: they've searched that stuff. They did, they did some other search.

538
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: They tried to you know, one of the guys through Snapchat,

539
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: I found the tag and they ran that and they

540
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: talked to one of other guys that she was talking

541
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: back and forth with more and they you know, they

542
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: made contact with him. They got all the tag numbers

543
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: for him and his family, you know, immediate family and

544
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of exist or you know, little distant

545
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: family or whatever, aunt's uncles or whatever. And they ran

546
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: through them through all the speck or whatever it's called

547
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: or fleck or something. And they didn't find any of

548
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: those vehicles in our area. So they ruled that one

549
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: guy out. But so they were doing that stuff, and

550
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: they searched homes in your neighborhood that I don't know.

551
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they went around, but I mean

552
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: this is more like my daught because we called and

553
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, my daughter's missing. She ran away. That was

554
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: a thing, you know for me. You know, there's so

555
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: many things, but runaway doesn't like label anything. It's just

556
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: like my daughter ran away. I don't know where she's at.

557
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: This is reminded me of the case of Danielle van Damn,

558
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: a beautiful little girl that goes missing in the night

559
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: from her home in California. Massive search was actually a

560
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: guy Westerville that lived not too far away from her

561
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: that had taken her in the night. So you can't

562
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: rule out even though it seems like it's somebody she's

563
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: met a line, you can't rule out that it's someone

564
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: closer at hand. Or could you tell me about this,

565
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: Brenda Jones, When the one other time that she got

566
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: angry when you took her phone for good reason, she

567
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: got in the car with a little old lady and

568
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: the police found her. I mean, how do we know

569
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: she didn't just get in the car with somebody that

570
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: she wasn't talking to online. I mean that could be

571
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: true too, it could be. What is your gut feeling, Brenda,

572
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: My gut feeling is she was she was taken through

573
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: probably those chat rooms. Um, she was mad, and so

574
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna go with whoever, um, whoever or whatever. Um,

575
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: So she just got in the car was whoever. Um.

576
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: That's my feeling and my feeling that she's in danger.

577
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: The danger is real. I have got a stack of

578
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: paper so thick on my desk of similar transactions of

579
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: young girls, young people, usually girls being lured online. They

580
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: haven't no idea who they're talking to. Turns out to

581
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: be somebody completely different. You heard our friend earlier, Alicia Kevitch.

582
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: Take a listen hour cut sixteen our friends at WSOC.

583
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: New Warrens reveal the level of abuse Charlatein endured while

584
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: being held captive in Georgia for more than a year.

585
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: The documents say that Michael Weislovsky can find Haley Burns

586
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: in an upstairs bedroom of his Duluth home, telling her

587
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: that she would be arrested if she left. Wislovsky reportedly

588
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: controlled every aspect of his seventeen rold captive's life, keeping

589
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: a food journal detailing how many calories she'd eaten each day,

590
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: and withholding food from Haley if he thought she'd eaten

591
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: too many calories the day before. Doctors at the Atlanta

592
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: hospital who examined Haley after she was rescued determined she

593
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: was suffering from malnutrition. According to Warrens, her parents told

594
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds Haleyburns disappeared

595
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: from her Valentine home in May of twenty sixteen. This

596
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: past weekend, the FBI responded to a tick and tracked

597
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: her to a home in Georgia. Michael Wislovski is in

598
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: jail under no bond on a number of state charges

599
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: and our cut eighteen our friends at WISN Tommy Lee

600
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: jenkins first conviction on child sex charges was in twenty eleven.

601
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Now he's charged in a new investigation. Documents show Jenkins

602
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: used Facebook to communicate with someone he thought was fourteen.

603
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: It was actually an undercovered deputy who asked do you

604
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: care I'm fourteen and drink Jenkins reply. According to the records,

605
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: no prosecutors claimed Jenkins initiated the topic of sex and

606
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: wanted the undercover to send a picture with no shirt,

607
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: no pens, asking when you get here, would you like

608
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: to have sex with me? The undercover responded yes. And

609
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: the whole time, this pervert knows he's talking to a

610
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: little girl, thinks he's talking to a fourteen year old girl.

611
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: To doctor Sherry Schwartz, how would the autism affect Kelly's reasoning, Well,

612
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's various shades of autism. But in general,

613
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: what we know is that children with autism tend to

614
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: have trouble making forming close relationships in person, they misread

615
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: social cues, but they are significantly more vulnerable to forming

616
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: relationships with people online. We're not entirely sure why. Part

617
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: of that is being a teenager. The other part of

618
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: it is having a hard time making sense of danger

619
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: and when something might be a danger, and so that

620
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: would render her much more vulnerable. Daniel Jones, what is

621
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: your message to the person that took your daughter? Well, um,

622
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: we're not going to stop looking. You know, we want

623
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: her home. She needs to come home. I don't even

624
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: know how to begin to get there, but we're we're

625
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: going to find it. It's not a joke. These people

626
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: are are sick their own heads. I mean they need

627
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: mental health as well. But you know they knew what

628
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: they were doing, Kaylee, didn't you know? No, she she

629
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: got in the car, or she she got lured away

630
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: by somebody, whether online or whatever. She just somebody took

631
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: advantage of her in some way, shape or form, online, offline.

632
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: And I mean she's gone, that's the that's the point.

633
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: She's she's she's gone, disappeared. Spanish. If you have information

634
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: on the whereabouts of this young autistic girl, please dial

635
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 1: seven seven zero eight three zero five nine one six

636
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,959
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