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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Scams and Katie.

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Speaker 3: G k Gee. The strike has is over.

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Speaker 2: The strike is over, and the deal has been ratified.

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Speaker 2: We are free to go and be thesbians again.

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Speaker 4: Wesian are available for employment, and we are available to

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Speaker 4: talk about more and more scam Toolbox but also which

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Speaker 4: we already know because we're on episode three, but it

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Speaker 4: can never be discussed enough because we're fucking stoked.

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Speaker 3: Thank god we have Unpacking the Toolbox because now I

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Speaker 3: don't see you on the strike lines, I know, and

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Speaker 3: this is where I see your sexy face. Yes, hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: what's up baby? Second season of Unpacking the Toolbox, which like,

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Speaker 3: thank god, what are you wearing today?

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Speaker 2: Honey, I'm wearing a T shirt with an angry black cat.

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Speaker 2: See him? He's cool? Huh. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: words is. Oh, that's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the sag actors did not rebel because we ratified

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Speaker 3: the contract.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Also, I'm still looking at your adorable faith with the

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Speaker 3: nose ring that you have, and I still really want

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Speaker 3: to get it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, dude, let me know. I'll take you me and

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Speaker 2: Katie live eight minutes away from each other, and I

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Speaker 2: found this amazing tattoo slash piercing place and he's like

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Speaker 2: a master piercer. It didn't hurt at all. I'm the

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Speaker 2: biggest chicken.

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Speaker 5: Shit.

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Speaker 2: I have a ton of tattoos and they've all hurt.

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Speaker 2: But the septum piercing did not hurt at all. So

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Speaker 2: if you're ever down to get it and look and

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Speaker 2: then you can make it. We forget a job which

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Speaker 2: you and it's gone your booge stupid. Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 2: do it right now, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: That in my life. I've never called it that in

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Speaker 3: my life. I'm disgusted with myself.

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Speaker 2: Look and now it's gone.

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Speaker 3: See and you can feel weird?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, you don't even feel it.

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Speaker 3: What'd you eat today? What'd you eat today today?

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Speaker 2: For breakfast? I had a cinnamon raisin bagel with cream

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Speaker 2: cheese because my stomach has been a little bit, a

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Speaker 2: little bit upset these last few days, so I didn't

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Speaker 2: want to do my normal celery and parsley and lime

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Speaker 2: juice every morning.

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Speaker 3: I just need to lay down a layer of carbs.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: For breakfast, I had just a power bar, which is

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Speaker 3: pretty lame. I've been in a rush children at the

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Speaker 3: time of this recording. It's the holidays and everything is insane,

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Speaker 3: but life stops for the guests that we have today.

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Speaker 2: Uh, one of my favorites, one of my favor guest

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Speaker 2: stars in episode three oh three, she shines her light

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Speaker 2: for us, and she's just amazing.

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Speaker 3: She's just a tried and true journey woman of an actress,

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Speaker 3: like she just has been on everything, comedies, dramas, film,

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Speaker 3: TV shows, you name it, maybe some horror movies.

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Speaker 2: What what was that again?

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Speaker 3: She's amazing and she so lovingly has agreed to come

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Speaker 3: on and be our guest today for episode three or three.

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Speaker 3: It is the one, It is the only. Yes, Steve, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: First of all, it's amazing to see you again. I

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Speaker 3: am such a fan.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think either one of us worked

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Speaker 2: with you actually in person in the episode except for

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Speaker 2: Caring right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. It was so weird that I didn't get to

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Speaker 5: connect with you guys, because you you know, when you're

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Speaker 3: When you're like the guest star of the episode and

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Speaker 3: the entire story revolves around you. A lot of times

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Speaker 3: you have more heavy lifting than the lead actors do,

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Speaker 3: Like you're the entire episode. You work every day and

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Speaker 3: have to go through all these emotional huge swings.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, kiddie. And also you know, because we've

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Speaker 5: done it, Like when it's your family, it's your show,

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Speaker 5: it's your show, You're like, yeah, it's the weird an.

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Speaker 5: You had to be invited to the wedding.

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Speaker 2: You always feel like you have to prove something right

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Speaker 2: as the guests start, You're like, I gotta be the

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Speaker 5: Intruding somehow. I'm like always feel like, oh I'm talking

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Speaker 2: Oh me too. We all do that shit. But you know, punning,

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Speaker 2: don you killed it in this episode?

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Speaker 3: Killed it the bomb strap to you. I want to

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Speaker 3: hear about Wait was there an audition? We have so

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Speaker 3: just like you, how is your scandal paced? Do you

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Speaker 3: remember having to do talk really quick on this?

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Speaker 5: Who's terrifying? So in the last part of that episode,

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Speaker 2: No, oh my god. No, you know how many monologues

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Speaker 2: and pieces that we had that they cut out. It's

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Speaker 3: You don't even know how many times Tom Veriko would

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Speaker 3: come to work and say, just delivered the episode and

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Speaker 3: it's eighteen minutes over.

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Speaker 5: Like no, no, yes, yes, because you guys could not

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Speaker 5: have spoken any faster your whole rhythm. So you must

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Speaker 5: have been so exhausted at the end of this run

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Speaker 5: because you're on a treadmill at highest speed all the time.

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Speaker 5: And all the emotional journeys you guys took, none of

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Speaker 5: them are casual. None of them were like this episode

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Speaker 5: what you guys were going through.

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Speaker 2: You know what it was, Cynthia. The worst part after

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Speaker 2: finishing with this series, when the series ended is we

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Speaker 2: me and Katie spoke at least I know because Katie's

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Speaker 2: talked about it too. We just talked so fast that

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Speaker 2: our next auditions and our next projects that the direct

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Speaker 2: would be like, you need to slow down, and we're like,

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I still have that problem I do too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, funny you got tightened up internally like you're nervous,

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Speaker 5: is yes? No, I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for all of you listeners, just to catch you up. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I feel like a good aim, of course.

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Speaker 3: But we are going to read real quick that we're

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Speaker 3: talking about episode three oh three, which was entitled Wow,

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Speaker 3: I think cultivated.

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Speaker 2: It was entitled to shit. It was titled and entitled Yes'

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Speaker 2: character was definitely a title.

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Speaker 3: Missus Smith Goes to Washington, which aired on October seventeenth

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Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen. It was written by.

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Speaker 2: Maddy Bird and directed by Janeaul's Wark, who is one

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Speaker 2: of our one of our directors who who directed a

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Speaker 3: Yes, he directed a bunch of episodes, and he's directed

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Speaker 3: a bunch of Gray's Anatomis too, and I believe Private Practice.

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Speaker 3: He's a Shondaland All star and a real character, a real.

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Speaker 2: Character, and he directed Jaws two f y.

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Speaker 3: Put that in your pipe and smoke it. The episode

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Speaker 3: is guest starring the one and Only Cynthia Stephenson as

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Speaker 3: Mary ness Bit who we have? It was also starring

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Speaker 3: Mark Moses as Congressman Jim Struthers and Ernie Hudson Yes Wow,

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Speaker 3: as FBI Commander Randolph Bowles. Cynthia, do you want to

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Speaker 3: take a Do you have this synopsis up in front

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Speaker 3: of you? If you don't, I wish that's okay. I'm

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Speaker 3: like you, grandmother, You're most Look, most people have never

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Speaker 2: We've been doing this for so long, and I still

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Speaker 2: will text Katie and be like Katie, can you like

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Speaker 2: send me that link? I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 3: Also, we had like Deborah Mooney on.

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Speaker 2: Who played Judge Brenda Thornton on the show, and she

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Speaker 2: her camera was like just like from her eyes and

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Speaker 3: And she was doing the episode.

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Speaker 2: But she was amazing. She was great, all right? So

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Rock it out, be a little dirty, but not too dirty.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome, Hulu.

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Speaker 2: As most of the OPA team takes on a new client,

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Speaker 2: a mother seeking justice for her murdered son, Huck has

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Speaker 3: The grieving mother plans to blow up part of the

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Speaker 3: White House, and Eli Pope knew Huck was coming. Oh shit,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we did not getting highed. We're not

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Speaker 3: getting hired. The grieving mother plans to blow up part

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Speaker 3: You know what, we wouldn't have booked the job. You

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Speaker 3: So, Cynthia, can you take us into had you seen

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Speaker 3: scandal before? Did you audition for the part where you

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Speaker 5: So this was so funny to me. Every summer we

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Speaker 5: go to this cabin way up in northern California in

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Speaker 5: a little red cabin with yellow shutters. It's like walking

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Speaker 5: So it does jealous, I know, it's so heaven. So

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, what is that?

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Speaker 5: So I answered it and it's my manager, God love him,

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Speaker 5: sweetest mallin earth, Kelly Garner, the greatest guy. And he goes, Cynthia,

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Speaker 5: I'm sending you something. And I said, I'm at the river.

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Speaker 5: He goes, I'm sending you something and you have to

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Speaker 5: get in your car and I have to drive four

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Speaker 5: car and drive to the it's called the dry yards.

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Speaker 5: I sent you. And I go, what is it? He goes,

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Speaker 5: I four miles to the dryards. I opened it the

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Speaker 5: Goosebumps while I'm telling you this. So I start reading it,

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Speaker 3: Now, you've been a lead of so many shows. What's

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Speaker 2: Really quickly too. I love horror movies and I had

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Speaker 2: And Cynthia plays Chip's mom who provides him with a

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Speaker 3: You didn't, Yes, for those of you listening and that

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Speaker 5: And hey, what about IMDb, you guys, I gotta say

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it won't change it. And it says I'm sixty.

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Speaker 2: It says I'm from fucking Jersey. No, no offense from Jersey.

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Speaker 5: You can't, guys. So you say this, look what your

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Speaker 3: Best friend, right, Yes, yes, that's so true.

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Speaker 5: One of the greatest of all time. And I will

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Speaker 5: When did I feel like you were outside of it?

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Speaker 5: You just you can't or you can't do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the way I felt watching this episode

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Speaker 5: In real life, I have one son, so of course

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Speaker 5: Do you guys do this? So when I was reading

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Speaker 5: But it's like my whole was done. Yeah, it was heartbreading.

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you something selfishly and then we'll talk

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Speaker 3: a little bit more about the episode. But because we

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Speaker 3: like not socialized? You like listen to music and like

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Speaker 5: I do the same thing for all the time. And

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Speaker 5: Because think of us walking into an audition room, which

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Speaker 5: please don't talk to me. Please call Meveut my character name.

437
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 5: Oh god, but you're just you keep that kind of

438
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 5: energetically really close to your heart and don't get so

439
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 5: far away they actually think. I remember a couple of

440
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 5: times saying to Mark, who I was just pouring on

441
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 5: that venom too. I said, I'm so sorry, I'm really

442
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 5: hateful to you. I just hate you. My character hates

443
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 5: you so much, and he goes, oh, it's okay, it's okay.

444
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: Mark moses gentlemen that plays the Congress, Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes,

445
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 2: you know yeah. I feel like Katie is the complete

446
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: opposite Katie. We've talked about this before. We'll be cracking up,

447
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: talking a mile a minute, telling a story about what

448
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: happened the night before. And as they're saying Rolling, she's

449
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: still talking, and the directors already knew once scandal. They

450
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: were like, just keep calling Rolling, slate, rolling, and when

451
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: she hears action, she snaps right into it.

452
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Speaker 5: I can totally see you doing that. I love that.

453
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 5: I love that.

454
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, she can do that, and then she she still

455
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: does a kick ass job.

456
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 3: I mean I probably do better if I like took

457
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: my ship more. Seriously, I just love everybody so much.

458
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 3: Being on set is so fun with being all the people.

459
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 5: See Katie, that's your magic.

460
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: And I want to eat my snacks and I want

461
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Speaker 3: to you know, like.

462
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 5: And then you want to get into the same Yeah,

463
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 5: that's that's a huge skill. So don't ever say, oh,

464
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 5: you're in it.

465
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Speaker 3: We will be back with more after the break. This

466
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Speaker 3: episode there we always have like some uh some Kerry

467
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: Washington School of acting moments or word for words like

468
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 3: monologues that knocked your socks off or made us go

469
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: holy shit Sean Rimes and these writers are unfreaking believable.

470
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: And this episode, that Melly speech at the end with

471
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: the accent, I mean, I I cannot. Also, I think

472
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: this is the second or third time she's called Olivia

473
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: popehor but I never get I never am born of it.

474
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 5: I love.

475
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 3: So oh my god, it's hilarious, like, oh my god,

476
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: Matt Burne wrote this episode. But I just can't, like,

477
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: we never heard I think, you know, if Olivia Pope died.

478
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: It would be so bad, because it would be she says, spectacular.

479
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: But you can't compete with religious fervor. So no, I'm

480
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 3: not hoping that she would be blown up today. Tell

481
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: us your other acting favorite moments of the app.

482
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Speaker 5: For me, I think it was when Melly looked right

483
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 5: at me and said, you shut up.

484
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: It was so great, Yes, you shut up. Oh my god,

485
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: that was so good.

486
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: Melly might be the winner of this app. It's a

487
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: tie for me between Melly and between Mary nest Bit.

488
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 5: Well, no, but you had had some She walks into

489
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 5: the office and you're just sitting there. You were so

490
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 5: scary in.

491
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: That episode, you guys. This was the This was around

492
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: the time. Do you guys remember the grumpy Cat meme

493
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: that was going around. This is the episode that people

494
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: started posting that meme with my face in this scene.

495
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: In that scene, I am dead.

496
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: With grumpy Cat.

497
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 5: But your whole journey in that episode is so heartbreaking.

498
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 5: When he walks out of the trailer and you just

499
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 5: have the gun right in his head. Oh my god,

500
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 5: there's so much.

501
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 2: This is also the episode where Sion knows Wark our

502
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: director first came up to me after I we did

503
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: the first take of that scene where carry walks into

504
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: the office and he came up to me and he said, yes,

505
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: you're too maniacal, Yes you're too it's too much. And

506
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my, okay, okay, because we have

507
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: to keep going.

508
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: So then when you were when she cradles you and

509
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 5: you're crying, yeah, and then it just flashed back to

510
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 5: all the time you were in the box.

511
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: Was such a wounded wound.

512
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: I loved doing this episode for me. The king of

513
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 2: this episode, of course Cynthia, I mean with her performance, yes,

514
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: But secondly, is freaking baby Teddy in that opening scene

515
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: where I have never seen a baby on screen give

516
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: less than any fucks before in my life. He was slept.

517
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: He was leaning on one one hand with a look

518
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: like I don't know what the hell I'm doing. He

519
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: looked like he was sixty five.

520
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: Years old, I'll give And they kept putting.

521
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: Like food on his face. You could tell because in

522
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: different takes there'd be more food or less, and he

523
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: just had this look like, get me the fuck out

524
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: of continuity.

525
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: Must have had a real heyday.

526
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: He wasn't like the guying and like he was just

527
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: like he was like staring.

528
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 5: With disdain at both of them, like, really, this is parents.

529
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: I felt bad for baby Teddy because Baby Teddy was

530
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: a set of twin girls I'm pretty sure, and they

531
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: just had kept having Baby Teddy girls in and cutting

532
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 3: her hair short like a boy.

533
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he was really young, it was too. It

534
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: was twin girls, and then when he was older. I

535
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: think it was too at some point.

536
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: But you know, G and I love food and our

537
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: favorite acting on cameras when anyone eats, And so of

538
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: course maybe baby Teddy is the winner since he is

539
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: crushing baby food. Not the best acting.

540
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: He was amazing at the acting, but he was terrible

541
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 2: at the eating because he wasn't his mouth was shut. Clothes,

542
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: you just have food smeared on um.

543
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 3: He must have eaten in like other takes, Like he

544
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 3: must have liked, you know what I mean, Like he

545
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: must have like I don't know what went down, but

546
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: it didn't really work, and I thought it was very distracting.

547
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: But I do think that he might be and winner.

548
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: I think he's a king actor in this episode for sure,

549
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: and Cynthia is the queen that works. Another moment is

550
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: when Carrie is on the phone at the end of

551
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: the episode when you guys you still have the bomb

552
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: and she's talking to fits and she turns away from you, Cynthia,

553
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: and you could see it all on her face, and

554
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: she says, don't make me do this, and she and

555
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: then she turns back to you and just oh my god.

556
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: It was just so full of emotion and so heartbreaking.

557
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: I decided that she was a princess, and I crazy,

558
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 5: she's like a princess. She's like a princess, and she's

559
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 5: going to save me. Yeah, my character fell in love

560
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: with her and she was my safe.

561
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: You could feel that, Yeah, I could feel that watching it.

562
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also have to add to the ah, we

563
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: have body count to add in this. We have some

564
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: death to add to the ever loving scandal body count,

565
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: which is sadly nessa Congressman, Jim Struthers.

566
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: And then Peter Poster, the.

567
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: White House intruder, and then yeah, hey.

568
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: Episode three, three deaths. There's some good syncretis.

569
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, the Trinity.

570
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 5: You have to tell this story to remember so at

571
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 5: the end that what you just referenced caver where Tony

572
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: Goldwin has a giant two page monologue talking to and

573
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: her phone and I remember saying, how are they going

574
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 5: to do that? Did they recorded or is it God forbid?

575
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 5: The script supervisor, which thank so I remember on the

576
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: night because it was really late when we shot that.

577
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: I look over, I go what because he wasn't on

578
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: the call sheet, Tony wasn't on the cauchet, and there

579
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: he is sitting on the floor and he came he said, oh, yeah,

580
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 5: I was having dinner with my wife, but I wanted

581
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: to come in for Carrie. And that's when I said, Okay,

582
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: this show.

583
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: Is yes forever. Yeah.

584
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 3: He shot that scene at one o'clock in the morning,

585
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: So line huge monologue into a phone call scene, which

586
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: is how you know they took those phone calls very soon.

587
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: We would do that all the time, Katie right. They

588
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: would give us a heads up and be like, hey,

589
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: you have a phone call with Carrie or with Katie

590
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: or whoever, and we would make ourselves available to actually

591
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: get on the phone while they were shooting the scene

592
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: and do the scene with them, or we would come

593
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: to set. There were a couple of times I came

594
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: to set, or if we were already on set, of

595
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: course we would do it and just actors listening.

596
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: That's really unusual. A lot of the time, that's when

597
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 5: there's just oh yeah, support and that's the way it

598
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 5: should be, right, but it isn't.

599
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: A lot of the time, and sometimes it is Oh yeah,

600
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: that's definitely how you do your best act that's a

601
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: really good point to bring up, and that I love them.

602
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: They yeah, that's really really nice.

603
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: I did a move a big movie once and I

604
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: did most of my scenes with the actors stand in.

605
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: We would do all his stuff and then not the

606
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: whole movie. But like like I remember like two or

607
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: three like big scenes, and I ended up with doing

608
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: all my coverage with his stand in, and I was like,

609
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: this is so weird, this is shitty. But yeah, it's

610
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: not the norm to be there for your actor when

611
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: you're not in the actual scening or just on the

612
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: phone or whatever.

613
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 5: To you for doing that, because it's really hard. It's

614
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 5: really hard cameras in your face. Yes, So even if

615
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 5: you're your partner's there for you, which the perfect world

616
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: they are, but when they're not, that's really tough on

617
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: them and great on you that you could do it.

618
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

619
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: Real.

620
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: Although I feel like I've had some of my best

621
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 2: acting moments acting with like a tennis ball. There were

622
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: times where I had to act with just the actor

623
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: couldn't physically be there or they were like off to

624
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: the side, and I was like, this is the best

625
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: work on this tennis ball.

626
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 5: Even more.

627
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes you can look in the eyes of

628
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: the other acting you could see them being like, oh God,

629
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: what am I going to have for lung?

630
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: And one of the biggest hardest monologues I ever had

631
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 3: with an actress who will remain unnamed, and she may

632
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: or may not be a part of sand Land, but

633
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: we're going to leave it at that, and so all

634
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: you listeners can guess, but I'm not going to say

635
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: who it is. I do this like massive monologue and

636
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: like there wasn't nobody home, like nobody was listening, nothing

637
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: behind the eyes, nothing behind the eyes. And I was like,

638
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: this person is so bored and I am sobbing I

639
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: am having to go there and she does. I'll never

640
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: forget it, Like I'll never forget it. I'm like, oh

641
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 3: my god, this person like I'm either terrible or like

642
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: they don't care or I mean they're sick. I don't know,

643
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: but I Cynthia, do you have any like horror stories

644
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: in your long career.

645
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 5: Again, I won't name I won't name them. I was doing.

646
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: I was doing a guest part that I was like, okay,

647
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 5: I wasn't super excited and literally like a cartoon. Her

648
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: off camera for me was this, no.

649
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: Freaking nails, put the.

650
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: Nail file in her pocket and then pulled her phone out. No, like.

651
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: That person should be fineired.

652
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

653
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 5: My thing about where is that? It's not our job

654
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: as the guest. It certainly isn't. I don't want to

655
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Speaker 5: stand there and make a big scene on someone else's show.

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Speaker 5: But the producer needs to step It needs to happen

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Speaker 5: because young people just sometimes don't know. You think, where

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Speaker 5: are you?

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Speaker 2: Cynthia? Was Was it a show where it was an

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Speaker 2: established show? Was it like successful? And she was like the.

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Speaker 5: Least, she's a really good actress.

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Speaker 2: She was really really amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah what wow, I am wasting all my energy off camera,

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Speaker 3: really holding up. I should just be filing my fucking

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Speaker 3: nails and checking my phone so that when it turns

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Speaker 3: to me, I'm full of energy and rare into go

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Speaker 3: because I've given them nothing.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, you're doing it because it's a gift. It's

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Speaker 5: the gift that you want to give and you want

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Speaker 5: to give her. That's the drug. A huge piece the

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Speaker 5: joy of creating this family and creating this altered world,

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Speaker 5: which is so magical, amazing.

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Speaker 2: I am in to know who this person is. We

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Speaker 2: finished recording, we will all name name.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, we have also were you on Twitter

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Speaker 3: at this time? Or you are you on Twitter?

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Speaker 5: God? I am like, I'm like the character in Downton Abbey,

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Speaker 5: was it Maggie Smith who comes to goes, Oh, these lights,

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Speaker 5: this is never gonna last. The vapors.

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Speaker 3: Good for you.

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Speaker 5: I'm the most untechnological person on earth. And the thought

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Speaker 5: of to live tweeting. I never because talk about my

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Speaker 5: characters here. Mary nesmdn't tweet. I can't. It's too far

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Speaker 5: for me to go. I can't go out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: No, you're not wrong. We read some Scandaled tweets of

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Speaker 3: the time and they're kind of like a real nice

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Speaker 3: time capsule for us to see what people thought of

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Speaker 3: the episode. There's some wow, oh I forgot about this line.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Costly, who oh my gosh, worked on Scandal in

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Speaker 3: publicity at Kevin Costly on October eighteenth, tweeted now we've

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Speaker 3: got a bimbo on the loose. Happy graduation hashtag Melly

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Speaker 3: Grant greeting cards hashtag scandal at bellmy Young So people

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Speaker 3: were making all of these like leading cards that had

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Speaker 3: Mellie's official photo on it. So it was a happy

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Speaker 3: graduation photo, but it said, now we've got a bimbo

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Speaker 3: on the loose. I'm dead, okay.

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Speaker 2: At Scandal Feelings tweeted, I think we'll need further inspection

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Speaker 2: to tell how presidential his balls are hashtag oops, hashtag

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Speaker 2: that slip, hashtag scandal.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So women love that Tony goldwin Man, so women behave

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Speaker 3: like absolute imbeciles around him? Yes. At Joe Morton tweeted

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Speaker 3: work unfortunately or fortunately, Oh happy birthday, big Daddy Rowan.

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Speaker 3: What does a head honcho do for his birthday? I

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Speaker 3: guess maybe it was Joe. Was it Joe's birthday?

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Speaker 2: Joe Morton's. Maybe? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't try to kill tried to kill him.

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Speaker 2: I tried to kill him. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. The other thing is at. Brown Eyed Girl

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Speaker 3: twenty three tweeted the Disney Studio lot is again showing

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Speaker 3: some love to add scandal and at Once upon a Time.

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Speaker 3: So this was at the time, and there's a picture

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Speaker 3: of up on the ABC a lot of the poster

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Speaker 3: of Lana Parrilla, who's me and Giermo's friend played the

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Speaker 3: Wicked Witch. It's her face up behind an apple on

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Speaker 3: the What's upon a Time poster and then carry's I

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Speaker 3: mean gorgeous face, I mean her face on those posters.

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Speaker 3: Are you joking? It'd be like her lips, her eyeball,

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Speaker 3: her nine, her profile, her dead on center, and all

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Speaker 3: of it was perfection and you could never get Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn. Trish tweeted, I'm scared of Hawk hashti scandal. Awesome,

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Speaker 2: anybody calls me hawk? That's a fan of scandal?

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Speaker 3: Wait, what does it hawk? By the way, it's a

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Speaker 3: very cool name. It's a very cool name.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, someone tweeted at Anna. Labor eighty seven tweeted

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Speaker 3: watching hashtag scandal again, OMG, Melly and then quotations you

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Speaker 3: shut up. So that moment that you always talked about

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Speaker 3: really it really affected with the people even of the time.

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Speaker 5: I forgot to tell you guys this, So this is

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Speaker 5: another so crazy thing. So in the room where when

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Speaker 5: I'm holding the hostage and they're saying, what do we

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Speaker 5: do blah blah blah. Tony Goldland's characters and they're the

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Speaker 5: presidents having his briefing with like, how are we going

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Speaker 5: to get this crazy woman? Either my oldest friend Cheryl Bricker,

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Speaker 5: who I met when I first moved to LA in

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Speaker 5: nineteen eighty whatever. She plays one of the people and

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Speaker 5: one of her lines, oh no, wait, pumping some gas.

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Speaker 5: So we watched the episode together and we were laughing.

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Speaker 5: I was like, you were trying to kill me all

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Speaker 5: I was trying to do it?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Waite.

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Speaker 3: Are you guys good friends now or you had run

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Speaker 3: into or you were.

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Speaker 5: I don't get to see herzona because I don't live

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Speaker 5: in LA anymore, but she's one of my oldest friends.

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Speaker 5: She's amazing. She's a wonderful actress, and she had more

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Speaker 5: dialogue in Their Worse you know.

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Speaker 3: But did you know that she had booked the job

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Speaker 3: or were on set? How did that happen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? We were just talking and I said, oh, gosh,

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Speaker 5: you know, I just got this offer on Scandal and

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited. She was like, what really, I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be on that? Like that really?

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Speaker 2: Oh my God, where are you, Cynthia? Do you where

757
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Speaker 2: do you live in.

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Speaker 5: Tucson, Arizona?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, don't ask me.

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Speaker 5: Why spirits just let us here for some crazy reason.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, do you do you ever watch Long Island

762
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Speaker 2: Medium a lot about Spirits. She always refers to it

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Speaker 2: as spirit and I mean, so every time you say that,

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Speaker 2: it reminds me.

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Speaker 3: We love the Long Island Medium. We love it so much.

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Speaker 3: Wait tuson Arizona. Do you love it?

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Speaker 5: We've been here almost two years. I like it. I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure. The deserts in tenth California. We're in a desert,

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Speaker 5: but we don't feel that we're in the desert right right.

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Speaker 5: It's cool. There's it's actually really cool. There's a huge

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Speaker 5: music seeing here, really interesting quirky art, cool street fairs,

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Speaker 5: and it's got a cool life to it. I'm still

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Speaker 5: not ground.

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Speaker 3: Just figuring it out.

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Speaker 2: What do you do like for auditions? Of course you

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Speaker 2: do a remotely. You'll just audition remotely and then if

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Speaker 2: you book something, you'll get to LA and order wherever

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Speaker 2: it's shooting.

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Speaker 5: Ye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, has that been challenging at all?

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Speaker 5: Or? I mean my careers I remember being my twenties.

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Speaker 5: You guys and meeting much older women and they'd say, I, well,

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Speaker 5: it was here, because after fifty it's all over. And

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Speaker 5: I remember hearing that probably fifty times, and I'm saying, hello, negative,

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Speaker 5: what the heck? I'm a character, right, A character is

786
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 5: not gonna work forever. And I swear to god, I

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00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: was like, did that thought virus infiltrate my subconscious mind

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Speaker 5: could get out? But after fifty ish fifty five ish,

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Speaker 5: it definitely slows down. It definitely does. And I was

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Speaker 5: never the dynamo. I'm gonna get my own thing going.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm always so distracted, I'm so add and

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Speaker 5: I have a carousel going in my head. Very hard

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Speaker 5: to pin me down. I'm like, oh no, really, if

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00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: you look back, I could have done it really differently

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Speaker 5: and been much more aggressive. I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like you have a bunch of other

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Speaker 2: stuff that you love doing in your yeah time and

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Speaker 2: energy into Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm just going where you feel like it was like

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Speaker 5: that started naturally close down. I'm open to that, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Yeah, so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are an inspiration killed this episode and you

803
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Speaker 3: are so wonderful for taking the time out of your

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Speaker 3: life and bringing out so lucky, So lucky.

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Speaker 2: I was super shocked and excited when they said you

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Speaker 2: were going to be the guest, because I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to be a ready to get her.

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00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden they were like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this episode, Cynthia's gonna be there, and I was like what.

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Speaker 5: I was so happy. We were so happy, thrill and

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Speaker 5: you guys are so great on the show, and your

812
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 5: love for each other just just so infectious and it

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00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: makes people want to come and listen.

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Speaker 2: Good, oh good, Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I always say I did this podcast because it would

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Speaker 3: force Cameron hang out with me, like at least for

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Speaker 3: however many episodes we have a season.

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Speaker 5: I love it so much.

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Speaker 3: Like Cynthia Stevenson, you are the greatest. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: doing this. I'm glad you SiO. Thanks for listening. Here

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Speaker 3: we are at season three of Unpacking the Toolbox and

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Speaker 3: next up episode three oh four titled say Hello to

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Speaker 3: My Little Friend.

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Speaker 2: What from that's from Scarf?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Thank you god?

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Speaker 2: But check it out. So this episode is called Missus

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Speaker 2: Smith goes to Washington. Right. There was a nineteen thirty

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Speaker 2: nine Jimmy Stewart movie called Mister Smith Goes to Washington.

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Speaker 2: So I wonder if they did a play on the.

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Speaker 5: Idea of that movie. And then they did, right, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so good is it?

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Speaker 2: Really? I haven't seen it now. I think Claude Rains

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Speaker 2: is in it and and Stuart.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, amazing and weirdly, here's a fun fact.

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Speaker 5: My uncle I met and worked with Jimmy Stewart for

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Speaker 5: like a decade. He was who was a fundraiser for

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Speaker 5: some I think it was muscular dystrophe or something, and said,

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Speaker 5: Jimmy Stewart was the chose to be the face of that,

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Speaker 5: the celebrity face.

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Speaker 3: And he said, I'm the biggest Jimmy Stewart fan. I can't,

842
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: I can't. I love so much much.

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Speaker 5: Said he's kinder than we could ever imagine.

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Speaker 2: Really, Oh, I love that.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Cynthia Stevenson, we love you, rip to

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00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: your amazing character.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox.

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Speaker 2: If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate,

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Speaker 2: or leave us a review.

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Speaker 3: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, Lauren Homan,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Klang and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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Speaker 3: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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Speaker 2: Scandal is a production of ABC Signature, and you can

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Speaker 2: follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu.

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