Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Morale is high. Made it to a Friday.
Speaker 1: It's a meat Friday. At that French dip coming off
Speaker 1: the trigger a little bit later on. Everybody's here, but Seton,
Speaker 1: he's at home. I'll have his share today. Man, does
Speaker 1: it smell good this morning? Yeah? Seton, you can take
Speaker 1: my share of that mountain dew cake you guys are
Speaker 1: chopping up to. I don't need any of that we got.
Speaker 1: Paulie got a mountain dew cake for Todd. Todd loves
Speaker 1: mountain dew. And it's a it's a pie, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's I think it's World Kindness Day. Do something nice
Speaker 1: for somebody, but make sure somebody notices you're doing something
Speaker 1: nice for him. I thought it looked like maybe one
Speaker 1: of the holes at Augusta, and you were doing sort
Speaker 1: of sort of a model of what the whole, like
Speaker 1: fourteenth hole at Augusta would look like, and I realized, no,
Speaker 1: that's a mountain dew pie that was baked by Alan,
Speaker 1: who is our chef guy. Yeah, poem, the cake looks
Speaker 1: like the Seattle Seahawks color rush uniforms. Let's put it
Speaker 1: down Yeah, it's like there's a nice like pie crust
Speaker 1: with some type of toxics. If you set your phone
Speaker 1: on it, it it will recharge. Yeah, I've never seen that
Speaker 1: bright a green. It's like kryptonite like times ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just imagine if you want to put a coolant in
Speaker 1: your car. This would be the coolnt that you would
Speaker 1: put in your car. But we got it for Todd
Speaker 1: later on today if he would like to have it.
Speaker 1: Good God, we don't want to give it to you
Speaker 1: in the first hour. No telling what it'll do to
Speaker 1: your inside and kindness. I don't know how kind that
Speaker 1: is to the people in that clean the air studio
Speaker 1: after they have that. But yes, it's World Kindness Day.
Speaker 1: Do something nice for somebody, but make sure that everybody
Speaker 1: knows you're doing something nice. Don't do it in a
Speaker 1: subtle private way. According to Paulie, let people know you're
Speaker 1: doing something nice. Yeah. I guess the purpose of a
Speaker 1: world kind of day as you do an act, but
Speaker 1: you make a really grand gesture out of it, you
Speaker 1: tell people you did it, so it's maybe a self
Speaker 1: aggrandizement day as well. But I guess so it will
Speaker 1: catch on. So should we all do that? For each
Speaker 1: other today. No, I think just for to enough. I
Speaker 1: think I think we're one and done. Yes, mclovin. So
Speaker 1: it's world phony day, is what you're saying. But you're
Speaker 1: still doing something nice. You just want somebody to know
Speaker 1: that you're doing something nice. Yeah, which defeats, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: defeats the purpose. Like Pauli's did you do anything nice privately?
Speaker 1: I've done lots of nice things today, like what you're right,
Speaker 1: it's a o'clock I plan to do, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do. Charity that's done for public is almost
Speaker 1: worse than no charity. I find the hypocrisy of social
Speaker 1: media and charity. So when somebody donates a large sum
Speaker 1: of money and then they tell you they donated, then
Speaker 1: you have a problem with that. Not necessarily, but I
Speaker 1: do have a problem with the general mindset of our
Speaker 1: world where people are just like saying, oh, I'm such
Speaker 1: a great dude because I did this. Yes. Tis like
Speaker 1: when a celebrity or athlete it's a sick kid in
Speaker 1: the hospital or whatever. I don't know if you need
Speaker 1: to get the publicist, the agent and the manager involved
Speaker 1: so they can you know, let all the news stations
Speaker 1: and everyone make sure they got the cameras ready to
Speaker 1: take a shot. Well, but that's always that's a little
Speaker 1: bit that's unfair because I've done that before and I
Speaker 1: didn't know that there would be people in there taking
Speaker 1: pictures out. It's different, Dan, you told me to bring
Speaker 1: my camera every time I did, I did an a
Speaker 1: video recorder as well and alert the media. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you go in there and they want publicity
Speaker 1: for the hospital and the treatment and the care and
Speaker 1: the patients. So that's a that's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, it's not like we're alerting the media.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to a photographer and he's in Hollywood
Speaker 1: and he's one of those photographers that's following all these
Speaker 1: celebrities around, and I said, how do you know where
Speaker 1: they're going to be? And he goes, they tell us.
Speaker 1: I go, oh, they call ahead. He goes, well, they're
Speaker 1: publicists or you know somebody, some have relations relationships with
Speaker 1: the photographers. But I go, it's always amazing. It's like,
Speaker 1: how did you know they were gonna be there? And
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, they always give us a heads up.
Speaker 1: Usually we asked for you know, twenty to thirty minutes
Speaker 1: heads up, and then we'll be there and get him
Speaker 1: coming out of a restaurant or they have a new
Speaker 1: boyfriend or girlfriend they want to show off, and I went, oh,
Speaker 1: okay here, I thought your job was tough. Yeah, mclovin.
Speaker 1: I think I'm like kind of getting into what Todd's
Speaker 1: talking about, like the energy of like you know, like
Speaker 1: there's a famous viral video of a woman jumps out
Speaker 1: of her car and grabs an electric drill at a
Speaker 1: rebuilding site. It has it, takes an Instagram photo and
Speaker 1: then puts a drill down. You know, there is a
Speaker 1: lot of that energy out there where it's more for
Speaker 1: Instagram than it is for charity. Yes, point well, what
Speaker 1: if it's altruistic on both sides. Imagine someone like JJ
Speaker 1: Watt when he did the thing for charity, but by
Speaker 1: going public with it, Yes, it helps his brand, it
Speaker 1: helps his cue rating what he called, but he also
Speaker 1: gets millions of dollars that he wouldn't have gotten if
Speaker 1: he did it privately. And also I think celebrities and
Speaker 1: other people would do things publicly charity wise think for themselves.
Speaker 1: I can inspire other people that think maybe I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lean towards doing that when I wouldn't have before. Yeah, Sedon,
Speaker 1: I just like the idea that it's better to never
Speaker 1: do anything nice for anyone. Then you can't get accused
Speaker 1: of being phony. Right, I'm just keeping it real. I
Speaker 1: don't do anything for anyone ever. Yes, but at least
Speaker 1: I'm real about it. But but I do it for
Speaker 1: a good reason. I do it for a good cause,
Speaker 1: right me. Yeah, I do for myself. All right, we
Speaker 1: got we got hijacked here. Let me bring it back
Speaker 1: on to the rails. All right, welcome to the program.
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Speaker 1: at Augusta at the Masters, and we'll talk to Reese
Speaker 1: a little bit later on as well. And midway point
Speaker 1: of the NFL season, Sam Monson, who works for Pro
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Speaker 1: season awards. That'll be coming up. Headlines from last night,
Speaker 1: are you all in on the Colts. Have you abandoned
Speaker 1: ship on the Titans? Colts over the Titans thirty four
Speaker 1: to seventeen. The weekend not a great weekend in college football.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame BC, Indiana, Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Northwesterdon
Speaker 1: Purdue Paul Casey right now leading the Masters, you have
Speaker 1: those who didn't finish up yesterday finishing up this morning. Also,
Speaker 1: what happens when they finish up today, then they'll be
Speaker 1: a little bit of time lapsed time between those are
Speaker 1: going out for their second round because they have to
Speaker 1: go back to all eighteen holes and then recut the
Speaker 1: cups for the new pins there. So they finish up,
Speaker 1: everybody goes in, probably get something to eat, and then
Speaker 1: those who are ready to tee off this morning will
Speaker 1: go out, and you know you're going to have golfers
Speaker 1: aren't going to finish their rounds. Those who finish yesterday
Speaker 1: morning will not finish their rounds this afternoon. Hopefully over
Speaker 1: the weekend they're able to make up for this. There
Speaker 1: is a possibility if the event goes long, the Masters
Speaker 1: goes too long on Sunday and cuts into NFL action,
Speaker 1: they will switch I guess over to ABC. From what
Speaker 1: I'm told, ABC would carry the final couple holes of
Speaker 1: the Masters. But getting way ahead of ourselves on this Friday,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty has been obviously the strangest sports calendar in history.
Speaker 1: But once the game's got going, this was the weekend
Speaker 1: a lot of his thought, I'm going to circle that
Speaker 1: one on my calendar. Because we knew we were going
Speaker 1: to have NFL, we were supposed to have a big
Speaker 1: college football weekend, but the SEC was basically sent to
Speaker 1: the sidelines with COVID, and of course we were going
Speaker 1: to have the Masters instead of April in November. Nobody
Speaker 1: wanted to see it this way. We want the Masters
Speaker 1: in April. We wanted galleries out there, patrons, but that's
Speaker 1: not going to happen. But it's a once in a
Speaker 1: lifetime situation, at least I hope it is, and you
Speaker 1: know it's on our plate. Enjoy what a week and
Speaker 1: a hunker down on the couch. You're going to have
Speaker 1: to bring your A game to the remote control here.
Speaker 1: But either way, we're going to need a lot of
Speaker 1: time to be able to kind of sift through everything
Speaker 1: that we have going on this weekend in all the
Speaker 1: different sports. But after everything that's happened, it's more than
Speaker 1: okay for what should be a memorable sports weekend. When
Speaker 1: Tiger's on the leaderboard, the Masters is always entertaining. I
Speaker 1: wanted to see the course, see what it looked like.
Speaker 1: It looks the same a little less, you know, foliage,
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound the same. And I was also wondering
Speaker 1: about that. There are certain players when there is a gallery,
Speaker 1: when there are patrons, they almost enhances who they are
Speaker 1: and how they play. You know, when Tiger does something,
Speaker 1: the crowd responds, Phil Nicholson, there's certain players that would
Speaker 1: benefit more from patrons being there than some of these
Speaker 1: other players. You don't have that home course advantage built
Speaker 1: in at A this week, but we'll keep an eye
Speaker 1: on the leaderboard here. Bryson Deshambo I saw were Nick
Speaker 1: Faldo love Fudo. Faldo said that the first hole at
Speaker 1: Augusta's four hundred and forty five yards, and Nick Faldo
Speaker 1: said that if Deshambo put it on the green that
Speaker 1: he would run around Augusta naked. Deshambo he pulled his
Speaker 1: drive left into the roft and Faldo didn't have to
Speaker 1: get naked. But de Shambo came into the Masters with
Speaker 1: an average drive of three hundred and forty four yards,
Speaker 1: and that's more than ten yards clear of the next
Speaker 1: closest golfer. Plus you have to understand, you know, the
Speaker 1: first hole at Augusta, you go uphill. Nobody's reaching that green,
Speaker 1: But there are certain greens that you know, Deshambo is
Speaker 1: going to be able to do some things that nobody's
Speaker 1: ever done at Augusta. But this is what's great about golf.
Speaker 1: Larry Eyes is sixty two years of age. He shot
Speaker 1: two under. Ryce into Shambo shot two under yesterday. Augusta
Speaker 1: played as a golf course for everybody, and if you
Speaker 1: don't hit it long, you were able to survive. You
Speaker 1: were able to thrive. Bernhard Linger is playing extremely well today.
Speaker 1: I think he's sixty three or sixty four and he
Speaker 1: might be five or six under. Golf is you know,
Speaker 1: that's what's fascinating about it. We've all played with somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't hit it very far, but it always seems
Speaker 1: like they get up and down and you go, how
Speaker 1: are you doing that? And then they'll be the guy
Speaker 1: who just bombs it, but he can't do anything else.
Speaker 1: At Augusta at least today yesterday, You're able to take
Speaker 1: dead aim and that helps some of these hitters who
Speaker 1: don't hit very far. Paul, question to me, glov and,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Okay? Who finishes first?
Speaker 1: Or Hire? I don't know, he's a higher or lower
Speaker 1: tiger wood to Bryson Dschembo Tigers at minus four tire
Speaker 1: but you shoot lower right, tiger. Who's going to have
Speaker 1: a better week tiger or or Bryson Dcembo. Okay, because
Speaker 1: I was actually worried when Bryson hook that. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's over. I already had a seven, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he seems like he's in a good spot. It's very
Speaker 1: rare for somebody to win the Masters if they have
Speaker 1: a double bogie in any round, very very very rare.
Speaker 1: You know, you you may not have all pars bogie's. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of bogeis here. You're gonna have bogies,
Speaker 1: but the double bogie that usually stands out. And maybe
Speaker 1: Ethan who does our stats, you guys know Ethan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you can do some research and back up my
Speaker 1: claim that I don't have any research to back it
Speaker 1: up right now. But I think it's been a while
Speaker 1: since somebody's won the Masters with a double bogie. Yes, Polly,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are hoping for more
Speaker 1: Foliage had Augusta this year and you were, I was.
Speaker 1: I think others, Uh no, you wouldn't want to see
Speaker 1: that course all emblazon and red and browns. No, it
Speaker 1: still looks great. Oh yeah, it still looks spectacular, the
Speaker 1: originality of it. I'm a little disappointed. Also, not a
Speaker 1: lot of white pants this year, because it's November and
Speaker 1: the guy's respect not wearing white pants after you know,
Speaker 1: laber Nay. Other things. I noticed. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: break down golf game. I know, PAULI came in and
Speaker 1: h everybody was sitting around talking about the Masters, and
Speaker 1: Paul goes, you know what I observed. You know, don't
Speaker 1: have anybody wearing some break colors. You know, we don't
Speaker 1: have those springtime colors. And I go, what and and
Speaker 1: I didn't notice a lot of white colored slacks, And
Speaker 1: I go, this is what differentiates this show from all
Speaker 1: the other shows. Tigers were in earth tones. It's like
Speaker 1: a topi brown. I know, that's sort of a blend
Speaker 1: in the background type of outfit today. Yes, McLevin, I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask a real golf question. All those headlines
Speaker 1: Bryson d. Chambou is gonna tear apart the Master's course.
Speaker 1: Its gotta is it is one day enough to know
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen? Or can we be confident
Speaker 1: that he's not going to redefine the way master's play is? Well?
Speaker 1: Only one round here, I mean he's not gonna he's
Speaker 1: obviously I gonna run away to some record masters thing
Speaker 1: like people were talking about. No, but I just want
Speaker 1: to see I mentioned this on Wednesday. You can hit
Speaker 1: it three hundred and fifty yards, but where are you
Speaker 1: hitting it three hundred and fifty yards? You still have
Speaker 1: to play that. This isn't a long drive contest. You
Speaker 1: have to play your next shot. August's all about your
Speaker 1: second shot. It's always been and hopefully always will be.
Speaker 1: It's your second shot that's so important. Where are you
Speaker 1: yardage in a sidehill? Lie? What club are you using?
Speaker 1: What are the greens like? Are they receptive? And can
Speaker 1: you chip and put? I mean that's what this is
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Speaker 1: All right, So what other poll question are we looking at? Me? Glevin,
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of NFL questions. Uh, if some
Speaker 1: off this weekend, some off philip rivers want to start
Speaker 1: with philip rivers? Sure? Why not? Okay, philip Rivers first,
Speaker 1: battle Hall of Famer without even look at the numbers,
Speaker 1: yes or no? You know what, let me ask Sam Munson.
Speaker 1: A Pro football focus is Philip Rivers. Michael Irvin did
Speaker 1: an interview with Philip Rivers. It ran last night and
Speaker 1: he said, Hey, I'll see you in five years at
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And I guess as a first
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, I guess it's not as rare
Speaker 1: when you go, oh, first ballot Hall of Famer. This
Speaker 1: is big in baseball where you're like, oh, you're not
Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer? Are you a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer? Yeah? Yeah, but we're not letting in on
Speaker 1: the first ballot. It feels like, you know, Jason Taylor
Speaker 1: went into the Dolphins on the first ballot. Now, he
Speaker 1: did have a letter of recommendation from Tom Brady, and
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor was a very good player, great player, but
Speaker 1: first ballot. All right, Philip Rivers, first ballot. If he
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything in the playoffs the rest of his career,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: And I know that you look at the numbers and
Speaker 1: I go, okay, that the one thing that really stands
Speaker 1: out to meet with Philip Rivers. He doesn't miss games
Speaker 1: at that position. He does not miss games. How many
Speaker 1: games has he missed in his career? McLevin due to injury? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll check less than five. Yeah, Polly, I got double
Speaker 1: check this. Has he not missed a game in his career?
Speaker 1: I don't have him missing a game in his career
Speaker 1: due to injury because you do not count his first
Speaker 1: two years when he rode the bench because of the
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. It's pretty amazing. He started quarterbacking six and
Speaker 1: I've got him sixteen for sixteen and nine for nine
Speaker 1: this year. I've never heard they even brought up before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what stands out that he was there. You have
Speaker 1: to be able to play and be there for your
Speaker 1: team at that position, and for him to be able
Speaker 1: to do that, that's a truly remarkable stat. Now we've had,
Speaker 1: you know, Brett Farve and I think Peyton Manning for
Speaker 1: a while they were eli on the consecutive games list.
Speaker 1: But he is not missed. Start yea poll. He's been
Speaker 1: sacked four hundred and fifty three times, I mean, and
Speaker 1: he's never been like a big stack guy where he's
Speaker 1: you know, seventy sexs a year, but he ever just thirty.
Speaker 1: You still think out of four hundred, chances are somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna hit you in a way that's really gonna hurt you.
Speaker 1: Put you out. Yes time. You think with all the
Speaker 1: kids he has, he would have missed at least one
Speaker 1: for childbirth. I think he's a he's a pregnancy manager,
Speaker 1: like a game manager, like he knows, you know, he's
Speaker 1: got this planned out. He's a field general, is what
Speaker 1: he is. To field general. All right, let me take
Speaker 1: a break. We got the halfway Point Awards coming up
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Speaker 1: a poll question? McLevin, Yes, I just put up. The
Speaker 1: thing we were debating is Philip Rivers first ballot Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. The first ballot is the interesting part for
Speaker 1: me when Michael Irvin said that last night, I'll see
Speaker 1: you in five years at the Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 1: I went, okay, first ballot, Hall of Famer. Yeah, mcleven's
Speaker 1: that real quick about that Michael Irvin interview. I found
Speaker 1: a little sad that Michael Irvin was complaining that his
Speaker 1: kids kept on breaking into his interview room. What happened
Speaker 1: to the playmaker with all the partying and the like.
Speaker 1: That is not the end that you used to know, Dad, No,
Speaker 1: it's not. And that's a good thing. And if we'd
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Speaker 1: Sam Mounts and Pro Football Focus lead NFL analysts, Sam,
Speaker 1: good morning, thanks for joining us. Let me start with
Speaker 1: that question the Hall of Fame. It feels like is
Speaker 1: based off of the feelings we have for these players.
Speaker 1: When the writers get together and they nominate somebody, they're
Speaker 1: very passionate about it. You deal with analytics, just the
Speaker 1: analytical part of this. With Philip Rivers, is he a
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer? I think it's tough because
Speaker 1: you're comparing into the guys from bygone eras for whom
Speaker 1: we don't really have all that data. I mean, one
Speaker 1: of the great things about PFF, whether you agree with
Speaker 1: our numbers or you disagree with them, is we have
Speaker 1: the grading on every single player on every single play
Speaker 1: since we started doing this back in two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: so we can at least try and compare these guys
Speaker 1: like for like. But it gets really hard when you
Speaker 1: start trying to say, all right, Philip Rivers just passed
Speaker 1: Dan Marino on the all time passing yards list. But
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody out there that saw both
Speaker 1: those guys play that would say Philip Rivers is a
Speaker 1: better quarterback than Dan Marino. Dan Marino was obviously a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and no one would argue that. But
Speaker 1: because of this explosion in passing and how much easier
Speaker 1: it is to play quarterback in today's NFL, and how
Speaker 1: all these guys are now at the top of the
Speaker 1: all time lists. Does that put Philip Rivers in? I
Speaker 1: don't know who's more of a first ballot Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame or Frank Gore or Philip Rivers. I think Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: I think Frank Gore's legacy is this insane durability that
Speaker 1: really is remarkable when you look at what he was
Speaker 1: as a prospect, Like he dropped in the draft because
Speaker 1: people were concerned that he'd had multiple knee surgeries and
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't last in the NFL. And then the
Speaker 1: defining characteristic or Frank Gore's there's nothing that can knock
Speaker 1: this guy out of the league, and he just keeps
Speaker 1: on trucking. Well, the same thing with Philip Rivers. He
Speaker 1: hasn't missed a game. True, true, but I think Philip
Speaker 1: rivers peaks have been higher than Frank Gore's. I think
Speaker 1: you can make the case that Philip Rivers has been
Speaker 1: genuinely one of the best quarterbacks over the past over
Speaker 1: his entire career. I don't know that you can really
Speaker 1: make that case for Frank Gore outside of a season
Speaker 1: or two if you were going to redraft this first round.
Speaker 1: I saw where you looked at the first round and
Speaker 1: went back and looked at how these rookies are performing.
Speaker 1: What is there somebody that stands out that that they
Speaker 1: would have changed the draft, that they would have gone
Speaker 1: either higher or lower based hall after eight games, that
Speaker 1: how they performed where they were drafted. I think Minnesota's
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson would definitely be higher of the list, and
Speaker 1: he is now. He might be the first receiver off
Speaker 1: the board if we had a chance to redo all
Speaker 1: this all again, all of his concerns when we were
Speaker 1: looking at him as a college prospect as well. He
Speaker 1: did incredibly from the slot. But can he play outside?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Can he play outside when he has to
Speaker 1: deal with press coverage? Can he still get off the line?
Speaker 1: Can he still do all that sound rent running stuff.
Speaker 1: The answer is overwhelmingly yes, and that just immediately puts
Speaker 1: you further up the draft because you're a more impactful
Speaker 1: player when you can play outside and deal with the
Speaker 1: press coverage. At the NFL level, he's been an absolute
Speaker 1: superstar wide receiver, and I think very much the match
Speaker 1: of any of those top first round guys. Highest grade
Speaker 1: you've given to a rookie this year's who I think
Speaker 1: right now, it's actually Michael Owen, who the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: I guess utility offensive lineman because he's played three different
Speaker 1: positions and done them all well. But this was not
Speaker 1: a highly tired draft pick. He's just come in and
Speaker 1: been an absolute force, particularly in the run game, and
Speaker 1: filled in wherever they've need him, whether it's right tackle,
Speaker 1: whether it's the guard position, and really been phenomenal. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen people say that if this guy
Speaker 1: was a first round or we'd be talking about how
Speaker 1: New England's draft was fantastic because they snagged this Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl all caliber player right at the top of the draft.
Speaker 1: But because he's a, you know, a lower round guy,
Speaker 1: it's kind of passing almost unnoticed higher grade for Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow or Justin Herbert. It's funny because they're in almost
Speaker 1: exactly the same spot. They're really tied together in terms
Speaker 1: of grading, but the grade comes about in almost completely
Speaker 1: opposite ways. Joe Burrow has been incredibly consistent, particularly up
Speaker 1: to the sort of deep big shots, anything below twenty yards.
Speaker 1: He's been absolute money and has been doing it in
Speaker 1: the face of incredible pressure in Cincinnati. Justin Herbert is
Speaker 1: like the king of the volatile stats. So whether it's
Speaker 1: third down play, whether it's deep throws down the field,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, all those big time throws and
Speaker 1: those kinds of things the PF charts, He's been a
Speaker 1: phenomenal at those things, but has missed more regular easy throws,
Speaker 1: miss more of the kind of consistently easy stuff than
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has. And he's been dealing with pressure as well,
Speaker 1: and it kind of nets out to almost the exact
Speaker 1: same PF grade overall. What about Clyde Edwards Hilaire his
Speaker 1: grade aid and where he probably should have been taken
Speaker 1: even though he is a running back. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: really the thing is, you know, PF is in this
Speaker 1: analytics group that would say, look, just don't take a
Speaker 1: running back in the first round. It's not that they
Speaker 1: won't ever look good, it's that they just won't justify
Speaker 1: that draft slot. You could get him later on the draft,
Speaker 1: or get a comparable player later on the draft, and
Speaker 1: you'd see the same kind of production. And I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're seeing from Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
Speaker 1: He's great as Okay, he's had good games, but really
Speaker 1: what we're seeing is this product of the Kansas City offense.
Speaker 1: And when that thing is ticking along, when it's going great,
Speaker 1: when Mahomes is playing out of his mind and Patch
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid is scheming up all these plays, Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire is a good player to have on the
Speaker 1: receiving end of those catches out of the backfield and
Speaker 1: be taking the carries. But when things don't go as well,
Speaker 1: he has those worst games and just doesn't look as good.
Speaker 1: Running Backs are basically a product of their environment within
Speaker 1: the offense. He's Sam Munson, Pro Football Focus, lead NFL analyst.
Speaker 1: Who do you can sidered the best running back in
Speaker 1: the NFL? I think right now it's Dalvin Cook. Again
Speaker 1: what I just said, running backs are buying large a
Speaker 1: product of their environment. He's the one guy this season
Speaker 1: that isn't I mean, he's been massively overperforming what the
Speaker 1: Vikings have been giving him. In terms of yards. He
Speaker 1: has by far, I think, the most yards after contact
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and only himself and Derrick Henry have
Speaker 1: more total yards than Dalvin Cook has. Yards after contact.
Speaker 1: He's just consistently generating an incredible amount of yardage off
Speaker 1: his own back beyond what is being blocked for him.
Speaker 1: We brought this up a couple of days ago. I
Speaker 1: asked the audience, you could have any wide receiver for
Speaker 1: the next five years, who do you think they picked?
Speaker 1: Dk YEA. Yeah, did his slippage in the draft and
Speaker 1: his profile was just based off he looks like he
Speaker 1: should be great, but he's always injured. Is that what
Speaker 1: it boiled down to. No, I think there were legit
Speaker 1: him at concerns about his change of direction skills he had.
Speaker 1: He went to the combine and posted this three cone
Speaker 1: time that was slower than Tom Brady. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: historically bad, and he fixed it a little bit at
Speaker 1: his pro day, like he got faster the one at
Speaker 1: the combine he slipped a little bit and they don't
Speaker 1: let you take it again. So it was a bad
Speaker 1: time there. He improved it at his pro day, but
Speaker 1: it still wasn't good. It was still a concern, as
Speaker 1: was his twenty shuttle time. So anything that was trying
Speaker 1: to measure change of direction he was really bad at.
Speaker 1: And I think that leads you to think well, okay,
Speaker 1: does that limit him at the next level to just
Speaker 1: being this linear, vertical threat guy who can't really run
Speaker 1: the entire route tree. Even considering that, I think most
Speaker 1: draft analysts had him going higher than he went in
Speaker 1: the draft. It was still a shock to see him
Speaker 1: slip as far as he did. But I think there
Speaker 1: were real concerns about, you know, a missing component to
Speaker 1: his game that just has been changed, that aren't that
Speaker 1: isn't a missing component anymore. When does Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: do a deep dive into Trevor Lawrence and Justin Field.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got guys cranking on that right now.
Speaker 1: We do. We grade every college game as well, so
Speaker 1: we've got grades on all of these guys. Mike Renner
Speaker 1: is our big draft guy. He's been the guy grinding
Speaker 1: on that every single game of those guys careers. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have a specific deep dive
Speaker 1: article up on the site, but we've definitely got data
Speaker 1: on all those guys right now. Are they working in
Speaker 1: that room behind that door behind you? Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: room that goes downstairs into a basement where there's just
Speaker 1: one little light hanging out of the ceiling. That's where
Speaker 1: we put all the analysts worst starting quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Is who the worst starting quarterback? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you can say it was Dwayne Haskins before he lost
Speaker 1: his job. Now it's it's going to be a battle
Speaker 1: between you know, Sam Darnold in New York Drew Locke
Speaker 1: in Denver. It hasn't shown enough really to get out
Speaker 1: of that conversation. It's it's those kind of young guys
Speaker 1: that have have disappointed in bad situations so far. And
Speaker 1: I thought this was Drew locks coming out party and
Speaker 1: they had weapons, and here we go with Drew Locke.
Speaker 1: I know, we got injured, but it feels like Sam
Speaker 1: that the window of opportunity is about two years. Like
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfields in his third year and it feels like
Speaker 1: he's playing for his future in Cleveland. Are you guys
Speaker 1: getting the sense of how long that window is for
Speaker 1: a quarterback to prove himself. I think you know, this
Speaker 1: run of quarterbacks that have been successful right away have
Speaker 1: definitely changed the opinion of how long you get. And
Speaker 1: if you don't show something almost right away, you have
Speaker 1: to fight pretty hard for that job, particularly if you're
Speaker 1: not a top pick. You know, if you're a first
Speaker 1: you're number one overall pick, you get a little bit
Speaker 1: more time to show something. But if you're not, you know,
Speaker 1: you get a year or two and then we got
Speaker 1: to move on. It's it's time to find the next guy,
Speaker 1: because it's not the landscape is different to the way
Speaker 1: it was a decade ago. You're not in a spot
Speaker 1: anymore where you have to give Alex Smith one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar contract because the prospect of not having Alex
Speaker 1: Smith is so terrifying. You can find those guys pretty
Speaker 1: easily now, and so teams are much more emboldened to say,
Speaker 1: all right, this guy is not a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: he's not the next All Pro we need. We're gonna
Speaker 1: cut bait and move on to the next guy. Do
Speaker 1: you remember when we sort of took a player for
Speaker 1: granted the way we do Patrick Mahomes, And this feels
Speaker 1: like the embryonic stages of Michael Jordan's greatness when he
Speaker 1: had team's success. Prior to that, he was sort of
Speaker 1: just a highlight reel phenomenon. Then they started winning and
Speaker 1: it felt like we got bored with this story. And
Speaker 1: then Karl Malone won an MVP and Charles Barkley won
Speaker 1: an MVP. I don't are we at that stage with
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes where? And I know Russell has played extremely well,
Speaker 1: But are we at the point where we're taking Patrick
Speaker 1: mahomes were granted and I'll give you one in the
Speaker 1: NFL as well. I think we've already passed that point
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald. I think you know, Aaron Donald should
Speaker 1: have won every Defensive Player of the Year award since
Speaker 1: his rookie season. So not the rookie season, but everyone
Speaker 1: since then should have gone to Aaron Donald, and they
Speaker 1: haven't because we've just gotten bored giving the award to
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, who is by far and away the best
Speaker 1: defensive player in the NFL. I think he's the best player.
Speaker 1: How do you gauge that, though, Sam? I mean to me,
Speaker 1: it's how much further ahead is he than the rest
Speaker 1: of his peers at his position? Right? So it's it's
Speaker 1: really hard to compare positions to say the best defensive
Speaker 1: lineman in the NFL is better than the best linebacker,
Speaker 1: is better than the best safety, the best receiver. So
Speaker 1: let's just stick to his position group and say how
Speaker 1: much better is he than Fletcher Cox or Chris Jones
Speaker 1: or whoever else the next interior guy is. And I
Speaker 1: think it's light years ahead of those guys when you
Speaker 1: consider how much more pressure he gets, how much more
Speaker 1: pressure he gets on a rate basis, and how much
Speaker 1: more he's double team than some of those guys and
Speaker 1: still doing that. It's absolutely unbelievable. And just in terms
Speaker 1: of PF grading, you know, the top X seasons in
Speaker 1: terms of PF raids on the interior have all been
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. It's just a list of Aaron Donald seasons
Speaker 1: that very slightly. So I think you're right, though, I
Speaker 1: think Mahomes is reaching that category where you need to
Speaker 1: watch him again to remind yourself that like this isn't normal.
Speaker 1: Most quarterbacks don't do this, and we should remember that
Speaker 1: this guy is a singularly unique talents otherwise we will
Speaker 1: get bored with him the same way we do with
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Sam, good to talk to you, and thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Thank you, Sam Munson, Pro Football focused
Speaker 1: lead NFL analysts. Yeah, we get bored, it feels like.
Speaker 1: And I used to argue this all the time, and
Speaker 1: I remember I caught grief from Utah Jazz fans because
Speaker 1: I publicly would say who I voted for for MVPIT
Speaker 1: and I said, I voted for Michael Jordan. Karl Malone
Speaker 1: had a great year. It's weird to say, you know,
Speaker 1: Lebron James, we took for granted. Do you know the
Speaker 1: last time Lebron James won the MVP twenty thirteen. He's
Speaker 1: the most valuable player in the NBA. May not be
Speaker 1: the best, but the most valuable. And the same goes,
Speaker 1: you know, with Michael Jordan. It was just Charles Barkley
Speaker 1: had a wonderful year for the Phoenix Suns. I was
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, you go, Okay, I'm gonna because
Speaker 1: we're tired of talking about Jordan. I gotta give it
Speaker 1: to Charles Barkley. And Charles is a friend, and I said, Charles,
Speaker 1: I voted for Jordan, and he goes, I understand, I
Speaker 1: get it. Carl Malone didn't have the same feeling, by
Speaker 1: the way. He's like, yeah, I should have won a
Speaker 1: couple of them. I'm like, okay, I don't know how many.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady should have. He's got three, you know, but
Speaker 1: that's really based off of incredible stats like Jordan was
Speaker 1: just it was just that feel who was the most
Speaker 1: valuable player. It was just Jordan and you know Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is his value shows up in the playoffs. Now,
Speaker 1: that's where he's the most valuable player in the NFL
Speaker 1: and maybe the most valuable player in the history of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yes, think it's fair to say that there's
Speaker 1: not really one most valuable player. There's like a there's
Speaker 1: like a handful of guys and like like Lebron, Steph Durant,
Speaker 1: we're all in the two thousand and tens, we're all
Speaker 1: right there every year. I mean, you could have given
Speaker 1: it to anything, but Lebron is the most valuable person
Speaker 1: in the NBA. He's the most valuable player, right, but
Speaker 1: not during the Warriors run. I mean, like he couldn't
Speaker 1: he got he beat the Warriors one year. But basically,
Speaker 1: like the Warriors set that single season record, they did
Speaker 1: all sorts of things. They had a dominant run, but
Speaker 1: they didn't win. They didn't win the title. They won three.
Speaker 1: They didn't win the title when they set the record
Speaker 1: for victories. Right, he's step tweaked his knee, but they
Speaker 1: basically then they got Durant, they won three. They were
Speaker 1: the dominant force of the NBA all those guys are MVPs.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying like Lebron hasn't
Speaker 1: won an MVP in seven years. There's that seemed correct,
Speaker 1: seem right. No, But that's because we got bored. That's
Speaker 1: why I thought Lebron had a legitimate case this year,
Speaker 1: only because the voters would go. He kind of reinvented himself.
Speaker 1: He went to the West and said he couldn't win
Speaker 1: the West Western Conference. He acquires Anthony Davis. He himself
Speaker 1: got Anthony Davis there, and that still wasn't good enough
Speaker 1: because we looked at the Greek freak with what he
Speaker 1: did during the regular season. But he Lebron leads the
Speaker 1: league and assist at thirty five, He's still playing at
Speaker 1: an extremely high level. Like, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: assess value. Does it come down to stats? Does it
Speaker 1: come down to team record? If you say, how far
Speaker 1: are you going in the playoffs? I mean, Lebron is
Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals. What you know? Tom Brady's been
Speaker 1: to Super Bowls? Like he's there, he goes. He doesn't
Speaker 1: win as often, but he gets there, and he usually
Speaker 1: goes with an underman team like he did in Cleveland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but during that run, couldn't you say all those things
Speaker 1: about Steph Curry? He sort of redefined He was a
Speaker 1: great Lake leader. You know, he came in. Everybody the
Speaker 1: league change piece of him too. He was kind of
Speaker 1: an MVP even when he didn't win it. It's a
Speaker 1: shorter run, definitely, But that's why he wasn't even the
Speaker 1: best player on his own team when KD came there.
Speaker 1: When's the last time you say that about Lebron James.
Speaker 1: Somebody he's playing with is better than him, right? But
Speaker 1: in two thy sixteen, the Warriors were the team though.
Speaker 1: That's why I like it, just like I know Lebron
Speaker 1: one one, but that was a considered an upset if
Speaker 1: they were the dominant team. I have no problem. If
Speaker 1: you want to give Steph Curry another MVP, I have
Speaker 1: no problem. You want to take away an MVP from
Speaker 1: Steve Nash, I don't. I'm not be holding to any
Speaker 1: of these guys. I just look at it and I
Speaker 1: assess it in my own terminology, my own opinion. I
Speaker 1: try not to play favorites. Uh. You know, people look
Speaker 1: at a story. What is the story this year? What's
Speaker 1: the story next year? It's not the Greek freak. May
Speaker 1: not be Lebron, it may be Steph Curry coming back.
Speaker 1: Writers are looking for a story. What are you going
Speaker 1: to write about with a freak this year? Hey, he
Speaker 1: averaged thirty thirteen and five. Great, you know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna say, Well, what's he going to do in the postseason?
Speaker 1: Whether that's fair or not, there's no story to write there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in club. Yeah, Greek freak. Sorry, Greek freak go
Speaker 1: fifty like will. They're never giving him another one, right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be mad that he didn't show up in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. If he would win a title, then they
Speaker 1: would look at him differently. But they're looking for stories,
Speaker 1: looking for stories. We'll take a break here. Play of
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Speaker 1: a half hour ago how rare it is to have
Speaker 1: somebody win the Masters and have a double bogie during
Speaker 1: their realm. We saw this with Bryson Deshambo, just one
Speaker 1: of the last eleven Masters winners had a double bogie
Speaker 1: or worse at any point and went on to win
Speaker 1: the tournament. That was Jordan's Speed in twenty fifteen. What's
Speaker 1: more rare is taking a double bogie on a par five,
Speaker 1: as Deshambo did. He. Uh you know the last time
Speaker 1: somebody took a double bogie on a par five at
Speaker 1: Augusta gone on to win Jack Nicholas in nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 1: Maybe just an omen for Bryson Deshambo. All right, uh oh,
Speaker 1: who's who's got the who? Whose stats would you want here? Mclovin,
Speaker 1: is this you? Okay? Yeah, I just set this out.
Speaker 1: Whose stats would you want? Okay? I smell a setup?
Speaker 1: Yeah I do too, well? Whose status would you want?
Speaker 1: It's always a setup? Okay? Do you want me to
Speaker 1: read them? Yeah? Sure? Went during forty nine yards per game?
Speaker 1: Is this this season? This season? Okay? Sixty five point
Speaker 1: six completion percentage, ten tds, seven interceptions or two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty five yards per game fifty eight point four
Speaker 1: completion percentage, twelve tds, twelve picks, which might be a
Speaker 1: clue you might know who. I mean, Yes, So whose
Speaker 1: stacks do I want? Carson Wentz? The bottom one is
Speaker 1: Carson where yes? And the other one is Nick Foles
Speaker 1: is putting together a nice little skull season for the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, and everybody is killing him. I'm not killing him.
Speaker 1: I just said Nick Foles is not a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's not a franchise quarterback. Not you, but people are
Speaker 1: really killing him. But I don't know if that's not
Speaker 1: just a Chicago jinks. Nobody you could play on that
Speaker 1: Bears uniform and you can't. You can't do it. Nah.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think Nick Foles is a great reliever.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a great starter. He's had moments,
Speaker 1: but he's not. I still think Carson Wentz is a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, but so far and maybe the second half
Speaker 1: of the season we might not see it. With the
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, it's banged up as it's been,
Speaker 1: and then you get into bad habits and maybe Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz has just got into bad habits there. Cody in Michigan, Hey,
Speaker 1: Cody what's on your mind? Hey, Dan, first time a
Speaker 1: long time five ten, two h five. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: just want to talk about this Philip Rivers Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame issue. I think I think Rivers has been lucky
Speaker 1: enough to have sort of a recency bias with a
Speaker 1: lot of great quarterbacks that came in his generation. You
Speaker 1: look at Donovan McNabb, he went to multiple championships, went
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl, had zero MVP votes. Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: you know high number is really good quarterback, had two
Speaker 1: MVP votes. Philip Rivers, you know, stayed healthy, never really
Speaker 1: got to the super Bowl. He had four MVP votes.
Speaker 1: So there's all these quarterbacks that come in. You look
Speaker 1: at Eli Manning two super Bowls. They're all great quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, Rivers it's assumed to be the
Speaker 1: automatic Hall of Famer, where I think you could argue
Speaker 1: that all four of them are just in the Hall
Speaker 1: of the very good. Yeah you could. I mean, Eli
Speaker 1: without the two super bowls is in the Hall of
Speaker 1: good or very good. But he's got those super bowls
Speaker 1: and he beat the Patriots. Okay, one hour in the books,
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