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Speaker 3: How much money can you actually might make writing a song.
Speaker 4: A high one hundred, like a number one one hundred
Speaker 4: song you can make you know, I mean as far
Speaker 4: as it can generate I'm sorry, the song could generate,
Speaker 4: you know, from on the publisher side, a minimum of
Speaker 4: a million dollars if it's a number one, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. You know, it could generate a lot
Speaker 4: of money. And depending on the splits and who you know,
Speaker 4: So if you're in a publishing deal, if you're not
Speaker 4: a publishing deal, if you know what I mean, if
Speaker 4: you're on fifteen percent of the song, if you on
Speaker 4: twenty five percent of the song, if you on fifty.
Speaker 4: I mean it depends on the split. But the song
Speaker 4: itself could generate a lot of money. You you can
Speaker 4: make a lot of money if you are a hit songwriter.
Speaker 3: Let's if you're a top hundred.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the dream, Like, all right, so who's your
Speaker 5: top songwriter?
Speaker 3: The dream is a dream the top songwriter?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: So he's making millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: He's making tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: I looked at that just every year, just off of
Speaker 3: that Copboy car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's making he's making a lot.
Speaker 5: But he also said he said something about like working
Speaker 5: with Beyonce with you know, it's not a regular deal
Speaker 5: working with Beyonce.
Speaker 3: No, your splits is going to be a lot less.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But but the but the but the density of those songs,
Speaker 4: the entity is a lot of them. Like, he makes
Speaker 4: a lot of the songs, and those songs performed so well.
Speaker 4: I mean even when you don't think those songs are
Speaker 4: performing well, you know what I mean. We were talking
Speaker 4: about this the other day. I was saying somebody asked me, like,
Speaker 4: what do you think about Cowboy card? And I was like,
Speaker 4: I like it right, and it was like, we don't
Speaker 4: really hear a lot of it, you know what I
Speaker 4: was like, Go look at the metrics, like where where her?
Speaker 1: Where her the music? Like she is doing well?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, that's interesting because I haven't heard this song.
Speaker 5: I haven't heard too many songs either, So where's where's
Speaker 5: it doing well at?
Speaker 4: She's doing well on all DSPs, She's doing well. Now,
Speaker 4: she's doing well country music rats. You know, her fans
Speaker 4: are so relentless, you know what I mean, Like they
Speaker 4: just she could really do no wrong with her fans,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So when you have a
Speaker 4: fan base like that, you super serve them. I mean,
Speaker 4: she's super served to be high, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like no Worther, like you saw a renaissance, Like everybody
Speaker 4: had on silver and coming to the silver I'm black
Speaker 4: at the concert, So what you think to go be
Speaker 4: wearing at the concert?
Speaker 1: Cowboy Carter.
Speaker 4: Everybody going to have on cowboy boots and chaps and
Speaker 4: you know Cowboy has Like she's she super serves her
Speaker 4: audience in a way that I haven't really seen artists
Speaker 4: do in a long time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So even though to the to the to the to
Speaker 4: us the consumers who are like the general consumers, it
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like massive, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: for her fans it's it's massive. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. Take our money, you know. And so when
Speaker 4: you so as you're the dream right and you are
Speaker 4: locked into that situation, that's like it's like guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: It's like every time, every time, you know.
Speaker 6: I so, when you have a number one, you gotta
Speaker 6: feel a bunch of them. Let's take burn, let's dig.
Speaker 3: You got a Bad as You.
Speaker 6: Confessions Part two, which they said is the greatest R
Speaker 6: and B record of the congratulationship a brother. Yes, when
Speaker 6: you have a record like that, the longevity longevity of
Speaker 6: it obviously plays out. But when you make a classic,
Speaker 6: is there a competition within yourself to say how do
Speaker 6: I recreate it or how do I top it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean always before I think now it isn't now.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter now because I mean I'm forty six years.
Speaker 4: I have been doing this for twenty six years, twenty
Speaker 4: seven years now, So it's like, you know, it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I think that you can you can get
Speaker 4: lost in the sauce trying to chase something that was right.
Speaker 1: All you could do is just.
Speaker 4: Continue to try to outdo your The competition is not
Speaker 4: about the The competition is about the competitive spirit is
Speaker 4: about can I do? Can I make another one kind
Speaker 4: of just it don't even have to be another the
Speaker 4: same thing. Can I just make something interesting that people
Speaker 4: want to hear?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And we do it so much now, you know we
Speaker 4: make we make music every day, So we make music
Speaker 4: every day all your life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've been in the game twenty six, twenty seven years.
Speaker 4: I've been making music as I was you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been playing music as I was a kid.
Speaker 4: So every day in your life, it's like it's now,
Speaker 4: it's just you know, you just the competition is to
Speaker 4: continue is to create creative, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You know, it's the hope that the creativity never runs out.
Speaker 4: So you listen to things, you try to you now,
Speaker 4: it's just trying to stay inspired.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: The writing team, like I said that y'all make hits.
Speaker 6: So I know you and Jermaine still right, do you
Speaker 6: John say and do y'all ever get together and say, yeah,
Speaker 6: let's let's create something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we we we.
Speaker 4: You know, John say is is Uh has been leaning
Speaker 4: more to the you know, business house. He went to
Speaker 4: he went back to college and got his degree in business,
Speaker 4: you know, business degree and all that, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So he's really working closely with us. You're
Speaker 4: now in that capacity, But we're still right, we still
Speaker 4: you know, we still have those moments, will be coming
Speaker 4: together and do that. You know, me, me and Jermaine
Speaker 4: are pretty much the studio rats. We do want in
Speaker 4: the studio all day, all night, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But but so because everybody kind of works with each
Speaker 4: other in different capacities, we're always going to always be
Speaker 4: in a room together at some point.
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