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P and C Bank National Association 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Member FDIC. 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: How much money can you actually might make writing a song. 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: A high one hundred, like a number one one hundred 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: song you can make you know, I mean as far 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: as it can generate I'm sorry, the song could generate, 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: you know, from on the publisher side, a minimum of 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: a million dollars if it's a number one, you know 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: what I mean. You know, it could generate a lot 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: of money. And depending on the splits and who you know, 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: So if you're in a publishing deal, if you're not 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: a publishing deal, if you know what I mean, if 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: you're on fifteen percent of the song, if you on 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: twenty five percent of the song, if you on fifty. 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 4: I mean it depends on the split. But the song 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: itself could generate a lot of money. You you can 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 4: make a lot of money if you are a hit songwriter. 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Let's if you're a top hundred. 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, like the dream, Like, all right, so who's your 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 5: top songwriter? 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: The dream is a dream the top songwriter? 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: So he's making millions of dollars. 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: He's making tens of millions of dollars. 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: I looked at that just every year, just off of 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: that Copboy car. 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's making he's making a lot. 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 5: But he also said he said something about like working 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 5: with Beyonce with you know, it's not a regular deal 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 5: working with Beyonce. 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: No, your splits is going to be a lot less. 62 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 63 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: But but the but the but the density of those songs, 64 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: the entity is a lot of them. Like, he makes 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: a lot of the songs, and those songs performed so well. 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: I mean even when you don't think those songs are 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: performing well, you know what I mean. We were talking 68 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 4: about this the other day. I was saying somebody asked me, like, 69 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: what do you think about Cowboy card? And I was like, 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: I like it right, and it was like, we don't 71 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: really hear a lot of it, you know what I 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: was like, Go look at the metrics, like where where her? 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: Where her the music? Like she is doing well? 74 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, that's interesting because I haven't heard this song. 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: I haven't heard too many songs either, So where's where's 76 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 5: it doing well at? 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: She's doing well on all DSPs, She's doing well. Now, 78 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: she's doing well country music rats. You know, her fans 79 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: are so relentless, you know what I mean, Like they 80 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: just she could really do no wrong with her fans, 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So when you have a 82 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: fan base like that, you super serve them. I mean, 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: she's super served to be high, you know what I mean, 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: Like no Worther, like you saw a renaissance, Like everybody 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: had on silver and coming to the silver I'm black 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: at the concert, So what you think to go be 87 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: wearing at the concert? 88 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Cowboy Carter. 89 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: Everybody going to have on cowboy boots and chaps and 90 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: you know Cowboy has Like she's she super serves her 91 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: audience in a way that I haven't really seen artists 92 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: do in a long time, you know what I mean. 93 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: So even though to the to the to the to 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: us the consumers who are like the general consumers, it 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 4: doesn't feel like massive, you know what I mean. But 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: for her fans it's it's massive. Yeah, you know what 97 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: I mean. Take our money, you know. And so when 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: you so as you're the dream right and you are 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 4: locked into that situation, that's like it's like guaranteed money. 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: It's like every time, every time, you know. 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 6: I so, when you have a number one, you gotta 102 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 6: feel a bunch of them. Let's take burn, let's dig. 103 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: You got a Bad as You. 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 6: Confessions Part two, which they said is the greatest R 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 6: and B record of the congratulationship a brother. Yes, when 106 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 6: you have a record like that, the longevity longevity of 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: it obviously plays out. But when you make a classic, 108 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 6: is there a competition within yourself to say how do 109 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 6: I recreate it or how do I top it? 110 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 111 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 4: I mean always before I think now it isn't now. 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter now because I mean I'm forty six years. 113 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: I have been doing this for twenty six years, twenty 114 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 4: seven years now, So it's like, you know, it's like, 115 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: you know, I think that you can you can get 116 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: lost in the sauce trying to chase something that was right. 117 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: All you could do is just. 118 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: Continue to try to outdo your The competition is not 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: about the The competition is about the competitive spirit is 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: about can I do? Can I make another one kind 121 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: of just it don't even have to be another the 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: same thing. Can I just make something interesting that people 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 4: want to hear? 124 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 125 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: And we do it so much now, you know we 126 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: make we make music every day, So we make music 127 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: every day all your life, you know what I mean. 128 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: I've been in the game twenty six, twenty seven years. 129 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: I've been making music as I was you know, yeah, 130 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: I've been. I've been playing music as I was a kid. 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: So every day in your life, it's like it's now, 132 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 4: it's just you know, you just the competition is to 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: continue is to create creative, you know what I mean? 134 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's the hope that the creativity never runs out. 135 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 4: So you listen to things, you try to you now, 136 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: it's just trying to stay inspired. 137 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: You know. 138 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 6: The writing team, like I said that y'all make hits. 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: So I know you and Jermaine still right, do you 140 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 6: John say and do y'all ever get together and say, yeah, 141 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 6: let's let's create something. 142 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we we we. 143 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: You know, John say is is Uh has been leaning 144 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: more to the you know, business house. 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