1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Training camps. It's kind of like, it's kind of a 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: tough question. Training camp is hard work, Training camp is tough. 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Training camp gives the young guys an idea of west 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: to come for their career. But training COUMP training camp 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: is a blessing. It's the season finale of the Hard 6 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Knocks Podcast. Present to buy around the NFL, the Detroit Lions, 7 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: another season in the books, Dan Hands is here the 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: tiny box to my tug boat. Tug box, tug Box Tuesday, 9 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: tug Box Tuesday, Clear the Road. Yes, that was the 10 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: voice of Khalil Pimpleton. One of many compelling stories that 11 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: we followed along over the five episodes. And what I 12 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: thought was one of the better Hard Knocks seasons we've had. 13 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Um in uh for NFL Films and HBO, so great 14 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: job by the whole production and and I think this 15 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: is the episode and this is a in the tradition 16 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks, Connie, Episode five is the payoff, and 17 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: it's especially the payoff for all of these young players, 18 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: these underdogs. Do they make the team. If they don't 19 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: make the team, what happens next? And you hear that, 20 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: like Khleil Pempleton, perfect example wide receiver. We talked about 21 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: him on last week's show, the big drop in the 22 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: preseason game and the die had been cast um and 23 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: yet he catches on with the Giants on their practice squad, 24 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: David Blow the quarterback. He gets cut in a surprise move, 25 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: he catches on with the Vikings, who claim him on waivers. 26 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: It to Mellen, like the like when you're in high 27 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: school and you have your group of friends and this 28 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: is really a credit to the show because you get 29 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: close and you feel like you're part of the team 30 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: in a way. When your friends go off to college 31 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: and you're not all the pirates anymore. Now you're you're 32 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: all these different other your gators, and you're you know, seminoles, 33 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: and you're this and you're that, and you just be like, 34 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I wish we were all still together. But that's not 35 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I know, honestly, Hard Knocks. It's like we're dreams are 36 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: realized and then also broken and crushed. And you know, 37 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you see that throughout the whole episode and throughout the 38 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: whole series. And Dan, you're like a Hard Knocks historian, 39 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: so you know the rhythms of and it's so proud 40 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: of you at this point. But I think with this 41 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: season specifically, there are I always fall in love with 42 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: a few of the players because that's what Hard Knocks 43 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: traditionally does. But I also have fallen so in love 44 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: with the coaching staff, and it's been a theme and 45 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: we talk about it every single week. UM. So I 46 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: think that this episode, the cuts episode, it cuts different 47 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: because you're seeing the coaches emotional about It's just a 48 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: montage to start of breakups with the cuts at the 49 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: top of the show, and you can see I think 50 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: you can really tell a lot about people in general, 51 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: but especially with the players, and I think for the coaches, 52 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: this is important to see how the players react to 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: being cut and some of the guys, I'm sure they're 54 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: all heartbroken about it, but you can see, for instance, 55 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Dan Skipper, I didn't even know he was on the team, 56 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: hardly knew you Dan want to talk about Skipper? Yeah, 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: And he was so upset and he looked at them 58 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, is there anything else I 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: could have done? And my heart just broke into a 60 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: zillion pieces watching that. I want to I want to 61 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: say about about that in particular, and some of this 62 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: is kind of a conjecture because we don't know for sure, 63 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: but Dan Skipper is not someone that we followed closely 64 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: on this show. Might have been the first time he 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: showed up on the show as far as I know 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: in terms of getting the type of real camera time. 67 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: He's an offensive tackle. And this came during a sequence 68 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: where we're getting little bits and pieces of the conversations 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: between the g M Brad Holmes coach Dan Campbell and 70 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: the players that were being let go Tim Boyle, Devin 71 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: Funch's skipper, Bruce Hector, defensive end Jared Davis Um. And Yes, 72 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: that definitely resonated with me, the players and the things 73 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: that they said, um, And it didn't feel like it 74 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: was coming from a place like they needed to say it. 75 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: It was more like, I really like what you guys 76 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: are building here. You you have respect, I think, being 77 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: as they said, you're building a culture where men can 78 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: be themselves. That's all real. I got that vibe, and 79 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: I thought the Skipper situation made me think about Hard 80 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: Knocks and if you, if you follow the show long enough, 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: there have been times in the past where Hard Knocks 82 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: got some criticism for almost the voyeuristic look into this. 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: These cutdowns and brutality to it. I am member who 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: was the cornerback of the Dolphins years ago, the two 85 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: thousand twelve season. I think it was when he got 86 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: he learned he was being traded, I believe, and he says, oh, 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I need to call my grandma. And the GM I 88 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: think it was Jeff Ireland at the time. It was 89 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: just kind of like a deeply personal moment, and you 90 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: really felt for it. We felt you felt for the 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: player um and Dan Skipper looked like his lip was 92 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: quivering when they first cut to him. Then they come 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: back and all you get is him saying, anything I 94 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: can do. And it made me think that this is 95 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: like NFL films, purposely a softer touch here. And I 96 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: respected it because I don't think I don't know, maybe 97 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: ten years ago, you get Dan Skipper and in that 98 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: moment crying to the coach and the GM, and I 99 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: think they made a concerted effort to kind of protect 100 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: that guy and what was a really vulnerable moment. It 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: completely pulled at my heart strings. And I was also 102 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, if you are Dan Campbell, if you 103 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: are Brad Holmes, what do you do when you get 104 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: home from work that night or those two. However, many 105 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: days that they're having those conversations because you can see 106 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: how much it wears on Dan Campbell. Even when the 107 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: director of player engagement walked up to him on the 108 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: field and asked him, how you doing, and he responded, 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: you know, if it doesn't hurt, then you got to 110 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: get out of this business. And I'm doing better than 111 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: yesterday or two days ago. But there's so much emotion involved, 112 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: and specifically for a guy like I think Dan Campbell. 113 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody feels this way, but he really became attached, 114 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: I think, and you could see how he would become 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: so attached to the players that he has to say 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: goodbye to, So that is it's definitely an emotional roller 117 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: coaster football, Dan, you know I did. Yeah, And it 118 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: was by the way, Vante Davis, I just want to 119 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: get that right. When Joe Philbin told him he was traded, 120 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: he said, I want to call my grandma. That it 121 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: is so it's so human these moments, and like you're saying, 122 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: like Campbell and the staff have you know, the players 123 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: trust them, and you could you could see that and 124 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: even if they make a decision that they're not going 125 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: to be part of the future. Um, they respect that 126 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: they got this opportunity. So I thought that was you know, 127 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: it's not easy to watch in Campbell. At one point 128 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: I wish I knew who the woman's name was. No, 129 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I didn't write it down right away, right that that 130 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: is That shows again that this isn't just you know whatever, 131 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: you don't even think about it anymore. It's it sticks 132 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: with him and it and it hurts. I was also 133 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: thinking too, just how difficult it must be to be 134 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: a bubble player and a journeyman in general, because watching 135 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Pimpleton take the news, and he took the news so well, 136 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: so it made me wonder was he just like burying 137 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: his disappointment did he expected? Is he that just his 138 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: natural disposition? He was almost like buoyant, he was happy, 139 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 1: and I was like, that was to me, I would 140 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: be way closer to where Dan Skipper was or and 141 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: you've seen it in past years and again notable. You 142 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: did not see it at least in anything. We saw 143 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: guys that would be pissed. Yeah, and you could tell 144 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: there was some bad blood and bad energy over feeling 145 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: like they were not getting UM recognized in the way 146 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: they should. Add you don't sense that at all. Even there, 147 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: there was no contentious moments when they were having these conversations. 148 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: It was kind of a loving, like you said, like 149 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: a softer touch, you could you could sense that for sure. 150 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: But you know, one of the other things that I 151 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: was thinking about, not just with Pimpleton, but also with 152 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: David blow when we saw him at the end of 153 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: the episode warming up with the Vikings, and it just 154 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: looked so lonely because we had seen him mixing it 155 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: up with all the other players in Detroit, and he's 156 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: been there for a minute and he's had some moments, 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he was like a 158 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: total stranger on the field to all of these new teammates. 159 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: And imagine then just starting over, trying to fit in, 160 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: trying to prove yourself when you're a guy that is 161 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: on the bubble like that has to take so much 162 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: confidence and so much perseverance to just continue forward. Nate 163 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: Sudfeld and they show him sitting in that after the 164 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: surprise cut and Blowhard nation, we're all together in this 165 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: and and the best of luck to him. He made 166 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: I think, what was a wise decision for a fresh 167 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: start and being behind Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. Um, but 168 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: you see him, you see Sudfeld and he doesn't even 169 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: have the license gear right, and then you think, like, men, 170 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: these guys have gotten clearly so close through spring through 171 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: training camp. Uh and Sudfields like playing from behind in 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: terms of like being a part of the team. But 173 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: hopefully you know, it's a long season. We we never 174 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: played the game. We don't know what it's like in 175 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: the locker room during the regular season, but I feel 176 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: like any other places, you're like, who's the new guy, 177 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: what's this guy? Exactly exactly? So yeah, that was that 178 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: to me, is what this episode was about, kind of 179 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: this full circle of what we've been tracking all season long, um, 180 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: which is this is a close team that has a 181 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: lot of respect for the coaching staff. And I'm gonna 182 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: save some some of the that conversation for our m 183 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: v P voting, which, by the way, let's not forget 184 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: what's going on today, Grave Digger behind the glass justin Graver, 185 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: the vector voting system. It's all been building to this. 186 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm so nervous. So we're gonna cast our episode five 187 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: m v P votes first, second, and third place votes 188 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: and then we're going to find out definitively the Hard 189 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: Knocks m v P. Give me a little horn there, 190 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: Ah was it? Let's get the lady scream. It's good. 191 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: It's really it's good. It feels good. I like it 192 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: a lot. What else did we like? Should we talk 193 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: about Eminem? Is it time to talk about Eminem? I 194 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: mean I never thought I never really knew that this 195 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: was going to come up. I kept waiting and waiting 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: and waiting for the at the Eminem episode, and here 197 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: we are, so I guess we have to talk about it. 198 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Let me start by I'm gonna take an l on 199 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: this because we can't like pump Dana pump up Zuser 200 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: is the historian hard knocks when we haven't been kind 201 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: of banging the drum about what we haven't seen yet. 202 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: It's become like a tradition to have some type of 203 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: celebrity show up at camp. Kendrick Lamar famously, I think, 204 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: showed up at Rams camp a couple of years ago, 205 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: not the first time either, And so now Marshall Mathers, 206 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: he of eight Mile Road. And you know, like it's 207 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: crazy because I'm a little older than you, Colleen, but 208 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I when Eminem came out like in the late nineties. 209 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: That was it, Like he was he was a force, 210 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: was like a ton of credit to just like street credit. Yeah, 211 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: he was at the center of the universe, not just 212 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: in hip hop, but like in the world, Like he 213 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: was like the biggest star in the world. And then 214 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: I was wonder if some of these guys, like the 215 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: younger guys. I guess he's more just he's kind of 216 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: a legend, hip hop legend. And I know the super 217 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: Bowl probably went a long way in terms of exposing 218 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: him the super Bowl halftime show to an audience and 219 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: a younger audience. Um, But to see him on the field, 220 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: it was just kind of surreal because we you know 221 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: where and Colin, you're a big hip hop fan. I 222 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: don't know where you stand on Eminem. Maybe that will 223 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: be I've loved him when I was younger, and then 224 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: I kind of started to face. The first two albums 225 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: were yeah, pretty special, and then I was kind of out. Um, 226 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: but to see him, like talking to Dan Campbell was weird. 227 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: How about that? Jared Goff Jared Jared Goff our friend 228 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: the man with the clothing line Now in a conversation 229 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: with Eminem, let's listen in. You're not taller than I 230 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: thought you'd beat. I got that quite a bite. You 231 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: can make it out here. It's fun to see you 232 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: absolutely appreciate it. Absolutely Likewise, I get that quite a bit. 233 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: Oh that's rough. People think he's a lot smaller than 234 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: he is. Jared Goff, that electric golf charisma. I have 235 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: to say, like, is this the last time? You know, 236 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: as we're closing the door on another season and on 237 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: the first season of the Hard Knocks podcast, will NFL 238 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Films get another crack at Jared Goff? I mean the 239 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: fourth time? Was it the charm? Or are we going 240 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: for five? I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt it. At this point, 241 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: we've got way more golf than I ever thought we 242 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: would have. So one of my favorite moments with Eminem 243 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: was when Aubrey Pleasant, who is the DV coach for 244 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: the Lions, walked over shook his hand. It's like I'm 245 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: from Flint, Michigan. The handshake hardcore Dappa. We had to 246 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: rewind and count a twelve second hand shank. All right, 247 00:13:48,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: let's let's count it out. Coachs coordinator man, where thank 248 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: you for being shake ever and it was like also 249 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: just kind of a strange, strange handshake too, to be 250 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: that long. It was going up and down. It was. 251 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: It was a weird thing. But you know, I thought 252 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: it was cool because Marshall Mathers is and Eminem that's 253 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: that's a big star. And I think it was a 254 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: nice little thing probably for the players to see somebody. Yeah, 255 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: I loved it. They were geeking out. I think even 256 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Golf said he was like, he's like one of those guys. 257 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: He might be on my list of likely ship. Who's 258 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: on your list of holy ship. There's a lot of people. 259 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: There's somebody that stands out. Brett Goldstein from he plays 260 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: Roy Kent on Ted Lasso. That's I mean, you just 261 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: anybody in the world. He's on the list. Goldstein is on. 262 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I love him. I love him. Yeah. John knows all 263 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I'm not overly familiar with the show, 264 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: but I was not. I was not. Um you asked, 265 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: delivered interesting? Alright, Brett Goldsteins, Um, alright, So Eminem he 266 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: makes his appearance. Uh. And you know one thing another 267 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: thing that we talked about. We were waiting. We're waiting 268 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: for the segment when the players go to visit Detroit, 269 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: and you know what are we what were we asking for? 270 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: All season? I haven't written down a visit downtown that 271 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: pays homage to the Detroit music scene soul, blues, hip hop, garage, rock, 272 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: and then here in big caps because it was a 273 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: big deal to you. Cars need cars, I needed more cars. 274 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: Didn't get any. I got a couple of guys like 275 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: throwing tires around. That's it. But we got we got 276 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: a trip to the Art Museum for um U mon 277 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: st Brown. We also got this was wild uh Rodrigo, 278 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: who by the way, is going to be the starting 279 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: linebacker for the lines. I believe he is at a 280 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: cowboys store. Um, I don't know what. I didn't know 281 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: Detroit has Cowboys stores. I guess they're everywhere. They called 282 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys Store, Western shop called the Cowboys Store. I 283 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: have no idea. I am from New York. Um. But anyway, 284 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: his quads in those jeans um and the hat and 285 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: the boots, it looked like he was wearing a Halloween costume. 286 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: It was really really funny that entire scene. Also the 287 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: fact that Rodrigo is the second most requested jersey is 288 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: that what we heard talk about that again. The when 289 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: we try to figure out how the lines are gonna 290 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: do this season, and whenever you watch Hard Knocks you're 291 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: trying to you always get talked into that team being 292 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: way better when you hear something like that, and and 293 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: I loved it. I even liked the trip to the 294 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys store because I thought it was a nice button 295 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: on the Rodrigo story. I learned about boots, Ostrich boots, 296 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: no idea like that was Ostrich boots. Do you know 297 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: you don't I have Ostrich boots I bought my freshman 298 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: year of college at the University of Texasy. Do you 299 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: have multiple pairs of boots? I have two pairs of boots, 300 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: but the other one just regularly. You don't want to 301 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: know about the other leather. I don't know regular. Yeah, 302 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys stores in Texas, got it. You don't have 303 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: to tell me that there's Cowboys stores in Texas. Nashville. 304 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: One of the biggest ones is called Justin's Boot Company. 305 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: So well, you know, you're bringing everything back to the 306 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: Justin Cowboy things. But up in Detroit didn't know that 307 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: that was gonna be the way. But no, what my 308 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: point being that Rodrigo having the number two selling jersey. One. 309 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it's such a great um 310 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: tribute to Lions fans. You're a way into hard knocks 311 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: and I hope you guys are listening to the show. 312 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: That'd be a nice little connection. And two that you 313 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: know the line stf a long way to go up. 314 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: Rodrigo has the number two selling jersey. Well, he's very 315 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: popular right now, and he's like the franchise as we 316 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: hit on though, he has this like great genial like 317 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: he's easy to root. They always say, it's like you 318 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: have an open face like you you are someone who 319 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: looks like a good person, endearing, charming like and he 320 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: has this like lightness, this brightness about him. Yes, so um, 321 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: you know someone that goes you know, we'll go nameless. 322 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: That was watching the show with us today. It wasn't me, 323 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: it was not you. You're a married woman, but was 324 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: charmed by the man on a different level. And I said, listen, 325 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: that's not about me. That's a professional environment. It's a 326 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: professional environment. Okay, it doesn't unless it involves Mike McCarthy, 327 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: z addie, I don't talk about that stuff. All right, 328 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and when we come back. We 329 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: are going to hear the leaf Schreber quote in the week. Yes, uh, 330 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: that's not from Leave Schreiber. We're going to do our 331 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: episode m VP voting. We are going to get our 332 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: final m v P results for who is the Hard 333 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Knocks m v P and then maybe a little surprise 334 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: is at the end. We'll be right back. All right, 335 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: welcome back. We are in the home stretch now the 336 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Podcast, and what a ride it's been, Connie. 337 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: One of our favorite aspects of the show has been 338 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: the Leev Schreiber, the narrator of course of Hard Knocks 339 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: Quote of the Week. And we don't have access to 340 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: Leev Schreiber's vocals, he's busy. But what do we do 341 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: have access to is Jason Zumwalt, new voice of the 342 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. Uh. Long time close friend of mine, 343 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: one time roommate in the Hollywood Hills. There's a lot 344 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: of stories, man Zumwalt. Uh, but he has done great 345 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: work all season. We thank j for it. Now we 346 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: gave him. We're going out with a real challenge with 347 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: the Schreiber quote in the week, because the one that 348 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: we're giving him this week includes um Uh, I don't 349 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: know how to put this automnopia atamnopeia, thank you that 350 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: you do not typically here in the history of Hard 351 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Knocks from sh Eira. So again, Jason isn't hearing this 352 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: and then doing an impersonation. He's just getting the text. 353 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: So I told him to work shopping, feel the room, 354 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: feel out the vibe. And here's what he came back with. Today, 355 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: Eminem is going for. He's providing lunch for the lions. Today. 356 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Eminem is going for He's providing lunch for the lions. Today. 357 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: Eminem is going for He's providing lunch for the lions. 358 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Then I said, I said, Jay, you know he said 359 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: the first batch, And I said, Jay, I want you 360 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: to really explore the space, and um, don't this is 361 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: a trust tree. You just like let it all out, 362 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: whatever is left, whatever, whatever autom epi autamanopee has left 363 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: inside your body, release it. On this last episode, the 364 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: finale of the Hard Knocks podcast, let's listen in. Today, 365 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Eminem is going for. God no, he's providing lunch for 366 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: the lions. It's definitely not about food. Today. Eminem is 367 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: going for. He's providing lunch for the lions today, eminem 368 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: is going for he's providing lunch for the Lions. Oh 369 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: my god, I hold on a second. The last two 370 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: it was like a dragon. Okay, um, wow, he is 371 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: an incredible voice talent. You know what's gonna happen next year? 372 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: We're doing this podcast next year, and I hope we are. 373 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: It's gonna be j that's on HBO's Hard Knocks, and 374 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Live Shriver or doing the voice here 375 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: right at this rate, we know people are listening. Wow. 376 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I love that he really like he went in pretty 377 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: hard on the but then like really just brought it 378 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: right back light And I don't even want it. I 379 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: don't think I can say it anymore. I think that 380 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: we just killed it for me forever. So anyway, all right, 381 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: let's get to it. Let's do it, Okay, anything else 382 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: that we wanted to get in there before we get 383 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: to the m v P voting for episode five. The 384 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: only thing is I thought the Van Go room was 385 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: really cool. I know you mentioned it with the AmAm 386 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: ross At Brown and his family and his mom is German, 387 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: so she was, yeah, let's listen to some German that's language. 388 00:22:50,119 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Is wild boy from Boston, Come on Translate the good, 389 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: great job man. He thinks on his feet. He's an 390 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: improv man. Um. Yes, German is um not necessarily one 391 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: of the love languages. I would say it's a little 392 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: bit more abrasive to a little Yeah, like any time 393 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I've been in a German airport, if I'm like flying 394 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: through like the German, the German police always like frightened me. Yeah, okay, 395 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I guess all right. Now I want to get out Craig. 396 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Craig Reynolds, by the way, making the team. Is he 397 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: in your Okay? Good? So I want to talk about 398 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: Craig Reynolds. What a great story Reynolds. We we talked 399 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: about it. His older brother in prison has never seen 400 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: him play. He makes the team as the final running back, 401 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: and I thought that was really cool, and I thought that, 402 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's a dude that you could tell that's 403 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: not an act. With Dan Campbell, they're looking for a 404 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: certain type of player because when they're doing the final 405 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: evaluation and they're trying to decide between him and the 406 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: other running back, and they're they're looking for a certain 407 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: type of player. And I thought that was just interesting. 408 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: So good for Craig Reynolds making the team. Um Chase 409 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: Lucas the other one, rookie seventh rounder out of a 410 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: s U. He famously, at least in our world here 411 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: dropped an interception in the preseason opener, and I just 412 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: got speaking of like hip hop giants. I kept on 413 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: getting a vibe of like the young college dropout Kanye, 414 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: where he's young, but he's sprashed in competent but also 415 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: doubts himself a lot, keeps on going up to the 416 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: coach and asking do you think you do? How do 417 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: you think I'm doing? And then they they'll come up 418 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: to the coach later in the day and says, hey, 419 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be great. Like that's very like 420 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: he's trying very hard, and maybe he can say less 421 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: and that would probably help him a little bit. But 422 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: I did find it, like so endearing when they showed 423 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: the shots of him sitting on the field reflecting after 424 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: their scrimmage, and you could see him kind of taking 425 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: it all in and really just like he was crying 426 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: at one point just because he was so happy to 427 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: be there. And that's when you can see just how 428 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: how much this means. These opportunities mean. Two players like 429 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: Chase Lucas. Very cool, very cool. All right, let's now 430 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: get into our episode MVP voting. Uh do you want 431 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: to get going this time? So third place? We've already 432 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: talked about him. UM can an honorable mention first? Yeah, 433 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: and again this is the vector voting system, so it's 434 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: a weighted system, and the votes today for this episode 435 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: could determine who is. And there's no first second in 436 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: place for Hard Knocks MVP. It's just one. It's just 437 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: the one. But I do want to give a shout out, 438 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: great job always NFL Films with the music that they 439 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: choose for this show, and they did an excellent job 440 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: with some of the Motown classics, and you definitely got 441 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: that vibe of the city through the music. And you 442 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: and I were vibing out hard to someday we'll be together. 443 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: Ross and the Supremes listening to in the studio before 444 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: we start, it starts like that's If by Janet Jackson 445 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: the sample, So we're music, We're into the music. Honorable 446 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: mention NFL Films Music Department. Yeah, I mean really, they 447 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: are the true m v p s and NFL Films 448 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: is the m v P of all of this. UM 449 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: but my third place vote goes to Khalil Pimpleton, and 450 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: you know what, like it kind of tracks because so 451 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: many of my votes are for people that are no 452 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: longer with the or never have been with the Lions. 453 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Are you tabulating back there? Justin I hope he is 454 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: so Pempleton just following him, uh, you know, he gets 455 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: cut and then he goes to the Giants and he 456 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: talks about he kind of showed a little bit more 457 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: emotion and realness when he was doing his workout with 458 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: the with the Giants, and you could tell like he 459 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: he really really knew that that could be the end, 460 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: and so it was like a little bit of a 461 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: different side of him. I felt like I got pimp 462 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: to the place vote. You know, he kind of won 463 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: me over when we first met him, and he was 464 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: just the juggler and he was and his his personality 465 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't quite connect with me right away. But the more 466 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: we learned about him, especially the way he carried himself 467 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: after he got cut, um really just you know, just 468 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: a guy that was still upbeat despite this, you know, 469 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: terrible setback in his career. And then by the time 470 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: they show him at the Giants training camp, which I 471 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: love that it takes us there as well, training camp 472 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: and a private workout, and he drops the first couple 473 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: of balls and it's like, come on, dude, we're rooting 474 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: for you. So then when he turns it on and 475 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: then gets the contract to be on the practice squad, 476 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: you know him reaching out and calling his family and 477 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: you see that, um uh, just nice. It was nice. 478 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: It was happy for him, It really was. He clearly 479 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: has a strong support group and that's what these bubble 480 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: players really neat when he calls his family, calls his 481 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: former coaches and you can hear yeah, and like you, 482 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: it kind of backs up what you think about him. 483 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Like you, you think that you kind of have this 484 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: guy figured out, like his character, and then when you 485 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: see the people that are there for him in his 486 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: low moments, then you kind of know that he is 487 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: a good person. That's also, um something in Hard Knocks 488 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't really a part of the show ten years 489 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: ago that now is a big part of the show. 490 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Face timing, Yeah, and you get to see not just you. 491 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: You don't hear the mother, the loved one on the 492 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: other end of the line. You actually see them, and 493 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: it's just cool. It's like a nice little personal touch. 494 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: It feels real because it is alright, second place, your 495 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: second place, m v P episode five, second place, going 496 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: to forty four starting linebacker. Now we got rodfre you go. 497 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I am. I will say I'm a little 498 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: worried about him walking into the stadium with those genes 499 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: and his squads, like he might not make it. I 500 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: hope there's like a good amount of spandex in there. 501 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: But he definitely won me over, and I feel like 502 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: he is just such a fun, positive storyline and vibe 503 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: in this whole season. He was deserving to get the 504 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: leaves the facility and go somewhere fun and does to 505 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Goes to the Cowboys Store, which is in Detroit, 506 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: because there are a ton of cowboys there probably are, 507 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of rural areas in Michigan. I'm 508 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: sure cowboys are rampant there. So we're just gonna back off. 509 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: Let us know, don't how about this. We already took 510 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: the l I'm sure there are a ton of cowboys 511 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: in Michigan. Okay, Honestly, everyone's like, how do we? God? 512 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: I really like him and I loved your comment about 513 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: him having an open face and and uh, good dude, 514 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: not my vote though, I want to get my second 515 00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: place vote to Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator 516 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: is going to be a head coach in our league. 517 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: I am certain of it. In fact, last time I 518 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: felt this way. It seems crazy now, but it was 519 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: the Marvin Lewis Um Bengals and their coordinator was a 520 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: man uh that later you know, didn't have such great 521 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: luck Hugh Jackson with the Cleveland Browns, But I remember 522 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: in that season being like, Wow, he connects with the players, 523 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: the way he carries himself. It just seems I could 524 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: do that that that's in his plans. And maybe in 525 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson's case, maybe he had already been with the Raiders. 526 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't remember for sure. But here we 527 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: are now, and I think Glenn is one big step 528 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: up from this defense away from getting interviews in January, 529 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting when he's the d 530 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: C right and that moment when Dan Campbell is trying 531 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: to figure out what to do with the last running 532 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: back spot, he confers we Glenn and they talk and 533 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: it's a collaborative effort between the two, and Glenn says 534 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: that I'm a Reynolds fan, Craig Reynolds. Craig Reynolds makes 535 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: the team. So it's like kind of like a JFK 536 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: and RFK talking at the Oval office type. And Glenn, 537 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: I think, just the way he's carried himself, he just 538 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: seems like a guy that you want as the leader 539 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: of men and a great coach. I thought it was 540 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: really fascinating to watch the coaches try and figure out 541 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: how they were going to cut down their own personal 542 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: lists to kind of present to Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes, 543 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: because we've got a couple we got a couple of 544 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: little glimpses of that of the coaches alone without like 545 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: the big guns in there, and the guys telling Deuce like, 546 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: come on, you're in front of Dan and Brad, what 547 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Like So that that I thought 548 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: was interesting. But Aaron Glenn, just in general, you can 549 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: tell that he's not trying too hard. He's not putting 550 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: on any type of act like that is just exactly 551 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: who he is and his players love him. And you know, 552 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: the NFL does not have a great record with hiring 553 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: black head coaches. Aaron Glenn is a guy that absolutely 554 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: feels like he should be taken seriously when those interview 555 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: processes begin. But they first have to deliver that season 556 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: that we hope they're going to have, which is improvement 557 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: and the defense getting better. Uh, And then I think 558 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: Glenn definitely deserves consideration for the big chair your first 559 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: place vote. And now now it's getting down to the 560 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: nitty gritty. This carries a lot of weight. It does, 561 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: And that's why I actually switched my my votes around 562 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: a little bit right before this, because this is the 563 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: final one and it could really just like over the edge, 564 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: just like when it says, all right, who's who from 565 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: your position group is getting cut? You can't do this 566 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: willy nilly. There are people's lives on the line right now. 567 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: Who is the most valuable person in this entire series? 568 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: Who could this series? Who would sink this series if 569 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: they weren't on it? Jared Goff, I thought you said 570 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: who sinks the series on it? Well, yeah, that could 571 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: work too. This series does not work nearly as well. 572 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: I know where you're going with this. Go ahead without 573 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: this one man. I like it his man, his name 574 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: not his Man. Third podcast together Today, My God, oh 575 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: you were. You were building up so well, it's not 576 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: too late. I was ahead. Okay, here we go, and 577 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: this man, this all stays in the show. His name 578 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: is Dan name, and let me tell you why, because 579 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: he really, really, really he got me with the final 580 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: line of the episode. And I'm scribbling right now because 581 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: I had Colleen wolf his first place. Yeah, you gotta 582 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: take that out now, the last line in the entire episode. 583 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite Hard Knocks moments ever. 584 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: And before we play it, I want everyone to know 585 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: I asked just into leave everything in because just the 586 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: emotion on this man's face. And I know this is 587 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: an audio medium, but you need to understand. He gets 588 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: asked the pretty simple what you expect a documentary filmmaker 589 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: to ask at the end of a training camp, and 590 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: instead of just saying the first thing comes to his mind, 591 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: you could see the world, like the universe flashed before 592 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: his face and he gets emotional. Let's listen and the 593 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: last one Detroit Lions will um and they do a 594 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: great job here. They get tight on his face and 595 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: you could see he's searching for the world. Oh deep size. 596 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: This man cares and he looks like he's getting choked 597 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 1: up while he's sitting there because I think he's thinking 598 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: of the options and maybe he doesn't like any of them. 599 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: It's all overwhelming, but he still hasn't answered. But yet, 600 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: this is all how it happened. Danny, you're there. I 601 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: think he's breathing. Still. Oh that's good, but still nothing. 602 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: This is where I would kick his chair, like, hey, um, 603 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here. We have a heart 604 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: out with that. Okay, all right, so now, okay, there's 605 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: more Detroit lines. Will be the team that can? And 606 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: will the team that can? And you could say, after 607 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: getting a sixty second window to think of what to say, 608 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: that you may say that's underwhelming, But no, that's real 609 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: because he believes it. And that's why he's also my 610 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: first place vote for this episode. Yes, and I think 611 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: that might take some of the drama out, because god, 612 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: what would we be doing wrong? But let's see where 613 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: the vector voting comes down? Third, second, first place? Where 614 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: did we come down? It is time to announce the 615 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: hard Knocks m v P for justin you've done the tabulations, 616 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: it is time. There was also a medieval jousting in Detroit. 617 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: It's still going on. That's really true, alright. In third 618 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: place with thirty points in the vector voting, Deuce Staley 619 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: what deserves it. I mean, he backed it up. He 620 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: was so good and so many of these episodes. I'm 621 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: very happy he placed. He's on the metal stand because 622 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: another guy. If I'm gonna throw roses a the feet 623 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: of Aaron Glenn do Staley also opened some eyes, I 624 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: hope in the league because he's another guy that has passion, 625 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: He's fun to be around, and he knows how to 626 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: coach ball and connect with people. So second place with 627 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: thirty seven points, Rodrigo look at him and again, you know, 628 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: I think Rodrigo absolutely the cornerstone of this show, this 629 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: very special series Hard Knocks going back to two thousand one, 630 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: is the stories of these underdogs, and Rodrigo is absolutely 631 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: one of them. And we've learned so much about him 632 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: and his family and his journey and how great he played. 633 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So the trips to the Cowboys Store, I 634 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: feel like was in a way earned. And I'm not 635 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: saying it's as high in honor as being second place 636 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: in the hard MPP voting, but it's a pretty nice 637 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: one too. Yeah. I think that he endeared himself to 638 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: not only his teammates, but too clearly all of the 639 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: fans who won his jersey. And I just remember that episode. 640 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: Where was it Kelvin Shepherd, who's the linebackers coach? I 641 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: think so who was kind of laying into all of 642 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: the other linebackers and being like, this guy is beating you. 643 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: Who even is this guy? And it was like, oh 644 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: my god, lay all Frederigo. He's he's a he's an 645 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: urban cowboy, and he's the starting linebacker for the Detroit 646 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: Lions and he is our second place m v P. 647 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: That is awesome, alright, So that leaves us with just 648 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: one more name. Well, I think we did it. I 649 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: think we did it. Is now time, ladies and gentlemen. 650 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: The two thousand Hard Knocks m v P and a 651 00:38:53,000 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: runaway landslide is Dan Campbell with three points. It was 652 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: actually mathematically impossible for Dan Campbell to not win going 653 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: into this. Absolutely that again, we nailed this. And I 654 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: think it's a credit to the vector voting system that 655 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: this all played out. I think the way it should 656 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: have played out. I'm happy with it. Obviously, Campbell was 657 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: the star, is one of the great stars in the 658 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: history of this show well earned. And I think even 659 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: though this is the first year of the vector voting system, 660 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: ninety three points is gonna be it's gonna be like Wilt. 661 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very difficult for anyone to 662 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: be that biggest star um the way he was in 663 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: this show. I don't know how anyone could even touch that. 664 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: You can't, no one will even come close. Dan Campbell 665 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: is a character. He is like just a fountain of 666 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: youth in terms of quotes. They just like keep coming 667 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: and I love it. I love all of it. I'm 668 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 1: buying everything that Dan Campbell is selling. And a special 669 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: thank you to Graver who tracked this and probably did 670 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: the math right. We're not gonna double check. I just zoom. 671 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: You nailed it. So thanks. Appreciate your help, not just uh, 672 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: not just today, but the entire run of the Hard 673 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: Knocks podcast, because I think we're coming to the end though. 674 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: I think any final thoughts you want to share, you know, 675 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: I would like a grit hat um because we got 676 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks shirts and those are lovely shirts, thank you, 677 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: But I think there was one other thing. Sure, we 678 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: got the merch, we got the tabulations, but there was 679 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: one more thing. I can't was it? It was something? 680 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't a car, was it? Wait a second, Sean Kelly, 681 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: our producer, walking Yeah, pizza. Oh my god, look at 682 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: that beautiful. Get a shot of that pizza and we 683 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: got we got the There you go, you got that. 684 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: We look at this looks delightful, believable. I've never had 685 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: Detroit style pizza. What I'm a pizza snob, I I 686 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: don't know. But it looks good. It's not like deep 687 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: it's not quite deep dish, but it looks like it's 688 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: got some sauce um on top of the cheese, which 689 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: is different. It's got it. It's got. It's a little thicker, 690 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: but it's not casserole Chicago deep dis style. Alright, so 691 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna enjoy Colleen myself, Sean Kelly, Justin Graver, our producer. 692 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: Thank you again to everyone for following along with this 693 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: um show and this podcast. And remember if you like 694 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: Colleen and I doing podcast together, there's more. There's more. 695 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: The Power Rankings podcast is going all season. Uh wherever 696 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, please subscribe, star leave comments. Shout 697 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: out to Buddy's Pizza in Detroit. Detroit is shipped from Detroit. What, 698 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, heat it up in the cafe here upstairs. 699 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: John Kelly's about to drop it on the floor. All 700 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: right again, We're going to now eat Detroit style pizza. 701 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: Thank you to the Droit by an m v P. 702 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell for a memorable season. Can't wait for next 703 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: summer and another season of the greatest sports documentary that 704 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: has ever existed. Until then, we love the NFL films. 705 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you have one butt, cheek and 706 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: three toes. We're with you. We'll take you later. Give 707 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: me this all the pizza.