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Speaker 3: Welcome into Talking Cowboys here on a Tuesday this offseason.
Speaker 3: And apparently if you climb Mount Kilimanjarrow or do something
Speaker 3: like that, you can talk to everybody on your way
Speaker 3: in the building, even if you're running behind.
Speaker 4: It'd be like this, you look slimmer.
Speaker 5: I lost twelve pounds.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, oh my goodness, yeah, I
Speaker 4: lost twelve pounds.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It feels like walks came to.
Speaker 3: The building or like like during the mount killing the
Speaker 3: jar climb or.
Speaker 5: The whole thing. Man, ten days, twelve pounds, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: It was a lot.
Speaker 3: It was a lot. It looked like a lot. Whenever
Speaker 3: you sent the the video from the top and one
Speaker 3: you were an emotional wreck, which I understand that's unbelievable
Speaker 3: of a feat. But the the thing that I picked
Speaker 3: up on was that your dreads were frozzen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was all frozen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were moving your head and it felt like
Speaker 3: they were just cracking going on.
Speaker 6: I honestly, like Scott was just asking me about that,
Speaker 6: I didn't think, well, my fingers felt it. Honestly, my
Speaker 6: fingers are still numb, so I'm hoping that feeling goes
Speaker 6: away sooner than later. Yeah, it just feels like just
Speaker 6: crazy pressure on their fingertips.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I didn't think about that part.
Speaker 6: Once you get up to that point, like you're not
Speaker 6: you're cold, but you're not thinking about the cold.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: You gotta you can't think about them.
Speaker 6: No, you're literally, at least for me, I can only
Speaker 6: speak for me. I'm looking at the heels of the
Speaker 6: person in front of me like that's for hours. I
Speaker 6: was just like you take a step, I take a step,
Speaker 6: You take a step like that's literally where my mind was,
Speaker 6: and then just trying to.
Speaker 5: Battle all the crap that goes through your head at
Speaker 5: that time.
Speaker 3: In terms of a physical feat, is that the coolest
Speaker 3: thing you've ever done? Yes?
Speaker 6: And yes, physically yes, but it wasn't. The physical wasn't the.
Speaker 5: Most challenging aspects. It was the mental.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like physically it was challenging. It was demanding going down.
Speaker 6: By the time we went down, my legs were toast
Speaker 6: like they were gone, like non existent at all.
Speaker 5: Breathing good, No, not at all breathing.
Speaker 4: That was the thing we talked about. I was like,
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be the biggest challenge there was it.
Speaker 5: It was, Yes, for me, it was.
Speaker 6: And that played a big part in to my mental
Speaker 6: challenges because I'm not as a at least as a
Speaker 6: football athlete. You're not used to sustain high you know,
Speaker 6: heart rate, yeah, you know, you know, like so endurance athletes,
Speaker 6: people who run your marathons a lot of stuff, like
Speaker 6: they're used to their stuff kind of staying up there. Mentally,
Speaker 6: I wasn't like I just like one five you know
Speaker 6: heart rate for me, like, that's that's that's humping. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, that's humping. That's like getting off sleds or
Speaker 6: running some sprints and then you take a break. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, You let your heart rate come
Speaker 6: down when you're hiking for six to you know, eight
Speaker 6: hours straight and your.
Speaker 5: Heart rate stays up there. Yeah, just kind of just
Speaker 5: kind of plays a little bit on you, just a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, congratulations, congratulations to you. You look like a fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you've been John so long. He has three babies.
Speaker 7: Heard.
Speaker 3: This is the right show for everybody that's watching and
Speaker 3: list the kitchen. This is the right, right show. Isaiah's
Speaker 3: back in the building. We've got Nick Harris, myself, John
Speaker 3: Manchoda will be back next week. Uh but yeah, you
Speaker 3: you climbed Mount Killiman Jarrow. I climbed Mount kill a
Speaker 3: dad Jarrow. It's been great. It's been good. Babies are
Speaker 3: doing good, everybody's healthy, MoMA's recovering. Uh where. Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: kind of getting back to normal for a little bit
Speaker 3: until they come home. So that's kind of the the
Speaker 3: big waiting game now. So us are healthy good, they've
Speaker 3: they've been healthy, and they've been great. Our our medical
Speaker 3: staff is the best in the world. I would put
Speaker 3: them up against anybody. But tell tell us about the
Speaker 3: outside of that before we get into football. It's the
Speaker 3: off season. I know everybody on YouTube is gonna say
Speaker 3: talk football. We will, I promise, Yeah, but tell me
Speaker 3: about the outside stuff. Because it wasn't just climbing a mountain.
Speaker 6: They went over there, and honestly, it is like my
Speaker 6: mind didn't get wrapped around the climbing aspect until we
Speaker 6: were done with the actual big like the purpose purpose work,
Speaker 6: and that was the reason why I joined up. It
Speaker 6: was a Chris Long Foundation, So I know, Cowboys Nation
Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily want to hear Chris Long name, but he
Speaker 6: does some amazing work out there, and so it's a
Speaker 6: Chris Long Chris Long Foundation and the Water Boys Initiative,
Speaker 6: And what they've been doing for the past ten years
Speaker 6: is they've been going to Tanzania primarily and digging water
Speaker 6: wells for some of the communities out there, so community schools,
Speaker 6: super remote locations, and these are people who have literally
Speaker 6: no water, like literal no water. I have a lot
Speaker 6: of content I'm gonna eventually show and put it together
Speaker 6: the right way to tell a story. But you know,
Speaker 6: we went to one village particularly, and it is about
Speaker 6: three miles from the village. We went to the village
Speaker 6: and they were super happy to see us, hundreds of kids,
Speaker 6: you know, other people in the village, and then we
Speaker 6: drove about a mile and a half two miles away,
Speaker 6: and then we hiked about another mile down until like
Speaker 6: this I don't even know what you want to call it.
Speaker 6: It was like a I don't know. He just looked
Speaker 6: like a rock face at the bottom of a hill,
Speaker 6: and the guy wanted to. One of the elders in
Speaker 6: the village started digging a hole pretty much in the dirt.
Speaker 6: Luckily it had rained probably you know, the day before
Speaker 6: and that day earlier that day, he started digging a
Speaker 6: hole and then all of the water started like seeping
Speaker 6: up through the dirt, and like that was their water
Speaker 6: source prior to the Chris Long Foundation coming in and
Speaker 6: providing a water well for them, and now they have
Speaker 6: sustainable water, solar panel, actual well that was the hole
Speaker 6: was borrowed probably about it I think one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty meters down before they hit sustainable water, like actually
Speaker 6: a good water source. And then they have the solar
Speaker 6: panel when that power is it, and then they have
Speaker 6: an actual tank system that filt trades sit and.
Speaker 5: All that jazz.
Speaker 6: So they have about four thousand liters per hour that
Speaker 6: they have access to. Now that's awesome compared to compared
Speaker 6: to they were dealing with. And you could see buffalo prints,
Speaker 6: bamboo print, baboon prints and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: Around where they were trying to source this water and
Speaker 6: this is not clean water. Sure if they even confined water,
Speaker 6: the water is not clean and it's definitely not a
Speaker 6: safe environment. Kids were not allowed to really remain in school.
Speaker 6: I mean, they're trying to do school, but it's like, hey,
Speaker 6: we need water not only for sanitation and you know, bathrooms,
Speaker 6: but also to drink. And so they were spending you know,
Speaker 6: six seven hours a day going trying to find a
Speaker 6: water source, find a water source, not even not even
Speaker 6: just retain it, but find water. So now all those
Speaker 6: hours are being poured back into those communities and to
Speaker 6: those kids and those villages and those those those moms,
Speaker 6: because those are they're primarily the ones that go out
Speaker 6: and do it. Life totally, life changing, perspective changing. Just
Speaker 6: it's unfathomable the conditions that people are living in outside
Speaker 6: of what we're accustomed to.
Speaker 5: But it was awesome to.
Speaker 6: Be able to go see what the previous co hurts,
Speaker 6: like this year's co hurt, you know, twenty twenty four
Speaker 6: Conquering Keilly class that I was a part of. Next
Speaker 6: year's class, we'll be able to go see the water
Speaker 6: wheels that we were able to generate funds for and
Speaker 6: see the fruition of that. So thank you to anybody
Speaker 6: who supported prayed all that jazz. Your money literally is
Speaker 6: impacting thousands down there.
Speaker 5: And I have.
Speaker 6: Pictures galore, videos galore of like just the smiles on
Speaker 6: their faces and celebrations of just water, like like they
Speaker 6: can literally go as simple just go and they can
Speaker 6: turn on a tap now and get water.
Speaker 5: One tap.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about like all the different we can
Speaker 6: walk down this hallway and get water from so many
Speaker 6: different sources. They have one tap that they're beyond grateful
Speaker 6: for that they can now access for everything agriculture, bathrooms,
Speaker 6: and beyond everything that you can imagine that you use
Speaker 6: water for. So it's it's definitely mind mind blowing, eye opening.
Speaker 6: Super happy to have been a part of it. I'm
Speaker 6: super happy to be a part of it going forward.
Speaker 6: I'm definitely I'm not done trying to help with that
Speaker 6: organization and the work that they're doing. But to see
Speaker 6: the impact is one thing. You know, you hear the stories,
Speaker 6: you see that you're here needs. You know, people compare
Speaker 6: it to situations here in the US, and yes, we
Speaker 6: have our issues, but it's not even Yeah, it's not
Speaker 6: even in the same ballpark.
Speaker 4: Well, we're proud of you, Bud.
Speaker 3: Pretty such job throughout the time out there, and man,
Speaker 3: can't wait to see the extra content and the extra
Speaker 3: stories that you're gonna put out there as well. Well,
Speaker 3: you haven't missed anything. I mean, the Cowboys haven't done anything,
Speaker 3: right Nick, I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think when the last time was Mike
Speaker 4: Zimmer hired whenever the last time year? Okay, I couldn't
Speaker 4: even last whatever you had come in. But yeah, it's
Speaker 4: just been draft and getting ready for free agents combine.
Speaker 3: I watched the kind of jombine I was kind of joking.
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I know, I again, I did not
Speaker 4: know when Isaiah left. Like it felt like it's been forever.
Speaker 5: News and notes I feel like is pretty loaded this week.
Speaker 3: I mean, you spent Indie. Last week in Indy, had
Speaker 3: the NFL combine, But then you've got these reports about
Speaker 3: Tyron Smith coming out, and there's a number of different
Speaker 3: elements of how this offseason could be attacked over the
Speaker 3: next really week and a half that we're going to
Speaker 3: see what direction this thing's gonna go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, free agency starting here in about eight days. I
Speaker 4: think we're going to get a pretty good idea of
Speaker 4: what the off season strategy is here in about six days.
Speaker 4: Whenever that open, that's hampering period starts, and that's when
Speaker 4: you can kind of see all the headlines flying off.
Speaker 4: So by this show next week, we'll have some big
Speaker 4: stuff to talk about, I feel like. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones talked about being all in at the Senior
Speaker 4: Bowl and he was trying to rework the definition of
Speaker 4: what all in actually means whenever. We kind of circle
Speaker 4: back on that at the Combine last week. So I
Speaker 4: would not I would not expect anything different than what
Speaker 4: the off season has given the Cowboys in recent times. Now,
Speaker 4: last year, you look at the off season and they
Speaker 4: go acquire Stefan Gilmore, they go acquire Brandon Cooks. Can
Speaker 4: they make a move like that this offseason, Yeah, it
Speaker 4: would not surprise me. I don't think though, when people
Speaker 4: here all in and they take that for their own definition,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't think that's going and signing one of the best,
Speaker 4: you know, a free agent linebackers and bringing in one
Speaker 4: of the best free agent running backs. Now granted, this
Speaker 4: is the best free agent running that class probably in
Speaker 4: NFL history. Yeah, but I don't think it's necessarily signing
Speaker 4: those guys at the top of the position. Nothing can
Speaker 4: really get done free agency wise until this Dak Prescott
Speaker 4: extension happens because you don't know what you're working with
Speaker 4: on the cap. And Dak talked about it yesterday. He
Speaker 4: said he feels confident that it can get done. He's like,
Speaker 4: it needs to get done because it helps the team
Speaker 4: and helps the numbers and it helps us, you know,
Speaker 4: build a better team. But you know, Jerry Jones said
Speaker 4: last week that if it doesn't get done, they have
Speaker 4: a way to work around it. So we'll see. I
Speaker 4: think an extension gets done this week and they'll have
Speaker 4: a little bit more cap room to work with in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. But from the conversations I've had, no
Speaker 4: one really understands what that what the off season could
Speaker 4: look like until that number is finalized and what it is.
Speaker 3: What would that number look like in your eyes?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's really hard to see what it
Speaker 3: would look like because there's so much leverage on Dak standpoint.
Speaker 3: I mean, he has all the leverage outside of wanting
Speaker 3: to be here longer and wanting to be paid significantly
Speaker 3: as well, so there's there's leverage there. I I don't
Speaker 3: know what that number would end up looking like.
Speaker 5: I mean, my perspective's changing. It's that I know.
Speaker 6: It's weird, right, my perspective's changing in regards to because
Speaker 6: it feel.
Speaker 3: Like you your perspective never changed.
Speaker 5: I know, life happened.
Speaker 3: You go, you go overseas and you come back and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know how to change your mind.
Speaker 4: Our sex all of a sudden important.
Speaker 6: I honestly, I honestly believe that outside interior more impressive
Speaker 6: than interior.
Speaker 8: When you get on a plane for over eighteen hours,
Speaker 8: you start thinking that, doesn't hear Bamber?
Speaker 5: That flight home was like thirty six hours?
Speaker 3: It was a huh Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was done.
Speaker 6: I don't want to say six hours. I don't want
Speaker 6: to see another airplane. Yeah, and I was in I
Speaker 6: was not in business class.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Beemer doesn't know what that's like. Yeah, yet, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: happening and we had a great time.
Speaker 3: I ended up in at least somehow.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: I say that because the conversation obviously for a long time,
Speaker 6: and it's going to continue all the way into if
Speaker 6: something happens has been that Dak has all the leverage,
Speaker 6: and he has a ton of leverage. I will hesitate
Speaker 6: to say all because I truly believe.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 6: Listen, I believe that mister Jones in the front office
Speaker 6: are all in on Dak. When I say all in,
Speaker 6: I mean like they don't feel as if they have
Speaker 6: better options. I'll say that, right, And yeah, when you
Speaker 6: don't feel like you have better options, you obviously have
Speaker 6: to do things, you know, to.
Speaker 5: Work around that.
Speaker 6: I don't think that they feel as if they have
Speaker 6: to give him like a crazy extension. I really, I'm
Speaker 6: starting to feel like they don't get I don't get
Speaker 6: the sense that they have that sense of urgency.
Speaker 5: I do believe that they want to get that done.
Speaker 6: I believe that they want to move things around, But
Speaker 6: I don't think that they feel like they have to
Speaker 6: and and I think that they're maybe and this is
Speaker 6: just my perspective, of course, right, I believe that they
Speaker 6: might get CD done before.
Speaker 3: Dak if there wasn't a fifty nine million dollar cap
Speaker 3: hit lingering over the top of this team, then I
Speaker 3: think I might agree with it.
Speaker 5: I hear you.
Speaker 3: I think they have to get it done because of
Speaker 3: the leverage that they've been pushed against, or because of
Speaker 3: Dak's leverage that's pushed against it. Dak wants to be
Speaker 3: here for the most part. I think the Jones family
Speaker 3: wants Tak to be here, especially coming off of a
Speaker 3: season where he finished second in MVP voting. People forget
Speaker 3: about that because of the way that things melted down
Speaker 3: against Green Bay. He deserves to be the franchise quarterback
Speaker 3: with the Dallas Cowboys. It's how do you maneuver from
Speaker 3: that fifty nine million dollar cap hit. That might be
Speaker 3: the top priority right now because that's a lot of tax.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of money until you look at and
Speaker 5: see how much Denver is about to be hidden.
Speaker 3: See but that's a that's an NFL record. I don't
Speaker 3: any other dead cat.
Speaker 6: I agree A perspective again, I left that trip to
Speaker 6: perspectives everything, and like seriously, like real talk, perspective is everything.
Speaker 6: So when you're when you're at the top of the
Speaker 6: league and you're like, Okay, you got a sixty million
Speaker 6: dollars hit, you're.
Speaker 5: Like, oh my gosh, it's like they got eighty five
Speaker 5: million dollar hit.
Speaker 2: You like, okay, may mean not it's bad, right, like seriously,
Speaker 2: like like like it's the reality, Like yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's huge, and it can literally handcuff your team.
Speaker 3: And if you'll not for Denver for this entire sea Head,
Speaker 3: Denver screwed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Dallas has options.
Speaker 6: Now they're not the options that you want to take first,
Speaker 6: but you have options. Your your back isn't against the
Speaker 6: wall like like you're you're getting cornered. Yeah, but you're
Speaker 6: not in the corner i'd agree with, right, So I'm
Speaker 6: not And I get I get I get it from
Speaker 6: both sides. I truly get it from both sides. But
Speaker 6: I don't think that Dak just has the Joneses against
Speaker 6: the wall.
Speaker 3: Like I got you, I get what you know I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because there's a there's a part of the the Jones family,
Speaker 3: and I mean more importantly, this thing that's behind me,
Speaker 3: you know, that thing right there, that that star that
Speaker 3: helps Dak Prescott so he wants to here. So that's
Speaker 3: the that's the part of them elevated off the wall.
Speaker 3: But it's not by a lot. I mean, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you their backs are about and a half.
Speaker 6: But if you're the Jones, but if you're if you're
Speaker 6: to Joneses and you're any front office. At the same time,
Speaker 6: as good as he's been as a representative of the brand,
Speaker 6: as good as a quarterback that he's had in regular seasons,
Speaker 6: you you don't want to pay for what you haven't seen,
Speaker 6: which is playoff success. And I think I think that
Speaker 6: aspect is really what's kind of giving me that hesitation
Speaker 6: in terms of them feeling like they have to be
Speaker 6: all in.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 6: I believe that there is a situation, as minute as
Speaker 6: it might be, I believe that there is a situation
Speaker 6: where they put him in a situation where he has
Speaker 6: to play it out.
Speaker 4: This final year.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The way I see it is, you know, he played
Speaker 4: on the franchise tag back and what was that twenty
Speaker 4: twenty and twenty one.
Speaker 3: No, it was twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: And he suffered the leg injury and they as a
Speaker 4: result got a friendlier deal for the team long term. Well,
Speaker 4: he's coming off the season where he was second in
Speaker 4: MVP voting and kind of helped turn around an offense
Speaker 4: under Mike McCarthy, and he's the biggest catalyst in that
Speaker 4: locker room towards success and leadership and everything of the sort.
Speaker 4: I don't see how the front office has any more
Speaker 4: leverage than they would in any other situation just because
Speaker 4: of you know that fact alone. I think he's gonna
Speaker 4: go out there and ask for the biggest paycheck, and honestly,
Speaker 4: he probably deserves it at this point. But you know,
Speaker 4: what does that look like five six years from now,
Speaker 4: then that's probably a good deal, you know. But I
Speaker 4: think it's all again perspective on what you're looking at
Speaker 4: right now. And I think if there's a way to
Speaker 4: say fifteen on the cap hit or twenty on the
Speaker 4: cap hit this year, then that gives you so much
Speaker 4: more room to be able to work on the front
Speaker 4: side of this contract. Because regardless on the back end
Speaker 4: of this contract, you're gonna be paying a lot of
Speaker 4: money in too, Deak Prescott, regardless of what if you
Speaker 4: sign an extension now or if you do it later, like,
Speaker 4: you're still gonna be you still got this back here.
Speaker 4: So that's why I think you have to get it
Speaker 4: done before CD, before Micah, because you need to know
Speaker 4: what back here looks like. Yeah, but I think I
Speaker 4: think if we can get that, if the extension can
Speaker 4: get signed over the course of the next week. They're
Speaker 4: going into free agency on what is that March thirteenth.
Speaker 4: There's an opportunity to figure out what you're looking like
Speaker 4: going into the off season. Really good linebackers available, really
Speaker 4: good running backs available, if you can get one of
Speaker 4: each other, either or the other. I think I think
Speaker 4: you're cooking with gas going into the draft.
Speaker 3: Well, let's say our first break when we come back,
Speaker 3: I want to talk about how Jerry did backtrack a
Speaker 3: significant amount at the combine, about the all in approach,
Speaker 3: so what could that look like. And I want to
Speaker 3: address some of the rumors around Tyrone Smith and what
Speaker 3: that could look like on your offensive line as well
Speaker 3: when we come back with more talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 5: I think I had a variation, did you Quaker oats?
Speaker 5: That I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think they called it porridge on the mountain, but
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure it.
Speaker 3: Was like like Goldilocks and the Three Bears.
Speaker 6: It was like, yeah, it was pretty much like a
Speaker 6: slop version of the Quaker.
Speaker 5: Oh so I'm gonna go ahead and say that I
Speaker 5: have my oats every day when I was on a mountain.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 3: Did you have like it's almost like space food is
Speaker 3: what it ultimately is? It's packaged drive for.
Speaker 4: Or what is it?
Speaker 3: Dry ice?
Speaker 5: Or yes?
Speaker 3: D I love what I'm looking for.
Speaker 5: You never have space food?
Speaker 4: I human food.
Speaker 3: Have you ever gone? Are you camping? Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Ever?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But like I like legitimate campus yes, actually so
Speaker 3: where you like open the package and you pour in
Speaker 3: like boiling water and then you swirl it around and
Speaker 3: then it's.
Speaker 4: A caspfire and we cook actual food. That's that's the difference.
Speaker 5: Hey, beamber. Have you ever had space ice cream?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 5: I space ice creams.
Speaker 3: Are that It's delicious?
Speaker 4: Okay? All right, Well, somebody send in some space hearing
Speaker 4: about twenty years when we're able to travel to Mars.
Speaker 4: I'll go out there.
Speaker 3: And try some space ice cream by yourself. We should
Speaker 3: bring it in next week. It's not hard to find.
Speaker 3: They have it in the camping section of like all
Speaker 3: of these different sorts. You can go to Walmarts, Spylight
Speaker 3: camp food. Let's bring it up. I think we should
Speaker 3: bring it in next week. I think yeah, space camp whatever.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: The rumors have started to swirl a bit throughout the
Speaker 3: NFL about what this off season could look like for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and uh Nick, you mentioned in our news
Speaker 3: and notes a minute ago about how Jerry specifically wanted
Speaker 3: to backtrack from the quote unquote all in approach. How
Speaker 3: much did he backtrack and and what do you feel
Speaker 3: like this off season could look like for me here
Speaker 3: depending on the first dominoes to fall.
Speaker 4: I don't think he necessarily backtracked. I don't think that's
Speaker 4: maybe the right word. I think it was just more
Speaker 4: so him throwing in what he meant whenever he did
Speaker 4: say all in at the Senior Bowl shirt, and because
Speaker 4: that was a long quote, clarifying it wasn't the two words,
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of people kind of had
Speaker 4: adjusted expectations whenever that that was said. But when An
Speaker 4: asked directly to define all in on Friday, this is
Speaker 4: what he said. We can interpret this how we feel
Speaker 4: it might take the whole show. We will be working
Speaker 4: on different players and drafting different people. Just the very
Speaker 4: nature of it is different different people. We have different coaches.
Speaker 4: I think the attention that our nuances of where we
Speaker 4: are with the cap, the nuances of where we are
Speaker 4: with our position in the draft, the nuances of where
Speaker 4: we are with our free agents, we get that involved
Speaker 4: with the definition of being all in. When you look
Speaker 4: at those aspects, we will be looking at every solution
Speaker 4: towards winning this year. And he gave an example of
Speaker 4: kind of being all in, and it would be if
Speaker 4: they're sitting there at twenty four and there's a quarterback
Speaker 4: that's slipping. Let's say for a sample, JJ McCarthy. He's
Speaker 4: not taking that quarterback. He's taking a guy that has
Speaker 4: an instant impact at twenty four and not planning for
Speaker 4: the future in that sense. So what does that look like? Okay,
Speaker 4: let's talk about all these nuances, nuances of where we
Speaker 4: are with the cap. That means getting an extension done
Speaker 4: for Dak Prescott because if you're going all in this year,
Speaker 4: you need more cap money. Nuances of where we are
Speaker 4: with our position in the draft, number twenty four in
Speaker 4: the first round.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's not necessarily like a nuance though,
Speaker 3: at least positioning with the draft, because they've been in
Speaker 3: the mid twenties the last four years. Yeah, been in
Speaker 3: that conversation the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: I think I don't think it's necessarily position like position
Speaker 4: for like selection of these position as far as like mindset,
Speaker 4: like where we are with the draft. We're going to
Speaker 4: go take best player available at twenty four, We're going
Speaker 4: to go take best player available at fifty six or
Speaker 4: fifty seven, whatever it is, and adding bigger bodies on
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. We'll dive into that a
Speaker 4: little bit later because I want to touch on that.
Speaker 4: And then nuances of where we are with our free agents.
Speaker 4: This is the part that I have to believe to
Speaker 4: see because whenever free agency opens, first off, what does
Speaker 4: that cap number look like? And second off, if you're
Speaker 4: able to make a splash or two in free agency,
Speaker 4: then yeah, that maybe that would serve better towards being
Speaker 4: all in. But as of right now and what I
Speaker 4: expect free agency to look like. We've talked about Tyron
Speaker 4: Smith potentially being out the door. I don't kind of
Speaker 4: see how that manifests over the course of the next
Speaker 4: three or four weeks.
Speaker 3: Hmm, I'm I'm even looking at it. If they go
Speaker 3: out and add a veteran linebacker, that's one thing they will,
Speaker 3: and maybe even a veteran starting caliber linebacker. There's a
Speaker 3: couple of them in free agency. I think I would
Speaker 3: feel much better about this team. Even if they don't
Speaker 3: go get a starting caliber running back. I would be
Speaker 3: fine if they go get a linebacker. I would rather
Speaker 3: have both. I would rather go and get a starting
Speaker 3: caliber linebacker, starting caliber running back, and then I trust
Speaker 3: this front office enough to draft well and figure it out.
Speaker 3: Outside of that.
Speaker 6: I'd much rather than get one of these bigger name
Speaker 6: he tackles. You would rather go get go get a dog.
Speaker 6: They got some dogs.
Speaker 3: What if they bring back Jonathan Hankins add a dog
Speaker 3: to him? You want somebody else?
Speaker 6: I always buy my Rock Wilders and two's do you
Speaker 6: have any Rock Wilders cashes in clay? Before cashes in clay,
Speaker 6: it was dread and locked. There's never just one. Never
Speaker 6: just never just one. There's always two dogs. Do you
Speaker 6: have the next names picked out? They got some years
Speaker 6: left car? Yeah, I like it, but no, there was
Speaker 6: dread and Lock. Now there's Cashes in Clay, So there's
Speaker 6: there's always two dogs. There's always two, and I think
Speaker 6: that you need to if one goes down, you still
Speaker 6: you still feel good. So like, even if you're able
Speaker 6: to bring back Jonathan Hankins, you still need a goon
Speaker 6: out there. And there are some goons that are available
Speaker 6: on the front line. Now are they gonna cost you
Speaker 6: Absolutely now as that play into the cap, absolutely unless
Speaker 6: you just want to cash them out.
Speaker 5: There's always an opportunity there too.
Speaker 6: So I'm in the like in the likelihood, especially with
Speaker 6: Zimmer and he always has big boys up front.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had good defensive tackle play throughout its time,
Speaker 3: and not just good Bengal or at Sincy in Minnesota,
Speaker 3: not just good. Yeah, but it's always great, always a
Speaker 3: great one, yeah, always a great one, never a good one,
Speaker 3: never just a good one. So you think Zim could
Speaker 3: be good for Mazzi in that spot. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: Mazzi needs he definitely needs to take a step forward,
Speaker 3: but I don't. I'm not expecting Mazzi to take a massive.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on in that young man's
Speaker 6: head to speak to that, so I would hope. I
Speaker 6: don't know what type of coaching he responds to. I
Speaker 6: do know that he lost a lot of weight. Yes,
Speaker 6: it seemed like he lost a lot of drive from
Speaker 6: what we understood about him as a player. So I
Speaker 6: can't speak to what he needs or what he's going
Speaker 6: to respond to. But I'm hoping, and I don't think
Speaker 6: he has a choice at this point. Either he's going
Speaker 6: to respond or he's not going to respond. So that's
Speaker 6: the coach. That's what's going forward. That's what we all
Speaker 6: have to rest assured in. But what I do believe
Speaker 6: is I do believe that they have to I don't
Speaker 6: want to say want to, I want to say hope.
Speaker 6: I think that they have to make a splash with
Speaker 6: a defensi alignment. As much as we've talked about linebackers,
Speaker 6: you can get a lesser linebacker if you have a
Speaker 6: better defensive front. I've said this a gazillion times. Yeah, right,
Speaker 6: So I don't think that you have to go get
Speaker 6: this stud linebacker as much as if you need as
Speaker 6: you need to go get a stud defensive lineman. And
Speaker 6: if you're able to retain Hankins, have a stud of beast.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about somebody who's like when they line up
Speaker 6: the old lines, like, crap, we gotta deal.
Speaker 5: With this cat.
Speaker 3: If you have that as well as.
Speaker 5: A Jonathan Hankins, then you and then now.
Speaker 6: You're cooking with something because now you're gonna let your
Speaker 6: dns whoever you want to put out there, d Law Michael,
Speaker 6: whoever else you still have on your roster at that
Speaker 6: point in time. Now those guys can go eat. Now
Speaker 6: you can mess around the stunts and he can do
Speaker 6: all the things that he does scheme wise to free
Speaker 6: up your next level defenders. But I think it's more
Speaker 6: important with somebody's free agents. If you were going to
Speaker 6: make a Day one splash and free agency, I would
Speaker 6: love for that to be a defensive lineman that all
Speaker 6: of us would be sitting up here doing cart and
Speaker 6: handstands on if they if that name was called, there's
Speaker 6: a number of them out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of running through this defensive tackle free agent list.
Speaker 4: I know Grover Stewart from the Colts has been one
Speaker 4: that the fan base has talked a lot about on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Sheldon Rankins out of Houston, coming off a season where
Speaker 4: he had thirty seven tackles six sacks. I mean, going
Speaker 4: down the list, Dakwan Jones, Justin Jones, Javon Kinlaw, Christian Wilkins,
Speaker 4: Quinton Jefferson, and then you can get into the lower
Speaker 4: paid guys from this past season, Justin Mattabuke. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's opportunities to make a splash and free agency if
Speaker 4: you can. Now some of those players probably be returning
Speaker 4: to their teams, but I think there is an opportunity
Speaker 4: to get a defensive tackle and make it work. We've
Speaker 4: talked about the free agent linebackers a little bit in
Speaker 4: the time that you were gone as well, and I
Speaker 4: think there are some really interesting names that are right
Speaker 4: there at the top. We talked about a SiZ how Shier.
Speaker 4: I mean, that would be my guy to bring in
Speaker 4: just because of his run stopping ability. But let's say
Speaker 4: you bring in a free agent defensive tackle and you
Speaker 4: bring back Jonathan Hankins, then you're working with Hankins, this
Speaker 4: no name free agent and Mazzie Smith operating together in
Speaker 4: that defensive interior. Go back to the second level. You're
Speaker 4: already getting a third round draft pick to Marvine overshow,
Speaker 4: and we haven't seen what he can do on the
Speaker 4: field just yet in the regular season. So you pair
Speaker 4: him into mont Clark, you go draft to one. You
Speaker 4: don't necessarily need to get a big time correct linebacker
Speaker 4: free agent. You can get one just to have a body,
Speaker 4: not necessarily a Rashaun Effan situation where you can't really
Speaker 4: play well. Go get a body that can be capable
Speaker 4: of rotating in and having opportunity, and then that allows
Speaker 4: you a little bit more flexibility on the offensive side
Speaker 4: of the ball to go get a running back or
Speaker 4: go get a tackle, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: There are so many ways that this thing can go,
Speaker 3: And like you talked about in the open, it could
Speaker 3: go so many ways in the next six days. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the next six days are going to tell us a
Speaker 3: lot about this offseason. But when we come back, I'm
Speaker 3: going to put you guys in the GM shoes. Yes,
Speaker 3: I want you guys to tell me what you're doing
Speaker 3: with Tyron Smith in the offensive line. What is your
Speaker 3: plan moving into twenty twenty four up front to protect
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. Whether he he gets an extension or not.
Speaker 3: I want him protected. We're gonna talk about it when
Speaker 3: we come back right after this.
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Speaker 3: for this offseason addition every Tuesday, ten am Central Time,
Speaker 3: Live from the Star and Frisco. And gentlemen, it's good
Speaker 3: to be back. It's good to be having everybody back
Speaker 3: in healthy year, back in stateside. John will be back
Speaker 3: next week. It's gonna be great. But I don't want
Speaker 3: to waste any more time talking about this offensive line.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's been all year, the last couple
Speaker 3: of years, we've been trying to talk offensive line. What
Speaker 3: is your plan moving forward? Do you believe that letting
Speaker 3: Tyron Smith walk, letting his Dallas tenure come to an
Speaker 3: end is the right thing to do?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 3: Or do you feel like retaining him and then drafting
Speaker 3: his his ultimate I guess what is it like bringing
Speaker 3: him in and letting him learn.
Speaker 4: I think this is It's gonna be a tough pill
Speaker 4: to swallow for a lot of Cowboys fans, But I
Speaker 4: think you look up a year from now and you
Speaker 4: see that it's probably the right decision. You got to
Speaker 4: factor a few things in. Tyron Smith coming off of
Speaker 4: a season where he played thirteen games, was able to
Speaker 4: return to second team All Pro. That price tag is
Speaker 4: going to be higher as a result. Now you have
Speaker 4: to be okay, let's let's go down the path of
Speaker 4: resigning him, right. You have to be okay with bringing
Speaker 4: him in, understanding that one bad injury early in the
Speaker 4: season can take him out for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4: You still got to pay that That's that's money that
Speaker 4: could be allocated elsewhere on the team to be able
Speaker 4: to operate. Now, factor that in and you look at
Speaker 4: the tackle class here in the NFL Draft in the
Speaker 4: first round. I mean, we've we've talked about it many times.
Speaker 4: There's eight nine guys at the tackle position that can
Speaker 4: go in the first round. You're sitting there at twenty four,
Speaker 4: You're gonna get a good one. You're gonna get a
Speaker 4: guy that can plug and play. So you go and
Speaker 4: you take on that rookie contract at left tackle, and uh,
Speaker 4: you move on from Tyron Smith and it's it's tough
Speaker 4: because it's, uh, you know, he's a guy that's been
Speaker 4: here since twenty eleven and he's brought you a lot
Speaker 4: of good football. Yeah, and he did a lot last
Speaker 4: season to be able to show that he can be
Speaker 4: sustainable and be on the field. Jerry Jones talked about
Speaker 4: in his availability last week how he was fresh going
Speaker 4: into the playoffs and it was it was huge for
Speaker 4: the team and if they had made a playoff run,
Speaker 4: that would have been a big part of it. But
Speaker 4: I I just don't feel like you can get you
Speaker 4: can get lucky like that and hit on not not
Speaker 4: being fully healthy every single year going forward for a
Speaker 4: two to three year contract that you do sign. But
Speaker 4: we all know what's gonna happen. He's gonna go to
Speaker 4: Kansas City and play seventeen games next Sharon win a ring,
Speaker 4: so back.
Speaker 3: To back to back for the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: Yep, goodness, It's it's time to allow for him to
Speaker 6: see what he can get it's time.
Speaker 5: It's it's a car that's been good to you.
Speaker 6: Everybody's had that car R that you have for a while,
Speaker 6: might have some transmission issues along the way. You know
Speaker 6: you had the transmission fixed the number of times, right,
Speaker 6: you kind of got to the mindset where you're like,
Speaker 6: you know what that transmit it is probably.
Speaker 5: Gonna go on me at any point, like it just
Speaker 5: it can go at any moment.
Speaker 6: And then you have that one good year You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: that training, it did good this past year.
Speaker 5: And then that good that good price comes up on
Speaker 5: a new car.
Speaker 6: Then it's like, dang, do I get Do I get
Speaker 6: rid of old Faithful that's given me a lot of
Speaker 6: heartache and it's been good to me.
Speaker 5: It's lasts a long time.
Speaker 6: Or do I just go ahead and just turn the
Speaker 6: keys in and move on.
Speaker 5: To the new car?
Speaker 6: And a new car is gonna be different. It's gonna
Speaker 6: be weird. It's probably not gonna drive the same. It's
Speaker 6: not gonna have this all the memories. But I'm gonna
Speaker 6: have some new memories in this car. You know, we're
Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna generate some new memories. It's time to
Speaker 6: get rid of the old training, the old transmission, gotta go. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, it had a good year, but historically it
Speaker 6: hasn't been great to you. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 6: in terms of dependability, and I think that's where you're
Speaker 6: at with the Tyrant.
Speaker 5: He's been great to you, He's been great to you.
Speaker 5: He's had his issues though, you know, he's had his issues.
Speaker 6: You know, dependability is availability in this league, and he
Speaker 6: hasn't necessarily always been that, and that's not to his fault.
Speaker 6: It just is what it is. I had those issues
Speaker 6: when I played in the league. I wasn't always available
Speaker 6: to the Cowboys. I wish I was, you know, but
Speaker 6: I had my injury. So sometimes you got to move on,
Speaker 6: you know. And I think that's where the Cowboys are at.
Speaker 6: As much as that's gonna hurt, you know, you move on.
Speaker 6: You moved on from Randy Gregory moved on from him,
Speaker 6: and there are certain guys you just, you know, regardless
Speaker 6: of the reasoning, it's time to move on. And I
Speaker 6: think with the Transmission that he has, it's time. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And you let him go see that, you give him
Speaker 6: that freedom, and I think that's what they're doing.
Speaker 4: Hey go see, Yeah, and you truthfully wish him the best,
Speaker 4: Like he goes and he plays seventeen games for this
Speaker 4: be awesome. I'd love to talk about that.
Speaker 6: It's a young man's game, yeah, and he knows that, right,
Speaker 6: and they know that, and it's just you come to
Speaker 6: a head.
Speaker 5: It's just like, well, I got some tread left. I
Speaker 5: see that.
Speaker 6: But I mean I just put the tester on your
Speaker 6: tires playing and it's not a lot of tread there.
Speaker 3: I can't I can't get over the fact that you're
Speaker 3: comparing an a time pro bowler to a absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 5: I'm just new transmissions. I mean, you know everything.
Speaker 6: Engines are running better now, like they're stronger, the putting
Speaker 6: out more horse apple.
Speaker 3: Car play fish a great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there's just certain like you might have.
Speaker 3: Some bow speakers in there, Like you love it great,
Speaker 3: you love it, and you really don't want to move
Speaker 3: from heated seeds.
Speaker 5: You don't want to move on fro him. But it's
Speaker 5: like these features are.
Speaker 4: Nice, Yeah, that athleticism. Looking for Jordan Morgan. He's been
Speaker 4: available last four years in Arizona.
Speaker 6: I mean this thing, this thing wasn't it was a
Speaker 6: specimist thing, was an excursion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this didn't exist back in twenty eight.
Speaker 5: The excursions were amazing. They still run great.
Speaker 6: It's Ford Excursions still run great, right, but they're not
Speaker 6: efficient Ford.
Speaker 3: I still need an SUV, large sized SUV that can
Speaker 3: fit a triple trailer stroller just in case.
Speaker 6: But if Ford seems or something, they're not going to
Speaker 6: send you an excursion. They discontinued that model.
Speaker 3: Is there really has great?
Speaker 5: Absolutely that thing?
Speaker 3: Was it an expedition? Is that the big one, that's
Speaker 3: the that's.
Speaker 5: Their expedition x LT now is their big boy.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. But Excursion.
Speaker 6: They came out with Excursion and it was big boy,
Speaker 6: V eight, V ten some of them, and it was awesome,
Speaker 6: but they just they had some issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah they're they're whore horses, yeah.
Speaker 5: But they have some issues and they weren't dependable. So what
Speaker 5: do they do? They shut it down?
Speaker 4: Right AnyWho offensive line.
Speaker 3: So if you're getting rid of Tyron Smith, which both
Speaker 3: of you guys are, okay letting him walk, I'm in
Speaker 3: that same category. I think he's done a phenomenal job
Speaker 3: of fighting through some of these late injuries over the
Speaker 3: last couple of years. But it's just it's come to
Speaker 3: the point where it's hamstringing you from moving forward.
Speaker 5: You can't rish your hat off.
Speaker 3: That's what it is, because you can't. Even if you
Speaker 3: take an offensive lineman in the first round, are you
Speaker 3: going to get immediate impact from that first round first
Speaker 3: round offensive lineman?
Speaker 5: Probably not.
Speaker 3: Maybe four or five games a year if Tyrone Smith's unavailable.
Speaker 3: But it's hamstringing you, you're you're unable to use it.
Speaker 3: So I'm okay with it. It saves you on the cap,
Speaker 3: it gives you a better look to the future with
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, and then whoever you would end up drafting.
Speaker 3: It does, however, pigeonhole you in that first round, that
Speaker 3: twenty fourth overall if you let Tyron Smith walk. That's
Speaker 3: the one thing that's really a knock is now you're
Speaker 3: most likely going to take an offensive tackle.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's definitive though, Okay, because you have
Speaker 4: it never never is.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have one option that is sitting on the
Speaker 4: team currently, and that's whether Tyler Beiottish Walks or not.
Speaker 4: Left tackle Tyler Smith, left guard TJ.
Speaker 5: Bass.
Speaker 4: Okay, they've been working him at that position. Talking about
Speaker 4: TJ Bass since since camp last year. Now talking about
Speaker 4: bubble guts. That would give me bubble guts. Don't give
Speaker 4: me wrong center and center. You're either working with Tyler
Speaker 4: Biottish or brock offfan or whoever you pick up right
Speaker 4: guard of Zach Martin Wright tackle Terrence Steele. Now do
Speaker 4: I love that situation? Absolutely not.
Speaker 5: I do not.
Speaker 4: I would. I think Tyler Smith is the best left
Speaker 4: guard in the NFL three years from now. I think
Speaker 4: he's he's going to have all pro perennial type potential.
Speaker 4: I think if you throw them that left tackle, he's
Speaker 4: still gonna be really good. But I don't think you
Speaker 4: can get what you can get out of him at
Speaker 4: left guard and draft a tackle here in the first round.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I don't think it's definitive. I could
Speaker 4: see a big shiny object sitting there at twenty four, like,
Speaker 4: get it, a Brian Thomas junior or an Xavier Worthy
Speaker 4: get it, and they draft him?
Speaker 5: Please?
Speaker 3: Those are those are not offensive lineman.
Speaker 5: Get office linemen, yeah, get.
Speaker 3: Those are skills players.
Speaker 5: Get the shiny officeive lineman.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's just a big shiny offensive line, the big
Speaker 4: shiny Yeah. So the cyber truck, the big shiny is
Speaker 4: that that's what I want it.
Speaker 3: Last year the trun I really wish they would.
Speaker 5: Have did that.
Speaker 4: The cyber truck is Marius Mems out of Georgia. That
Speaker 4: would be that'd be the cyber truck.
Speaker 6: But don't get that, then get get the big shiny
Speaker 6: office of lineman that is sitting there at twenty four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you wait, because.
Speaker 6: There's going to be a run on receivers and quarterbacks
Speaker 6: and everything else, you're gonna have some options.
Speaker 4: There's going to be a very shiny object sitting there
Speaker 4: at twenty four. That's not an offensive lineman. And if
Speaker 4: they I wouldn't put it past the front office. No,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past they did
Speaker 4: it last year. Did what last year? Smith was not
Speaker 4: the big I don't really.
Speaker 3: Think there were any big shiny objects. I think that
Speaker 3: was just they felt like they needed defensive run help
Speaker 3: and that Monzie gave them the best opportunity.
Speaker 4: If they were taking a big shiny object, they would
Speaker 4: have taken Sam Laporta.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really loved Saporta too.
Speaker 4: But you look at Ceedee Lamb and that was a
Speaker 4: big shiny object. The needs going into that draft and
Speaker 4: he was sitting there. They took the shiny object. Michael Parsons,
Speaker 4: there's kind of an aspect to that as well. It's
Speaker 4: not it's not on the level of lamb, but that
Speaker 4: was a big shiny object where there probably could have
Speaker 4: been some needs elsewhere.
Speaker 3: And everybody like an off ball linebacker and they're like,
Speaker 3: what are you doing taking hop ball linebacker at twelve tackle?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. Look, I understand. I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: don't marry yourself to it because.
Speaker 3: They don't take a tackle tackling.
Speaker 6: I'm tackling everybody in the front office.
Speaker 3: Deal sounds good, all right, sounds that sounds like a.
Speaker 5: What was it?
Speaker 3: What was that commercial? It was like it was yeah,
Speaker 3: it was office linebacker. Yeah, uh yeah. I I just
Speaker 3: don't you talk about bubble guts. Week four, you're going
Speaker 3: on the road to play San Francisco. I don't even
Speaker 3: know who the opponents are next year, but you play
Speaker 3: San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, there you go.
Speaker 3: Week four, San Francisco. You've got your offensive linemen of
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, TJ. Bass, brock Hoffman, Zach Martin, and Terrence
Speaker 3: Steele going out there to block the San Francisco front seven.
Speaker 3: I would rather throw up.
Speaker 4: God forbid, there's an injury up front, and then you
Speaker 4: got to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 3: That then awesome Richards is playing at left tackle with TJ. Bass.
Speaker 6: Okay, go get it, get please, just please, just just
Speaker 6: don't even play around, like, don't even play around.
Speaker 4: And there's an opportunity in free agency as well to
Speaker 4: get not not a towoy dog get type talent, but
Speaker 4: like a too money wise to be able to throw
Speaker 4: a guy that's that's a center of value and get.
Speaker 5: Your if there.
Speaker 6: I don't know what the center market is, but I'm
Speaker 6: hoping that they can get a veteran.
Speaker 3: It's not very good.
Speaker 4: I don't think they need a center. Yeah, well the
Speaker 4: center market is not bad. It's not horrible.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: It's Tyler and Connor Williams. And you kind of know
Speaker 3: what you have in both of those guys up top.
Speaker 3: There are two of the top center Lloyd Cushion Barry
Speaker 3: would be fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Connor mc govern Yeah, there you go. We'll
Speaker 4: clap Matt Hennessey, Tyler Larson.
Speaker 3: Is that that is that jets? Connor McGovern the center
Speaker 3: actual Connor mc governess. Yeah, so that's different than your.
Speaker 4: But I think I think if you're going in free agency,
Speaker 4: I don't think centers where you need to focus a
Speaker 4: lot of attention.
Speaker 5: I think it's not.
Speaker 4: I think it's tackle. Even if you are drafting a
Speaker 4: tackle in the first round, you need to tackle depth
Speaker 4: and you saw that last year. You needed it bad.
Speaker 3: You think, if if Tyron Smith, this will be the
Speaker 3: last one before we really wrap up. But do you
Speaker 3: feel like getting letting Tyran and Smith walk would make
Speaker 3: it more likely to be bring Tyler Biottish back.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think so too.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, because then you at least have some
Speaker 3: level of continuity on your offensive line. You're not having
Speaker 3: to replace two individuals, You're only replacing one.
Speaker 4: I'll offer this point to that though. We've talked about
Speaker 4: the running game with so many members of the front
Speaker 4: office since the since the season ended, and how the
Speaker 4: running game was not up to the standard this past season. Now,
Speaker 4: when you talk about Tony Pollard, it's spoken in a
Speaker 4: high light. It's like, hey, you know, towards the back
Speaker 4: end of the year, he really found a stride. We
Speaker 4: feel like he had a great year, a thousand yard season.
Speaker 4: Coming off of that injury. We feel like he had
Speaker 4: a great year quote from Jerry Jones last year last week.
Speaker 4: So when you talk about the running game, it's always, yeah,
Speaker 4: we felt like Tony had a great year. Could he
Speaker 4: have had a better year? Probably so. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's not just the running back. It's what's in front
Speaker 4: of him and what's blocking for him. And so that
Speaker 4: implies that you really have to make changes up front.
Speaker 4: And that does not mean getting rid of Tyron Smith,
Speaker 4: because Tyron Smith was not the problem in the run game.
Speaker 4: So you got to figure that one out and figure
Speaker 4: out what you can swallow as far as going into
Speaker 4: the season and being okay with that in the run game,
Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a huge, huge overhaul with
Speaker 4: that run game. Over the course of the next three
Speaker 4: to four weeks. We're gonna have a really good idea
Speaker 4: of what that will look like in twenty twenty four. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: because I really like watching Tony Pollard, I don't think
Speaker 4: it involves Tony Pollard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any thoughts.
Speaker 5: I think it depends on who you pick up.
Speaker 6: I think there's obviously we live with this with this
Speaker 6: show talking about how much how many available options there
Speaker 6: are for the running back position. It's probably the greatest
Speaker 6: class in terms of free agency ever. There's a lot
Speaker 6: of them. I mean almost every team could get to
Speaker 6: have to have. The NFL can get a started running
Speaker 6: back right now. So I think there's options, and I
Speaker 6: think there's situations where TP comes up as it comes
Speaker 6: back as a as a two hit A monster.
Speaker 3: Would love that as long as it's a deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that's.
Speaker 3: All the way he's gonna be.
Speaker 6: I mean, all these running backs are available. They're not
Speaker 6: all getting solid deals now.
Speaker 3: So if anything, they think there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: of all being out there makes the value down.
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of value out there, so
Speaker 6: I play great chance for a lot of teams, not
Speaker 6: just the Cowboys, to walk away with a nice two
Speaker 6: headed monster.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The draft class is really awesome as well running back.
Speaker 4: So you know, I think if you pay a guy
Speaker 4: on Day two with one of these free agents, you're
Speaker 4: cooking with gas.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 3: I think so, well, we'll see exactly what happens between
Speaker 3: now and next Tuesday. I feel like when we hit
Speaker 3: the earwaves on Talking Cowboys next Tuesday, we're gonna have
Speaker 3: a lot to catch up on and we'll have a
Speaker 3: pretty good idea of what this off season is going
Speaker 3: to look like.
Speaker 5: He starts right after our show, right, it.
Speaker 4: Starts the next day. The next day, we'll have the
Speaker 4: tampering period. We'll have the tampering period is going on
Speaker 4: on Monday, so.
Speaker 3: We'll be able to see agreed to terms and who's
Speaker 3: gonna stay and who the tag deadlines today, so that
Speaker 3: that's pretty much done and nobody's getting tagged across the move.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be crazy offseason.
Speaker 3: It will be a crazy offseason.
Speaker 4: Buckle up, and we'll be here through it all another day.
Speaker 4: Another dollar, Isaia to stand back.
Speaker 3: All right, for Chris Beam, for Isaiah stand Back who
Speaker 3: climbed Mount Kiliman Jarrow and gave a well of freshwater
Speaker 3: to a village in Africa. To Nick Harris, who went
Speaker 3: to Indianapolis Combine and kicked ass out at the Indianapolis
Speaker 3: Combine brought back a ton of content to talk about
Speaker 3: on the Draft show that comes up at eleven. And
Speaker 3: to me who did absolutely nothing except that she did
Speaker 3: see my beautiful wife give us three babies. That's it.
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