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Speaker 3: This He's Talking Cowboys, screaming live.

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Speaker 1: From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Streaks. Second, PA's Got Tidsstown.

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Speaker 1: And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into Talking Cowboys here on a Tuesday this offseason.

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Speaker 3: And apparently if you climb Mount Kilimanjarrow or do something

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Speaker 3: like that, you can talk to everybody on your way

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Speaker 3: in the building, even if you're running behind.

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Speaker 4: It'd be like this, you look slimmer.

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Speaker 5: I lost twelve pounds.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, oh my goodness, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: lost twelve pounds.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It feels like walks came to.

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Speaker 3: The building or like like during the mount killing the

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Speaker 3: jar climb or.

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Speaker 5: The whole thing. Man, ten days, twelve pounds, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: It was a lot.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot. It looked like a lot. Whenever

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Speaker 3: you sent the the video from the top and one

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Speaker 3: you were an emotional wreck, which I understand that's unbelievable

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Speaker 3: of a feat. But the the thing that I picked

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Speaker 3: up on was that your dreads were frozzen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was all frozen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were moving your head and it felt like

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Speaker 3: they were just cracking going on.

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Speaker 6: I honestly, like Scott was just asking me about that,

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Speaker 6: I didn't think, well, my fingers felt it. Honestly, my

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Speaker 6: fingers are still numb, so I'm hoping that feeling goes

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Speaker 6: away sooner than later. Yeah, it just feels like just

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Speaker 6: crazy pressure on their fingertips.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I didn't think about that part.

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Speaker 6: Once you get up to that point, like you're not

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Speaker 6: you're cold, but you're not thinking about the cold.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 3: You gotta you can't think about them.

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Speaker 6: No, you're literally, at least for me, I can only

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Speaker 6: speak for me. I'm looking at the heels of the

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Speaker 6: was just like you take a step, I take a step,

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Speaker 6: You take a step like that's literally where my mind was,

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Speaker 6: and then just trying to.

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Speaker 5: Battle all the crap that goes through your head at

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Speaker 3: In terms of a physical feat, is that the coolest

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Speaker 3: thing you've ever done? Yes?

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Speaker 6: And yes, physically yes, but it wasn't. The physical wasn't the.

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Speaker 5: Most challenging aspects. It was the mental.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like physically it was challenging. It was demanding going down.

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Speaker 6: By the time we went down, my legs were toast

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Speaker 6: like they were gone, like non existent at all.

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Speaker 5: Breathing good, No, not at all breathing.

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Speaker 4: That was the thing we talked about. I was like,

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Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be the biggest challenge there was it.

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Speaker 5: It was, Yes, for me, it was.

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Speaker 6: And that played a big part in to my mental

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Speaker 6: heart rate, yeah, you know, you know, like so endurance athletes,

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Speaker 6: I wasn't like I just like one five you know

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Speaker 6: heart rate for me, like, that's that's that's humping. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: running some sprints and then you take a break. You

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Speaker 5: Heart rate stays up there. Yeah, just kind of just

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Speaker 3: Well, congratulations, congratulations to you. You look like a fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you've been John so long. He has three babies.

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Speaker 3: This is the right show for everybody that's watching and

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Speaker 3: list the kitchen. This is the right, right show. Isaiah's

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Speaker 3: Manchoda will be back next week. Uh but yeah, you

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Speaker 6: They went over there, and honestly, it is like my

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Speaker 6: And what they've been doing for the past ten years

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Speaker 6: is they've been going to Tanzania primarily and digging water

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Speaker 6: the right way to tell a story. But you know,

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Speaker 6: we went to one village particularly, and it is about

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Speaker 6: So they have about four thousand liters per hour that

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Speaker 6: Around where they were trying to source this water and

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Speaker 6: it's unfathomable the conditions that people are living in outside

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Speaker 5: But it was awesome to.

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Speaker 6: Be able to go see what the previous co hurts,

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Speaker 6: see the fruition of that. So thank you to anybody

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Speaker 5: And I have.

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Speaker 6: Pictures galore, videos galore of like just the smiles on

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Speaker 6: I'm not talking about like all the different we can

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Speaker 6: I'm definitely I'm not done trying to help with that

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Speaker 4: Well, we're proud of you, Bud.

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Speaker 3: Pretty such job throughout the time out there, and man,

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Speaker 3: can't wait to see the extra content and the extra

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Speaker 3: stories that you're gonna put out there as well. Well,

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Speaker 3: you haven't missed anything. I mean, the Cowboys haven't done anything,

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Speaker 3: right Nick, I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think when the last time was Mike

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Speaker 4: Zimmer hired whenever the last time year? Okay, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: even last whatever you had come in. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: I watched the kind of jombine I was kind of joking.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know. I know, I again, I did not

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Speaker 5: News and notes I feel like is pretty loaded this week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you spent Indie. Last week in Indy, had

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Speaker 3: the NFL combine, But then you've got these reports about

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Speaker 3: Tyron Smith coming out, and there's a number of different

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Speaker 4: Yeah, free agency starting here in about eight days. I

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Speaker 4: Whenever that open, that's hampering period starts, and that's when

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Speaker 4: So by this show next week, we'll have some big

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Speaker 4: stuff to talk about, I feel like. But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, my perspective's changing. It's that I know.

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Speaker 6: I say that because the conversation obviously for a long time,

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Speaker 5: I do believe that they want to get that done.

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Speaker 3: I think they have to get it done because of

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of money until you look at and

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Speaker 3: See but that's a that's an NFL record. I don't

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Speaker 6: I agree A perspective again, I left that trip to

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Speaker 3: And if you'll not for Denver for this entire sea Head,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but Dallas has options.

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Speaker 6: Now they're not the options that you want to take first,

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Speaker 3: Like I got you, I get what you know I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: But if you're the Jones, but if you're if you're

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I believe that there is a situation, as minute as

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Speaker 4: This final year.

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Speaker 4: The way I see it is, you know, he played

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Speaker 4: I don't see how the front office has any more

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Speaker 11: Back into Dear Doctor, the show where I answered life's

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Speaker 11: questions with an ice cold can of doctor Pepper. Sheila,

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Speaker 11: let's hear from my next caller.

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Speaker 5: Would you, Dear doctor?

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Speaker 8: My friend supported me during a tough time.

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Speaker 12: But what's the right gift that says thanks for being

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Speaker 12: a soldier? To cry out?

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Speaker 11: Okay, this one's easy, I say, give her a delicious

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Speaker 11: doctor Pepper. Nothing says thanks good better than one of

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Speaker 11: a kind soda. Yes, any Doctor Pepper flavor will do now,

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Speaker 11: just to remind her that I don't need to be

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Speaker 11: a real doctor to know that Doctor Pepper is the

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Speaker 11: one you deserve.

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Speaker 3: Bat to Talking Cowboys. Back here on Talking Cowboys, presented

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Speaker 5: I think I had a variation, did you Quaker oats?

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Speaker 5: That I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think they called it porridge on the mountain, but

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure it.

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Speaker 3: Was like like Goldilocks and the Three Bears.

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Speaker 6: It was like, yeah, it was pretty much like a

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Speaker 6: slop version of the Quaker.

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Speaker 5: Oh so I'm gonna go ahead and say that I

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Speaker 5: have my oats every day when I was on a mountain.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Did you have like it's almost like space food is

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Speaker 3: what it ultimately is? It's packaged drive for.

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Speaker 4: Or what is it?

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Speaker 3: Dry ice?

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Speaker 5: Or yes?

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Speaker 3: D I love what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 5: You never have space food?

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Speaker 4: I human food.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever gone? Are you camping? Like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Ever?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But like I like legitimate campus yes, actually so

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Speaker 3: where you like open the package and you pour in

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Speaker 3: like boiling water and then you swirl it around and

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Speaker 3: then it's.

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Speaker 4: A caspfire and we cook actual food. That's that's the difference.

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Speaker 5: Hey, beamber. Have you ever had space ice cream?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 5: I space ice creams.

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Speaker 3: Are that It's delicious?

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Speaker 4: Okay? All right, Well, somebody send in some space hearing

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Speaker 4: about twenty years when we're able to travel to Mars.

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Speaker 4: I'll go out there.

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Speaker 3: And try some space ice cream by yourself. We should

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Speaker 3: bring it in next week. It's not hard to find.

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Speaker 3: They have it in the camping section of like all

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Speaker 3: of these different sorts. You can go to Walmarts, Spylight

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Speaker 3: camp food. Let's bring it up. I think we should

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Speaker 3: bring it in next week. I think yeah, space camp whatever.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: The rumors have started to swirl a bit throughout the

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Speaker 3: NFL about what this off season could look like for

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and uh Nick, you mentioned in our news

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Speaker 3: and notes a minute ago about how Jerry specifically wanted

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Speaker 3: to backtrack from the quote unquote all in approach. How

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Speaker 3: much did he backtrack and and what do you feel

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Speaker 3: like this off season could look like for me here

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Speaker 3: depending on the first dominoes to fall.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he necessarily backtracked. I don't think that's

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Speaker 4: maybe the right word. I think it was just more

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Speaker 4: so him throwing in what he meant whenever he did

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Speaker 4: say all in at the Senior Bowl shirt, and because

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Speaker 4: that was a long quote, clarifying it wasn't the two words,

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Speaker 4: and I think a lot of people kind of had

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Speaker 4: adjusted expectations whenever that that was said. But when An

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Speaker 4: asked directly to define all in on Friday, this is

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Speaker 4: what he said. We can interpret this how we feel

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Speaker 4: it might take the whole show. We will be working

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Speaker 4: on different players and drafting different people. Just the very

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Speaker 4: nature of it is different different people. We have different coaches.

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Speaker 4: I think the attention that our nuances of where we

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Speaker 4: are with the cap, the nuances of where we are

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Speaker 4: with our position in the draft, the nuances of where

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Speaker 4: we are with our free agents, we get that involved

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Speaker 4: with the definition of being all in. When you look

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Speaker 4: at those aspects, we will be looking at every solution

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Speaker 4: towards winning this year. And he gave an example of

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Speaker 4: kind of being all in, and it would be if

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Speaker 4: they're sitting there at twenty four and there's a quarterback

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Speaker 4: that's slipping. Let's say for a sample, JJ McCarthy. He's

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Speaker 4: not taking that quarterback. He's taking a guy that has

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Speaker 4: an instant impact at twenty four and not planning for

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Speaker 4: the future in that sense. So what does that look like? Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about all these nuances, nuances of where we

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Speaker 4: are with the cap. That means getting an extension done

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Speaker 4: for Dak Prescott because if you're going all in this year,

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Speaker 4: you need more cap money. Nuances of where we are

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Speaker 4: with our position in the draft, number twenty four in

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Speaker 4: the first round.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's not necessarily like a nuance though,

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Speaker 3: at least positioning with the draft, because they've been in

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Speaker 3: the mid twenties the last four years. Yeah, been in

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Speaker 3: that conversation the last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: I think I don't think it's necessarily position like position

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Speaker 4: for like selection of these position as far as like mindset,

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Speaker 4: like where we are with the draft. We're going to

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Speaker 4: go take best player available at twenty four, We're going

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Speaker 4: to go take best player available at fifty six or

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Speaker 4: fifty seven, whatever it is, and adding bigger bodies on

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Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. We'll dive into that a

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Speaker 4: little bit later because I want to touch on that.

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Speaker 4: And then nuances of where we are with our free agents.

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Speaker 4: This is the part that I have to believe to

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Speaker 4: see because whenever free agency opens, first off, what does

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Speaker 4: that cap number look like? And second off, if you're

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Speaker 4: able to make a splash or two in free agency,

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Speaker 4: then yeah, that maybe that would serve better towards being

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Speaker 4: all in. But as of right now and what I

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Speaker 4: expect free agency to look like. We've talked about Tyron

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Speaker 4: Smith potentially being out the door. I don't kind of

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Speaker 4: see how that manifests over the course of the next

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Speaker 4: three or four weeks.

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Speaker 3: Hmm, I'm I'm even looking at it. If they go

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Speaker 3: out and add a veteran linebacker, that's one thing they will,

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Speaker 3: and maybe even a veteran starting caliber linebacker. There's a

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Speaker 3: couple of them in free agency. I think I would

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Speaker 3: feel much better about this team. Even if they don't

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Speaker 3: go get a starting caliber running back. I would be

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Speaker 3: fine if they go get a linebacker. I would rather

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Speaker 3: have both. I would rather go and get a starting

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Speaker 3: caliber linebacker, starting caliber running back, and then I trust

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Speaker 3: this front office enough to draft well and figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Outside of that.

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Speaker 6: I'd much rather than get one of these bigger name

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Speaker 6: he tackles. You would rather go get go get a dog.

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Speaker 6: They got some dogs.

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Speaker 3: What if they bring back Jonathan Hankins add a dog

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Speaker 3: to him? You want somebody else?

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Speaker 6: I always buy my Rock Wilders and two's do you

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Speaker 6: have any Rock Wilders cashes in clay? Before cashes in clay,

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Speaker 6: it was dread and locked. There's never just one. Never

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Speaker 6: just never just one. There's always two dogs. Do you

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Speaker 6: have the next names picked out? They got some years

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Speaker 6: left car? Yeah, I like it, but no, there was

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Speaker 6: dread and Lock. Now there's Cashes in Clay, So there's

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Speaker 6: there's always two dogs. There's always two, and I think

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Speaker 6: that you need to if one goes down, you still

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Speaker 6: you still feel good. So like, even if you're able

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Speaker 6: to bring back Jonathan Hankins, you still need a goon

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Speaker 6: out there. And there are some goons that are available

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Speaker 6: on the front line. Now are they gonna cost you

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Speaker 6: Absolutely now as that play into the cap, absolutely unless

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Speaker 6: you just want to cash them out.

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Speaker 5: There's always an opportunity there too.

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Speaker 6: So I'm in the like in the likelihood, especially with

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Speaker 6: Zimmer and he always has big boys up front.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had good defensive tackle play throughout its time,

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Speaker 3: and not just good Bengal or at Sincy in Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: not just good. Yeah, but it's always great, always a

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Speaker 3: great one, yeah, always a great one, never a good one,

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Speaker 3: never just a good one. So you think Zim could

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Speaker 3: be good for Mazzi in that spot. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: Mazzi needs he definitely needs to take a step forward,

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Speaker 3: but I don't. I'm not expecting Mazzi to take a massive.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on in that young man's

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Speaker 6: head to speak to that, so I would hope. I

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Speaker 6: don't know what type of coaching he responds to. I

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Speaker 6: do know that he lost a lot of weight. Yes,

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Speaker 6: it seemed like he lost a lot of drive from

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Speaker 6: what we understood about him as a player. So I

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Speaker 6: can't speak to what he needs or what he's going

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Speaker 6: to respond to. But I'm hoping, and I don't think

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Speaker 6: he has a choice at this point. Either he's going

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Speaker 6: to respond or he's not going to respond. So that's

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Speaker 6: the coach. That's what's going forward. That's what we all

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Speaker 6: have to rest assured in. But what I do believe

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Speaker 6: is I do believe that they have to I don't

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Speaker 6: want to say want to, I want to say hope.

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Speaker 6: I think that they have to make a splash with

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Speaker 6: a defensi alignment. As much as we've talked about linebackers,

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Speaker 6: you can get a lesser linebacker if you have a

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Speaker 6: better defensive front. I've said this a gazillion times. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 6: So I don't think that you have to go get

624
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Speaker 6: this stud linebacker as much as if you need as

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Speaker 6: you need to go get a stud defensive lineman. And

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Speaker 6: if you're able to retain Hankins, have a stud of beast.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about somebody who's like when they line up

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Speaker 6: the old lines, like, crap, we gotta deal.

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Speaker 5: With this cat.

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Speaker 3: If you have that as well as.

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Speaker 5: A Jonathan Hankins, then you and then now.

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Speaker 6: You're cooking with something because now you're gonna let your

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Speaker 6: dns whoever you want to put out there, d Law Michael,

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Speaker 6: whoever else you still have on your roster at that

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Speaker 6: point in time. Now those guys can go eat. Now

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Speaker 6: you can mess around the stunts and he can do

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Speaker 6: all the things that he does scheme wise to free

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Speaker 6: up your next level defenders. But I think it's more

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Speaker 6: important with somebody's free agents. If you were going to

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Speaker 6: make a Day one splash and free agency, I would

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Speaker 6: love for that to be a defensive lineman that all

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Speaker 6: of us would be sitting up here doing cart and

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Speaker 6: handstands on if they if that name was called, there's

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Speaker 6: a number of them out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of running through this defensive tackle free agent list.

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Speaker 4: I know Grover Stewart from the Colts has been one

647
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Speaker 4: that the fan base has talked a lot about on Twitter.

648
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Speaker 4: Sheldon Rankins out of Houston, coming off a season where

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Speaker 4: he had thirty seven tackles six sacks. I mean, going

650
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Speaker 4: down the list, Dakwan Jones, Justin Jones, Javon Kinlaw, Christian Wilkins,

651
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Speaker 4: Quinton Jefferson, and then you can get into the lower

652
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Speaker 4: paid guys from this past season, Justin Mattabuke. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's opportunities to make a splash and free agency if

654
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Speaker 4: you can. Now some of those players probably be returning

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Speaker 4: to their teams, but I think there is an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to get a defensive tackle and make it work. We've

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Speaker 4: talked about the free agent linebackers a little bit in

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Speaker 4: the time that you were gone as well, and I

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Speaker 4: think there are some really interesting names that are right

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Speaker 4: there at the top. We talked about a SiZ how Shier.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that would be my guy to bring in

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Speaker 4: just because of his run stopping ability. But let's say

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Speaker 4: bring back Jonathan Hankins, then you're working with Hankins, this

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Speaker 4: and we haven't seen what he can do on the

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Speaker 4: don't necessarily need to get a big time correct linebacker

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Speaker 4: not necessarily a Rashaun Effan situation where you can't really

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Speaker 4: of rotating in and having opportunity, and then that allows

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Speaker 4: you a little bit more flexibility on the offensive side

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Speaker 3: There are so many ways that this thing can go,

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Speaker 3: And like you talked about in the open, it could

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Speaker 3: go so many ways in the next six days. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the next six days are going to tell us a

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. Whether he he gets an extension or not.

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Speaker 3: Live from the Star and Frisco. And gentlemen, it's good

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Speaker 3: to be back. It's good to be having everybody back

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Speaker 3: in healthy year, back in stateside. John will be back

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Speaker 3: next week. It's gonna be great. But I don't want

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Speaker 3: to waste any more time talking about this offensive line.

741
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's been all year, the last couple

742
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Speaker 3: of years, we've been trying to talk offensive line. What

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Speaker 3: is your plan moving forward? Do you believe that letting

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Speaker 3: Tyron Smith walk, letting his Dallas tenure come to an

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Speaker 3: end is the right thing to do?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 3: Or do you feel like retaining him and then drafting

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Speaker 3: his his ultimate I guess what is it like bringing

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Speaker 3: him in and letting him learn.

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Speaker 4: I think this is It's gonna be a tough pill

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Speaker 4: to swallow for a lot of Cowboys fans, But I

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Speaker 4: think you look up a year from now and you

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Speaker 4: see that it's probably the right decision. You got to

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Speaker 4: factor a few things in. Tyron Smith coming off of

755
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Speaker 4: a season where he played thirteen games, was able to

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Speaker 4: return to second team All Pro. That price tag is

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Speaker 4: going to be higher as a result. Now you have

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Speaker 4: to be okay, let's let's go down the path of

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Speaker 4: resigning him, right. You have to be okay with bringing

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Speaker 4: him in, understanding that one bad injury early in the

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Speaker 4: season can take him out for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 4: You still got to pay that That's that's money that

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Speaker 4: could be allocated elsewhere on the team to be able

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Speaker 4: to operate. Now, factor that in and you look at

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Speaker 4: the tackle class here in the NFL Draft in the

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Speaker 4: first round. I mean, we've we've talked about it many times.

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Speaker 4: There's eight nine guys at the tackle position that can

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Speaker 4: go in the first round. You're sitting there at twenty four,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get a good one. You're gonna get a

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Speaker 4: guy that can plug and play. So you go and

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Speaker 4: you take on that rookie contract at left tackle, and uh,

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Speaker 4: you move on from Tyron Smith and it's it's tough

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Speaker 4: because it's, uh, you know, he's a guy that's been

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Speaker 4: here since twenty eleven and he's brought you a lot

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Speaker 4: of good football. Yeah, and he did a lot last

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Speaker 4: season to be able to show that he can be

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Speaker 4: sustainable and be on the field. Jerry Jones talked about

778
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Speaker 4: in his availability last week how he was fresh going

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Speaker 4: into the playoffs and it was it was huge for

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Speaker 4: the team and if they had made a playoff run,

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Speaker 4: that would have been a big part of it. But

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Speaker 4: I I just don't feel like you can get you

783
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Speaker 4: can get lucky like that and hit on not not

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Speaker 4: being fully healthy every single year going forward for a

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Speaker 4: two to three year contract that you do sign. But

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Speaker 4: we all know what's gonna happen. He's gonna go to

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Speaker 4: Kansas City and play seventeen games next Sharon win a ring,

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Speaker 4: so back.

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Speaker 3: To back to back for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: Yep, goodness, It's it's time to allow for him to

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Speaker 6: see what he can get it's time.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a car that's been good to you.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's had that car R that you have for a while,

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Speaker 6: might have some transmission issues along the way. You know

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Speaker 6: you had the transmission fixed the number of times, right,

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Speaker 6: you kind of got to the mindset where you're like,

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Speaker 6: you know what that transmit it is probably.

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Speaker 5: Gonna go on me at any point, like it just

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Speaker 5: it can go at any moment.

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Speaker 6: And then you have that one good year You're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that training, it did good this past year.

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Speaker 5: And then that good that good price comes up on

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Speaker 5: a new car.

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Speaker 6: Then it's like, dang, do I get Do I get

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Speaker 6: rid of old Faithful that's given me a lot of

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Speaker 6: heartache and it's been good to me.

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Speaker 5: It's lasts a long time.

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Speaker 6: Or do I just go ahead and just turn the

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Speaker 6: keys in and move on.

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Speaker 5: To the new car?

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Speaker 6: And a new car is gonna be different. It's gonna

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Speaker 6: be weird. It's probably not gonna drive the same. It's

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Speaker 6: not gonna have this all the memories. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: have some new memories in this car. You know, we're

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Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna generate some new memories. It's time to

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Speaker 6: get rid of the old training, the old transmission, gotta go. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, it had a good year, but historically it

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Speaker 6: hasn't been great to you. You know what I'm saying

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Speaker 6: in terms of dependability, and I think that's where you're

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Speaker 6: at with the Tyrant.

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Speaker 5: He's been great to you, He's been great to you.

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Speaker 5: He's had his issues though, you know, he's had his issues.

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Speaker 6: You know, dependability is availability in this league, and he

824
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Speaker 6: hasn't necessarily always been that, and that's not to his fault.

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Speaker 6: It just is what it is. I had those issues

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Speaker 6: when I played in the league. I wasn't always available

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Speaker 6: to the Cowboys. I wish I was, you know, but

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Speaker 6: I had my injury. So sometimes you got to move on,

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Speaker 6: you know. And I think that's where the Cowboys are at.

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Speaker 6: As much as that's gonna hurt, you know, you move on.

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Speaker 6: You moved on from Randy Gregory moved on from him,

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Speaker 6: and there are certain guys you just, you know, regardless

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Speaker 6: of the reasoning, it's time to move on. And I

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Speaker 6: think with the Transmission that he has, it's time. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And you let him go see that, you give him

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Speaker 6: that freedom, and I think that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Hey go see, Yeah, and you truthfully wish him the best,

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Speaker 4: Like he goes and he plays seventeen games for this

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Speaker 4: be awesome. I'd love to talk about that.

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Speaker 6: It's a young man's game, yeah, and he knows that, right,

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Speaker 6: and they know that, and it's just you come to

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Speaker 6: a head.

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Speaker 5: It's just like, well, I got some tread left. I

844
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Speaker 5: see that.

845
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Speaker 6: But I mean I just put the tester on your

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Speaker 6: tires playing and it's not a lot of tread there.

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't get over the fact that you're

848
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Speaker 3: comparing an a time pro bowler to a absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I'm just new transmissions. I mean, you know everything.

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Speaker 6: Engines are running better now, like they're stronger, the putting

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Speaker 6: out more horse apple.

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Speaker 3: Car play fish a great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there's just certain like you might have.

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Speaker 3: Some bow speakers in there, Like you love it great,

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Speaker 3: you love it, and you really don't want to move

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Speaker 3: from heated seeds.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to move on fro him. But it's

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Speaker 5: like these features are.

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Speaker 4: Nice, Yeah, that athleticism. Looking for Jordan Morgan. He's been

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Speaker 4: available last four years in Arizona.

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Speaker 6: I mean this thing, this thing wasn't it was a

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Speaker 6: specimist thing, was an excursion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this didn't exist back in twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: The excursions were amazing. They still run great.

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Speaker 6: It's Ford Excursions still run great, right, but they're not

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Speaker 6: efficient Ford.

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Speaker 3: I still need an SUV, large sized SUV that can

868
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Speaker 3: fit a triple trailer stroller just in case.

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Speaker 6: But if Ford seems or something, they're not going to

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Speaker 6: send you an excursion. They discontinued that model.

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Speaker 3: Is there really has great?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely that thing?

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Speaker 3: Was it an expedition? Is that the big one, that's

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Speaker 3: the that's.

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Speaker 5: Their expedition x LT now is their big boy.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. But Excursion.

877
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 6: They came out with Excursion and it was big boy,

878
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 6: V eight, V ten some of them, and it was awesome,

879
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 6: but they just they had some issues.

880
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah they're they're whore horses, yeah.

881
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 5: But they have some issues and they weren't dependable. So what

882
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: do they do? They shut it down?

883
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: Right AnyWho offensive line.

884
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: So if you're getting rid of Tyron Smith, which both

885
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: of you guys are, okay letting him walk, I'm in

886
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 3: that same category. I think he's done a phenomenal job

887
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: of fighting through some of these late injuries over the

888
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: last couple of years. But it's just it's come to

889
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 3: the point where it's hamstringing you from moving forward.

890
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: You can't rish your hat off.

891
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: That's what it is, because you can't. Even if you

892
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: take an offensive lineman in the first round, are you

893
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: going to get immediate impact from that first round first

894
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 3: round offensive lineman?

895
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: Probably not.

896
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: Maybe four or five games a year if Tyrone Smith's unavailable.

897
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: But it's hamstringing you, you're you're unable to use it.

898
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: So I'm okay with it. It saves you on the cap,

899
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: it gives you a better look to the future with

900
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, and then whoever you would end up drafting.

901
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: It does, however, pigeonhole you in that first round, that

902
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: twenty fourth overall if you let Tyron Smith walk. That's

903
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: the one thing that's really a knock is now you're

904
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 3: most likely going to take an offensive tackle.

905
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: I don't think it's definitive though, Okay, because you have

906
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 4: it never never is.

907
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

908
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have one option that is sitting on the

909
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: team currently, and that's whether Tyler Beiottish Walks or not.

910
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: Left tackle Tyler Smith, left guard TJ.

911
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 5: Bass.

912
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: Okay, they've been working him at that position. Talking about

913
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: TJ Bass since since camp last year. Now talking about

914
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: bubble guts. That would give me bubble guts. Don't give

915
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 4: me wrong center and center. You're either working with Tyler

916
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: Biottish or brock offfan or whoever you pick up right

917
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: guard of Zach Martin Wright tackle Terrence Steele. Now do

918
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: I love that situation? Absolutely not.

919
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 5: I do not.

920
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: I would. I think Tyler Smith is the best left

921
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 4: guard in the NFL three years from now. I think

922
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 4: he's he's going to have all pro perennial type potential.

923
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: I think if you throw them that left tackle, he's

924
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: still gonna be really good. But I don't think you

925
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 4: can get what you can get out of him at

926
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: left guard and draft a tackle here in the first round.

927
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I don't think it's definitive. I could

928
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: see a big shiny object sitting there at twenty four, like,

929
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 4: get it, a Brian Thomas junior or an Xavier Worthy

930
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: get it, and they draft him?

931
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 5: Please?

932
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: Those are those are not offensive lineman.

933
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 5: Get office linemen, yeah, get.

934
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: Those are skills players.

935
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 5: Get the shiny officeive lineman.

936
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: Okay, that's just a big shiny offensive line, the big

937
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: shiny Yeah. So the cyber truck, the big shiny is

938
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 4: that that's what I want it.

939
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: Last year the trun I really wish they would.

940
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: Have did that.

941
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: The cyber truck is Marius Mems out of Georgia. That

942
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 4: would be that'd be the cyber truck.

943
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 6: But don't get that, then get get the big shiny

944
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 6: office of lineman that is sitting there at twenty four.

945
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you wait, because.

946
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 6: There's going to be a run on receivers and quarterbacks

947
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 6: and everything else, you're gonna have some options.

948
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: There's going to be a very shiny object sitting there

949
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: at twenty four. That's not an offensive lineman. And if

950
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: they I wouldn't put it past the front office. No,

951
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past they did

952
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: it last year. Did what last year? Smith was not

953
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: the big I don't really.

954
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: Think there were any big shiny objects. I think that

955
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: was just they felt like they needed defensive run help

956
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: and that Monzie gave them the best opportunity.

957
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: If they were taking a big shiny object, they would

958
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 4: have taken Sam Laporta.

959
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really loved Saporta too.

960
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: But you look at Ceedee Lamb and that was a

961
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 4: big shiny object. The needs going into that draft and

962
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: he was sitting there. They took the shiny object. Michael Parsons,

963
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: there's kind of an aspect to that as well. It's

964
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 4: not it's not on the level of lamb, but that

965
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: was a big shiny object where there probably could have

966
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: been some needs elsewhere.

967
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: And everybody like an off ball linebacker and they're like,

968
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: what are you doing taking hop ball linebacker at twelve tackle?

969
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. Look, I understand. I'm just saying,

970
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: don't marry yourself to it because.

971
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: They don't take a tackle tackling.

972
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 6: I'm tackling everybody in the front office.

973
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: Deal sounds good, all right, sounds that sounds like a.

974
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: What was it?

975
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 3: What was that commercial? It was like it was yeah,

976
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: it was office linebacker. Yeah, uh yeah. I I just

977
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: don't you talk about bubble guts. Week four, you're going

978
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 3: on the road to play San Francisco. I don't even

979
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: know who the opponents are next year, but you play

980
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: San Francisco.

981
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, there you go.

982
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: Week four, San Francisco. You've got your offensive linemen of

983
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, TJ. Bass, brock Hoffman, Zach Martin, and Terrence

984
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: Steele going out there to block the San Francisco front seven.

985
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: I would rather throw up.

986
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 4: God forbid, there's an injury up front, and then you

987
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 4: got to figure out what's going on.

988
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: That then awesome Richards is playing at left tackle with TJ. Bass.

989
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 6: Okay, go get it, get please, just please, just just

990
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 6: don't even play around, like, don't even play around.

991
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: And there's an opportunity in free agency as well to

992
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 4: get not not a towoy dog get type talent, but

993
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: like a too money wise to be able to throw

994
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: a guy that's that's a center of value and get.

995
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 5: Your if there.

996
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 6: I don't know what the center market is, but I'm

997
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 6: hoping that they can get a veteran.

998
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: It's not very good.

999
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: I don't think they need a center. Yeah, well the

1000
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: center market is not bad. It's not horrible.

1001
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: Man.

1002
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: It's Tyler and Connor Williams. And you kind of know

1003
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: what you have in both of those guys up top.

1004
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 3: There are two of the top center Lloyd Cushion Barry

1005
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: would be fun.

1006
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Connor mc govern Yeah, there you go. We'll

1007
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 4: clap Matt Hennessey, Tyler Larson.

1008
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: Is that that is that jets? Connor McGovern the center

1009
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 3: actual Connor mc governess. Yeah, so that's different than your.

1010
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: But I think I think if you're going in free agency,

1011
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: I don't think centers where you need to focus a

1012
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: lot of attention.

1013
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 5: I think it's not.

1014
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: I think it's tackle. Even if you are drafting a

1015
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 4: tackle in the first round, you need to tackle depth

1016
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: and you saw that last year. You needed it bad.

1017
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: You think, if if Tyron Smith, this will be the

1018
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: last one before we really wrap up. But do you

1019
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: feel like getting letting Tyran and Smith walk would make

1020
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: it more likely to be bring Tyler Biottish back.

1021
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: Yes, I think so too.

1022
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, because then you at least have some

1023
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: level of continuity on your offensive line. You're not having

1024
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: to replace two individuals, You're only replacing one.

1025
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 4: I'll offer this point to that though. We've talked about

1026
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: the running game with so many members of the front

1027
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: office since the since the season ended, and how the

1028
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: running game was not up to the standard this past season. Now,

1029
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: when you talk about Tony Pollard, it's spoken in a

1030
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: high light. It's like, hey, you know, towards the back

1031
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: end of the year, he really found a stride. We

1032
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: feel like he had a great year, a thousand yard season.

1033
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: Coming off of that injury. We feel like he had

1034
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 4: a great year quote from Jerry Jones last year last week.

1035
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: So when you talk about the running game, it's always, yeah,

1036
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: we felt like Tony had a great year. Could he

1037
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: have had a better year? Probably so. But you know,

1038
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: it's not just the running back. It's what's in front

1039
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: of him and what's blocking for him. And so that

1040
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: implies that you really have to make changes up front.

1041
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: And that does not mean getting rid of Tyron Smith,

1042
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 4: because Tyron Smith was not the problem in the run game.

1043
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: So you got to figure that one out and figure

1044
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: out what you can swallow as far as going into

1045
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: the season and being okay with that in the run game,

1046
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a huge, huge overhaul with

1047
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: that run game. Over the course of the next three

1048
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 4: to four weeks. We're gonna have a really good idea

1049
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: of what that will look like in twenty twenty four. Unfortunately,

1050
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: because I really like watching Tony Pollard, I don't think

1051
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: it involves Tony Pollard.

1052
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, any thoughts.

1053
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 5: I think it depends on who you pick up.

1054
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 6: I think there's obviously we live with this with this

1055
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 6: show talking about how much how many available options there

1056
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 6: are for the running back position. It's probably the greatest

1057
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 6: class in terms of free agency ever. There's a lot

1058
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 6: of them. I mean almost every team could get to

1059
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 6: have to have. The NFL can get a started running

1060
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 6: back right now. So I think there's options, and I

1061
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 6: think there's situations where TP comes up as it comes

1062
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 6: back as a as a two hit A monster.

1063
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: Would love that as long as it's a deal.

1064
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that's.

1065
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: All the way he's gonna be.

1066
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 6: I mean, all these running backs are available. They're not

1067
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 6: all getting solid deals now.

1068
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: So if anything, they think there's gonna be a lot

1069
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: of all being out there makes the value down.

1070
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of value out there, so

1071
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 6: I play great chance for a lot of teams, not

1072
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 6: just the Cowboys, to walk away with a nice two

1073
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 6: headed monster.

1074
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1075
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1076
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: The draft class is really awesome as well running back.

1077
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: So you know, I think if you pay a guy

1078
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 4: on Day two with one of these free agents, you're

1079
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: cooking with gas.

1080
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: Yep.

1081
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: I think so, well, we'll see exactly what happens between

1082
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: now and next Tuesday. I feel like when we hit

1083
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: the earwaves on Talking Cowboys next Tuesday, we're gonna have

1084
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 3: a lot to catch up on and we'll have a

1085
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: pretty good idea of what this off season is going

1086
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: to look like.

1087
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 5: He starts right after our show, right, it.

1088
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: Starts the next day. The next day, we'll have the

1089
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 4: tampering period. We'll have the tampering period is going on

1090
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: on Monday, so.

1091
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: We'll be able to see agreed to terms and who's

1092
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: gonna stay and who the tag deadlines today, so that

1093
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: that's pretty much done and nobody's getting tagged across the move.

1094
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: It's gonna be crazy offseason.

1095
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Speaker 3: It will be a crazy offseason.

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Speaker 4: Buckle up, and we'll be here through it all another day.

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Speaker 4: Another dollar, Isaia to stand back.

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Speaker 3: All right, for Chris Beam, for Isaiah stand Back who

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Speaker 3: climbed Mount Kiliman Jarrow and gave a well of freshwater

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Speaker 3: to a village in Africa. To Nick Harris, who went

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Speaker 3: to Indianapolis Combine and kicked ass out at the Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: Combine brought back a ton of content to talk about

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Speaker 3: on the Draft show that comes up at eleven. And

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Speaker 3: to me who did absolutely nothing except that she did

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Speaker 3: see my beautiful wife give us three babies. That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's what we had. That does it for us here

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Speaker 3: talking Cowboys. We'll see you next week.

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