WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Previewing Cowboys vs. Panthers 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.120 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:16.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.280 Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:31.560 the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broudis, 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:37.440 Rob Phillips and Bill Jones and Hallelujah, it is a 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:43.080 football Friday. I love football Fridays. We get you set 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:49.320 for Cowboys Panthers on Sunday. And I love high school football, 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.280 I love college football. I love the NFL. And we 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.400 got a little dose of the NFL last night. We've 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.960 got no Mickey again today, so he's out the whole week, 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.360 but hopefully Mickey will be back on Monday. Bill Jones 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.480 with Brian brought us and Rob Phillips, Rob, do you 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.360 get some maroon on over there? A little bit of 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.679 a touch of maroon? It's a big aggie weekend, isn't it? 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.160 Is it? I mean, yeah, they're hosting the Clemson Tigers. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.120 We're on game day. That's pretty cool. Yeah, and then 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.560 once kickoff starts, I don't know how cool it's gonna be. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.880 So do you do you wish that the Cowboys were 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.399 playing at home this weekend, so you could make it 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.399 down to Aggie Land and take in that game on Saturday. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.800 If the Cowboys were at home, I would be there 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.000 on Saturday. You would be Yes, I would. I would 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.760 pay for Aggie but kicking that we're about to get 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.880 on Saturday night. But you know what, you sound just 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.520 like me watching LSU play. Oh, I'm the worst when 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.840 it comes to my team, and I always always feel 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.720 something disastrous as now. Oh, I've always liked that. My 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.840 brother in law give us me who's a Texas Tech fan, 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.960 so he prepared every week to lose. Yeah, prepared to 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.280 prepared to scored sixty. And he always gives me a 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.680 hard time because I always say, it doesn't matter. We're 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.640 playing Florida Atlantic. Let's doing You know, we got Lane 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.920 Kiffin over there. You know we may not be able 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.440 to handle this one. You know, I think it could 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.360 go either way. We got Chip Kelly and UCLA by 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.320 the way, you got the Bruins. Yeah, you know they 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.639 didn't look very good the other day playing. But yeah, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.960 but he's gonna be a tough game. Yeah you got through, 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.200 you know, mind you so much like Lou Holtz. Lou 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.120 Holtz used to be. You know, they played Navy and 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.920 they'd beaten Navy like forty consecutive year. This is one 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.239 of the best Navy teams I've ever Yeah, lou you 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.880 lost him in forty years. Who's ls you got? They 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.919 met nobody Southwest Scott, I mean nobody because it's a 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.519 short week. Yeah, we're one of the directional Louisiana. Southeast Louisiana, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.160 South Southeast Louisiana's one of that. Yeah. Southwest Louisiana is 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.400 now Louisiana. Yeah. Yeah, So Southeastern Louisia got one of them. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.239 You got MacNeice or somebody. We have Southeastern Louisiana. We 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.200 got the name. We got Auburn next week, all right, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.040 we got Cowboys and Panthers. Did y'all watch much of 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.200 the Eagles last night? First? I kind of kept a 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.480 little bit of an eye on it, just up until 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.800 the half, and then I lost interest after that, and 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.560 then I can't. It's funny because I took that for you. Yeah, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.400 I went to sleep and I woke up just in 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.240 time to watch the final series. Yea, the final drop. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.440 You need to watch that game. And it was crazy 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.800 because I'm thinking, come on, Steve star kissing you can 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.160 call better plays than this, and no he can't. So 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.800 the Falcons got what they deserved at the end of 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.280 the game. You know that, you just basically I got 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.440 home about the same time. Maybe they were throwing for 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.360 the end zone. Yeah, if you don't have a good plan, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.120 if you don't have a good plan in the red zone, 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.600 then you're gonna probably have problems and probably lose games. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.960 And that happened to Atlanta. It's it's a shame that 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.320 they didn't learn their lesson, but they they didn't. That's 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.640 why they took an ll. I tuned out after thirteen 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.120 penalties in the first half, and I kind of kicked 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:46.960 myself a little bit because I didn't think we'd see 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.880 the Philly Special. Ever again, I didn't. I didn't think 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.520 was it the same Philly Special? The same but it 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.800 was more like the Brady play, the pass play, the 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.160 Patriot's head in the Super Bowl. It was. I just 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.200 I never thought Nick Foles would catch another pass in 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.880 his Eagles career. I thought, you know, everybody would have 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.400 that scouted. But apparently, if I want to ask you this, 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.680 so you feel, just watching what you've seen, you feel 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.160 we were pretty I think we were all talking about 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.839 Philly being the best team in the division, Philly being 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.039 the team that you have to kind of watch. You know, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.720 Dallas will be behind Philly. You know, do you feel 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.320 a second, who do we pick yesterday? No, No, I'm 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.080 talking about I'm asking Rob and myself here. I'm just 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.920 kind of looking at Rob saying that right now. Well, yeah, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.000 I mean they struggled to move the football last night. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.200 Kind of the preseason, they had that problem moving the 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.839 ball in the preseason. You said that, and Chris Collinsworth 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.839 said that last night. Um, the questions. You know, Falls 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.640 obviously is a folk hero there now. But well they 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.000 maybe not now. I mean because the Lusters come off 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.400 that super Blay did they didn't win last night? Started 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.440 the Lusters come off a little bit. The boot Birds 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.520 came out of half. They were going them off the 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.680 field at halftime. You know, if Carson Wentz is gonna 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.560 need some time to get back, That's that's interesting. That's 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.040 what I'm thinking. Maybe, you know, I was My I 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.680 thought was, okay, that you're gonna get Carson Wentz back. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.240 It's not going to be one of these three or 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.400 four game things. You're gonna you know, have him back 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.440 in a couple of weeks. But you know, the Eagles 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.960 very well could be a team that offensively, Now, defensively 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.760 they're really good. Yeah, they are good defensively, but you know, offensively, 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.680 I mean, that was that's a lot like what we've 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.680 seen in the preseason from them. And if Nick Foles, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:24.920 you know, if you're a Cowboy fan, you got to 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.599 hope that you know, last night could have been a 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.159 loss for them, and it wasn't. But if Nick Foles 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.960 has to continue playing only averages like four yards a throw, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.400 then you know, maybe you feel pretty good about you know, Dallas, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.240 I just didn't. I said, yes, I just don't see 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.760 Philadelphia running away with this thing like they did last year. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:42.720 I don't see them rolling off. And that was the 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.600 way I picked. That's one of the reasons I picked 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.280 Dallas yesterday is because I just don't think Philadelphia is 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.320 I like the way they've constructed their roster and so forth. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.360 But you know, even you know, al Shan Jeffrey's coming 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.240 off his injury or surgery or whatever he had, they 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.040 didn't have him last night. They're things are not going 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.960 to fall into place like they did. They're going to 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.480 have to really scram But when they had injuries last year, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.520 Foles stepped up his game. We saw more what Nick 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.440 Foles is really like I think last night. Yeah, absolutely, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.720 And you know, now, how long are they going to 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.320 be without wins? I mean that injury occurred and it 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.679 was not your typical ACL injury. No, and it happened 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.960 very late in the season, and you know they may 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.719 not have him for another month. It knows they're not 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.160 going to sneak up on anybody either. And Cowboys kind 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.480 of found that out last year coming off thirteen wins, 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.800 that everybody's gunning for you. It is a first place 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.560 schedule for them this year as opposed to absolutely the 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.480 third and fourth a year ago. Sure. Yeah, it's going 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.960 to be more difficult for sure. All is hard to 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.360 maintain the NFCS. There's rarely you got back to back champs. Yeah, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.600 I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you have to 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.720 feel a little bit better about the situation. You know 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.360 that that means Dallas is going to have to go 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.120 out and take care of their business too. Yeah, this 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.039 first month we talked about it. Yeah, you can't go 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.640 to Caroline and flop around and figure out, you know, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.359 lose the game by doing some stupid You know, you 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.280 have to do better. If Caroline's gonna beat you, make 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.040 Carolina beat you because their players are better. Don't do 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.720 anything stupid to cost you this game. So we'll break 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.920 down further and get our final thoughts on Cowboys Panthers 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.880 over the course of the next hour. Here when you 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.800 look at the Cowboys and what's going on with this 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.080 team right now? Today, Travis Frederick talked for the first 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.960 time yesterday since the announcement came out a little over 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.320 two weeks ago of the gee and bar a syndrome. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.760 After hearing him talk, any I don't know that it 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.880 cleared up anything because he didn't know and the doctors 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.040 don't know what's going on with him right Well, that 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.440 is true, and that's gonna I think the way it's 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.040 going to continue to roll. They've they've we talked about 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.800 this um. They they're keeping him on the active list 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.160 and if you know, if things approve in the next three, 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.720 four or five weeks and you can kind of get 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.160 things go in the right direction for him. As far 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.640 as getting back on the practice field, well, that was 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.080 a gamble that was worth and I and I don't 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.680 mean to use the word gamble in like they're gambling 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.800 with his health. I mean they're gambling that, you know. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.520 And listen to him talk and listen to him on 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.840 the Bin and Skin show, you know, he feels like 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.160 he felt like, excuse me, that he caught this early 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.720 enough that they feel like that they can they could 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.880 treat this and he can get some of his strength 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.120 back and work his way back and there's no paralysis 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.640 and things like that. There's still some loss of feeling 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.960 and things like that, but they he at least feels 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.320 positive that, hey, we caught this at the right time. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.839 Now let's see if the treatments and all that will 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.280 take take hold. And that's what's great for his long 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.599 term health is that, like you said, that potential for 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.400 paralysis the longer you wait, that's great prognosis long term 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.800 for him. Now it's the question of it. They're not 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.560 going to rush him back, so how long does it take. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.480 He has no idea at this point, and I don't 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.480 think the Cowboys do either. I mean, he said he's 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.240 still got some numbness in his hands and his feet, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.280 and but he is going to progress to some weightlifting, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.760 which is, which is good. He's he's doing some active things. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.959 There's just no way to tell right now. Yeah, and 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.679 really he may not know exactly what he can do 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.280 until he is able to do some physical exertion. Yea. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.800 On that level, you know, when you're talking about him 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.839 eventually getting back to being an NFL player, obviously it's 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.719 a far beyond what we have to do on a 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.040 base right. This is a tough game. It's tough for 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.480 any games for him to miss for the Cowboys because 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.079 what he means to the team and you know, and 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.719 into the scheme. But when you talk about how this 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.480 game could very well hinge, you know, and I just 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.680 look at matchups and if you know, if if Connor 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.880 Williams and Joe Looney and I don't worry much about 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.520 Zack Martin. I think Zach Martin holds up fine. I 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.559 just worry about Okay, can Joe Looney? You know. And 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.320 they're not gonna win every snap they're him and Connor 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.360 Williams are not gonna win every snap against short. They're 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.760 not gonna win every snap against Luke Keikley. But you 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.040 don't need them to lose at key point in time 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.319 if it's a key down in distance if it's a 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.600 key third one, or it's a key third and two, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.199 or it's a key third and seven where they're trying 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.839 to you know, they have a good play call, but 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.040 all of a sudden they give up inside pressure and 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.040 guy's open. Cole Beasley's open, but they can't get him 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.959 the ball. You know, don't don't expect these guys to 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.680 win every snap, but I mean, I'm talking about Looney 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.920 and Williams, but they just they don't need to lose 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.800 every snap. That's that would be that would be devastating 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.520 to this offense if that happens. You know, when you 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:31.160 saw Connor Williams and the short sample against Geno Atkins 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.760 in the pre season, what did you think and how 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.240 does that compare with what he faces against It's gonna 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:38.920 be a test for him. This is gonna be a 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.280 test because what we've always talked about with Connor Williams, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.160 it wasn't the athletic ability or the mental capability. Those 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.000 things are fine. Where he's going to struggle as he's 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.080 gonna when he struggles against power. That's when he deals 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.360 with a guy that's got some quickness, that has some power. Now, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.240 The problem is, you know, you have Joe Looney on 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.800 the other side of him. That's he He's trying to think, Okay, 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.200 what do I have to do in this game? Oh 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:03.840 my gosh, you got Luke Keickley over there. I gotta 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.319 find you know, I gotta block him. I think, No, 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.960 Thomas Davis really hurts helps the Cowboys here by the way, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:14.719 him being suspended, you know, top linebacker for sure. But 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.280 but Luke keik we still I just worry about if 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.800 you said it was Frederick playing the center, you could 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.400 then say, Okay, he's gonna be okay because he knows, 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.599 he knows how to get through this. He could not 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.760 only do his assignment, but he can do your assignment too. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:30.880 And I wonder if that might be just a little 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.880 bit too much for Joe Looney to have to do 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.920 his assignment and maybe help a little bit. But to 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.600 answer your question, though, it's it's the power, it's the quickness. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.600 That's the things that tend to throw Connor Williams off. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.719 He'll learn, he'll get stronger, he'll get better, and as 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.319 the game wears on, you know, he very well. He 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.439 could get in a situation where every snap he's winning, 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.760 and that would be a great thing for the Cowboys 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.880 because you know, Kauan short, he could wreck their running game, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.720 he could wreck their passing game if if, if, in fact, 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.760 he gets on a roll and you put that guy 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.800 that under tackle and he's inside on Dak Prescott before 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.839 you note, I asked Zach Martin about the transition that 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.160 he made as a rookie and what Connor made is 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.839 making this year tackle left tackle to guard in the NFL, 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.000 and he just said it simply, It's just things happen. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.240 Quicker guys are up on you faster inside, and so 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.640 we see Connor's a great athlete. He is terrific. I 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.280 got a great feat. But yeah, you know, you got 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.640 big defensive lineman coming at you quickly, and you've got 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.319 to be able to set and have your leverage and 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.520 be able to hold you hold your ground, and yeah, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.679 that's that might be a working I hesitate to make 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.719 the comparisons though, between Connor Williams and Zach Martin, just 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.080 just based on what they did in college too, because 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.240 Zach was a four year guy, right, he was okay. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.600 Connor Williams was a three year he and he missed 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.920 a lot of time his last year, he's facing Big 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.400 twelve defenses, and and I know the reputation about the 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.719 Big twelve, but I'm not talking about the personnel so 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.160 much as the scheme in the Big twelve as compared, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.400 it doesn't duplicate what he faces in the NFL. Zack 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.120 Martin at Notre Dame over a four year career, saw 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.640 a little bit more of that. He was better prepared 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.360 for starting day one in the NFL from his college experience, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.800 I think than Connor Williams. Yeah, you know, this is 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.880 clearly a plug and play player, though right exactly, I'm 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.360 not saying he shouldn't be in he is. He is 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.679 a plug and play player, and you know that's the 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.559 thing there. This team has had great success of taking 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.000 lineman that are first round guys on their board and 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.520 drafting them and then you know, and making it work. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.240 So uh, you know, I'm I just look at that. 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.160 I think there's really some really good matchups throughout. But 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.120 I think their matchups that both Carolina and Dallas can 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.679 win against each other. You say, Okay, cross that off, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.200 cross that off, cross that off. You know a better 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.640 Jalen Smith. Now what we've seen with Jalen Smith is 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.120 a good matchup if you're talking about what you're having 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.840 to do with the running backs with Christian McCaffrey. There, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.640 if you had last year's Jalen Smith playing against Christian 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.400 McCaffrey early in the season, you would have been like, Okay, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.360 Dallas is going to lose this matchup, right totally, you know. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.240 And movement, yeah, you got you know, and you know, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.040 let's see. I mean, Layton vander Esch has been practicing 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.480 quite a bit now. I mean, they they're getting him involved. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.640 Can you play him encourage? That's one of his strengths. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.800 You know. Damien Wilson has been really good in training camp. 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.200 They're blitzing him now and doing things with him. We 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.640 saw it in the in the Texans game. There's things 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.600 you could do with these these players. I think there's 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.680 just more okay, wash wash wash. You know, you could 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.000 kind of go through and just say, boy, good team, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.360 good team, good team. Yeah, that kind of way. But 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.800 then there's some things you could say, Okay, well, now 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:48.720 you've got a All Pro Pro Bowl defensive tackle, you know, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.000 going up against a rookie who tends to struggle when 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:56.440 he does struggle, you know, one of short strength is 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.040 Connor William's weakness. So that's if it comes down to 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.800 one or two, and maybe Connor Williams will shine in 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.720 this thing. Maybe Kawan Short will struggle and he won't 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.720 be able to get all blocks and he won't be 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.240 able to use this quickness. But if you just look 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.040 at if you just look at position by position by position, 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.560 that's the one that really catches my eye. And then 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.000 you look at the next one and you say, okay, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.840 oh wait, you don't have your all pro center, but 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.160 you have a guid that's a capable backup. In any 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.680 other week he might be okay, But now you're thinking 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.400 about Luke Keikley on the other side, and now Luke 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.400 Keikley running sideline. Sign if you don't get somebody to 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.560 Luke Keikley, we know he can make every single tackle. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.960 But I know that Travis Frederick can get to Luke Keikley. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.000 I don't know if Joe Looney can't get to Luke 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.200 Keikley on a regular basis. When you see done Terry Poe, okay, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.960 and his effect on this Carolina defense relates to, Okay, 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.440 you got Keikley behind him, Yeah, okay, And when he 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.480 was at Atlanta, he had fast linebackers behind him. Now 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.280 he was a three four nose tack in Kansas City, right, 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:06.280 he has from a Carolina perspective, he has a very 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.240 positive effect I think on their defense and what getting 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.480 their playmakers in position to continue. There's no question. There's 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.160 no question about that. And I mean it's the you know, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.880 I think that, you know, to me, it's this is 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.360 gonna come down. And I'm writing this for Dallas Cowboys 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.640 dot Com today for the Cowboys because if it was 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.600 Travis Frederick, if Travis Fernick was in there, that would 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.240 be one of my wash you know, that'll be a wash. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.600 You know. Now I can't say wash, you know, because 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.560 I'm thinking advantage Carolina, Advantage Carolina. And what's the one 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.160 thing that Dallas wants to do. Dallas wants to run 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:46.480 the football. I just worry, My biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.480 worry in this game is a Denver situation where all 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.200 of a sudden, it's eight carries for eight yards, can't 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.240 run the ball and everything, and all of a sudden 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.360 they're making maybe they're making plays on your defense, and 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.880 now you're in the whole fourteen nothing and you're having 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.240 to throw your way out of that. You know, that's 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.760 that's that would be what would worry me when you 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.760 play Carolina. Carolina's secondary is not as good, which might 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.040 help you. That's that might I mean, Denver secondary lit 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.280 it up. They were good. But but we're but if 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.040 you cannot and we knew going in they were good, yeah, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.400 if you cannot do we didn't want to hear about 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.399 how good they are. Oh that's true, right, but he 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.040 probably should have listened. But that's that's where hitting some 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.520 plays in the passing game early can help back things 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.480 off a little bit. But then again, now let's talk 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:38.080 about Okay, Carolina's secondary, Dallas receivers. Who you hanging your 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.160 hat on? And that Dallas. That's and that's what I'm 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.040 most anxious to find out. It's finally you're hanging your 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.160 hat on, right, That's what I want to see. Yeah, 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.960 we finally, let's see a rotation. Let's see, you know, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.720 who can step up and make plays. It's Friday before 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.000 the Sunday getting You mean, Witton's not gonna walk through 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.439 that door. No, he's got a Monday night game. He's prepping, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.280 he's got one of those Monday night games. I think 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.760 he's got Jets Jets Detroit. Probably is he doing Rams Raiders. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.479 I'm no, no, no, no, he'll do the first one, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.480 the first one, you know. I think it's such a 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.159 The Rams Raiders is a much better It is a 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.280 better game, and you got Gruden there. Yeah. See, I 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.600 just think you put your number one team on the 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:20.800 Gruden game because although I realize that audience wise, I 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.880 think the Rams Raider game will be a better game myself. Yeah. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.080 If I was not I was calling the shots, I'd 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.399 say her make the East Coast, stay up later and 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.520 put your number one. I love Mike McGan. Mike mckegnan 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.240 at the general manage of the Jets is a dear friend. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.640 I love you, Michael, but I'm not interested in watching 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.800 your football team. Whoa all right? Well though, Sam Darnold, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:47.600 though maybe watching him play. That's the rash. We're watching 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.080 gms and coaches trying to save their job in week one. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.440 We're way ahead of ourselves looking ahead of Monday, though, 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.800 although I do like the fact that first Monday you 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.960 got right doublehead. Let me ask you, guys, since you 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.640 know I act like I know what I'm doing. I'm 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.760 sitting here doing radio. At one time I was scouting, 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.680 but now I'm doing radio with you guys. Where where 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.720 do you see this thing hinging? Where do you Rob Fiel? 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.879 Let's do that. Okay, come back, that's a good team coman. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.160 We'll come back and do that. And I'd like also 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.440 flip it around. And we've sat here and talked about 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:21.119 the Carolina playmakers up and the seven. How about the 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:25.000 Dallas front seven right against a what is a much 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.720 malign now Carolina offensive line. When we come back on 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.479 talking cowboys. It can be hard to find the right 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.119 resource for learning about important financial matters. 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