WEBVTT - ROCCSTAR - Ghetto Casserole

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest. Grammy Award winning producer sold over fifty million records,

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<v Speaker 1>is probably over records. So rock Star producer rock Star

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<v Speaker 1>is in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>And self made? Self made, self made, self made to

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<v Speaker 1>the max, to the max slept on floors. I've heard,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard the rumors. I'm so excited to have you

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<v Speaker 1>in the building. And you're gonna have to feed me,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, so what do you what are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feed me?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing well my broke dish. Really this should be

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<v Speaker 2>Eating while uh broke as hell if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>add that as hell, because I was the ass hell park.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. But right now, this dish ray here is

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<v Speaker 2>called ghetto cast role and it was the chicken top

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<v Speaker 2>ramen mixed in with a turkey burger burger that I

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<v Speaker 2>seasoned up, chopped up, put into the situation, mixed up

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<v Speaker 2>and just changed the world with that guy me I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that had me full for you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the whole day that pretty much was it

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where people just started requesting, let me

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<v Speaker 2>get some ghetto.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh you really named it that. That was like

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<v Speaker 1>the coin name that you gave it back. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had ghetto cast role. I'm very I'm a hater of

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<v Speaker 1>Ramen because we've taped over one hundred and twenty episodes

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody, and I say even people be like I

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<v Speaker 1>thought she hated ram I'm like, I can only block

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<v Speaker 1>Ramen so much in a broke show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I see a Ramen with a flair, I

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<v Speaker 1>really believe that the individual was probably, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>broke as hell. Yeah, you know, you had it so

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<v Speaker 1>many times that you had to up it. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>start off popping it off. And while you're in this

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen cooking, I want you to take me back to

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on when you was broke as hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I mean there's just so many years of

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<v Speaker 2>being broke as hell. Like, which part of being broke

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<v Speaker 2>as hell did you want to have the conversation about,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I mean, I come from absolutely nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was broke as hell the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you from originally?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm from like Los Angeles of course. So California.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've lived all over South Central, all over Inglewood,

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<v Speaker 2>all the trash this I'm like, yeah, but first you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta like you gotta. If you don't do that, it

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<v Speaker 2>don't even taste the same. But we're gonna put that

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<v Speaker 2>over there, because that's what that's gonna be at. I

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<v Speaker 2>lived all over South Central, Inglewood and all over LA

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere in La all you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>then also all over the valley too, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So yeah, yeah until that. My parents were

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<v Speaker 2>married until I was about twelve and then they split.

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<v Speaker 2>So right when I turned into a teenager and started

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<v Speaker 2>going outside, it was yeah, I was dolo, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then did you also always know you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into music?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Nah? Not really. I thought I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an actor, which I ended up being on

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<v Speaker 2>love and hip hop and different stuff. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a version of acting. But I started off, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coming out, you know, and like my my, my mom

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<v Speaker 2>put me into acting and I was the stand up

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<v Speaker 2>comedy champion at Lave Factory for like three years with

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Massada. So Jamie Masada, which was the left he

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<v Speaker 2>put me in and I was young, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>so good that him, Paul Rodriguez and all of them

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<v Speaker 2>put me into the adult camp and I was like ten,

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<v Speaker 2>so ten eleven, twelve, ten eleven, twelve, and like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of thirteen, I was, I was, I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing the stand up comedy. Okay, he as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that got me into like some national commercials

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of teacher Like I start figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>like dang, what's a Coogan account? And obviously being broke

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<v Speaker 2>as hell. My parents were also broke as hell, so

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<v Speaker 2>that Cougan account got cooganed, that got cooked.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that all that money was supposed to protect it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is supposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't work because my dad had the same

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<v Speaker 2>name as me, so he just absolutely mangled wapped my account.

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<v Speaker 2>By time, whatever I had built was whenever I had built,

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<v Speaker 2>it was saram bag. So I did all that work,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was still a good experience, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So, yeah, there's a rap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was it a shocker that you lost the

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<v Speaker 1>money or did you kind of know it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to disappear?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I know, I knew. I knew that I came

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<v Speaker 2>from the type of appearance like I know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You know, when you grow

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<v Speaker 2>up and you like, I'm probably not gonna never see

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<v Speaker 2>this money. By the time I get to this money now,

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<v Speaker 2>I was hustling. I was already out in the streets

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<v Speaker 2>hustling young. So like even when I was done out

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<v Speaker 2>and I just was out there hustling dolo to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where by the time I was like fourteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like making so much money just doing different

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I was doing. And then I was giving my

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<v Speaker 2>mom money, and like they were separate. So I get

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<v Speaker 2>my mom here, take some bands, and she like, how

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<v Speaker 2>you got bands in you? Fourteen fifteen? And I'm handing

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<v Speaker 2>her money. So I was like it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>weird because I always was a hustler. I get straight

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<v Speaker 2>to it. However, it go like ever since I was young,

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<v Speaker 2>I was selling candy or selling this. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>go to ninety nine cent stores, go home, go to

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<v Speaker 2>the school, sell sugar, Daddy, sell the sell that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was always doing something. I was always hustling. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the hustler, Like you come get me when it's time

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<v Speaker 2>to hustle. We don't figure it out. Thus, years later,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously multiple companies, and but but it came from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing. So but for like I I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>good on the hustle, and then I started getting kicked

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<v Speaker 2>out of the schools that I was hustling in, so

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<v Speaker 2>then my money started dropping back down. Whatever, And there

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<v Speaker 2>I was, I was, I was. I was cooking the

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine cent store. However that was happening different situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Said I was just going viral when be in here

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<v Speaker 2>just saying I was doing anything. But we was doing

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stuff. Then I get the bread, I

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<v Speaker 2>get the can't do whatever situation was, and then we'd

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<v Speaker 2>go run it up, run it up, run it up.

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<v Speaker 2>However that happened, and then and I'd be selling it. It

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<v Speaker 2>to be all profits, so I'd be making like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred something a day. Then I started baking. I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm thinking about all the things I'm talking about hustling,

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<v Speaker 2>this shit kind of self incriminated. When I started thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about all this stuff I was doing, liked, am I

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to break that down? Just know I was, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was, I'm like, damgn, I started. I'm like, by

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<v Speaker 2>the time I'm done, y'all be like, dangn we should

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<v Speaker 2>probably cut that out because I was doing all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of I was hustling, I was running plays, I was

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<v Speaker 2>in licks. I was doing all kinds of stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to go through all that. Don't even

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<v Speaker 2>tell aboutself, but I was. It was It was unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got sixteen, I was out the house, like

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<v Speaker 2>my mom. They just I was moving around so much.

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<v Speaker 2>They was like, you want to be grown. Shit hit

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<v Speaker 2>the streets. So I was sleeping in the car. I

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<v Speaker 2>bought it myself a car, start sleeping in a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sixteen, I was hustling nobody. My mom and them

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know I had any talent besides the you know, accomy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because my sister, she was a singer and she like

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<v Speaker 2>the first American idol, and so she they was on

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<v Speaker 2>whatever she was on. I was just in the cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, obviously the way I look, I might

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<v Speaker 2>have cut have been a supermodel or something. But if

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<v Speaker 2>they wasn't thinking about that, it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the hell, Like your parents attention switched to her because.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's been I switched. It was always her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she was always like the one, and then she's super dope.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my like that, that's my heart. She was always

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<v Speaker 2>like just super anointed singing wise, and so she always

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<v Speaker 2>had opportunities and different things going on. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just so should I start cooking? Oh yeah, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>dump that in. But then we gotta get the season

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<v Speaker 2>and so anyway you gotta throw a little season and

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<v Speaker 2>so on there, because it ain't never been a black

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<v Speaker 2>dish without seasoning.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm about to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, what is this we're talking about? Oh but what

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<v Speaker 2>was I saying?

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about your sister was annoyed?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, she was doing her thing right. She was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was winning, She had like she she was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of she was doing amazing. She was winning.

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<v Speaker 2>She won like I think of three hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on one show and another. She's like her voice's next level,

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<v Speaker 2>always been. And so they just was kind of on

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<v Speaker 2>whatever she was on.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just the two of y'all. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as family, I got four four siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's yeah, yeah, that's the gang. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they ain't. Nobody thought I was doing They

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was the fuck up. They like this nigga

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<v Speaker 2>is failing every class you know what I'm saying. They

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<v Speaker 2>like outside in the streets, he just they just knocked

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<v Speaker 2>this nigga out. He just went to jail. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we heard these industry it's all kind of shit. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing all kind of stuff when I was younger, so

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<v Speaker 2>they like, dang, they like he he ain't dot. So

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<v Speaker 2>nobody had faith in me. But you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of like always very good or a

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<v Speaker 2>master at whatever it was I did. So, like the

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<v Speaker 2>crump movement was heavy, so we were like the pioneers.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like the main one of the main people

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<v Speaker 2>out here who was in the mix like and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of created that frequency. So I was like we were dancing,

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<v Speaker 2>and dancing got me in a lot of different rooms too,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I was always so good like flipping, tumbling,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that just was super vicious at dancing. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coming from Tommy to Clown into the crump movement and

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<v Speaker 2>then it being you know, that's when b too, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when like you got served in that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just the biggest thing on earth to know

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<v Speaker 2>how to crump, to know how to so I was

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<v Speaker 2>like in the front of that. So when I was

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<v Speaker 2>out in the streets, Da Dad, I'd be doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be doing smack DVD rat battles. That was another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like my bar game was always crazy. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I was smack DVD rat battles. I was

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<v Speaker 2>running around with like Shug and them type of people

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<v Speaker 2>early when I was fifteen, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Run He had me battling it. I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>mix early, super early. And then you know, I just

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<v Speaker 2>start honing in on everything and I just took it

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<v Speaker 2>to the next level. I don't know it started there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then one thing I've always done is been real

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<v Speaker 2>tapped in with God, like he saved me. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's because I would have got mangled to a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of them times. But He saved me so many times

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<v Speaker 2>just with I felt a lot of grace and favor

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<v Speaker 2>and situations because the people around me was getting molly wopped.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about I'm telling you they was getting molly wopped.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're so sixteen seventeen. So you're sixteen seventeen. What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on in the So you're doing the dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>You went from comedy slash hustling to dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was always dancing even when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>There and you're still struggling. You're still like homeless, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sleeping in.

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<v Speaker 2>Cars, yep, messed up, yep, running the doing a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of nothing. Go from couch to couch to car.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my car broke down on me one night,

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<v Speaker 2>actually because I was trying to stay warm. I was

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping the car and I was trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you be sleeping the car and then you're like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cold ass night. You try and hit the

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<v Speaker 2>gas to like, I was so sleepy from whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>was I was doing that I had fell asleep up

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<v Speaker 2>under this little thing and I had hit the gas

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<v Speaker 2>and I was trying to warm up the car, and

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<v Speaker 2>I fell asleep with the car with my foot on

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<v Speaker 2>the gas, and I woke up in exhaust, like the

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<v Speaker 2>whole car was in exhaust fumes, and the engine was

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<v Speaker 2>just rocking left and right. Whoa, and I'm like dang,

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<v Speaker 2>and somebody hit my window like boom boom, like yo,

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<v Speaker 2>get out the car, bro get out the car, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I jumped out. He like, bro, you just stayed

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<v Speaker 2>in that car. You was gonna die. The car was

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<v Speaker 2>going to explode. Are you crazy? Like what do you

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<v Speaker 2>got going up? And so that was a moment where

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up having to, you know, like call my

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<v Speaker 2>I think I called my dad and he lived in

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego the time, and I was like, yo, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, y'all ain't the ones. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. I know I don't mess with y'all

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<v Speaker 2>on this, that and the third like that, But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to It's either that or I'm gonna app

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna like, I'm out the car now, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be on the street. So it's either that or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be I'm about to have to go. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about to have to go level up like I was going.

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<v Speaker 2>It was gonna turn into something else. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>it was gonna go from the car to a next level.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna go to the next level ship. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm just telling you, like early why this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be. So he was like all right, man

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<v Speaker 2>like man like, my my wife is this and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just come whatever. And then I went to San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>And from when I got to San Diego, I stayed

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<v Speaker 2>there for a little bit like six months and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yo, let's get back to it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went back to it. But you know, I skipped

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<v Speaker 2>you know who I skipped. When I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to stay on my boy, Ruben Cannon's couch,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Nick Cannon's younger brother, and so I had

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<v Speaker 2>that was my best friend, Ruben and his brother Nick Cannon,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he was getting all that, Like Nick would

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<v Speaker 2>just put them up because they came to and so

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<v Speaker 2>they had little apartment in the middle of Hollywood, was

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<v Speaker 2>run down, but all of us it was like seven

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<v Speaker 2>of us in one bedroom. It was all in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But Ruben really looked out for me when I was

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<v Speaker 2>younger too, like just he was a solid. That was

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<v Speaker 2>one of my solid hommies. But Ruben Cannon, Ruben Cannon

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the ones I can't. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about everybody else, but Ruben that's.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the ones. But yeah, one of my favorites

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, personally, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one that's my brother like for him different.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you know, I always like super appreciated when

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<v Speaker 2>anybody did anything for me, because nobody did nothing for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So we can, you know, let me go and you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get to it. I don't know if y'all can

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<v Speaker 2>see this, but you gotta throw that on there. It

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<v Speaker 2>ain't even you gotta get it well because that's where

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<v Speaker 2>the flavors start acting different, because you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>get to cooking stuff, it be I'm just telling you

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<v Speaker 2>how my ghetto care thro I was doing something else.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a different conversation. What was what was we

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<v Speaker 2>said you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was talking about before you ended up in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>You was staying with Reuben.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all was staying with Ruby yup, yep yep as

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<v Speaker 2>a young and I was. I was messed up early.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was looking at when I was like fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>How did y'all know each other? You guys? Wood? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hollywood High and so you know, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>performing arts schools because my mom and them. That's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I could be thankful for my mom and then

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<v Speaker 2>put me in performing arts schools, which opened me up

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<v Speaker 2>to plays, musicals, choir classes. So like most niggas in

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<v Speaker 2>the hoods going to school, revelopment, they choir class was

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<v Speaker 2>a fade in the bathroom. My my, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>like that's where niggas day was you going to Dorsea.

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<v Speaker 2>You going to Chris, Are you going to you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, different joints. I was like the Hamilton's,

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<v Speaker 2>the Hollywoods. It was still wicked. We'd be getting it.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be riots and aughty, we'd be getting in this.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I was like, it was

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<v Speaker 2>weird because you be in choir class with other gang

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<v Speaker 2>members and others, you know, and we in quire classes

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<v Speaker 2>quare clabs, but we really creating food blown everything, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy because creation is creation for what you chose

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<v Speaker 2>to do. If you're a creator and you next level,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're gonna create on that level. So and we're

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<v Speaker 2>always in competition.

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<v Speaker 1>So so when you're in these classes with other gang

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<v Speaker 1>members or rival gangs. Everybody was getting along during choir

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<v Speaker 1>and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean because in school, it's like it's school,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, You get into situations and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, back then it was kind of like there

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<v Speaker 2>was a green light on the Blacks from the eighteens

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, So it was all kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>going on. So we kind of was sticking together and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was just in the mix. It was because it

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<v Speaker 2>was all kind of it was that's a long story.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, you know, it was it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot going on. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of war work, but in terms of school, like dance,

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<v Speaker 2>like choir, like different things that we was doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was. Yeah, we was. We was in

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<v Speaker 2>there going viral. Okay, yeah, we was in that going viral.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna we almost done with this. Ain't gonna lie. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they ain't never done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good because I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's actually crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you come back from San Diego. Yep, fast tracking

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<v Speaker 1>now back to so you go back from San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to figure out, well, where did you get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of? Yeah? I'm like where is that? What? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I told you figure.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hearing the story because you have these extra

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, adjectives.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the right word? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, because it's action packed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I was going through a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't. You know when you when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you coming from nothing. And this is why I always

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<v Speaker 2>am with people who came from nothing, because we understand

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<v Speaker 2>each other on a level that's just a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also running corporate of the highest level. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also run in the lowest level because at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, it's like when you come from

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<v Speaker 2>having no other option, it's serious. Yeah, I know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. It's like, just because somebody's in

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<v Speaker 2>a higher neighborhood don't mean that they don't got no

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<v Speaker 2>option but to run the play either. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. That's why you got white collar crimes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why you got other Don't think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>all about oh, because he got a rag on, he

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<v Speaker 2>hard like, No, it's a lot of people come from nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>even to Brazil favelas, to wherever you go. It's hoods,

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<v Speaker 2>it's motherfuckers that's willing to go to the roof wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you go. So I understood that early and I always

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<v Speaker 2>related to whoever was should like what you want. But

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<v Speaker 2>the smart hustlers, I hate dumb hustlers. I never hustled dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you break down a dumb hustler for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, A dumb hustler is A dumb hustler is A

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<v Speaker 2>dumb hustler is basically somebody who is always just hustling backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you in and out of jail all day.

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<v Speaker 2>You're hustling backwards, like your hustle is not planned out,

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<v Speaker 2>Like where's your execution? Every last every last person around

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<v Speaker 2>me been to prison, been to this, been to that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>every last person around me been to prison like all

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<v Speaker 2>my family, my brother did thirteen years, my other brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's been. But at the end of the day, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, it's about like dang, like they

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<v Speaker 2>all got the same story, Like damn, I should have

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<v Speaker 2>did that different. So if you're going to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>do the same thing over and over and over and

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<v Speaker 2>over and over, I need to drain this ship. Here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna figure out this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We have. We have a way to drain it can well.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut no, but no, we don't even need to. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not just this guy to be keen.

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<v Speaker 1>Did with what if that splash? Is that gonna splash

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<v Speaker 1>that you?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah? Hell no, I'm doing drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Similarly, that's how you know you self made right.

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<v Speaker 2>There right there, right there. We don't real quick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't worried about that, but you know this needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be cleaned anyway eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't put the seasonings in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it's about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's not micro manage your cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I ford

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<v Speaker 2>it out because I don't be liking the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be talking about yeah, yeah, so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I do at my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just kind of what's his name it was?

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<v Speaker 2>When you drop that in there, I should have had

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<v Speaker 2>you do the I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You needed help in the kitchen?

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<v Speaker 2>Me, Hell no, I don't need no help. I'll shoot me.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't look, I'll tell you call me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have went to the man. I should have

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<v Speaker 2>went to culinary art school. Just your whole it's all

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 2>cut and stuff going on. You throw this in there

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<v Speaker 2>right there, you feel look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>See I envisioned ghetto cast roles to be something different,

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<v Speaker 1>did you?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the positive It looks.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks really fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm telling you, I used to cut up the

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<v Speaker 2>turkey burger and throw this into that. If you eat

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<v Speaker 2>that with that, you feel to be like this dude,

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<v Speaker 2>rock did that? And then don't be using my recipe

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<v Speaker 2>at home, because.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point using this, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be they're going to be judging your recipe.

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<v Speaker 2>This way because they wanted to do with this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what had met. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing this as niggas were drinking similar looks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. And then for me, I'm a spice

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<v Speaker 2>idter threw some mohat sauce on top and did it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it look this plated like this?

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<v Speaker 2>This? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Does what look like does whenever you did it? Did

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<v Speaker 1>it look like this when you would play it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I cut it up sometimes, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>does it look well? It looked fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked kind of fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you added like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>greenery or vegetable to it would have looked really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're really trying to break down my looks a little.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks nice. Okay, it's kind of fun. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>sold millions of records. You know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 1>never know.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, this is listen, this is doing something. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta break down to what's his name into the west

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<v Speaker 2>that you ain't got a knife if you break down

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<v Speaker 2>a little piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, hold up, yeah, we need a knife

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<v Speaker 1>for your cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my mama, little it's kind of crazy. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do too much, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do too little. You know what I'm saying. When you

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<v Speaker 2>do that, and you do that with that, and you

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<v Speaker 2>just throw a little turkey up in there, look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Yeah, that's like something different because we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't You didn't have time to get all the pasta

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<v Speaker 2>and this and that and the third this was already

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<v Speaker 2>its own made pasta. She was going on, m it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually kind of crazy, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Good and you know what, you're using that meat really well.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm trying to explain, I was trying to tell

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even be like, I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell nobody when I started telling people.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuffy little soft, I don't like that, but I ain't

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie I was talking too much.

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<v Speaker 2>You seasoned that meat like something's going on.

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You seasoned it. What I'm trying to that it's good hunt.

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.679
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm trying to explain there, trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell you it's th season. I'm telling you this

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<v Speaker 2>right here. You was eating this after you did whatever

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>you did and came back to this. That's what I'm

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to tell you you thought you went to Ruth Cress.

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. You seasoned very well, that's.

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 2>What I'm telling you. You thought I went to you

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 2>thought you went to Ruth Chris, but you went to

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Rocks Crest. I don't know that that was crazy. I

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna lie that was nuts. But the punchline is

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the punch you are Holman. Yeah, I just came from

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<v Speaker 2>eating That was the problem. To eat my whole wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>not right now it's gonna be unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want what did you eat before this?

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I just came from ruth Crest. We just came from

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Ruth Christ That's the crazy part. I was like, damn,

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 2>let's just go get some steak into and then it

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Now I got steak and all kind of his bomb. No, huh,

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, I know my own ship. That's what

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I'm mad. I'm not that hungry because it's

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>been going too far.

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that you went from Ruth Chris to eating this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm screaming. But it's the same program. Actually,

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I like mine better.

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Really, man, what.

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>When I get to season some of that stuff be bland.

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I'll be paying five hundred dollars for something bland, just

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>for the look. You know what.

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>You're missing out because this this turkey burger is kind

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of doing something. It's doing something like like I feel better, That's.

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying. And then this one right here is

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 2>even more seasons than that one. That's the crazy, because

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I could smell it. I know what happened off the

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>way that the edges is cout. I'm like, oh, like

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 2>if I had to pick, and then I had to

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 2>pick for myself, I had to pick that one, right.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the other side is like that.

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>No, get a corner, get a corner of that, and

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 2>see what happens if you get that right already? Be like,

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 2>what is that corner?

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>This one looks more juicy.

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm telling you you. I didn't even mean

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 2>to do you like that, but I thought I was

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to get all so stuffed. Yep mm hmm. Yeah,

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm yelling. That's what I'm telling you. Something

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>else going on over here anyway. You know what you

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 2>can That's what I'm explaining. I'm gonna put together when

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I can put together, When I can put it together.

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 1>What was the last time you had this, I ain't.

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Made this in probably fifteen years. Fifteen years. This was like,

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 2>this was a struggle meal.

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>If we left off at seventy, yeah, seventeen, all right,

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>we're getting close to you becoming rich.

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mam, we're getting there somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I touched

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>my first million at like twenty one. Oh am, I

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>we're here now, okay, yeah, but I touched my first

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 2>million like twenty one.

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not skipping steps because your story is fun. So seventeen, yep,

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you moved from San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm back and I'm back on the block. I'm

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 2>back around here and I'm figuring it out pretty much.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>So like eighteen I had eighteen, I had bumped into

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>an investor. First of all, I was I was writing,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>like I was battle rapping and doing all that, and

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I was so popular with dance and I was getting

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of popularity with dance in my space in

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 2>San Diego. I had dropped the record called bat Box

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>on my space, and when I tell you, it was

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 2>the most popular. So I had like a million something blades.

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 2>It was the most popular song, and I said, dang,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>these people really like my music. This is crazy. And

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>so I was getting so much not that people were

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.239
<v Speaker 2>dming me like yo, bro, that's fire, Like yo, bro,

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>what's up? So basically this investor had DM me like yo,

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I got no Actually sorry, Mike Post. You know Mike

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Post he created Law and Order, the Law and Order Tell,

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the Lawn Order theme song, and all the music for

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Law and Order. He gets paid every three seconds. He's ridiculous.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>So so Mike Post is like yo, like my other

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 2>boy was actually at Mike's studio. He's like, yo, you

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>should sit down on him. So I came over there.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>They gave me like like it was like yo, go ahead,

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 2>like play what you got. I played it. I did

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>like a whole performance thing Da da da, and it

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>was like yo, like you're the next. There was no

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 2>Drake obviously, there was just maybe a Chris, but there

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 2>was no rapping, singing dance. Wasn't They like yo, like

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you next up? Like this is crazy, like what you need?

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact. So he had an SSL studio with

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>like other rooms. He was like listen, anytime, use my studio.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>You're good. So for me going you know, in everybody

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>closet to record you know what I'm saying. The bathrooms,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm recording the most random places in the hood,

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>just like wherever you got a mic set it up. Like,

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>so going from there to an SSL recording studio was

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 2>a It just was a different frequency. So I'm like,

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>because of my environment, I have to now adapt to

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>this level of music. So that SSL made me change

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the way I approached records because I'm like, let me

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>think a little harder now, you know what I'm saying.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm doing that this and the third, and I'm

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>writing crazy records and I'm rapping. I'm doing all this stuff.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I was with this dude n In Kira from London,

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>which is which was my main producer. I actually assigned

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a production deal with him and Kira early was like

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.479
<v Speaker 2>he was a family friend from from my mom from

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>way back, but he's from London, so his sound was European.

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>He had like done Kylie Minogue and all these other people,

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>so he was like, yo, rock, this is how we

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna approach it. It was always like some big sound

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>in European, worldwide stuff. And then I'm like okay, and

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>then he was like, yo, there's this group called Lexington Bridge.

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 2>The're number one in Germany. I'm gonna put you on

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>there with them. So he put me in with this

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>group and I ended up doing a verse and ended

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>up having a number one record in Germany with these.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Kids, You're doing a versus and rapping right, rapping, And

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like eighteen.

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, dang, I'm sitting there and I'm going crazy.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is nuts. This is the first time

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I ever But I didn't know what that meant. I

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>just like that.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And then so from there, like now, when you have

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the number one record, are you making money or.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 2>You just know that you have I just know I

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 2>got number on rad I didn't even know what it

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>means to have a number one record. I'm like nineteen

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 2>right there in eighteen ninety. So then Tim and Bob, right,

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 2>you know Tim and Bob. Tim and Bob like legendary

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 2>producers like Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis like super like

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>my real film, now my next level brothers. These families different,

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>But back then there was Tim and Bob. They created

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Volentino that they voice the me in Evolution and

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>brought out to me in case and everybody from beyond

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>they had it was like everything. So Dad came around

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 2>and they were using my sister actually to do back

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>all Jennifer Lopez's backgrounds at the time, and so one day,

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, my sister always was like my sister loved me,

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>so she's always like yo, like I'm over here, da

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>da da. And I came to drop her off something

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>at the studio and she's like, oh, this is my

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>brother and they're like, damn, bro, you look kind of dope.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>You look out like a look like what you do?

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yo, rap da da da, And so

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I pressed play on something. They like, what the yo, man,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>what's up with here? So Tim and Bob set up

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a session. I actually got in the booth and while

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I was in the booth, he's like, yo, can you

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>test the mic because Bobby Valentino for the comminges the mic.

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 2>And so I started like singing or whatever, just to

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 2>try and get whatever frequency they were trying to go.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>What even thinking about it, They was like, bro, your

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>voice is dope. What the do you know how to write?

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>So they forced me into writing like records. It was

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>weird like at the time, like yo, just start yo,

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 2>just start trying to write some stuff, and like two

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>or three sessions later, I had already wrote like a

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>hit and they're like, dude, this is like you're a writer,

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you're a singer, You're a and I'm like, dang, I

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just was transitioning into thing. I was morphing in the

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>difference right away. I'm like, damn, am I singer? Am

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I writer? Because I was always rapping, battle rapping, hardcore always,

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>and then so my pin was so crazy. It was

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>like you put melodies over your pen, you're gonna be vicious.

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>And so my sister was always a singer, so melodies

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>was easy for me. So I'm like okay. And so

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Tony Mercedes, who signed TolC, had came one day and

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>brought his artists and was like, yo, I got this artist.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>She's big in Australia. Write her a song. And I

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>wrote her a song on the spot as a smash,

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and he gave me a check the next day. It

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>was like here, how much was the check? Seventy five

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars and I'm like like, hold on, but he

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>gave me the check. You're like just sign this and

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like all right, well I'm signing. And it gave

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>me seventy five dollars. I'm like, so one of them,

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>who am I giving this to? He like this for

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>you for writing a song every record. I was trying

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>to get you ten, but they only agreed that. I'm like,

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>so I got seventy five. Oh yeah, it's over. I

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>know that they're done. Everybody's done. Everybody's done. Nobody is

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>going to breathe again with the writing. Y'all are done.

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:41.719
<v Speaker 2>They're handing out checks for writing hits. Everybody's done. All

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>y'all are good. Don't even don't even pick up the

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>pen no more unless you're extravagant. So from that day on,

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>when I see that check, and I didn't have to

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>do no gags, I have to do nothing. I have

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to hit no lick. I'd have to do no nothing.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to jump through no windows, nothing, do no flock,

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I had to sell nothing. I was, I said, he

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>just handed me this and all cash, and I don't

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>have to do nothing. And I just had to do that.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Now, my mama, I was, oh my god, I ain't

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 3>look and as you And obviously ever since then it

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>got wicked, it got serious, and so I just started

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>just becoming a guillotine with the pen like I'm just sharp.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like everybody getting diced. So from then I

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>just start cataloging. Oh y'all, hold on, y'all be buying

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>records after that's all y'all want. So now I'm sitting

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>there and then I'm finding friends. You know what I sing?

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Jump in the booth, sing what I'm singing? You know

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>how to right? So then the engineers ain't moving fast

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>enough for me, so I'm like, damn, I can't find

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>an engineer. So now I'm in the back trying to

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>figure out how the engineer. Okay, let me see how

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to record myself so I ain't got to worry about

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>these things. So I figure it out. After some months,

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I put in hours and hours and every day I'm

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure it out, and I'm going through, how

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>do I tweet this? Put this EQ? What's this? I'm

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>looking up? So I'm asking the engineers. They don't even

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>want to rock. I'm in the middle of Okay, how

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 2>do I put it a EQ on this? How do

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I make this sound better? How do I do this?

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>So I'm getting the breakdown. It's crazy. I'm getting a breakdown.

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, damn, Okay, cool, so from there, now I'm

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 2>now all the engineer a little bit. So then I'm

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 2>sitting there and I'm writing. I'm like, damn, where the

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 2>producers at. Ain't these niggas ain't not giving me enough material.

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm writing faster than the producers. You know what I'm saying.

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 2>For real. I'm like, I'm now I'm cooking because my hustle.

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 2>They gave me a check. It's done. I'm not gonna

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>stop until i'm up. If I could stack these checks

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>up to where I could be up all the way

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>up and just be up man o my mom, and

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>you're never gonna stey nobody. It's done. So I'm out

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>writing every day. I'm waking morning, noon, and night. I'm writing.

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>And so now I'm like, okay, cool, I don't know.

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't find any producers, but garage man logic. I'm like,

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>sh let me figure it out. So now I'm on

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.919
<v Speaker 2>garage Man making whack beats. I'm talking about super whack.

0:34:55.239 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like boom. I'm like, oh, I can see what

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 2>a mix on it. They gotta be crazy, It's all right, Oh,

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 2>running back, So niggas is walking in and I'm pressing

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 2>play and the other niggas in They're like, yeah, we see,

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>we can see, we can see kind of what's he

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>doing right? Hey? And then Tim and Bob and all

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>them and and Tricky Stewart and all that, they coming

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 2>in and they pressing play on crazy, I'm like, damn,

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 2>why shit is what? So now I'm like damn, Like

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>hold on, So I'm now I got to sit here

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>every day and figure out how to produce, and I'm

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>making whack ass beats until finally i make a beat

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that's hot. Then I'm like, oh, I'm for real. Hey,

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 2>look I'm telling you now I'm for real. I'm somebody else.

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Now it's hilarious.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Man, I I'm doing I'm doing all kind of I

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 2>don't even know how to play, but I'm trying. I'm

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 2>figuring it out. What this note, go to this note? Okay,

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 2>what about this note? That don't sound right? So now

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing everything my ear I'm creeping. So now I'm

0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 2>getting into it now. So now I'm like, okay, you

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm selling records, But the records, it's now

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 2>about the networking. You gotta run around and figure out

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>how to get in people's faces like I got records

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 2>over here. I got enough of a catalog. I probably

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>made probably fifty sixty songs now and I'm able to

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:16.479
<v Speaker 2>press play.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>But like he's hearing it, you didn't try to go

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>back to first due that roature. The check for the

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>seventy five, that was one check.

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 2>He not finna just cut me. He did cut me

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>a couple more checks, but he don't got an undern

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>amount of checks. He got other producers that's bigger than me.

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Like he just gave me a Like Tony Mercedi's just

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>looked out. He just looked out, like that's you know

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 2>what you're young, Go ahead, I'll rock with you. And

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I did, and I showed him prove cut me to check.

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And Tony still my guy to this day. But he

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 2>created TLC. Like he's saying, he was one of the

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>early executives. So he always seen you know, we make

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>no scrubs and stuff. You see you can see through

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>like this dude is heeds something. He got something so real.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 2>An R is always recognized like greatness in me when

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>they've seen whatever was the hungry whatever it was. So

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.479
<v Speaker 2>so he just looked out. But I went to trying

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>to find other Tony Mercedes, who else got it? Say? Yeah?

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.359
<v Speaker 2>So I was hustling and then like I said, your

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>network is your network. So at the time, I only

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>knew a couple of people, and I'm not I'm trying

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>to figure out how to get further than where I'm at.

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, dang, like, how do I get Maybe

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I need a manager. I need somebody. Yeah, because this

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna work. I need somebody. So then I linked

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 2>up with Chris Lighty.

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what I'm saying.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 2>No, Rather Chris Lighty Chris Light's most legendary manager ever.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 2>He created fifty cent did divide him in water deal.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 2>He's violate. He created a company called Violator. No he's dead.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they died. No, No, it's all good. But that's

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>my that was my that was my big bro. So

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 2>he his situation was different because he created Violator, which

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 2>he signed Buster to and fifty And that's where Mona

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 2>Scott came from, and that's where all of them came

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 2>She worked for Violator, all of them. He had a

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 2>hub of the Big Diddy. All of them was under Violator.

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Violator was the thing, yo, Gotti, all them was. When

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I got to violator. They had already been them, but Yo,

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Gotty was running around with Mike Lighty and so Chris Lighty,

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Mike Lighty, Dave Lighty, Dave Lighty brought me. Yeah, they're

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 2>all Lighties, but Dave Lighty brought me to Chris Lighty

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and Chris Lighty. When he seen me, he was like,

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 2>because at that point in time, I had walked in

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 2>there and was like, what's up, bro, Yeah, I'm the greatest.

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm the greatest that ever lived. And he was like,

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 2>what who? I ain't even ever heard of you? Bro

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>with you? And so he like, I said, who's your

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>favorite rapper? He's telling me. I said, but I'm way

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>better than them. You know what I'm saying. I'm way

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>better than your favorite. He was like, bro, God, hold on.

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 2>He calls Chris Lady, everybody in the room, the whole office,

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, Okay, we're gonna see what you're into.

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like, he's laughing at me. Though I swear everybody

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 2>knows that was around Tiffany, all the people that was around,

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 2>he's laughing at me. Right, He's like, yo, like, okay,

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna see. And so I get up and I

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 2>just start barring down the whole room and they're like,

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. What wal he like. So after I'm done,

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like yeah. He like, hold on, man, yo, you

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 2>are not He like, hold on, man, you got song songs?

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Press play? So I play like five six of my

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>craziest records. He like, you wrote these, that's you on it.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 2>He's like, okay, you know what, all right, y'all, y'all good?

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Are we good? All right? Everybody good? All right? Bruh.

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 2>So at the time, I had went to New York

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to meet Chris Lighty, but I had set up a

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 2>meeting with Mark Pitts, which is also my big bro,

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 2>which was the president of the RCA Records. But he

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 2>had by a storm and you know, he signed Chris

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Brown signs.

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>How are you getting these contacts?

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 2>You're like, just because because I was moving around. So

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I was in a studio and a dude named cast

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>And how I got to Mark Pitts was a dude

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>named casting kind of like was there with me. He

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 2>was like early with me when I was just hustling

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>in there singing making records all the time, and Caston

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, dude, you are ridiculous. On the pen like, yo,

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 2>like you like you need to be. So he brought

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>a dude named Kirk Lightburn to the studio that he

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 2>was cool with, and Kirk Lightburn worked from Mark Pitts,

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and Kirk Lightburn heard me and was like, yo, I

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.720
<v Speaker 2>need to get you to New York to meet Mark. Period.

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 2>So they were scheduling it, and I scheduled Chris Lighty

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 2>and Mark Pitts same in two days. And so when

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 2>I told when I went and met with Mark Pitts

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 2>and RCA, we had such a vibe. I was with him,

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 2>we was locked in and him the whole off. He

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, yo, let's let's lock it and let's get it.

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Were good you Buystorm And I went to Chris Lighti

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>and Chris Lighty was like, I can't even let you leave. Bro.

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say I would have never It was like,

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Even let you leave. He's like, honestly, I know where

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you went from, but you the biggest your next trust me,

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I know what it is. And I was like, I

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>think I was twenty at the time. I'm like, I

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't old enough to drink. So I'm like I'm like,

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, so what you want to do?

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>He like, well, well, how much you need or what

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>do you not? How much? He said, what do you need?

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, well right now, honestly, I just got

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 2>this little apartment that joint kind of hitting. But I've

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>been doing all cuntire. But I said, I'm finna go

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>back and the home you gotta lick. Right now, I'm

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be up, Like if we hit this and

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 2>get away with this, I'm gonna be up fifty thousand.

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 2>You said that, yeah, but I'm telling them, really, what's happening. Yeah,

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, cause, I'm like, but the home you gotta lick.

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, I'm supposed to be writing this, and

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>these niggas want me to come to Germany. I'm he like, listen,

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>how much add up all your bills for the year.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like all right, I'm sitting there. He like,

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>do it now, And I'm sitting here and I'm adding

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 2>up and I'm like, oh damn. I'm like, okay, I

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>rent two thousand month, so that's already twenty four thy

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>twelve months. And then this car I just got off

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 2>this stupid ad. I got it from Statewide, which they

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 2>give you that you know, state wide, No, they you

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 2>ain't got no credit, but you want to flaws. You

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 2>put down thirty percent and they'll give you a car.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>But they come in to repo at the day you

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 2>missed one payment. It's unusual so anyway, because they repot it.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's how I know. So I had this state

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 2>wide joint and I'm like, dang, thirteen hundred a month,

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, damn, I added that up. So tod,

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like damn. After I started adding up, like I

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 2>just need to get but I need to be fly,

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and then I needed I'm like, damn, my bill's like

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars a month. Bro. No, But I'm sitting

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 2>there and I'm talking. I'm like in my head and

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, bro, I ain't gonna lie all this, Okay.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So whole time I'm dating this girl, Genevieve Jackson right

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.919
<v Speaker 2>since I was, because I can't leave her out either

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 2>because she was pivotal back then. She's Michael Jackson's niece, right,

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Jermaine's daughter Randy's So like I was also off and

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 2>on living in the Jackson House on haven Hurst real

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't have a spot to stay because they

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 2>grew up on haven Hurst and Mensino with the giraffe

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>and all that other that they grew up in that

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>crazy mansion. And she was my girl since I was sixteen.

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>So I was with her from sixteen to like twenty something,

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 2>so twenty I think or twenty one, I don't know.

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>We just got her like five years. But during this time,

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I was also living off and on at the Jackson

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>House between my boy Shank's house and the Jackson House.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>So my best friend Shank, we all shocked up in

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 2>this one bedroom over there, and then when it's getting

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 2>bad over there, I'm going to my girl house. She

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 2>got a mansion. I'm sleeping in the room Michael used

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 2>to sleep in. No dead ass, this is my baby,

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 2>this is my girl. Like look Jennimer. So I'm playing

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>scrabble with Miss Jackson like Dr Majesty Ja'afar, her little brother,

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 2>the whole family. We there. Janet's coming home to see

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 2>her mom at random times, and this is where her

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 2>grandma lived. She lived with her grandma, So that's Michael's mom,

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>that's Janis mind as everybody. So I'm there and I

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 2>was just like inside of the highest frequency and then

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 2>go to the hood and be in the hood. It's

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the weirdest. It was like where I was so catching

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 2>frequencies from everywhere. So I can't leave her out either

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 2>because she was she was also looking out back then

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>in terms of like letting me stay there and whatever.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Like she was solid back then. I can't just skip

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 2>over her. But I also besides Ruben Cannon and I

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 2>was everywhere, but that was one of the main places

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I was obviously because I was my girl, So it

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 2>was what it was. But skip up. So I was

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 2>with her, and he was tripping off that like, dang

0:44:59.280 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 2>you with.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>The jack like it was a thing when you were wait,

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>go back. So he asked you how much you made

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 1>for a year? Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, So you end

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>up telling it up and telling him, But how did

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>he know.

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 2>That you were with her? That's what I was saying,

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>because I actually took her out there. Yeah, I took

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 2>her out there. So so so my boy let me

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>stay at his house. Roger Mason, which was playing for

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 2>the Knicks at the time. Roger Mason from the Knicks

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 2>used to play for the King's Two. But Roger Mason

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>was trying to get me to do his artist's project

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 2>C C. Cigar. So I'm like like, ooh, I could

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>go out there. I can have these meetings. I could

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 2>link with Roger figure out if I can get a

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>check out of him. And so so I'm like, so

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Roger's like, yeah, you come, you and your girl come,

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>y'all just stay. He had a penthouse over There's like,

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>y'all got to stay here. I'm like, damn you know me.

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I got the oh, I got to

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>New York. I was in the big house. I was

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 2>in there and be at her this tag like it's

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>so it was up. That's one of my best friends still.

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Roger Mason's really want so, you know, he was so

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 2>anybody I met with him. I'm sitting there with him.

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling him like yo, He's like, damn you a Jackson.

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 2>This is crazy, like all this other stuff. Right. So

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.280
<v Speaker 2>he's like, all right, cool, So how much five thousand

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 2>a month for me? That was a lot for him.

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>He didn't even remember that I even said five thousand

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 2>a month. So he's like fivey twelve sixty. He's like,

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.240
<v Speaker 2>all right, cool, I'm gonna have you a check tomorrow

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 2>for seventy thousand. After you get that check, I'm gonna

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna work that check back off. I will take

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 2>it out of the money that I make you. And

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hold on, bro, So you saying, if I

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 2>saw if we do this management and everything right here,

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 2>right here, right now, you fin the cut. I'm getting

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 2>seventy thousand for you to manage me and go get

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 2>make me some more money. And smo, do you believe

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>in me that much? Were you thinking? I said, Bro,

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>it's over. Signed with Chris Lighty, we locked in and

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 2>it was like that was that was the first person

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 2>to believe in me. Chris Lighty for real, and he

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 2>was the one that was walking around all offices like

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>rock star. He did so so so okay, all this

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 2>confidence that you hear that right there don't really work

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 2>in the music business unless you have accolades. I didn't

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 2>have them, but I knew who I was. So when

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you're walking around and you know who you are early,

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it's problems. But it wasn't. Now I heard because Kanye

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 2>is like that too, but Kan wasn't.

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>But before he was Kanye, he was producer for other people.

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>But was he was He was always confident, but he

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 2>wasn't on what I was known, because the thing about

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 2>him was I'm just saying, yeah, it was that I

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 2>get like he is like like me and him would

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>have been best friends, but he was like the way

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 2>he was, he was still like up under whoever, like

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 2>he was up under the rock or up under dame er,

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>can you look out me? I'm finna go be, Dang,

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm finna go be. I'm finna go figure it out,

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, man light, he managed me, but he was

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 2>setting me up to become me, you know what I'm saying.

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I was already walking in the buildings like, yeah, who's

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 2>your biggest artist? All right, cool, I'll do the album,

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 2>but this is how we're gonna do this, and they're

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 2>like who is this? And Chris like, yo, he's next.

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I just told you. I put all y'all, then I

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>put you on. I just told you he's next. And

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 2>then they'd be like, oh a right, Chris, all right,

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>well let's do So Chris was more like standing behind

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 2>bullying like whatever. Like Chris was so solid that he

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 2>was like rock, just talk your shit, just go off.

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 2>So I was running through buildings going off like whatever,

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 2>who is it all right, what's the artist? Okay, this

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 2>is trash, let's redo this. But I was delivering, like

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 2>when it was my time to shine. He'd come in

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 2>and press play like I told y'all, okay, So we

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 2>was winning, and so I went and got an artist.

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, he'd be like, rock, you need the you

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 2>gotta get in your mogul mode. All this genius put

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 2>it on an artist. So I went and got this

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>artist named Jude Claire DeMars right out of Detroit. And

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know Chris and the Cute. I

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 2>actually caught her walking out of Chris and Cute's office

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Chris and Cute and was like, everybody's passing on this girl.

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>And I looked at her and I'm like, this chick

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 2>is like gorgeous. She was like she was like just

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 2>she had a thing to her and I'm like, dang,

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:27.320
<v Speaker 2>you a star man, and she's like yeah, and she

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 2>from the She's like from the bottom of the d

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Like she's like Foster Home like type. Her parents were

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>running back, so she was like from the bottom like so,

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>but she's a white girl. It's the weirdest thing. So

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 2>she like that Tina Marine, you know, you never heard

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 2>of her. Jude dem she ever seen Star. She's on

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.919
<v Speaker 2>the show Star. But but but but anyway, I knew,

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I knew. I knew she was a start early because

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 2>when I see him like yo, and her voice was

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 2>real dope, and I'm like, damn, that's crazy. So I

0:49:56.320 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 2>grabbed Jude and I'm like, yo, just roll me, let me.

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna sign you. I'm gonna do your project. We're

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 2>gonna get you popping. And she's like, all right, let's

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.839
<v Speaker 2>do it. So she signed me. My well, my lawyer,

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Roger Patton was opening a lot of doors for me.

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 2>My boy Kenny Lattimore, which was singing with my sister. Again,

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people from my sister too.

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Latimore introduced me to Roger Patton, my lawyer. To

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 2>this day, I never changed. I stick to the code.

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>My lawyer to this day. I made him millions of dollars.

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 2>She's still the same lawyer. Roger Patton linked me with

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of different people, but he did all the contracts.

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>He was doing ideals. So I signed her. And when

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I signed her, I did her album and Chris was like, yo,

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>do her album, get it right, and I signed this

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 2>other girl, Carolina Web, which is like one of the

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>greatest talents. She's ridiculous, like a rock chick like something,

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, like a paramour. But I signed her and

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>her and I and when I signed her, He's like,

0:50:58.080 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>do her album, let's go do it. So I've been

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 2>album I was. I was doing all kind of stuff

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 2>like me and her was locked in finished her album.

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 2>She was still on the bottom and I'm We're like,

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna run. So we So we walked into Jimmy

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Ivian's house, right and this is the first time I

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 2>ever started seeing what was going on. So besides him

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 2>giving me that seventy thousand dollars check, the other biggest

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 2>check I got was was Roger Mason ended up giving

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 2>me two hundred and twenty thousand dollars to do CC

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Cigars album. So now I'm up like two ninety. Now

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 2>all my mam and me up to ninety. You don't

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 2>want me to be up to ninety at that point,

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>but I was doing it. Hey, look, I was like

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to night. When I looked at this, it was zeros

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 2>in the account and it was legal man on my mama.

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 2>You don't even want to talk to me. Talking to

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 2>me was wild because I was just saying, I mean,

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:52.919
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean, I'll fly out of here? Hey, look,

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was next year. It was I blew

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 2>through the money so fast that my ankles on twisted.

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>That's how fast I ran through the money. My ankles

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 2>almost twisted. How fast I ran through the money. It

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 2>was unusual. But I didn't even get there yet. Thank

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you for ruining that. But yeah, I absolutely ran through

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the money. And when I tell you, I never not

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 2>ran through the money. It's mandatory that you run through

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 2>the money. Though. A billionaire broke that down to me

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 2>because I never understood why I kept blowing my money.

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a huge part that people have to realize. Why

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:36.720
<v Speaker 2>do you blow your money? Why? So a couple different

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>mobuls taught me different things, but one billionaire told me,

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>you know the reason you blowed through your money, Like

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 2>you keep complaining because one time I went broke. This

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.279
<v Speaker 2>we're skipping up. You got me skipping up. One time

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I went broke right after I got all this money.

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 2>One time I went broke. And when I was broke,

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there and I'm telling him, like, bro

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm fucked up right now. You ain't got no projects, Like,

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 2>just give me a bridge and I'm gonna get back

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.360
<v Speaker 2>on my feet. And he like, he like, listen, how

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 2>much you I'm like give me, Like I need like

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 2>a core. I need like two hundred and fifty thousand.

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 2>So he like, all right, listen, you keep looking real emo.

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 2>And I don't like the way you're talking about yourself

0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:18.919
<v Speaker 2>or the way you feeling, like the way you're I'm

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>used to a different type of rock star. You gotta

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 2>understand how the trajectory of money goes. And I'm like,

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 2>what you mean? He said, listen, When I made five

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.720
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand, I lost it. Then I made a million,

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:33.479
<v Speaker 2>I lost it. Then I made two million. I lost

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.439
<v Speaker 2>it until I got to a place where I made

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 2>enough where I could fall on a cloud and I

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:39.839
<v Speaker 2>was still up there, and then I could keep going

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 2>from there. He said, it's mandatory because you have to

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 2>go low to go high. You gotta bend your knees

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 2>to jumps gravity. If you don't go low, you're not

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna go high. So your trajectory even on a stock obviously,

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 2>now me being publicly traded a publicly traded company owner

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 2>and me being a stock, me being who I m

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.839
<v Speaker 2>today and a mogul and a different type of thing

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 2>with tech, and I understand now how graphs and charts work.

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Back then, I didn't even know what he was talking about,

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 2>but I did say, dang, you do gotta being your

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.399
<v Speaker 2>needs to jump. You gotta go lower to go higher.

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like, bro, you keep don't fold because you hit

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the ground. You should be rejoicing. You the type of

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 2>dude you are, you think you're gonna stay here? Yeah? Right,

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 2>I bet everything in my account you'll be rich in

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:28.399
<v Speaker 2>the year. And I'm like what damn. I'm like, okay, cool.

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 2>And he didn't give me the money. He was like,

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:31.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna give you the money because you gotta

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 2>go through the steps to go get the money. Go

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 2>figure it out. Shit. And I'm like, damn, this nigga

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:38.920
<v Speaker 2>did all that and I didn't get nothing. This sucks.

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 2>This nigga sucks. But at the end of the day,

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 2>it was so true. I was like, yo, and I

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:48.239
<v Speaker 2>figured out how to maneuver and figure and everything. Every

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 2>detail was mandatory for my next elevation, you know what

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So it's crazy, But anyway, that's not where

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I was at. You got me over here going broke

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, where losing my money? Where was

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I at? No? I was somewhere else. Is going brilliant?

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, Yo, you got your money from Chris Lady

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 1>was up, you got the two hundred and twenty, and

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>he was feeling yourself.

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I was doing as much as one person could do.

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about So. Then I bump into Chris Brown, right, No, no, no,

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:21.359
<v Speaker 2>not yet, Chris Lighty, No no, no, Let's go back

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to June. That's where I was at so so so

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Claire Demos. I'm sitting there at dinner album. We walk

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 2>into Jimmy Ivin's house. Jimmy Ivien, me and Chris Lighty

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 2>sit there and play the music and I'm in Jimmy house.

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Jimmy made everybody. So I'm sitting there in

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy house and I'm like, yo, I'm nervous, but I'm like, shit,

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.839
<v Speaker 2>I just made the craziest album ever. I got Tina

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Marie right here, press play. And he's sitting there, Jimmy.

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>He's like yeah with his hat, He's like, mansion is stupendous.

0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here like this is cantankerous. I'm in this

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 2>joint like need me one of these I'm saying. So anyway, yeah,

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 2>it's unusual activity. So I'm in gim me. I mean,

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here, and I'm like, damn, this is crazy.

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 2>So we present play and so he's sitting there and

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm she's nervous, so she ain't selling the records, so

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I get to selling the records for her. Damn. There,

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm in that mother like boo, I'm I'm sitting So

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:18.280
<v Speaker 2>he's now paying attention to what I'm doing. I'm lipping

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 2>the words and this up then and then I'm here,

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 2>so I just take because she ain't able to right

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 2>now for some reason, she not being her. She's a

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 2>star twenty four to seven, but something made her not deliver,

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:33.320
<v Speaker 2>and I said, damn, so I had to take the

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.480
<v Speaker 2>floor and I'm instead and I'm you know, as a producer.

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 2>We still we made it. So we're sitting there and

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 2>we know how to still deliver whatever's happening. And so

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 2>he's sitting there, so he tells Chrisy goes, Okay, I

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 2>like her, but he's the star, So what do you

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:53.959
<v Speaker 2>want to do? With him, and so she so Chris

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Landy like, oh, okay, well we'll figure it out. Let's

0:56:57.719 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 2>talk and to that. So we get in the car

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>and she starts crying, breaking it down. She acting like

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I did it something. So I'm like, damn. Like so

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 2>that's another thing, managing artists and them whole. So I'm

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 2>like damn. So I'm sitting here with her and I'm like, listen,

0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you didn't sell it, period.

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>You said that to her?

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 2>What me, I'm saying everything. I'm telling her you didn't

0:57:22.040 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 2>sell it. We did all this and you didn't sell it.

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Speaker 2>So that's not my fault. You're supposed to sell it.

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 2>So me and her do all that, and she like, ah,

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it's a whole thing. So I tell Chris, I say, Chris,

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I need you to set something up. She don't feel

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 2>good about herself right now. It feels like this is

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 2>this we got it. We gotta deliver. And Chris like,

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call La Red.

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, do you leave Jimmy with the

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>whole I want him?

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 2>So he was see Chris started kind of like like,

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 2>we'll circle back to Jimmy because he want to work

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 2>with you. Because Jimmy signs Timberland's producers and Doctor Dres

0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 2>and Parrels, and that's what that's what Jimmy. Yeah, so

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 2>he's me people like me show up. He like, oh,

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 2>it's another to Doctor Dry. That's why I come over.

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 2>So he's on that type of vibe. But that's where

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>he's thinking. But she's like, I'm still in the middle

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 2>of I just completed this project and gave her all

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 2>these promises. Claire. I got you out the hood, I

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 2>got you you good. We're from Detroit. It's over. It's us.

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just me and you against the world. And Chris,

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 2>let's get it done. I promised you you was gonna

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 2>get signed. I know nobody ever did it. I'm gonna

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 2>do it for you. And I was, and I was

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 2>stuck on it. So I told Chris right now, forget me,

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 2>let's go to somebody. So he hit he hit La Reid.

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.760
<v Speaker 2>So we missed the flight to go meet La Red.

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, oh my god. So I'm just in

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the airport with Claire. I'm losing it. Claire's like, Yo,

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 2>this is crazy because I always miss every flight because

0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:01.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm my My scheduling is try so I missed the flight.

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 2>She's looking at me like I've done signed to the

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:09.680
<v Speaker 2>most incompetent. He's a genius, but he just what is

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 2>he doing? So she's sitting here and she's like, she's

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 2>a white girl, but she's a black woman. It's not

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 2>a normal. Yeah, it's not She's not a normal. So

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 2>she's sitting there like and I'm like, damn. I'm like,

0:59:24.920 --> 0:59:29.959
<v Speaker 2>I just missed a flight. So Chris like, you missed

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:32.919
<v Speaker 2>a flight. So he cussing me out. So I'm like, damn.

0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so he like, listen, I set it up

0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>for a week later. Get here in a week, bro,

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:41.840
<v Speaker 2>if you miss this flight, don't talk to me for

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even talking to you no more. I'm like, damn.

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 2>So I get on the flight. I'm domn there sleeping

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the airport. I'm in that the flight. I'm not the

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 2>flight on Wednesday. I'm in there Tuesday. Like I'm in

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 2>that joint right, I don't even care. So we get

0:59:57.840 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 2>on that flight, made we go to La re We

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 2>go to La Reid's office. When we go to La

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Reid's office, I'm in there with this an R. That

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was kind of like feeling Claire a little bit off

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.920
<v Speaker 2>what was going on, named Randy Rozano, and so she

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:18.440
<v Speaker 2>was like kind of champion and like whatever you wanted.

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Like she was like, yo, when you go to La Reid,

1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be in there, like that was one of

1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:24.720
<v Speaker 2>his main a and rs. She like, y'all, I'm gonna

1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:27.240
<v Speaker 2>be with y'all, like this is crazy, like I love it.

1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:30.160
<v Speaker 2>And everybody respected Chris. So everybody's kind of like, yo,

1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:32.400
<v Speaker 2>let's do it, like this is a thing. And so

1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I took Claire. I'm like, listen before we go in here,

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 2>you this is where Rihanna came from. You're Rihanna. This

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:44.160
<v Speaker 2>has to happen. Let's go like, this is not a game.

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be selling your sell yourself. Please, this

1:00:49.040 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 2>is crazy. And she like I got this, don't worry

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.360
<v Speaker 2>about it. I got it. I'm like all right, cool.

1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:56.880
<v Speaker 2>So we go up at La Reid's office and La

1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Reid sitting there and he's like, no, da da, but

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 2>see Claire's bad. So La read like he got the

1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Rihanna's and the pink singer. So when he sees something,

1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 2>he's like, So she walk in and she come in

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:13.680
<v Speaker 2>and da da da. He like, okay, go ahead, play it.

1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>But when you playing the song, perform it, I'm like,

1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:22.200
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. So I'm like, this is finnicky crazy already.

1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, don't even know. But I'm like, oh, so clear,

1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:27.880
<v Speaker 2>get up, and she'd kill it. She'd get to doing

1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:30.520
<v Speaker 2>whatever they be doing when you do stuff. So she

1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:32.640
<v Speaker 2>was cooking the records crazy and she in it, and

1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:35.880
<v Speaker 2>she telling him, oh, this is she's singing the record

1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:39.160
<v Speaker 2>and the record crazy sound like a new reality. And

1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:42.600
<v Speaker 2>he like, all right, get y'all, go go ahead, and

1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I get it. I get it. So he tells us

1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I get it. In the middle of us doing it,

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:50.040
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I get it. Okay, y'all go ahead, go outside.

1:01:50.280 --> 1:01:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Let's I'm gonna talk to Chris. I get it, Like

1:01:52.520 --> 1:01:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I've seen enough. I'm like damn. So we go outside

1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting there. I'm like, damn, you blew it.

1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I told you about this stupid ass dressoot on war

1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and this probably would mess up. And she's like, man,

1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I did. So we we in the in the lobby

1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 2>arguing about whatever the fuck because I'm thinking she I'm like,

1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. So then Chris Lighty and La

1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Reed come out with the other nd rs and they're like,

1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, all right, do you want the deal. I'm like,

1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:21.880
<v Speaker 2>what deal. They're like, listen, we're gonna go across the

1:02:21.920 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 2>street to Lavo. We're gonna let the lawyers do the deal.

1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:26.840
<v Speaker 2>We're giving her her record deal right now. Y'all not

1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:32.040
<v Speaker 2>leaving until we signing it. And I'm like, huh, so

1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:35.600
<v Speaker 2>me and her we it's up. So she started crying.

1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:38.800
<v Speaker 2>We running around. It's that. I'm like, oh, it's up.

1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:43.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, damn. So I'm sitting there with her like, yo,

1:02:44.480 --> 1:02:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe I just did this because I really

1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:51.160
<v Speaker 2>manifested and created and it worked and we're here, and

1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:54.360
<v Speaker 2>so they like, no, so I go. And that was

1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:58.080
<v Speaker 2>my first seven hundred and fifty thousand so I sold.

1:02:58.280 --> 1:03:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I was twenty one. I think I sold her for

1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:05.480
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred. She signed to me. It's called fs O

1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:09.240
<v Speaker 2>for the Services Up. So she signed on my production company,

1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:11.920
<v Speaker 2>and she signed the Epic Records through me. So so

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I basically you leased the artist pretty much anyway. I

1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:21.960
<v Speaker 2>got the check, bought her a brand new Rams Rover,

1:03:22.640 --> 1:03:25.440
<v Speaker 2>gave her a check, got her out her apartment. She

1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:28.120
<v Speaker 2>was living with her sister and her mom and it's

1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:30.640
<v Speaker 2>like over there in the middle of Korea town and

1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:33.520
<v Speaker 2>something crazy. It was like it was crazy, but got

1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:36.200
<v Speaker 2>them their own spot. They moved into this house. And

1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that was the first time I ever flipped. That was

1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that was like my first legal brick. Like I like load,

1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like I found a collect that was pretty much a

1:03:50.920 --> 1:03:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Colombian connect and I just flipped the whole. All that's

1:03:54.520 --> 1:03:56.560
<v Speaker 2>gone one load. I showed up and we got out

1:03:56.560 --> 1:03:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of there safe and the gorillas didn't get us. That

1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:01.960
<v Speaker 2>was the most money I had ever seen at the time.

1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:04.800
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, oh my god, and I just went broke.

1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:08.200
<v Speaker 2>That was the thing. I lost all the money doing

1:04:08.280 --> 1:04:10.000
<v Speaker 2>too much because I had just got all that. The

1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:15.480
<v Speaker 2>second again, yeah yeah, definitely lost again. But but that too,

1:04:15.600 --> 1:04:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I just was. I was down there like two ninety

1:04:18.600 --> 1:04:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I was down there like two and nine dollars. I

1:04:22.600 --> 1:04:24.760
<v Speaker 2>was down I'll tell you all to you know where

1:04:24.800 --> 1:04:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I was at. It was bad. But anyway, so I'm

1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:30.520
<v Speaker 2>sitting there broke, busted and discussed in the office. Boom

1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:32.720
<v Speaker 2>that check come through. It's another seventh. I'm like, oh,

1:04:32.760 --> 1:04:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm up now up so now I'm like, oh, so

1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:39.080
<v Speaker 2>signed her there. That was the first time I ever

1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:42.760
<v Speaker 2>went through having an artist and a major. That whole

1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:45.040
<v Speaker 2>situation went far left. But we're not going to go

1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:48.920
<v Speaker 2>into what that was because that was crazy. But you

1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:51.080
<v Speaker 2>know that taught me a whole bunch of stuff there

1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in terms of signing artist to majors and then the net.

1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Let's keep skipping. The next big check was when I

1:04:58.520 --> 1:05:01.800
<v Speaker 2>signed a label deal myself to Craig Calman. That was

1:05:01.920 --> 1:05:02.760
<v Speaker 2>my first millions.

1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Chris Oh, Chris Lighty, Chris Brown.

1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:10.240
<v Speaker 2>That's where we're going, like watching a movie.

1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, literally, I can have popcorn right?

1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:15.480
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, So Chris Lighty oh ye, okay,

1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:18.760
<v Speaker 2>we gotta wrap this up. So Chris Lighty, this is

1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the sick part about this. Chris Lighty dies out the blue,

1:05:25.360 --> 1:05:31.120
<v Speaker 2>right out the blue. So I'm like, what the So

1:05:31.240 --> 1:05:38.240
<v Speaker 2>they called me like Chris dead. I'm like, huh, Chris

1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:45.400
<v Speaker 2>who Chris Lighty dead. I'm like, hold on, bro, what so?

1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like what So, I'm fucked off. My head is

1:05:50.000 --> 1:05:53.760
<v Speaker 2>fucked I'm like, bro, so I'm calling Dave. I'm crying.

1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm fucked up. I'm like, what is going on. So

1:05:56.960 --> 1:06:02.480
<v Speaker 2>this whole conspiracy is crazy. Ship. I'm like, dude, what

1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:08.080
<v Speaker 2>is going So once he once he died, all the

1:06:08.240 --> 1:06:12.080
<v Speaker 2>vultures just fool. It got bad, right, It got bad

1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:15.800
<v Speaker 2>right away because they already didn't like me. You understand,

1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:18.320
<v Speaker 2>they didn't like me. They had to like me. Yeah,

1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing. They had to like me because I

1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:24.160
<v Speaker 2>pressed playing my speakers was smacking their stupid asses, and

1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:26.240
<v Speaker 2>they had to like me because of who I was

1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:29.760
<v Speaker 2>with and it was hierarchy so they couldn't do nothing

1:06:29.800 --> 1:06:33.120
<v Speaker 2>about But like, all right, he's next. He guess he's

1:06:33.160 --> 1:06:36.040
<v Speaker 2>the next Kanye, like they had to, but they didn't

1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:39.400
<v Speaker 2>want to and they didn't. So when he died, and

1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:43.880
<v Speaker 2>my MoMA, one thing I remember I'll never forget. I

1:06:44.000 --> 1:06:46.640
<v Speaker 2>walked into I snuck into the being my awards and

1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I walked into the be and my awards And I'm

1:06:48.960 --> 1:06:50.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna leave the exact name out of it because I

1:06:51.280 --> 1:06:54.240
<v Speaker 2>liked the exact now, but back then it was the wick.

1:06:54.360 --> 1:06:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It was the coldest shit I ever heard. And Nigga

1:06:56.680 --> 1:07:00.280
<v Speaker 2>tell me so, I had already liked been trying to

1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:02.880
<v Speaker 2>reach out to people afterwards, to do certain things, even

1:07:02.960 --> 1:07:05.439
<v Speaker 2>trying to reach out to the label and they didn't

1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:08.160
<v Speaker 2>want to respond, and now they direct with my artists

1:07:08.240 --> 1:07:09.360
<v Speaker 2>and I can't even get it.

1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Jesus.

1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:14.320
<v Speaker 2>So now the artists and all them is all best

1:07:14.360 --> 1:07:16.760
<v Speaker 2>friends and I can't even nobody want to answer my calls.

1:07:17.320 --> 1:07:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Now it's Rock who is Ain't no Chris, It's just Rock.

1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:25.760
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm the little nigga again. I'm nobody again.

1:07:26.240 --> 1:07:28.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sitting there and I'm like, damn, so I

1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:30.320
<v Speaker 2>can't even get to the label. They taking my artists.

1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:33.040
<v Speaker 2>She running around sessions and were about to drop. I

1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know nothing about it. They doing whatever they want

1:07:35.440 --> 1:07:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to do, and I'm trying to reach out to La

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<v Speaker 2>Read and I can't get to them. None of them

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<v Speaker 2>want to answer my call. So I'm like, man, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody kind of just blackball. It was like nobody was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like as soon as Chris, they was like,

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<v Speaker 2>why would we answer the phone without Chris? This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>making any sense right, So what happens is I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>most people would have been like, damn, man, they ain't

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<v Speaker 2>fuck with me. I'm done. But obviously lead that's when

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<v Speaker 2>that confidence, like whatever God has for me, no man,

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<v Speaker 2>could stop. So I already knew like y'all are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to play me and just fueled me. Most people fold

1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:15.000
<v Speaker 2>when they give that type of energy, they fold up.

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<v Speaker 2>I get amped from it. It's like a big It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the big that comes from me being in the

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<v Speaker 2>streets the biggest dude hop out and oh what's up,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody like hey, backing up, and man, I don't

1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:28.880
<v Speaker 2>want to I'm like, huh, I feel like now you think,

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<v Speaker 2>now you think you want to show me. I'm finished

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<v Speaker 2>try and do some amazing shit. So I want to

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<v Speaker 2>show out. So I'm trying to do I always was

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. I want to fight the biggest dude. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to whatever. So I went after everybody pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>in a nutshell in a different type of way. I'm like,

1:08:44.280 --> 1:08:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I gotta play chess. They don't want to let me

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<v Speaker 2>in the door. I'ma figure this out my throat. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the b and my awards and wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>nobody fucking with me. It was all what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I went to be in my awards, the dude,

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<v Speaker 2>the executive, powerful executive, he sees me, he goes, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>So how you being? I'm like, man, ever since Chris

1:09:12.520 --> 1:09:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Lighty died. Man, this industry just I'm seeing how fake

1:09:15.479 --> 1:09:19.679
<v Speaker 2>it is. He's like, yeah, man, like Chris Lighty died,

1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:23.000
<v Speaker 2>we didn't really want you in the building in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place, like we talked to you. He tells me,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't want you in the building in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>You you pretty much Chris barged his way in there

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and we couldn't do nothing about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, he's gone. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the hell you're gonna do now because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it happening. But he'd been waiting to

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<v Speaker 2>say this. This is how wicked he be on the low.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't see it happening. But good luck, bro, And yeah, man,

1:09:51.640 --> 1:09:54.880
<v Speaker 2>it's all good. This is a jew too, It's all good.

1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I holler at you. I'm like, damn, I'm like I said, listen,

1:09:59.280 --> 1:10:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, Chris Lighty is gone, and you think my

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<v Speaker 2>career over. He's like, I don't think your career is over,

1:10:04.479 --> 1:10:08.040
<v Speaker 2>but I just don't see what you're gonna do next.

1:10:08.640 --> 1:10:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, first of all, what you gotta understand

1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:15.120
<v Speaker 2>is this shit is in me on a scale you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't even you the fact that you just said that.

1:10:18.280 --> 1:10:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, I guarantee you you'll be cutting me a

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<v Speaker 2>check soon, but I'm gonna holler at you, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>want to shake his hand. So he like, uh so boom,

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<v Speaker 2>So I go back. I tell I guarantee you you're

1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:33.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna cut me a check soon, and that saying nigga

1:10:33.760 --> 1:10:37.720
<v Speaker 2>ended up cutting me multiple checks. But the crazy thing

1:10:37.920 --> 1:10:41.000
<v Speaker 2>is crazy thing is they will try and blacklist you

1:10:41.120 --> 1:10:44.080
<v Speaker 2>to the maximum capacity if they feel like they can't.

1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:47.720
<v Speaker 2>The industry is so scandalous if they can get you

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<v Speaker 2>out the way they will. They're all scary ass executives.

1:10:50.880 --> 1:10:53.360
<v Speaker 2>None of them want to be taking risk and putting

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<v Speaker 2>their job on the line for you. And so I

1:10:57.520 --> 1:11:00.839
<v Speaker 2>ended up, you know, kind of like have to navigate

1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:04.400
<v Speaker 2>my artists being took me kind of running through my

1:11:04.520 --> 1:11:09.960
<v Speaker 2>bread not having nothing going on into who brought me

1:11:10.080 --> 1:11:15.160
<v Speaker 2>back to life Mark Pitts with Chris Brown. So after

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, right, you understand, After all of that,

1:11:18.840 --> 1:11:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there and I'm just like doing independent projects

1:11:24.400 --> 1:11:26.920
<v Speaker 2>really like I gotta I'm hustling, and so I'm just

1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:31.439
<v Speaker 2>doing independent projects. And so like I got a new

1:11:31.560 --> 1:11:37.320
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend and she was signed the TI and I took

1:11:37.400 --> 1:11:40.320
<v Speaker 2>her and now they feel some time. It's crazy. So

1:11:40.400 --> 1:11:43.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm already politic and all kind of stuff, right, it's crazy.

1:11:44.200 --> 1:11:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm already in the mix. So I'm like, damn, like,

1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I just keep running into roadblocks. So I'm sitting there

1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and one day Chris Lighty, no Chris like Mark Pitts

1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:58.719
<v Speaker 2>calls me and he goes, hey, you still make music.

1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what do I make? I said, Now, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I'm the greatest that ever lived. Why would

1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you call me and ask me? Am I still the

1:12:08.040 --> 1:12:10.719
<v Speaker 2>greatest that ever lived? And he goes, you are nuts?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, Yo, pull up on me, man, we're doing

1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:15.960
<v Speaker 2>this Chris Brown camp, pull up on me. Let's see

1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:18.040
<v Speaker 2>what we can get accomplished. Like, I'm gonna just see.

1:12:18.320 --> 1:12:21.880
<v Speaker 2>So check this out. I had just gotten to a

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<v Speaker 2>whole pretty much scuffle with Chris Brown's whole team in

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<v Speaker 2>the club supper club the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So so I'm in. I'm in. This is how crazy

1:12:38.000 --> 1:12:40.040
<v Speaker 2>it is because I'm in the club, so like, this

1:12:40.160 --> 1:12:42.360
<v Speaker 2>is how I'm doing stuff. So I'm in the club

1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:44.360
<v Speaker 2>supper club and all this stuff because this where all

1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:46.599
<v Speaker 2>the stars is coming like everybody's there. All the big

1:12:46.640 --> 1:12:48.840
<v Speaker 2>stars of the time kept coming to supper club. Yanna

1:12:48.880 --> 1:12:51.280
<v Speaker 2>be there, this person be there. And my boy Johnny Cruz,

1:12:51.280 --> 1:12:53.640
<v Speaker 2>who I grew up with, was running the club. It's

1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the biggest club in Hollywood. So I'm in there and

1:12:55.920 --> 1:12:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm at the main table and he just like, just

1:12:58.160 --> 1:12:59.880
<v Speaker 2>give me a thousand and give me. So I'm by

1:13:00.200 --> 1:13:04.080
<v Speaker 2>bottles and I got bad bitch. It's ridiculous. I got five, six,

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<v Speaker 2>seven bad. So I'm walking in with seven eight bad bitches.

1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:08.920
<v Speaker 2>And then they like, damn, it's a good was this

1:13:09.040 --> 1:13:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Hugh Hefner. I'm walking in So Chris Brown. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I ever interacted with him besides dance,

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<v Speaker 2>because I met Chris Brown two times before, but it

1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:22.559
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that type of experience. He came to the Jackson House.

1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:24.960
<v Speaker 2>You can actually look up Chris Brown going to the

1:13:25.080 --> 1:13:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Jackson House. I was there. He came to the Jackson

1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:31.120
<v Speaker 2>House to meet the Jackson kids because he's always idolized Michael.

1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:33.920
<v Speaker 2>First time I ever met Chris, but it was quick

1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and it was some Jackson. He probably thought I was

1:13:35.600 --> 1:13:38.240
<v Speaker 2>a Jackson kid, right. So I was in the I

1:13:38.360 --> 1:13:40.280
<v Speaker 2>was in there like I was in there doing whatever

1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:43.120
<v Speaker 2>they was doing. Hey, how are you? I think I

1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:45.200
<v Speaker 2>was switching it all up. I don't even know whatever

1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:49.880
<v Speaker 2>they was on. I was doing, yes, but hey, mister Brown,

1:13:50.040 --> 1:13:53.439
<v Speaker 2>are you because they talk real polite about everything, could

1:13:53.439 --> 1:13:56.280
<v Speaker 2>be cussing you out politely. So I'm sitting there with

1:13:56.479 --> 1:13:59.120
<v Speaker 2>them on some like whole other I we all in there.

1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:01.800
<v Speaker 2>He's taking a picture and he's like in awe and

1:14:01.880 --> 1:14:04.400
<v Speaker 2>he's stars struck and I'm in there and I'm like, yeah,

1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just blending in out and definitely the darkest one.

1:14:07.680 --> 1:14:10.640
<v Speaker 2>And so anyway, so that happened, right, that was the

1:14:10.680 --> 1:14:12.280
<v Speaker 2>first time I met him. Then I met him through

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<v Speaker 2>Crump obviously, because he started to use Crump in everything,

1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and so he would come to our Crump arenas Doun

1:14:19.920 --> 1:14:23.599
<v Speaker 2>the Missus obviously, Chris Brother was one of my best

1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:26.479
<v Speaker 2>friends now right all these years later, but back then

1:14:26.560 --> 1:14:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. We didn't know each other. So he

1:14:29.000 --> 1:14:31.960
<v Speaker 2>was sitting there and he was going through the Crump arenas,

1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and he was like one of the only stars that

1:14:33.439 --> 1:14:36.400
<v Speaker 2>would actually show up to the Crump sessions. So it'd

1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:39.920
<v Speaker 2>be big Crump sessions with all these people doing its

1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:42.560
<v Speaker 2>crump anas, and he would show up in battle on

1:14:42.680 --> 1:14:44.559
<v Speaker 2>stage like all right, cool call out. So he would

1:14:44.560 --> 1:14:48.240
<v Speaker 2>come with britty with me ho and then was like ops.

1:14:48.840 --> 1:14:51.360
<v Speaker 2>So for me, I'm like, ooh, he come with the ops.

1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:55.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm bumping into him on a dance tip. It's

1:14:55.200 --> 1:14:57.679
<v Speaker 2>still that, you know what I'm saying. It ain't so anyway,

1:14:57.800 --> 1:14:59.519
<v Speaker 2>back to the club. So we in the club, I

1:14:59.560 --> 1:15:02.200
<v Speaker 2>got all these bitches. No, we're doing all this. So

1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:05.320
<v Speaker 2>one day he like, damn, his table over there was

1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:07.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of dry. He like, yo, So I had a

1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:12.080
<v Speaker 2>chick that looked like a bagging now, laters, unbelievable. I'm

1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:15.200
<v Speaker 2>talking the next level, just an all pink star burst.

1:15:15.680 --> 1:15:17.720
<v Speaker 2>And so he was sitting there. He was looking because Chris,

1:15:17.840 --> 1:15:19.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, he if it's a bad bitch around, he

1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:23.360
<v Speaker 2>don't even he like what's going. So I'm like, yo,

1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:25.560
<v Speaker 2>see me. He look over and I don't even know.

1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like that. I'm like, so I sent him go

1:15:28.120 --> 1:15:30.160
<v Speaker 2>go to his table. I don't even want you here.

1:15:30.439 --> 1:15:34.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm trying to like, see you want it. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't matter anyone Politiican right now, these niggas ain't

1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:39.720
<v Speaker 2>messing it. I was just like yo, I'm trying to

1:15:39.920 --> 1:15:42.519
<v Speaker 2>he's my we're the same age. So he looking at

1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:44.160
<v Speaker 2>me like who is this nigga with all this motion?

1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Because who am I?

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<v Speaker 1>So you send over the appetizer?

1:15:47.360 --> 1:15:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I send over there? So he like, damn he said

1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.920
<v Speaker 2>this type of frequency. So he over there. He like, okay,

1:15:53.160 --> 1:15:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you kind of respect, like a little bit like, oh

1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a nigga, send you a couple bad. But you're like, okay,

1:15:57.360 --> 1:15:59.680
<v Speaker 2>why we ain't be gonna be best friends? But it's

1:15:59.720 --> 1:16:03.679
<v Speaker 2>like so the next week, he don't come to the table,

1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:05.880
<v Speaker 2>don't come to the club. But I come back to

1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:09.560
<v Speaker 2>saying I'm back six change. Hey, look, and then his

1:16:09.760 --> 1:16:12.599
<v Speaker 2>crew come, what's it all my niggas now? But back

1:16:12.640 --> 1:16:16.160
<v Speaker 2>then it wasn't. So then I get there. I bought

1:16:16.200 --> 1:16:18.720
<v Speaker 2>his table because they say he wasn't coming, so I

1:16:18.800 --> 1:16:21.880
<v Speaker 2>bought his table. So they come to his table and

1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:25.559
<v Speaker 2>they telling me like they telling me like, yo, that's

1:16:25.600 --> 1:16:29.360
<v Speaker 2>our table. Really, the homie chick was the one pressing

1:16:29.400 --> 1:16:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the line like this is my table. I'm like, just

1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:33.800
<v Speaker 2>say your fucking table. Fuck you talking about I just

1:16:33.840 --> 1:16:36.720
<v Speaker 2>cut to that. So I don't even know really that

1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:40.800
<v Speaker 2>that's his niggas, his cousin is Keys and Autumn. But

1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:43.560
<v Speaker 2>we in it and we back and forth. So she like,

1:16:43.960 --> 1:16:45.800
<v Speaker 2>so he's stepping up for his girl. I'm like, nigga woo.

1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:50.160
<v Speaker 2>So we're now it's a whole fucking thing between me

1:16:50.200 --> 1:16:52.920
<v Speaker 2>and my niggas. Him keeps all these other niggas. They're

1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:54.720
<v Speaker 2>like ooh, So we get into it. I'm like what

1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:57.240
<v Speaker 2>they do. I'm saying, you know, I'm gangbanging. So I'm

1:16:57.400 --> 1:17:00.240
<v Speaker 2>doing this. I get right to I get right, I

1:17:00.320 --> 1:17:02.840
<v Speaker 2>go right back to South Central. I get right back

1:17:02.880 --> 1:17:05.280
<v Speaker 2>to that and mean what nigga wool? So I'm dripping

1:17:05.320 --> 1:17:08.240
<v Speaker 2>and they like what nigga bo. So it's back and forth,

1:17:08.280 --> 1:17:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's up because these niggas is Virginia, rowdy, burnt

1:17:11.840 --> 1:17:15.080
<v Speaker 2>out niggas, and plus a couple other niggas like like Red.

1:17:15.360 --> 1:17:17.960
<v Speaker 2>He had a couple of it, the hommy Red and

1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple other niggas. It's a couple of buzz out here,

1:17:19.960 --> 1:17:21.880
<v Speaker 2>different niggas. And he was sliding with and they was

1:17:21.920 --> 1:17:24.479
<v Speaker 2>there and I'm I'm payd we on some show. It's up.

1:17:24.600 --> 1:17:27.040
<v Speaker 2>So it's all kind of la shit going on. So

1:17:27.200 --> 1:17:29.120
<v Speaker 2>after that, I'm like, whoah, all right, bet wool and

1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:30.880
<v Speaker 2>we don't bump into each other, nigga, because they came

1:17:30.920 --> 1:17:32.639
<v Speaker 2>and broke it off. I wold, nigga, we gonna wool,

1:17:32.800 --> 1:17:37.080
<v Speaker 2>so we lead the club whatever. The next day, Mark

1:17:37.120 --> 1:17:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Pitts calls me the next day, right, so I don't

1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:44.760
<v Speaker 2>even not even thinking about nothing. So I go into

1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the studio Glenn Wood and I walk in. When I

1:17:48.479 --> 1:17:52.519
<v Speaker 2>walk in, I walk by and all seven of them

1:17:52.560 --> 1:17:55.640
<v Speaker 2>niggas is sitting there in the lobby looking at me

1:17:55.760 --> 1:17:57.360
<v Speaker 2>like what the fuck? So when I walk up, they

1:17:57.439 --> 1:17:59.360
<v Speaker 2>hop up, they like, what's up with this nigga? And

1:17:59.400 --> 1:18:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking. I'm like, so I'm walking by this again,

1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:04.559
<v Speaker 2>and Mark like he come meet me in a lobby

1:18:04.680 --> 1:18:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like rock what up? So then they see Mark see

1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:09.080
<v Speaker 2>me and they know he the executive, so they're like

1:18:09.560 --> 1:18:12.840
<v Speaker 2>they kind of stopped like hold on, bro, like what

1:18:13.000 --> 1:18:15.599
<v Speaker 2>the fuck? So they on some shit. I'm on some shit.

1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like yeah, So I tell Mark, I go in

1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:19.559
<v Speaker 2>the back. I ain't say nothing to Mark. I ain't

1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:21.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna lie. I ain't even tell him nothing. And he's

1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:23.960
<v Speaker 2>still to this day he talk to Mark Nzy always

1:18:24.000 --> 1:18:27.080
<v Speaker 2>be like Yo, this nigga. He didn't even tell him nothing.

1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:30.000
<v Speaker 2>He takes me back to room see and Glenn Wood

1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:33.519
<v Speaker 2>and he tells me, all right, Rock, just try and

1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:35.920
<v Speaker 2>create something. You know what I'm saying. We working on Chris,

1:18:36.040 --> 1:18:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and just try and create something. And I'm like, all right,

1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:42.880
<v Speaker 2>shit whatever. So I go in there and I start

1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:47.280
<v Speaker 2>creating crazy shit. Right. So the nigga come back in

1:18:48.560 --> 1:18:52.200
<v Speaker 2>like twelve minutes later, and he like, why the fuck

1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:54.679
<v Speaker 2>you didn't tell me you be beefing with these niggas.

1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:57.600
<v Speaker 2>You got in a fight with these niggas? Yes, So

1:18:57.760 --> 1:18:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Mark like, Rock, why you didn't tell me you got

1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:01.439
<v Speaker 2>in a fight with these And I'm like, but I

1:19:01.560 --> 1:19:05.559
<v Speaker 2>get to plan psychology. I'm like, so because I got

1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:09.240
<v Speaker 2>something going on with somebody's friends or posse or homies

1:19:09.439 --> 1:19:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that has something to do with an executive conversation. I

1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:14.599
<v Speaker 2>just told, you know, Chris. Then I start bringing up Chris,

1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:17.320
<v Speaker 2>like and did that, and then he like, listen, Rod,

1:19:18.960 --> 1:19:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna shut it down.

1:19:22.040 --> 1:19:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Don't come out this room, and you just work okay,

1:19:25.840 --> 1:19:27.640
<v Speaker 2>And I don't got time. So I'm like all right,

1:19:28.280 --> 1:19:30.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm in the room, right and he don't come

1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:34.479
<v Speaker 2>back for like six hours. So I do five records.

1:19:35.280 --> 1:19:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Like niggas do not even a song in a day.

1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I did five of them, bitches. So he come back

1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:42.800
<v Speaker 2>in the room and he's like, yo, you did you

1:19:42.880 --> 1:19:46.040
<v Speaker 2>do anything. I'm like anything. So the group, so my

1:19:46.240 --> 1:19:49.400
<v Speaker 2>bands who is the engineer at the time who ended

1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:52.760
<v Speaker 2>up being my engineer for the whole album after that,

1:19:53.280 --> 1:19:55.719
<v Speaker 2>he was in there. He was like, Yo, this nigga

1:19:55.760 --> 1:20:00.280
<v Speaker 2>just did five songs. He was like, five songs. Hell no, bro,

1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I just did five song. He like, press play, So

1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:05.280
<v Speaker 2>a press play on this record call up Down that

1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:08.080
<v Speaker 2>you can google and actually see c be a first record.

1:20:08.080 --> 1:20:10.920
<v Speaker 2>He actually cut him one. It's called up Down. I

1:20:11.000 --> 1:20:15.760
<v Speaker 2>did this record. He like this is crazy. He like,

1:20:15.840 --> 1:20:17.439
<v Speaker 2>hold on, man, hold on. This is what I was

1:20:17.479 --> 1:20:19.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to tell niggas. So he walk out the room

1:20:20.040 --> 1:20:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like damn. So he go get Chris in

1:20:25.040 --> 1:20:29.599
<v Speaker 2>room A and Chris come walking in with fifty niggas.

1:20:29.640 --> 1:20:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Told me I'm talking about like fifty niggas, all the niggas.

1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:36.360
<v Speaker 2>I got problems with the other niggas, the niggas that

1:20:36.400 --> 1:20:39.120
<v Speaker 2>they was in there talking shit with ten at Davis

1:20:39.600 --> 1:20:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Seventh Streeter. All these niggas right, So I'm like, damn.

1:20:43.560 --> 1:20:45.720
<v Speaker 2>So they come walking. They they're so thick that they

1:20:45.760 --> 1:20:48.800
<v Speaker 2>can't even fit through the studio door. That's how many

1:20:48.840 --> 1:20:51.320
<v Speaker 2>of them niggas. It was, and bitches. Everything they gave

1:20:51.360 --> 1:20:53.640
<v Speaker 2>everybody came because they're like, let's see you with this niggas. Ok,

1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:57.840
<v Speaker 2>So I press played. He marked like, hey, play that

1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:01.280
<v Speaker 2>last song. So I don't even look at them niggas.

1:21:01.400 --> 1:21:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I just turn around to the board and press play.

1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, you know that. And the way I'm

1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:08.800
<v Speaker 2>getting off, like as a dancer, like the way I

1:21:08.920 --> 1:21:11.280
<v Speaker 2>bob in, the way I moved the shit. He was like, oh,

1:21:11.600 --> 1:21:16.599
<v Speaker 2>like it immediately, but the shit was banging, so he like, damn.

1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:18.519
<v Speaker 2>So I turned like out the blue like you know,

1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:21.040
<v Speaker 2>like thirty seconds later, I'm playing, and that nigga back

1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>there like right, but the niggas behind him is like

1:21:29.280 --> 1:21:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Dave was not with nothing I was talking about. So

1:21:31.720 --> 1:21:34.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, damn. So he I see him, He like, hey, bro,

1:21:35.160 --> 1:21:37.000
<v Speaker 2>when it come out, he like that's fight. He loaded

1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:41.400
<v Speaker 2>up in the room. I'm like, oh okay, So he

1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:44.840
<v Speaker 2>take the record, go load it up. And then when

1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:47.200
<v Speaker 2>he loaded it up, he like, whoa you come back.

1:21:47.479 --> 1:21:49.320
<v Speaker 2>So I'm in there and Mark like just keep working.

1:21:49.720 --> 1:21:52.519
<v Speaker 2>So it's like twelve o'clock and I'm instilled in there working.

1:21:52.560 --> 1:21:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I did another like four records. I'm like, this is

1:21:55.080 --> 1:21:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't give I'm out working everybody, nigga, I'm making hits.

1:21:58.080 --> 1:22:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Fuck everybody, let's go. I'm looking shit loaded up, knock

1:22:01.400 --> 1:22:03.960
<v Speaker 2>it out. I'm free styling records. That's how crazy I

1:22:04.040 --> 1:22:05.880
<v Speaker 2>was going on these records. And then so he like

1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:09.360
<v Speaker 2>he come back in Chris like by himself. He like, hey,

1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:11.519
<v Speaker 2>come listen to this. So I'm like all right. So

1:22:11.600 --> 1:22:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I go in the room, I go listen to the record.

1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:17.719
<v Speaker 2>And when I'm listening to the record, I'm like damn.

1:22:18.479 --> 1:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And so he played it. He like whoa, whoa. And

1:22:21.960 --> 1:22:23.800
<v Speaker 2>now these nigga's in there bobbing because they was in

1:22:23.880 --> 1:22:25.400
<v Speaker 2>there with him and they feel like they're part of

1:22:25.439 --> 1:22:28.640
<v Speaker 2>it there. So now everybody fucking with it now. And

1:22:28.760 --> 1:22:30.680
<v Speaker 2>then so I'm in there, I come in. They still

1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:36.800
<v Speaker 2>got to stank attitude whatever, right so so so so

1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:39.720
<v Speaker 2>basically he was like, yo, I love this record. D

1:22:39.960 --> 1:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So he told Mark Markers like I told you this

1:22:41.880 --> 1:22:44.559
<v Speaker 2>nigga hot, and so he left you. When we was leaving,

1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>he was like, I'm about to go home, but listen, bro.

1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:48.479
<v Speaker 2>After I get off community service, like meet me here

1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:53.240
<v Speaker 2>like like come tomorrow, Bro. I'm like all right, for sure. Yeah,

1:22:53.320 --> 1:22:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Chris tell me like come tomorrow. Yeah. He's like at

1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the community service like come tomorrow. I'm like all right. Show.

1:23:00.000 --> 1:23:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh So I tell Mark like, hey, Chris told me

1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:05.760
<v Speaker 2>to come tomorrow. Should I come? He like, yeah, nigga, come,

1:23:06.080 --> 1:23:08.160
<v Speaker 2>what the hell did you talk about? Come and stop

1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:10.800
<v Speaker 2>blindsiding me. I sat there and had to put my

1:23:10.880 --> 1:23:12.639
<v Speaker 2>neck in. Tina came over here and you to cuss

1:23:12.800 --> 1:23:16.240
<v Speaker 2>me out about you. I'm like, damn. So from there,

1:23:16.680 --> 1:23:20.479
<v Speaker 2>I came every day and every day I made Hit

1:23:20.640 --> 1:23:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Records until I made Find China, and then it was bad.

1:23:29.000 --> 1:23:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Then it was over. It's over, It's done. I mean crazily.

1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I did executive produced the like I'm from then where no,

1:23:40.560 --> 1:23:42.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know I went from executive produce. I went

1:23:42.920 --> 1:23:47.439
<v Speaker 2>from that album. So after Find China see Find China, see,

1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Chris was at a very different place. And this is

1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:53.519
<v Speaker 2>why me being in at Jackson House changed my life.

1:23:54.960 --> 1:23:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Because Find China changed my life. You understand what I'm

1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:01.479
<v Speaker 2>saying that was the biggest record, and it changed the radio,

1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:05.280
<v Speaker 2>and it made everybody think Michael Jackson had just died.

1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:10.040
<v Speaker 2>It made everybody. Even Janet Jackson called and said, this

1:24:10.200 --> 1:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>is the closest thing I ever heard to my brother,

1:24:12.080 --> 1:24:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I need whoever produced this album to come do my album,

1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:17.560
<v Speaker 2>which is crazy because she didn't even know I was

1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:21.080
<v Speaker 2>dating her niece. She't even know it was me, so

1:24:21.280 --> 1:24:23.920
<v Speaker 2>but that's a different story. But what I'm saying is fine.

1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:28.800
<v Speaker 2>China was so massive and it hit so hard that everybody.

1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Bruno Mars changed his sound. Everybody changed their sound and

1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>went to that. Bruno Mars went from beautiful girls to

1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>now everybody's in the eighties. I don't want no I'm like, oh,

1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>so all y'all want to bring basslines to the radio.

1:24:42.360 --> 1:24:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I changed music guaranteed. So once Chris did find China.

1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:50.040
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, Timberland walked in the room

1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and then me and Timberland was locked in for about

1:24:52.280 --> 1:24:55.880
<v Speaker 2>four months straight. Timberland is the reason I did the

1:24:56.120 --> 1:24:58.719
<v Speaker 2>stuff with Beyonce. With Beyonce flew me out to Jungle

1:24:58.800 --> 1:25:01.719
<v Speaker 2>City and he brought me to at least get Timberland

1:25:01.720 --> 1:25:03.320
<v Speaker 2>brought me to some different people because me and him

1:25:03.360 --> 1:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>was super locked in. So but he came to the

1:25:06.000 --> 1:25:09.080
<v Speaker 2>camp late after the album was damn, they're done, and

1:25:09.200 --> 1:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>he was like he heard find China, stopped the music

1:25:14.080 --> 1:25:16.560
<v Speaker 2>and said, listen, this is the craziest shit. What the

1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>fuck is happening? Who did this? And they was like, oh,

1:25:20.400 --> 1:25:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Chris and Allen was like that nigga. He was like, nigga,

1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:27.160
<v Speaker 2>you are not normal. Oh for shure, they're like you.

1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:29.519
<v Speaker 2>But at that time I was at I was in

1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the camp, his friends, it became my best friends, his cousin,

1:25:34.000 --> 1:25:36.360
<v Speaker 2>my cousin. We all together, we at the clubs together,

1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:39.920
<v Speaker 2>were moving around. I played Autumn Leaves for Rihanna and

1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>she cried, oh he played at at least for Rihanna.

1:25:42.920 --> 1:25:46.160
<v Speaker 2>She cried Niggas like, I can't like. The records were

1:25:46.320 --> 1:25:51.400
<v Speaker 2>so vicious that it was like people couldn't believe that

1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:54.439
<v Speaker 2>niggas was creating this level of music. And that was

1:25:54.560 --> 1:25:56.400
<v Speaker 2>my time to shine. That was my time to show

1:25:56.479 --> 1:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the industry through the biggest artists in the world, that

1:25:59.479 --> 1:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I was. And so that record Fine China changed everything

1:26:04.920 --> 1:26:08.240
<v Speaker 2>because I went from that to executive producing this album.

1:26:08.520 --> 1:26:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I did not I did. I did ten records on

1:26:12.600 --> 1:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>X on that album and I named the album X

1:26:14.760 --> 1:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>with Diplo, Me, Diplo, Chris. We did the X, but

1:26:18.280 --> 1:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>we actually named the album X off this record that

1:26:20.360 --> 1:26:24.640
<v Speaker 2>we did called X and it was life. That was

1:26:24.760 --> 1:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>life changing for me. That record changed my life. And

1:26:27.720 --> 1:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>then I went from that to doing j Lo's album,

1:26:29.960 --> 1:26:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Fergie album, Usher, Rihann, everybody you could think of it

1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:38.800
<v Speaker 2>just domino effect once they knew, oh he's him, and

1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the executives can get around it no more. Once show

1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>artists are requested me, who did that? Well, who's the

1:26:44.360 --> 1:26:46.439
<v Speaker 2>nigga that's always with Chris? Who's the nigga that just

1:26:46.479 --> 1:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>did that? Brought him? Because Chris Brown was in a

1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:51.360
<v Speaker 2>place where nobody was trying to hear his shit no more. Yeah,

1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't fucking with him. And then I said, well,

1:26:54.320 --> 1:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>why don't we do a Jackson record that is going

1:26:57.479 --> 1:27:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to remind the world, like Michael Jackson was getting in

1:27:01.720 --> 1:27:05.519
<v Speaker 2>bullshit every day, dude, whack old jack Oh this is this.

1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:08.479
<v Speaker 2>But when he pressed play, oh, that ship went out

1:27:08.479 --> 1:27:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the window. And we do a Michael record. And so

1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:13.519
<v Speaker 2>when he did that, he took a risk and he

1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:17.120
<v Speaker 2>did the Michael record. They was right back on his dick.

1:27:17.800 --> 1:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>So now that we've gotten your full scope and your

1:27:21.920 --> 1:27:22.639
<v Speaker 1>tipping points.

1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I like that.

1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I like that you got a little black listed in between.

1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

1:27:27.760 --> 1:27:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Tried. After that, it became bad. They couldn't do it on.

1:27:31.200 --> 1:27:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Now you've been a successful now became my best friend.

1:27:34.640 --> 1:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:27:34.840 --> 1:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Now they're all your best friends, know, Yeah.

1:27:38.160 --> 1:27:41.360
<v Speaker 2>All of those ones. That was all they was doing this.

1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Who's on the phone, Oh yeah, tell him email me.

1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:48.160
<v Speaker 2>They was doing that. Damn same niggas is hitting my

1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>line sixty dollars. My latist said, is there can I get? Oh? Oh?

1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Is this the same nigga that I didn't believe in me? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:27:55.960 --> 1:27:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm a link. Oh yeah, send them through. I'm dumb

1:27:58.400 --> 1:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>talking the niggas crazy too, don't get it twisted. I'm

1:28:01.040 --> 1:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>letting them. I'm reminding them that they didn't believe back then.

1:28:05.080 --> 1:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But because I'm a scorpios, I can't. You can't forget. Yeah,

1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>you can't forget. I'm not gonna let you forget. But

1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:13.360
<v Speaker 2>now I'll get over it. But you won't forget.

1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I believe it. I'm very fair scorpios. Yeah, but now

1:28:19.760 --> 1:28:23.120
<v Speaker 1>now that you're you're you're killing it in the music game,

1:28:23.360 --> 1:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you're also tapping into the entrepreneur game. You're doing that.

1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess we're not going to talk about your.

1:28:29.960 --> 1:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Ar about skipping up till now. Yeah. Well well yeah

1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:36.320
<v Speaker 2>now we now we thirteen Grammys later, and we just

1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>want to build. No, thirteen thirteen.

1:28:38.200 --> 1:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was fifteen.

1:28:39.240 --> 1:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>No, I was at eleven, and then we're up for

1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>three right now? Ok, A fourteen Yeah, that's that's all

1:28:48.120 --> 1:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. That's a hundred million records.

1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>We're here, We're here, yeah, right over time. But I

1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>just want to make sure that I cover just kind

1:28:56.080 --> 1:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of the today's standpoint, like what's going on with you? Now?

1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:02.439
<v Speaker 2>We got rock wireless, Yeah, Rockstar wireless, ros Star wireless Yeah,

1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:05.719
<v Speaker 2>well yeah, because you got a transition. So making millions

1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>of dollars and becoming a mogul in music gets you

1:29:10.000 --> 1:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>to a place, right, And that made all my some

1:29:13.800 --> 1:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>of my best friends like flow Rider and different people

1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:18.599
<v Speaker 2>that support me. Me and floor Rider used to sleep

1:29:18.640 --> 1:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>on the floor at Davonte's swing studio. Yeah, if you

1:29:22.320 --> 1:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>talked to flow Rider and be like you used to

1:29:23.800 --> 1:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>sleep on the floor at Me and flow Rider used

1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:30.280
<v Speaker 2>to sleep on the floor at Davonte's swing studio and

1:29:30.360 --> 1:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>we were sharing burgers and Sharon Fries and shit like that.

1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>He got discovered, went to Miami and I think signed

1:29:36.080 --> 1:29:38.800
<v Speaker 2>a trick that year, one of them out the blue.

1:29:39.080 --> 1:29:41.200
<v Speaker 2>But we was all there, broke busted in discussion. This

1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>is why floor Rider is one of my best friends

1:29:42.920 --> 1:29:45.599
<v Speaker 2>in the world. And it just killed that that ninety

1:29:45.640 --> 1:29:49.519
<v Speaker 2>million dollar deal with Celsius and all that time heat.

1:29:49.600 --> 1:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>That's one of my best friends. I love floor Rider

1:29:51.360 --> 1:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>to death. But we came from the bottom together. But

1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people that I came up with

1:29:57.240 --> 1:29:59.759
<v Speaker 2>and when I became a mogan whatever situate, they support

1:29:59.800 --> 1:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>me on a different scale because they've really seen what

1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:08.439
<v Speaker 2>I went through to become something bigger and so tech.

1:30:09.360 --> 1:30:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I've always been in a tech it was my passion forever.

1:30:12.960 --> 1:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Like we won the CS Award for Most Innovative Technology

1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:21.439
<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirteen for the dual screen cell phone. Me

1:30:21.479 --> 1:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and my partner Darius Allen, which I partnered in Rockster

1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Wireless with was creating cell phones, selling cell phones, tablets

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<v Speaker 2>with the projectors, doing stuff that people couldn't do early

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<v Speaker 2>and so I stick to the same code I start

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<v Speaker 2>with you. I'm finished, but still my partner in things

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<v Speaker 2>that we do. All day. I was doing tech since

1:30:42.560 --> 1:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I figured that tech was what's next, Crypto was what's next.

1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I had a million dollars in crypto. I had million

1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>dollars in bitcoin when bitcoin was two thousand dollars. My

1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>boy DA put me up on a play. I made

1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>million dollars in bitcoin early. So I was on plays

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<v Speaker 2>everything tech early, and I was always in it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just honing creating, and so that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of got into tech. Because music will make you

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<v Speaker 2>a certain amount of money, but it's a gateway drug.

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<v Speaker 2>And the problem is people stay in music forever. Catalog

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<v Speaker 2>publishing all that. That's cool, but it's limited. I take that.

1:31:18.600 --> 1:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I've used that gateway drug to get into a much

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<v Speaker 2>bigger atmosphere, and I use the connections and the people

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<v Speaker 2>I've built this world with to This is how beats

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<v Speaker 2>By Dre becomes a four billion dollar company. You take

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Iveen starts dabbling in tech, he takes the doctor

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<v Speaker 2>dres and now here it's the influence of this. So

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Brown one hundred and fifty six million followers on

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<v Speaker 2>just one platform. If that's your people and he pushes

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<v Speaker 2>a button, you now, even if it's just ten percent,

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<v Speaker 2>you got fifteen million users on a platform, you could

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<v Speaker 2>already sell the platform just off them users at one percent,

1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:59.040
<v Speaker 2>one point five million users on a platform. So once

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<v Speaker 2>I started to understand and extra strategies, how to do

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<v Speaker 2>reverse mergers and the shell companies, how to do pink sheets,

1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:08.679
<v Speaker 2>how to sit there and run stocks from the top

1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>to the bottom. How to really understand the crypto markets,

1:32:12.280 --> 1:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the NFT markets, how to mint, how to understand floors,

1:32:16.439 --> 1:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>where Ethereum went, where this is it? Solana all the coins?

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<v Speaker 2>How to go through different situations. I study things, and

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<v Speaker 2>once I started understanding where the money was, I started

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<v Speaker 2>to create tech companies on a scale that's like okay, music,

1:32:31.520 --> 1:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>tech influence all in one situation. Then that's how I

1:32:35.439 --> 1:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>got Rockstar Wireless. Did it with the head of T Mobile,

1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Dan Thigerson, Mike Seffert and all of them, And they

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<v Speaker 2>came in, They're like, yo, we support we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any minority NB and os let's tag team. So we

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<v Speaker 2>locked in with them. Did that did the biggest deal.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the only black owned cell phone company and that's worldwide,

1:32:57.000 --> 1:33:00.040
<v Speaker 2>and we have better rates than everybody else. Yeah, e

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<v Speaker 2>racing everybody now.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we know that I'm going to get a

1:33:02.280 --> 1:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>second line. Oh yeah, get you a second oneless.

1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>As you know, Mint Mobile just sold for one point

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<v Speaker 2>four billion. That's how Ryan got his one point four billion,

1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>as he would have had to do a lot of

1:33:15.960 --> 1:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>movies to get that. But you know that tech takes

1:33:18.560 --> 1:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you somewhere else. I also have Trinity Social, which TikTok

1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:24.519
<v Speaker 2>is going out of style and they're about to get banned.

1:33:24.720 --> 1:33:29.760
<v Speaker 2>So we created a social media platform that encompasses all

1:33:29.840 --> 1:33:33.439
<v Speaker 2>of the platforms into one platform. That's why it's called Trinity.

1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like the Father, the son Hoole. It's like all

1:33:35.520 --> 1:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>of the things in one is the Trinity. And so

1:33:38.520 --> 1:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>it's called Trinity Social. And we have a version of

1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Clubhouse in there, a version of OnlyFans in there. We

1:33:43.560 --> 1:33:47.080
<v Speaker 2>have everything that Instagram gives you from feeds, you can monetize,

1:33:47.479 --> 1:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>go lot, everything all inside one social media app. And

1:33:51.200 --> 1:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>so that's next stuff as well as doloaded. Right now

1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>in your app store, download Trinity Social. You'll love it

1:34:00.240 --> 1:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>if you're tired of paying however much you're paying, and

1:34:02.880 --> 1:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>people paying three four five hundred dollars on cell phone bills,

1:34:05.320 --> 1:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you can come to Rockstar wireless were given nineteen ninety nine, Like,

1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you want to do. I don't

1:34:10.439 --> 1:34:12.519
<v Speaker 2>know if you beat that. I pay for it when

1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>coming to play.

1:34:13.800 --> 1:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>My phone way too hot. So we gotta go, We

1:34:15.640 --> 1:34:16.240
<v Speaker 1>gotta go.

1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:19.799
<v Speaker 2>And so I've been building heavy tech companies and running

1:34:19.840 --> 1:34:22.760
<v Speaker 2>plays and now I'm kind of the bridge between tech

1:34:22.840 --> 1:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>companies and the music business. It's impossible to get to

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<v Speaker 2>a Chris Brown, It's impossible to get to a Jennifer Lopez.

1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:31.439
<v Speaker 2>It's and possible to get to a Fergie or a

1:34:31.560 --> 1:34:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Prince Royce or even like certain basketball players certain and

1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:38.519
<v Speaker 2>they're all my best friend. Like there's people I'm day

1:34:38.560 --> 1:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>to day with. So I bridge gaps between even other

1:34:41.880 --> 1:34:44.760
<v Speaker 2>companies that I rock with, and we bridge gaps so

1:34:44.920 --> 1:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>that their companies can scale a lot faster than the

1:34:47.720 --> 1:34:52.559
<v Speaker 2>traditional marketing of strategies, because that's really the new marketing strategy,

1:34:52.720 --> 1:34:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Like influencers and so I have, you know, kind of

1:34:56.640 --> 1:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>ignorant amount of them, and so we go crazy and

1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>we're all friends, Like I only mess with people that

1:35:01.200 --> 1:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I like, And so that's the whole situation. And I've

1:35:03.960 --> 1:35:06.080
<v Speaker 2>just been scaling and just building from there. And that's

1:35:06.120 --> 1:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>how I you know, coming from nothing to something, that's

1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>how that really happened. And when I tell somebody I

1:35:12.320 --> 1:35:15.439
<v Speaker 2>really was sleeping coming from nothing, that's something I really

1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:18.519
<v Speaker 2>built it break by brick by brick by step.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just learned that just now hell Broke's

1:35:23.240 --> 1:35:26.720
<v Speaker 1>head to lit to to really lit to wealthy, I

1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:28.439
<v Speaker 1>would say more wealthy.

1:35:30.040 --> 1:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm still rich. I feel like I need to get

1:35:32.000 --> 1:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to I'm getting to wealthy once I exit you know,

1:35:35.040 --> 1:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>two or three of these companies or even one of

1:35:38.520 --> 1:35:41.439
<v Speaker 2>even one of them, Uh, you know, it's going to

1:35:41.439 --> 1:35:44.280
<v Speaker 2>be a wealthy situation. But until then, I would say

1:35:44.479 --> 1:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>rich because you know, for me, uh, until you're nine

1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:51.599
<v Speaker 2>ten figures, until you're in a one hundred million range,

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<v Speaker 2>like ten figures. Yeah, I touched ten figures in terms

1:35:54.880 --> 1:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>of deals, but that's ten million, nine million. I know

1:35:59.520 --> 1:36:03.280
<v Speaker 2>that's a million eleven minute. But you're talking about people

1:36:03.360 --> 1:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>are out here running around with billions and billions and

1:36:08.080 --> 1:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of me. So it's like for me, I'm still

1:36:10.960 --> 1:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get to where I need to get I'm like,

1:36:12.840 --> 1:36:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm pushing buttons, you know what I'm saying on a

1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>different scale. And that's why I've set things up to

1:36:17.400 --> 1:36:19.800
<v Speaker 2>make sure that the exit strategies are built. Do not

1:36:19.960 --> 1:36:22.679
<v Speaker 2>build anything in your life and without an exit strategy,

1:36:23.160 --> 1:36:25.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's how you set yourself up for failure. And

1:36:26.000 --> 1:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>when you learn how to build an exit strategy and

1:36:28.160 --> 1:36:31.320
<v Speaker 2>anything it is, you don't want to be tied to

1:36:31.400 --> 1:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>something forever like that get, you know, unless it's now.

1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about people, the girl, you know whatever, family,

1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:42.120
<v Speaker 2>love and friends and that's different. But I'm talking about

1:36:42.160 --> 1:36:45.519
<v Speaker 2>companies because they're stressful. You build them, do it and

1:36:45.600 --> 1:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>then you let somebody become the machine and move and

1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:52.040
<v Speaker 2>you either sit back and just get residuals forever, or

1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you put it in a place where it's gone and

1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you win and you can relax. It's about buying an

1:36:56.760 --> 1:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>island and you know, growing your own fruit, stuff like that.

1:37:00.680 --> 1:37:03.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, nothing is something is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it is and well, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for cooking for me. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably hands down one of the best storytellers, most animated.

1:37:15.800 --> 1:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I loved hearing your story and thank you so much

1:37:21.080 --> 1:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>for taking time out of your day of course to

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<v Speaker 1>come down here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate you. I'm sycause oh yeah, I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>AI goggles too.

1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>He got the AI and I'm obsessed with as.

1:37:35.160 --> 1:37:36.639
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'm gonna be we got a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of different stuff.

1:37:39.120 --> 1:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Your I could be your test, the person that tests,

1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:43.280
<v Speaker 1>because I'll keep it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you pass out, I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just.

1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:52.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, but I'm saying like I could be like

1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the critical reviewer. I'll be like, I'll keep it all

1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the way real, no filter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna see. I just created a pet s D

1:38:00.479 --> 1:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>program through sound therapy through frequent ancient frequencies like war

1:38:05.120 --> 1:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>drums and waterfall and stuff. And I'll give you that

1:38:08.040 --> 1:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>and see how you feel after going through like the

1:38:10.680 --> 1:38:15.800
<v Speaker 2>PTSD UH sound frequency. It's to to to calm like

1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:18.600
<v Speaker 2>for really for the military, for people that are overseas,

1:38:18.720 --> 1:38:21.439
<v Speaker 2>to calm their nerves when they're in the middle of Iraq.

1:38:21.520 --> 1:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>You can zone out and jump into you know, or

1:38:23.960 --> 1:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>wherever you're at, jumping to a frequency therapy program that

1:38:28.360 --> 1:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>actually is a real therapeutic situation. That's happening, and you

1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>can you know, select being wherever you want to be

1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:37.599
<v Speaker 2>on a beach or you know wherever, and it's real time,

1:38:38.000 --> 1:38:40.280
<v Speaker 2>it's real, it's heavy, it's crazy to try it.

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<v Speaker 1>Reviewer, Yeah, please be a hard reviewer. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be excited about it too.

1:38:45.680 --> 1:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then the tech ain't gonna stop, so you

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<v Speaker 2>just stay tuned.

1:38:49.160 --> 1:38:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I got I'm coming up with a lot of stuff, creates.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do Yeah, rock star follow me of course, rock

1:38:55.240 --> 1:38:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Star music R O C C S C A R

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<v Speaker 2>music on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you heard it here first While Broke, peace out guys, Yes,

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