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Speaker 2: We are.
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Speaker 1: we got a brother. We gotta love one.
Speaker 2: We you know, we gotta start saying to the authority
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Speaker 1: You heard it, he said that I can come from
Speaker 1: now on because everything come come along with R and B. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make the intro too long. Man.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, the change you might make everybody mad.
Speaker 1: The change is big and the money's long. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: come on, man, come on man. First, first, let me
Speaker 1: say like this, let me say this, let me let
Speaker 1: me get this off my chest. First of all, O
Speaker 1: T is the nicest, nicest, funniest guy in the world.
Speaker 1: When I say, in the world, in the world, always smiling.
Speaker 4: But don't play with it, don't play with don't play
Speaker 4: with him, don't play with his people because for the
Speaker 4: smallest thing, I'm talking the smallest thing, O T will
Speaker 4: go there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, big, bro, what's what's going on, Oh, man,
Speaker 1: he brought me some cold fries. Cold fries. God, who
Speaker 1: brought to the fries? Oh, it's just fighting. It's the principal.
Speaker 1: They taking your kind of weakness. God, they trying to
Speaker 1: say you cold out here, you caught out the street. Up,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a hundred niggas. It's just fright. It's
Speaker 1: the principal car.
Speaker 3: He will go, hey, listen, that's movie.
Speaker 1: He can really fight. That's the problem. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: But I love it because nigga, he's standing on all
Speaker 1: the business. If he's fucking with you and he got
Speaker 1: love for your nigga, you're not gonna let nobody play
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah yeah, it starts there. Yeah yeah. Oh.
Speaker 1: This is a few incidents I could go into. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, stop it, please don't do this.
Speaker 5: I let nobody play with my role. Man, it ain't happening.
Speaker 5: We'll be heavy that switch. I don't be sad. I'll
Speaker 5: be saying for the other we're just bowling. I'm a
Speaker 5: bonus nigga. I'll be having to go back to the
Speaker 5: people and apologize.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry my little brother. You know, he's laughing,
Speaker 1: like because I really was like, it's tired. You mean
Speaker 1: what you mean?
Speaker 3: He he just love heart.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry my life was in it was, but don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. He's fine. Man, oh man, I just
Speaker 1: had to get that off of my chest. Man brother,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Oh, you know, we've had many a
Speaker 1: deep conversation man, and you know, I think that for
Speaker 1: me and of course I can speak for Jay bringing
Speaker 1: you here on the R and B Money Podcast. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's one of those things where you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe as an overall title, you consider yourself
Speaker 1: a rapper. I consider you a songwriter for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I consider you a hit songwriter. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And you've done that, whether it just be rap, or
Speaker 1: whether it be melodic, or whether you go ahead and
Speaker 1: just fucking sing, get your remix on it to it.
Speaker 1: Like you've done all of that. And I think that
Speaker 1: that conversation is and that information is important for everybody
Speaker 1: all across the border. So let's go. Let's go back
Speaker 1: to the beginning. That's what that's what was. What was
Speaker 1: a little old tie doing the beach?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, I was, I was in like I
Speaker 5: was in long Beach, running around, you know, shooting dice
Speaker 5: at school, you know, selling candy for some money, you know,
Speaker 5: all that type of stuff. Obviously, Like I'm from Long
Speaker 5: be so you know we have a certain type of
Speaker 5: thing over there. I don't know if you say that
Speaker 5: on this say what you want to say for you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you know we come from like cript culture and
Speaker 5: everything like that. I wanted to play football, but I
Speaker 5: was bad as hell, so I was always ineligible. You know, you.
Speaker 1: Know, look at you right now. I got nigga fast.
Speaker 1: He ain't got a grade. I know that nigga fastest,
Speaker 1: low hissy grade, make sure he don't play here.
Speaker 5: So my grades was bad, but I never I never.
Speaker 5: I never got to like I'm one of the dudes
Speaker 5: that like, I always used to get confused. And then
Speaker 5: I start saying for school only because I like go
Speaker 5: there and I like, do I do good?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 5: I finish all my homework and then fail all the
Speaker 5: time because I would never like retain I can retain
Speaker 5: the information. I'll just make sure I complete what I
Speaker 5: need to complete, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 5: and so I started doing music. Then like by the
Speaker 5: time I'm like sixteen, but then I went to like like.
Speaker 1: Seven high schools you went to.
Speaker 5: I went to like seven, yeah, because I was Yeah,
Speaker 5: because everybody wanted me to go to their school.
Speaker 1: I'll be over there next week. It's not a party.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull up.
Speaker 5: No, I got I got kicked out of all of
Speaker 5: all the schools I was.
Speaker 1: I was, I was going to it.
Speaker 5: So I got kicked out at every school I went to,
Speaker 5: and then I found in high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Because I was getting I was getting kicked out of
Speaker 5: like districts and so and so I would so I
Speaker 5: would start like in one and then I go like,
Speaker 5: I gotta go from gonna be so Serritos.
Speaker 1: We don't want you to go to any of these
Speaker 1: ten schools, right, you can't go to none of it.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is you've been doing club hosting.
Speaker 3: You permitt.
Speaker 5: He only had two hour requirements. He come to his
Speaker 5: hour and a half. I was kidding so like because
Speaker 5: they were like I was so bad. They were like,
Speaker 5: now we kick you out of the district, not out
Speaker 5: of the school. It's not gonna expel you from the school.
Speaker 5: You're gonna go down there and do the same ship.
Speaker 5: So we get kick out whatever. But I was doing
Speaker 5: music and I used to like go online and go,
Speaker 5: I want to go back to something real quick, go
Speaker 5: to the music.
Speaker 1: I want to go to this. I was so bad
Speaker 1: because I was really bad in school. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: don't know why I was really bad at school, Like
Speaker 1: I was just up for whatever challenge, whatever another nigga
Speaker 1: wouldn't do right right right before. It was before I
Speaker 1: got to high school, right before I found the Lord.
Speaker 1: The Lord changed me, but before that, and the psychologists
Speaker 1: tried to give me, you know, all these reasons as
Speaker 1: to why, and your parents and they left you early
Speaker 1: and went overseas without you. It's just your rebel. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm not rebeling. The nigga just said
Speaker 1: you want to fight, and I was with it. Teacher
Speaker 1: said some bullshit and I called him the asshole. I
Speaker 1: was That's just what I was on. What was your thing?
Speaker 1: What was it that made you that way? Was it
Speaker 1: just you was just like taking all challenges.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, especially when I left Long Beach because
Speaker 5: when you kick me out of school, I'm like it
Speaker 5: was kind of like I felt that like I was
Speaker 5: already I was already bad because like like when I
Speaker 5: had to always to.
Speaker 1: Catch the bus. So I catch the bus.
Speaker 5: When I get to like the train station, like they're
Speaker 5: banging on you a train station for those who don't
Speaker 5: know what's like where are you from?
Speaker 1: So you start to get it, you get in that energy.
Speaker 5: I already had that energy before I even get to school,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And then we like shoot
Speaker 5: dice at the McDonald's outside of my school in the morning,
Speaker 5: like so we'll try to get with that's that that
Speaker 5: that's what makes us get up early.
Speaker 1: You know, you said, we gotta we.
Speaker 5: Gotta shoot dice at McDonald's before we before we across
Speaker 5: the street. And so but some time, but my, my, my, my,
Speaker 5: you know, all through my youth, I have to catch
Speaker 5: the bus and catch the training. That's when you run
Speaker 5: into niggas and you run into.
Speaker 1: Whoop and where you're from. Oh oh damn.
Speaker 5: We gotta get off on this stop because over there,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 5: And so so then when I when I left Jordan
Speaker 5: My my my main school, that's like my homeschool across
Speaker 5: like down street from my.
Speaker 1: And I left out of Long Beach.
Speaker 5: I'm always looking at other niggas different, you know, because
Speaker 5: they looking at me and I'm like, you know, so
Speaker 5: I'm instantly it's a it's a defense mechanism, you know.
Speaker 5: And but I'm like, I'm ripping, and I'm like I
Speaker 5: always now now I'm I'm I'm always trying to prove
Speaker 5: myself to somebody, you know what I mean, and prove
Speaker 5: that I ain't no bitch, I ain't no that I
Speaker 5: come from here. You know, So when somebody says something
Speaker 5: to you here, even if it's not even if it's
Speaker 5: not like really threatening like that, you take it like
Speaker 5: that because you know, you come from a certain place.
Speaker 5: So I can't the way I'm trying to collect this
Speaker 5: information that you're telling me right.
Speaker 1: Now, different, it all, it all feels, it all feel
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And so you mean by that, yeah, so
Speaker 5: I would I would do that. I would do that,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I had like I used
Speaker 5: to have like my you don't have the eye, the
Speaker 5: I seven thirdys and next tails and all that, you know.
Speaker 5: I used to do that bring like, yeah, call my homies,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like bring guns to school.
Speaker 5: I used to have my little douce fires and my
Speaker 5: little backpack and everything like that. Like I used to
Speaker 5: be like I used to be like on bullshit unto you,
Speaker 5: was really out of control. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but
Speaker 5: but yeah, but it was like because every time I
Speaker 5: get on a bus stop and I get on the train,
Speaker 5: they got this thing called.
Speaker 1: The Blue Line, right la, and they go from Long Beach.
Speaker 5: You got the Long Beach station, the Artisa station, then
Speaker 5: you got the Wilmington station, which is Compton. Then you
Speaker 5: got the one hundred and third station which is Watts
Speaker 5: you know, and your shit keep going all the way
Speaker 5: from Long Beach or downtown today somebody. So you're going
Speaker 5: through every hood and when you get off, you get
Speaker 5: off the train. You know, it's sometimes Nigga is sitting outside.
Speaker 5: They just sitting outside the train station tripping, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like just nobody want no money, no nothing.
Speaker 5: We just hear trip you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: so I was always moving that way to protect myself.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I'm like overly protective about myself. But
Speaker 5: at the same time, I'm like I'm like I'm aggressive
Speaker 5: because I'm overly protected by myself.
Speaker 3: And at sixteen, you can't turn that on and off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like, oh, now I'm in a classroom.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna turn.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna turn this this this tripping off.
Speaker 1: No, I'm tripping on.
Speaker 5: Everything because I gotta be like this happened to protection,
Speaker 5: So I gotta be like this for nothing, nothing that
Speaker 5: happened to me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you got initiated, so motherfuckers. No exactly exactly him alone, exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting for a nigga run up on me.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, as soon as I get off, I'm
Speaker 1: saying it instantly. I ain't.
Speaker 5: And I always felt like I had to be that way,
Speaker 5: you know, and that obviously that's what got me kicked
Speaker 5: out of all these damn schools. You know, there's others
Speaker 5: I gotta be. I always feel like I had to
Speaker 5: be the rest, you know. So he was going into
Speaker 5: the computer, into the music. Yeah, so so I would
Speaker 5: I would look on online and I would see certain
Speaker 5: things where damn, what's that site was back then?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, where they like sell stuff in
Speaker 5: cars and and craigs, right, and then like people were
Speaker 5: like you know, and they just like people would put
Speaker 5: up like shows into where you like artist gotta sell
Speaker 5: tickets and everything. And back then they had shine heagely
Speaker 5: they had all this all this stuff right.
Speaker 3: Where that's what is that golden voice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 5: And so like they would have like artists perform, but
Speaker 5: you had to sell like ten tickets, but what get
Speaker 5: to get on the show. So it's like if I
Speaker 5: sell team, he sells tea, he sell he sellt We
Speaker 5: got a packed show and all our people was there.
Speaker 5: So I would that's what that's what I would do whatever.
Speaker 5: But every time I performed, it was like, damn, you're
Speaker 5: a great performer. You da da da We love your music, Blase,
Speaker 5: but this is me young, you know. And I kept
Speaker 5: doing that, kept doing that, kept doing that, and you know,
Speaker 5: you you start to meet people, and you start to grow,
Speaker 5: and people start to grow, you know, as you guys
Speaker 5: are going up and and then I start meeting people.
Speaker 5: That's like they're like, yo, we're gonna put you on
Speaker 5: this show. And you know, you win this contest, you
Speaker 5: you do a song with Lil Wayne, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, like what and then you know, then they
Speaker 5: have this and then but the whole time they like
Speaker 5: they finishing you your bread you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And so they trying to figure out who can sell
Speaker 5: the most tickets, so you can sell thirty, you know,
Speaker 5: thirty tickets at ten ten dollars each or twenty twenty
Speaker 5: dollars each, you know, and just how the people how
Speaker 5: they was making money. So so years after that go
Speaker 5: by and I do a song out here. It was
Speaker 5: a song called Touchdown that I did, and I met
Speaker 5: this guy there and this guy so I think it
Speaker 5: was a Jamaican guy. He was like, yo, you signed
Speaker 5: and signing anybody. I'm like nah, He's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 5: I got I got, I got somebody you know for
Speaker 5: you to talk to. I'm like, okay, cool. So so
Speaker 5: coming to happen. The guy that he was talking about
Speaker 5: was his name was Dino's name was Dino Devaye. So
Speaker 5: he had signed cast Money and he was trying to
Speaker 5: sign fifty. But when he was trying to sign fifty
Speaker 5: at University originally before fifty went to in the scope
Speaker 5: and so he's still but University didn't want to sign
Speaker 5: fifth because of all the shit. The gun was so like,
Speaker 5: well now we're not signing him, so I guess, so
Speaker 5: Fifth still kept a relationship with him because he was
Speaker 5: trying to make something happen, you know. And then he
Speaker 5: sent over the music. So Dino sent over the music
Speaker 5: to Fifth, and then Fifth called me and I'm helping,
Speaker 5: Like I'm helping my boy move. I got a refrigerator,
Speaker 5: Like I'm want a dolly helping my homeboy move out
Speaker 5: of his apartment.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, they like yo, da da da da da.
Speaker 5: Some guy get on the phone. I'm on the phone
Speaker 5: with Dino. Then he goes, yo, yeah, yeah, that guy's fifty.
Speaker 5: What someone the phone?
Speaker 1: What's up? Niggah? So now me and Fifth on the phone,
Speaker 1: we're talking for like an hour. You still have refrigerator.
Speaker 1: So so look I got the I got I got
Speaker 1: all of It's like we got all. We got the
Speaker 1: truck right there.
Speaker 5: We're really moving, bro, like I'm really helping him move.
Speaker 5: And so Fifth it's like, yo, so we chopping up.
Speaker 5: He's like, look, man, we gonna do something. So listen
Speaker 5: when we get off this phone. I think he said
Speaker 5: he was. I remember he was like, we got the phone.
Speaker 5: Don't go around telling your whole hood you.
Speaker 1: Rich, right.
Speaker 3: He was like the last thing like yeah.
Speaker 5: He said, don't go around telling your whole hood you rich, right,
Speaker 5: and so he was like, I'm gonna come meet you
Speaker 5: in l A.
Speaker 1: All right, cool, So he came meet me in l A.
Speaker 5: We chopped it up and then that's around the time
Speaker 5: he was doing like his s K headphones, his his
Speaker 5: energy dreams, all that stuff. So we was running around,
Speaker 5: was like me and him and Floyd. That's when him
Speaker 5: and Floyd was like super tight. And but I didn't
Speaker 5: know what a single deal was. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You just know you got to deal song for the
Speaker 5: time exactly, and so okay, boom. So now that deal
Speaker 5: is over and I'm kind of like, yoh, what's going on?
Speaker 5: What's going on? Is going but I'm not knowing that
Speaker 5: this is a single diss, this is for one song
Speaker 5: you've been signed for. And I was okay, cool, But
Speaker 5: I always say it in contact with him, I always
Speaker 5: check you know, I mean check in, check in whatever.
Speaker 1: So maybe I'm not. So I tell Dino who song
Speaker 1: came out?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it came out, it came out, Yeah, it came out,
Speaker 5: and it was all right. But then I tell Dino
Speaker 5: became my manager at that time, I think he made
Speaker 5: the place. So I'm like, what's going on? So, you know,
Speaker 5: this is just a single deal, was like, this is
Speaker 5: how things work or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I thought I was fifty forever, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, yeah, chef is on that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Wow, man, you gotta come through, you gotta come through you.
Speaker 1: So I don't you know, I don't know. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm so I'm new to this and whatever. So I
Speaker 5: just buggled down, kept recording.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 5: Three years later, I mean, playhouse out here and I'm performing,
Speaker 5: and then I meet Buster and the busts like yo,
Speaker 5: we're starting to I'm like nobody.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, let's go talk to the studio. In
Speaker 1: the studio, let's go talk about cool. And then when
Speaker 1: I go home, like, what's up all these New York niggas?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I'm right here, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And so.
Speaker 5: And so I meet him at the studio. We start
Speaker 5: chopping it up. We started talking about life and and
Speaker 5: and principles and you know everything. I was telling him
Speaker 5: like as a man, like you know what, I go forward.
Speaker 5: I ain't going for while you know things like and
Speaker 5: and so be cool. So he goes to Atlantic, gives
Speaker 5: me a deal at Atlantic. You know when they give
Speaker 5: him a label deal. They give me a deal, get
Speaker 5: a label deal.
Speaker 1: It was to me.
Speaker 5: And so now they gave me some money. Nigga, I
Speaker 5: ain't recorded for damn near a year.
Speaker 3: Right off of your advance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm spending the money, right, I'm busy. So I'm
Speaker 1: spending the money. Now, you got it.
Speaker 3: Now you have a full record, right right right.
Speaker 1: I have a full record deal.
Speaker 5: So now I'm not knowing that. I just know they
Speaker 5: gave me some money. Nobody's teaching me.
Speaker 1: And why here is this?
Speaker 5: This is two thousand and fourteen. Wow, okay, wait yeah, no, no,
Speaker 5: it's twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: It was thirteen. And then the December of twenty.
Speaker 5: Thirteen when it's happened, and so it to like August
Speaker 5: and the A and R comes my A and R riggs.
Speaker 5: At the time, he came with some verbiage. I don't
Speaker 5: know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: So I did. I'm like what he's doing.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, they're saying that they're about to drop you.
Speaker 5: You know, at the end of the year, you haven't
Speaker 5: put out no music, it's no, no, no nothing. I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh ship, So I'm panicking right.
Speaker 3: So because you that at this point they just paid
Speaker 3: you the party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was hoping, so look hoping that they gave
Speaker 1: me some money. I'm thinking, look right now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they gave me some money.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, y'all, ain't you know I had
Speaker 5: to like hustle for shit like this, like, y'all give
Speaker 5: me some money, Okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 5: We get into August. They gave me that conversation. We
Speaker 5: get the September, I dropped, I record Coco right, and
Speaker 5: I record Coco and I was about to shoot was
Speaker 5: about to shoot another video for a different song that.
Speaker 1: I did, right, so I should this. This is the
Speaker 1: coldest thing ever.
Speaker 5: So this song was about to put out and we
Speaker 5: shot a video, everything, big budget video everything. I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this shit is about to be lit right. And I
Speaker 5: saw the video and I was like, I don't like it.
Speaker 5: And this is when I start going. I started paying
Speaker 5: attention where I really start to understand videos and understand
Speaker 5: that editors make the video as well, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. So I'm like, what happened that scene? What happened,
Speaker 5: that scene, what happened and that seen you see? All
Speaker 5: those dope moments that made you excited about the video
Speaker 5: is not in the video. You go, oh, man I
Speaker 5: I don't like it. Then go so what you want
Speaker 5: to do? And then Bus like, so what you want
Speaker 5: to do? I'm like, man, I I don't like it.
Speaker 5: He said, you got another song? Like, I got another
Speaker 5: song I want to put out. This is exactly how
Speaker 5: I went. We're supposed to put the video the whole
Speaker 5: second song after no, No, No, this is this song. It
Speaker 5: was a song called Yum Yum that I did right,
Speaker 5: and we're supposed to put it out. I didn't like
Speaker 5: the video, big budget video, everything. I didn't like it.
Speaker 5: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not putting that I don't like it.
Speaker 1: So Bus looking at me like, so what you want
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 5: Oh Tam, And he's like stressed out, like what the
Speaker 5: we just shot a whole spend that money on you.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't want to do. I recorded some
Speaker 5: ship the other night that I want to do right cool.
Speaker 5: So he's like, all right, word me here. So that's
Speaker 5: SOM's Coco. You go shoot the video on the project.
Speaker 5: It ain't no budget, no more, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: But yeah, exactly, shoot that video. Everybody was scared, like,
Speaker 5: look at all this ship you put in the video
Speaker 5: or drop that bitch.
Speaker 1: And motherfucker that listen. I remember the first.
Speaker 3: Time I heard it.
Speaker 2: I remember, I want to say, I was in Graystone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what year is that? Twenty fourteen? Yes, yeah, around that time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that shit kicked in and I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is that? And we had no idea you
Speaker 2: was from California?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love that part.
Speaker 3: We had no idea you was from California.
Speaker 2: And I kind of want to go back to what
Speaker 2: when you were saying you were like all these cats
Speaker 2: from New York had reached out to you. Do you
Speaker 2: feel like the politic with the culture that y'all have
Speaker 2: in l A kind of kept people away from reaching
Speaker 2: out to you to do a deal.
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, let me tell you this short story.
Speaker 5: I used to run around with just dj DJ Amen Yeah,
Speaker 5: and Amen did everything to try to get me on,
Speaker 5: but they were like the music that he does, everything,
Speaker 5: he don't sound like a West Coast artist.
Speaker 1: This is what.
Speaker 5: People DJ's are saying right. And I used to a
Speaker 5: hustle in Atlanta all the time. I used to hustle,
Speaker 5: and so everybody was like, he's from Atlanta, He's I
Speaker 5: never said I wasn't. I never said nothing. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna play the game. And so it's crazy because
Speaker 5: your own city be like, oh, well, if you don't
Speaker 5: sound like you're from here, you're from here, then you
Speaker 5: ain't from here, you know what I mean. But nigga,
Speaker 5: I'm from here for shelfah. But they're like, oh, if
Speaker 5: you're gonna sound like you from here, then we can't
Speaker 5: give you that love like that because we feel like
Speaker 5: that's that maybe not it's maybe not deemed authentic to
Speaker 5: our culture, you know, as far as l he is concerned.
Speaker 5: And so when I understood that, I played the card.
Speaker 5: And by the time they realized bro from it was
Speaker 5: too late. So that when it was like, oh, you
Speaker 5: see walking over here long down the street, right, and
Speaker 5: anybody who knows here like, oh, he cold.
Speaker 1: So I just played the game the system.
Speaker 3: That's how it came That's how it came back.
Speaker 2: Now you had to love me, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 2: it worked out in your favor absolutely because that's how
Speaker 2: it came back around from Obviously, I'm from the Bay
Speaker 2: and man's from the Bay, and he had been telling
Speaker 2: me about right, and I didn't realize it was the
Speaker 2: same artists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize the same artist.
Speaker 2: Crazy because like you said, when you first hear Coco,
Speaker 2: you can't you really can't say where the.
Speaker 1: Artist where's from? Ye? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah, because for one, you're always yelling at people.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about. You like to yell.
Speaker 1: I know, the Spanish got torn.
Speaker 3: So funny, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm with Floyd Mayweather and the Strip Club. That's
Speaker 1: a great place to hear. He like, what's your take?
Speaker 1: What's your sake? That's so came on. I know he records,
Speaker 1: I know he records records. Like, who the fuck is
Speaker 1: what you're doing this? He's doing this? I said, what
Speaker 1: the fucking side, nigga?
Speaker 5: I went to the Strip Club, Floyd, Floyd went to
Speaker 5: Strict Club. He played that I was in there. Play again,
Speaker 5: play again. That was his favorite song, play back. You
Speaker 5: have to walk around with the what's the what's the ship?
Speaker 5: That not before that, before the iPhone, they had the
Speaker 5: I what was it?
Speaker 3: I it was like the little the I Pop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he used to walk around the ipid with the
Speaker 2: motherfucker headphones off.
Speaker 1: When I say that, Nigga played that song over, no,
Speaker 1: pretty much. It pretty much by bottles to it one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and one to Yeah, yep. I seen him.
Speaker 1: I've seen him.
Speaker 5: I seen him in the club go throw like eighty
Speaker 5: and it was all on Coco, back to back to
Speaker 5: back to back to back, and I'm in there like
Speaker 5: and and when when they come in with they coming
Speaker 5: with boxes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, They can with boxes. They
Speaker 1: got to put the money in the boxes.
Speaker 5: So it's too much and it's over and it's my
Speaker 5: ship though, and I'm like, this ship is crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Fact that it's not another song. Now, one
Speaker 1: other song.
Speaker 5: Come on, He's like, if you want me to keep
Speaker 5: throwing this money, keep playing this song.
Speaker 2: So so I'm going to I'm going to just guess
Speaker 2: that Atlantic didn't drop.
Speaker 5: You know, and that And at that point when I
Speaker 5: started to understand music, I said, damn, I wish they did.
Speaker 1: That and dependent.
Speaker 2: Because this whole time I thought that he had Coco
Speaker 2: Independent before you did that deal you didn't.
Speaker 1: You did that record? Because they literally that I dropped.
Speaker 5: I literally recorded Coco Boom with like September shot, the
Speaker 5: shot the video late September. Dropped Coco November twenty fourteen,
Speaker 5: and they say when they were supposed to drop me
Speaker 5: at the end of the year, So I probably had.
Speaker 1: Like one month month now.
Speaker 5: And mind you, mind you when I dropped it, they
Speaker 5: didn't service it. It just went got you boom and
Speaker 5: then they had to catch on lab. But it was
Speaker 5: it was too it was too big. It was too big.
Speaker 2: So how much do you think that cost you? The
Speaker 2: video would have been independent? How much money you think
Speaker 2: it cost you being signed to catch it?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, how much money do you think you
Speaker 1: would have got in your pocket.
Speaker 3: If you would have been in with that record?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't mean to make you mad to think about this,
Speaker 2: but you know, if you drop Coco as an independent artist.
Speaker 5: It takes all the same way.
Speaker 1: Label eighty five, fifteen, ninety ten. How many are sold.
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: What's the numbers today on Coco? For how much? How
Speaker 1: much I'm playing?
Speaker 5: Well, but I'm gonna take one thing, I tell you
Speaker 5: one thing.
Speaker 1: Because your performance royalties alone.
Speaker 5: My performance royalties is crazy alone. But how much money
Speaker 5: I made on the road just on just doing shows.
Speaker 1: Off of Coco. Like I'm like somewhere like in like ten,
Speaker 1: I can believe it. Yeah I'm talking yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 1: off Coca. Just off the yeah, just off the shows.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, just off show. And
Speaker 5: then I want you to go double back. And everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 5: he's a one hit winner, He's done it that. And
Speaker 5: I'm like I'm hearing this the whole time, right, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, ship, So what I'm gonna do. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: I'm still getting money on the road. And when I'm
Speaker 5: doing interviews, they asked me, so, what's next? You know
Speaker 5: what I did after that?
Speaker 1: Cut it boom, we're young question. Let me ask your question.
Speaker 2: Cut it cut I'm gonna tell you what he used
Speaker 2: to be doing when we be in the club.
Speaker 1: Would come on and that nigga take it. Just look
Speaker 1: at nig like that. I used to sing like a chirt.
Speaker 1: I used to sing like a thinking when he comes
Speaker 1: up and say cut it, cut it, cut cut it,
Speaker 1: cut it, cut it, cut law, you gotta cut it.
Speaker 1: Cut it from me long and breaks this way too.
Speaker 1: You gotta cut it along, cut it cut. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question because because now we're starting to
Speaker 1: get into Now we're starting to get into songwriting and
Speaker 1: consistency and understand and understanding and being a professional at
Speaker 1: this ship being able to dial it up on demand.
Speaker 1: When you did Coco, did you feel like you had
Speaker 1: found something that you took from uh just just just
Speaker 1: from a format standpoint to to do cut it or
Speaker 1: was cut it just a new build for you? Completely?
Speaker 5: I'm really I'm not even gonna lie. I was just
Speaker 5: drinking alcohol, and I'm.
Speaker 3: You want to write here, record kids, you want to
Speaker 3: write records.
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's just open like because like I'm not
Speaker 5: trying to promote drinking, right, But what I say is
Speaker 5: like when I'm when I'm drinking, like even with my personality,
Speaker 5: like the only thing it does is it you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, but I can be be really happy, really upset,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: But when I'm in a studio and I'm drinking, I'm in,
Speaker 5: I'm in I'm at home. You know, it's the vibes.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm in the club. I feel like
Speaker 5: i'm you know, And so I actually recorded, cut it
Speaker 5: and push it the same night, Go get the money.
Speaker 5: I record that shit the same night. I recorded them
Speaker 5: the same night, same night, the same night. Yeah and
Speaker 5: so and so.
Speaker 1: But it's not like you're encouraging like, oh, drink and
Speaker 1: you're gonna make hit records. I think you're speaking from
Speaker 1: a place of your just your comfort zone.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, studio, having a beverage, having.
Speaker 3: A good having Everybody has the methods.
Speaker 1: Everybody has their their environment.
Speaker 5: Because because when I was coming up and I was
Speaker 5: making music, it was always fun for me.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 5: Then when I start getting a deal and everything and
Speaker 5: I watch everybody else, I'm like, damn, everybody's so serious,
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm like, it ain't it ain't fun.
Speaker 5: No more so when you when you when you create
Speaker 5: that that lane to where it's fun again and you
Speaker 5: like a kid again, that's when you start making all
Speaker 5: like your best music, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 5: it's fun, you know. You know, sometimes we we you know,
Speaker 5: we're worry about criticism or other people, how other people think, whatever,
Speaker 5: But so much so much pressure, necessary pressure, But but
Speaker 5: you never felt that when you were trying to get on,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We were trying to get on. It was just like,
Speaker 1: this is who I am just doing that?
Speaker 5: You're singing your ass off, you're doing it. Nothing was
Speaker 5: a bad song. Nothing was that. Nothing was you keep
Speaker 5: listening to that ship your whole leader studio. You get
Speaker 5: a copy of that, you listening to the whole way home,
Speaker 5: like damn. And so I had to you know, with
Speaker 5: psychological for me. So I had to go, you know what,
Speaker 5: let's get back in that lane. Let me just have fun.
Speaker 5: And even if I don't court nothing tonight, that's okay.
Speaker 5: I bring people to the studio. Everybody, have a drink,
Speaker 5: y'all have a drink here. We're gonna party. Have whatever
Speaker 5: come to me, come to me. And if I don't
Speaker 5: record anything this night, that's what.
Speaker 1: That's okay.
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 5: I know what I came. I came to have a
Speaker 5: good time.
Speaker 1: And listen and within that good time, even if it's
Speaker 1: not that night, reflecting on that good time. Oh Ship,
Speaker 1: there's a record, there's a gym in there, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a moment where we was saying whatever we were saying,
Speaker 1: we'll put that in it. Like the experience is what
Speaker 1: makes the record. Yeah yeah, yeah, living this ship is
Speaker 1: what makes the records. You know. People ask me like,
Speaker 1: how do you stay current? I was like, I just
Speaker 1: stay alive. Yeah for real, that's how you say. I
Speaker 1: write about today. I write about things I actually do.
Speaker 1: I'm doing these things. I'm putting the ship on. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm that name in Marcus. I'm
Speaker 1: surfing through the through the drip. Yeah, you know. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm you know, I'm at the
Speaker 1: strip club, you know, so I know where they got
Speaker 1: the best chicken tenders. I know where the best impossible
Speaker 1: bird is. A magic city men there. So it's like
Speaker 1: as you as you live and you're in it and
Speaker 1: you stay in it. It don't matter if you do
Speaker 1: it that night or even even that. We don't put
Speaker 1: don't put that unnecessarily. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, guard ain't
Speaker 1: like that. Yep.
Speaker 5: You just know at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get back to the plate and I'm a bad again.
Speaker 1: That's it, so Coco. And then the second one is
Speaker 1: cut it, cut it, and then the third one is
Speaker 1: push it. And then after that was I didn't think
Speaker 1: thick with two chains.
Speaker 2: So did you what did you what did you realize
Speaker 2: though that you were doing or do you realize that
Speaker 2: you do motivational music?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: I feel like I can lift the whole gym when
Speaker 3: I'm listening.
Speaker 2: Now, teacher, okay, throw your whole back out.
Speaker 5: I was at the airport the other day in the
Speaker 5: air for the day.
Speaker 1: I was buying I buy some chips, and the.
Speaker 5: Lady was like, damn, I just got back from the
Speaker 5: gym listening to you, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 5: I and I never knew it like that. I just
Speaker 5: always because I used to like and still to this day,
Speaker 5: like like, I party so much and have a good
Speaker 5: time so much. So when I am like I spent
Speaker 5: so much time in the club, like girls just like
Speaker 5: you always in the club, I'm like, yeah, well my
Speaker 5: music is there too, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: What are you doing here? You do research? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: actually in there.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and so so I So I listened to
Speaker 5: the vibration, the sounds, I listened to the pockets, listening
Speaker 5: to other people like and so I start making recordster
Speaker 5: where it starts becoming like chance.
Speaker 1: You know, and I'm not knowing it, but I'm knowing it, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so when I spend the.
Speaker 5: Time in the club when I'm partying, then I said,
Speaker 5: I can hear what catches somebody, and I go, okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not gonna do exactly what that is.
Speaker 5: But if I do what I do and I get
Speaker 5: to catch them the way that caught them, then I'm
Speaker 5: you know, I'm good. So when I am in the studio,
Speaker 5: I'm in the club, you know, and and and I'm
Speaker 5: near and I'm like, what if I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: that i' sound right. Okay, Now I said too many
Speaker 5: words right here. It's not gonna be to the to
Speaker 5: the to the human ear.
Speaker 1: So I gotta what's catchy? What to be there?
Speaker 5: Okay, I say this, Okay, then I play it back.
Speaker 5: I'm like, alright, cool, I look good.
Speaker 1: I look like back. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's so much you giving real information right now, You're
Speaker 2: giving a masterclass in songwriting. Yeah, because listen, you know
Speaker 2: your pocket, you know where your music belongs.
Speaker 1: You make music for the club. You make music for
Speaker 1: the club.
Speaker 2: So okay, what are the elements of the club people
Speaker 2: are either singing off key.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, They really can't remember a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of shit because they might be drunk.
Speaker 2: So they need only a certain amount of words like
Speaker 2: you said, like okay, maybe I said too much. That
Speaker 2: is that is songwriting. That is truly songwriting. Somebody could
Speaker 2: try to you know, you got the purest of the world.
Speaker 2: That'd be like, oh no, you must do this, No motherfucker,
Speaker 2: you must take yourself away from your extreme talented self
Speaker 2: and say, what would these people, the person who hasn't
Speaker 2: been to Berkeley School of Music, what are they going
Speaker 2: to dance to? How can I motivate them in their lives?
Speaker 2: What do they want to ride around in the car?
Speaker 1: Too?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: Right, that's exactly what you've been doing.
Speaker 1: Right, And it's like who's in the club, who's in
Speaker 1: the class, who's my client? Who's my clean tale? Tell listen,
Speaker 1: it's drug dealers, it's gangsters and all the other niggas
Speaker 1: in there, the niggas that beautiful and the most beautiful women. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to put they put that ship on to be recognized
Speaker 1: or seen by the So you you you give them voices.
Speaker 5: And I also understand that that if I want to
Speaker 5: get the attention of these women, that's here.
Speaker 1: If I get the attention of these guys, that's here.
Speaker 5: These guys are the one that's paying for these tables,
Speaker 5: and these women are the ones that singing the song
Speaker 5: with these guys, because these guys are the guys with
Speaker 5: the money who's paying for so they attach themselves to them.
Speaker 5: So and so girls will go you see girls pull up. Uh,
Speaker 5: you go to a house party, go to even you
Speaker 5: go to a hooker lounge, go to whatever, and a
Speaker 5: girl grabbed the ice core.
Speaker 1: You're like, how she noticed she had heard this because
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 5: Hanging with that nigga over there with all that money,
Speaker 5: and she was hanging with him, and that's that became
Speaker 5: her favorite song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, research, research, Yeah, like that songwriting, being in those spaces. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta be in it. Yeah, you gotta be in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta be.
Speaker 2: You gotta gotta get some you gotta get some on
Speaker 2: you get yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. So it's like you just like.
Speaker 5: You're here and you go, okay, thinking like you're talking
Speaker 5: about something. You're talking about something valentime. You like y'all
Speaker 5: talking about this or this experience. Y'all singing to a
Speaker 5: woman and you talking about experiences that you had and
Speaker 5: all this stuff. But you guys never done this, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Or you guys never you know,
Speaker 5: please the woman this way, but you're talking about it's
Speaker 5: not gonna feel the same.
Speaker 1: It doesn't send off the same exact raations. It can't exactly.
Speaker 5: So when you're when you're there and you're doing that
Speaker 5: and you talk about that, that's when I.
Speaker 1: Don't write from a mystical place. I write from your reality.
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, yeah, now your reality, even if I
Speaker 1: got to write it ten times. Yeah. Nigga Tank always
Speaker 1: sucking up yeah in his songs, Well always I sucked
Speaker 1: up a lot better now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was run down the list of songs. Man. We
Speaker 1: were we were just we were just getting to some
Speaker 1: to some more songs.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with because as they were interviewing you,
Speaker 2: asking you what was next, think you was a one
Speaker 2: hit wonder, No no, and then you went crazy.
Speaker 1: You went crazy after that cut, after that push it,
Speaker 1: push it pushy, thick, thick it was thick.
Speaker 5: Who bay I look like looked like bee mm hmm. Everybody, man,
Speaker 5: let's started.
Speaker 1: Stop right there, Stop, everybody relaxed. We're gonna post up right.
Speaker 3: Here, get into the mondy everybody, Mari and you.
Speaker 1: You know who heard that? You know who heard that record? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dance that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: The Queen yeah said I need some of this for myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Listen, man, how does that feel? My
Speaker 1: brother from Long Beach kicked out of seven districts, told
Speaker 1: he was only gonna have well ship, wasn't promised life
Speaker 1: past eighteen right right right then you get an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I was told you're not gonna have another one of
Speaker 1: these right now? We five six in deep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we ain't talking about the track.
Speaker 1: We talked about the track. Beyonce the Queen, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what. Nigga cheers, Yeah, yeah, yeah it was
Speaker 1: a man.
Speaker 2: We got to this to this cheers, My brother cheers.
Speaker 1: The Queen says, I need these bars, I need this
Speaker 1: moment in my show, and you get to see that
Speaker 1: live with the choreography with the band. I mean, is
Speaker 1: this Coachella, I mean this is around.
Speaker 5: This is the first night the first time did yeah,
Speaker 5: the first the first time she did is Coachella.
Speaker 1: What goes through your mind when you see that?
Speaker 5: Now watch this? Okay, I had a show in North
Speaker 5: Carolina at the time. So I did a show in
Speaker 5: North Carolina, and then I had to do an after party.
Speaker 5: And I was on my way to the after party
Speaker 5: while this was going on to Coachella. And as I'm
Speaker 5: on way to the after party, my phone is blowing up.
Speaker 5: But I keep ending everybody because I'm on the art score.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to play. I'm trying to play my man.
Speaker 5: I was yeah, And so my brother called me. My
Speaker 5: older brother called me, yo, I'm what's up? You see what?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 5: I checked my I checked my Instagram. It's bumble bees
Speaker 5: everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1: What happened? I see it?
Speaker 5: Then I get to play it back and watching it? Oh, no, fucking.
Speaker 1: So my brother were going with it.
Speaker 5: Cham pushing, pushed the keys, push the kings.
Speaker 1: Push the keys. You know, and your and your travels
Speaker 1: and in the design of your melodies, You've you've You've
Speaker 1: come across some other R and B singers aside from yourself,
Speaker 1: aside from yourself, that you also thought were great in
Speaker 1: developing your style. T Who's your h top five, your
Speaker 1: top five Top Fun, You're tough, Bry saying, let's.
Speaker 2: Sure he can't out saying all me so honest thing
Speaker 2: that he can't out.
Speaker 6: Saying you man, you'll be dripping, You'll be cripping now
Speaker 6: you do, but we are know your top.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stop far.
Speaker 7: Oot fun, let's go, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah you still you still think you the kig? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh t ship your top five R and B singers,
Speaker 1: My top five R and B singers. Okay, who I
Speaker 1: love R and B man, so it's kind of already
Speaker 1: know you do.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I go with not in any order.
Speaker 1: I go with Beyonce. I mean you got to do that,
Speaker 1: you got to do that. You're gonna have some more
Speaker 1: bes under your episode. Yeah uh, I would say av.
Speaker 2: Yeah oh on real quick yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Niggas don't talk enough about a yeah, cold bloody yeah
Speaker 1: if my cold blooded Oh oh this is good. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's nice. I will go with Keith Sweat Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: new edition.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, because I'm not saying it because you hear,
Speaker 5: because you have one of my greatest songs that you
Speaker 5: still don't know that you do?
Speaker 1: You do know because I told you to sing it.
Speaker 1: Before I go a tank. God, damn it, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I can't make you love me.
Speaker 3: I remember your singing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I love that.
Speaker 3: For you to find a clip, I can't make that
Speaker 3: song where I love that song.
Speaker 5: Bro, I'm not gonna lie to you. I promise you.
Speaker 5: I love that fucking song.
Speaker 1: Brother. I don't don't know what where are you? What
Speaker 1: you was? What was going on? Where he was at?
Speaker 1: What part of we just left me and him? We
Speaker 1: just left King of Diamonds for real? Yeah? Circle House,
Speaker 1: circle House in Miami. Wow, still a little drunk. I
Speaker 1: didn't think circle House. Listen. They make record, make records
Speaker 1: and great cookies. Yeah, they make fire cookies. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said all the time.
Speaker 5: Because it's some it's something like a lot of people have,
Speaker 5: like a lot of you know, anybody have like big
Speaker 5: catalogs and everything in music, especially with R and B,
Speaker 5: you know, but it's certain songs that just were like, Damn,
Speaker 5: that's a fucking beautiful that's.
Speaker 1: That song right there. I always like, Damn, that's that ship.
Speaker 1: You know, every rapper had that R and B song.
Speaker 1: They wish that they that they that they you know,
Speaker 1: something that was like that one, that one you.
Speaker 3: Should read, you should remake. I can't make you let me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that be your next easy I gotta hear. I've
Speaker 1: seen him. I can't wait to drink. Starting to set
Speaker 1: in you. Maybe maybe the lyric can be you can't
Speaker 1: you can't cot me, niggas can out cut me. Trust me,
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. I know you, I know you are. Okay,
Speaker 1: your top five R and B songs, Okay.
Speaker 5: R Kelly, I decided dang, I can't make you love me? Obviously,
Speaker 5: it's one of my favorites. Beyonce, best thing I ever had.
Speaker 1: Wow Wow ray song. Right, yeah, Charlie Wilson, I can
Speaker 1: do magic.
Speaker 3: Come on, uncle Charlie.
Speaker 1: He sweat twisted. Yeah, yeah, you know she came in
Speaker 1: there like, but I got up the man. I got
Speaker 1: out of the.
Speaker 6: Wrong.
Speaker 2: That's when you got a great song. Yeah, nicking immediately
Speaker 2: down the immediately.
Speaker 1: Record. Sweat was right and own.
Speaker 5: It and what and they fucked it up with ls
Speaker 5: G too, with my body l G.
Speaker 1: He's the prototype. Yeah, you want to be you want
Speaker 1: to be like something in this R and B business.
Speaker 5: Swim I got too much and then like y'all putting
Speaker 5: me on the spots like, damn, I gotta.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it all changes every day. Yeah, every
Speaker 1: time you hear you. So did you like, oh Ship
Speaker 1: forget like it's too many? Yes, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make what's called the R and B voultron. Right,
Speaker 1: We're going to make your super R and B artists.
Speaker 1: So you need to decide, as we're building this artist,
Speaker 1: who you want to get the vocal from, who you
Speaker 1: want to get the performance style from, who you want
Speaker 1: to get the styling from, and who you want to
Speaker 1: get the passion from the heart of the artists, all
Speaker 1: of your R and B vocalists for your super R
Speaker 1: and B artists, your vultual You're getting the vocal from Ship.
Speaker 1: This is this is good?
Speaker 5: All right, I'm getting a vocal well damn okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: because I'm building the R and B artist.
Speaker 1: It's not okay, So I'm getting a vocal.
Speaker 3: Man, what.
Speaker 1: So it can't be me? Because I'm let me think
Speaker 1: real quick, because I'm clearly the best choice for There
Speaker 1: is no way I could pick anybody else.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm getting I'm getting the vocals from Roy Carrey, Monster,
Speaker 5: who're getting the performance style from.
Speaker 1: The performance stage.
Speaker 5: I'm getting the performance from Bobby Brown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who You're getting the styling from the drip.
Speaker 5: I'm getting the styling from I'm gonna style it from
Speaker 5: David ruff Yeah.
Speaker 1: Put the getting I'm getting that styllar. Yeah, custom like who,
Speaker 1: You're getting the passion of the heart of the artists.
Speaker 1: Who means I think I'm getting a passion from David Ruffing.
Speaker 3: Also, I got one more for him now. And what
Speaker 3: R and B singer would you want to steal the
Speaker 3: record from?
Speaker 4: Hm?
Speaker 1: Hmm what I want to steal a record from? Whose?
Speaker 3: Song? Who?
Speaker 6: Who? Who?
Speaker 1: Will be next? Oh? That a record that you're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I gotta get him.
Speaker 5: Oh, I have some ship in mind already too. It
Speaker 5: would probably have to be Mariah Carey the next one.
Speaker 5: I want to set this song from hit You're.
Speaker 3: Gonna hit the notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of look hold on hold on ship.
Speaker 1: He has way Oh my god, my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nigga mine as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so cold? Wait can now you're so cold?
Speaker 1: With sikes me.
Speaker 8: That songwriters, producers, artists on in every genre take notes,
Speaker 8: perfect what you do and just do more of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're there, we are there. I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: Ain't saying no names. We will what you did? Don't
Speaker 1: say she I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nigga, we've come to that part of this show.
Speaker 1: Talk to him.
Speaker 2: We can't go ahead, yea, yeah, yeah, you need you
Speaker 2: need a poet real quick. Okay, okay, So right now
Speaker 2: we had this special segment. It's called I Ain't saying
Speaker 2: no names? Will you tell us a story? Funny and
Speaker 2: fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? On the journey
Speaker 2: in the Travels of O T Genesis. The only rule
Speaker 2: to the game you can't say no names, no names.
Speaker 1: So this is funny. So I went. I went bowling.
Speaker 5: With this specific artist when I'm saying no names, and
Speaker 5: he's like, let's.
Speaker 1: Do it, let's bowl. I feel I can whoop your ass.
Speaker 1: I feel like I could whoop your ass.
Speaker 5: And so me there, you know, I I had, you know,
Speaker 5: I have my baby mama with.
Speaker 1: Me, just girl with him chilling.
Speaker 5: So we're bowling. I win the first one, he won,
Speaker 5: the second, bestie three. I want the first one. He
Speaker 5: won the second one, and.
Speaker 1: Ass the third.
Speaker 5: One, but me, I'm not the winner. That's like, I
Speaker 5: just want one. I'm falling all over the floor.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm falling all over the floor. I'm screaming, I'm laughing.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, I got the ball. I'm
Speaker 5: throwing the ball down the other lane. I'm doing, I'm doing.
Speaker 5: I'm anything that's.
Speaker 1: The winner that I know.
Speaker 5: I'm the type of winner that if you beat me
Speaker 5: a hundred times, I beat you at once, You're gonna
Speaker 5: feel it because I'm gonna let you hold we ever
Speaker 5: play again after that.
Speaker 1: I got you. So so I'm doing all of the Waller.
Speaker 5: We go to the hook A lounge after we're chilling Hooker.
Speaker 5: He's still sick. He goes I'm like yeah. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 5: we're talking and I'm still talking about you know how
Speaker 5: many Grammys I want? You know how many grammys I got?
Speaker 1: He went to the Grammys. I said, you're still lost.
Speaker 1: So her.
Speaker 5: So he's talking like, but you know, I don't I
Speaker 5: don't got that. That was a rock. I mean, you
Speaker 5: know much breaks and so you know how much wool
Speaker 5: coming up? You know how wool that I'm talking. So Ever,
Speaker 5: grammy one, Yeah, it relates to someone.
Speaker 1: So now we get into a show where I take
Speaker 1: your Grammys from you. I don't came out know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about.
Speaker 5: You went to wool talking about so now my baby mama,
Speaker 5: she's uneasy.
Speaker 1: His girl is uneasy.
Speaker 5: We made it so weird for the girls, right, we
Speaker 5: made it so.
Speaker 1: Weird for the girls.
Speaker 5: They looking like they're apologizing to each other.
Speaker 1: We're going far talking about this grammy.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about your grammy. I don't give a about
Speaker 5: none of that. You know, you know what I'm driving.
Speaker 5: You know that it became a whole thing from bowling right,
Speaker 5: And I really want to still say his name, but
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I take your brand because I already
Speaker 5: know where you went.
Speaker 1: I have a hundred niggas outside. Niggas wait right now,
Speaker 1: niggas take your whole grammy. Yeah, I got the.
Speaker 5: Won't give a funk about none of that. You talking
Speaker 5: about you? You're talking about some grammy. I said, good,
Speaker 5: because you fool.
Speaker 6: With you? Man?
Speaker 1: How you get from Grand's the brickstand?
Speaker 5: Because no, because because I wasn't I wasn't trying to be.
Speaker 1: I just don't want the game. But he was got
Speaker 1: so mad.
Speaker 2: The way you won too, You fell all over the
Speaker 2: you come on man, accountability, accountability.
Speaker 5: So you get when I say he was going crazy
Speaker 5: with the Grammy talk. Oh my god, I said, brood
Speaker 5: a bunch of grammars. You still lost. First of all,
Speaker 5: you're a sore loser. You lost the sore winner.
Speaker 1: The sore winner him a sored loser. You won't let
Speaker 1: me do my dance. You won't let me dance on
Speaker 1: your face like you you.
Speaker 5: But but it's brotos So it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 5: the drop of a dime.
Speaker 2: He started tripping, tripped. I want to bring up something new,
Speaker 2: something is really important and something that I know that
Speaker 2: you have been there they they passionate about. Yeah, autism absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 2: can you kind of give because you know, we we
Speaker 2: love to bring attention to causes, to you know, to
Speaker 2: different things that people are behind and that people support.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people in the black community don't
Speaker 2: talk about it a lot. Yeah, but a lot of
Speaker 2: our families have kids, yeah who you know are dealing
Speaker 2: with autism.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's like right now, I think
Speaker 5: it's like one and every eight black children, black.
Speaker 1: Little boys, black boys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so yeah, it's definitely something that, you know,
Speaker 5: something that we need to touch on. But if you don't know,
Speaker 5: you know, autism is a neurology disorder.
Speaker 1: You know, and most of the kids.
Speaker 5: No, like with my son, my son he's thirteen now,
Speaker 5: my oldest son, that's or something.
Speaker 1: He's thirteen now.
Speaker 5: We found out around the time he was like maybe
Speaker 5: what like two two and a half three years old,
Speaker 5: you know, when you call him and then like he
Speaker 5: couldn't even the answer. Was kind of like he had
Speaker 5: selective hearing, but he just wouldn't answer. You say his name,
Speaker 5: his name, say his name. Figure it out.
Speaker 1: A lot of.
Speaker 5: Parents to this day, right, it's they're in denial. I
Speaker 5: was about to you know what I mean, And they
Speaker 5: don't want to get there, you know, they don't want
Speaker 5: to get their kids checked or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Find out they hid him the spectrum. It's kind of like, no,
Speaker 1: he's not.
Speaker 5: That or that, but they don't a lot of women
Speaker 5: don't have women or men don't have the information.
Speaker 1: They don't know what autism is.
Speaker 5: And it's best to get your you know, your child
Speaker 5: checked early at an early age because mom my son
Speaker 5: is he's he's not severe, but a lot of that
Speaker 5: at being that we were on it early, early, early, early, early, early,
Speaker 5: and and it was the sad part about it is
Speaker 5: my my son's mom.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is the.
Speaker 5: Sad part, but the sad part about life. And like people,
Speaker 5: my son's mom, I was in a position to where
Speaker 5: I can make sure that she didn't have to work,
Speaker 5: because it's it gets crazy when both parents have to
Speaker 5: still make money for the household and one is going
Speaker 5: and one is going, and so it's like just sending
Speaker 5: them to speech therapy is okay, cool, but you still
Speaker 5: need to work on your child at home every day.
Speaker 5: And a lot of a lot of kids don't have
Speaker 5: done because my mommy got to go this way, Daddy
Speaker 5: got to go this way, and then we got to
Speaker 5: pick up the child, and so some of those and
Speaker 5: then also at the same time, mommy and daddy's probably
Speaker 5: tired from working, and so now the child is not
Speaker 5: getting all the help that he needs in order to
Speaker 5: you know, to become you know better, And.
Speaker 1: You know, like I had, my.
Speaker 5: Son's mom was She's always there, She's all about my son,
Speaker 5: she's all over my son, she's all over my son.
Speaker 5: It's not about like this steam words. So yeah, we're
Speaker 5: gonna have fun and we'll run around to the club.
Speaker 5: And my investment is making sure my child is you know,
Speaker 5: is everything he needs, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, there is going to
Speaker 5: be a time where we, you know, God willing, you know,
Speaker 5: we die before our kids do, you know, and it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a time where they're left here, you know.
Speaker 5: And I was told a story from this one kid,
Speaker 5: and he's autistic, but he's you.
Speaker 1: Know, he's better now.
Speaker 5: But he was saying, like you know, at a younger ages,
Speaker 5: like especially with the tantrums and everything that they throw.
Speaker 5: He he knew what he wanted to say, the words
Speaker 5: just wouldn't come out of his mouth. And that's what
Speaker 5: made him more frustrated and more frustrated and more frustrated
Speaker 5: and more frustrating.
Speaker 1: You see all this, you know, to act out exactly.
Speaker 5: But I think that us as parents, black parents, white, like,
Speaker 5: we just have to pay attention to our kids, you know,
Speaker 5: and stay there, stop being in denial because all that
Speaker 5: time you're being in now your child is losing from
Speaker 5: becoming better.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: All that shit is repetition time is of the essence
Speaker 1: when you talk about autism. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like really being able to get into those because now
Speaker 1: now that we've identified it, you know, as a society
Speaker 1: and even medically, it's on a whole other level now
Speaker 1: to where there there's so many programs, so many different
Speaker 1: whether it be schooling and whether it be like even
Speaker 1: gathering places where they can have fun with other kids
Speaker 1: that are like them, right right, there's so many things
Speaker 1: in place now. But it goes back to that one
Speaker 1: thing you said, you have to pay attention to your
Speaker 1: kid and get them to help early or you're gonna
Speaker 1: miss the window because being because you know, we like
Speaker 1: obviously we're human, we're human.
Speaker 5: So you go, oh damn, like you know, and they
Speaker 5: because you see somebody in the denial, You're like, no,
Speaker 5: you got to understand what that is, you know, And
Speaker 5: and no matter what, you know, God sat here for you.
Speaker 5: You have to take that and go, Okay, this is
Speaker 5: what I'm gonna deal with, you know, And and that's
Speaker 5: that's your job as a I see too many parents
Speaker 5: personally and they're.
Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, yeah and brush it off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the son is you know, obviously behavior is really
Speaker 5: really bad.
Speaker 1: Everything is really really bad.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying because because they're autistic, but because
Speaker 5: they also don't have to help. So you go year
Speaker 5: for year for year that child still hasn't improved because us,
Speaker 5: you know, that parent is like, well, we're just let
Speaker 5: the school deal with it, though, We're just let you know,
Speaker 5: you have to stay on top of your child.
Speaker 1: My son right now, he's he he was.
Speaker 5: Obviously it was like special classes, but now it's half
Speaker 5: and half, you know, so now he's in general and
Speaker 5: especial when he has straight a's. You know, my son,
Speaker 5: he's like he's sharp. He's like a super genius, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But most of times that's what it is. Though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they it's crazy because they lack. They lack the
Speaker 5: things that we're great at, and then we lack the
Speaker 5: things that they're great at.
Speaker 1: And they're really great at whatever that yeah, super yeah,
Speaker 1: So whether it be a communication thing with them or
Speaker 1: them or but but when when they're when they're down
Speaker 1: into what I always say is their purpose because I
Speaker 1: feel like autistic, you know, a lot of autism is
Speaker 1: like a hyper focus on on a true design and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's about identifying what that is once once somebody
Speaker 1: you know, in an autistic space find that thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, magic, yeah, great kids.
Speaker 1: Magic.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to I wanted to bring us stuf
Speaker 2: because I just know, you know how how much of
Speaker 2: an advocate that you are for and you know it,
Speaker 2: and it's to me, it's not brought up enough in
Speaker 2: our community right right, And it happened knowing how much
Speaker 2: it affects it happening to us, right, so you know,
Speaker 2: and just like you said, I think this conversation just
Speaker 2: hopefully it brings some awareness to someone who may have
Speaker 2: a young child that they're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2: It's like, right, go now, right, get them checked so
Speaker 2: that you can get in front of it right and
Speaker 2: that you can really help the child right now.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, no problem. That's really dope. Brother. Yeah. Well,
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