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Speaker 1: Mixtape where we bring you the latest and greatest in

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Speaker 1: black and Brown baseball players from the field to the

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Speaker 5: It's those classic kids with David Grubby grow podcast. It's

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Speaker 6: What's Up, Everybody?

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Speaker 7: I'm David Grubb, and welcome to another week of classic

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Speaker 7: hits on the MLB Bro Show podcast.

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Speaker 6: The mixtape.

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Speaker 7: There are very few stories in baseball like the one

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Speaker 7: about the tale of today's subject. Former Detroit Tigers Montreal

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Speaker 7: Ron Lafloor bad at three sixteen with twenty three doubles,

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Speaker 8: League Baseball apparently against it better than the foes from

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Speaker 8: for the mixtape. In eighteen sixty three, slavery in America

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Speaker 8: out the name Juneteenth was born. Now Major League Baseball

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Speaker 8: The diversity definitely was in the ballpark on Monday when

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 9: This is justin Patrilly with the Black Ace Report on

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Speaker 9: the MLB Bro Show podcast mixtape. Here's where you get

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Speaker 9: the latest on the Melany in Mount Marauders course, shuggling

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Speaker 9: Marcus Stroman. The strow Show has won a seventh consecutive

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