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Speaker 1: one nearest you. Chris Harrison freak, Chris freaking Harrison. Hey Chris,
Speaker 1: how are you bed sit right here? No? That was
Speaker 1: not the use it on my lap? Used it on
Speaker 1: my lap? Is Sarah? Sorry? I really have to put
Speaker 1: stupid headphones on you next to me. Well, that's true.
Speaker 1: Why we have headphones on because we're taking col Hey Chris, Uh,
Speaker 1: where's your drink? Uh, it's over there, it's on you,
Speaker 1: it's it's by your bed. So this is our first time,
Speaker 1: I guess technically drinking on the podcast. And I would
Speaker 1: just like to straight up say you might not know
Speaker 1: that often do it in your bedroom. I've never been
Speaker 1: drunk before. Thank you. That look Chris gave is what
Speaker 1: I say. And I've been with you for like four
Speaker 1: years an now, never been drunk. Never, I've never had
Speaker 1: the spins. I've never had anything. But why know what
Speaker 1: Sarah wanted to ask about that? Have you ever had
Speaker 1: a drink? Oh? Yeah, I see you look, and I'm
Speaker 1: drinking right now. I just stop at two glasses anxiety.
Speaker 1: Her definition of drunk is like wasting spinning. I think
Speaker 1: is drunk. But I've never had spins. I get I
Speaker 1: get a little. They don't get any of that. What
Speaker 1: does blotted me? Okay? But but you wanted to ask
Speaker 1: a question about I forgot. Oh yeah, so my first question,
Speaker 1: how let's just go right in? No, how do you
Speaker 1: get them? So drunk, not you specifically, Um, how do
Speaker 1: they get so drunk? Like, how do you get drunk? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: we're speaking on like specifically. Sorry the show now, but
Speaker 1: it's it's if you get drunk, it's really the same process. No,
Speaker 1: you don't have everything choice. One of the great things
Speaker 1: about alcohol, drugs, let me take your back whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it it really is a microcosm of life. Look, if
Speaker 1: you're the idiot that on night one gets spinny or blottoed, drunk,
Speaker 1: whatever phrase you kids like to use, um, then that
Speaker 1: that's something as as a bachelor bacherette, that's something I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to know. If I'm dating and I go
Speaker 1: out with you and you're puking in the parking lot
Speaker 1: after dinner because you just plowed through a bottle of wine,
Speaker 1: that's something I want to see. So if you want
Speaker 1: to drink on night one night to whenever knock yourself out,
Speaker 1: you can do that. Or there's a ton of people
Speaker 1: that don't really. Yeah, for example, you're more fun when
Speaker 1: you drink. No, I'm not. I'm I'm way not more fun,
Speaker 1: way not very defensive. I'm wait at mar fun. No
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not more fun drunk. I'm actually more
Speaker 1: emotional when I drank wine. Les cry a lot. You
Speaker 1: want to talk about it besides the whole drunk thing,
Speaker 1: What what's the drama between the North Carolina South Carolina
Speaker 1: pageant queens? You know, I would love to tell you
Speaker 1: there's this great story, and I really don't think there is. Really.
Speaker 1: I think it's beauty pageant drama, which probably isn't really
Speaker 1: that sexy and deep. Um. Whether your team Hannah or
Speaker 1: team Klina, one of that's calin like her. So she
Speaker 1: either one or finished, finished second or third, you know,
Speaker 1: fifth runner up, you know how they do that in pageants? Um.
Speaker 1: And then the other one didn't clap or something. It
Speaker 1: wasn't happy, wasn't happy enough for her? I think, is
Speaker 1: this is how the story goes? This sounds about right
Speaker 1: the course and what dateline did a story or something
Speaker 1: and uncovered I don't know no, but that I think
Speaker 1: that it might be as deep as that, um that
Speaker 1: they were girls, and there are rumors that it goes
Speaker 1: deeper than that, and it goes to some other stories
Speaker 1: and emotional stuff. But it might just be that she
Speaker 1: didn't clap, im like I mean that that's that's pretty.
Speaker 1: That's that's not good. You know, I did I did
Speaker 1: you ever do a beauty pageant? Mike, Sarah? Have you
Speaker 1: because I'm from Texas like it was in beauty pageants?
Speaker 1: No where are you from Texas? San Antonio counts? I
Speaker 1: have an I have an ex wife from there? You do?
Speaker 1: And you have a bar there Barn Dallas, Barn Dallas,
Speaker 1: ex wife from San Antonio. New girlfriends good a country song.
Speaker 1: I saw that as weekly. I go, oh, you can
Speaker 1: have that. But he's got a girlfriend. Thank you, Barn
Speaker 1: Dallas and ext wife and Santa. That's a great, sir,
Speaker 1: that's very George. Can we talk about girlfriend? I mean
Speaker 1: I probably won't, but tell me all about her? How long? Where?
Speaker 1: When'd you meet? How did you meet her? Um? We
Speaker 1: met years ago? Really you're no longer a bachelor. We'll
Speaker 1: see how she being on the show? What's that? How
Speaker 1: is she like with you being on the show around
Speaker 1: all these beautiful women? Fine? I mean you know she, uh,
Speaker 1: we met years ago because she covers the show UM
Speaker 1: for Entertainment Tonight and so. But it was it was
Speaker 1: really interesting that we never really had a serious personal
Speaker 1: conversation for years. Um, I do a ton of interviews.
Speaker 1: Obviously been doing this for seventeen years, and I hate
Speaker 1: to say this, but a lot of times I just
Speaker 1: you just get in the mode and you're just going
Speaker 1: and blow you know how it is, and you're just
Speaker 1: you're not even really paying attention to who who's interviewing you.
Speaker 1: You're just giving the answers you're supposed to give, and
Speaker 1: you're moving on. Um. And then we finally actually had
Speaker 1: a real conversation. Okay, it was great. At what point
Speaker 1: do you get to the place like, was it assion
Speaker 1: a discussion between you and her of Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to be public about this. It was one of you
Speaker 1: kind of pushing each other more for that or was
Speaker 1: it a mutual decision that you guys kind of came
Speaker 1: to It was a little bit. It was more on
Speaker 1: her end, just because I have the ability to not
Speaker 1: care to a certain degree a lot more than she does.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for seventeen years, and I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: if it comes out i'm dating who does like like, really,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna hurt me, um, and so like fine,
Speaker 1: fire me, um, but no, it's it's so why would
Speaker 1: be fired? And I'm just kidding. I'm just That's my
Speaker 1: My point is, it just doesn't matter for me, you know,
Speaker 1: bar unless it's something scandalous or crazy or whatever, who cares. Um.
Speaker 1: I think for her, I think, you know, with her
Speaker 1: career and being a journalist and being good at what
Speaker 1: she does, and she is exceptional at what she does,
Speaker 1: she just was very you know, cogns into the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, she didn't want it to be misconstrued
Speaker 1: and you know, and anybody to think ill of it,
Speaker 1: and um. And so I just respected that. It was
Speaker 1: great and honestly, that was the best way to go
Speaker 1: about it for quite some time, was to just enjoy
Speaker 1: your lives. And I'm such a private guy anyway. My
Speaker 1: my private life has always tried I've tried to keep
Speaker 1: it so even when I was married, after my divorce whatever.
Speaker 1: I just I have my my kids and my my
Speaker 1: family and what I do on air and the shows
Speaker 1: I host, the shows I produce and all that, UM
Speaker 1: is great. I don't mind being out there in front
Speaker 1: of it, but my private life I've just kind of
Speaker 1: kept off the pages and it's worked well. Is it
Speaker 1: hard though? Being around I mean, I know the Bachelor
Speaker 1: has twenty five beautiful women. But I mean you're also
Speaker 1: around that too, So is that hard to then kind
Speaker 1: of be like, oh, there's something shining and bright over there,
Speaker 1: there's something shining and bright over there. Well, again, with
Speaker 1: age comes wisdom. Um. And I'm smart enough to know
Speaker 1: I was married for a long time and have dated
Speaker 1: now for you know, almost a decade too, and the
Speaker 1: grass is never greener. So it's it's I'm so beyond
Speaker 1: that in my life. Um. And so now it's you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a problem when I was married, when a
Speaker 1: problem post marriage? Um, and obviously not a problem now.
Speaker 1: Do you think because you've been doing it for seventeen
Speaker 1: years you kind of I don't mean it's in a
Speaker 1: disrespectful way, but dehumanize the whole aspect where you're you're
Speaker 1: there for work, you do know, and and and it's
Speaker 1: it's a good point. It's it's more so because people
Speaker 1: have alway has asked me about this. Hey, it's not
Speaker 1: like we're all hanging around like this, sitting around drinking
Speaker 1: wine and sitting around in a hot tub. Nine times
Speaker 1: out of ten, I am more worried about what we're
Speaker 1: getting because it's it's my livelihood. This is my job,
Speaker 1: and is this is a baby I created seventeen years ago.
Speaker 1: I was trying to make good TV and if and
Speaker 1: whatever I can do to that end, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Um and and to your kind of what you said,
Speaker 1: it sounds terrible, dehumanizes it, but yeah, you don't look
Speaker 1: at everybody is people And there's a couple of people
Speaker 1: in this room right now. And it's funny because I've
Speaker 1: gotten to know both of them much better and become
Speaker 1: friends after the show. I wasn't friends with them on
Speaker 1: the show because that's not what you're doing, and you're
Speaker 1: not even having that personal conversation and really getting to
Speaker 1: know them. You're just you're You're doing what you need
Speaker 1: to do to create good TV. And then afterwards I
Speaker 1: often meet a lot of these guys and women am
Speaker 1: like wow, like you're you're really cool. Do you ever
Speaker 1: feel bad though you hear them in the wrong direction,
Speaker 1: like if you ever felt bad that you maybe put
Speaker 1: words in their mouth or maybe like hey, maybe you
Speaker 1: should do this to make the good The only time
Speaker 1: I really felt bad, and I mean, I'm sure if
Speaker 1: I thought more over seventeen years. But Ashley A. Bear
Speaker 1: Um had this dude on her show, some Canadian guy
Speaker 1: name escapes me, what was his name? He he had
Speaker 1: a girlfriend back home or something. I forget what the
Speaker 1: story was, and we just let it go a little
Speaker 1: too long and trying to let her find it out. Naturally,
Speaker 1: I should have stepped in a little sooner and and
Speaker 1: helped her and pushed her and pulled the plug because
Speaker 1: she was started. She started to fall for the guy,
Speaker 1: and so it hit her kind of hard. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it all ended up great, and her and yeah, and
Speaker 1: and I ended up marrying them, um, and so it
Speaker 1: all ended up great, and we're all good friends. I
Speaker 1: just wish and I told her, I wish I had
Speaker 1: stepped in a little earlier and not been you know,
Speaker 1: because what we try to do is let people figure
Speaker 1: out for themselves, right right, Well, yes, and but it's
Speaker 1: also there is this weird gray line that we've always
Speaker 1: never wanted to cry loss was say, say Colton, for example,
Speaker 1: right now, where you're hearing and seeing stuff on camera,
Speaker 1: he's not. People often say, well, why don't you just
Speaker 1: go tell him, Like, well, that's not the way it's
Speaker 1: supposed to go. It's not you know, if if I'm
Speaker 1: just tattle telling on everybody, and it's it's not going
Speaker 1: to work that way. So you want him to discover
Speaker 1: all this stuff as much as possible on his own.
Speaker 1: But with Ashley, I should have stepped in a little earlier.
Speaker 1: Is it the most dramatic season ever? Pretty freaking good?
Speaker 1: Why does he jump over the thing? You can't tell me, Henny,
Speaker 1: Why does a Colton jump over the fence? Yeah, to
Speaker 1: get away from the Harrison. Because I thought, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I want to watch. Just honestly, I
Speaker 1: wasn't that interested this season. Just I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just kind of wasn't. Maybe because we're busy, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just wasn't watching. But then I saw
Speaker 1: that preview and I was like, oh, it's a good season.
Speaker 1: I mean the ratings were up here now, we're up
Speaker 1: here today. We were crushing America's Got Talent Now number
Speaker 1: one show on Monday, So it's the show is doing
Speaker 1: phenomenally well again. Still, I mean, how many years can
Speaker 1: it go? Eventeen years and it'll go I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's not go anywhere. Do you think it can go
Speaker 1: on another fifteen years? The only thing that will take
Speaker 1: this show down. And I've always said this would be
Speaker 1: a catastrophic event some some incidents some whatever where on
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, well yeah, around the show or whatever.
Speaker 1: Because we have our base. Even when you have a
Speaker 1: season that's not highly rated, we still have our core
Speaker 1: and it does well. Then there are seasons that really peak,
Speaker 1: like Colton seems to be doing and we're trending up
Speaker 1: every week now with him, and once we get to
Speaker 1: this point, we're not going anywhere this season. It's it's
Speaker 1: fun when you get a season like this because when
Speaker 1: you're trending up and we from hour to hour to
Speaker 1: hour and week to week, it's only gonna go higher
Speaker 1: and you're just gonna see how high is it gonna go?
Speaker 1: And that's the fun. Those are the fun seasons. Then
Speaker 1: there's those seasons when you're like, oh god, when will
Speaker 1: it be over? Yeah, and you're like, shiny object, look
Speaker 1: over here. No one. Pablo was a well that that's
Speaker 1: that's another misnoverer. People, well is a person When I
Speaker 1: let him date my dog her sister brother, no, I
Speaker 1: would not. I don't think he was a gentleman. I
Speaker 1: don't think he was particularly kind to the women. Um
Speaker 1: and I had issue with a lot of it and
Speaker 1: I told him about it, and um, but TV wise,
Speaker 1: as a producer's gold, he was great. Apathy is what
Speaker 1: kills me. That's what kills television. Uh. If you don't care,
Speaker 1: if you don't have an opinion, um, and you're not watching.
Speaker 1: If you hate somebody, you love somebody, that's fine. Who
Speaker 1: do you think the most hated bachelor is out out there?
Speaker 1: And the most disliked was probably one part about viewership though,
Speaker 1: who was the least watch them? We know? Lorenzo Borghaze
Speaker 1: comes to mind. He was the Italian prince and great well,
Speaker 1: Matt Grant wasn't. Matt Grant was not a bad season
Speaker 1: the he was London calling, he was British um and
Speaker 1: then but Lorenzo borghese was kind of this high concept
Speaker 1: air to the Borghaze fortune. And if you've ever been
Speaker 1: to Rome, the Borghaze gardens and museums and his great
Speaker 1: great whatever's were cardinals, hugely high in the in the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church. We thought it'd be great, We're taking the
Speaker 1: show to Rome, and we lived in Italy for the
Speaker 1: two months and it just didn't. It didn't work just
Speaker 1: for one reason another do you have any thoughts on
Speaker 1: who the next bachelor will be from the show for sure,
Speaker 1: who do you think would be the time? I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna actually give them who do you think because you
Speaker 1: can't because then if someone wins, you can't. But that conversation,
Speaker 1: I will say this, I think people often think that
Speaker 1: this decision has already made and or that there is
Speaker 1: a decision that is kind of you know, where there's
Speaker 1: this one final decision early on. It is a debate.
Speaker 1: It really is this ongoing discussion that starts night one.
Speaker 1: We're sitting in the back of a garage, which is
Speaker 1: where we shoot, and we're discussing who the bachelor's going
Speaker 1: to be, who we think could be good. It's there.
Speaker 1: There's it's a lot, I mean there you know Mike
Speaker 1: fly uh, you know who's the creator of the show,
Speaker 1: Rob Mills, Martin Hilton, executive producer, myself, the other executive producers.
Speaker 1: We all kind of have our our opinions and and
Speaker 1: we and you should know we are just as passionate
Speaker 1: and emotional as anybody else. We have our favorites that
Speaker 1: we fight for, and sometimes we get our favorites, and
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't. Sometimes I am not on board with.
Speaker 1: Who's someone that you weren't on board with? I would
Speaker 1: never say that. Well, no, it just drives me crazy. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: who do you wish? Who do you wish that would
Speaker 1: have been on the show? You know? Either one off
Speaker 1: the top of my head we missed on was Michelle Money?
Speaker 1: Who is she? Michelle Money from Utah? Should have been
Speaker 1: the back money Michelle Money? Can someone pull her? And
Speaker 1: I don't. She's now odd ironically as we are here
Speaker 1: a Pebble Beaches dating Mike Weir. She was on Brad
Speaker 1: Womack season. Oh she's beautiful. Oh I remember she had that,
Speaker 1: she had the kids, Yes, she has a daughter. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know I didn't. Awesome and great, great sense of humor,
Speaker 1: great attitude. And she was actually very disliked. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why because she came off not kind of Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then she came on the show. I kind of defended
Speaker 1: her and helped her show this other side and everyone
Speaker 1: fell in love with her. And then she went on
Speaker 1: It was a Paradise, Yeah she was. She was on
Speaker 1: Paradise and we're in Mexico. And then she ended up
Speaker 1: with this really big bodybuilder guy and that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: And then now she's with Mike Weir, But she's one.
Speaker 1: There was another one I came up with off the
Speaker 1: top of my head. Um, you know who I thought
Speaker 1: would have been good. I don't know where she would
Speaker 1: have fit because we were on a roll right then.
Speaker 1: But Claire, I always Claire probably would have been really
Speaker 1: good TV and a good bat serette. Oh yeah, she's pretty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's cute. I like her. Um, and I was trying
Speaker 1: to think, guys, yeah, wise like who missed out on
Speaker 1: being Okay, I don't know if we have been a
Speaker 1: good bachelor, Like, honestly, do you think, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I will come here, come here, Wells. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: with Wells. Can I just say this really fast? For Wells,
Speaker 1: I know I know Wells, and for to you too.
Speaker 1: Do people go on the show? Like I know that
Speaker 1: if I went on the show. So if you were
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, I would want to go on the show,
Speaker 1: not saying that I wouldn't buy for your heart, but
Speaker 1: I would want to go to be the next batchelor. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: that's there. That is a thing. Um. But as far
Speaker 1: as Wells being the Bachelor, I think he's he's probably
Speaker 1: a little too level headed and too normal to be
Speaker 1: the bachelor. He don't say nice things to me right now.
Speaker 1: That's just why I don't think you'd be good good
Speaker 1: enough TV. No, that at all. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: hear Chris Harrison say, well has been great. That's all
Speaker 1: I wanted me, just because I wanted to hear it. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know who do I think is? I think
Speaker 1: Jordan's would have been a good bachelor Kimball. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: would have been good night, thank you. He would have
Speaker 1: been great TV. I could have done a show with him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's the like and there there you go. That
Speaker 1: proves my point. He is the opposite side of the
Speaker 1: spectrum from Wells. Yes, I mean, but Wells is you know,
Speaker 1: he's respectable. He can't you kind of remind me of
Speaker 1: like a Sean No, no, not not in Wells is
Speaker 1: also a board again virgin No, that's what I meant,
Speaker 1: not in that area. I mean, Higgins is okay, well
Speaker 1: with more zero. I don't know who just said that
Speaker 1: on the open mic, because that was probably the worst
Speaker 1: comment ever made in the history of I Heart Radio
Speaker 1: podcasts Wells and Ben Higgins. All right, you know what
Speaker 1: nice cute On that note, We're just gonna this is
Speaker 1: why we don't give Sugarman a mic. No, I'm first,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask Chris is playing roll in the paramie?
Speaker 1: All right, let's here, Okay, go ahead, go ahead, baby,
Speaker 1: I don't want to belittle you, so I hope go ahead.
Speaker 1: Who's your partner? And that, by the way, that does
Speaker 1: belittle him right there? What when you're patronizing and you
Speaker 1: say I don't want to be little? Now here come
Speaker 1: the comments again, and she's no, I'm just I'm sarcastic. People,
Speaker 1: I like, I'm very sarcastic. My husband knows I love him.
Speaker 1: I don't belittle you at home. I apologize funny that
Speaker 1: everyone makes comments that and I'm like, no, sarcastic. You
Speaker 1: know who wears the torn jeans and that family Jesus. Okay, honey,
Speaker 1: would you like to ask a few questions about golf?
Speaker 1: And I mean that from like the sweetest part of
Speaker 1: my soul, which is deep down, but it's there. Who's
Speaker 1: your partner right now? My partner is Jose de Jesus Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: You guys are doing well, aren't you? We were? My
Speaker 1: my pony broke down a little bit. Today Jose started
Speaker 1: off with a bang and then uh today he lost
Speaker 1: was leaking oil. He went two over today we were
Speaker 1: we were kind of in the mix. Two over. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? That means not good? You want to
Speaker 1: be under? Yeah? But yeah, then but I played well today,
Speaker 1: which is really selfishly all I care about? Um playing
Speaker 1: that means a broken leg. Or explain this to the
Speaker 1: females that are listening that it's not like the golf
Speaker 1: version of how much you bench bro Yes, that is
Speaker 1: the golfersion of how much to avenge. We should also
Speaker 1: sorry about my breath that chocolate, and we should explain
Speaker 1: that Sarah dates Tie. He is Wayne Gretzky's son. You think, Sarah,
Speaker 1: do you think? Right? But do you think Sarah would
Speaker 1: want to mention that, Oh yeah, it's Mary mentioned topping.
Speaker 1: Sarah can't hide from that, to hide it. It already was.
Speaker 1: But I do know that they love you, and you
Speaker 1: love that. I love they're they're my neighbors. They live
Speaker 1: very close to me, and yeah, Janet Wayne are good
Speaker 1: friends and they are amazing people. And their kids watched
Speaker 1: you yesterday, Hits. What is it? The million dollar? What
Speaker 1: the million dollar? A little Part three things, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are they actually they are very incredibly sweet people, an
Speaker 1: amazing family. But what is your handicap? Though? So what
Speaker 1: does that mean? That means? So every all the wise
Speaker 1: out there that watch that that are have to watch.
Speaker 1: Here's here's so if you're well, if you're watching a
Speaker 1: PG event, those guys are pluses. They're like, so, but
Speaker 1: let's say the best is a scratch, which means it's
Speaker 1: a zero. You're just you're playing good enough that you
Speaker 1: can play straight up golf, no strokes, not anything. When
Speaker 1: you get a handicap a one to three four, I'm
Speaker 1: a nine, that means you need strokes, you're not as
Speaker 1: good as a pro. So the handicap system just evens
Speaker 1: the playing field for everybody. So you and I could
Speaker 1: play golf together. I just heard so like a woman version,
Speaker 1: it's kind of okay because because guy's version is benching,
Speaker 1: what's the women's version of for a woman? It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: do you shop at Like that's not going to go
Speaker 1: over well, hold on, let me swever. Can you put
Speaker 1: this in hashtag terms? It's like hashtag blessed or like
Speaker 1: hashtag winning, like winning, you're a p G a pro
Speaker 1: you're blessed. Your hashtag blessed right now? What's hashtag sin nudes?
Speaker 1: I'd say that's probably like yeah, because you're kind of you.
Speaker 1: It's a spectrum from so handicap system is hashtag blessed?
Speaker 1: Really good guys to hashtag sin nudes. I'm I was
Speaker 1: in the beginning. We just totally figured this out. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's we're gonna let you go. So, yeah, you go.
Speaker 1: I'm busy. I gotta play off tomorrow. We are eighty
Speaker 1: eight balls in the air. What does that mean? I'm kidding.
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Speaker 1: So we address the belittling thing, which again I am
Speaker 1: very sorry and I'm very sarcastic. So I apologize to
Speaker 1: listeners that I do offend out there because you're not
Speaker 1: of thelogies say because they say that I'm being too
Speaker 1: harsh on you, and then some of them are like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to listen anymore because you BELI like you.
Speaker 1: You're belittling your husband and your beats. So I don't
Speaker 1: want them to think that I would you say they do,
Speaker 1: But I also like, I love you and we like.
Speaker 1: That's not like I think for me, I just I
Speaker 1: try to be funny and sometimes it comes off and
Speaker 1: I'm very sarcastic, so it can come off a little harsh.
Speaker 1: So I know, which you know, yes, other people don't know.
Speaker 1: So I want to apologize for that people think, because
Speaker 1: that's not I have a really hard time. I don't
Speaker 1: want people to not like me. I know that's I
Speaker 1: show start, but I just have a really tough time
Speaker 1: with this. When I read these comments, it hurts, you know,
Speaker 1: I just feel bad because I already know that it
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt you because you know, we know each other
Speaker 1: and we play around, doesn't Well, No, last week, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know the line and last week was a line,
Speaker 1: and clearly they saw me address it. Yes, you were hurt,
Speaker 1: but it was but then it was like figured out
Speaker 1: by the end, you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like every time we leave it's like, okay, we're good. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for the most part. But yeah, no, I mean I
Speaker 1: think it's just again that's sarcasm, and but last week's
Speaker 1: percent right, like that was that was wrong with me.
Speaker 1: So I do clearly apologize, but I know, I just
Speaker 1: I'm just a very sarcastic person and sometimes I get insecure.
Speaker 1: And that's how that's why trying to know. Mike knows,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, but everyone else doesn't know. I know.
Speaker 1: So there's something else I want to talk about. I'm
Speaker 1: not really ready to talk about it yet, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it at the end of the show
Speaker 1: because it's it's disturbing. It's disturbing, Yeah, for sure, it's
Speaker 1: something happened last night, and yeah, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: literally it makes me want to throw up. And but
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about now because I'm still
Speaker 1: having a good time, because we're still we're still high,
Speaker 1: and we're still waiting for time to walk through the
Speaker 1: door exactly. So let's go there, you guys. I just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know you guys, ties here, ties here, tight
Speaker 1: in the building, is in the building, is like, we
Speaker 1: just had to steps away. We all should. Mike, you
Speaker 1: could have to. I just just come like, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna be talking. You know what. He was scared, heed,
Speaker 1: No one, I'm scared say it to her. One thousand
Speaker 1: percent afraid of me. Everybody hates and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't hate you, he loves you. No. But then
Speaker 1: Mike goes, oh, I got your back. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you sean to play? And you guys, but time
Speaker 1: might be walked like doors right now, and you guys
Speaker 1: will hear a scream if it happens. Okay, So hey,
Speaker 1: wells babe, come here. Wells Adam, I like that. I
Speaker 1: have a very hard time. You have a new podcast.
Speaker 1: We're starting with starting with getting let's get the business
Speaker 1: out of the way. Bradcast the Hills just coming back.
Speaker 1: Did you know that? So I was never a Hills girl,
Speaker 1: never watched Hill. I'm sorry, that's no. I think it
Speaker 1: was not my generation. What are you talking about? I
Speaker 1: feel like we're the same generation. We're not. How old
Speaker 1: are you? It's not your generation, we're different generations. One year.
Speaker 1: Jena tells me this all the time, and we're two
Speaker 1: years apart and three. I'm sorry three, it's three and
Speaker 1: two months. I'm thirty one, so technically, I'm sorry. Did
Speaker 1: you watch The Hills? No, that's okay, okay, it's okay
Speaker 1: for him, it's not for me. It's not okay for you.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it was my generation and I was.
Speaker 1: I was, it was it was it was our generation.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well whatever, it's coming back, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: What about the O C? Do you watch that? Wat? Right?
Speaker 1: So the O C was the amalgamation of that show? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well came first. The o C came first, and then
Speaker 1: they made a reality TV show for it called Laguna Beach,
Speaker 1: and then after that became The Hills. Anyways, the Hills
Speaker 1: are coming back, that's all that you really need to
Speaker 1: know about. I watched Laguna Beach. Okay, that's what that
Speaker 1: was my generation. That was cavy, that was cavalary. And
Speaker 1: but then I didn't watch the Hills because that went
Speaker 1: more Lauren Conrad, right, and I was more of a cavalary.
Speaker 1: But but but Cavalary took over the Hills in the middle.
Speaker 1: She did. But at that point I was already I
Speaker 1: was Beach was my thing, and then I was done. Anyways,
Speaker 1: it's coming back. That's what you need to know about.
Speaker 1: This is the important part, all right. But I don't
Speaker 1: care that you didn't watch it. I care that you
Speaker 1: listen to my podcast. Now, that's the important thing. So
Speaker 1: why are you just a huge Hills fan? I don't
Speaker 1: even care? When why do you? Why is it called
Speaker 1: the Pratt Cast when it should be called Wells Hills
Speaker 1: the Wells No, no, no, no, okay. So Stephanie Pratt,
Speaker 1: who's Spencer Pratt's brother, her sister, excuse me. Pratt was
Speaker 1: like the he was g William the wife. Who's the wife? Yes,
Speaker 1: and she's the one that's something worked on. There's a picture.
Speaker 1: What did you say? Nothing? Okay? Well, no, I feel
Speaker 1: bad because she's not like, but they addressed on the show,
Speaker 1: so it's totally fine because I think so. Anyways, Um,
Speaker 1: Steph has a new podcast and were you guys friends? No,
Speaker 1: not at all, but I feel like that this need
Speaker 1: why are you doing this good question? And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: address it right now. A little bit of train wreck
Speaker 1: and I feel like someone needed to keep her on
Speaker 1: the rails, which I feel like that's what I am.
Speaker 1: So you're because you're great. I'm a conductor. I'm a
Speaker 1: train conductor. Because you've been doing radio for I was
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, dude. My first radio shows happened like
Speaker 1: four miles from where we are right now. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: I was when I was in high school, I did
Speaker 1: a radio show at Robert Louis Stephens when she's right
Speaker 1: down the street at ninety one point nine Case Web
Speaker 1: Radio Stevenson And now I'm here now now I'm doing
Speaker 1: our podcast in a hotel room. Couple of girls. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you have not only the podcast, but you also
Speaker 1: have another podcast, right, Yes, I do one with Brandy Cyrus,
Speaker 1: who's Miley's older sister. It's called Your Favorite Thing, and
Speaker 1: it's like the dumbest podcast in the world. Where we
Speaker 1: just promotion, dude, I know. But like every podcast is
Speaker 1: the dumbest podcast you ever listened to. If you only
Speaker 1: do podcasts with famous people's siblings, Yes, that's true. What's
Speaker 1: another famous sibling? I can get you find somebody home? Man?
Speaker 1: What's Paul Rudd's sister's names Not Chris not but the
Speaker 1: other one, Mike. I think his name is Luke. I
Speaker 1: think I should know that. I should know that because
Speaker 1: that's Brandy's brother in law. But whatever. Um, but you
Speaker 1: enjoy doing both equally. Your favorite thing podcast is just
Speaker 1: us talking about whatever our favorite things that week. So
Speaker 1: it's like binge worthy stuff, music, news, whatever. It's just
Speaker 1: escape into. There's just so much crap and negativity in
Speaker 1: the world, so that the idea of the podcast. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: like you're this guy over here, um, so we we
Speaker 1: just wanted to do a podcast where we just talk
Speaker 1: about what we like in the world, which is like
Speaker 1: a weird thing because it's so easy to talk about
Speaker 1: what we hate. Right, So that's that podcast. And of course,
Speaker 1: can you give me an example right now? This is funny,
Speaker 1: but not funny. I have been binging the Ted Bundy
Speaker 1: I almost right, I almost said that for you, I
Speaker 1: almost said, like Ted Bundy, yeah, it's got It's not
Speaker 1: everything because like when people died, but like it's my
Speaker 1: favorite thing because it's so good to watch. Right, it's
Speaker 1: fascinating because that happened when we were young, but we
Speaker 1: weren't yet. We weren't old enough to understand what was
Speaker 1: going on as he broke out a jail twice. What
Speaker 1: a genius after and he planned it. Spoiler alert everyone,
Speaker 1: spoiler by the way, haven't been following Teddy? We're doing
Speaker 1: that funny though, you watch these things just like when
Speaker 1: the f said the the O J. Simpson, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: it was so well done. You like, what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: Everyone know what's going to happen? Was dude, he breaks
Speaker 1: out of jail one time, and then you'd think the
Speaker 1: second time they'd be like, let's just keep unlock and
Speaker 1: keep no no go through because he has great bone
Speaker 1: structure and good hair. They're just like letting him do
Speaker 1: what he wants. Zac Efron, where are you at? Not
Speaker 1: not there for it? Have you heard that Netflix has
Speaker 1: asked people to stop talking about how hot Ted Bundy is?
Speaker 1: Disturbing it is and I had a weird googling of
Speaker 1: the Melendez Menendez brothers. Yeah, I got. I went down
Speaker 1: the rabbitue like thirty five minutes into Ted Bundy. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: like this wasn't a killer. This was like a super
Speaker 1: creepy he was doing the first time the term serial
Speaker 1: killer was bless you. Right. Also, did you guys see
Speaker 1: that thing where it was like posting all of their horoscopes? No,
Speaker 1: oh my god, obviously I was very into it. It
Speaker 1: posted like every horoscope of every serial killer. There weren't
Speaker 1: any scorpios. I just want to say that what was
Speaker 1: the number one? What's a Honestly, they're an I'm not
Speaker 1: even being like psychoed. There was a lot of Sagittarius
Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, who's a sage? Who?
Speaker 1: You know? My girlfriend love that show definitely, so yeah,
Speaker 1: she'll kill me. It's fine. I'm totally I'm totally cool
Speaker 1: with you know what's funny? I posted it and a
Speaker 1: bunch of people came into my d ms and we're like, oh, really,
Speaker 1: because like I'm a Virgo and I I was like really,
Speaker 1: because you're getting mad at me. Ted Bundy's a Sagittarius.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it. But how does that
Speaker 1: make you feel a little close to home? Female and male?
Speaker 1: How does it make me feel? Absolutely? Sagittarious men are
Speaker 1: way different sagittarious women. Yeah, anyway, I did one time.
Speaker 1: I will never do it again. That's all. Well, aren't
Speaker 1: you glad you told us that you're watching Ted Bundy?
Speaker 1: So anyways, my podcast is a super fun time. Where
Speaker 1: are we talking about serial killers? That's kind of the idea.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to you. Well, let's do it. Where
Speaker 1: do you see this going? Like? Do you want to
Speaker 1: be the Ryan Seacrest? Do you want to be um?
Speaker 1: Do you want to be a host? Do you want
Speaker 1: to be? Like? What where do you want to go
Speaker 1: with your radio career? I get that a lot, like
Speaker 1: people trying to make stereotype I guess, or like a
Speaker 1: like equate you to other people. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the next Ryan Seacrest. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the next Chris Harrison. I want
Speaker 1: to be just me, Like can I just be the
Speaker 1: thing that I But is that hosting TV? Is that
Speaker 1: That's what I mean? Like like doing a Ryan and Kelly?
Speaker 1: Is it doing a you know? Yeah, I like hosting
Speaker 1: stuff like I get the question a lot, do you
Speaker 1: want to be an actor? I do not want to
Speaker 1: be an actor. I live with an actor, and it
Speaker 1: seems like the worst job in the world. Like it's
Speaker 1: enough just to be me. I can't imagine being other people.
Speaker 1: Like how crazy is that? Like I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: pretend to be someone different than men. This is already
Speaker 1: too much. You get to escape yourself. I don't even
Speaker 1: know how you do that. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: does this when you guys are together. But I'll just
Speaker 1: be walking through the house. I hear Janna just talking
Speaker 1: out loud, and I'm like, huh, you're talking to me.
Speaker 1: It's like looking at the wall. But she's really just
Speaker 1: reading lines. Do you have to run lines with her?
Speaker 1: And he? Are you good at it? Okay? So I
Speaker 1: love you so so. One of our good couple of
Speaker 1: friends is Trevor and Alex and Trevor is an actor.
Speaker 1: He's on this show called Magicians, and he came over
Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, I got a new game.
Speaker 1: And it's called the two and a half minute Actor
Speaker 1: and all the two and a half second actor and
Speaker 1: all it is. It would be like you set the scene,
Speaker 1: and it'll be like this just sucks because this is radius.
Speaker 1: You can't see us, but it'd be like, um, you
Speaker 1: just found out that's your mom cheated on your dad,
Speaker 1: and so then you have to like and it just
Speaker 1: do and have seconds of that one thing just like
Speaker 1: so then you do, and it's really fun to do
Speaker 1: with actors because I'm not an actor. So then so
Speaker 1: I overdo it right, My girlfriends like, you're horrible at this,
Speaker 1: but also not the worst at this. Yeah, Mike is.
Speaker 1: Mike is incredible at reading lines with me, like I
Speaker 1: actually enjoy I'd rather self tape and put my audition
Speaker 1: on tape because he's so great. He gives more than
Speaker 1: but tell him about that one time we were reading
Speaker 1: that audition scene, so we were he was supposed to
Speaker 1: be like my war husband and I'm his wife and
Speaker 1: go ahead. It was actually like Dwayne Johnson like you're
Speaker 1: the rock. Yeah, basically it was the rock. They should
Speaker 1: just give him part to me. But it was some
Speaker 1: military thing and I had to scream some tramatic line
Speaker 1: like my men needed me, and then I go I
Speaker 1: needed you, And every time I did that, he just
Speaker 1: started and it took us like hours to finish that. Literally,
Speaker 1: we were in the laundry at the old house. He's
Speaker 1: moment I needed you to be like balling, crying, and
Speaker 1: he just couldn't. Every time, every I've only done a
Speaker 1: couple of times, but every time I do run lines
Speaker 1: with her, I will do the total whole thing where
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not that funny. If it said this,
Speaker 1: this would be funnier, and I'll like to start rewriting
Speaker 1: the script and they're like, I just know your role, buddy,
Speaker 1: just say what's rented And that's fine. By the way,
Speaker 1: for everyone listening, um, Wells is dating Sarah Hyland, who
Speaker 1: is a star of Modern Family. So how is that
Speaker 1: dating such a I mean, she's on one of the
Speaker 1: most famous shows on TV, So how is that with
Speaker 1: dating such a famous Later, I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: it's weird, but it's not. I don't know. Props to
Speaker 1: Modern Family and ABC. They just sign on for an
Speaker 1: eleventh season, so everyone's are excited about that. That's amazing
Speaker 1: the fact that it's so really weird. Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what your show was growing up, but
Speaker 1: for me it was Seinfeld. A lot of people was
Speaker 1: friends you know, there's a lot of those shows, and
Speaker 1: it's weird when you're like living in the middle of it.
Speaker 1: When you're around, like when you're living in the middle
Speaker 1: of the storm, you don't realize how crazy it is.
Speaker 1: But Modern Family is like a Seinfeld right like the
Speaker 1: last decade. Absolutely it's gonna be it's a big bang,
Speaker 1: like it's a show, like it's huge, and while she's
Speaker 1: doing it, like it's cool and like I love the show.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. Uh. I don't think I realize
Speaker 1: how impactful it is because we're living in the middle
Speaker 1: of the eye right now. You know. Um, obviously it's
Speaker 1: it's an amazing show and like it's changing everything and
Speaker 1: it'll see it'll be interesting to see like what happens
Speaker 1: going forward. Um, but like I don't know, Like you've
Speaker 1: met Sarah, Like she's a huge dork. Like so when
Speaker 1: you asked me, like, what's it like dating uh an actress?
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know. I'm dating a huge nerd.
Speaker 1: I love her to death a year and a half.
Speaker 1: So is she the one? Oh for sure? Yeah? When's
Speaker 1: the rain coming? Don't I don't know about that. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence around that was really sweet. That
Speaker 1: was very genuine, So Ted Bunny, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no time about feeling bad for you. But also I
Speaker 1: just bit my lip because I was gonna say something
Speaker 1: me and I was like, nope, Janet, censor, I want
Speaker 1: to hear not to you, to my husband. We don't
Speaker 1: need any more bad comments one of us. No no,
Speaker 1: because I'm oh, I thought that was Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I thought that was Wayne. I almost died. Sorry, that's
Speaker 1: my brother. Sorry sorry I thought Wayne Gretzky just walked in.
Speaker 1: But it's just wells brother, Brett, Brett, it's not the
Speaker 1: great one. Kid is really sweet and Sarah is lucky
Speaker 1: to have you because you are a great guy. So
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the podcast. You guys listen to
Speaker 1: his podcast it again Broadcast number one. Uh all. Then
Speaker 1: i'd also do your favorite thing, and thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on one down dude, Thanks for having me. It's been fun. Also,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to play golf and build. No, I didn't bear.
Speaker 1: We didn't come up till today? Did you text him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I said, And I said, dude, we're not coming up
Speaker 1: till Friday. And I said whatever, I said, all right,
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Speaker 1: to talk about something, not trying to bring it down
Speaker 1: at all, but I something happened last night and obviously
Speaker 1: scared me really really bad. So on the plane, um
Speaker 1: this morning, when we're flying here, I basically asked Sarah
Speaker 1: and Mike if if I should talk about it, A
Speaker 1: and B would I get sued if I talk about it?
Speaker 1: Because because I literally said techt Samy like one over
Speaker 1: here will So I'm not be hearing a story in
Speaker 1: a moment. No, Well, because I didn't want. I don't
Speaker 1: want this to be slander because this isn't about slander.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to and I'm not even gonna say
Speaker 1: because I just I'm not saying the company. I'm going
Speaker 1: to post the photo on Instagram so you guys can
Speaker 1: see it. Again. I'm not doing anything because I did
Speaker 1: talk to the company after it happened, But you're gonna
Speaker 1: post the photo. I'm going to post the photo I
Speaker 1: because it needs to be seen because I don't want
Speaker 1: them to take my word for it. Are you Are
Speaker 1: you opposed to me posting it a little bit? Why? Um?
Speaker 1: Because I'm it has nothing to do with the company
Speaker 1: or you're doing something wrong. It's just more of like
Speaker 1: I get your get your motivation to do it, but
Speaker 1: it almost seems because it was such a kind of
Speaker 1: a scary moment. I kind of said that the plane,
Speaker 1: it kind of like seems like so personal as weird.
Speaker 1: Does this sounds feel like that picture someone's kids? But
Speaker 1: the picture is kind of like what's disturbing? But like
Speaker 1: the first word that popped in my head was like gruesome.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense with? And I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to picture even though it's it's
Speaker 1: because because of the situation is disturbing. Like Sarah said,
Speaker 1: that's hard to look at that, and that's okay, and
Speaker 1: if you don't want me to then I won't. But
Speaker 1: it's so bad that I think you can describe it
Speaker 1: to a point where people will like be like oh
Speaker 1: a stage like yeah, because like when you showed me
Speaker 1: that I was not right, well I'm not okay. And
Speaker 1: every time I keep staring at it and I sell
Speaker 1: because like even when we weren't together, like an hour
Speaker 1: like two hours ago, I was in bed and I
Speaker 1: was like you, Like I just was like you play
Speaker 1: that what if game? Over and over. So basically, uh,
Speaker 1: we went to bed normal bedtime. Um, and at two
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, I woke up in complete panic.
Speaker 1: There was no tears from Jason the other room, but
Speaker 1: I just had the mom panic. I then, as a mom,
Speaker 1: had the mom panic, looked at the monitor. Amy, let
Speaker 1: me show you the photo. I looked in the monitor
Speaker 1: and this is what I saw. That is the swaddle
Speaker 1: completely over his face. I mean so over his face
Speaker 1: that it looks like he's being suffocated. It looks like
Speaker 1: he's being suffocated. And I my heart. I mean I
Speaker 1: I jumped out of bed so fast and rain in
Speaker 1: that room and I was like, he's not going to
Speaker 1: be breathing when I opened this, this this swaddle, and
Speaker 1: I unvelcried it and it's like he went He was
Speaker 1: like like it came to and I mean, I I
Speaker 1: in the Michael's is everything okay? And I just was
Speaker 1: like I just started like bawling because I was like, no,
Speaker 1: like and I know, first of all, I'm explained because
Speaker 1: like for me, I didn't like explain how you I know,
Speaker 1: I swaddled him correctly. I'm if it was anybody else
Speaker 1: that'd been like, well you didn't swaddle him right, I
Speaker 1: am a prince cent. Sure he has the appropriate size
Speaker 1: for his weight. It was velcord right, because I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I mean Michael. Every single time I'm like, no, Michael,
Speaker 1: like this is like you know, or the whoever. I'm
Speaker 1: like this is like I'm because I'm so terrified of that.
Speaker 1: And so I know that as the mom, I swaddled
Speaker 1: him correctly. But he has really bad reflux. So what
Speaker 1: he does is he scooches a lot, and with this
Speaker 1: company and the swaddle, it basically rode up on him
Speaker 1: all the way. He literally had what was that like
Speaker 1: that much on just the crown of his head showing,
Speaker 1: and because I swallowed him so tight, it had the
Speaker 1: part that was vlcoed around him rode up because he's
Speaker 1: scooted down in it. And I reached out to the company.
Speaker 1: I said, before I go off on you guys on
Speaker 1: on you know, on social media, I want you to
Speaker 1: explain to me how I did everything right. This is
Speaker 1: the perfect size that aby like to them and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're so sorry. You know, maybe he's
Speaker 1: not supposed to be meant to be swaddled anymore. I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's ten weeks old, like babies are swaddled until they're
Speaker 1: five months old. Like this, this extra layer or this
Speaker 1: thing that goes over him is so I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to describe it. It's like a it's like
Speaker 1: just a rap where he's in a zips like pouch basically,
Speaker 1: and then the swaddle part is just it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: almost separate from the actual swaddle. It's only attached on
Speaker 1: the back, so it just goes over top of them. Well,
Speaker 1: it got because because of the material, because of the
Speaker 1: fleece material, it doesn't stay put like any friction with fleece.
Speaker 1: It moves. Well that's what she said that the lady
Speaker 1: that was talking to me on the Instagram said it's breathable.
Speaker 1: I said, absolutely not. That is police material. There's a
Speaker 1: percent not breathable. So the fact that they're promoting safe
Speaker 1: sleep it just makes me so angry. So in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night, I was like, I need to
Speaker 1: make a safe swaddle. Long story short, I talked to
Speaker 1: my girls and there's a there's a sleep stack out
Speaker 1: there called the b that I want to promote every
Speaker 1: single one of you guys out there. So whatever swaddle
Speaker 1: you're using, please please please do your research. Because I
Speaker 1: was not the only person that had this because I
Speaker 1: went on the reviews and I showed Sarah and Michael
Speaker 1: the reviews. Other people have had danger danger danger on
Speaker 1: the same pictures of how Jason looked, and I just,
Speaker 1: I mean, can you say that coming because I don't
Speaker 1: want people to be This isn't like a bashing thing.
Speaker 1: And you even said on the plane, You're like, I'm
Speaker 1: literally concerned for like other next child, like because you
Speaker 1: went and looked at pictures and there were other pictures
Speaker 1: of little babies that this had happened to, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want this to happen to anyone else. So like,
Speaker 1: this isn't about going on like I hate so and
Speaker 1: so it's like, you know you you care about other people,
Speaker 1: and that's what So Karen, who invented the woundy it's
Speaker 1: w O M B i E. She same thing happened
Speaker 1: to her things swaddles were either riding up over their
Speaker 1: face or they were choking on the zippers. So she
Speaker 1: made this swaddle it's a zip. You guys please look
Speaker 1: it up because her story was incredible. So she basically
Speaker 1: made the swaddle. And I've done so much research, has
Speaker 1: you know how many hours about swaddles and which ones
Speaker 1: are actually safe, but that that is the one that
Speaker 1: all my girlfriends have used, and then kind of hearing
Speaker 1: Karen's story too, and how you know that was happening
Speaker 1: to her. It's just it's terrifying. I mean that was
Speaker 1: the I'm still sick to my stomach about it, because
Speaker 1: what if what if I did not wake up? What
Speaker 1: if I did not have the mom instinct? What if?
Speaker 1: And then what if it is making because like obviously
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like that mom intuition is real,
Speaker 1: Like that's insane that you just like popped out of bed,
Speaker 1: like it's crazy and I woke up like like something
Speaker 1: you knew. That's just such a Is that the picture
Speaker 1: from the monitor? Would you say? Yes? That is? I
Speaker 1: don't want anyone thinking that if you do decide to
Speaker 1: post it that you let no, no, she screenshot the
Speaker 1: photo from the moment absolutely was recording. So I just
Speaker 1: want everyone to know to not write us and go
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, no no, no, of course
Speaker 1: of course not. Yeah, that was from the recording on them.
Speaker 1: So yeah, terrifying. Yeah, I'm well, I'm glad you got
Speaker 1: it off your chest. Yeah, and like got it. I
Speaker 1: just but I just want everyone to be do their
Speaker 1: research and get the woundy because that is that's safely.
Speaker 1: Just do you guys, just some moms, do your research
Speaker 1: and trust your mom instinct, I guess is the bottom line. Okay.
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Speaker 1: you for putting this together. Yes, the questions for us Sarah,
Speaker 1: by the way, I do have some emails. Yes, we
Speaker 1: can just do like quick questions because you posted that
Speaker 1: on your new wine down. Oh yes we have a
Speaker 1: wind down UM in wind down podcast Instagram, so you
Speaker 1: can go at a wind down podcast. Is that what
Speaker 1: it is? And you just did a question and a
Speaker 1: bunch of people just like wrote so I thought you
Speaker 1: could do just like a little rapid fire. You guys
Speaker 1: becauld like answer. This is on the Instagram. They wrote
Speaker 1: this night and they we had a little had a
Speaker 1: little fun the um one of the you got a
Speaker 1: lot of questions asking what is like your date night
Speaker 1: go to or what's like your ideal night date night?
Speaker 1: Michael's ideal date night is without me, I know, I
Speaker 1: know Mine's mine super simple with dinner in a movie,
Speaker 1: just because I love going to the movies. I have
Speaker 1: to agree with that. Jenna, she enjoys that, but she
Speaker 1: likes things spiced up a little bit more, some different,
Speaker 1: more intention I've been wanting to get fancy lately. Do
Speaker 1: you think you'll get fancy on Valentine's Day? Because that
Speaker 1: was a question. So Valentine's Day, we're actually going to
Speaker 1: Nashville to go look at our house. So we're going
Speaker 1: to dinner with a few of other friends. I'm really
Speaker 1: excited about that, but I think for a date night
Speaker 1: for me would be uh, Honestly, I will say this.
Speaker 1: Michael did by far the sweetest thing the other night.
Speaker 1: He said, we've been passing each other a lot lately,
Speaker 1: and he goes, he got home and he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: will you come sit and have a glass of wine
Speaker 1: with me on the couch with the fire on, And
Speaker 1: he goes and let's just talk about what's going on?
Speaker 1: And so cute. No, it was just like I meant
Speaker 1: the world to me because he's like, we sat down
Speaker 1: the couch or drinking wine, the kids are in bed,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's like, so tell me what's
Speaker 1: going on in your world? And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's like no, but he's like, what's Like, what's
Speaker 1: going on? I said? And we end up having just
Speaker 1: the nicest connected just talking about you guys. Look, they're
Speaker 1: so in love for everyone listening. I'm not sweating. I
Speaker 1: haven't had a moment. I'm so happy with them. I
Speaker 1: actually think what happened. I think that was last week
Speaker 1: has been a good thing. Janna seems a little bit
Speaker 1: like she's let go we drink. I think that we
Speaker 1: actually wind out know what I have, But I know
Speaker 1: it's just it's just about I always say, like in
Speaker 1: the beginning of a relationship, it's the little things, and
Speaker 1: at the end it's a little thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's always a little bit that truly
Speaker 1: meant the world's we had the best because I think
Speaker 1: with having two kids and just like our lives, it's
Speaker 1: just we're constantly passing each other. We always have the
Speaker 1: same conversation, the same conversation, how did he eat? How
Speaker 1: did you go down? How how was picked up at school?
Speaker 1: And so now it's it was just thank you for that.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. That was my ideal date night
Speaker 1: right there? Um there were what about you? Is you
Speaker 1: just getting dressed up? Kim Kardashian No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. I love like laying and like in netflixing,
Speaker 1: I love post my fancy friend all my mom friends
Speaker 1: and Nahville like my best season. Nashville are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're with your fancy friends, and you know, but I'm
Speaker 1: like your fancy friend, but I feel like for time
Speaker 1: just like I just want to be I just want
Speaker 1: to Like, bet, don't say that because all my Nashville
Speaker 1: girls right now literally want to live like vicariously through
Speaker 1: you because they just think you're so fun. And do
Speaker 1: you think it's fun not having a ring? Anyways? My
Speaker 1: next Oh, you got a lot of these like um,
Speaker 1: how for both of you? It was like, how do
Speaker 1: you like move on from a relationship? Like what is
Speaker 1: like that stuff that helps you get to like that
Speaker 1: next like maybe forgetting them or like being able to
Speaker 1: be x. I mean yeah, it was just saying like
Speaker 1: how do you what is like your main thing that
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I'm gonna move on, Like today is
Speaker 1: the day I'm gonna move on. For me, it's time
Speaker 1: and setting like letting yourself be like Okay, for the
Speaker 1: next these many hours or these may days, I'm going
Speaker 1: to sob cry, bitch about it, like I'm going to
Speaker 1: just do all these things and then then be done.
Speaker 1: So you have to give yourself like a time limit
Speaker 1: for me at least, Yeah, for for me, for the
Speaker 1: male perspective, it's for me, it's always been. It's still
Speaker 1: time but then it's healthy distraction. So it's I would
Speaker 1: just been all my time with my boys and just
Speaker 1: be with them, wear them out constantly, and not even
Speaker 1: like going out and going crazy, but just being together
Speaker 1: and hanging out and doing whatever. Just yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like your friends help you through everything. It's so true.
Speaker 1: But I remember when we broke up, Mike, when you
Speaker 1: hung like the first thing to do is hang out
Speaker 1: with your friends, and I'm like, man, he's like happy
Speaker 1: hanging out with friends, and I'm like in my hotel room,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't like I was outside the bar we
Speaker 1: went to, just miserable, like man crying Tom. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're big in New Year's Eve. I
Speaker 1: think that guys don't like Greep, but I feel like
Speaker 1: guys are like maybe like we do. We just try
Speaker 1: to distract ourselves. Well. Also, you just got a lot
Speaker 1: of questions. Just clarify. Since you're moving to Nashville, are
Speaker 1: you still going to podcast? We are absolutely still going
Speaker 1: to podcast. How are you going to do? What they
Speaker 1: were wondering? We're gonna fly. We're gonna fly to l
Speaker 1: A once a month to meet with our amazing celebrity guests,
Speaker 1: and we'll have plenty of choose from the Nashville too. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's gonna be one. Oh and you guys,
Speaker 1: next week we've got one of the f g ls.
Speaker 1: It's going to be huge. Flora Georgie the line for
Speaker 1: those who don't follow. And by the way, Ethan's already
Speaker 1: freaking out. I'm really really excited. Contain your excitement for now,
Speaker 1: but yes, let's do some emails. This one comes from April.
Speaker 1: My question is what do you mean when you talk
Speaker 1: about intimacy versus sex? Can you guys explain that a
Speaker 1: bit more? Do you mean, like intimacy is being romantic
Speaker 1: instead of just well um sex to well finished? Or
Speaker 1: is intimacy and sex like four play? I don't talk
Speaker 1: about this that very often? Is intimacy and sex? I am?
Speaker 1: I am on behalf of April. Uh is intimacy and
Speaker 1: sex like four play and sweetness? What's the difference between
Speaker 1: intimacy and sex? Is a question? Might do I take that?
Speaker 1: M Yeah? For us, the difference is intimacy is for us,
Speaker 1: it's like intention so it's intentional time. Like Jane was
Speaker 1: just describing, like us sitting down and just having a
Speaker 1: conversation and connecting. It could be you know, uh, just
Speaker 1: something together that it's not just a natural routine type
Speaker 1: of thing. It's something you do together. You initiate it,
Speaker 1: you intentionally do something. Um. Yeah, I always thought that
Speaker 1: intimacy was sex and you can only get intimacy from
Speaker 1: sex until I met you and you realize that intimacy
Speaker 1: and sex do not equate. I know not. I got
Speaker 1: to learn. And that's the coolest thing is I got
Speaker 1: to learn truly what what the difference is and how
Speaker 1: you can have intimacy through holding your hand, Intimacy, through
Speaker 1: having a conversation, intimacy through having a fight in a relationship. Intimacy,
Speaker 1: like is so much beyond just having sex. So I know,
Speaker 1: I'm thanking you for that. So I think that's you're
Speaker 1: talk But then I'm excited tonight. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: you really it's not just about having sex, because I
Speaker 1: think for me it was just about intimacy is sex
Speaker 1: and so when I you know, but again, but we're
Speaker 1: learning obviously with intimacy and you know, our relationship, but
Speaker 1: it is it is. It still can be sex too,
Speaker 1: but just in different ways. You have to make it
Speaker 1: it also depends on the person's love language too, just
Speaker 1: like for yours. Physical I know we talked about love
Speaker 1: language is a lot, but because they're very important in
Speaker 1: our experience. And so if this guy, if April, if
Speaker 1: you know one of their love languages a sex, then
Speaker 1: is that love language? I mean physical touch? Physical touch.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think there's a different term
Speaker 1: love languages. Sign me up. That's Jane's number one. It's
Speaker 1: going down though. It's because let me just tell you,
Speaker 1: remember how I said that my husband used to not
Speaker 1: want to have sex with me. Now he wants you
Speaker 1: all the time. And it's Jane has been turning me down.
Speaker 1: We're just such a different like yeah, he gets me,
Speaker 1: like when I say good night, time like I'm done.
Speaker 1: Like when I say good night, it's over. Well I
Speaker 1: am now that he's like mr like jackhammer over there.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's talking about sex in front of
Speaker 1: our daughter. I feel I'm mom and dad have sex, Sarah, Well, really, yes, really?
Speaker 1: Are you still texting Tie? What is he saying? He's
Speaker 1: not making sense? Is he coming up right now? He goes, Okay,
Speaker 1: get it coming out? I said, come? He goes, Wait,
Speaker 1: are you alive. Why because I've been here for so long.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is the room, get up here,
Speaker 1: coming you guys. He's so scared. He's so scared. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully one day we can get tired in the podcast.
Speaker 1: Maybe when he proposes to you coming, he does it
Speaker 1: with a microphone with one more Oh yeah, oh this
Speaker 1: is good. Let's do it. I like your voice you read.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. We have fun today with you. It's
Speaker 1: been really fun. The scorpio and I found that outso
Speaker 1: like things just totally changed. We just get each other
Speaker 1: on a whole different level, different level. We're not serial killers.
Speaker 1: This is this is from anonymous. Uh. My husband and
Speaker 1: I have been together for twelve years, and initially I
Speaker 1: didn't want to have kids. Fast forward to now. My
Speaker 1: husband still doesn't want to have kids, but I have
Speaker 1: that overwhelming feeling of my inner clock and I want kids.
Speaker 1: How am I to address the thought without being pushy? Also?
Speaker 1: How can my husband become comfortable with the idea? So,
Speaker 1: how do you? How do you bring that up? That
Speaker 1: makes me? How do we how do I deal with that?
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Honestly? So, he doesn't
Speaker 1: want kids and she didn't either in the beginning, but
Speaker 1: now she does because will change. And I always say,
Speaker 1: it's so hard when you get with someone like m
Speaker 1: But the hard thing is is that she changed her mind.
Speaker 1: And it's okay to change your mind, but you also
Speaker 1: have to know that, Like Michael, if you said I
Speaker 1: don't want kids, and if I was, but then I
Speaker 1: changed my mind, it's like, well, you you told me
Speaker 1: straight from the beginning that was you do not want kids,
Speaker 1: like you told me that you were up front. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like, well, I don't know maybe, so that's that's
Speaker 1: not Yeah, it's not it's it's hard, like you can't
Speaker 1: doubt her or you can't, you know, give her any
Speaker 1: crap for wanting to change your mind and have kids,
Speaker 1: Like we get that, but you cannot blame her husband
Speaker 1: for you said he was upfront and honest and this
Speaker 1: is what I want and don't want. But I think
Speaker 1: it's like one of those things that it's like if
Speaker 1: you love me so much, you know, but that's not fair,
Speaker 1: I know. But I feel like that's probably where she's
Speaker 1: like coming from it. She's probably like, look, don't you
Speaker 1: love me enough? You know? If it's what I want?
Speaker 1: Because I mean sometimes that you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone goes there where it's like okay, da dada, but
Speaker 1: like do you love me? Because if you love me,
Speaker 1: which which makes sense, but when it's something like that
Speaker 1: that's discussed at the beginning of a relationship and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's changed. Sort of similar situation
Speaker 1: with our friend who that happened to, and she ended
Speaker 1: up leaving her husband after fifteen something years, end up
Speaker 1: having She was yeah, she was in her mid forties,
Speaker 1: and she ended up adopting because she said that it
Speaker 1: would just be you have to. You have to ask herself,
Speaker 1: would you regret not having kids at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, and she that was I said, would would
Speaker 1: you rather not have kids? Or you know, you have
Speaker 1: to you have to make that decision. And she end
Speaker 1: up at another question that you guys got, and it
Speaker 1: was like how do you deal with the guilt for
Speaker 1: not It was it was a woman who was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want kids, and I feel like people are
Speaker 1: always guilty me because I don't. Honestly though, like no
Speaker 1: one I don't. That's that's your decision, That's what I'm like.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not fair like if it's something
Speaker 1: that you want, like, it's not do you just because
Speaker 1: you don't, And it's not when people say, oh I
Speaker 1: don't want kids, it's like, okay, cool, that's that's I
Speaker 1: might not relate to that I might not there shouldn't
Speaker 1: be but that you shouldn't be guilted. Yeah, And there's
Speaker 1: no judgment, not at all. And you shouldn't feel bad
Speaker 1: about that. You should be like you should what makes
Speaker 1: you happen? Yeah, exactly because some people some people have kids,
Speaker 1: didn't want kids exactly, don't like their kids, or you know,
Speaker 1: some people have kids who shouldn't exactly. So it's like
Speaker 1: people I do miss Julian and Jason, Well I miss Jason,
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