WEBVTT - Whine Down After Dark with Chris Harrison 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.160 I can't breathe because my pants are too tight. Wait 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.200 can I button my pants? Like? Cal? Would that be weird? 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.200 Wind down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:15.280 We're We're just saying. I know we're on location right 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:20.479 now in after dark. I feel like we need to cheer. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:25.400 Okay literally, Oh did you guys hear that? So we 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:29.159 are winding down in Pebble Beach, California. Uh, for the 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:35.240 what's it called the pro am? Yeah? Golf super stoked. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.120 I just learned what a pin was. It's a flag. Apparently, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.840 I don't know. I just wanted to start off saying 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.280 them because I've gotten a lot of hate about the 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.840 fact that people think that I belittle my husband so 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.600 and that I'm too hard on my husband. I should 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.360 just let it go, and so I just wanted to 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.920 apologize to Michael again on air. I apologize on my Instagram. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.480 But we are he year for him because I do 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.560 love my husband. That is why we are here. It's 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.560 because to celebrate him and golf and Honey, I'm not 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.200 gonna drug you through the mud anymore unless it's to 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:11.840 help people. 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Sleep Number 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.239 has been ranked the highest and customer satisfaction by mattresses 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.399 by JD Power, coming during the Ultimate Sleep Number event 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.000 and say fifty on a Sleep Number three sixty limited 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.600 edition smart bed. Sleep Number is the official sleep and 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.040 wellness partner of the NFL. You only find Sleep Number 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.760 at one of their five seventy five Sleep Number stores nationwide. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.040 Visit sleep number dot com slash Jana to find the 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:07.280 one nearest you. Chris Harrison freak, Chris freaking Harrison. Hey Chris, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.200 how are you bed sit right here? No? That was 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:13.560 not the use it on my lap? Used it on 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.680 my lap? Is Sarah? Sorry? I really have to put 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.040 stupid headphones on you next to me. Well, that's true. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:27.040 Why we have headphones on because we're taking col Hey Chris, Uh, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.519 where's your drink? Uh, it's over there, it's on you, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.920 it's it's by your bed. So this is our first time, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.320 I guess technically drinking on the podcast. And I would 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.320 just like to straight up say you might not know 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.400 that often do it in your bedroom. I've never been 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.440 drunk before. Thank you. That look Chris gave is what 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.320 I say. And I've been with you for like four 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.120 years an now, never been drunk. Never, I've never had 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.040 the spins. I've never had anything. But why know what 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:53.880 Sarah wanted to ask about that? Have you ever had 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.480 a drink? Oh? Yeah, I see you look, and I'm 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.320 drinking right now. I just stop at two glasses anxiety. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.600 Her definition of drunk is like wasting spinning. I think 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:08.160 is drunk. But I've never had spins. I get I 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.240 get a little. They don't get any of that. What 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.000 does blotted me? Okay? But but you wanted to ask 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.840 a question about I forgot. Oh yeah, so my first question, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.880 how let's just go right in? No, how do you 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:29.880 get them? So drunk, not you specifically, Um, how do 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.960 they get so drunk? Like, how do you get drunk? No? No, no, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.039 we're speaking on like specifically. Sorry the show now, but 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:42.680 it's it's if you get drunk, it's really the same process. No, 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:47.400 you don't have everything choice. One of the great things 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:51.640 about alcohol, drugs, let me take your back whatever it is, 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.960 it it really is a microcosm of life. Look, if 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:03.760 you're the idiot that on night one gets spinny or blottoed, drunk, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.719 whatever phrase you kids like to use, um, then that 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.360 that's something as as a bachelor bacherette, that's something I 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.640 wouldn't want to know. If I'm dating and I go 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.039 out with you and you're puking in the parking lot 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.280 after dinner because you just plowed through a bottle of wine, 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.719 that's something I want to see. So if you want 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.920 to drink on night one night to whenever knock yourself out, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.200 you can do that. Or there's a ton of people 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.960 that don't really. Yeah, for example, you're more fun when 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.160 you drink. No, I'm not. I'm I'm way not more fun, 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.839 way not very defensive. I'm wait at mar fun. No 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.120 I'm not, I'm not more fun drunk. I'm actually more 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.919 emotional when I drank wine. Les cry a lot. You 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.599 want to talk about it besides the whole drunk thing, 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.840 What what's the drama between the North Carolina South Carolina 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.760 pageant queens? You know, I would love to tell you 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.760 there's this great story, and I really don't think there is. Really. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.520 I think it's beauty pageant drama, which probably isn't really 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:13.159 that sexy and deep. Um. Whether your team Hannah or 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:17.920 team Klina, one of that's calin like her. So she 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.120 either one or finished, finished second or third, you know, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.760 fifth runner up, you know how they do that in pageants? Um. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.520 And then the other one didn't clap or something. It 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.839 wasn't happy, wasn't happy enough for her? I think, is 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.600 this is how the story goes? This sounds about right 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.240 the course and what dateline did a story or something 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.479 and uncovered I don't know no, but that I think 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.159 that it might be as deep as that, um that 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:49.640 they were girls, and there are rumors that it goes 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.560 deeper than that, and it goes to some other stories 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.800 and emotional stuff. But it might just be that she 0:06:54.800 --> 0:07:01.240 didn't clap, im like I mean that that's that's pretty. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.640 That's that's not good. You know, I did I did 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.480 you ever do a beauty pageant? Mike, Sarah? Have you 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.360 because I'm from Texas like it was in beauty pageants? 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.080 No where are you from Texas? San Antonio counts? I 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.440 have an I have an ex wife from there? You do? 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.880 And you have a bar there Barn Dallas, Barn Dallas, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:27.440 ex wife from San Antonio. New girlfriends good a country song. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.360 I saw that as weekly. I go, oh, you can 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.880 have that. But he's got a girlfriend. Thank you, Barn 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.400 Dallas and ext wife and Santa. That's a great, sir, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.720 that's very George. Can we talk about girlfriend? I mean 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.880 I probably won't, but tell me all about her? How long? Where? 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.240 When'd you meet? How did you meet her? Um? We 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:55.000 met years ago? Really you're no longer a bachelor. We'll 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.520 see how she being on the show? What's that? How 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.560 is she like with you being on the show around 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.480 all these beautiful women? Fine? I mean you know she, uh, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.480 we met years ago because she covers the show UM 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.160 for Entertainment Tonight and so. But it was it was 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.520 really interesting that we never really had a serious personal 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.920 conversation for years. Um, I do a ton of interviews. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.680 Obviously been doing this for seventeen years, and I hate 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:22.920 to say this, but a lot of times I just 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:24.600 you just get in the mode and you're just going 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:25.800 and blow you know how it is, and you're just 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.440 you're not even really paying attention to who who's interviewing you. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.840 You're just giving the answers you're supposed to give, and 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.440 you're moving on. Um. And then we finally actually had 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:38.079 a real conversation. Okay, it was great. At what point 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.040 do you get to the place like, was it assion 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.720 a discussion between you and her of Okay, we're going 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.679 to be public about this. It was one of you 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.800 kind of pushing each other more for that or was 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.640 it a mutual decision that you guys kind of came 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.840 to It was a little bit. It was more on 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.719 her end, just because I have the ability to not 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.160 care to a certain degree a lot more than she does. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.600 I've been doing this for seventeen years, and I mean, honestly, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.240 if it comes out i'm dating who does like like, really, 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:12.160 it's not gonna hurt me, um, and so like fine, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.600 fire me, um, but no, it's it's so why would 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.480 be fired? And I'm just kidding. I'm just That's my 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.120 My point is, it just doesn't matter for me, you know, 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.120 bar unless it's something scandalous or crazy or whatever, who cares. Um. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.040 I think for her, I think, you know, with her 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:30.960 career and being a journalist and being good at what 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.520 she does, and she is exceptional at what she does, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.760 she just was very you know, cogns into the fact 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.600 that you know, she didn't want it to be misconstrued 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.400 and you know, and anybody to think ill of it, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.400 and um. And so I just respected that. It was 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.040 great and honestly, that was the best way to go 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.199 about it for quite some time, was to just enjoy 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.240 your lives. And I'm such a private guy anyway. My 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.880 my private life has always tried I've tried to keep 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.440 it so even when I was married, after my divorce whatever. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.360 I just I have my my kids and my my 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.400 family and what I do on air and the shows 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.240 I host, the shows I produce and all that, UM 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.120 is great. I don't mind being out there in front 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.040 of it, but my private life I've just kind of 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.800 kept off the pages and it's worked well. Is it 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.320 hard though? Being around I mean, I know the Bachelor 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.800 has twenty five beautiful women. But I mean you're also 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.120 around that too, So is that hard to then kind 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.160 of be like, oh, there's something shining and bright over there, 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.520 there's something shining and bright over there. Well, again, with 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.960 age comes wisdom. Um. And I'm smart enough to know 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.880 I was married for a long time and have dated 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.200 now for you know, almost a decade too, and the 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.320 grass is never greener. So it's it's I'm so beyond 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.320 that in my life. Um. And so now it's you know, 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.959 it wasn't a problem when I was married, when a 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.160 problem post marriage? Um, and obviously not a problem now. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.480 Do you think because you've been doing it for seventeen 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.440 years you kind of I don't mean it's in a 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.160 disrespectful way, but dehumanize the whole aspect where you're you're 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.360 there for work, you do know, and and and it's 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.640 it's a good point. It's it's more so because people 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.120 have alway has asked me about this. Hey, it's not 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.800 like we're all hanging around like this, sitting around drinking 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.560 wine and sitting around in a hot tub. Nine times 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.520 out of ten, I am more worried about what we're 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.959 getting because it's it's my livelihood. This is my job, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.520 and is this is a baby I created seventeen years ago. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.040 I was trying to make good TV and if and 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.520 whatever I can do to that end, that's what I'm doing. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.880 Um and and to your kind of what you said, 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.640 it sounds terrible, dehumanizes it, but yeah, you don't look 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.320 at everybody is people And there's a couple of people 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.000 in this room right now. And it's funny because I've 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.480 gotten to know both of them much better and become 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.560 friends after the show. I wasn't friends with them on 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.360 the show because that's not what you're doing, and you're 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.120 not even having that personal conversation and really getting to 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.160 know them. You're just you're You're doing what you need 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.920 to do to create good TV. And then afterwards I 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.319 often meet a lot of these guys and women am 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:55.080 like wow, like you're you're really cool. Do you ever 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.280 feel bad though you hear them in the wrong direction, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.360 like if you ever felt bad that you maybe put 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.160 words in their mouth or maybe like hey, maybe you 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.640 should do this to make the good The only time 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.560 I really felt bad, and I mean, I'm sure if 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.280 I thought more over seventeen years. But Ashley A. Bear 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.040 Um had this dude on her show, some Canadian guy 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.640 name escapes me, what was his name? He he had 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.559 a girlfriend back home or something. I forget what the 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.840 story was, and we just let it go a little 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.600 too long and trying to let her find it out. Naturally, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.319 I should have stepped in a little sooner and and 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.920 helped her and pushed her and pulled the plug because 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.680 she was started. She started to fall for the guy, 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.480 and so it hit her kind of hard. I mean, look, 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.400 it all ended up great, and her and yeah, and 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.800 and I ended up marrying them, um, and so it 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.480 all ended up great, and we're all good friends. I 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:46.800 just wish and I told her, I wish I had 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.079 stepped in a little earlier and not been you know, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.600 because what we try to do is let people figure 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.280 out for themselves, right right, Well, yes, and but it's 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.959 also there is this weird gray line that we've always 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.840 never wanted to cry loss was say, say Colton, for example, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.160 right now, where you're hearing and seeing stuff on camera, 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.320 he's not. People often say, well, why don't you just 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.120 go tell him, Like, well, that's not the way it's 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.559 supposed to go. It's not you know, if if I'm 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.440 just tattle telling on everybody, and it's it's not going 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.760 to work that way. So you want him to discover 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.480 all this stuff as much as possible on his own. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.679 But with Ashley, I should have stepped in a little earlier. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.559 Is it the most dramatic season ever? Pretty freaking good? 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.920 Why does he jump over the thing? You can't tell me, Henny, 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.800 Why does a Colton jump over the fence? Yeah, to 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.960 get away from the Harrison. Because I thought, and I 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.360 was like, oh, I want to watch. Just honestly, I 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.920 wasn't that interested this season. Just I don't know why. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.760 I just kind of wasn't. Maybe because we're busy, I 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.640 don't know. I just wasn't watching. But then I saw 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.080 that preview and I was like, oh, it's a good season. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.680 I mean the ratings were up here now, we're up 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.760 here today. We were crushing America's Got Talent Now number 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.920 one show on Monday, So it's the show is doing 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.640 phenomenally well again. Still, I mean, how many years can 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.240 it go? Eventeen years and it'll go I mean, honestly, 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.920 it's not go anywhere. Do you think it can go 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:05.679 on another fifteen years? The only thing that will take 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.559 this show down. And I've always said this would be 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:12.160 a catastrophic event some some incidents some whatever where on 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:16.240 the show. Yeah, well yeah, around the show or whatever. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.520 Because we have our base. Even when you have a 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.400 season that's not highly rated, we still have our core 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.800 and it does well. Then there are seasons that really peak, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.160 like Colton seems to be doing and we're trending up 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.720 every week now with him, and once we get to 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.200 this point, we're not going anywhere this season. It's it's 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.440 fun when you get a season like this because when 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.720 you're trending up and we from hour to hour to 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.120 hour and week to week, it's only gonna go higher 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.640 and you're just gonna see how high is it gonna go? 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.000 And that's the fun. Those are the fun seasons. Then 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.120 there's those seasons when you're like, oh god, when will 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.400 it be over? Yeah, and you're like, shiny object, look 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.760 over here. No one. Pablo was a well that that's 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.640 that's another misnoverer. People, well is a person When I 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.080 let him date my dog her sister brother, no, I 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.840 would not. I don't think he was a gentleman. I 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.440 don't think he was particularly kind to the women. Um 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.040 and I had issue with a lot of it and 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.880 I told him about it, and um, but TV wise, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:17.040 as a producer's gold, he was great. Apathy is what 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.120 kills me. That's what kills television. Uh. If you don't care, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.960 if you don't have an opinion, um, and you're not watching. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.760 If you hate somebody, you love somebody, that's fine. Who 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.960 do you think the most hated bachelor is out out there? 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:34.000 And the most disliked was probably one part about viewership though, 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.520 who was the least watch them? We know? Lorenzo Borghaze 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:42.880 comes to mind. He was the Italian prince and great well, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.040 Matt Grant wasn't. Matt Grant was not a bad season 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:50.080 the he was London calling, he was British um and 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.920 then but Lorenzo borghese was kind of this high concept 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.040 air to the Borghaze fortune. And if you've ever been 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.640 to Rome, the Borghaze gardens and museums and his great 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.800 great whatever's were cardinals, hugely high in the in the 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.120 Catholic Church. We thought it'd be great, We're taking the 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.160 show to Rome, and we lived in Italy for the 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.040 two months and it just didn't. It didn't work just 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.680 for one reason another do you have any thoughts on 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.080 who the next bachelor will be from the show for sure, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.440 who do you think would be the time? I'm not 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.400 gonna actually give them who do you think because you 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:31.680 can't because then if someone wins, you can't. But that conversation, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.720 I will say this, I think people often think that 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.960 this decision has already made and or that there is 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.560 a decision that is kind of you know, where there's 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.200 this one final decision early on. It is a debate. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.160 It really is this ongoing discussion that starts night one. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.440 We're sitting in the back of a garage, which is 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.440 where we shoot, and we're discussing who the bachelor's going 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.440 to be, who we think could be good. It's there. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.600 There's it's a lot, I mean there you know Mike 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.280 fly uh, you know who's the creator of the show, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.960 Rob Mills, Martin Hilton, executive producer, myself, the other executive producers. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.560 We all kind of have our our opinions and and 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.399 we and you should know we are just as passionate 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.840 and emotional as anybody else. We have our favorites that 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.679 we fight for, and sometimes we get our favorites, and 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.320 sometimes we don't. Sometimes I am not on board with. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.440 Who's someone that you weren't on board with? I would 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.400 never say that. Well, no, it just drives me crazy. Okay, fine, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.240 who do you wish? Who do you wish that would 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.360 have been on the show? You know? Either one off 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.840 the top of my head we missed on was Michelle Money? 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.159 Who is she? Michelle Money from Utah? Should have been 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.000 the back money Michelle Money? Can someone pull her? And 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.040 I don't. She's now odd ironically as we are here 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:50.720 a Pebble Beaches dating Mike Weir. She was on Brad 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.560 Womack season. Oh she's beautiful. Oh I remember she had that, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.639 she had the kids, Yes, she has a daughter. Yes, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:04.080 you know I didn't. Awesome and great, great sense of humor, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:09.679 great attitude. And she was actually very disliked. Yeah, that's 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.080 why because she came off not kind of Yeah, and 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:13.880 then she came on the show. I kind of defended 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.480 her and helped her show this other side and everyone 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:18.760 fell in love with her. And then she went on 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.280 It was a Paradise, Yeah she was. She was on 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.359 Paradise and we're in Mexico. And then she ended up 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.160 with this really big bodybuilder guy and that didn't work out. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.280 And then now she's with Mike Weir, But she's one. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:33.920 There was another one I came up with off the 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.000 top of my head. Um, you know who I thought 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:37.480 would have been good. I don't know where she would 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.479 have fit because we were on a roll right then. 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:45.440 But Claire, I always Claire probably would have been really 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:50.040 good TV and a good bat serette. Oh yeah, she's pretty. Yeah, 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.160 she's cute. I like her. Um, and I was trying 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.320 to think, guys, yeah, wise like who missed out on 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.840 being Okay, I don't know if we have been a 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:04.399 good bachelor, Like, honestly, do you think, yeah, I don't know. 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.919 I will come here, come here, Wells. Here's the thing 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:11.240 with Wells. Can I just say this really fast? For Wells, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.920 I know I know Wells, and for to you too. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.600 Do people go on the show? Like I know that 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.239 if I went on the show. So if you were 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:19.880 the Bachelor, I would want to go on the show, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.480 not saying that I wouldn't buy for your heart, but 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.120 I would want to go to be the next batchelor. Right. Well, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:27.000 that's there. That is a thing. Um. But as far 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.080 as Wells being the Bachelor, I think he's he's probably 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.119 a little too level headed and too normal to be 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.159 the bachelor. He don't say nice things to me right now. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.480 That's just why I don't think you'd be good good 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.159 enough TV. No, that at all. But I wanted to 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.560 hear Chris Harrison say, well has been great. That's all 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:52.879 I wanted me, just because I wanted to hear it. No, 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.800 I don't know who do I think is? I think 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:04.840 Jordan's would have been a good bachelor Kimball. Yeah, he 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.960 would have been good night, thank you. He would have 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.240 been great TV. I could have done a show with him, Yeah, 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.040 because he's the like and there there you go. That 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:13.920 proves my point. He is the opposite side of the 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.240 spectrum from Wells. Yes, I mean, but Wells is you know, 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.240 he's respectable. He can't you kind of remind me of 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:26.760 like a Sean No, no, not not in Wells is 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.520 also a board again virgin No, that's what I meant, 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.680 not in that area. I mean, Higgins is okay, well 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.920 with more zero. I don't know who just said that 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.800 on the open mic, because that was probably the worst 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.320 comment ever made in the history of I Heart Radio 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:49.000 podcasts Wells and Ben Higgins. All right, you know what 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:53.119 nice cute On that note, We're just gonna this is 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.480 why we don't give Sugarman a mic. No, I'm first, 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.399 I gotta ask Chris is playing roll in the paramie? 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:05.240 All right, let's here, Okay, go ahead, go ahead, baby, 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.400 I don't want to belittle you, so I hope go ahead. 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.720 Who's your partner? And that, by the way, that does 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.159 belittle him right there? What when you're patronizing and you 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:14.720 say I don't want to be little? Now here come 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:18.880 the comments again, and she's no, I'm just I'm sarcastic. People, 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.199 I like, I'm very sarcastic. My husband knows I love him. 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.440