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Speaker 1: their new normal. So that's that's all I meant by that.

434
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: I was just like, yeah, I just love.

435
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: To day you think it, You're welcome.

436
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, saying the

437
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: shame rules do apply, Mutual respect is it's it's just period.

438
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: And you know, it's a grace that we should send

439
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 3: to everyone, not just the person that we're with. Uh.

440
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: Clear communication versus assumption. You know, if you assume you

441
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: know how someone feels or how they should feel based

442
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: upon however you're processing it. And that's where we're wrong

443
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 3: as well. I think also having a base together, like

444
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: in a couple. Shit, no matter what your whether you're heteronormative,

445
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: whether you're homonormative, I don't I don't know how you

446
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: would call it, but there has to be some sort

447
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: of return to, you know, to return to start for

448
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: a relationship that you know, if things start to go left,

449
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: let's let's take it back to what we know grounds us.

450
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: For us, it is prayer and meditation.

451
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

452
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: It really is.

453
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: You know.

454
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: One of the things that I loved about him when

455
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 3: we were dating is, you know, I'm a praying woman,

456
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 3: and when I would drop down on my knees, he

457
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: get behind me, wrap his arms around me, put his

458
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: hands over my and cover me to me. Just the symbolism,

459
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, you know, can we get a painting the loop?

460
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: But but maybe that's not for everybody. I don't care

461
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: if you was just going to the gym. You know,

462
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 3: for some people it's like it grounds them, it centers them.

463
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: It's just going to the gym and work it out.

464
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 3: But whatever that home base is for your relateationship, don't

465
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: make it so long before you return to it, you know,

466
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: make sure you revisit what got you guys together in

467
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: the first place.

468
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's not sweet. I hadn't like put a name

469
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: on that. But for us, it's walking, taking a little

470
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: walk in nature. It's usually how we get back. Okay,

471
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: I want to get I mean I could talk to

472
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: you all about that forever. I'm assuming when's the book

473
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: coming out? Are you going to have a marriage book?

474
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: It's in the works, isn't it.

475
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: Well, you know, what we don't claim to be experts

476
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: in any category.

477
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: Even've got to be an expert. You can do whatever

478
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: you want, write a book, but I love the stories.

479
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: I think you have so much to teach it and

480
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: thinks that even we expressed that on a podcast. But

481
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: we do have a lot of experience in certain things

482
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: and have had some experiences that we definitely would love

483
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: to share.

484
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: Okay, got it now? AHATV and y'all starting your businesses together.

485
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: When did that merger kind of happen? Were you doing

486
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: your own thing Egypt and then you might do in

487
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: your own thing. When did y'all decide let's go into

488
00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: this together.

489
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: It started during COVID. You know that COVID was It

490
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: was a redefinition definition period for a lot of people

491
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: because we were trying to get used to the new

492
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: normal working from the kitchen counter, trying to run your

493
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: business and still earn money or be the school team.

494
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you didn't have your kids hearning COVID.

495
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: I had one baby, I had a newborn.

496
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, just a whole new appreciation for teachers though,

497
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: and when.

498
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: They Yeah, thank god I didn't have he wasn't virtual

499
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: homeschool that, Yeah, that's so tough.

500
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: He did that, and so that for us we had to,

501
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: I mean again, out with the old rules. Let's figure

502
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: out how we can survive. And we really wound up

503
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 3: liking the new definition of our marriage because we were

504
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: running our respective businesses from the kitchen island while breakfast

505
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: was being made, while one of us was teaching the other,

506
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: while we're you know, playing that for the other one.

507
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: And ended up it was a lot happening. But we

508
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: were running separate businesses, and the and we kept them

509
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: separate is because we were married. And it's like too much.

510
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 3: Too much is you know, if a good thing can

511
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: be a bad thing, So you run your business. I'm

512
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: gonna remind But as we started filming just what was

513
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: happening around our house, he was doing this on his

514
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: cell phone, we realized how much we were working against

515
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: one another. Literally, I was sending business to other contractors.

516
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: He was sending business to other realtors and designers, all

517
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: for the sake of trying to keep a safe space

518
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: for our marriage. When we realized, you know, really what

519
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 3: it is is if we set loop, we can do

520
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 3: so much better together. You're doing great on your own soul, live,

521
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 3: but we can do so much better together. So it

522
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: was during those COVID years that we I mean, here, here,

523
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: it is right here, here's you want one that's gonna

524
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: be controversial, Yes, please an exclusive, but it is gonna

525
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: be controversial. We decided that we would return to what

526
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: our grandparents did, sleeping in separate bedrooms and separate bits

527
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: for some you know, we had some people say, oh,

528
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: that's the kiss of death.

529
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I thought, as if your butts didn't touch

530
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: when you were sleeping, that's the Steve Harvey thing. That

531
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: is just nonsense.

532
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: Go ahead, But it was beautiful for us so much

533
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: that we love to for a couple of years. But

534
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: it also helped us have that you know, that time

535
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: that you need to just like to yourself so that

536
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: when you return to each other, you can be the

537
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: best version of you. And that's also how we decided

538
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: that we would be able to launch our business as

539
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: long as we gave the other their space that they

540
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: needed when they needed it.

541
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: So let us elaborate on the room separate before somebody

542
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 2: grabs that and tweaks it a little bit.

543
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: That's enough. Let's leave a little bit to do, you know,

544
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: leave a little ambiguity.

545
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: It's important because it's a blessing. A lot of folks

546
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: don't have the ability to go into another room, depending

547
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: on your room, especially you live in a loft in

548
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: New York City, you like you go to the couch

549
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: and go to the table. They don't have that ability,

550
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: but those that do are understand that. Man, I would

551
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: love a reset right now. I'm not mad at them,

552
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: but a reset would be amazing. To listen to what

553
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: I want to listen to, to watch what I want

554
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 2: to watch, you know what I'm saying, to eat what

555
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: I want to eat, in peace, et cetera. So when

556
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: that happened, it was a matter of where we saw that. Okay,

557
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: we both had the kids all day at the same time.

558
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: How about let's do this Monday. You have the kids. Tuesday,

559
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: I'm going to this room and vice versa.

560
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: It's co parenting at its finest. There's some z it's

561
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: not a bad deal. Divorce parents, the co parenting, I

562
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: admire that. So bringing it into your marriage like that's.

563
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: It created such peace, you know, because of something. You

564
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: don't want to get so lost in each other that

565
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: you lose yourself. Damn, Yeah, you still gotta be You

566
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: still gotta have guys night, you still gotta have girls night,

567
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: and it all makes sense. Otherwise it's like all I

568
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: have is them, So when they're not here, I don't

569
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: know what to do. Right, don't lose yourself and work,

570
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: don't lose yourself in each other.

571
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: And So during that time, Mike, when you were in Atlanta,

572
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: and I know you said you weren't doing so well,

573
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: or Egypt said that, I'm wondering when how did you

574
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: go about as a man building community in Atlanta and

575
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: how did you make those connections? And then Egypt, how

576
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: did you help him? Because sometimes I'm like, do you

577
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: want me to set you a playdate? Because I feel

578
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: like I'm so good at making connections. I'm like your

579
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: friend from college, I'll email his wife like we'll get

580
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: you guys together.

581
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: But how did you do that? Mike?

582
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't, you know. And that's part of

583
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: the problem because the person that I am, I'm going

584
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: to hold on the things. Nobody needs to know what's

585
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: going on within my household. So unless you were one

586
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: of my cousins that I have ten thousand of or

587
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 2: one of my great, great, great friends that I went

588
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: to school with, there's only two of them that are

589
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: here in Georgia. My thing is in your household. You

590
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: can't tell everybody everything otherwise they start judging your other person.

591
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: So my thing is I had to work on it internally, right,

592
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: And I also knew that it wasn't forever. This is

593
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: just a time period in my life that is in

594
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: transition phase. So the new phase is coming, so I'm

595
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: not going to get it as frustrated. What the frustration.

596
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: The frustration came in when you try to explain yourself.

597
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: Are you request certain things? And again, how the person responds,

598
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: in their tone, what they say, that's what makes it worse.

599
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I moved here. We moved here because

600
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: of you, and I'm not where I need to be,

601
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: but you're not even respecting just little requests or certain

602
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: things I say. Right, So it wasn't listen, I love

603
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: being a girl dad. I would do that heart beat

604
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: it deal with none else. I don't care about finances

605
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: or the look. That wasn't the issue. It was again,

606
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: let's just still treat each other with respect, no matter

607
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: how much this person may have or we may have.

608
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: It's just that mutual respect.

609
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: But I will say, because you know, one of your

610
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: questions was, well, how did you build community and you know,

611
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: to be able to have guys night and one have you?

612
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: I think us recognized and that did come out of therapy,

613
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: us recognizing that part of our challenge was when we

614
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: moved here, we only had each other. You know, up north,

615
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: he had a huge group of friends. I had a

616
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: huge group of friends, and when we moved here, we

617
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: really did have to cling to each other and it

618
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: was just too much.

619
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Like you know, was that during the pandemic or before before?

620
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Okay before and.

621
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: So again, intentionality and what we do across the board

622
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: is important when you recognize that something is really missing

623
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: that you need. Maybe you thought you didn't need it

624
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: as much. I need girl time. I'm a girl's girl.

625
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: He needed guys time away from all the girls. So

626
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: what we did was start to become intentional about forging relationships.

627
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: That's one of the ways that our podcast came together

628
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: because we realized, okay, all right, we meet eight nights

629
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: with couples, So let's create this podcast where we can

630
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: invite folks who are doing it successfully or those who've

631
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: been through something, so they could teach us how to

632
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: get through things or other couples who are dealing with

633
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: having three kids and businesses, so we can build relationships.

634
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: And it really has done exactly what we carved for

635
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: it to do, because we now have a lot of

636
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: couple of friends and he'll have his guys nights. A

637
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: big part of it was, you know, you said, Egypt,

638
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: how do you support that? I don't make him feel

639
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: guilty about it? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, Oh,

640
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: you just won't go hang with the Yeah, I don't

641
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: do that because y'all.

642
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Have a secure base now and you're not. I think

643
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not that you're doing something else. It's just like,

644
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: but you haven't filled this cup and then you're gonna

645
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, and I think, I mean it's a I'm

646
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to hear some of the themes that

647
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: we've talked about. It gives me a lot of confidence

648
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: in my relationship and sort of the changes that we've

649
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: been making. It gives me like hope. It also reminds

650
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Speaker 1: me to what you said. This this mantra that I

651
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: have is like this is a face. It will not

652
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: be forever. My son doesn't want to wear pants in

653
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: the morning. He sent him to school with no pants,

654
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: my two year old, not the fireirl and I and

655
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Speaker 1: normally I would be like screaming, like put your pants on.

656
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: He'd be screaming. I'm just like, you know what, you

657
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: want to rock with no pants? Here's a pretzel rod, like,

658
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: here's some orange hues, like you're it's fine day care.

659
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: I pay them enough, they can put your pants on,

660
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: you know. And same with the relate And that's just

661
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: been really freeing for me, and it's nice to hear

662
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: that that's been helpful for y'all as well. Hey, BA Fam,

663
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: we got to take a quick break, pay some bills,

664
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Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. Welcome back, bea Fam. Let's

665
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: get back to the show. Okay, So the podcast, is

666
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: this your first season doing it?

667
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: We're going into our second sees, this.

668
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Speaker 1: Is your second season. Okay, So can you tell BA Fam,

669
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Speaker 1: like who's your ideal listener? Like, who do you want

670
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: to reach and who's the podcast for you?

671
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Speaker 2: Go first ideal listener? Huh? I mean obviously, I mean,

672
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: but not for nothing. So again, it's marriage and money,

673
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: so we don't just hone in on relationships. I mean,

674
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: your average teenager can tune in and hear some advice

675
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: on financial tips. Right, So I would say everyone just

676
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: tune in and get what get from it, whatever you

677
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: think is good for you.

678
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have we have married people listen and just

679
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: kind of chime in or ask questions, or they've sent

680
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: us letters just saying, oh my god, you are me

681
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: and I am you, you know, and how we delt

682
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Speaker 3: with that and how transparent you guys were about that

683
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: really helped me figure out where I am. But we've

684
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 3: also had a lot of single people say I watch

685
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: because I recognize I have to become the man to

686
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: marry the woman that I want, or I have to

687
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: myself as a woman to attract the type of man

688
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: that I want. And so what do they say, being

689
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: in the room is half the battle. So watching the

690
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: podcast is half the battle, you know, to understanding the

691
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: psychology of your mate or your future mate. If we

692
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: just to understand instead of behard. God. So it's fun,

693
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: is fun, like hats off. It's fun. You're gonna learn

694
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: a lot, you're gonna laugh a lot, and it's in

695
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: sider us you won't get from TV. I mean.

696
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Speaker 2: And that's another part of why we created the podcast, right,

697
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: because we knew there was a certain audience we weren't

698
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: touching that needed to hear the other side. Get You

699
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: get the ACTV side, but you also get a whole

700
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 2: other side that you do not see on at TV

701
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: because they edit it out. You know, we've had folks

702
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: come up to us and even those that come on

703
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: the show, you know, if they've ever had hesitation that

704
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: Washington go oh, I can do this. And I'm saying

705
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Speaker 2: that to say because our show, Yeah, we go there,

706
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: but it's such positive energy. You know, we're there to inspire,

707
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: share our experience, share the couple's experience, not to tell

708
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Speaker 2: you what to do. And this is how it's supposed

709
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Speaker 2: to be done. Because we don't do that, we don't

710
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Speaker 2: know that. We're still you know with forever learning, right, Mandy, what.

711
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 3: Our podcast should be called is figuring it the hell out.

712
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Speaker 1: I would tune in immediately. Money and marriage is just

713
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Speaker 1: like oh ew I mean like marriage is hard. Money

714
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Speaker 1: is well for me. I love talking about money and

715
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: marriage to me is a challenge. But it's almost like

716
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: the two most conflicts, like the two most like emotionally

717
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: charged topics in a relationship. I know we don't have

718
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Speaker 1: a lot of time left. So I did want to

719
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Speaker 1: ask y'all, just financially speaking in your relationship, what are

720
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Speaker 1: some of the if you can, like pinpoint a couple

721
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Speaker 1: of lessons to leave be a family with some gems on,

722
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Speaker 1: you know, learning how to talk about money in your

723
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Speaker 1: relationship and do that in a healthy way.

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Speaker 3: Well. So money can be a love language to some,

725
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: but it can also be the kiss of death for others.

726
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: You have to understand how the other person grew up, right,

727
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: And so some folks grow up where they just their

728
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: family just doesn't talk money because it's a stress work

729
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: because they don't have any you know, I don't everybody

730
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: don't talk to me about it. I owe everybody, uh,

731
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Speaker 3: And so it can cause a level of discomfort. It's

732
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: also one of the top reasons. So it's not just

733
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Speaker 3: stop marriage the stop relationships. It's one of the top

734
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Speaker 3: reasons that relationships fail because you know of either financial

735
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: infidelity or you know, feeling like the egg the yolk

736
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: is unequally balanced, if you will, and resentment grows awful.

737
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Speaker 3: So for us, it's about developing a love language that's

738
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Speaker 3: comfortable for everyone around money so that you can grow together.

739
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Speaker 1: So what does that look like I'm talking like bitcoin

740
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Speaker 1: or like do you just mean you're talking like do

741
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Speaker 1: you guys have schedule time to discuss.

742
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Speaker 3: You know, let's we call it taking a seat at

743
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Speaker 3: the table. So in our house, we you know, in

744
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: our kitchen, we got this great, big table and all

745
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: the bills we'll just laid out. Our financial plan will

746
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: be laid out. What ever, we try to bring it

747
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: to the table when one of us has a concern

748
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: or has made an expenditure or done something the other questions.

749
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Speaker 3: But we compartmentalize our lives in this way so that

750
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Speaker 3: we know that when we show up to the table,

751
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: this is what we're talking about. The conversation might get

752
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: a little bit uncomfortable, but that's what we bring it

753
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: to the table for. But then any other time we're

754
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: not talking about that. Why because you know, we don't

755
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: need to talk money all the time. But we don't

756
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: the same page. If one of us passes away, what

757
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: is the other one going to do? Have we made provision?

758
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: You know? Do we have instruction? Have we thought about that?

759
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: You know? If both of us leave this earth, what

760
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: happens to our kids? You know, these are the conversations

761
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: people are often not comfortable with having with the other

762
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Speaker 3: just because it just feels very uh.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the night, it's like I'd

764
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: much rather just sit down and binge watch old episodes

765
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: of Living Single with you than sit here. And so

766
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: you go for what's gone comfortable, like we're really going

767
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: to spend the fifteen minutes we have. It takes it

768
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: to a discipline.

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Speaker 3: Comfortable with making more money, saving more money, or financial

770
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: planning for the security of your family. You know, look,

771
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: we're not financial advisors either. But as a matter of fact,

772
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: I grew up my early part of my life we

773
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: were on welfare. You know. My mom was eighteen when

774
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: she had me, nineteen when she had my sister. And

775
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: so if I can do it, if he can do it.

776
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: He grew up with a single mind, no father. You know,

777
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: he also grew up in the project. If he can

778
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: do it, if we can do this, then anyone can.

779
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: And it really is not rocket science, you know, it's

780
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: just about being in the room, getting the information and

781
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: using it.

782
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: I would say this as well as a couple. And again,

783
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: like you said, even beyond marriage before that is that

784
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: understand that you don't know it all right, And be

785
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: okay with that. It's okay to reach out to financial advisors.

786
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: It's okay to reach out to an eldor or a

787
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: mentor that can help you. Right, Because you don't want

788
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: to sit there at the table or wherever you've made

789
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: meet up and feel like you're either hiding things because

790
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: you don't know it, or you just don't know it

791
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: and you're being prideful and you don't want to say anything.

792
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: So don't be afraid to reach out for those that

793
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: know more than you.

794
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am, I know what you're thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah

795
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: again about that living single? So you know, so let

796
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: me just approach you this way.

797
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

798
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: This sex is so much better when you don't have

799
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: to worry about finding.

800
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: Just any sex and just the sex happens. It's probably

801
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: like a direct relations, like a direct yeah one thing

802
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: because I did have a thought, but now I done

803
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: lost it. No, I wanted you to oh man, And

804
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: the same way if I have a joke, I gotta

805
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: say it, ah, damn it.

806
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: What were you.

807
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: Saying, mom, when you're talking about marriage? This is also

808
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: like postpartum brain. Okay, whatever I was gonna reach out to?

809
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh right, Oh, thank you? Yes, I really want to

810
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: ask I've been asking this of guesses. Tell me how

811
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: you stack your money team, Like who's on the team,

812
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: because you guys said that you know with your I

813
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: don't know if it was your second or your third daughter.

814
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: You you're you know, after going through that like not

815
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: great couples therapy experience, that then you were like, we

816
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: need to build a team of support around us. So

817
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: can you can you talk a little bit about that?

818
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: Because there is this missed I believe this misconception that

819
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: it's just you two against the world when really you

820
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: need Hopefully you're going to tell me that we need help, right, Okay.

821
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: Have a lot of money, you don't. You don't have

822
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: to have a lot of money to get a financial

823
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: advisor or to build a team. You don't. You can

824
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: start from where you are with what you have, and

825
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: just what you really do need to do is develop discipline.

826
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: But for us now, this phage, you're not phase in

827
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: our life. What you what I recommend is you get

828
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: a financial advisor. Make sure the reduciary. Here's a difference, fool.

829
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Yes you're speaking my language, work in our best interest,

830
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: no commissions.

831
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: Right, So you get yourself a conduciary financial advisor and manager.

832
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: You also need an incredible CPA. That's important because it's

833
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: not about how much you earn, it's about how much

834
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: you do.

835
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Do you guys have the same CPA, Yes we do, okay, gotcha?

836
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: And so you know, having a CPA that can help

837
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: you leverage and keep and you know, use tax havens

838
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: legal ways that the rich are not. You know, you

839
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: want to know that even if you only make twenty dollars,

840
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: how do you keep the whole twenty dollars? You know,

841
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: when you hear about people who don't pay taxes, it's

842
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: not that they're skirting it, but there literally are legal things,

843
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: in legal ways and tax havens that will help you

844
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: keep more money in your PODCET. The other thing is

845
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 3: using insurance as a tool to grow wealth. Just because

846
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 3: you don't have a million dollars in your life doesn't

847
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: mean that you can't ensure that if you need that.

848
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: You're significant other or your children don't have it. You know,

849
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: when you're gone, just don't tell them that that you're

850
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: better off there.

851
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: And then so life insurance okay, gotcha? Okay, yeah, you know.

852
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: Build your your financial dream team if you will. But

853
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: those are just three to have on your team. A

854
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: good insurance person, you know, a great CPA, and a

855
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: good produciary.

856
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: But what about with like the day to day duties

857
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: and things that for us as a couple, it's just like,

858
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: do we need to be doing the on ourselves? Do

859
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: you guys spend a lot on like the domestic kind

860
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: of help. Do you spend on extra childcare, nannies, tutors.

861
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: That's exactly where I was getting ready to go because

862
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, yeah, financial sounds good,

863
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Speaker 2: but I can't even afford to get out of the

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Speaker 2: house because I have kids. Right. So we also have

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Speaker 2: an amazing support system. I mean when we moved here,

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Speaker 2: several of my family members moved here, including my mother

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Speaker 2: right away. It's not right away, but they we do

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Speaker 2: tend to suck amenda we're doing, and they understood that

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Speaker 2: they don't need some help. So we are only able

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Speaker 2: to do all that we do because we do it

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Speaker 2: in peace, understanding that the girls are fully safe and

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Speaker 2: okay those who raised us exactly, So we have that

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Speaker 2: around the house. Yes, we have the landscape or we

874
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Speaker 2: have the pool guy. We have people that allow us

875
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Speaker 2: to be able to again, be creative, go out and

876
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Speaker 2: break the deals and get the deals. Otherwise it just

877
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Speaker 2: wouldn't work.

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Speaker 3: However, I recognize what you're saying. Man, you know there's

879
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: folks watching who don't even have family. We don't have

880
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: that support. And so again, how do you start where

881
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: you are? And the reality is, if nothing else when,

882
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Speaker 3: then we are resourceful? Right we are? We are resourceful.

883
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Speaker 3: And so there are home pods, there are networks of

884
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: single mothers, there are networks of you know, mothers out

885
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: there trying to get their life that if you team up,

886
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: maybe maybe you can't afford a nanny by yourself, but

887
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Speaker 3: maybe if you and two other or three of the

888
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: or stay at home moms or mothers who want to

889
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Speaker 3: get back out into the work sphere team up together together,

890
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Speaker 3: you can afford a full time nanny. Right. And it's

891
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Speaker 3: just a matter of whose house or the kid's gonna

892
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Speaker 3: be at this week? Go who's you know, where's the

893
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Speaker 3: people to watch the kids? Which is the safest house,

894
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Speaker 3: which is centrally located. But then together again, that's what

895
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Speaker 3: I say. We can do a lot on our own,

896
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: but we can do so much more together. Don't be

897
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Speaker 3: afraid to ask for help, and I do believe it's

898
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: called the Brown Ambition Podcast. I do believe as Brown women,

899
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Speaker 3: we often think that we have to wear an s

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Speaker 3: on our chest and be all things to all people,

901
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: and that it's all almost blasphemy when we say I

902
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: can't do it or I need help, and we have

903
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 3: to stop that, you know, we just have to stop

904
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: that because it's unrealistic expectations for us to live up to,

905
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Speaker 3: which is why mental health issues are at an.

906
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Speaker 1: All time high.

907
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: So if you need help, if you need resources, guess

908
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: what we have so much at our fingertips that you

909
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: can find a support group. You can find a Facebook

910
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: page or Facebook group of people just like you feeling

911
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 3: the same and asked for the help.

912
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: You do research on them. You can't trust everybody.

913
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, right before the end, we know. I

914
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Speaker 1: think that's beautiful. I have what I call a sister wife,

915
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: only you know, not the weird husband part, but just

916
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: she and I together, and I told her, I'm like,

917
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: every Sunday we need to have a talk. What do

918
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Speaker 1: you need? What do you need? What deadlines are at school?

919
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Speaker 1: Did I forget about? I just love that message. I

920
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: hate that you have to go but it's been so

921
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: wonderful to get to know y'all. Thanks for sharing your

922
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: light with me and such great vibes and giving me

923
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Speaker 1: just all these gems. Oh yeah in the b BA fam,

924
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: not just me, but thank you so much for the gems.

925
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Speaker 2: Get your son some pants.

926
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Speaker 1: I sent him with pants. They were in the bag.

927
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: They were I had an idea, you know, I had

928
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: ideas of clothing for him, like just the yeah, yeah, yeah,

929
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Speaker 1: it's it's fine. Where can people find y'all? Where can

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00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: we listen to I'm assuming Marriage and Money is wherever

931
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: you can get your podcast, including this one. If you're

932
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: listening to BA, just go ahead click over, download their show,

933
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: make sure you follow it, leave a review, right, I

934
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Speaker 1: know how it is.

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Speaker 3: Look Egypt and Maje on YouTube all days Egypt and

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Speaker 3: Mike Wednesday nights, eight Eastern, seventh Central, you can watch

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Speaker 3: Marriage and Real Estate. You can also stream it our

938
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Speaker 3: stream on Max as well, and then Indigo Road our

939
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Speaker 3: home furnishing line. You'll see it in stores next month.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be in more than three hundred. Jason Plenis stop.

941
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: Really we didn't even talk congratulations.

942
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Speaker 3: On our side.

943
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Speaker 1: I love that name Indigo Road.

944
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Speaker 2: We didn't.

945
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: We could have talked for hours. You gotta come back,

946
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: will you come back? I just signed with iHeart and

947
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: they have a studio in New York and Atlanta. So

948
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: maybe the next time I'm in Atlanta.

949
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: Come see you in person.

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00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, thank you all so much. Well here,

951
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: you can do that what I.

952
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: Used to say on the stupid make extra money. That

953
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Speaker 3: was my first real business.

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Speaker 1: That's so sweet.

955
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

956
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you up on that. Don't be a

957
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: surprise like that would be amazing. Okay, y'all gotta go,

958
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: you're busy, Okay, va fam thank you so much for

959
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: listening to this week's show. I want to shout out

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00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: to our production team, Courtney, our editor, Carla, our fearless

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Speaker 1: leader for idea to launch productions. I want to shout

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Speaker 1: out my assistant Lauda Escalante and Cameron McNair for helping

963
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: me put the show together. It is not a one

964
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: person project, as much as I have tried to make

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Speaker 1: it so these past ten years, I need help, y'all,

966
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Speaker 1: and thank goodness I've been able to put this team

967
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Speaker 1: around me to support me on this journey. And to

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Speaker 1: y'all be a fam I love you so so so

969
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: so much. Please rate, review, subscribe. Make sure your sign

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Speaker 1: up to the newsletter to get all the latest updates

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Speaker 1: on upcoming episodes. Are ten your anniversary celebrations to come,

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Speaker 1: and until next time, talk to you soon, ba bye.