WEBVTT - Episode 439: Should The Mariners Put Kade Anderson In The Rotation Or Bullpen When He Is Promoted? (Mailbag) 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.360 Welcome to episode number four thirty nine of the Marine 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.120 Layer Podcast. It's a mailbag episode, so we'll open it 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.039 up and answer your best listener questions. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:08.920 Your guys. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.040 Reminder before we start the show, just make sure you're 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.399 downloading these podcasts if you're listening, and make sure to 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.440 rate and review five stars. Go hit subscribe on YouTube. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.239 You can also check our website marine layerpod dot com. 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.639 You'll find our episodes, our Patreon, our podcast merch. Go 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.880 get yourself some merch. It's all at marine layerpod dot com, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.200 and then follow us on social media. We're everywhere. We're 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.960 posting content every day at marine Layer Pod. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:47.320 Let's get it rolling and welcome you to this episode 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.839 of the Marine Layer Podcast, part of the Just Baseball 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:55.000 podcast network, Recording here on Tuesday evening, August fourth. The 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.120 Mariners have played their first game post deadline and on 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:02.200 Brain with the twenty twenty six team. Went exactly how 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:03.960 you expected to a t. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.280 The best way I can describe it is it was 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.319 an absolute meme. That game was a meme. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.400 You had an absolute masterclass of Seattle Mariners baseball. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.720 I mean it starts off by seeing the lineup come 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.600 out in the afternoon, and your big trade deadline bat 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:27.240 acquisition is hitting eighth, which, by the way, that lines 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.040 up with exactly what we were trying to temper people's 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.680 expectations with on Taylor Ward for three months. This guy 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.520 has not slugged. He just hasn't really hit a ton. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.840 He hasn't hit righty's and the Mariners clearly know the 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.200 same thing because they're hitting an eighth now. To be fair, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.399 on the other side of that coin is when he 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.400 faces a lefty, I'm sure he's gonna hit toward the 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:53.000 leadoff spot first or second. But he's hitting eighth against righties. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.919 And he's not supposed to be a rob Refsnyder platoon player. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.480 He's supposed to play every day. He's hitting eighth. This 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.120 is the guy that hit thirty six home runs last year. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.520 Meanwhile, last year, if you go back to the deadline, 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.600 Josh Naylor was betning cleanup and Aenio Swarz was betning 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.160 fifth and their first game in the lineup together. Yep, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:15.360 it's a little bit different. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.400 Yeah again, this was this was your big acquisition to 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:20.520 the deadline. He's hitting eight. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:27.839 Just and then Sir Anthony Demingez makes his debut late 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.760 in this game and gives up two home runs and 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.160 doesn't finish his outing. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.760 Yeah, well, hey, didn't walk people, that's what he usually did. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:40.600 Oh well, actually that's not true. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.480 He absolutely did walk people, and then he gave up 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.040 a bomb man That sounds familiar to Sir Anthony de 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:46.480 Mingue's t Mobile Park outing. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:51.040 Hmmm, maybe he was getting PTSD to his last outing 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:51.520 in the park. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.959 Could be Ye, well, did he pitch in the Mariner 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.000 series this year? He might have. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.840 Oh yeah, he might have. That makes sense. But anyways, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.440 since he was up close and personal, spending more time 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.040 at the ballpark than he normally would, given that he 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.440 just got traded here, maybe you know, maybe it triggered 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.400 those flashbacks a little bit. I want to go through 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.079 the checklist here, just because you and I were talking 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.080 about this before game, and like, wouldn't it be so 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:24.400 funny if like this, the Mariners just got off to 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:29.000 a classic twenty twenty six Mariners post deadline start and 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.679 everything that could go wrong went wrong. Well that's exactly 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.920 what happened today, because, like the score looks exactly how 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:40.040 the game went. A lifeless performance by the Mariners against 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.200 a team that sold at the deadline. Yeah, all right, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.160 let's do checklist right. Checklist number one main deadline bat 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:56.480 hitting eight at DH went hitless. Deadline reliever picked up, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.800 made his debut, gave up two home runs finish the inning. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.960 Yeah the h I mentioned Taylor word went hitless. The 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.840 Mariners didn't score a run in their first game post deadline. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.640 The Mariners lost eight nothing to a team that's sold 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.160 at the deadline. And then to cap it all off, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:20.800 Dan Wilson started his press conference tonight with tough one. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.160 Okay, As I often like to say on the pod, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.800 I know we're on the trust tree with all our listeners, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:32.800 so I'm okay admitting what a sicko I am. When 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:37.159 the Mariners win games, I usually do not watch the 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.360 full postgame show. I just don't like I'll be excited 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.200 about the win, happy about the win, but then I'll 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.479 go do the next thing in my day. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.520 When the Mariners lose, I watch the entirety of the 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:49.280 postgame show. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.760 Why because I specifically wait to find out if Dan 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.520 Wilson is gonna say tough one after every loss or not. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.479 That's what a sicko I am. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.040 I like, I think it's so so hilarious, and I'm 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.240 so invested in it at this point that I will, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.240 legit wait around during these postgame shows after losses, despite 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.360 the vibe of the team being much worse and obviously 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.640 the talk of the postgame show not being as upbeat, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.040 I will still wait around just to see if Dan 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.440 Wilson will say tough one and tonight, oh he said it. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.960 You know, he had no other way around, and he 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.239 said it, and now it's yeah, it's on social media. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.280 You're not the only one who does it that. There 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.120 are people, like you said, who sit and wait to 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.640 clip it so they can tweet it, and then there 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.840 are always replies underneath where it's like, is this from tonight? Yeah, yes, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:35.480 from tonight? 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:36.560 Dude. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.680 How has nobody made a compilation of this yet? If 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.080 people really do have the access to these postgame shows 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.720 and are clipping all these things, how is somebody out there, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.440 whether it's I don't know if somebody listening to this 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.360 or somebody on Mariners Twitter, how has nobody made a 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.279 compilation video of all the tough ones from this year? 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.599 Maybe there's some from last year too, but specifically it 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.000 has been very, very unnotice this year. Somebody's got it 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:00.920 clip all these together? 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.480 Right? Have you seen that meme video? 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.120 I'm sure you have, and I'm sure some of you 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.920 that are listening or watching have two of the substitute teacher, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:14.000 like the really old man substitute teacher who walks in 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.760 every day. He's wearing like a slightly different shirt, but 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.400 it's just hello, hello, hello, hello, Like. 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:21.840 Have you seen that? You've seen that? Right? 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.919 Yeah, I'm sure, like if you're online, you've seen it. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.960 How is somebody not compiled the video yet. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.240 Of just Dan? It's tough one, tough one, tough one. Yeah, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:32.880 tough one. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.080 Uh, tough one, tough one, tough one, you know, tough one, 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:36.640 tough one. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.120 Like at some point that's gonna happen. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.279 At some point you'd think he'd stop, but it just 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:45.200 keeps happening. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.480 It's it's it's incredible because i mean again, people keep 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.120 like not only noticing it, but then like resharing it 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.880 on social media because it's become a meme. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.840 So in summary, the Mariners first game post deadline could 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.120 not have gone any worse. If you were hoping for 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.680 a beacon of hope with now less than two months 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.080 to go in the season, you did not get that 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.160 at all tonight. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:17.320 No, Well, before we move on to the mailbag, and 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.520 I mean, unless you have other thoughts from this game, 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.280 I was gonna spend something more in a positive light 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.200 before we get to some mailbag questions. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.760 Well, this isn't gonna make any people feel any more 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.560 positive when we talk about the difference between deadlines this 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.000 season and last season. You know, the Mariners going into 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:38.080 the deadline last year, we're mulling around, and once they 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.240 got to the deadline, their record, you know, there were 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.120 six games above five hundred, but then Mariners went won 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:47.880 eleven of twelve immediately post deadline. Immediately you remember that, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.040 You remember that stretch we were sitting here thinking, feeling 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:56.200 pretty good about ourselves. Were we had flipped from like 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.720 like the team is solid, but it's still it's still 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:03.120 missing pieces, buoyed by a sixty homer catcher to Oh, 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.240 these deadline acquisitions are gonna win the Mariners the World Series. Yeah, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.400 I'll stay watching tonight. One game, in one game of 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.560 data that we have in front of us, it looked 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.040 exactly the same. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.640 Yeah, and there were points last year where we were 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.480 pretty down, but after they got Naylor and Gino, people 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.040 were fired up, and during that stretch in August that 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.440 they went on post deadline. The moment that jumps out 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.320 the most is the Rays game where they hadn't scored 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.200 all game and then Cal hits the three run homer 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.840 off Griffin Jacks to get them to win. That is 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.800 the game that sticks out in my head. I mean, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.200 because that was I mean, that was electric and it 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.120 was one of the clutchest moments of Cal season. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.960 But on top of that, I remember the down moments 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.080 of the season last year being fit, Like when they 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.600 were in Tampa, when it was as bad as humanly possible. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.600 I remember the thought was, I mean, the thought was 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.600 the process of this team was terrible. They're not good enough. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.040 It was if they're not gonna win the World Series 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.640 after acquiring all of these players, or they're not even 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.680 gonna make the playoffs after acquiring all these players, then 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.160 when are they ever gonna do it right? It felt 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.720 almost cursed, I would say at that time. Right meanwhile, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.720 this is just total chronic underperformance across the board. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.480 Right again, since May first, Taylor Ward just has not 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.160 put up a ton of production on offense. It's just 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.360 the truth. It's just the numbers out in front of you. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:27.920 So I hope he turns it around. The Mariners need 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.000 him to. But we're gonna see, all right, I'm gonna 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.199 spend something positive and it ties into some podcast lore. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:36.240 You know where I'm going with this? 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.600 No, actually I have no idea where you're going. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:39.640 Well, you'll know in a second. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:44.080 So some of you already know because we tweeted it 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.839 out over the weekend. But I'm sitting scrolling over the 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.359 weekend on social media just pretty mindlessly. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:51.760 I'm not thinking much of it. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.920 And what do I come across All of a sudden, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.679 I see I mean and saying this sentence doesn't even 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:01.400 feel it should be in this galaxy. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.000 I see Pete crow Armstrong. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.079 Of all people, who has a chance to win the 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:10.000 MVP of the National League. On Kristin Cavalari's podcast, then 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.240 talking about an opening line of Babe Ruth Never Existed? 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.840 Is a take that I have that might be unpopular, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.080 And he starts to go into it, and I obviously 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.360 hear the opening line. I was like, wait, that sounds familiar, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:24.240 Like is there. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:24.760 A tie to this? 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.240 Like is this just a take on his own or 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:28.960 is there some tie to this? So obviously when I 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.240 hear the lion and that just pops up on my feet. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.400 I say to myself, Okay, I'm gonna keep watching, and 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.640 he's like. The next line he says is there is 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.040 a reliever with the Mariners a couple of years ago, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.640 and right there I go, oh my god, you gotta 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:44.160 be kidding. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.720 Like at that very moment, I knew. So it was. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.160 For those who haven't seen this podcast or this clip, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.080 it's Kristin Cavalari's podcast and she had both Pete crow 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.720 Armstrong and Carson Kelly on and I think they talked 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.760 about a variety of different things, including like a bunch 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.880 of dating things in relations things, because I think that's 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:07.040 the big Premisover podcast. But there's some baseball mixed in 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.160 too with those guys. And they started talking about how 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.880 Babe Ruth's not real, and then I hear there was 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.640 this picture with the Mariners and he goes, what was 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:18.320 his name, maybe Sasato, and Carson Kelly goes, yeah, Sasato 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.160 like lefty, and he's like he was on some podcast 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.440 on Zoom and he's going down the rabbit hall of 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.120 how Babe Ruth may have never existed, and Pete's like, Man, 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.320 I'm sitting there thinking to myself, that is awesome. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.240 I was like, you have gotta be fucking kidding. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:39.080 Me, dude, in what I mean, it's been what two 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.480 and a half years since that clip came out at least. 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.720 Yes, but it clearly at some point in time got 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.440 on his feed, which is one absolutely nuts that that 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.520 clip made it all the way to Pete crow Armstrong's 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.559 feed and to the point where he remembered it enough 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.280 where he's still talking about it. And again I was 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.280 I would losing. I was like, there's no way. I 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.480 was like, in what world is the MVP of the 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.400 potential MVP of the National League talking about the Marine 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.959 Layer pod on a podcast with Kristin Cavalari. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:16.680 Listen, go ahead. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.679 I was gonna say, well, we knew that clip made 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.720 its rounds. We definitely heard from a lot of people 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.960 about it, but again, it's been a long time since 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.480 that podcast came out, since we had Sauce on it. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:32.839 We talked about that Pete didn't mention Sausado's walk around 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.280 Queen Anne when he was following the north Star home. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:36.880 Oh yeah, that was Maybee. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.240 Maybe maybe Pete saw that part too, but uh yeah, 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.560 it's just been so long since that podcast came out. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.320 I wouldn't say I forgot, but like the fact PCA 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.240 is like digging it up, I'm like, oh my god, 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.440 I'm like, wow, he's digging back for that one. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.160 Oh so that's how you spun that, that's how you 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:55.520 took that. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.839 Yeah, it was a long time ago. I'm glad. I'm 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.880 glad our stuff is ever Maybe that's my summary. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.000 I am too, But you want my main takeaway from that, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.120 My main takeaway from all that is, in a roundabout way, 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.800 christ and Cavalari knows the marine Layer pot exists. 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:20.960 And to that, I say, Sup, should we have her on? Sure? 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.440 Sure that you make that happen? 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:24.160 Get her on? 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.760 Well, surely that'll be an easy get. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.960 You know, when you were talking about some Marine Layer 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.000 podcast lore, I thought you were going to bring up 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.720 Jerry to Poto talking about going back to a six 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:36.880 man rotation instead. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:41.440 Oh god, yeah, okay, fine, we'll spend a minute on 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.440 this and then get to mail back question. Jerry did 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:49.360 a media session after the trade deadline wrapped up here 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.760 on Tuesday, and one of the questions was about Kate Anderson, 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.400 and he now says they're not gonna move k to 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.440 the bullpen, even though earlier in the summer the reporting 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.520 was that they were planning to put Cad and Sloan 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:06.280 in the bullpen, and they talked about how they need 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.480 to keep Kate Anderson stretched out because he's not at 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.400 the innings that they want him to be at yet 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.240 this year. But in that same presser, there was more 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:18.719 talk about getting creative with the rotation once Kate gets up, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:19.920 and what does that mean. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.320 It's like we just got past it. You know. It's 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.720 the old saying of right when I thought we were out, they. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:31.600 Pull us back in because now they're talking about wanting 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.960 to go back to a six man rotation now at 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.000 least to be fair. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:37.720 At least to be fair. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.600 This would be in September, likely when there's roster expansions 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.520 and an additional reliever added to the roster at the 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:50.600 very least there's that. But why do we insist on 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.320 just throwing these six. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.040 Man rotations NonStop? 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.560 You know what I was thinking about with this, Like 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.840 Jerry's not gonna say it, but like if that happens 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.480 for the Mariners, is that them putting themselves in the 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.640 best possible opportunity in September to win that sounds like 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.720 more of a development thing than like a win, like 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:20.360 a best like build out to win games right one 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.720 hundred percent, especially down this stretch, like those September games, 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.200 if the Mariners find a way to claw themselves back 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.320 into it, kind of like those are big, big games 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.480 they'll be playing in which they need to win these. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.320 So like there are points where the Mariners might change 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.720 their mind on this where they're going to prioritize like 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.880 winning over development. Saying that Kate is gonna come up 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.000 and start no matter what at this point sounds more 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:53.840 like a development over winning, unless the Mariners are going 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.760 to decide to put one of their other starters in 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.840 the bullpen, which changes things like, all right, we want 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.840 to get stretch Kate out, but we still need extra 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.680 bullpen arm Emerson Hancock, Sorry, you're going in the bullpen 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.600 like then, like, okay whatever at that point, but yeah, 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.680 going to a six man rotation in September, Yeah, that 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.640 sounded kind of strange to me. That is not something 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:16.720 I had on my Bengo card. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.000 But even if you were gonna move one of your 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.600 other starters to the bullpen, these are starters that have 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.520 been doing it all year, I know, for as good 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.840 as for as good as Kate Anderson's been, I'm sorry, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.880 let me even rephrase that, for as unbelievable as Kate 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.200 Anderson's been in the minor leagues, you don't know what 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.680 the translation is gonna be like to the big league level. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.240 Nobody knows for sure, And you want to toy around 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.600 with that in September when you're supposed to be in 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:46.280 a playoff chase. Yet something feels real weird about that 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.360 to me, And it more goes along the lines of 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.280 what you were just saying, which is development over winning, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.200 which is not ever what this season was supposed to 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:54.640 be about. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.520 Right, I feel like the team might be better off, 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:01.200 especially given their struggles, with more relief and not as 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:06.080 many starters. Like, you take the extra slot that you're 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:10.879 given for pitchers and you have a reliever, so instead 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.720 of going to a how am I gonna math this out? 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:18.520 It gives you an extra reliever, right, instead of the 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.000 what the Mariners were doing earlier this season when they 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.360 would run a six man rotation with one less reliever. Right, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.800 I kind of just tied myself into a knot with that. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:32.760 With that sentence. But anyways, Yeah, I think Kate would 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.080 do just find out of the bullpen. I hope he 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.800 hits his innings limit too. I totally understand wanting to 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.239 stretch him out. I feel like if he's gonna get 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.960 stretched out as a starter, kind of feel like just 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.040 leave him down. Yeah, in my opinion, if like, if 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.120 Sloan's hit his innings limit and he's ready to pitch 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.120 in the bullpen, bring him up. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.159 Right, agreed. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.840 But if you want Kaide stretched out, then let him 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.800 stay stretched out in the minors. It doesn't like, if 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.440 this season's about winning, go into a six man rotation 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.400 and prioritizing development in September. 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:10.360 That doesn't feel right. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.960 Unless they don't think they're gonna be in that spot, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.440 well possible, Well. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.760 Then that's then that's totally counterintuitive to what they did 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.800 at the deadline. You're going and getting a rental and 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.119 Taylor Ward and then saying we're punting the season. 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.760 I mean, they got a rental and didn't pay that much. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.680 Right, but what's the point of even getting a rental 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.679 to begin with? If you know you're not gonna be 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.359 where you want to be for the season, you don't 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.000 go and trade for a rental. 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.679 Just in case your team turns it around. It's like, Okay, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.480 if if this team turns it around, great, we've filled 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.440 a weakness. If they don't turn it around, then it 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:45.879 didn't really cost us that much. 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.280 That'd be a really, really weird process. That'd be a 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.959 really weird process. Again, middling teams don't trade for rentals. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.240 Well, the Angels do, but that's not he and to 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.080 you want to stop yourself after no. 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.280 In fact, Jerry got up and left that org. I'd 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.280 say for pretty fair reasons. 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.320 I don't think it's the craziest thing to soft buy 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.520 on a roster you're not totally bought in on, especially 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.600 a roster that doesn't have a lot of pending free 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.919 agents like this season. Most of this team will just 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:18.880 be back next year. 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.080 Well, two thirds of your outfield won't be now, Randy 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:22.800 and Taylor Ward. 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.960 Well, that's correct, but that's why I said most, not all. 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.160 Yeah, I don't know. 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