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Speaker 2: and Jones to get notified when we go live. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Jenkins and Jones on The Volume Podcast Network. It

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Speaker 2: is Saturday August. I forgot to write down what date

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Speaker 2: it's going to be on Saturday. It's Saturday, August twelfth.

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Speaker 3: There we go, Shit, Tyler, double check us? Is that correct? Twelve?

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Speaker 4: Alright?

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow tomorrow the tenth, So yeah, tomorrow, Okay, that's Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Two days from the tenth is the twelfth. Yes, feeling tens.

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Speaker 3: Bro like you didn't trust me, You didn't even trust

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Speaker 3: me with the date. I trusted you. Of course I

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Speaker 3: trusted you. You literally did it.

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Speaker 2: You know, John, In my profession, we have a phrase

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Speaker 2: and it's trust but verified, respect, respect, respect. All right.

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Speaker 2: This is a special Silly Billy Saturday, What have you

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Speaker 2: done with your summer vacation episode. We're gonna be breaking

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Speaker 2: down the nation of Japan and also the Renaissance Tour

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Speaker 2: as far as we know, those are the two biggest

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Speaker 2: things going on right now. As always, Jenkison Jones hosted

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Speaker 2: by Lejetro Jenkins aka John Bubba Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody have a gun.

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Speaker 3: I'm Guardie b aka Mike Mother.

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Speaker 1: They pulled hipped us to your fucking gay Mike. You

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Speaker 1: got one over us on us last episode.

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Speaker 3: Last episode? Who told you? Who said it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It was about three three four motherfuckers

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Speaker 4: and I'm today.

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Speaker 3: What was we excited about?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel I feel like I feel

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Speaker 4: like you.

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Speaker 1: It's not a whack when they cannot put that dog and.

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Speaker 2: I threw Jackson up. I threw Jackson up to you guys,

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Speaker 2: which distracted you. But also in my defense, I genuinely

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Speaker 2: was just very sick when we recorded that podcast. I

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Speaker 2: really did not do it intentionally.

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Speaker 3: Also also pass myself too. We had to re record

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Speaker 3: the open a couple of times, so it's just you know,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like.

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Speaker 2: It's a scrimmage loss. It's a scrimmage loss. It doesn't even.

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Speaker 1: Cot coming to you live from Hawaii this time, yeah, everywhere.

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Speaker 2: We're currently recording the Saturday episode of Jenkinson Jones across

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Speaker 2: every time zone in the United States. I'm in Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: John is in l A and Tyler's on the East Coast.

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Speaker 2: So Jesus Christ, that's how dedicated we are to the

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Speaker 2: A is A Jones audience.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for last next podcast and said trans continent to

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Speaker 1: like a month.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, we look, I think people have expressed

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Speaker 2: us obviously. One of the things people like about the

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Speaker 2: And sometimes that's, you know, the news of the day,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's sports, sometimes it's more philosophical whatever.

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Speaker 3: But I know, Tyler and I both had.

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Speaker 2: Really cool, big experiences, and it occurred to me as

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Speaker 2: you know, why not, let's just do this on a

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Speaker 3: And if you're interested, then you know, be interested in it.

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Speaker 3: But that was how if you don't fuck with it,

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Speaker 3: I met his energy. I miss his energy. The detail

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Speaker 2: Well, So my family went to Japan for about two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Some the pythons are taking over Florida, you know what

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Speaker 2: But what we noticed was the lady who got she

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Speaker 3: You know how weird that is that y'all feel that

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Speaker 2: So and the police officers in Tokyo, a lot of

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Speaker 2: something like what that's yeah, that's that's not my experience.

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Speaker 1: Keeping keeping on the topic of the whole you know

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Speaker 1: justice system all. Are y'all aware of how the Japanese

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Speaker 1: death throw functions. No, there's no death row. Prisoners have

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Speaker 1: fucking mental torture that bad ship is bro just waking

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Speaker 1: up every day. Here's steps coming away wondering if that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be your last day? What so, so, so, what's

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Speaker 1: going on for so?

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Speaker 2: But this feeds into some of what I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about in a minute, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: That is that's harsh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they have way lower murder race than us. I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you that motherfucking bund.

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Speaker 2: Well, so this is but so this is what I

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Speaker 2: So it was very uncomfortable at first, and then it

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Speaker 3: Everything was just shrunk.

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Speaker 3: Ten the last ten, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 2: All of the nature is right on top of the

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Speaker 3: Wait, so there is a forest amongst the city, like

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really interesting. Like their parks are very different.

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Speaker 2: I was telling y'all about where we did the prayer

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Speaker 2: I think I sent to y'all, regardless of your views

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Speaker 2: With all due respect Catholicism and Protestantism. Like the idea

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Speaker 1: Eastern Eastern religions seems so tapped into you being a

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I can totally see what you're saying there.

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Speaker 3: I mean when you showed us the shrine and sent

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Speaker 2: And I don't like something I enjoy about traveling is

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Speaker 2: there's no way to answer this, like would someone from

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Speaker 3: Right, Like maybe maybe they would, you know, like look

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Speaker 3: Like basketball baseball, they're chanting. It's like college basketball.

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Speaker 3: And they also in America, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Right over there, man, anything involved whiskey saw That is

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Speaker 2: It was just like you think of like going to

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Speaker 3: The stadiums are clean too, Like inside the stadium.

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Speaker 3: And I was correct. That's not the only thing I drink.

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Speaker 2: And that's actually something that's kind of like Japanese sports

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Speaker 3: But there's so many creatives that come out of Japan,

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Speaker 2: Right, But it really interested me because I obviously like

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Speaker 2: I think most of our friends really despise the idea

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Speaker 3: Like, wow, this is really nice, Like.

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Speaker 2: I think I'll probably write something at some point somewhere.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well that you know, it is what it is, right,

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Speaker 2: And he grew up Japanese sort of on the outside

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00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: of that bubble in that time, you know what I mean.

440
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 3: So that's it.

441
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: I just thought that was like a really interesting perspective.

442
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: I've definitely done a lot of reading since then, and

443
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of continue chewing.

444
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: On that stuff. But very interesting.

445
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 2: Man. It is like for anything you gain, there's a cost, right,

446
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: and like you want to gain some societal order and

447
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: all this other stuff, Well that means you're shoving people

448
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 2: outside of that society to do that, right, You're excluding people,

449
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: and they're doing that very intentionally.

450
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: I remember in high school, you know, like this is

451
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: we were having a conversation. I mean, like it's it's

452
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 3: crazy to think about that now, but we had it

453
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 3: very calmly. But with the Hoopers. And this one homie

454
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: was from like they called him to fear from Zaiir,

455
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He was like the seven

456
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: foot afcan dude to move to Alabama, you feel me,

457
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: And so getting a scholarship, you know, became a lawyer,

458
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 3: brilliant guy, much smarter than everybody that was around him,

459
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

460
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 4: We're having a.

461
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 3: Conversation with all the Hoopers, you know, like Tom Black,

462
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 3: but you know about you know, the parents. That one

463
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: one dude was good. We had one white Hooper that

464
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: was good, and the rest were just like the parents

465
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: basically you know, invested a little bit into the company,

466
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: into the school, right, so they got their kid made

467
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 3: the squad. But we have a real conversation about like segregation,

468
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 3: you know, and integration. And we were talking about the

469
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 3: benefits of segregation where like there has you know, there

470
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: should be a space for people to congregate amongst each other,

471
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: but there should be respect from the you know, like

472
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: so like niggas hanging with niggas, but you know we

473
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 3: respect the white people doing they shit. You feel me,

474
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: but we don't really. I don't go to school with him,

475
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: I don't work with them, you know what I mean? Right,

476
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 3: And he and he was like, he was like that's

477
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: the only way he thinks there will be peace. And

478
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: I remember, at like eighteen, I was thinking, like that

479
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: is wow to say. But they also can see where

480
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 3: he's coming from. I've never thought that because it's always

481
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: was like integration is important.

482
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Speaker 4: You know.

483
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: Separate eco didn't work, but it was the reasons it

484
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: didn't work because white people were being weren't allowing.

485
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't equal.

486
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: There was equal, But if it's truly separate but equal,

487
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: there's a certain level of piece that you're describing. But

488
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: also like I'm not married to rather you feel me

489
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: and I don't have my beautiful daughter, you know, and

490
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: it's there's there's a lot, there's a lot of.

491
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: Family and about four generations back.

492
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 3: You feel me that we're missing out on as well.

493
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, like you know, there's there will be a

494
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: certain level of you know, comfort that we'd always have

495
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: and certain rules that we'd all would follow, and that

496
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: that gives us a certain piece. But we lose a

497
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 3: lot of richness from learning from different cultures, you know.

498
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: So I don't think he believes that way, he thinks

499
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: that way anymore, But it was just a I don't

500
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: know what he thinks anymore. I've talked to him probably

501
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: ten years, but that was just interesting back then him

502
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: saying that to me, thinking like, damn, that does sound

503
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Speaker 3: like that we be peaceful, even though it would be

504
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: missing out on a lot of you know, shared experiences

505
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 3: and growth opportunities. But you saying this kind of reminded

506
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: me of that. But obviously said with me because that

507
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: was a twenty year old conversation. I was eighteen, seventeen

508
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: and a half.

509
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I mean, the fact of the

510
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: matter is we live in a very segregated nations. Vast

511
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: majority of us self segregate in our personal lives, you know,

512
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: with our friends circle and such.

513
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 4: You know, like the only.

514
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: White person has come in my house, you know what

515
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 3: I mean.

516
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: Like, so yeah, I mean, yeah, people are for sure.

517
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: Just I mean, that's just a fact of life.

518
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: People are more comfortable around, you know, their kin folk

519
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: that they're they're people.

520
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think that was like what

521
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 2: I like to think now, and I like, you know,

522
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: Long Beach was really segregated. I mean it still is

523
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: in many ways segregator right, like all of America because

524
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: because wealth is segregated, so the wealthier areas are tend

525
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: to be segregated. But like I was brought up in

526
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: a like the high school that I went to was

527
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: like twenty five percent white, twenty five percent Black, twenty

528
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Speaker 2: five percent Asian, twenty five percent of spaning, and.

529
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: I had friends in all those different groups.

530
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: You talk about the richness, like yeah, like that's my

531
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: life experience is that, like this is great when this works.

532
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: But I didn't really realize until I graduated high school

533
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: that it does not work like that almost anywhere. Like

534
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: like I went to college at Long Beach State, which

535
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: is like five miles from where I went to high school.

536
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 3: Segregated as fuck. Yeah, yeah, the black kids.

537
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: And not hang out with the white kids. The white

538
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: kids and not hang out with the black kids. The

539
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: Hispanic kids were in Larassa. The Asian kids had their

540
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: own group, you know what I mean. And that was,

541
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: like you said, that was done sort of in a

542
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 2: self segregating way. I think the question that just like

543
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't have an answer for it, but I will

544
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: think about it even more now than I have before.

545
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: Is is it possible to have a place like Tokyo

546
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: or Japan or a place like the American suburbs in

547
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: the fifties where everyone is part of it, you know,

548
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: like where we feel like everyone is our kid folk.

549
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: And I don't know how to do that without essentially

550
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: like killing everyone older than us and starting fresh or something,

551
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: because you can't, like you can't and shouldn't try to

552
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: wipe away what like the things that have happened before, right,

553
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: But like, but that to me is the question of, like,

554
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: could you have a place like this where everyone felt

555
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: like they were part of the project, you know, like

556
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: that they were part.

557
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: Of what was being built?

558
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: As opposed to my friend Domo from Long Beach Shout

559
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: out Domo. See save Domo on Twitter. He was in

560
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: Japan right after US. Domo's Blackies from Long Beach is

561
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: from the East Side. He's tatted up. There's a lot

562
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: of places he wasn't allowed to go in Japan because

563
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to have tattoos. He got kicked out

564
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: of the hotel pool because he had tattoos, right, like,

565
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: and it's crazy, it's crazy. But that's like like when

566
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: we talked about the like developed world economies or whatever,

567
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, like America is. I'm certainly not

568
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: suggesting that it's succeeding, but it is. We are attempting

569
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: to have a multi racial democracy and they have not

570
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: really been any of those over sustained periods. And I'm like,

571
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm I'm it makes me feel more invested in the project,

572
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: even if it also makes me question even more whether

573
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: it's possible or not. I guess that is how I

574
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: would put it.

575
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: It seems like your experience because you're you in that space,

576
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: it was peaceful, right, But like you said, Demo's experience

577
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: was totally different.

578
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: And I want to and he and I would add

579
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: he loved Japan, you know what I mean. He just

580
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is interesting. Like I'm just gonna

581
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: go smoke my weed in.

582
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: The forest for sure, for sure, But if there's if there's,

583
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: if you're in I'm wondering, like me, like, even if

584
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: it was I was staying living in a place where

585
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: it's all black people. I don't know if I would

586
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: feel because I mean, like people say all kim folks,

587
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: all skin folk and kim folk, you know what I mean,

588
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: Like even amost black people, there's a lot of different

589
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of differences in the church. For me particularly,

590
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: I felt like I was being when I separated from

591
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 3: my what I I was believed growing up and just

592
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: had my own relationship with God, and I'm allowing that

593
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: experience to develop as I grow and as you know,

594
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: whatever I throwing, like my beliefs from the church. That

595
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: was a big monkey off my back, you know what

596
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I felt like kind of constrained, and I

597
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: seem like that the country runs itself in that way.

598
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how much peace you can have internally, spiritually,

599
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: mentally existing in that way where you're just constrained. So like,

600
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: even though it's clean and all that, you know, like

601
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: there has to be space for differences. I think those

602
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: differences is what causes people to act the way that

603
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: we see here in the States and whatnot, or other

604
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: places that are really diverse. I don't know if it's possible, Like,

605
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: thinking about it, I just don't think it's possible. I

606
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: just don't think it's possible. I think people are too insecure.

607
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead, teller.

608
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: No no.

609
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know, Mike mentioned that

610
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: we're trying to do this whole you know, multi racial,

611
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: multi ethnic democracy that's never been pulled off before. We

612
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: did have a multi ethnic republic pulled off before, and

613
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: it was perhaps the greatest empire in world history, which

614
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: was the Roman Empire. Rome was extremely ethnically diverse, right

615
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: it was. It was not uncommon for high ranking Roman

616
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: officials and the military and the government to be of

617
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: African descent.

618
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 3: Really, I didn't know this. I did not know that.

619
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I did not know that interracial marriage was not a

620
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: big deal at all in ancient Rome. Of course, othering

621
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: has always existed, right like Romans looked down on the Physigoths, like,

622
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, they're barbarians. But if you were a Classicism

623
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: and like that. Yes, but but but Rome was not

624
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: in ethno state. There was no you know, this is

625
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: we are pure Romans because you know, we're white Italians.

626
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: Rome was extremely diverse, and people.

627
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Who didn't even live in Italy and live in Rome,

628
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: but who fell under the Roman rule. Like you know,

629
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: you'd have somebody you know in northern Africa and they

630
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: would say, yes, I'm a Roman, and they were considered

631
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Roman if they were under Roman rule. But the ship

632
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: that changed everything, bro, it was fucking racism. Like like,

633
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: like I've told people so many times, the racism that

634
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: we experienced today is a fairly new concept in human history.

635
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: This came about, you know, the the the the the.

636
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: Version of racism that we have today with where white

637
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: supremacy and anti blackness are the pillars there. That came

638
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: about during you know colonialism where you know, of course,

639
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: you know slavery where you know, you were enslaving black people.

640
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: You know, white people were enslaving black people, and they

641
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 4: created you.

642
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: Know this this this cast system where you know, black

643
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: people were at the bottom and white people were superior

644
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, into ideologies there. So you know, that is

645
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: what kind of do the whole wrenching things because you know,

646
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: like like I said, we had a multi cultural republic

647
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: that was perhaps the greatest empire in world history before,

648
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: but you know, the colonialism and racism have made that

649
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: probably you know, a tough hill to climb up now.

650
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, barring a like world disaster that causes some sort

651
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: of a you know what I mean, like a like

652
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: a reset or something that's I didn't I did not

653
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: know that about Rome. I mean that makes sense too,

654
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: because what we think of as racism now or othering,

655
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: you should be more like England versus Spain, right, I

656
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: mean it should be more nationality based than ethnicity.

657
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: Right right.

658
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: Huh, well hard transition.

659
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: How about Beyonce?

660
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: So, so now we're gonna talk about some goddamn Beyonce

661
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: after that conversation.

662
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: Okay, so ship, we did this.

663
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: I think we might have done this in the wrong order, but.

664
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: Yes, but but you know what, this keeps very much

665
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: in line with the Renaissance album because Beyonce wanted to

666
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: give us something to lighten up the mood after all

667
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: the ship years we had. So it kind of worked

668
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: out for this conversation.

669
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: We appreciate. There we go connected at all. You feel

670
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: we needed that? Go ahead?

671
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

672
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: So so yeah, so so so me and wife. We

673
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: saw Beyonce in in Maryland at the at the Commander's

674
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Arena FedEx Field. Best concert expense I've ever been to

675
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: in my life. I mean, number one the number one.

676
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I've been to a shipload of concert ship. Me and

677
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: John used to kick that south my south West, Like

678
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: we didn't see all types of ship.

679
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: Now you got to drag me to a fest for

680
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: all that.

681
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: I ain't never going.

682
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: Motherfucker bro Jackson talking about doing Coachella for for three

683
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: four days and shit, I'm like, motherfucker.

684
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: Have ain't no mother away dog, ain't something. There's not

685
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: a single person on the planet that I want to

686
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: see enough to get out to a Festal ain't happening.

687
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: I'll get ain't no way go ahead though, But.

688
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know this is this is you know,

689
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: me and a wife.

690
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: We've been to a few concerts and it was always

691
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, conscious that I kind of went

692
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: along just because she really wanted to fuck with it,

693
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, like like like we went to see you know,

694
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: Maya and Faith and stuff, and I fuck with them legends, right,

695
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, and Maya is one of my

696
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: forever crushes too, so and so you know, like ones

697
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: go ahead right right, So so you know it's like,

698
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, I've gone with her to cons like you know,

699
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: it's cool. You know, this is just something I'm gonna

700
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: do for you, really, but you know, I'm enjoying myself

701
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: a bit here. You know, we went to fucking see

702
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: Cardi B in Vegas. Worst concert experience on my motherfucking life.

703
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: And I love Cardi B. But that shit was trashed.

704
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: For one, we had to dress up to get in

705
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. So I'm in that bitch in some goddamn

706
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: khakis and some hard bottoms.

707
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: You got a picture. Hell no, bro toyler at hard bottoms.

708
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: You love the hell out your wife and got married, nigga,

709
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

710
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: And I firmly have a no dressing up on vacation

711
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: especially rule. I have for sure have a no dressing

712
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: up to have fun rule.

713
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And so we was.

714
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: In that muth We waited online in Vegas for like

715
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: fucking two hours want to get in. It was packed

716
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: as fuck. We had to pay like twelve dollars for water.

717
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Cardi B only came out and gave us like a

718
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: fifteen minute set. I'm in that bitch in some khakis

719
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: and hard bottles. While Cardi's on stage talking about He's

720
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna eat my ass like soux fla I'm like, why

721
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: did I need to dress up for this?

722
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: Why? What the fuck is the point? But back to

723
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: motherfucking Beyonce.

724
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: The motherfucking I was more hype for this concert than

725
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: than than my wife was, dog like that renaissance album

726
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: means something to me. Man, I would say that I

727
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: always enjoyed Beyonce's music. You know, I always knew she

728
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: was a phenomenal perform I always knew she was a

729
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: one of one. I always knew she was you know

730
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: that girl. But I would say, like, you know, of

731
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: course I love songs along the way I love like

732
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, me and myself, and I was something all

733
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: the homies rock, so yeah, like you know, I love

734
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: songs like party and shit too, Like you know, I've

735
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: rocked with a lot of Beyonce's music. But I would

736
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: say I really became a fan, like with Lemonade when

737
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: I saw that ship, when she dropped that motherfucking movie

738
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: on HBO, and she just gave us such a personal

739
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: album because that was kind of one of my one

740
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: of the reasons I really never really tapped into Beyonce.

741
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: You know, she's a.

742
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: Famously private person, right, Like her music was just it

743
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: was just kind of you know, your your standard. Oh

744
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: my my heart broke my heart, but I'm gonna still

745
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: see you through or I love you so much, right,

746
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: like she really didn't let us in on her personal.

747
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: Right exactly, she just made a boss.

748
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: But Lemonade was so fucking personal and she really you know,

749
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: like that converted me into a fan.

750
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: I love that fucking album.

751
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: And then Renaissance came out, my favorite album in twenty

752
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: twenty two. Virgo's Groove was my fate, my most played

753
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: song of last year. It's my favorite Beyonce song ever.

754
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm willing to say that now after like a year

755
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: sitting on it. So you know, I was super hyped

756
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: for this concert. So you know, we get out there,

757
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: it's packed as fuck. Of course, you know Beyonce, she

758
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: she knows her audience. I'll say that she had then

759
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: eight o'clock start time, but then to go on until nine,

760
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: which is right or right a line with the cpet

761
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: right there, right, So we appreciate her for that.

762
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: Also it's not too late though too.

763
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: Exactly what exact right, right right? We got out there

764
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: about eleven thirty eleven forty five.

765
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 4: It was perfect.

766
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: So it like while watching that it was just you

767
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: have a moment there. She she did like a thirty

768
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: five song set right like where she did, you know,

769
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: all the songs of Renaissance, but not necessarily in order.

770
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: She like peppering in her hits in between the right,

771
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: but she made sure to hit every song on Renaissance,

772
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: and you know, gave you all the hits too. And

773
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: she did, like I said, like a thirty five song set,

774
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: and each song had its own choreography, its own video vinyard,

775
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: its own its own personality. Each song out that, like

776
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: thirty five song set, was its own unique experience with

777
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: so much care and so much craft put into it.

778
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: And you know, while watching Beyonce perform, like I said that,

779
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: this wasn't just a whole wow Beyonce, it's really good.

780
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: Like I knew she was fucking phenomenal. I knew she

781
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: was an all time great, but watching that, you just

782
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of have a moment like, Yo, we're watching history.

783
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: We are watching an artist and a performer of an

784
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: era that is perhaps a bygone era now and she

785
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: is still at her peak, you know what I mean.

786
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: Like this wasn't like some farewell shit. It was like,

787
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if there's another performer who's

788
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: gonna pick up the torch that that, you know when

789
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: Beyonce drops it, Like we've got plenty of big stars,

790
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: but we don't have like like Beyonce is of the

791
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: era of like the mono culture. She's like one of

792
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: the last breeds of that. Like everyone in fucking two

793
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: thousand and five, if you listen to music, you knew

794
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: who Beyonce was, right, you knew who Destiny's Child was,

795
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: you knew some of some of their songs. Like now,

796
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: of course we've got big names. We've got you know,

797
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: Drake and Taylor Swift who are selling out arenas and shit,

798
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: but it's like they're not ubiquitous, like you know, Beyonce

799
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: was right, like like I'm sure we all know Taylor Swift,

800
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: but how many of us can sing a Taylor Swift song?

801
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

802
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: Like, and it's it's you know, because the the the

803
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: the the way we consume entertainment, the way music is distributed,

804
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: it's changed, right, Like Beyonce came up in the era

805
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: where you just had radio, MTVBT, that's it, right, Like

806
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: if you're getting on TRL that was the pinnacle for

807
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: a pop star, right, Like that was our American band

808
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: stand for our generation. And you know, like I said,

809
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: it was kind of a monoculture things where where you know,

810
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: we got filtered all these stars to us. Whereas of now,

811
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, this is a great

812
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: thing for the artists. I think in this era where

813
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: you there's no gatekeepers, right, if you want to get

814
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: your music out there, get your ass on social media,

815
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: get your ass on SoundCloud, you can post your own

816
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: ship to Apple Music whatever.

817
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: Right.

818
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: So Beyonce is of that bygone era where you know,

819
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she was forced down our throats, but

820
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: you hadn't. There was no escaping her. Now you can't

821
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: escape any any star, you any music, any musician, any

822
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: artists you want, you can escape them.

823
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: Now.

824
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: Beyonce is of that era where where you know that

825
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: it wasn't.

826
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: Necessarily that easy, right And and like I said, she's

827
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: the only one who's kind of still saying it's like

828
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: her and Usher, And I think Usher is a distant second.

829
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 4: No disrespect to Usher, because he's.

830
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: Phenomenal, but he's still incredible phenomenal.

831
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, He's still incredible, And it's

832
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: just you know, like I said, just watching that you,

833
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, we are witnessing some something of

834
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: a bygone era who was still at the peak of

835
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: her game. She dropped in ninety eight, been doing this

836
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: shit for twenty five years. I feel like she's still right,

837
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: I feel, and I think she gave us the best

838
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: album of her career, you know, in year fucking twenty four,

839
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: year twenty three. So it was just like I said,

840
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: it was just a moment where I was you. It

841
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: fully hits you that you're witnessing history in real time.

842
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: And like I said, Bro, when were talking all the

843
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: time great performers, Bro, it's it's it's two names up there.

844
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: It's it's Mike and it's her, and then it's everybody else.

845
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you, that fucking show is amazing. I

846
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: hope we get a documentary out, and I'm sure we

847
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: probably will because that show is just unbelievable.

848
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine, Like I mean, you said she

849
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: was on stage for how long?

850
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: About two and a half hours.

851
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: I mean like.

852
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: Doing anything for that, like just standing there and singing, right,

853
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: Like if you go to the Dell concert, she just

854
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: stands there and like you know, puts her arm up

855
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 2: and sings her two and a half hours.

856
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 3: That's super impressive. It's gonna be after that from just

857
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: staying you know, man, yeah.

858
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: Starring Corey or you sit down and play the cello

859
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: for two and a half hours, but to do the

860
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: choreography and everything else, Like I don't even I can't

861
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: even wrap my head around that. Like she must burn

862
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: as many calories as Braun does it, Like seriously, she

863
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: must burn like two thousand calories, you know what I mean,

864
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: just up there, like that's crazy.

865
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: You know, It's like I said, I don't who. I

866
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: don't know who she's passing the tor so.

867
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: Who was going to be this grade of a performer,

868
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: this great of a vocalist, this greade of a dancer,

869
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: this greade of a visionary with with with her music videos,

870
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't see anybody in the wings bro, Like

871
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Speaker 1: like I said, you know, you know, like you mentioned,

872
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Adele can sell out arenas, Taylor Swift can sell out arenas,

873
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Drake can sell out arenas.

874
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: But they're not even trying to Yeah yeah that like

875
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: that they're not even like trying to do Like I

876
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: don't even think they're sort of comfortable and I like,

877
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: I like, I love nobody's.

878
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: Trying to do it.

879
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: She's not doing yeah exactly, like she's not trying to

880
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: shoot at the same target, you know what I mean,

881
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: She's in a different sport in the Olympics.

882
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 3: I think I mean Usher, Usher, like you said, USh

883
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: is probably still out here, you know, dance moves, all

884
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: that complete performance.

885
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: But truth be told, Usher ain't gave us a heater

886
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: since like Confessions, you know what I'm saying that desography

887
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: is lacking a bit.

888
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Speaker 3: I will say I did like the joint he had

889
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: with Thugger Free Thugger, you know what I'm saying. I

890
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: did like the joint he had. Uh, I forget the

891
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: name of the song, but that ship was fired in

892
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: me no limit. I think it was called was But yeah, yeah,

893
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: a parts full album. We ain't really tapped in like that.

894
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm just I think I don't know if

895
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: anybody is coming up dedicating themselves to the it's that

896
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: good at what they do, which is like you know, generational,

897
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: and then dedicating themselves to the craft that is the performing,

898
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, in the same way, It's

899
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: just you know, I just like there's there's nobody I

900
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: could see coming up this even it's attempting to to

901
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: to you know, to do anything similar to that. So

902
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, Bro, Yeah, she might be the last

903
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: of that of that kind for sure. All right, we

904
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: got any we got any other? Do you have any

905
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: other questions for Tyler John? No, brother, I think we're

906
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: good man.

907
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Speaker 2: Like without asking you to describe the video too much?

908
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: What was the best like performance piece? Like? What was

909
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: or what was the one that surprised you the most?

910
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: I will I'll say this without spoiling it too much

911
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: for the people who are who are going to see it.

912
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: If you love the ending.

913
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: Vocals on Virgels Groove as much as I do, you

914
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: are going to love what she does with that, I'll

915
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: leave it, okay, and I'll tell y'all when we stop recording.

916
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: So okay, all right, okay, So all right, that's all

917
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Speaker 2: the time we got for today. We'll be back on

918
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Speaker 2: Sunday the thirteenth with another episode. We'll talk to y'all well,

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,