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Speaker 2: Look at this now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: It's the thirteenth of September twenty twenty one. It's time,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, for Morning Combat. Hello everyone, my name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I am happy to be here. I'm

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Speaker 1: from CBS Sports and Showtime. I am Sans Gatto. But

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Speaker 1: the man to my well, I guess the right of

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Speaker 1: the screen, but to my left, he is not. He

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Speaker 1: is Cone Gatto. He is also the King of Connecticut

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Speaker 1: and wears the worst shirt's known to man. But I

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Speaker 1: love him just the same. It's my friend in yours.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell. What's up you see, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one is all about taking, you know, putting

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Speaker 2: the acts down, stop grinding, so to speak. Okay, Luke,

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Speaker 2: so try we're trying to do that here. That was

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Speaker 2: Zoe the Cat who made the quick appearance, but she's

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Speaker 2: a violent lover so that ended fast. But hey, great

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Speaker 2: to be back. It's Monday the thirteenth, which means your

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Speaker 2: favorite kind yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which means anything can happen, Luke.

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Speaker 2: So uh you know, as our producers will tell you,

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Speaker 2: we just barely made it to the start of this show,

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Speaker 2: all right. If there was chaos, I got loose push

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Speaker 2: could I could perish it any I'm like Habib right

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Speaker 2: before he submitted geigee right now, Luke, Okay, you know

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Speaker 1: On the razor's edge. Very quickly, before we get into

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Speaker 1: all the things we hawked to our audience to purchase

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Speaker 1: for us on our behalf, how was your weekend? Very quickly?

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Speaker 2: It was. It was very nice, Luke, Thank you, thank

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Speaker 2: you very good. Weather tremendous, a little bit of fall

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Speaker 1: Luke. Well, I have to tell you that my wife

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Speaker 1: I don't think I caught the COVID, but I caught

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Speaker 1: kind of disease. That wasn't very money. So don't do

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Speaker 1: so welcome to the show. We have a lot to

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Speaker 1: There were multiple reports, including a big feature from Business

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Speaker 1: Insider that had said that they had inflated to a

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Speaker 1: gross extent the amount of users that they have, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, I've got the report up right here, b

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Speaker 1: see if i may. Let's see, and what they had

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Speaker 1: said was that they had thirteen fitnesses back a few

435
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Speaker 1: years ago, but they had thirteen million monthly active users

436
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Speaker 1: and sixty million app downloads. The Business Insider story talked

437
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Speaker 1: to six former employees and found out they only had

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Speaker 1: two million monthly active users and just four hundred and

439
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Speaker 1: forty eight thousand monthly active on Android. Altogether, they had

440
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Speaker 1: between one and to two point five million in that

441
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Speaker 1: range relative what they were saying like they had again allegedly,

442
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Speaker 1: according to the report exaggerated, they had been hit by

443
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Speaker 1: another analytics firm. I also have that up here, third

444
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Speaker 1: party mobile analytics app Topia estimated Trailer had only fifty

445
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Speaker 1: two million lifetime installs, short of the two hundred and

446
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Speaker 1: fifty million that they had tried to sell to the public.

447
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: At least tell them about it. Listen, folks, you can

448
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: like this old man fighting. Although to me, what Saturday

449
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: sort of shows is that to get any kind of

450
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Speaker 1: product out the door, there has to be slide of hand,

451
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Speaker 1: and they got to cut corners. That's just the reality.

452
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Speaker 1: They're not going to get a lot of commissions to

453
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Speaker 1: sign on. They're not goett a lot of fighters to

454
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Speaker 1: do this. They have to change the rules up. It's

455
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Speaker 1: a total mess. But more importantly, I don't know the

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Speaker 1: entirety of what the truth is. Neither BC nor I

457
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: are omni competent. But between what happened on Saturday and

458
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: then you go back to them having these multiple reports

459
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Speaker 1: about them grossly exaggerating how well their app had done,

460
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 1: it's a basic question, BC, why on earth would you

461
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Speaker 1: believe them? Why what have they done to make you think?

462
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: What have they said and then backed up in a

463
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Speaker 1: way to make you think that this is all above

464
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Speaker 1: board and that our concerns are alarmed. I just don't

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Speaker 1: see it. They have last thing on this. I'll pitch

466
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Speaker 1: your rab back to your last thing BC. My answer

467
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: to the question is, here's what they've done. I think

468
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Speaker 1: that they had created at least one fun event, the

469
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Speaker 1: first one, and I do think that what they were

470
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Speaker 1: doing around was that they kind of showed that to me. Listen,

471
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Speaker 1: these guys, these bigger names in the boxing, they need

472
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Speaker 1: to get together. There is something missing that this hole

473
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Speaker 1: is filling. But they have gone so far down that

474
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Speaker 1: rabbit hole they have gotten lost and they're trying to

475
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Speaker 1: bring us with him. Caution you not to do that.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best way to say it. They went

477
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Speaker 2: way too far. There were elements that they've done along

478
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Speaker 2: the way that were either refreshing or interesting, like let's

479
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 2: not lie. The first broadcast that you mentioned from the

480
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Speaker 2: Joyous Ways in which Mike Tyson came out and kind

481
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Speaker 2: of repaired some of the demons in his own past

482
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Speaker 2: by getting in great shape and kind of winning an

483
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Speaker 2: exhibition that was I know was a draw. There's a

484
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Speaker 2: lot of shenanigans there, but that mixed with the announcing

485
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Speaker 2: that night with more Ronalo and israel Oata Sonia and

486
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg, that was a home run. That was like, hey, look,

487
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 2: we're doing something a little bit weird, a little bit different,

488
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Speaker 2: and I think it bled into parts of that Jake

489
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Speaker 2: Paul second card, Luke, where you had the skits with

490
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Speaker 2: Pete Davidson. You had some things, but that night, as

491
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Speaker 2: we talked about ad nauseam, I thought it went way

492
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: too far to the point where you're just shitting on

493
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Speaker 2: real boxing. And again, if you're gonna have a show

494
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: that's anything butt real boxing, then be anything butt real boxing.

495
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Speaker 2: Have fifty cent and Snoop and Pete Davidson as your announcers.

496
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, don't bring in like you know, they ran

497
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Speaker 2: a little snippet on Saturday Night of some of their

498
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: greatest moments and they got Pete Davidson blown weed smoke

499
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: in Al Bernstein's face, and I'm just like, oh man,

500
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: like poor Al, and I'm starting to be like poor

501
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: Sean Porter, poor Ray. Laura is like, I mean, I

502
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: don't damn anybody to cash a check in this business, Luke,

503
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: okay at all, but I feel like they have gone

504
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: too far. They had some good ideas or little good

505
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: moments that maybe they could have expanded up on. And

506
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: you know, you can always argue, Luke that when you

507
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: bring in fresh artists musically who are hip. It does

508
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: have a chance to bring in a different audience with

509
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: the main product you're trying to show. But they've they've

510
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: gone way too far in every category to where they're

511
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: turning off hardcore fans. I think they got to be

512
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: turning off casual fans too. You want to put up

513
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: a fun old guy fight with a rap battle, maybe

514
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: that's your lane, but you got to stay out of

515
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 2: the real boxing lane, which is throwing a shit ton

516
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: of money at Tao Fi Malpez Junior and then laughably

517
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: almost being unable to put this card on, and then

518
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: the egregious stuff with the super old guy fights. Look

519
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: at the very least as long as this bubble's gonna last,

520
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: and I feel again Saturday Night was another major hit

521
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: to the overall bubble. I think there's an opening here

522
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: if they want to stay with it, if they say, okay,

523
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: let's cut the shit, but we want to put together

524
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: capable retired boxing and MC's martial arts fighters that still

525
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: want to fight that we believe can go in there

526
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Speaker 2: say and kind of just let their hands go for

527
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: a round and a half and see which one falls. Fine,

528
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 2: I thought Emerson Silvatino, which I think we're gonna get into,

529
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Speaker 2: you know what, was fun instead of trying to bring

530
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Speaker 2: in a Paul Brother. I kind of want to see

531
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva against Vitor Bellfort in boxing. Is it a

532
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: little bit of a shit show? Yes, But like if

533
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: you want to stay in that lane like trying to

534
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: get Mike Tyson in one more fight with somebody where

535
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: it's kind of competitive and safe and fun, that's fine.

536
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: But you can't be everything all at once because then

537
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: you're a complete shit show. So their impact has been

538
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: a disruptor. Yes, buying that person bid for Teto Femo,

539
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: big disruption point, but unable to build on it. And Luke,

540
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: we make jokes every week, but you know, when's the

541
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: thirty for thirty coming on? Where's this money coming from?

542
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: Because who is that, you know, drunk stone guy who

543
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: stumbled into the ring and interrupted Everybody's like, no, I'll

544
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: raise it to thirty million, Like that's not a good

545
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: look at all, Luke. So I think they got to

546
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Speaker 2: figure out who they really are and what they're trying

547
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Speaker 2: to do if they want to be completely entertainment and

548
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: nothing less than be that. But I'm done I'm done here, Luke.

549
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Can we move on? I'm done?

550
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing I want to say on this then

551
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Speaker 1: we I'm happy to go talk about Anderson Silva, which

552
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: is a very very bright spot on this card. Last

553
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: thing I'll say is, you know, you hear the way

554
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: that this is all marketed and it's sort of unique

555
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: to Trailer. It's less about the boxing event, which is

556
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: that they want to do boxing and music culture and

557
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: internet culture and you know, influencer culture. The sort of

558
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: melding of all of these different cultural forces all in one. Dude.

559
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: That's I mean, it doesn't work number one and number

560
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: two like it's just limp biscuit two point zero. You know. Oh,

561
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little bit of rap, a lot

562
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: of teen ages and a lot of a little bit

563
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: of rap rock, and we're gonna put it together and

564
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: this will be a thing that people think is really

565
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: hot and break shit. It's gonna burn the fuck out, Luke.

566
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: We're gonna break shit. That's what we're gonna do.

567
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: It's really what it is, and it's really I don't

568
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: think they're gonna break boxing, certainly. I don't know where

569
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I suggesting you said that, but I just mean, like,

570
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: I know, it's a song reference. I'm just saying, you see,

571
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Speaker 1: Like for me, it's like, dude, this whole thing is

572
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of incoherent. There are a couple of bright spots

573
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: here or and they just never really follow up on them.

574
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: So let's not do what Triller does, and let's follow

575
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: up on the good spot. Let's go to number three.

576
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: If we can't hear b C. Anderson Silva, I mean,

577
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: what do you say about this guy? We all knew

578
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: he was gonna win. That part is not in any

579
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: way remarkable by itself. However, the way in which he

580
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: won and the ease with which this part of his

581
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: career is coming to him tells me that there is

582
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: something big on the horizon for him. Number one and

583
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: number two, Dude, nobody is shining in the post UFC.

584
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm in my mid forties. I don't know where to

585
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: go BKFC Belat or or whatever that I'm gonna do

586
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: than Anderson Silva. B C. Let me ask you, a

587
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: what did you make of the win? Given that we

588
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: knew he was probably gonna win relatively easily and be

589
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: more importantly, how how far can this go?

590
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: I think this made him the new face of this

591
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: of whatever's left of this bubble, meaning the competitive part

592
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: of this bubble. Right, Like, say what you will about

593
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: Jake Paul, but he was in competitive fights and getting

594
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: knockouts and climbing the ladder and we're sort of like, Okay,

595
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: we want to see how far you can take this

596
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: in that silo, not the Evander silo. Anderson just just

597
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: jumped in front of everybody, Luke because he has the

598
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: legitimate combat background, but because his skills have translated so

599
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: perfectly to boxing where his footwork is legit. We all

600
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: knew if this fight went more than you know, longer

601
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: than it did, he's gonna mop up on Teto. Tito

602
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: doesn't have hands, you know, he's washed. It is what

603
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: it is. But for him to take it next level

604
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: like he did, Luke, lure Tito into the corner and

605
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: then leap in with sort of a check hook and

606
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: complete I mean, it was spectacular. It was another like

607
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: the Chavez decision, when moment where we just bowed down

608
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: to the legend talk about being able to repair the

609
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: ending of a UFC career that you know had some

610
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: dark moments with the drug testing and the injuries in

611
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: the in the consecutive losses. I think he's repairing a

612
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: lot of that. But Luke, he's very viable, not just

613
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: not just competition wise in this space, but I think commercially,

614
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get and will deserve a end

615
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: of the road pot of gold payday here. And you

616
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: know what, Luke, when we talked about coming into this fight,

617
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: he may not want to do too good because he

618
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: may scare the Paul brothers away. I am more interested

619
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: than anything if I have any interest left in this bubble.

620
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: And I know Jake Paul's gonna be on Aerial Show

621
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: today to see will the Paul brothers react to this.

622
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Will they have a legitimate interest in this way, because

623
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: I think what we've seen so far, Anderson could have

624
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: his way with both of those guys. Yet that could

625
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: be a very big fight because there's gonna be legitimate

626
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: competition in there. I mean, Jake could come out and

627
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: want Tommy Fury next, and you know there's some fun

628
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: elements to that and that could be built up and

629
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: maybe you and I will be a part of that.

630
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: But I want to see Anderson Silva now if he

631
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: wants to keep doing this in a legitimately tough fight

632
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: in boxing. Could that be VT or bellfot No, one's

633
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: talking about that for some reason. In fact, everybody's calling

634
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: out Jake and Canelo for crap's sake, that might be that.

635
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: But if not, Duke, would you like the pull either

636
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: of the Paul brothers' chances against Anderson because that might

637
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: be the real fight to make if you want to

638
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: find out how good these guys actually really are.

639
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: No, I think that's a terrible fight for both of them.

640
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, Jake might find ways at times to

641
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you know, slow the fight down a little bit,

642
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: wrap up, not get too damaged, you know. I think

643
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: there's a way for that to maybe go on for

644
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: a little while. But skill for skill, No, I don't

645
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: think either of them would have much of a chance,

646
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: although depending on one's perspective, that might be the perfect

647
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: reason to make the fight. I guess we'll see. I'm

648
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: with you too, I'm like yo. You know that Vitor

649
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: and Anderson when they fought the first time, it wasn't

650
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: in Brazil, but in Brazil when Brazil was watching, that

651
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: was a huge moment for MMA. Down there. There was

652
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: a ton of Brazilians as I understand in the audience

653
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: on Florida, there's a lot of them in Florida. Florida still,

654
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, is a place where you can stage a

655
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: lot of fights because the people who run the regulatory

656
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: agencies there are you know what do you want to

657
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: call them absentee landlords. But the point being is this,

658
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of options there for that. But

659
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: let me just say, like, what is it about what

660
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Anderson is doing that is just so great. It's not

661
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: that he's winning again, although that's nice, dude. When Anderson

662
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Silva was in his prime and you and I lived

663
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: through that, and of course he's not fighting the same guys,

664
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: not even close. But when he was in his prime,

665
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: what made him special was moments of magic. That's what

666
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: it meant. And in the case of Caesar Chavez, it

667
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: was this moment that you knew he was gonna win.

668
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't any round per se or knockdown or anthing

669
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: like that was just one of the accumulative effect of

670
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: what he was able to do when he was kind

671
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: of forgotten by a lot of people, and against Tito,

672
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: that was just that was just Anderson, dude. That was like,

673
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: that's what that is one of Anderson Silva's quickest knockouts

674
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: on par with like Chris Leeb And I'm not saying

675
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Tito represents that. I'm just saying, like the ease and

676
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: the speed with which he was able to just dispatch

677
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: a terribly overmatched opponent, that's Anderson's Silva magic. That is

678
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: what we all inhaled. That is what we lived through,

679
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: that is what we live on as fans for all

680
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: that many years or people and kind of we're both

681
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: in many of the same cases. Dude, he's bringing that back,

682
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: and he's bringing it back in a way where you're like, wow, man,

683
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Like Okay, we know, we know for a fact based

684
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: on the end of that UFC run, he cannot beat

685
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: top guys. It's not possible. It's not in the cards,

686
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: forget about it. But are there other people and in

687
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 1: relatively interesting fights and in ways that can bring back safely,

688
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: of course, all all things being equal, in ways that

689
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: they can be in combat sports. Can he bring back

690
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva magic once more? Dude? You have every reason

691
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: to believe that he could. Obviously, the devils are in

692
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: the details. But this is what makes this moment in

693
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: his career so great. It's a reminder of all of

694
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: those moments that everyone enjoyed that made us realize this

695
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: guy might be the best we've ever seen. He's not

696
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: the best we've ever seen right now, but he is

697
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: something still very special, and I am so glad that

698
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: he's had a chance to be on this kind of platform.

699
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: But to answer that question on the screen of how

700
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: far should he go? I don't think he should go

701
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: to real boxing. Like, you know, he kind of pulled

702
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: a fast one, getting up perfectly washed and uninterested, Julio says,

703
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: our Chavez Junior and then beating him right and like,

704
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: but we're not talking about him going to reel boxing.

705
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying in this silo, he's the player right now,

706
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: He's the guy. He's the boss at the end of

707
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: the video game. So, Luke, I got a couple of quick,

708
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: rapid fire questions to wrap this up that I want

709
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: you to answer for me. Can Triller The quickest thing

710
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: they can do to repair the reputation right now after

711
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: this past weekend, is it to grab Anderson, vitur Jds,

712
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: any one of these guys with names who are no

713
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 2: longer with the UFC and just focus on putting them

714
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: in competitive bouts. Is that the best way to go

715
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: to save this thing?

716
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, the answer I think in the

717
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: short run is yes, but I don't think this is

718
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: long term salvageable. Like their their business model can't scale

719
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: and so as a consequence you see them cutting corners

720
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: in the way that they are. I do think it

721
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: would repair a lot of the damage from Saturday, but

722
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: ultimately it makes no difference in the long.

723
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: Okay, number two, After what we saw with Vitor for

724
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: that ninety seconds whatever, Oscar dela Hoya would have gotten

725
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: hurt on Saturday. And I know Vitor's manager trainer came

726
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: out and said, we believe Oscar's faking. We believe he

727
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: went to the hospital and filmed a fake video. I mean,

728
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: come on, I don't know about that, but are you

729
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: with me? Oscar, who never fought above one sixty and

730
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: really wasn't effective at one sixty going up against one

731
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: eighty five jacked up Vitor. This could have been a

732
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: bad night for him.

733
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: Luke, it's you know what. I had put that out

734
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: of my mind, and I'll say this about the phony video.

735
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: My wife had to go to the er this past week.

736
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: She's fine. Her Tono got completely ripped off. There was

737
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: blood everywhere.

738
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: It was a whole thing.

739
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a show. She's fine. It was No,

740
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. But the big deal was

741
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: this was like a Monday or Tuesday. I no, it

742
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: was Tuesday because it was a day after Labor Day weekend,

743
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: and we had to go three different ers because they

744
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: were all filled. I don't know how d la Hoya

745
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: sneaks into a hospital, puts on the gown and he's like,

746
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, kind of agonizing over there over video. I

747
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: tend to think he probably had COVID. He probably had

748
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: a pretty bad that being said, that's a good point

749
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: you make. I don't know. I don't know the problem was.

750
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: You know, V tour knew what was the problem at

751
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: forty two when he fought Larry Donald holy Field. He

752
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: didn't throw back. There was just no volume, dude. They

753
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: had to know that he was not going to throw back.

754
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: So if you just blitz him in the way that

755
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: you did, he was gonna get overwhelmed. Would the same

756
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: thing work on de la Hoya BC. We don't know,

757
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: he's forty but seven or something.

758
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's done a lot of bad things to

759
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: his body over the past twenty years. Luke, he's an

760
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: old forty seven you'd have to guess.

761
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he's definitely not as washed as holy Field, right,

762
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: you agree with that.

763
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: It would have I don't know, it would have been interesting.

764
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm just think Oscar may have dodge a bull. And

765
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: finally closing, because the Trump thing was a big thing,

766
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: and I did watch more than half of the commentary,

767
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: so I just want to say this to people. I

768
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: think it was a really bad look to do a

769
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: well to do this on nine to eleven. First of all,

770
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: to do a nine to eleven tribute again like you mentioned,

771
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 2: which has a lady who need to be dragged out screaming,

772
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: which obviously isn't Troller's fault, but to then throw a

773
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: live microphone over the whole arena to Trump. I don't

774
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: know if that's the best look, but I will say this, Luke,

775
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: and it's maybe not Maybe shouldn't be a surprise because

776
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: before being president, Donald Trump was a you know, a

777
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: celebrity who knew how to talk. I watched the crap

778
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: out of the Celebrity Apprentice for years and was entertained.

779
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad, Luke. I'm gonna give you know,

780
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a positive there. Todd Grisham did his

781
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: best to keep the show moving, and I actually thought

782
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: once Junior do Santo's got in the booth, him and

783
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: Don Senior kind of had a good rapport. And it

784
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: was a lot of like nineties boxing history, a lot

785
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: of incorrect facts. But uh, I didn't hate it, Luke.

786
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: It was a shit show full with a lot of shit.

787
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the Trumps at all,

788
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: but it was interesting at best. I'll say it wasn't

789
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: a monster failure.

790
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see. I mean, listen, anything Trump

791
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: does is just gonna be so polarizing, right, You're gonna

792
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: get all of the supports you tell you it's the

793
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: gracings and sliced bread, and you're gonna get all of

794
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: his detractors who say that, you know, he's one step

795
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: away from being Orangutang. I didn't hear it. I take

796
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: your word for it. You have usually a good judge

797
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: of these things. If you liked it, there probably was

798
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: some value to it, you know, for the right kind

799
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: of person, there's a good opportunity there. And by the way,

800
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I will say this, you know, I'm not one of

801
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: these guys who tries to you work in combat sports,

802
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: everyone is morally complicit in some kind of way. I

803
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: mean for us to be like, oh, everyone who took

804
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: a check from Triller is a bad person, I don't

805
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: think everyone who took a check from Triller is a

806
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: bad person. And in fact, to that end, I think

807
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: to Grisham is just a great guy. And if you

808
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: say he did a good job, then I have every

809
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: reason to believe you. You know, I'll put it that way.

810
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: So last thing on this story andreson Silva. If it's

811
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: not Jake Paul and it's not Vitor belfor do we

812
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: have any idea who the hell else it could be?

813
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: And if it's not Logan Paul, I don't know. I

814
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: don't know his contract situation with Triller, because if I'm

815
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: looking to make the biggest fight Luke again, I'm taking

816
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: a Paul brother putting against him, you know, on showtime

817
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: pay per view. I'm not sure.

818
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot, but it's has a lot that you

819
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: didn't answer MMA in any way, like he seems just

820
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: done with MMA, completely done well, look.

821
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: At that post fight interview was weird, and the the

822
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: announcer I forgot her name, she made it seem like

823
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: he kind of said he was going to retire. I

824
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: think he just didn't understand the question spoken broken English.

825
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a payday out there for him.

826
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna end up being Vitur right, because I

827
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: don't think the Paul brothers are gonna bite on this.

828
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: I'd be surprised. I'd liked, I'd like, I'd like if

829
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: they would. But if not, You've got a hungry and

830
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: willing Vitur there, and you throw those guys a couple

831
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: million each, Luke, that's a that's a good payday. They

832
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: already fought each other, they're not afraid of each other.

833
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: This is a boxing match. I don't know if it

834
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: sells a ton, but it would be interesting.

835
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say is, you could do those

836
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: Paul brother fights. You could do them. You could do them.

837
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: And again, if it's Jake Paul, I think there are

838
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: ways he could slow the fight down, tie up, you know,

839
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: extend it longer than just being what Tito did. Tito,

840
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give her credits to Tito. Dude, Tito

841
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: went after him and that wasn't able for obvious reasons.

842
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: But Tino didn't try and slow the shit down. He

843
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: didn't run. He got right in Anderson Silva's face and

844
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: he paid for it. But he came to he came

845
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: to compete for at least well, I mean, you can

846
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: argue with the strategy. But he didn't. He didn't. He

847
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: showed courage.

848
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: He showed called out logan Paul after and said I

849
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: lost my last fight, you lost your last fight. Let's

850
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: fight each other. Oh look, poor old Tito. He got

851
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: in great shape. By the way, he missed weight by

852
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: five pounds. They didn't mention it once on that way

853
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: in bro.

854
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: Why would you who? I mean, you think anyone at

855
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: Trailler gives a fuck that he missed weight.

856
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's wash ourselves clean and move. Is there

857
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: any other real sports to talk about.

858
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: Louke, Yeah, there actually is, all right, So, first of all,

859
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: we have fights coming up this weekend. We'll get to

860
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: in just a second. This is the other part, because

861
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: you had a tweet that I retweeted. I think it

862
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: was Saturday night. It was after Triller, but it was

863
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: in reference to larger events, not just what happened on Saturday,

864
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: what happened on Friday. So we've been covering this story.

865
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. MMA fans are like, where's the MMA coming.

866
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of MMA talk about over the weekend.

867
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: There was a lot of boxing. I would hope people

868
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: understand that. Plus, this story is very interesting. We all

869
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: knew that Oscar Valdez was going to compete against Hobson

870
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: Conse Sao on Friday night on Top Rank on ESPN Plus.

871
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: It was a fight that had been booked for a while,

872
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: but what had happened was in the week or two

873
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: leading up to it. As you may recall, Head tested

874
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: positive for fencher mean, which was banned under the voluntary

875
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: system he had been using for anti doping. But according

876
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: to WBC and the larger sanctioning bodies and the commissions,

877
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: they didn't really more or less care about it. They

878
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: didn't think that it was a relevant thing they had

879
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: to worry about for a lot of different reasons. So

880
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: there's this complicated scenario. But still he goes into this

881
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: bout BC under this cloud of suspicion. He beats Conse

882
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: sal But here's what happens. First six rounds he was

883
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: behind or at least you know, the first four or five,

884
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: and then the tide begins to turn, and then he

885
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: kind of puts it on Conse Sal late. And there's

886
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: also a weird situation where Consee Sau gets a point

887
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: deductor but round nine or ten for a rabbit punch

888
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: that looked the lightest rabbit punch you've ever seen. And

889
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: then Valdez hits Consei Sal with a rabbit punch. It

890
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: looks kind of hard and there's no warning or whatever.

891
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: Either way doesn't matter. He wins. So the first question

892
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: I have to ask you is do you think the

893
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: pressure got to him? It seemed to me absolutely, whatever

894
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: his denial, he was wearing the weight of the world

895
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: in the early part of that bout.

896
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And this this there was gonna it was.

897
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: It was gonna be hard for him to come out

898
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: there and put on the best performance ever. You can't

899
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: discount the stress he did endure. Luke. If he's completely

900
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: clean and this is all a you know, misunderstanding slash

901
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: not a big deal, which I disagree with, then obviously

902
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: that's double the the pressure on him mentally. And and

903
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: you know in the stress that that caused. Also, he's

904
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: in there against a taller, longer opponent, an Olympic gold

905
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: medalist who you know, beat him in the amateurs, who

906
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: had the best performance of his career. Actually through six rounds,

907
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: look through six rounds, Conceesa looked like a mixture of

908
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: like Muhammad Ali and Ghirmo Riggandau. I mean, he was

909
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: just like so accurate, and he's he's putting a little

910
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: sizzle on the end of every punch that he lands

911
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: just to kind of sell it. But overall, Luke I said,

912
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: my tweet was this was this was really a rough

913
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: weekend for boxing. This whole thing. I mean, Saturday was

914
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: a shit show, but it was a different variety of

915
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: shit what happened on Friday. Like, it's really hard to

916
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: digest this. Okay, let's give the few pluses. Okay, here

917
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: one a plus from Valdez to adjusting and changing his

918
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: game plan and coming on late and having a chance

919
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: to win that fight. Yeah, I'll give him credit, Luke.

920
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: Not a solid performance, not great, but he did what

921
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: he had to do in a rough situation. They sold

922
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: a sellout crowd there of like fifty five hundred this

923
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: was his homecoming to his you know, adopted hometown there

924
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: of Tucson. And I also want to shout out the

925
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: ESPN broadcast for not only not avoiding the drug talk situation,

926
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: but almost coming at both of the w and Oscar Valdez,

927
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: including Tim Bradley, who, as we praised the other day,

928
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: I mean, he had nothing holding him back and I

929
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: love and respect that shout out to uh. Also, Bernardo

930
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: was sooner for filling in for Joe tests and holding

931
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: that broadcast down in that regard.

932
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: And also, just to interject very quickly, I'll give it

933
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: right back the guy who did the ring interviews with

934
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: the older gentleman with the beard dude, he asked questions

935
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: to Valdez right to his face about this stuff and

936
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: they didn't hide from it at all. He deserves credit

937
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: as well.

938
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: So that's that's up front again, very good. But overall,

939
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: Luke like this is another one of those kick to

940
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: the balls of boxing. Should this fight have gone on,

941
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: we argued, no, then you get into that fight. As

942
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: you mentioned, conce Style's point that was taken away with

943
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: no fricking warning was a two taps to the back

944
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: of the head off the break as the ref is

945
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: breaking them apart. He tapped Valdez on the back twice

946
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: and then tapped him in the back of the head.

947
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: Should he have been warned, Yes, you don't have a

948
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: round with rabbit punches. You don't hit on the brake.

949
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: But he's tapping. Ref takes away a point. And to

950
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: your point, Valdez wound up and landed a full flush

951
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: right hand to the back of the head and got

952
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: a soft warning for it. So you're already dealing in

953
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: a fighter's hometown in a fight that maybe shouldn't have

954
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: went on. And then the reason why I can saysau

955
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: doesn't have a big argument to complain about the scorecards

956
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: is because he faded in the second half. He faded

957
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: pretty badly. He was doing way too much running and celebrating.

958
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: Then he was fighting, and again Valdez made the move.

959
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: But Luke I watched this fight a second time to

960
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 2: score it closer and also to write down the potential

961
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: swing rounds to really get a feel of what the

962
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: score should have been. You know what I settled upon.

963
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: My final score is a draw six rounds to six,

964
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: But because of the crap point being taken away, it

965
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: would have been a Valdez win or I'm completely fine

966
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: with Valdez seven rounds to five, which is one fifteen,

967
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: one to twelve with the point deduction. Yeah, Valdez won

968
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: two cards seven to five. And then, of course, because

969
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: this is boxing, a complete mailed in hometown scorecard of

970
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: nine rounds to three. So if you can say saw

971
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: Luke again, there's things to criticize about how he was

972
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: a superstar in the first six rounds and then you know,

973
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: less than average in the second half. But this is

974
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: the biggest fight of his life, and the kid went

975
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: for it. He had no chance. He had no chance

976
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: under the setup, under the rules, State commissioned WBC, all

977
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: that bullshit. When you add all of that up, man,

978
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: and then you add on Saturday night, we can't get

979
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: it right in this sport. You don't have to tell

980
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: me the sins of boxing. I'm part of the family.

981
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: No one knows it more than me, But like I

982
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: can't avoid being upset about it every single time. And

983
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: you know what this also clouded Luke. This was a

984
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: pretty fun fight. It was a chess match. Valdez made adjustments,

985
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: he came back, Can says I was putting it on

986
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: him in the first half. In fact, the final company

987
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: box stats, which don't always tell the full story, can

988
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: says I out landed him by like forty or fifty punches.

989
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: Did he deserve to lose if you were watching closely again,

990
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: it could be seven five? Ol. He came on good

991
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: in the second half. But there's too many bad parts

992
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: about this broadcast not to shit on it. And if

993
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: I can put one more drawlit of poop there, Luke.

994
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: The trainer and manager Eddie Renoso, who also of course

995
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: runs Team Canelo, refused to do any media, including with

996
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: ESPN cameras, the entire fight week. So I'm glad that

997
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: when they cut to the corner audio after round one,

998
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: so Bernardo sooner'll put it in there and put his

999
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: finger in the sore a little bit and said, and

1000
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 2: here's the first time we'll hear from Eddie Renoso all week.

1001
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: That's bullshit. Stand up and take accountability and get in

1002
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: front of the microphone. I do nothing on the show

1003
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: but praise Team Canelo because Eddie's an incredible trainer and

1004
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: Canelo is doing mostly all things right here in boxing. Luke,

1005
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: this Friday night was it was tough to take and

1006
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: then you had that comin event where the kids trainer.

1007
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Let me get to that, because that was the one

1008
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: that bothered me. It was the whole night. And also

1009
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: I asked you, like, do you think Valdez was feeling it?

1010
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: There's no doubt he was feeling it because Canelo was

1011
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: there in attendance to provide all kinds of moral support,

1012
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: yelling at him. I mean, obviously they're stable mates and

1013
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: friends or whatever, but you know, he showed up in

1014
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: a very public, prominent way to put his hand, so

1015
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: to speak, on the back of Oscar val Daz. But

1016
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: you noted it. There was a fight between Flores and

1017
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: Flora's junior and Lopez, I forget their first names. It

1018
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: was that comin event. It was a ten rounder, and

1019
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: basically what she found was that Lopez was getting the

1020
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: better of the younger kid in Flora's Junior, but Flores Junior,

1021
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: his cornerman was his dad, and he was getting tuned

1022
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: like a guitar. Okay, to the point where after the

1023
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: ninth round, even before that, they were just saying, we're

1024
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: gonna pull it, We're gonna pull it. You gotta show

1025
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: me something, show me something, And he was sort of

1026
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: stood on his feet and said, I'm gonna keep going.

1027
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: They absolutely should have called the fight there. Timothy Bradley

1028
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: was incensed the referee didn't step in either. And then

1029
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: here is the really tragic part about it. Flores Junior,

1030
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: as you could well imagine, like, goes out like a

1031
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: man that he is, even though he's a young man,

1032
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: takes another savage beating, although Lopez took a little bit

1033
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: off the gas in the tenth round, but it was

1034
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: bad enough. Or with about ten seconds left Flora's Junior's corner,

1035
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: his dad throws the towel. Okay, well you wait till

1036
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: there's ten seconds, but at least something. But he don't

1037
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: do it where the referee can even see it, So

1038
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: the referee doesn't see it, and the beating just goes

1039
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: the final to the bell. It was a fucking mess.

1040
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: The whole thing was a mess, and I don't blame

1041
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: the referee per se, although he should have stopped the fight,

1042
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: I do believe that, but I don't blame him per

1043
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: se for not seeing the towel. He was sort of

1044
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: focused on the sky getting beaten. But dude, this was

1045
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: not boxing at its best. And I should point out

1046
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: that as much as we kill Triller on the show

1047
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: for all their missteps, BC, even the people who claim

1048
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: to get it right, to do it the right way,

1049
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a show with actual referees and young fighters,

1050
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a you know, in shape and

1051
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: proper way ins and blah blah blah. Even they allowed

1052
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: this sort of situation to take place, both in the

1053
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: co main event where the officiating that was terrible, the

1054
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: corner advice failed the young man, and then in the

1055
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: main event, should the fight have even happened, it took place.

1056
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: As you pointed out, one of the judges absolutely mailed

1057
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: it in Conte sud never had a shot. The people

1058
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: who claim to do boxing the right way, they also

1059
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: don't do the right way. Not the same as Triller,

1060
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: But to be all high and mighty, if you're in

1061
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: that camp, they should have a long look in the

1062
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: mirror too.

1063
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: And look, if you're one of our many MMA fans

1064
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: who hate when we talk about anything boxing or Paul Brothers,

1065
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, guys, you're almost an hour into

1066
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 2: the show, I haven't heard a second of MMA talk.

1067
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: I get it when we spend this one's time essentially

1068
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: shitting on boxing. Now, you know again, I know the

1069
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: sins of this sport, but I can also come out

1070
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: and be Paully Melanauji after the Wandiaz fight and say, quote,

1071
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: boxing is full of shit. I still love this sport.

1072
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of my favorite quotes ever, because

1073
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: this stuff happens. It's just there's a lot of stuff happening.

1074
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: We got commission problems, too many belts judging, refereeing everything. Again,

1075
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: shout out to ESPN at least for Mark Kriegel for

1076
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: getting in there and asking questions to the fighter Gabriel

1077
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: Forrest Junior that you mentioned putting his dad on the spot,

1078
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: although his dad basically blamed his son for not listening

1079
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: to him. But Luke, you're not gonna see fifty one

1080
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: minutes of MK opening with boxing anymore if it's gonna

1081
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: keep going this direction. This's been a really bad year

1082
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: for the sport, mostly due to so many good schedule

1083
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: fights falling apart. But when you mix it with all

1084
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: the other bullshit and the fighters not willing to fight

1085
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: each other at the highest level in certain instances, you know,

1086
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be here to write the I'm not

1087
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: gonna be like that La Times columnist, you know, like

1088
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: guy Luke who every two months he writes Boxing's dead,

1089
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: right every two months, right, Not gonna be that guy.

1090
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, like, you gotta get our shit

1091
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: together all collectively here, this is this is this is

1092
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: not good. It's not good.

1093
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: With that in mind, let's close the book on boxing

1094
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: for the day, BC. But we still have a topic

1095
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: to get to, which is what are your favorite fights

1096
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend? It could be boxing if you want,

1097
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: but there are some MMA fights this weekend that are

1098
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: worth paying attention to, and as the week progresses, we

1099
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: will lean into them. First and foremost Friday Night on

1100
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Showtime on Bellator, Joel Romero is supposed to be here,

1101
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: the Cuban Muscle Crisis taken on Phil Davis. There's auto

1102
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: fights that are pretty good on that card. And then

1103
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: also BC, you have the UFC card that's gonna have

1104
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith taking on Ryan's Span. I'll give you the floor.

1105
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: First fight you're looking forward to most this weekend.

1106
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it's it's not a great weekend for fight.

1107
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Boxing's pretty much dead, and maybe that's a good thing.

1108
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: Coming off of this weekend, and as you mentioned, they're

1109
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: outside of that main event of the Bellator card. I mean,

1110
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: I know you love yourself some Anthony Smith, and I'm

1111
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: not going to try to make you get off of

1112
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: the things you love, luc So maybe I'll leave that

1113
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: fight for you. But that ain't a main event where

1114
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: I come from. I am, though, very interested in seeing

1115
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: this year all Ramero fight, so I'll take the fattest

1116
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: apple hanging low off the tree here. Of course, we

1117
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: want to see Romero against Rumbull. This is a big

1118
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: signing for bellatour the eye injury delayed that there's a

1119
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: lot of questions right here with not only Romero moving

1120
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: up in wait, but the time off the age is

1121
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: always going to be a question in terms of when

1122
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 2: will he stop being this freak superhero alien and actually

1123
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: be a forty four year old guy. Right well, I

1124
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: don't know, I think though, Luke, what's most interesting about

1125
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: this is Phil Davis's Nobody's walkover. Even though he's in

1126
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: his late thirties, he is still as tough of now,

1127
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: a technical striker who can wrestle you that this is

1128
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: going to be a great test of what's left in

1129
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: the tank for you all, because if there's a good

1130
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: amount left Louke, there are big, spectacular, fun fights you

1131
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: can make under the Belltour banner that I hope we

1132
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: do with Yoel Across really, to be honest, a couple

1133
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: of different divisions should he want to. But the worst

1134
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: thing that could happen is him come out and not

1135
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: let his hands go and maybe potentially lose a technical,

1136
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, out on the outside boxing match that could

1137
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: be akin to Romero's fight without a Sonia. As long

1138
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: as we don't go down that road, we could be

1139
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: in the in the fun business here under the beltour

1140
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: banner with Yoel if he comes out there and can

1141
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: win and now you know finished Ville Davis, which no

1142
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: one does. Obviously, there's much bigger things available to him,

1143
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: like a world title after this Grand Prix and all that.

1144
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: But I think Luke to find out what his identity

1145
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: will be at this weight class is what I'm most

1146
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: looking forward to. I think there's enough reason where you

1147
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: have people saying, stop calling a wrestler. I know he's

1148
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: got those wrestling skills, but he don't wrestle like this

1149
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: at the highest level. Will he need to at light heavyweight?

1150
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, is he gonna come out there

1151
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: and just be a slick bub I'd love to see

1152
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: him come out there and be the explosive destroyer that

1153
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: we know him to be. But nobody looks great against

1154
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: Phil Davis. So I think there's an interesting level of

1155
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: theater here coming up on this Saturday night Belator card

1156
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: on Showtime that you gotta be there. You gotta see

1157
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: what happens next.

1158
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, I had said it was on Friday. Let

1159
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: me correct the record. It is on Saturday the eighteenth,

1160
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: at the SAP Center in San Jose, California. A couple

1161
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: of things I would say at one, dude, you weell.

1162
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: Ramero hasn't won a fight since twenty eighteen and hasn't

1163
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: competed since March seventh of twenty twenty, just before the

1164
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: pandemic really kicked into full gear here in the United States,

1165
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: so we haven't really seen him in quite some time.

1166
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: And obviously he is not a spring chicken, so there's

1167
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: some questions there be See, let me pitch you back

1168
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: to you one way before I say what fight I'm

1169
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: looking forward to most, which is that I have seen

1170
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: a criticism and I don't think it's necessarily misplaced that, yes,

1171
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: you've got Phil Davis high level light heavyweight, you've got

1172
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: you Wel Romero high level light heavyweight, and for one

1173
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: reason or another, both are no longer in the tournament,

1174
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: although who knows, they be reinserted at some point if

1175
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: there's an injury or whatever, and so they it makes

1176
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: sense to put them together. On the other hand, you know,

1177
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: if it's Joel Romero's first fight at two of five,

1178
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: the tournament has moved on, why give him a fighter

1179
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: who I'm not gonna call Phil Davis boring, but what

1180
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is he is a very careful manager

1181
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: of risk and exchanges, and that isn't necessarily an ingredient

1182
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: for starmaking. It isn't an ingredient for thrilling action. There's

1183
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: a lot of ways in which this could go wrong.

1184
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: Did Belazer get the wrong opponent for this first fight

1185
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: at two of five? For you, Al Romero, I think.

1186
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: That's a very fair question. I'm glad that you posed

1187
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: it because it's it emphasizes some of the fears that

1188
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 2: I just mentioned that nobody dominates Phil Davis, nobody controls him.

1189
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: In fact, if you're gonna beat him. You're gonna have

1190
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: to be very technical. You're gonna have to be what

1191
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: Ryan Bader did in one of the worst fights we

1192
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: ever saw at Belatre NYC. You're gonna have to be

1193
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: like Davis's last bout, Luke, when he went in there

1194
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: against Nemkov for the title and they're rematchine. Both of

1195
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: their fights were decisions, and and I thought Davis fought

1196
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: a lot better in the first one, but he wasn't

1197
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: man handled in the second because he's hard to do

1198
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: that against. Despite his late age, He's got the length

1199
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: of you understand like he's a very smart fighter. I

1200
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: think Phil Davis has been his own worst enemy at

1201
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: times for not being willing to step on that gas pedal.

1202
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, again, there's a potential to see Romero out

1203
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: of Sonya all over again, Luke. That would not be

1204
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: good in terms of Bellator trying to make noise signing

1205
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: Joel Romero was a make noise bang the drum. We've

1206
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: got this really exciting guy that you love. I just

1207
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: wonder what would have happened, Luke. Nobody wants to hear

1208
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: me say this, but I did score Romero three to

1209
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: two over Auto Sonya our boy is he left that

1210
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: back door open and took a huge gamble doing just enough.

1211
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: What would the world have look like if Romero had

1212
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: won that Luke would have gone right into the pandemic.

1213
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: Who knows if they would have rematched right away, But

1214
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: here we are, all this time later, and should they

1215
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: have given him a schlub, he could go in there

1216
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: and knock out. You could argue that, Luke, But I

1217
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: don't know if it would have been as exciting to

1218
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: me coming in to see what's gonna happen next. And

1219
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: I think that excitement is really what's driving me this week.

1220
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: I want to see if he can compete at the

1221
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: title level, because if he can, and if he beats

1222
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: Phil Davis, I'll prove it. But if not, Luke, He's

1223
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: just going to be an attraction who you hope can

1224
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: knock people up.

1225
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: Also on that card, and even Gracie is back in

1226
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: your co Cobine event excuse me against Mark Leminger. Also

1227
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: BC Colombia in the House Alejandra Laura Sewell is taken

1228
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: on Deanna Bennett, longtime MMA pioneer Laura for folks who

1229
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: may not know, actually it was from Columbia, but lives

1230
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: in Mexico, trains at the same gym as you know,

1231
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: uh Dna Aldonna and all of the sort of women

1232
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: we know for Rosso Alexi Grosso, all of them from

1233
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: that same gym. So it was a smart movie that

1234
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: she's been there for a few years at this point,

1235
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: but smart move of her to go over there so

1236
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: you could look at those two Georgie Kara Khani and

1237
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: taking on Saul Rogers on the card BC. For me,

1238
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the UFC card obviously. In

1239
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: your main event, Anthony Smith taken on Ryan Span. Anthony

1240
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: Smith looked good in his last fight, beating Jimmy Crut

1241
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: before that Devin Lark. He's in a two fight win streak.

1242
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Span kind of stumbled against Johnny Walker, but against

1243
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: we should sirking Off got the job done pretty quickly.

1244
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: Also got a performance of the night bonus to me,

1245
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: Smith is the much more polished of the two. I

1246
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: think Span is probably more of a physical powerhouse and

1247
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: is well trained out of our safe soode. He's a

1248
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: guy who knows how to bring out the best of

1249
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: the people who come through his door. But Span, you know,

1250
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: kind of gave away that Johnny Walker fight, dropping him

1251
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: twice and then going for the takedown and he didn't

1252
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: really need to, and then just getting hammer fisted into

1253
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: a stoppage. It was a weird contest. So the guy's

1254
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: got a lot of ability, but has some things to

1255
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: clean up with the management of what strategies he uses.

1256
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: I like that plus violence. Queen Ariana E. Lipski is back,

1257
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: but the big one for me be see aside from

1258
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: that main event, the guy I've got my eye on.

1259
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: Someone was asking me the other day, you know, name

1260
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: top five prospects that are maybe ranked or just outside

1261
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: the rankings that you think in five years are going

1262
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: to be a completely different position, and by that I

1263
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: mean a superior one. And one guy on my list

1264
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: is Arminsar yuki In. Arminsar yuki In is a very

1265
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: very talented guy. He gave Makachev a bit of a

1266
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: rough time. He lost the bout was he was overmatched

1267
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: when he when he fought him. But he has been

1268
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a bulldozer. He hasn't been in the

1269
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: octagon since let's see January of this year when he

1270
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: ran over Matt Vola. He beat Daby Hamosh as well.

1271
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: Needs to work on finishing fights, getting closer to a stoppage.

1272
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of wrestling, control, gas tank, pursuit of positions,

1273
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: always working. He is very very good. I got my

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00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: eye on him as well.

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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: Joaquin Buckley and Impa Kasangane in separate bouts on this card, Luke,

1276
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 2: just run him back together. Let's see some more.

1277
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Spince shit, right, and also Panny keon Zod one of

1278
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: the most improved fighters on the entire UFC roster, taking

1279
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: on Raquel Pennington on the prelims there for UFC, So

1280
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: another one to kind of pay attention.

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: To Pennington back deep, very deep on there.

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00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I said, you know what, she might

1283
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: be the end of her contract. Who knows.

1284
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: Hey, Luke, you did dust over quickly that saying a

1285
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: great main event. It's not that Anthony Smith and Ryan spin.

1286
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Such dude, you are a per perpetual critic.

1287
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: It's not that it doesn't have the potential for fireworks.

1288
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: But when it's not a great card to begin with

1289
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: and it's an in between fight night, I get that,

1290
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: But this ain't a main event I'm clamoring to see Luke.

1291
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, but let me read you this. This

1292
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: came from a writer from Laddiebow, Trent rain Smith, who

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00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: writes of Anthony Smith's last ten fights, eight have been

1294
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: against either UFC champions, former UFC champions, or UFC title challengers.

1295
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: In that span, he went four and four. Now does

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00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: that tell you he's the world's best fighter. No, it

1297
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily say he's the world's best fighter, but it

1298
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: says he's fucking good. He is a very very good fighter,

1299
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: and he is, in my judgment, worthy of much more

1300
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: respect than he receives.

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00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, this is just it's not like a

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: main event worthy fight. I think. I just want you

1303
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: to admit that. I just want you to admit that

1304
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: this is a disappointing main event.

1305
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know that it's the best main event

1306
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

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00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: For you, Oh, that is so Switzerland, you scared mother efforts.

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00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: Just let's see. Well No, no, I can just sort

1309
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: of usually I can tell you this by a virtue

1310
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: of the rankings. So where do they sit in the rankings?

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Speaker 2: Anthony Smith, scientific data, I'll tell you that this is

1312
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: not a good main event.

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01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: Luke a fine. Anthony Smith's sitting at six, Ryan Span

1314
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: sitting at eleven. Smith to me is must see span

1315
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: is still very much unproven, so in that sense, I

1316
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's got a lot of sizzle per se,

1317
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: but a very good test for Anthony Smith.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't know if Smith is must see

1319
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: Luke like I will see if he's the B side

1320
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: to a good fight.

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01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: But that's fine. You don't have to like. You don't

1322
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: have to like everything. That's okay, that's all right. I

1323
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: try to help you know what.

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01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: You want to must see. Luke. Here's a fighter who's

1325
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: must see who you want a champion for some I mean,

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01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: can we get back in there, JJ, please please?

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Speaker 1: All right. With that out of the way, it's time

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: now for our next segment d MS from DUNCS. This

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: is where Juja Bronis ask us a question and we

1330
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: answer it allegedly. All right. I think this comes to

1331
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: us from our friends over at the MacLife. One of

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01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: the hardest working guys at MMA Media, Oscar s Willis, Yes, asks, hi, guys,

1333
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I showered for six hours after watching the Triller Show,

1334
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: Yet I don't feel clean. What's my next step?

1335
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: Uh? So, look, you got any of that carbonic acid

1336
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: left that you're always talking about?

1337
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: I know yeah, maybe maybe instead of showering with water,

1338
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: just use bleach. I don't know, I really I can't.

1339
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't know. I don't know what the

1340
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: answer is.

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01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I don't mean to like, I mean

1342
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: to be labor this because I didn't love Floyd and Logan. Okay, sucked,

1343
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: but there's almost an irresponsible level of suck. It's gross.

1344
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't want it. Okay, no more, no more, no.

1345
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: More, dude, for real. Just here's what I would say, Like,

1346
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: if you watched it, you know, it's the it's it's

1347
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: it's it's ace Ventura, you know, with the plunger in

1348
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: his mouth afterwards kind.

1349
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: Of things, ash cheeks look talking right, it's his sphincter.

1350
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: Just yes, let me ask you a question. Accept. Accept

1351
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: Except you know, for folks out there, just next time

1352
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: someone's like, do the revolutionizing boxing, just tell them to

1353
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. Please just do me a solid

1354
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: all right? From at Greg Leech ninety nine. Judging by

1355
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: how good Anderson Silva has looked in his recent boxing outings,

1356
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: kind of went over this a little bit. How successful

1357
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: of a career do you think he could have had? No,

1358
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: didn't in boxing all along, it's a little bit different,

1359
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: and let me just say BC for the folks who

1360
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: may have seen it. Devin Haney, one of boxing's young

1361
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: bright stars, tweeted on Saturday that Anderson Silva may have

1362
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: should have considered doing boxing all along, given how well

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01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: he's doing now in this sort of like moment he's in,

1364
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: what do you think, uh, what do.

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Speaker 2: You have had the same level of success yet and UFC? No, no,

1366
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: not the same. But he's showing you to have this

1367
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: level of speed and reflexes again again this level competition.

1368
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: But to still have this at forty six and to

1369
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: make the transition in footwork so easily. Obviously he had

1370
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Speaker 2: two profights before this, one in ninety eight, one in

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01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: two thousand and five, But to do that that easily, Luke,

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01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: And to look back at his biggest UFC moments and

1373
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: just see, as you mentioned, the magic, the ability to

1374
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: rise above in almost be a freaking alien in there. Yeah,

1375
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: he would have had some kind of success in boxing.

1376
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: He's showing you that he has the size understanding of distance, movement,

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: reflex just sick all time great level reflexes like Roy

1378
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: Jones level reflexes. I think he could have been a

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01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: boxing world champion. Yes, could he have been one of

1380
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: the goat, you know, the greatest of his era, I'm

1381
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: not sure because let's not forget that you're doing that

1382
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: in MMA, especially you know, ten fifteen years ago against

1383
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: people who just don't have the same level of preparation

1384
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: and experience with the hands. But clearly, Luke, if he

1385
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: had made a career out of this, he's world champion level,

1386
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 2: There's no question. I mean, he's a special athlete, and

1387
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: you know he's a freak.

1388
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: He's a freak good. I mean, obviously there are different

1389
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: situations and they're fighting different kinds of guys in different

1390
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: weight classes. But like, if there's a place for Clay

1391
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: Collard to have a little fun in boxing, there would

1392
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: easily have been a place for Anderson Silva to do well.

1393
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't think he would have been

1394
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: one of the best of all time, but a world

1395
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: champion in his weight class, I don't think that's out

1396
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: of the question. I think that's absolutely in play. And

1397
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, when you've got boxers being like, okay, I

1398
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: see that this guy's got some skills. I take that

1399
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: very seriously. Because you and I both lived through an

1400
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: eraw we could have shown them the very best that

1401
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: NIM had to offer and they never would have said that.

1402
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: And here they are just offering it up willy nilly

1403
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: like it's quite obvious and so tells you a lot

1404
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: about dude, Anderson. Silva is a fucking great ambassador for

1405
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: the sport. We should just say that. Man, he's over there,

1406
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck he's doing, and I don't know what's

1407
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: going to be next for him, but dude, do I

1408
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: feel like MMA is well represented whenever he does what

1409
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: he does? Every time? Man, every time, every time he

1410
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: does something out there, it feels like it's like the

1411
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: one thing you can kind of trust. Silva may win

1412
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: or lose depending on what happens or how long he

1413
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: does this, and maybe we'll have to change that if

1414
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: he keeps going too long, but for now, he's a

1415
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: great ambassador for him A man, I'm very proud.

1416
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: In light of the reactions to his win over Chavez

1417
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: and this one. Who do you think what's the current

1418
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: power rankings pound for pound rankings on most beloved MMA

1419
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: fighters of all time? Do you think he's the most beloved?

1420
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: Like there were you know, Randy was the most beloved

1421
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: for a long time and then GSP was so freaking beloved.

1422
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: And I mean, is Anderson the number one? Like I

1423
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: think John John Jones is the goat, but he's not

1424
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: anywhere near that folk hero just like people love. Maybe

1425
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: it's the busheto spirit, the calmness, the generous nature of

1426
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: always giving back. Anderson's got to be, pound for pound

1427
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: number one most beloved.

1428
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: Correct, probably right now, You're right. I lived through an

1429
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: era where it was Randy for a while. I lived

1430
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: through an era where Chuck was that guy for a while. Yeah, yeah,

1431
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: Matt Hughes even prior to the train wreck. But yeah, yeah,

1432
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: Silva might be out there again because to everything with

1433
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: the way the UFC ended, And I'm not we sat

1434
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: up before. We're not bagging on UFC when we say this.

1435
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: We'll save our criticisms for UFC when they when they're

1436
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 1: when they're merited. We'll retrack them when they're not. They're

1437
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: just not built to give a guy like that an

1438
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: exit that matches what he can do or should be doing.

1439
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: They're they're built for the other end of the game,

1440
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: and they can't really change at it. That's just who

1441
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: they are. So someone else and some of the opportunity

1442
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: had to come along for him to write the Ship

1443
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: and at least as as much as it can be.

1444
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: And it did. And so you're beginning to see all

1445
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: of these feelings that will change too, you know, dude,

1446
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: the memories will fade for on Anderson. But right now

1447
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: you're asking, like the current sort of stock account, I

1448
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: think he might be number one due I think it's

1449
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: a good point.

1450
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some have said that that that's where

1451
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: I sit right now in MMA media in terms of

1452
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: just most just just beloved, Like there's people just charing

1453
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: for this guy just to seed you know.

1454
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: All right? Uh from at Cubby's Fan eighty this is

1455
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: more for UBC. But what's your mount rushmore of songs

1456
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: that mean the most to you lyrically?

1457
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a that's a deep cut, Luke. I can't

1458
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: wait for you to full up to pull out ip

1459
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: blood or uh.

1460
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with fucking Hostile by Pantera, but

1461
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: we can go other directions.

1462
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: All right. That's a great question because I've I've always

1463
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: been more of a lyric guy than a than a

1464
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: you know, grooving guy. That's why you know there was

1465
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: a time Luke, and you know where I specifically saw it.

1466
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a Bob Dylan guy.

1467
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1468
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: If you're a Bob Dylan guy, then you were into

1469
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: the poetry of lyrics and what what the words of

1470
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: a song can mean to you.

1471
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Speaker 1: All Right?

1472
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: My favorite song of all time, Luke, And I can

1473
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: argue it's my favorite song of all time because Dicky

1474
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 2: bets Is, you know, three minutes solo in the middle

1475
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: is just freaking incredible. But it's Blue Sky by the

1476
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: Almond Brothers, and certainly lyrically it's it's uplifting and it's incredible.

1477
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: That's a big one, Luke. There's certain songs that have

1478
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: lyrics about uh, about overcoming that walk by the Foo Fighters.

1479
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: You know that one.

1480
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: No, I don't listen to them.

1481
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: It was sort of a twenty ten ish era one

1482
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: for them. It is one of the more inspiring songs

1483
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: of all time. There's an acoustic song that uh that

1484
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: Pearl jam has that any vetter wrote that is that

1485
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: is really maybe it's off of that hold look you talk,

1486
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: let me look it up real quick.

1487
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't have I have to really

1488
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: think about this because there's a two songs They're not

1489
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: even really my favorite songs by any stretch the imagination,

1490
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: but they kind of resonate a little bit. The first

1491
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: would be would by Alison Chains, obviously the lead singer

1492
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: for you know the young'ins who might be watching. He

1493
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: died tragically odd and then they didn't find him for

1494
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: a long time, and wood is about his struggle with

1495
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: the resurgence of addiction after long bouts of sobriety. So

1496
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Lyrically, I might, I might throw

1497
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: I might throw Angelus by Elliott Smith in there.

1498
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: Maybe Wow, Elliott Smith gets gets dark and deep Luke, Okay.

1499
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: I might, I might go that. I might go that route.

1500
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: But in funner ways too, like music to a degree

1501
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: is supposed to be fine, I'm not supposed to just

1502
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: be heavy. Dude. I could list for you any number

1503
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: of bars from all the various rap songs I've heard

1504
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: over the years that I've just gotten so much joy

1505
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: from hearing, you know, I.

1506
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 2: Think the hook for me? Do I prefer melancholy music

1507
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: in this category in terms of what lyrics move you

1508
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: the most? Normally? So look, I'll put Anna Begins by

1509
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: the Counting Crows in there without question. One of the

1510
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: just deepest lyrically just hits the right tones. I've been there,

1511
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: I've been in that field relationship. I know what that's like.

1512
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: First Day of My Life by Bright Eyes, Luke. I'm

1513
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: sure you don't get it to that. Indie Emo's no

1514
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: is Uh is incredible and certainly has as a spiritual

1515
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: connection if you read it that way. In Your Rise

1516
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: by Peter Gabriel is one of I think the most

1517
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: beautifully lyrically written songs of all time.

1518
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: Also, just these are all sappy. You don't have anything

1519
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: kind of like manly.

1520
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: Just Breathe by Pearl Jam was that acoustic what I mentioned?

1521
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's Eddie Veder's best song you

1522
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: ever Rowe. I mean, I'm not even fooling around. I mean, look,

1523
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: they're they're you know, you get a you get a

1524
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 2: potential one that just moves you that you can just

1525
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: you know, spout tears upon hearing it, and the way

1526
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: it hits. Some songs only have that one line. Some

1527
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: songs it's a whole thing. But you're looking for something manly, Luke,

1528
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: do those manly songs hit me in the same way

1529
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: where they all this?

1530
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this hold on, I'll tell you this.

1531
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: This one we might share lyrically. Again, we're not talking

1532
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: about like so the whole song and everything else lyrically.

1533
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: One song I've really enjoyed. Two songs I've enjoyed for

1534
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: the drive by Trucker Gravity's Gone.

1535
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: I love the.

1536
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: Lyrics and Gravity's Gone.

1537
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, Yeah.

1538
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: In fact, I want to pull them up because this

1539
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: one is just it's there's a man. If you've ever

1540
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: been at the bottom of a bottle too many time,

1541
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: too many times, you know, I don't know what to

1542
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: tell you, but let me talking.

1543
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: About women without whiskey by the Drive by Truckers one

1544
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: of them.

1545
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: That's another good one too. That's another go one too.

1546
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: But here's the here's the uh, here's the chorus.

1547
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 2: By the way, the opening line of that song is,

1548
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: if I make it through this year, I think I'm

1549
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 2: gonna put this bottle down. That's an incredible opening line.

1550
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And here's the chorus for Gravity's Gone quote

1551
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: so I'll meet you at the bottom if there really

1552
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: is one. They always told me, when you hit it,

1553
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: you'll know it. But I've been falling so long. It's

1554
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: like Gravity's gone and I'm just floating. I mean those

1555
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: have you ever heard? I heard that song maybe at

1556
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: like the peak moment of like numbing through alcohol in

1557
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: my life. Yes, and uh, that one hit like a

1558
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: ton of bricks.

1559
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: Like Cooley, the the Second League guitarist wrote all those

1560
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: we just mentioned from the DBT, and obviously I mentioned

1561
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 2: before Jason Isbill's Elephant, which is off the Southeastern album

1562
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: that we reviewed for homework that time, is probably the

1563
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: deepest song of all time. I mean, that's just moved.

1564
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: You want to get moved. You want to during a song.

1565
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: You want to feel the ache, even someone's pain that

1566
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: you don't even know, you know.

1567
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: Hold on, dude, what's the other? Hold on? What's the

1568
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: other song? By Drive by Truckers? They use it for

1569
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: the car ad? Yeah, yeah, Lookout Mountain, Lookout Mountain.

1570
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 2: That's mountain. But but I don't think that's the same song.

1571
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: But that is a good song, Lookout Mountain, drive by Truckers.

1572
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: Is that what the name of the song is, Well,

1573
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: that's it.

1574
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: That's one of their songs. But I don't think that

1575
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 2: riff was Lookout Mountain that you did.

1576
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: I can't for sure that is. I mean, I mean

1577
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: it does not sound a great over zoom, but like,

1578
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: listen to this when they This is one of the

1579
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: one of the paragraphs of the verses from the song

1580
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: If I throw myself off lookout mountain, no more pain

1581
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: my soul to bear, No more worries about paying taxes,

1582
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: what to eat, what to wear? Who will end up

1583
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: with my records, who will end up with my tapes?

1584
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: Who will pay my credit card bills? Who's gonna pay

1585
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: for my mistakes? Bro, I gotta tell you that's a

1586
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: fucking great That's just that's poetry. I don't know what

1587
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: to tell you. You know it is great, like a.

1588
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone and Desolation roll by Bob Dylan er in

1589
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: this category, Luke. And also, uh, do you know that

1590
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: song Hail Hail by the Pearl Jam?

1591
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't.

1592
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: Which has that that which has that incredible line? Are

1593
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: you woman enough to be my man? Bandaged? Hand in hand?

1594
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 2: Anyone ever had been at the uh, at the bottom

1595
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: of a failing life and failing relationship? And uh, you

1596
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: know that that one stings. That's a stingers.

1597
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: But also just you know, I had a lot of

1598
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: good times on music too, Like I'm listening to the

1599
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: Coffin now off the Cornerstone Cornerstone of the Corner Store

1600
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: album by Vinnie Paz, and it just opens with uh

1601
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: the four fifth Symphony, lift him, Uh, lift you. It'll

1602
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: spin your head around like a Rotissa ye chicken. I

1603
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: mean you just have good times with simple bars about

1604
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 1: killing people.

1605
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: That you that you called me out and said, you know,

1606
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: is there anything manly? I don't know if you could

1607
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 2: get that same feeling of the lyrics in a manly

1608
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: hard rock song, Luke, it's kind of you know, I mean,

1609
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to courage people to

1610
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: listen to Elliott Smith and stab themselves in the heart.

1611
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: But it's kind of gotta be a you know, dark

1612
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: Counting Crows sort of, you know, gil Over decisions that

1613
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: made of my life depression setting in those are the

1614
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: ones that tend to move you the most.

1615
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, last thing on this, I can't I would

1616
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: be I disagree because I would be remiss if I

1617
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,879
Speaker 1: didn't bring up Sean Price, one of the best MC's

1618
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: in my lifetime ever, and this is just one of

1619
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: my favorite sixteen bars he did. Sean Price, boot Camp's

1620
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: best give Me the Number two pencil, Watch Me take

1621
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: the test, shake your set, break your neck, competitors fleet,

1622
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: who the fuck rhyme better than me? No body dutching

1623
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: my ear? Oe in my palm, I Freddy Krueger, your face,

1624
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: Michael Meyer's your mom's you bothering mind. That's when I'm

1625
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: sparking the nine, pull out the thing, flang mo on

1626
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: like clober in time, fantastic flow, connect the concepts, broke

1627
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: with new kicks. That's my projects. My man's like ruck.

1628
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: You ain't teaching the kids. I stuck my hand out

1629
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: in three pieced his wig. I'm doing my thing. You

1630
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: knew to the game. Don't hate celebrate Paul cool in

1631
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: the gang. I don't have a big crew, just drew

1632
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: in star Rang and a couple of loose screw dudes

1633
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: boosting your chain. Bro this is the ship that will

1634
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: nod your head for a lifetime.

1635
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: That if what I think inspiration, Luke, I hear those

1636
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: lyrics in my head.

1637
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: By any way, you're hater. You have to and you

1638
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: think it can only be Moby White guys talking about it.

1639
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: You really care? I mean it really can't.

1640
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 2: Okay, it really can, by the way. Tupac died twenty

1641
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: five years ago. Today, Luke. Okay, so yeah, you know

1642
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: he you know, he could talk about a bitch, but

1643
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: he also could be inspiring Luke.

1644
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: Right, I guess all right?

1645
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 2: From your mama, you are you, in fact are appreciated.

1646
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: Right uh? Maybe so? From at Jake xx bird Merch

1647
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: two point oh is the ship so far? But can

1648
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: we get some mk rash guards?

1649
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: Shit? Wow? Take that crup. Wow it works? Two point oh?

1650
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: Really really shitting up my inbox lately? Wow?

1651
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: Okay he says it's the ship, not some ship.

1652
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh I thought he meant the shits as in it sucks. Okay, good,

1653
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: thank you, Thank you, sir, Luke. I don't know what

1654
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: would sell more mk rash guards or MK lifting gloves.

1655
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: Lifting gloves, but they're but you couldn't sell them for

1656
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: the same price point is the difference? Okay? Okay. Also,

1657
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: my daughter has returned from the park like Conan the Barbarian,

1658
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: with several heads in tow wanting me to see her trophies. Okay.

1659
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: From Jonathan toe Darien, I don't know who suffers more

1660
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: from I'm an artist syndrome BC or J Well, both

1661
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: have the same level of delusion about it. No, that's

1662
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: not true. Jay has much more delusion about it, significantly more.

1663
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: As a matter of.

1664
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: Fact, Pennington James, you mean, yeah, Pennington James is living

1665
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: in his own on his own island, in his own world.

1666
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: But Luke, I think you do have to get to

1667
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: a point with Pennington. And we shake our head a

1668
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: lot at Producer Jay for rightful reasons. There is an

1669
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: on a bashed passion to get over, like to get

1670
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: something to click. He's an he's a struggling artist who's

1671
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: got his brush dipped in a lot of different paint varieties, Luke,

1672
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: and he's just he's just throwing ship at the wall

1673
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: trying to get something over. Luke, I mean, look back

1674
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: to the Future, Doc. It was pretty good, right, it

1675
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: wasn't bad.

1676
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: No, it's terrible.

1677
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: These Pennington James hits, they're uh there there there's something

1678
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean. Look, you know, I just understand my art.

1679
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: I don't mean my painting. That's more of healing. But Luke,

1680
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: you know, one day, Luke, one day people will realize that,

1681
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm not in this for the for

1682
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 2: the for the hat takes.

1683
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: Luke.

1684
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I've been you know what we created here

1685
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: as a sitcom. What we created here as a community, Luke,

1686
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: what we created here is is love and peace and joy. Okay,

1687
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: just ain't about fights. That that was the that's what

1688
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 2: got people in the door. Oh okay, go, I gotta

1689
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: hear your talk takes on, Triller, But no, fuck off. Okay,

1690
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: you're here because it just feels good and in that

1691
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: and in that regard, I'm your Willy Wonka. All right, brother,

1692
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Luke, Okay, you know what

1693
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1694
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: I haven't listened to a word you've said in the

1695
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: last five minutes. Just want you to know that. Okay,

1696
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: I do love you, though.

1697
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: Thank Augustus Gloop, you'll end up in the Chocoa River.

1698
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 2: Believe that, all right, that.

1699
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: Part I believe actually all right? With that in mind,

1700
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: good sir, it's time to watch elder abuse, right, Triller,

1701
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: you know.

1702
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: I might have a few of those this week. It's

1703
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: we uh, well, we're there already, Okay. Corey's like, yo,

1704
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: can you guys get out of this topic? Please? We

1705
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: gotta go home. Okay. Oh. You know what we do.

1706
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: We search the globe for the highs and lows, the good,

1707
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: the bad, the in between the ugly all that good

1708
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: stuff it's called. Have you seen this shit? Oh God,

1709
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: all right, Luke from two weeks ago, check this shit out.

1710
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: In an Invicta FC, Emily Ducati ko's Danielle Taylor to

1711
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: win the straw Way Championship. Luke, this was some brutal

1712
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 2: ish right here. Did you see this ship?

1713
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: This is one of the best KOs of the year.

1714
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: Barnunn stops her dead in the track with a right

1715
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: over the top and then sits her down. I mean, you, guys,

1716
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: caung out to dry, Luke, right like a marriage. Emily

1717
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: Ducatti is someone who I've been following for a long time.

1718
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: She was in Belator for a while and I thought

1719
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: she was gonna be a champion within a very short order.

1720
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: And listen, she had a couple of bumps in the road,

1721
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: although she's been winning as well. But to me, this

1722
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: fight and what she's been doing and Invicta of late,

1723
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: she's really rounded a corner. She is a very talented fighter.

1724
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: This was for a title, by the way.

1725
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 2: It was a heck of a combination with the punches

1726
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: and then and then of course she had the free

1727
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: shot with the head.

1728
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: Taylor a UFC Vet.

1729
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, let's go to Cleveland.

1730
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: Luke.

1731
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: We got some leftovers from the Jake Paul Tyron Woodley

1732
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: card that I haven't made the Have you seen this yet?

1733
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: Check out the uh check out this fight, Luke.

1734
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: In the crowd I like to do with the backwards dude.

1735
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,440
Speaker 1: This crowd was like a gathering of the Juggalos.

1736
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look at this up please, look at all

1737
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: these Fortnite players just going at it, Luke, this is great.

1738
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: They threw more punches than I think Tyron and Jake combined.

1739
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: Is that Bretto Komodo letting go his hands there?

1740
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: Wow, Brett Brett will throw hands with the Juggalos. Don't

1741
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: think you won't.

1742
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: Oh shit. Now the kid that got knocked out, he's

1743
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: getting back up. Look at this he wants a little

1744
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 2: bit more.

1745
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: Also, I don't understand how this guy on the left

1746
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: is dressed. He's like, it's like a UCLA TI die thing.

1747
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah.

1748
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: Oh, look that kid's running away in the red shoes.

1749
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: He's had enough. All right? Good shit.

1750
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 1: A lot of dudes with skateboards who want to fist

1751
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: fight each other.

1752
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 2: Luke, we saw some hate in that arena the night

1753
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 2: we also saw some love. How about this for a

1754
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 2: heartwarming moment, mom versus mom Mama Woodley and Jake Paul's

1755
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 2: mom just celebrating the fact that neither of their sons

1756
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: were carted off after this.

1757
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: One, Luke, Yes, And I gotta say, if you've ever

1758
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: met Mama Woodley, she is about as pleasant and wonderful

1759
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: a human being as there is. I don't know Jake

1760
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: Paul's mom, but she seems quite nice as well.

1761
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: Would you wear that problem child? Calves Jersey that Jake

1762
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 2: Paul's dad is wearing it? No, all right, let's keep

1763
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: it going. Hey, regional mma, Luke, anything can happen this

1764
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: from fc R nine. Check out this ko from Loof Alexander.

1765
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: When it's regional mma like this and a guy is

1766
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: like waving a guy on, I can never tell if

1767
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 1: he's going to ko or get kaoed. Usually they get chaot.

1768
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: They got ko from leg Drag too, the.

1769
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: Head bouncing off the canvas, got a couple extra shots

1770
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: in there. Loof's like enough of this, Yeah, and look

1771
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: at the guy called him on too. You get called out,

1772
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: you call somebody on, then they knock you out, Luke,

1773
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: that's a bad look.

1774
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, yeah, see he does it a couple

1775
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: of times here and then the dude, let's see what

1776
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: he does which his stances and it comes over tell

1777
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: you well the right there you go.

1778
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 2: Hey, Luke, you've been very critical of uh what do

1779
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: you call that when you asked somebody to marry you propose? Yeah,

1780
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: public proposals set to video. You've been very critical here.

1781
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 2: Please give me your take on Miranda mavericks fiance asking

1782
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: her hand in marriage.

1783
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: Here. Oh I saw this, I saw this.

1784
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: Can we blow this up?

1785
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: Core? So he I think he fails on the squat

1786
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: on purpose. He's got a weird setup too, by the way,

1787
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: although he's strong as fuck. Let's see and he so

1788
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: he drops the weight to the pins right there and

1789
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: then turns around. Oh shit, I mean listen.

1790
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 2: Look, I put you in a tough spot because you

1791
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: loved some Mirandom Maverick.

1792
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I do. I think she's a tremendous talent, and

1793
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: obviously these two are quite happy together. She just I

1794
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: follow her on Instagram. She just moved to Colorado to

1795
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: be with Elevation Fight Team. I wouldn't have done it

1796
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: this way. You guys know my policies. But if she's happy,

1797
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 1: then that's what matters.

1798
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 2: So she said yes, can we go to the next slide? Please?

1799
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: She did say yes. And how about the guy getting

1800
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: two handfuls of that that backside there in that video? Hey, hey, shoot,

1801
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: you know take it over? All right? Thank you. Let's

1802
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: keep it rolling here. Let's go down to Mexico, Luke.

1803
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,959
Speaker 2: Some wild boxing, We got some we got some fat heavyweights.

1804
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: This is some crazy stuff right here.

1805
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: How much rather watch this than troller? Oh? Yeah, oh no, yes,

1806
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: I would absolutely much rather watch this than than troller.

1807
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: You ever see that gimmick WW does in like brock

1808
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: lesnar Mark Henry matches where the ring explodes, Luke, they

1809
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 2: got like a balloon underneath that pops it. This is

1810
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 2: real right here?

1811
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Are you asking me if I've seen esoteric wrestling events. No,

1812
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: I've not seen esoteric wrestling events, Luke.

1813
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 2: You always clowned me for elder abuse. But I've started

1814
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: a new Oh my god, look at that. I started

1815
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: the new segment here where elders win. Let's celebrate some

1816
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: elder wins here, Luke. Check out this guy eighty nine

1817
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: years old in a mountain bike race.

1818
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus Christ.

1819
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, Luke, that was actually I filed that under the

1820
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: wrong header. This should have been under elder abuse. Wow.

1821
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 2: Hey Greg, Hey, great Tampa, maybe maybe you should retire

1822
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: from this sport already? Okay, age is just a number.

1823
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 1: Can we get can we get Grandpa a fucking peloton? Yeah? Wow?

1824
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 2: That is uh that was over before it started, Luke. Yeah, wow, Luke,

1825
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 2: that kind of looked like you're run a top of

1826
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: the m M a hour, right.

1827
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. It dragged out a little longer

1828
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,879
Speaker 1: than this, but yeah, not too dissimilar.

1829
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: All right. Let's do a little tip on tip here, Luke.

1830
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks late on this but tough winners

1831
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: Ricky Tercios and Brian Battle celebrating Luke by you know,

1832
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: just just the tips, just for a second into.

1833
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: That We're never doing that, BC, just so that's clearly.

1834
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, from you know, touching tips and effigy to

1835
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 2: actually touching tips. Let's check out these karate masters, Luke,

1836
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: what is going on here?

1837
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: This is actually how BC and I met the first time.

1838
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: Luke, could you describe what is that like really happening

1839
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 2: beyond the uh, beyond the dong on dog action. Did

1840
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: that guy cripple the other guy with the strength of

1841
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: his of his Uh.

1842
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing how much of martial arts, which is

1843
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be about like, oh, in real life situations

1844
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 1: you can rely on us for self defense. Yeah, relies

1845
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: on religious mysticism and cult like elevation of authority. Figures

1846
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: that ohld.

1847
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: Guy though he might have a he might have a

1848
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: dangerous dong though, Luke, I mean look out quickly that

1849
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: he just bent that guy backwards with it.

1850
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: What if it's just you ever seen those things? Rememberhen

1851
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: we were kids, you would put like the ring on

1852
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: and then you would chick some one's hand and it

1853
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: would shock him.

1854
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So you see he's got a he's got

1855
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: a cock ring with that on.

1856
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: The he's got a cocker ring. That just and you

1857
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: know that just pays itself forward.

1858
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: You know, this could actually be an adult movie. We

1859
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: just got shricked into it, Luke, I'm not yet.

1860
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Later on they just took the geese off and banged.

1861
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, white people are gonna white and if

1862
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: it involves a roof, we'll put it on this show, Luke,

1863
01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: check this guy out.

1864
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: People love jumping off roofs. Oh god, wow, just dude,

1865
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: he stiffened up like Terry Adam after Edson Barboza hit

1866
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: him with a spin.

1867
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah that is.

1868
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's a bad one.

1869
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 2: All right. Let's head on over to the bar, Luke.

1870
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty five set night. So uh,

1871
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: these two in the corner, Luke, they are it's their

1872
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 2: song and they are getting after it. All right.

1873
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: I can't see it? Can they blow it up? He

1874
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: picked up?

1875
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 2: He picked his girl up? Boy. Oh no, oh no,

1876
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 2: there's there's way there's weight limits on these rides. Luke,

1877
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 2: this is not a good look.

1878
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean I can't say that I've never stumbled

1879
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: like this drunkenly in similar situations.

1880
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but if you're gonna pick big Z's up,

1881
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 2: you better make sure you can carry her. Look.

1882
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta know, you gotta know what you got there.

1883
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: Like if you're with Big Country, you gotta you know,

1884
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: you gotta take some precautions.

1885
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: All right, Let's head on over to this house party, Luke. No,

1886
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 2: this isn't Brendan Shop's dorm room in college. But check

1887
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: this out, Luke. Wow, I'm looking. He gets up like

1888
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 2: nothing happened.

1889
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

1890
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: Wow? That's uh remember when like you'd see on the news,

1891
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: like man falls off six story building, But don't worry.

1892
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: He was on PCP, so he lived. This is like,

1893
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 2: you know, you drink enough natty lights, Luke, you can

1894
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: go through anything and walk away.

1895
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that he's white. This just seems

1896
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:25,799
Speaker 1: so out of character.

1897
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. All right, Hey, let's

1898
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: head back over to the roof, Luke.

1899
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 1: Right, Oh it's a white guy, right of course. Right, Oh, God,

1900
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: have a drink, asshole.

1901
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 2: There's a Bruce Sternham Luke. I feel like I can't

1902
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: tell if we've had this video before or this same

1903
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: house has produced multiple ones of these, Luke.

1904
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 1: I think that's what he Here's the part that I

1905
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: don't understand. Watch him leave the roof and note that

1906
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: jumping did him Like he didn't elevate himself whatsoever from jumping.

1907
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: He just went down as if he just would normally

1908
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 1: go down. Did you know look at that. There's no

1909
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: elevation off the roof whatsoever. Yeah, it's a straight shot.

1910
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,799
Speaker 1: This motherfucker took the high pot news of the triangle

1911
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 1: right into the drink.

1912
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 2: Right to the zyphoid process. Luke, Right, Yeah, okay, Hey,

1913
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: let's go over to the street. Luke. You ever been

1914
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: drunk at night trying to rip down a street sign?

1915
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 1: I cannot. My attorney tells me to plead the fifth

1916
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: on this.

1917
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: They should have followed the instructions on this sign, Luke.

1918
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: It just stopping already. Oh god, oh god.

1919
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: He Stealing signs is a thing that American male, typically

1920
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: white teenagers do and also in their twenties as well.

1921
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: It's sort of seen as like an act of stupid

1922
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: rebellion and kind of fun. Plus it's always like, oh,

1923
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, you missed this part. BC, Like you

1924
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: would go into someone's dorm room and if they had

1925
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: a stop sign that they had stolen and put it

1926
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: on their wall, or like the favorite one was dumping

1927
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: to get the dumping sign no doubt.

1928
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, or Route three eleven or Root four twenty, say.

1929
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: A few of those. That was a big that was

1930
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: a big trophy to put in your dorm room. But

1931
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: these two are just.

1932
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 2: They're actually really hard to get off, Luke.

1933
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: I've tried to get very difficult to get off, and

1934
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: these two are I mean, we're talking about Darwin Award

1935
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: winners right here.

1936
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: This is great, This is great. All right, hey, Luke,

1937
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 2: let's go over. You've been offering people to try Showtime

1938
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: for thirty days and what happens if they don't like it?

1939
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: Luke? They can pound sand. I've seen this, people send

1940
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: it to me.

1941
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 2: This guy's literally pounding sand.

1942
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: What does this do for you?

1943
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 2: Luke?

1944
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: Supposed to toughen his knuckles?

1945
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 2: Okay, that's bkfc's Reggie Barnett Junior getting ready for his

1946
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,879
Speaker 2: next bare knuckle brawl. Hopefully that works for him. Apparently

1947
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 2: he didn't like Showtime. Should have watched Billions. Let's go

1948
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 2: over to this guy, Luke. We got another guy who

1949
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 2: unhappy Showtime customer. All right, that's that's uh yep, keep

1950
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 2: going dude. Okay, all right, hey, we haven't had any

1951
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: weightlifting heirdos in a while besides Miranda Mavericks fiance, Luke.

1952
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Check out this uh Russian piano lift.

1953
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: Luke.

1954
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: Now, this is gonna looking at but please comment on

1955
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: the strength of this guy, because unless there's some like,

1956
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, magical mystery stuff going on here, this is

1957
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: probably the most impressive thing I've ever seen in my life.

1958
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: Can we go full screen. Please, we gotta we gotta

1959
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 2: take it.

1960
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna decline bench this with a kid on top

1961
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: of him. Just I don't understand what that kid is doing.

1962
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: He's smelling the ass of the other man. Well, put go,

1963
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: go back, go back. He watched the every Okay he

1964
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 1: is what now roll it. He's just gonna go, sir,

1965
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here to smell your ass. I just

1966
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: go with it.

1967
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 2: Toss your salad with syrup or jealous.

1968
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 1: I'll say this, dude, for you to bridge like that,

1969
01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: you have to have incredibly strong legs hips asthmas low back.

1970
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's gotta be a lot going on there

1971
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 1: to make that work. Let's go to the next and

1972
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: you have to have a guy who sniffs another guy's

1973
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: ass on top.

1974
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 2: Of absolutely, Hey, luke, in this next one, these boots

1975
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: were made for lifting, and that's just what they'll do.

1976
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: Oh, these guys are trying to get hurt. I mean

1977
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: this is just I know this guy from the info Instagram.

1978
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: He's a good dude. But these boys are trying to

1979
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: get hurt. Man. So you see, you won't know this,

1980
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: but if you grip the bench press, let's see if

1981
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I can show my hand. If you grip it like this,

1982
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 1: let get it. Yes, If you grip it with the

1983
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: thumb on the outside so the bar sits like this,

1984
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: it's called a suicide grip because that shit will slip

1985
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: out and land on you. This is basically like a

1986
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: suicide grip with cowboy boots.

1987
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 2: Now, is this considered the same as gloves, Luke? Or

1988
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: do you give this guy more respect?

1989
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: He certainly is taking more risk. I can put it

1990
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: that way, okay, hey, Luke.

1991
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: October second, Celebrity Boxing is gonna give us lamar Odom

1992
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: versus Riddick Bow. It's also going to give as Polly

1993
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: Malanaji against Corey b down there in Miami. And here's

1994
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 2: the press conference from two weeks ago. Security had to

1995
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 2: carry Paulie away before he put it on that radio

1996
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,520
Speaker 2: host and TikTok personality.

1997
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Did he win?

1998
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 2: The fight doesn't happen yet. October second second, we got

1999
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 2: to find a way to end that car though, Luke.

2000
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 2: We can't see Rick boll Get getting hurt like this.

2001
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 2: We can't. I mean, lamar Oroom's gonna put it on him, Luke.

2002
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to see that. That's fucking I'd

2003
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: rather just see more more. Uh you know Travis's jump

2004
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:36,839
Speaker 1: off of roofs.

2005
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I was playing hoops in the driving with

2006
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 2: my son yesterday after twenty one and I hit a

2007
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 2: fade away bank shot in his face while calling glass

2008
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 2: to win twenty one to nineteen. But that's not as

2009
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 2: ridiculous of the game winner as this shot. Let's blow

2010
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: it up to really get the full effect, because this

2011
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 2: is absolutely ridiculous from way downtown. Luke, bang.

2012
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: Bro, he won not just with the bounce shot, but

2013
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: he nutmegnum at the same time.

2014
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: That is you get three points from that? Or is

2015
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: that a two pointer because it hit the ground inside

2016
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 2: the arc?

2017
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 1: Luke? Fuck if I know, I think that's two, but

2018
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2019
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Wow, Well, Luke, we're really here not to

2020
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 2: clown all old guys. Check out this incredible setup from

2021
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 2: this old guy on the on the ghetto soccer pitch.

2022
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: He's got that. It was at the Galtha Sarai, Jersey.

2023
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Oh shit, look just look at look at Kyrie bah.

2024
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 2: Celebration is great. I'm sure this guy's a real fun

2025
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: to hang out with, Luke.

2026
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure, But look at I mean, look at these

2027
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 1: other fucking math team rejects. He's playing again.

2028
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 2: You think those wind pants have ever been shitting before, Luke,

2029
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 2: I mean, come.

2030
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 1: On, honest, this is I mean, these guys left the

2031
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: quidditch field to come play soccer. So old man pianist here.

2032
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: You know that's impressive, but let's be let's be honest.

2033
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Two more for you, Luke, you gotta be careful when

2034
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 2: you're playing. We boxing that the kids don't get in

2035
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 2: the way. I hate showing. Ah, God, that's not good

2036
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: at all.

2037
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,560
Speaker 1: That is that should be the sales point for the

2038
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: Oculus rift. Hey, beat the out of your kids that.

2039
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 2: Virtual reality, Luke, the reality is you got knocked the

2040
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 2: f out. Wow ah yikes. All right. We try to

2041
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: show too much kid or animal violence on this. We

2042
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 2: usually just show old people getting wrecked. Luke. I said

2043
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 2: that I wasn't going to show this guy anymore. I

2044
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: said I wouldn't. Well, Luke, this is ridiculous. Please, Corey,

2045
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 2: can you blow this up?

2046
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: This is this is you every time someone sends you

2047
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: a DM, being like yo art.

2048
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: So I I don't want to give this guy the pub.

2049
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 2: But Luke, this is ridiculous.

2050
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 1: This is BC after looking at a girl at a

2051
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: bar who's a solid three.

2052
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Whose family roots are in Eastern Europe. Yeah, yes, you're right,

2053
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 2: You're right.

2054
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Everything about this micro penis loser over the worst.

2055
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 2: Look, he's right, he is rock hard with emotion there.

2056
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 2: You gotta give him that, Wow, Luke.

2057
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate I hate him, and I hate that

2058
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: you make me look at him.

2059
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that would be the last time. Okay, that

2060
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: will be the last time unless he crosses over into

2061
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 2: running and jumping off of roofs anytime soon. Look, that's

2062
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 2: the weird shit in the wacky this week. Okay, I

2063
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: hope you saw it.

2064
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, it's time for odds and ends

2065
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: real quickly if I can be see. I'll go first

2066
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: on this one because it's a little bit of a

2067
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: bigger story. Connor McGregor had a bit of a dust

2068
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: up yesterday at the VMA's I believe, which, by the way,

2069
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: was at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, New York. So

2070
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: just for the record, like the Barclays is not a

2071
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 1: great place for Connor to act in accordance with normal

2072
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: human behavior. But in any case, the reported story Brian

2073
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Campbell is that on the red carpet. I guess Connor

2074
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,759
Speaker 1: McGregor was a presenter. At some point had asked MGK

2075
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: machine Gun Kelly for a selfie, at which point he

2076
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 1: was again reportedly rejected, and he did this. Now, of course,

2077
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: we all know it is true that uh Connor mcgergy

2078
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 1: wanted to buy the old man in the pub in

2079
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 1: Ireland to shot. The guy refused and Connor punched him

2080
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: in the back of the head. So it isn't keeping

2081
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,560
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum with the kind of behavior he

2082
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: has exhibited previously.

2083
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 2: Look at Connor in that nice pink jacket throwing a

2084
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 2: drink at that rapper.

2085
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 1: Luke, is he a rapper's?

2086
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't look, I don't know.

2087
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, have.

2088
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 2: Still a thing?

2089
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean?

2090
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 2: This is well, first of all, why is Connor there? Look,

2091
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: let's give a state of the union on Connor. His

2092
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: post leg break Pourier trilogy loss has been a a

2093
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 2: Triller level shit show of like, even in his best moments,

2094
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 2: he's riding around on a scooter with his leg up,

2095
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 2: giving like a ted talk on optimism in life, and

2096
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 2: then like a day later, giving tweets that look like

2097
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: they're cocaine fueled coming at people's wives and religion. And

2098
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 2: this has just been in like this, this last stretch

2099
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 2: since July when he when he lost to like that.

2100
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 2: I compared it before in the past, Luke, to like

2101
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 2: when we look back post breakup, like that year after

2102
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 2: when you were like really her and you called your

2103
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 2: ex a bunch of times and you talk bad publicly

2104
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 2: like you're like, man, I wish I could take that

2105
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 2: last year back. I wish I would have just bitten

2106
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 2: down hard and taken this like a man. They should

2107
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: have kept the social media and all microphones away from Connor. Luke,

2108
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: where is he going right now? Mentally? Because his stock

2109
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: is just I mean, it's just every day it's just

2110
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 2: going in the wrong direction.

2111
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: Luke. Two things occurred to me. One is, who knows

2112
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: what happened between them, But like you have to ask yourself,

2113
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: what would dude acting normal in public is not that hard?

2114
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a celebrity. I don't live his life.

2115
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: But I didn't see any other celebrities throwing any drinks

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Speaker 1: at anyone else at this event. This was the old

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Speaker 1: only one that I saw, and I'm sure so let me,

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Speaker 1: I mean think about this way, like Lebron James probably

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Speaker 1: But like Lebron has never ever been in trouble, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the reason for that is. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's gotten lucky a couple of times, as all

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Speaker 1: people do, including me and you from time to time

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Speaker 1: in our twenties. But the reality is, like, dude, you

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Speaker 1: don't think people have said fucked up shit to him personally,

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Speaker 1: like when he was out somewhere tried to test him

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Speaker 1: or something. You don't think he's been in a club

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Speaker 1: and some shit went the one way and could have

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Speaker 1: gone much worse and he just avoided it. Like, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason why Connor gets in trouble because he seeks

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Speaker 1: the shit out like more than he should. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: some of it seeks him out too. Okay, it's not

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Speaker 1: his fault in that sense, but he definitely plays a

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Speaker 1: role in taking a bad circumstance and making it much

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Speaker 1: worse than it needs to be. It's the first thing

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Speaker 1: I would say. The second part I would say here

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Speaker 1: and by the way, Lebron James more famous than Connor

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Speaker 1: by a mile. The second thing i'd say BC is. Dude,

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Speaker 1: if you're a Connor McGregor fan, you got to ask

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Speaker 1: yourself a question, when was the last time he did

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Speaker 1: anything where you just had a lot of fun? And yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe there was some pre fight stuff that happened, but like,

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Speaker 1: in the totality of a McGregor experience, can you honestly

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Speaker 1: say people are having fun in the way that they

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Speaker 1: used to, like in the run up with the first

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Speaker 1: fight with Pooria or with Aldo and the world tour. Dude,

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Speaker 1: we're so fucking far from that. It seems almost unrecognizable.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying his life is easy. He has challenges.

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Speaker 1: While he does have money, he does have other pressures

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Speaker 1: and challenges that I'm sure we have a difficulty comprehending.

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Speaker 1: I get that, But at the same time, it's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: just look around at the state of things. Everything feels ugly, dark,

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Speaker 1: boring and kind of clownish. And it used to seem

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Speaker 1: a little bit clownish, but on the fun side, plus

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Speaker 1: it was backed with all of this grandeur from the

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Speaker 1: stakes being raised and the accomplishments that were happening. It's

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Speaker 1: just it seems like a distant lifetime ago.

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Speaker 2: I mean, his ego is out of it seems out

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Speaker 2: of control that he has no sense. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: you know, remember when I praised him briefly after that

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Speaker 2: third fight, said, like, you know, he's fighting manick. He's

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Speaker 2: fighting like a maniac and that might be good too,

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Speaker 2: keep alive of his career and fights that you know

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Speaker 2: he would lose if he fought more cautiously, but he's

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Speaker 2: living life that way now too. He could tell he's

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Speaker 2: he's he's uh, he's on till constantly. I mean. And

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Speaker 2: also it is a it is a close up and

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Speaker 2: you know, sobering close up to where his brand's at

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Speaker 2: that you know, machine gun. Kelly's just like nah, bra,

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Speaker 2: Like you know you could you could take a walk, dude,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't need a selfie with you. I don't

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Speaker 2: need a rub brands with you. He needs a big win, Luke.

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Speaker 2: And he's not helping himself at seemingly every single turn

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Speaker 2: since this fight. And I don't mean winning the cage,

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Speaker 2: I mean like a pr win, right he isn he

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Speaker 2: seems to be in a really bad spot, Luke. I'm

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Speaker 2: not here to to you know, follow up on the

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Speaker 2: commenters on Twitter of all this. He's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: bad ending where you know, you know he's gonna I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how far it is to a bad

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Speaker 2: you know, to quote unquote bad ending, but it seems

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Speaker 2: to not be in a good spot, Luke. And maybe

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Speaker 2: it's maybe you know, to to armchair quarterback this for

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Speaker 2: a second, the best we can. Maybe it's having difficulty,

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Speaker 2: as we talked about after that third fight against Pourier,

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Speaker 2: coming to terms with, you know, where he's at. If

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Speaker 2: you're not that same badass, does it become obviously harder

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Speaker 2: to talk yourself into believing you are. But do you

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Speaker 2: have an identity outside of the fight game? You know,

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Speaker 2: that's a sobering reality for all people when they are

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Speaker 2: forced to retire from their job. And while he's not

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Speaker 2: at that retirement point, he's at this key part where

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Speaker 2: losses and injuries have piled up and the the idea

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Speaker 2: of the you know the aura, the you know the

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01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: aura used to be enough to kick ass on its

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Speaker 2: own right, the aura is not even there anymore, Luke,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he's having trouble resurrecting that aura.

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Speaker 1: And also just just lastly, dude, like this is not

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Speaker 1: the thing that's front of mind. But if I was

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Speaker 1: healing from an injury that was, if not treated properly,

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Speaker 1: potentially the end of a career. Like if you don't

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Speaker 1: do the things you're supposed to do, this could be

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01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: a very very severe injury, right, Like this is hard

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01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: to come back from and be at all the same.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be engaging in public skill where you could

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01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: get stepped on, trampled a strong word, but like you know,

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01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 1: some big fucking dude throws you around. You have a

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Speaker 1: walking Kane. Obviously, shit is still fragile. I just wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want to be in any situation except a calm, peaceful

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Speaker 1: one to facilitate that. I don't know where his head's

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Speaker 1: at these days, man, I don't know. I still think

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Speaker 1: he's got a big win in him. I still think

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Speaker 1: he should be taken seriously. But this is just it's

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Speaker 1: just like the like, what the fuck are you doing

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01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: at this point? You know? Yeah, your odds and.

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Speaker 2: Ends Trailler would love him. It's a perfect marriage at

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Speaker 2: this point, Luke, my odds and ends are Can we

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Speaker 2: finally talk about something good in boxing? We might have something?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Even though the purse bid was delayed for all things

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Speaker 2: welterweight title WBO Terrence Crawford, the unbeating champion, against Sean

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Speaker 2: Porter Bob Aram of Top Rank. Luke, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if this was to take the attention off the the

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Speaker 2: bad juju over the whole Oscar Valdez card, but he

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01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 2: said Friday night to the media that he feels we're

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01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 2: not going to a purse bid. He plans on putting

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Speaker 2: that fight on pay per view November twentieth in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: So that would make me assume that there's been some

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Speaker 2: talks and contact between Top Rank, ESPN and Fox and

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Speaker 2: PBC and Al Hayman for some type of joint pay

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Speaker 2: per view, Luke, as much as boxing of late has

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Speaker 2: really irritated me, we do have get Ready Wilder Fury

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Speaker 2: three on October ninth, We've got Anthony Joshua Alexander Usik

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Speaker 2: to what the week before that, and if we could

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Speaker 2: get Sean Porter Terrence Crawford November twentieth, it's a good,

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Speaker 2: a strong way to end the year. So let's hope

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Speaker 2: that this is all legit and it's gonna happen. Because

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Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford, for as freaking great as he is, and

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Speaker 2: he is we need to see him against a legit,

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Speaker 2: elite welterweight. I hope that Erin Aerol Spence is gonna

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Speaker 2: bounce back and be the same guy from this eye injury.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but this will take us closer to

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Speaker 2: really finding out who's the best waltzweight in the world

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Speaker 2: in this era of Postmanny and Floyd. So let's get there,

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Speaker 2: let's let's make this happen. So I'm excited. I'm really excited.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, that's a great fight. I'm really excited

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: Should be good. All right, Well, that is it for

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Speaker 1: us today. As you guys know out there, we do

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Speaker 2: Also, I want to make an announcement here, Luke. A

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, I was enjoying its absence. But you know

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