WEBVTT - Have Republicans Jumped the Shark 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.560 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.959 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker, Folks. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.239 As I stated earlier, I am going to be on 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:27.400 vacation for the next couple of days, but never fret. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.440 I have lined up a series of very good interviews 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.800 that are tackling the breaking news of this week, which 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:41.000 is Donald Trump finally being his home being searched for 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.120 what we believe at this time, for documents that he 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.640 should not have been in possession of. Because guess what, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.320 there are documents that belong to the United States government, 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.320 to the American people. But that is what is being 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.080 stated right now. We do not know that for a fact, 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.520 but this is what I will say. Coming up in 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:06.959 today's interview is with the communications director for the Frontline, 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.800 a coalition organization that brings together a diverse coalition of 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:17.320 people who you know are part of a marginalized community, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:24.319 vulnerable communities to our ever crumbling democracy, Leslie Mapp and 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.840 I will get into a conversation about what are the 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.480 challenges that democrats are facing right now? And I say 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.760 that because there are still many challenges that we are 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.720 facing even though there have been a series of legislative 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.399 wins that we have finally seen that we haven't seen 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.319 in this country in decades. Right, and they did so 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.320 with their fifty one to fifty margin in the Senate. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:54.000 We're talking about, you know, on incredible packages like the 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.280 Inflation Reduction Act, like the Chips Package. We're looking at 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.720 things that the American people actually need. And what we 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.680 realize and what we have known here on woke a 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.120 APP is that Republicans don't give a fuck about what 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.600 it is that the American people need. They don't even 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.320 want you all to vote, right, And it isn't just 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.000 about making sure that black and brown people don't vote. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.480 It's also going to be making sure that Democrats across 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.800 the gamut are unable to vote right, that you no 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.600 longer have a voice, that this isn't a democracy. That 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:29.880 we will weaponize institutions and agencies against our political opponents 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:34.520 and foes, as evidence by Kevin McCarthy's tweet following news 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:39.040 that Donald Trump's moralago home was in fact searched by 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.440 the FBI with a lawful fucking warrant. Right. And So, 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.160 but here's the thing that we have known the Republican 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:50.120 Party has been showing its entire ass since their bullshit 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.720 Benghazi hearings that they did that came up with, guess what, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.519 absolutely fucking nothing. So while they wanted to turn around 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.680 and say that, oh, the impeachment inquiries and the Mulla report, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.040 we're all witch hunts, guess what those actually ended with 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.960 motherfucker's being indicted. Donald Trump just happened to offer up 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.079 pardons in his pardon parade that he did. But if 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.400 not for Donald Trump being pardoned, fucking a general would 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.480 be in federal fucking prison right now. I'm looking at you, 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.160 Mike Flynn, who was part of the architect and the 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.280 idea of overthrowing the government to secure Donald Trump in 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.160 the presidency for twenty twenty. You're looking at people like 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.120 Roger Stone that would be in federal prison if Donald 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.400 Trump had not offered up a pardon. Right. So, the 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.400 very idea that we continue to talk about going after 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.680 criminals as a witch hunt right when in fact there 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.960 is a pile a pile of legal evidence against them, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.840 is just absolute bullshit. But it is the ability for 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:59.280 Republicans to coalesce around lies, to coalesce around their belief 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.960 in earth to to covalesce around people like Marjorie Taylor 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:08.920 Green who are advocating a fucking sitting congresswoman advocating for violence. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.360 So when I say to you all this week that 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.599 I am concerned, right, I am not in necessarily a 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.760 celebratory mood. I think that the Department of Justice and 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.560 the FBI are moving in the right direction. But I 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.159 think that what also needs to be seen is that 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:31.200 violence is imminent because these people want it, because they 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:36.720 are stacking up their own personal arsenals right of ar 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.680 fifteens and whatever else they can get their fucking hands on, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.719 and they're just looking for the direction of Donald Trump 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.279 to tell them where to go and how to storm 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.599 the motherfucking castle now, right now, Donald Trump does not 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.240 have a place in time like he did on January 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.520 six to offer up to the people that says, go 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.920 gather here and go take these people down. But believe 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.320 you me, he they know to stand back and stand by, 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.159 They know to be on the ready for any head 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.440 nod or wink in their direction. And that should leave 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.720 us all feeling extremely fucking alarmed, right that a former 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.760 president of the United States has organized his own fucking militia, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.200 but we aren't talking about it like that. And why 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.440 is that? Because they are a bunch of fucking white 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.599 men that want to cosplay the fucking civil war, That's why, right. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.279 But if they were any other group, do you think 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.080 that these people that have been sending out tweets since 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.839 the search was announced, that they wouldn't have been picked 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:37.279 up by the FBI on suspicion of being terrorists? Oh? 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.760 I know, we don't have domestic terrorists laws in this country, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.320 but believe you me, if the people that were offering 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.680 up those tweets were people of color, trust and believe 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.720 they wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't have a 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.239 law on the books or not, they would be picked 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.719 up and considered a threat, a national security threat. But 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.640 these white folks are just allowed to be out in 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.720 these streets fucking wild, right. And that is the concern 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.880 that I have, is that are we once again not 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.400 going to see the writing on the wall, not going 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.200 to pay attention to the alarms going off, and just 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.760 ignore this until we see another January sixth, but this 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:19.400 time more death, more bloodshed. Right. 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Folks. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.520 I am very happy to be joined by Leslie Mack, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.360 who is a digital strategist and communications director for the 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.000 front Line, to talk about you know, the latest and 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.080 greatest that Democrats are doing or not doing, but also 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:33.880 with the latest development to the backdrop of big Democratic wins. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.440 And I say big Democratic wins because not a single 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.160 Republican has decided that the American people are worth fighting for, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.920 that our issues are worth fighting for. And so Leslie 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:48.520 want to start out with this breaking news all over 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.360 the place that will continue to be breaking news because 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:58.040 it's unprecedented. The FBI had issued was issued a warrant 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:02.679 to go into the home of a former president Donald Trump. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.280 We really at this point are not one hundred percent 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.320 clear as to the contents of what that warrant was 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.200 at the time of this recording. It's being speculated that 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:20.120 it is about archival documents that Donald Trump illegally took 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.839 from the White House to Mara Lago, and that they 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.320 went after his safe. Of course, there has been a 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:32.040 outcry of Republicans that this is a witch hunt, this 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.959 is unprecedented, This opens up all of these things because 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.440 they live on Earth two and believe that the only 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.440 people that should ever be investigated are Democrats and Hillary 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:45.360 Clinton's emails or Hunter Biden's laptop. I want to get 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:51.360 your initial reaction to this unprecedented news and the extraordinary 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.320 times that we find ourselves living in right now. Well, 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.840 I think one, I just want to state for the record, 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.000 I really wish I want to be back in incedented times. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:06.080 Like generally speaking, I've kind of had enough of being 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:11.840 present from time, correct, But also let's acknowledge that, yeah, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:16.440 unprecedented things are happening across the board, so we shouldn't 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.080 expect anything different when it comes to whatever the Department 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.320 of Justice is going to be doing with regard to 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:27.760 Donald Trump, because we frankly he was an unprecedented president 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:32.280 and his actions were unprecedented as well. So yeah, we 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:36.360 should expect things to be unusual because this is a 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.840 response to unusual situation. But what has struck me the 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.000 most has been the media's kind of framing. I think 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.120 Cheryl and Eiffel shared this earlier on Twitter. She was saying, like, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.400 why are all of these headlines Donald Trump says, FBI rated? 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:56.800 Why are we framing it again around his narrative, his 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.839 point of view, Even this detail about his safe is 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.439 directly from him. One. There are facts you can report, Yes, 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.120 the FBI rated Marlago, they went in there, you can 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.079 say those things, you can say, they better have comment 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.000 on it. But even seeing the framing of how the 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.360 media is framing it is already, you know, concerning to me. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.920 And as you mentioned, what little we do know is 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.800 that apparently this is related to the National Archives request 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.000 for documents that were taken out of the White House 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:30.160 by Donald Trump, presumably and allegedly, and that they've been 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.480 requesting these things back for some time and included confidential 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:37.839 and classified information. So interesting to note though, whatever they 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.280 find on this search they can utilize in any other 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.960 investigations that are ongoing. So it makes anything they find 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.800 their fair game as long as the warrant, you know, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.320 holds up and you know he wasn't there. So I 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.280 think that's the third thing I think is really important 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.959 because I feel like this positioning of like, oh, they 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:58.640 rated a president at home at it's just so histrionic 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.080 for no reason. He literally was twenty states away in 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:06.200 New York at Trump Tower. I The other thing I 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.040 thought interesting the White House is claiming they also were blindsided. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.760 They found out the same time the rest of us 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.280 found out when the news broke, which I think is 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.959 smart on the Department of Justice is part to really 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.840 kind of keep this siloed in separate, because they shouldn't 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.000 be colluding with each other around these sort of things. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.280 I think certainly, you know, the President is welcome to 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.520 have opinions about what the Department of Justice could or 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:34.760 should do. But ultimately, even getting a warrant of this 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.720 nature for you know, the home of a former president 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:43.600 means that a judge signed off that there was significant evidence. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.720 I would have had to being presented in order for that. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.800 So I'm no legal expert, but those are the things 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.480 that stuck out for me about the what's happening that 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.960 media point, and then just noting that you know, getting 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.080 this warrant was would not have been a short order, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.079 would have been a very tall bar to reach us 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.280 far as you know, validity and evidence presented in order 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.640 to get it even you know approved. You know, it's 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:14.600 funny because both of us have communications backgrounds and expertise. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.640 And I got to tell you that as I was 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.360 watching the news break, I was screaming at my TV 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.439 behind me, as one does in these unprecedented times, because 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.760 I listen to every pundit come on and reiterate Donald 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.040 Trump's talking points, and I'm like, have we not, like, 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.000 my fucking god, have we not learned anything from twenty sixteen, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.719 from twenty twenty that this man, if he is, if 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.120 he is unremarkable in so many other areas, that the 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.160 place that he shines is in controlling the media, is 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.120 in setting the tone in the narrative and the idea 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.000 that it is just being followed up that even the 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.720 chirns are saying, you know, Trump says his place was raided, 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.680 and it's just like, dude, they didn't go in with 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:05.920 their FBI windbreakers and guns blazing and throwing people on 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.679 the ground as they have been known to do. Right 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:14.360 they you know, this was a legal search to your point, 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.439 I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm just like, why 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.760 why do you believe? I guess I'll ask this, why 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.640 do you think is it just laziness that the media 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.640 continues to follow this narrative or do you think that 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.200 it's something else. I think it's where they get the 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.240 clicks from. And so we we are in a stage 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:40.040 where media, you know, is beholden to grabbing folks attention, 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.280 grabbing people in a really specific way, and so it 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:49.680 it you know, leads better or certainly would be more 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.200 offensive inflammatory to frame it the way they're framing because 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.320 they know people like us are gonna push back on this, 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.920 and people that are I'm supportive of forty five are 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.920 going to be you know, buoyed by you know, this 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.200 mouthpiece that they're giving Tom to him. And so, you know, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.520 that's where I think that the murkiness starts to come 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.080 in with the media, because the expectation is that they're 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.600 unbiased and that they're reporting correctly, when in reality, you know, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.160 the bias comes in through capitalism, and the bias comes 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.800 in through the metrics that are utilized to you know, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.880 justify or not justify investment in media and media personalities. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.680 So that's the thing I think that that I noted. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.280 And then you know, also, yes, certainly they should have 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.040 learned this in twenty sixteen, should have learned in twenty twenty. 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.560 But I always go back to two thousand and five 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.320 one Stephen Colbert coined truthiness and it was the word 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.280 of the year that year, as like this this tipping 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:53.280 point in media around truth around actually like naming a 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:59.560 thing as fact and also reporting statements from biased individuals 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.840 as facts, which is what we we're seeing here because 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.680 honestly we don't. Trump says that everything that comes after 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.680 that is here say, everything that comes after that is 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.880 coming from a not trust worthy source of information, but 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.760 it's not presented as such. So you know, we talk 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.280 about this when we talk about the media using police, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.240 you know, statements and other institutional statements. As you know, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.880 well they've they've got this is the official word, but 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.360 it's how official is it? So it's not And you know, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.920 and and the reality is is that any time that 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.000 there is a warrant that is put out, that is issued. 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.320 That warrant is then left with the person who's home 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:43.320 or office or place was searched. And so Donald Trump 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.840 has access to that warrant. So if they're in fact, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.320 was any type of nefarious or foul play, release the 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.520 warrant right and then the public will be able to 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.400 make a decision. No, you can do that if you 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.760 want to, right. So you know, I want to switch 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.680 gear years and talk about Democrats and where we are 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:09.200 right now as we make the slow march to midterm elections. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.760 I have, like you, have been called out on Twitter 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:20.200 for daring, daring to air the fact that you know, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:25.080 Democrats up until recently hadn't been doing much right, hadn't 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.760 been offering the American people anything other than the fact 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:33.440 of reiterating that this Republican Party is a viable political 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.320 party and not a white supremaist cult. Right, have been 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.160 offering up things like rational, they were rational Republicans left, 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.800 And I'm like, where you know where I'm looking and 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.160 you know, and I have been told like you were 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.880 that by virtue of just lifting up the obvious that 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.680 we are going to be the reasons why Democrats lose 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.640 in midterms. It has nothing to do. Wouldn't have had 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.880 anything to do with them not offering policy or offering 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.040 or painting the picture of who the enemy of democracy 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.560 actually is. It will be the tweets about it. So 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.760 I just wanted, you know, before we dig in, like, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.920 how does that make sense? I mean, it's it's it's 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.959 wild to me for a number of reasons. One because 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.199 the folks like you and me are the ones that 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.200 got this dude in the White House in the first place, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.720 worked very hard to do so to turn out the 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.679 vote in twenty twenty, both for the general election and 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:31.520 for the Georgia runoff, and it was across mostly progressive 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.600 movement spaces where we saw, you know, the uptick in 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.320 Black voters, the uptick and Indigenous voters, the optic and 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.399 Latin X voters, which made the difference in all of 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.439 the swing states that Biden was able to win, and 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.320 certainly in Georgia, where I cannot you know the amount 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.960 of hands and attention and money and resources that poured 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.080 into Georgia after the election, which was really difficult for 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.479 folks because it was a quick turnaround to kind of 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.480 switch gears and redo a lot of the work that 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.840 was already done for the general election. So to hear, 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:07.160 you know, folks like us be vilified for one saying 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.840 the obvious and two you know, I've always been clear 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.640 that my vote is not some sort of you know, 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.920 blank check that you don't get to cash in when 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.439 I go into the ballot box. No, no, no, you, 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.679 It's actually an I owe you. You owe me a 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.880 response to the things that me are meaningful to me, 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:30.600 and as an organizer, especially one that works a lot 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.679 with grassroots organizers, when I'm voting, I always know i'm 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.639 voting for who is going to be my opponent around 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.560 the most progressive and most you know people focus policies 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.240 that I want to support. So yeah, the entire framing 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.560 of twenty twenty was, yeah, we'll vote for you and 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:52.040 also expect us. So here we are. There are many 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:53.919 things that will keep people from the polls, but my 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:58.879 tweets are definitely not one of them. You sure. Also, 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.440 I've never told anybody not to vote, So that's that's 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.480 the real crux of the thing, is like you'll never 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.520 You can search all of my tweets from twenty two 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.280 thousand and eight, when I joined the platform. So now 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.280 you will never ever have seen me say don't vote. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:17.960 I've certainly said I understand why people why people don't vote. 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:23.000 I have empathy. I completely understand the rationale. I get it, 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.639 and I think it's really important that we acknowledge those things. 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.800 It's impassable to do organizing work without acknowledging the realities 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.480 that people are coming into UM spaces with and the 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.880 very valid perspectives and conclusions that they should be able 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:42.000 to draw UM. And that's the real crux of things. 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.240 I want, I want more. I'm always gonna want more. 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.960 I should want more. So should you, So should everybody listening. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.760 We should all be demanding more, because that's our role 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.520 in this entire process as the people, is to continue 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.919 to push, to continue to demand more for our lives 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.280 so that we're not just surviving, we're thriving. And more importantly, 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:07.639 we are in a significant downswing across the board we have. 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.679 No matter how much they want to tout these unemployment numbers, 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:16.000 inflation is driving costs up. Salaries are not moving at 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.520 the rate that they should be. In haven't for a 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:22.320 really long time. Our minimum wage situation is a joke. 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:27.040 Mass incarceration continues to run rampantly through our communities. You know, 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.120 all of these things are still issues on top of 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.119 a crashing housing market and a housing crisis the likes 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.640 of which we haven't seen yet. My husband was talking 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.600 to me this morning about like, oh, do I think 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.720 this looming crash is going to be worse than two 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.840 thousand and eight? And I really said to him, I said, 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.119 you know, we did. We weren't coming off of a 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.760 pandemic in two thousand and eight. We weren't dealing with 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.800 the scope of housing crisis that we're dealing with, because 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.600 that was not when we had corporate interest buying in 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.640 a in the residential housing market, which is what we're 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:03.240 seeing now, which is really a big problem. We also 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.320 were not coming off of four years of like like 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.240 blatant fascism um in the White House and throughout all 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.720 of our institutions, and we weren't dealing with things like 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.639 food shortages and um, you know, so many fundamental things. 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.320 So yeah, I don't. I don't know why everybody isn't 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.560 being loud. That's really where I'm at with it, Like, 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.280 if not now when I don't, I don't get it. 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.520 What are we gonna what else do we need to see? 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.000 Given all spinning too fast at this point. At some 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.280 point we got a girl. I mean I was like, what, 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.640 n I just had this because when that news came out, 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.160 I think I just screamed like like just like wait 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.879 what like oh? And by the way, you know that 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.399 time warp that you feel like you're living in and 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.440 and nothing really makes sense and time is a construct. Oh, 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.720 by the way, the Earth is spinning faster. But you know, 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.600 don't be alarmed. I guess that's about It's cool. Don't 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:01.119 worry about it. Totally fine. Ask the dinosaurs. You know. 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.000 The question that I have for you is all of 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.600 the things that you listed out just now, in terms 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:10.720 of answering your husband's question, would things are would this 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.879 crisis be worse? Obviously the answer is yes, right, because 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:19.440 we have so many other compacted crises that obviously, um, 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:23.119 things would be worse. The thing that I'm asking, though, 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:28.040 is that with the Inflation Reduction Act that is going 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.360 to be signed with the Chips Act that was just 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.640 that was just signed into law, with these wins right 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:39.120 that Democrats are are making and have been making in 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.240 the last couple of weeks, it's been the best uh, 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:48.840 probably week of Biden's presidency ever, right and right, and 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.600 he had COVID and uh and his numbers right, his 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:56.359 polling numbers are in the toilet um And so do 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.840 you think that these wins then, even though because I'll 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.240 get to Cinema and Mansion my two least favorite people, 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:09.840 do you think that these wins, though, match up against 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.960 all of the things that are still coming our way? 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.480 Do you think that the American people will see this 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:19.360 as Democrats are working for us and so I'm showing 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.000 up in midterms in the way that Kansas just showed 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:27.760 up and said no to the overturning of abortion access 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.480 in their state. Oh my gosh. One. I think that 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:35.160