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Speaker 1: It's time to beat. Oh yeah, it's Friday. It's time

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Speaker 1: Get fired up. It's Friday, November one, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: one day out from UFC Edmonton, and you're looking at

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Speaker 1: but my name is Brian Campbell, the American Alpha. Thank

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Speaker 1: from DC with love, one of the best analysts that

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Speaker 1: ever stepped in front of a microphone. It is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: And Luke, we all know from following your work that

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Speaker 1: you enter this show with a heavy heart. But war Barbius,

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Speaker 3: Thanks. If everyone looking for an update, I don't have much.

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Speaker 3: I just got off the phone with the Animal hospital.

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Speaker 3: Barbius is still alive. I don't know for how much longer.

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Speaker 3: They're trying more interventions to see what they can do.

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Speaker 3: I'll get an update in the afternoon. But as I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the toughest spot to be in. We all

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Speaker 1: there as well well. As long as you're willing, Luke

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Speaker 1: for UFC three ten and oh by the way at

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Speaker 1: noon Easter, and welcome in former UFC Middleweight Champion and

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Speaker 1: one Championship Vice President the Ace Rich Franklin. Luke, do

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Speaker 3: He seems friendly, but I don't know if that's in

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Speaker 1: Uh John Jones blocked me on Instagram, so I was

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Speaker 3: You know what. And I'm sure he voted for someone

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Speaker 1: It's very Yeah, so I've joined your club.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was just wondering what his forties were

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Speaker 3: So bony, no, I am somehow not blocked.

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Speaker 1: Not only did I do that? Spoiler alert, Jay revealed

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Speaker 3: I'm a Yankee fan. Unfortunately. Okay, dude, how did it

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Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't say I'm fired up as ever.

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Speaker 2: It's not the greatest card, but it's a solid card.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's better than an Apex card I did.

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Speaker 1: Colby's lost three of his last five. He's thirty six

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Speaker 3: know if you saw that.

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Speaker 1: I did not see that, but I do agree with

434
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Speaker 1: we're back in the in the hamster wheel of like,

435
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Speaker 1: why do we always have to talk about Connor when

436
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Speaker 1: not only is he not fighting? Did you see he

437
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Speaker 1: tease another retirement in a response to a fan the

438
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Speaker 1: other day? So it's just like.

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Speaker 3: What I mean honestly, Yeah, dude, I don't understand the

440
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Speaker 3: point of continuing to fight once you've accomplished what fighting

441
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Speaker 3: is supposed to do for your life. Yes, if fighting

442
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Speaker 3: does for your life, what you what it's supposed to do,

443
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Speaker 3: and you re that stage, you're done? Like that's it. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 3: especially an MMA where injury and brutal and like, ugh,

445
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Speaker 3: forget it.

446
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Speaker 1: Well, let's advance to the sexier side of this whole

447
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Speaker 1: conversation regarding UFC three ten December seventh, Las Vegas. That's

448
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Speaker 1: topic number two. How about this? You need a main

449
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Speaker 1: event at the last minute, who are you gonna call? Poeton?

450
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Speaker 1: Alex Pereira, the light heavyweight champion and Magomed and Caliev,

451
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Speaker 1: the number one contender fresh off that victory against Alexander Rakich,

452
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Speaker 1: have both shown interest in separate social media tweets with emojis.

453
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Speaker 1: I think we can show that right now. You see

454
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Speaker 1: the phone emoji from Pereira. You see the response from

455
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Speaker 1: an Caliav at Perrera with the phone emoji, and Caliav

456
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Speaker 1: would substantly post another one that had a phone emoji

457
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Speaker 1: and a crown emoji next to it. So Mma Mania,

458
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Speaker 1: for whatever that to worth, is already reporting that UFC

459
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Speaker 1: has reached out to Perera about this possibility of a

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Speaker 1: short notice return. Let me remind you, Pereira said a

461
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Speaker 1: UFC record defending his light heavyweight title three times in

462
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Speaker 1: a one hundred and seventy five day span. Then, after

463
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Speaker 1: his most recent victory over Khalil Rowntree Junior spoke out

464
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Speaker 1: about how tough the training camp was, how injured he was,

465
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Speaker 1: which is understandable on that kind of short turnaround. Luke Thomas,

466
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Speaker 1: is this realistic to you could poton come out of

467
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Speaker 1: the bullpen one more time and save another event with

468
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Speaker 1: a fourth title defense this year, only this time against

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Speaker 1: the toughest guy on paper available.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is to me, the one that makes it

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Speaker 3: radically different. Yes, short notice is by itself very very

472
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Speaker 3: difficult to do. But then on top of it, all

473
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Speaker 3: respect to Khlil Rowntree, who was a tough guy and

474
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Speaker 3: gave Poetan a tough fight. We all saw it, make

475
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Speaker 3: no mistake about it. He performed very, very ably. But

476
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Speaker 3: on Calijev is the number one guy in that division,

477
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Speaker 3: and Yuri Prahatchka, who I know is a former champ

478
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Speaker 3: and defend punches. Like to me, that's a much like

479
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Speaker 3: I say, easier fight, but it's a very different kind

480
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Speaker 3: of fight in terms of what you're up against. And

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Speaker 3: one of the better parts about it is the guy

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Speaker 3: blocks punches with his face. And then in the case

483
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Speaker 3: of Jamal Hall, remember he was just coming back from surgery,

484
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Speaker 3: so there were some questions about his fitness or readiness

485
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Speaker 3: in that fight. Well, dude, on Cali have just had

486
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Speaker 3: a fight, you know last week or whatever, performed very

487
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Speaker 3: ably himself, did not take a ton of damage. Is

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Speaker 3: the consensus number one guy. And you don't think he's

489
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Speaker 3: as good of a striker as Poeton, but he can strike,

490
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Speaker 3: He in theory, can wrestle. He's got a ton of experience.

491
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Speaker 3: You're gonna fill in on short notice for what the

492
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Speaker 3: second or even third time this year against the number

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Speaker 3: one contender. I mean it didn't happen every quarter because

494
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Speaker 3: April and June were in the same quarter. So he

495
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Speaker 3: had two in quarter two, then he had another one

496
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Speaker 3: in quarter three. He would have a fourth one in

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Speaker 3: quarter four. I mean, this is what I mean, dude.

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Speaker 3: If the UFC doesn't have Alex Padeda in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: and I'm being dead serious about this, how bad of

500
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Speaker 3: a year do they have? Right, they're still going to

501
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: make money. Right, They're still going to put on events.

502
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Speaker 3: I don't mean it in that sense, but to the

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Speaker 3: extent you've had high water marks, they've basically come from

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Speaker 3: two three guys, Max Holloway at three hundred obviously, Poton

505
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Speaker 3: at three hundred, Poton at three oh three, and three

506
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Speaker 3: oh seven, and then you had what was it two

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Speaker 3: ninety eight. I guess that Ilia fought Vulk in February

508
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Speaker 3: whatever that was nine, whatever the number was, and then

509
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Speaker 3: three oho eight. It's been like Max, Ilia and Pooton Poton.

510
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Speaker 3: If you get to the point a fourth time, dude,

511
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Speaker 3: the year without Pooton is unrecognizable, unrecognizable without what he

512
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Speaker 3: has contributed. You add in a fourth time doing that

513
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Speaker 3: under less than I far less than idle conditions against

514
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Speaker 3: the consensus number one guy. Holy shit, man.

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Speaker 1: It's not just it's not just four times this calendar year.

516
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Speaker 1: If you go back twelve months from now, one year ago,

517
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Speaker 1: you'd get to November, which is when Poton bailed out

518
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: the UFC at MSG, when John Jones got hurt and

519
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: the Steepe fight couldn't happen. Then let's not forget he

520
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: was a relative last minute pick for that UFC three

521
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Speaker 1: hundred main event. Bail Mount Connor at International Fight Week

522
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Speaker 1: comes back to headlining in between Salt Lake City pay

523
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Speaker 1: per view that needed him. If he comes back now

524
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, right, this, this sport was built

525
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Speaker 1: upon the idea of what we now call throwback warriors,

526
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Speaker 1: guys who would fight three four times in one night

527
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Speaker 1: under the original tournament format. Seriously, Luke, what would it

528
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Speaker 1: say about this man in twenty twenty four, all these

529
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Speaker 1: years later, advanced into his late thirties, not even three

530
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Speaker 1: full years in the organization. If he comes back, forget

531
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Speaker 1: wins and losses, here just physically shows up and bails

532
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: them out again. He's the ultimate throwback. There's no comparison

533
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Speaker 1: there already was no compare into the unique career he's

534
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Speaker 1: having in that short of a time and how he's

535
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Speaker 1: transitioned and just taken to the sport. But he's not like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'll come back, but only if I can fight some

537
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Speaker 1: aging middleweight who's blown up. He's like, yeah, I'll fight

538
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: ankliav In theory, that's what we think in theory. Dude,

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Speaker 1: How do you put that into words, not just what

540
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: that means to the UFC, but what that guy's made of, dude.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we all talk about how he's

542
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: got the resemblance to like the Easter island Stone figures,

543
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Speaker 3: But to me, he's more iron Man Tony Stark than

544
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Speaker 3: anything else. He's a fucking iron man. He comes back,

545
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: he's already iron man, right, But you come back a

546
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Speaker 3: fourth time. And I know when I say fourth time,

547
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Speaker 3: I mean just within twenty twenty four, because I realized

548
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Speaker 3: that in November two ninety five. He built him out

549
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: to the point that you raised. But this is the

550
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Speaker 3: point I want to make to me, it's not a

551
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Speaker 3: coincidence that, like when the UFC needed to bring Izzy

552
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: back on a continuous calendar, it wasn't this insane, but

553
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: you know, keeping him very very busy, he was able

554
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Speaker 3: to do it. And here you have Poeton doing the

555
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 3: same thing. I mean, I'm not a kickboxing expert by

556
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: any stretch. Is probably the weakest part of my combat

557
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: sports knowledge, but one thing I have picked up from

558
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: that is that one kickboxing is a rematch sport. You

559
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: see it all the time, and obviously these one night

560
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: tournaments are pretty big in kickboxing as well. The point

561
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to raise is the guys who can excel

562
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Speaker 3: in kickboxing, Yes, they have to have a lot of ability,

563
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Speaker 3: but they have to have a lot of natural durability

564
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: as well. They have to be able to make quick

565
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: turnarounds in order to compete under the model that the

566
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: sport has traditionally adopted, at least in certain ways it

567
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: has adopted. And so the guys who can just be

568
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: ready for the guys who can be fit, the guys

569
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Speaker 3: who aren't super limited, they don't get injured a lot,

570
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: and to the extent they get injured, they're not necessarily

571
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Speaker 3: as hampered by it as other people. Those guys, among

572
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: other reasons, can excel in kickboxing. You take two of

573
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: those guys and you bring them to MMA. Now we're

574
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: talking about poets on and it serves their interest so

575
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 3: well in a sport where all these other guys get

576
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: injured and the UFC has so many events and they

577
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: need someone who can just bring that big fight feel

578
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: in an instant and this one b the BC. It's

579
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Speaker 3: not again the clear Roundtry one was not booked last minute,

580
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: but number one contender for the versus the champion. It

581
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: doesn't get better at two o five than that. Like

582
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: that's I mean, I guess you could do, like you know,

583
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: Drick is coming up, but in terms of like just

584
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Speaker 3: two o five guys versus two o five guys, that's

585
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Speaker 3: what you're looking for for him to make that turnaround

586
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: in that kind of way against this opponent. And you know,

587
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 3: let's just imagine a scenario where he chao's him inside

588
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: the distance. Jesus Christ, you're just talking about a guy that,

589
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: to your point, he's not a throwback fighter. He's a

590
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: fucking unicorn's.

591
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Speaker 1: Is And you brought up the name of Jesus who

592
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: never tapped. By the way, I want to remind you

593
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: for that, but I also want to say this, Luke,

594
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: for all the fun we had debating the Fighter of

595
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: the Year debate and how large your erection for Iliot

596
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Taporia has been and whether it's actually reached past the

597
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: the state and country lines of Georgia. And I'm not

598
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: talking about Atlanta or a big chicken. If goes in

599
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: there fights Ankliev defends his title in any form, short

600
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: of a controversial decision or an injury, He's the Fighter

601
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Speaker 1: of the Year. I don't think you can argue that,

602
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: but I want to one up it. Imagine the scenario

603
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: you just said. He goes in there and he handles

604
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Speaker 1: ankliv whether that means knockout or clear decision? Is he

605
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: not the pound for pound king right now? Like do

606
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: we say Islam, congrats on everything, But you only fought

607
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: once this year. This mffort just fought four times, mostly

608
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: all on short notice, sometimes when injured. That might be

609
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: well good enough for pound for pound King where I

610
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: come from, because who the hell's doing that? I don't

611
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: care how weak the division is. Who's doing that?

612
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: Well, how weak the division is makes it more doable.

613
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I try to make this point, like coming

614
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: back against pound for pound guys. The last guy we

615
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: saw to try to do that was Vulcan coming back

616
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: against pound for pound guy Islam Makachev, and Vulk himself

617
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: is a pound for pound guy and got wiped out,

618
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: which tells you trying to come back and fight pound

619
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: for pound guys when you're coming in on short notice

620
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: is extremely difficult to do, even when you're a pound

621
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Speaker 3: for pound guy yourself. I hope folks really understand the

622
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: fucking difference there. However, I will finally grant that there's

623
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Speaker 3: a difference here. If Poeton comes back and fills in

624
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Speaker 3: at UFC three ten fights on callive and to your point,

625
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: you know, wins where it's not like some bullshit injury

626
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: or you know the judges got it wrong or so,

627
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Speaker 3: you know, something like where it's just clearly Poeton doing

628
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: pooton things. Yes, that would be enough for me to

629
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Speaker 3: give him Fighter of the Year. I think at that

630
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Speaker 3: point you're taking on the again. It's not just some

631
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Speaker 3: fucking random guy at two of five that they're just

632
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: shoving to the front of the line. It's the consensus

633
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: number one contender who has been the consensus number one

634
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: contender for quite some time at this point, reaffirmed that

635
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: status most recently, like if there was any question about

636
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: whether he still held it, you come back on short notice,

637
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: you fight four times, several times in several times on

638
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: short notice, and again if you polish him off inside

639
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: the distance, then there's no denying that's your fighter of

640
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: the year. It's simply incontestable at that point. However, I

641
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: want to make a point. It's not because he did

642
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: the UFC solids. You're gauging what they accomplished inside the

643
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: cage in a calendar year that many times going up,

644
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: climbing up hill and then just shining at the top

645
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: of it. And you do that against on Calive in

646
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, that's your guy. I'll have it.

647
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: Pay that man his money, give him all the milk

648
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: boy bags, please, Data, This is your guy, as great

649
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: as Taporia is. And I want to pour you against

650
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Mahachev like a like something serious, even though I don't

651
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: think the fan base agrees with me. Make poetson your king, Luke.

652
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: I've got one more Poeton related scenario that I saw

653
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: fans posit on X. It's crazy, but I want to

654
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: get your thoughts. What if Dana calls up John and

655
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: Stepe right now and says, look, be real with me,

656
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: forget about negotiating for the future. Are you mffers retiring

657
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: or not? After MSG? And let's say they both ultimately reveal. Yeah,

658
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: John says, I blocked BC on Instagram. He deserved it,

659
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: but I'm not willing to fight Aspinall. What do you

660
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: think about UFC booking Poeton versus Aspirinaal for the vacant

661
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: heavyweight Championship at UFC three ten.

662
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard that.

663
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: It's wild. That's that's that's a video games.

664
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: Well is it vacant? Okay? So hold on, no, no, no,

665
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be vacant because if John vacates it, the

666
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: interim champion assumes that role you moved. Like remember in boxing,

667
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: we call them email champs because you get an email

668
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: from the sanctioning body that you've moved into that role.

669
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: What about that idea?

670
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: So it would be champion Aspinall versus Poeton UFC three ten.

671
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I really

672
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: don't hate it. I don't know, but I don't hate it.

673
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you something like that. I feel like you gotta

674
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: build or does that not match? Seriously? Does that not

675
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: matter anymore? The idea that we the old school pay

676
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: per view model, that we need four or five months

677
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: to properly build a fight.

678
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: The UFC has trained the fan base to care about

679
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: that less. What I would say is the better you

680
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: promote a fight, the better it does. The UFC is

681
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: somewhat insulated from having to do that by virtue of

682
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: the way they have constructed their business, but it will

683
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: always be the case that the better and longer you

684
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: promote a fight, not just longer, but you know again,

685
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: you promote it well, and the more time you put

686
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: into it, the better it will do. However, do they

687
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 3: the question you asked was do they need to do that? No,

688
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: they don't need to do that, So for that reason,

689
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: not a bad call either. And by the way, Poeton

690
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: doesn't have to cut wait for that one, like that's

691
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: a that's an interesting one to me.

692
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is wildly interesting. Reminder, folks, we have Rich

693
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Franklin twelve Eastern coming up in this show. We're talking

694
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: about fights that are fantasy video game ones. Let's get

695
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: into the real ones. Top number three. It goes down

696
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: this Saturday, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. It's called up there these days.

697
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: I saw Bronstetter on the scene. We got UFC Edmonton

698
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: and a really good flyweight main event. Originally it was

699
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: gonna be Aaron Blanchfield and rosnami Unis. That's been bumped

700
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: to the comain still five rounds, however, But in the

701
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: main event we get former champion Brandon Moreno coming in

702
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: as a minus one seventy five betting favorite according to DraftKings,

703
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: against Emir Albasi at plus one four or five. Luke,

704
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm not hearing a ton of buzz around this fight.

705
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: But this is you see it by the odds, you

706
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: know it by their reputations. This is a very interesting

707
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: and seemingly very competitive fight on paper. That's gonna mean

708
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: a lot in that larger flyweight title picture.

709
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you read the odds. Let

710
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 3: me read the odds to you from our friends over

711
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: at draft Case.

712
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: I just did seven seconds ago, but.

713
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 3: You was here. I didn't hear what were they.

714
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: They were as the last time I.

715
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 3: T Randon Morna minus one seventy five Amir al Bosi

716
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: plus one forty five. The thing is this. Albosi's been

717
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: off for a while. I think some people are still

718
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: kind of sore about him beating Kay car France. When

719
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: you look at that at you know, that's a weird fight, dude.

720
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: Statistically speaking, Kai car France outstruck him almost two to

721
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: one in significant strikes and only gave up two takedowns

722
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: out of nine attempts and only one round. Can you

723
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: really say he was able to control the round with takedowns,

724
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: So it's like, how the hell did he win? It

725
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: is controversial. I sort of understand that, And remember he's

726
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: been out for a little while too, because he had

727
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: some piatic issues I believe on top of that, Plus

728
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Moreno has been through war after war after war and

729
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: maybe didn't exactly look like himself. Also, it's in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

730
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: It's not in the I'm not going to call it

731
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere, but it's not exactly the middle

732
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: of somewhere. It's just a place. Shouts to Canada. They're

733
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 3: nice people, great country. I love it. But you know

734
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, they're not They're not in Vegas,

735
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: they're not in New York City, they're not in Los Angeles.

736
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: They're not even in Toronto, They're they're in sort of

737
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: one of the sort of mid tier cities. So for

738
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: all those reasons, you know, it's did you see by

739
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: the way, that do we have the pictures of the

740
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: face offs of all or anything like that.

741
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe we have that. We do, though, we

742
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: can get into deeper about what Albasi's up against. Despite

743
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: having won all five UFC fights, and despite having riding

744
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: a six fight win streak, he's got that neck issue

745
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: which was damn near fatal. Luke. We caught up with

746
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: Shaquille Majori of CBS Sports on the Shack MMA channel,

747
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: and here's what he said, listen to the details here.

748
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: By a coincidence, I had a harra monent. Sometimes I

749
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 5: have a horrram morning a training. So one of these

750
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 5: days I was actually training with Javid Basharat and I

751
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: couldn't finish that twhom in a round. I think I

752
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 5: was going with Julian Rossa and Javid Basharat like just

753
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: some cage wrestling, some normal staff and I felt like,

754
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: I'm like, I felt like I'm gonna die him. There's

755
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 5: no way I get this tired from two minutes grappling.

756
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: So when I go see out and I look at

757
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 5: my heart rate on the phone, it says two thirty nine.

758
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 4: So I'm there.

759
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 5: I'm trying to fix it. You know, I'm thinking, now

760
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 5: it must be something wrong with the heart rate monitor

761
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: because I've never seen such a high number on myself,

762
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 5: like I would get up on an intense session to

763
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: one ninety five, one ninety four, like that's like the

764
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: top one. But so after I saw that and I

765
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: tried to bring it down, it wouldn't go down. And

766
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 5: I'm still feeling now I have to because I'm breathing heavy.

767
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: So I was at the PI. So when I asked them,

768
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: the staff at the PI was they were like, hey,

769
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: be quiet, laid down, try to Breathe took them like

770
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: probably twenty five minutes just to get my heart rate

771
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 5: down to one eighty and then even go all the

772
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 5: way down. And after a few tests they found out

773
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 5: that I have this issue which is super ventricle tacharidia

774
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 5: I think they call it. I just know that Christiano

775
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: Ronaldo had the same thing, and they gave me some

776
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: hope that even if Christiano Ronaldez bang on the highest level,

777
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: he also like had this, but yeah, we did the

778
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 5: heart surgery.

779
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

780
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: But if Christiano Ronaldo jumped off a bridge, does that

781
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: mean you should to Luke he went through hell to

782
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: get back.

783
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: For this fight. Yeah. Also, Christiano Ronaldo has access to

784
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: the best kind of medical care, legal and illegal on

785
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: the fucking planet Earth. Like I don't know if I

786
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: don't know if Emir al Bosi does. Also, I was

787
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: just gonna say, did just the face offs look like

788
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: they took place in a van down by the river?

789
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: Yes, it looks like that's the Remember in the Wire

790
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: when the when they would go down by like the

791
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: docks by the water and have a drink at the

792
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: end of the night. It looked like they were down

793
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: there by the way.

794
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 3: I'm the Wire season two bitch back to the docks, right,

795
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: That's that's a that's Do you never heard of Reup Gang?

796
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: You ever heard of them?

797
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: No? I have not, but I am I've been fighting

798
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: the battle that season two is actually the best Wire

799
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: season And people want to kill me over that take,

800
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: but it's true, Luke, it is.

801
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: I just want to chime in to say I love

802
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 2: Reap Gang and I've seen them in answered twice.

803
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: Luke, have you really did you see him?

804
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: I love pushing tea both in Buffalo.

805
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: They were too in Buffalo.

806
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because I went to school in Buffalo, So

807
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: this is like twenty tenish, like.

808
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Where'd you go to college? No, cita buff State?

809
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: Shout out, what's the mascot of buff State Bengals? Nobody

810
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: could have been.

811
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Buffalo's That would have been more than fine

812
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: with me. But all right, well, Luke, not only is

813
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: al Bosi going through physical hell, but Moreno took a

814
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: nine month layoff, which for him is the equivalent to

815
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: like two years. Both guys have a lot of questions

816
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: coming in. How concerned are you for all Bozzi after

817
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: hearing that video and what he went through?

818
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: Well, pretty concerned because what he went through is terrible

819
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: and obviously, like, what are we to say about how

820
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: ready he is for a comeback? I have no clue,

821
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: we have no way of knowing. I just have no idea.

822
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: What I will say is he is always five round ready,

823
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: and he fought five rounds against k But what you

824
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: notice from Albozi is he has very what I would

825
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: call economical offense, and I think part of the reason

826
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: why he was able to beat kuy Car France is

827
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 3: because he was again statistically outlanded almost two to one. Basically, however,

828
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: the punches that he did land seemed to have more

829
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: of an effect. When he went for something it was

830
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: more memorable. It wasn't as often, it wasn't nearly as often,

831
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: but he just finds a way to make an impact. So,

832
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sort of kind of trying to tie

833
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: together two things that aren't necessarily all that related. I'm

834
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: just pointing out it'd be one thing if he had

835
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: this really debilitating condition and then he had like a

836
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: Morob style right where it's just labor, labor, labor, labor, labor.

837
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: That's not what he does. He more picks his offense

838
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: very He's got very good fight IQ, he's got well

839
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: rounded ability, but he's very selective about what he does. So,

840
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: assuming he's made a full recovery, the style of fighting

841
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: that he employs is not so labor intensive that it

842
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: makes me especially worried. But again, it's just really hard

843
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: to know because what he went through is pretty serious actually.

844
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, what these guys go through physically and mentally

845
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: for this sport is insane in general, and then to

846
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: see them climb hills like this. I want to ask

847
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: you the flip side of your concern level about Moreno.

848
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Thirty years old, lost three of his last five and

849
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: his last two, but all of those have been either

850
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: championship fights or against championship level competition. And even in

851
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: that last fight against Brandon Royvall a split decision loss

852
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: over five rounds, he just looked a little off, a

853
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: little bit flat at times. Moreno was vocal this week

854
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: in saying that not only did he really need this layoff,

855
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: he really needed to almost kind of divorce himself mentally

856
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: from the pressures he used to have as champion, as

857
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: the face of this division, which he feels to some

858
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: degree led to some level of burnout. Are you expecting

859
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: after this nine month layoff on a losing streak, You know,

860
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: pressure of course to keep pace in the title picture.

861
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: But it did seem interviews I've seen that Morenos almost

862
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: seems kind of rebirthed here. I like him at minus

863
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: one seventy five odds, is the favorite. How are you

864
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: feeling about Moreno entering this fight?

865
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: Moreno has beaten better guys. I mean they both have

866
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: wins over KK France, but and France was winning that

867
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: one as well, but then he got stopped with a

868
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: bodykick by Brandon Moreno. I mean, here's the thing that

869
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: kind of occurred to me. I went back and I

870
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: watched that Royval fight. To your point, BC, it's not

871
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: like Moreno fought bad. I didn't go back and watch that.

872
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he looks like shit. He didn't.

873
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: He didn't look that bad. But then when you watch

874
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: like some of the Figaredo fights, there was a certain

875
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: fire that was missing a little bit. There was just

876
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: a little bit extra oomph that was gone, and that

877
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: used to be the difference maker for him. And I

878
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: thought that those wars he had with with Figuredo, like,

879
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how anyone and then Pantoja

880
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 3: as well, like I don't know how you can recover

881
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: from that very easily. So taking that Roival fight, to me,

882
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: was kind of risky. I don't see it as in

883
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: any way bad that he took this time off. In fact,

884
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: I think it can only be good. The one thing

885
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: I will say, though, is just because he took the

886
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 3: time off doesn't mean he's all the way back in fact,

887
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: from layoffs like this, even when they're needed, like Okay,

888
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: the right thing to do is take time off, but

889
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: you can still come back and still be a little flat.

890
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: It can take another fight or two before someone really

891
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: gets that the same kind of competitive spirit that they

892
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: once had after these really, really difficult contests. So I'm

893
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: glad he took it. I think it can only help him,

894
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean he's all the way turned the

895
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: corner from some of the problems he was having previously.

896
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. When we look at

897
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: this fight, I feel like we're gonna see a five

898
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: rounder here. I feel like we're set up for that.

899
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: But if somebody's got bigger finishing potential, do you think

900
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: it's Moreno in this point or do you like al

901
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: Bossi's ability on the ground.

902
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: Al Bossi nearly finished KKF with a He's got some

903
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 3: finishing ability, But for sure it's Brandon Moreno. Brandon Moreno

904
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: can do so many different things. He's historically been a

905
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: little bit more of a risk taker, which means he

906
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: might have a higher probability of finishing, but he might

907
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: also have a higher probability of having to fight out

908
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: of bad positions and or give up some rounds. But

909
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: to the extent that someone gets finished here again mma

910
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: is crazy, but the likelihood of that favors I think

911
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Moreno a little bit more. He's just a little bit

912
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: more of a He brings, when he's at his best,

913
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: a little bit more intensity and ferocity to a fight,

914
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: whereas Albasi brings precision, control, measured you know what I mean.

915
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: It's a very different kind of way of fighting.

916
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. When we look at the

917
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: title picture at the moment, the champion Pantosia will be

918
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: taking on newcomer Asakura in December, and the comin of

919
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: UFC three ten Brandon Moreno enters number two, a Mere

920
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: Albosi number three, KKFF four and Tatsura tyrk off the

921
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: defeat at number five. Luke, are we looking at the

922
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: winner of this main event on Saturday getting the winner

923
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: of that Pantoja title defense in your eyes?

924
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: Especially? Actually know what either way? Yes, yes, al Bosi probably.

925
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you could deny him. I

926
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: guess you could say. If Moreno beats Albasi, well do

927
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: you want to see another rematch with Pantoja or again

928
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: the again? If Astacara wins. Who knows, but you know,

929
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: I know, he's a bigger star, so if he gets

930
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: a win over el Bosi, he deserves it too. I'm

931
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: just saying, if there's if it ends up being Pantoja,

932
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: do they really want to run that one back again,

933
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: even though that was kind of exciting. They may want

934
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: some fresh matchups in there. But yes, I think yes,

935
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: The answer is yes. Either way. The winner here she

936
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: get a title, so.

937
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: They would they would get past Royval at number one

938
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: because he had lost twice to Pantoja already. Or do

939
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: you think that if Astacura wins the title, you go

940
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: roy Val next. It's interesting, it's up for grabs.

941
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: I think if Ostacura wins the title, which by the way,

942
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: is by no means out of the Roman possibility, especially

943
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: if he finishes them off the strikes, you know, God

944
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: bless Pantoja. He's I have seen people be like Pantoti

945
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 3: is part of this boring problem that we have in him,

946
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 3: a man like what fucking fights are you watching?

947
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're not with it? Whoever says that that.

948
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: Isn't even close to true. However, he has not captured

949
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: the adoration of a wide swath of the fan base.

950
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: So if Asakora goes in there and blows his brains out.

951
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to give him a rematch, dude,

952
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: they might just say, ah, fuck it, We're moving on

953
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: to somebody new. You know.

954
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: Here we go, Hey, Brandon Royval, friend of the program,

955
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: Stay by the phone, all right, stay in shape, stay

956
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: raw dog in it with your four kids, No, four

957
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: kids with six baby mamas, which is one of the

958
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: better gimmicks in this game. All right. Prediction time. I

959
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: got Moreno Luke unanimous in a in a pretty damn

960
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: good five round fight. Where are you leaning, Saturday Man?

961
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: So many questions in so many different directions on this one.

962
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 3: I'll go al Basi. I think Albazi might be able

963
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: to wrestle his way to three rounds of this one,

964
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: but I'm not you know, you know me. I don't

965
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: like doing picks anyway, but I think al Bosi might

966
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: be a bit of a controlling problem for mo Reno,

967
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: unless Moreno's all the way back, in which case I

968
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: think you could overwhelm Albosi pretty easily. But you know,

969
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: gun to the head, I'll take, I'll take, I'll take

970
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: all Bosi.

971
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: Let's bring in the proprietor of the main card minute

972
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: betting podcast Who Knows a Little Thing or two about degeneracy.

973
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: Great main event on Saturday. Where are you telling your

974
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: viewers to put their money?

975
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: I have the alternate total rounds the over two and

976
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: a half in a parlay. I'm parlaying it with the

977
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: machado hibbero. Excuse me, fight to not go the distance.

978
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: I will say that I like moreno by decision. If

979
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: you're just looking for a straight prop, I believe it's

980
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: plus one forty on DraftKings plus one forty four.

981
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: That's pretty good bet.

982
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: That's all right, man, A right, pretty good stuff there.

983
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: Hopefully you get a lot of donations and no say

984
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: to this week. Okay, continue to shut out, shout out indeed,

985
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, reg you got to stop. We

986
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: got to show to do. Okay, you gotta go live

987
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: your life. Thank you. All right, Let's get into this

988
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: co main event. Luke. You know me as a fan,

989
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: this is like my super Bowl. I'm fired up for

990
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: this women's flyweight about I think, with some legitimate title

991
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: implications in it. Former two times straweight champion Rose nama

992
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: Unis will enter her fourth appearance at one hundred and

993
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds, a two to one record, riding a

994
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: two fight winning streak, but she'll be the underdog in

995
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: this one plus one ten according to DraftKings against the

996
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: minus one thirty. Aaron Blanchfield now Luke Thomas. Aaron Blanchfield

997
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: is fresh off a humbling five round loss to mental Pharauh,

998
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: which did really expose maybe a one dimensional side of

999
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: her game and an inability on the feed to control

1000
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: distance and overwhelm Pharah. Are you good with her being

1001
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: the favorite here from a betting standpoint against the more

1002
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: well rounded Rose, Even though I'm the first to admit it,

1003
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: I still don't fully know who Rose is at Flyway.

1004
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I am very much in favor of that. I

1005
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: think that somebody like Rose, yes, well rounded. I mean again, dude,

1006
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: it has Rose foughten and beaten better competition. There's really

1007
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: no question right there. It's not up for debate. But

1008
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: blanche Field, with her youth, I think the Fro fight

1009
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: was a big learning lesson. To what extent she's learned them,

1010
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: We'll find out, but there's no way she can't look

1011
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: at that and be like, there's some things I got

1012
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 3: to do differently, but more to the point, dude, in

1013
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: your face, hard nosed style. She's gonna take rounds off

1014
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: a lot of fighters that way, whether she wins or

1015
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: she loses. In other words, she's gonna, you know what

1016
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: I mean, like that style. It's not gonna guarantee her

1017
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: a win, but the longer fights go, the more she's

1018
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 3: just gonna bank rounds just by taking the fight to people,

1019
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: just by being that person in front of them, forcing

1020
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: them back, making them wrestle. Fiora had a good answer

1021
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 3: for it. But Fiora's got a pretty, you know, physicality,

1022
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: she's good for the waight class, and she's got this

1023
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: real ability to negate that particular kind of style. I

1024
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 3: don't that Rose necessarily has that same ability anymore, certainly,

1025
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: even though I know she's not old, but it's kind

1026
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: of got that Max Holloway thing where she'll age out

1027
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: a little bit earlier relatively speaking, and the wrestling component

1028
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: on top of it gives me some confidence as well.

1029
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: I just feel like Blanchefield is going to be in

1030
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: Rose's face and Rose will have some answers for that.

1031
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm not really I'm not discounting that, but overall, that

1032
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: kind of approach in MMA is going to be a

1033
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: much more winning one than it's not. And that's even

1034
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: against a level fighters like Rosemama Units.

1035
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: So I've seen people split. I feel like my emotions

1036
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: have been split. There's times that I can certainly talk

1037
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: myself into the idea of Rose, who used her own

1038
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: wrestling by the way to largely control Tracy Cortez, although

1039
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's a different level of opponent. Certainly style wise,

1040
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of danger that Blanchefield brings with the grappling.

1041
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 1: But if Rose can keep this fight on the feet,

1042
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm certainly of the belief she could potentially piece up Aaron.

1043
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: But I've seen just as many people on the flip

1044
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: side be like this twenty five year old Blanchefield with

1045
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: the youth, with that motor is could really give Rose

1046
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: some physicality issues, Luke. So it's such an interesting fight,

1047
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: and I do want to remind you that Trevor Whitman

1048
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: no longer a part of Team Nami unis here as

1049
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Pat Berry continues his takeover as head coach and Luke.

1050
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: Rose won't go public with why. She just says she's

1051
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: praying for Trevor and really wishes things could be different.

1052
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: How different is she in your opinion, not just at

1053
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: one twenty five compared to one p. Fifteen, but without

1054
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Trevor Whitman, who from a game planning standpoint and certainly

1055
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: from rounding out and making her striking as dangerous as possible,

1056
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: played a key role in her development to one of

1057
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: the greatest female fighters we've ever seen. Without him, are

1058
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: you concerned moving forward?

1059
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: It's not like I mean, listen, Trevor Whitman is talented

1060
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: enough as a coach that I think he could take

1061
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: virtually any fighter in the world and find to get

1062
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: them to win or to bare minimum, fix certain things

1063
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: or do better overall. Like He's not the kind, he's

1064
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: not a fraud. Like. He's a real good coach who

1065
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: has really good experience and has really good ideas, particularly

1066
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: in the striking department. But he understands fighters, he understands

1067
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: the fight game. He's been or in this a long time,

1068
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: and I think his track record speaks for itself. However,

1069
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: this is true of any coach. That doesn't mean that

1070
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 3: that relationship will always work well, especially over time, as

1071
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: people have different ideas about what they want to do

1072
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: and maybe they want to see something new. And by

1073
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 3: the way, there are other good coaches. He's not the

1074
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: only one. So it's not this question of like, you know,

1075
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: Trevor Whitman or bust, Like can she win without him?

1076
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: Of course she can, you know what I mean, Like,

1077
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't really think that's much of a question. Did

1078
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: she benefit from being with him? Of course she did.

1079
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: Could that relationship continue to be fruitful if they really

1080
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: wanted it to, perhaps, But it just seemed like she

1081
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: wanted a new look, she wanted a fresh perspective, and

1082
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely no way indictment.

1083
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: If you leave a coach too early to go to

1084
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: another person who's a fraud, that's one thing. If you

1085
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: aren't very experienced and you're bouncing around a lot, that's

1086
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: another thing. That's not exactly the situation that she's really

1087
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: in here. She's a very experienced fighter. She's been a

1088
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: champion before and defended it before, and you know, has

1089
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: has reached all kinds of glory in the fight game.

1090
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: She has a pretty good idea I think about how

1091
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: to manage her career at this point and like what

1092
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: she needs out of training, So you know, it's not

1093
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: one of those things where I think it's make or

1094
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: break for someone in her situation either way. So I

1095
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: think looking at it from that lens probably not the

1096
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: most helpful. If if she goes in there, it just

1097
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: looks lifeless against Aaron Blanchfield. Okay, let's start asking some questions.

1098
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: But to your point, did she look lifeless against Tracy Cortez?

1099
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: I didn't think so, So let's see what she does

1100
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 3: this time.

1101
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she looked good against hebas as well in

1102
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: the victory before that. But I feel like she's getting

1103
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: hit more than normal at one twenty five. I don't

1104
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: see that dynamic edge that she had at fly at

1105
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: straweight excuse me, or that thread of a finish at

1106
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: any time. But she certainly can grind, She's physically tough.

1107
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: Her striking appears to still be elite in this weight class.

1108
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: But it really goes back to Trevor Whitman or not

1109
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: the central question of can she keep her back off

1110
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: the ground consistently against the dvancement of Aaron Blanchfield, Luke,

1111
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: that answer will decide the fight. What's your answer on

1112
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: that question?

1113
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: Give me Blanchfield by decision. I think she takes it

1114
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: to her I mean averages two takedowns per fifteen minutes,

1115
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 3: So you know, I think that's gonna be a lot

1116
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: for Rose to deal with. Rose has good jiu jitsu,

1117
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: she can fight off her back. I don't know how

1118
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: great her scrambling is, especially against someone like Blanchfield. Blanchfield

1119
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 3: is limited too, because she's just straight ahead, and that's

1120
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: gonna cause some problems, as you saw in the the

1121
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: Vro fight. But in general, I've been very high on Blanchfield.

1122
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 3: I think she's got a lot of the right tools,

1123
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: the right strategy, the right kind of temperament to just

1124
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 3: force people into making mistakes or fighting on her terms.

1125
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: I think she'll get enough of that here to get

1126
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: a decision. Give me Blanchfield.

1127
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you think Rose and Pat remind you of

1128
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: Celine Dion and the late Renee her older manager slash

1129
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: husband slash mentor.

1130
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: Are you implying something that rhymes with the word broom.

1131
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, boom or doom here bufumo. Okay,

1132
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: if that's where you're going with that or the other one.

1133
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: But no, seriously, here, Luke, that's an interesting pick. I

1134
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: certainly can see it. But one thing Rose still has

1135
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: is that high level experience. I believe, unless you correct me,

1136
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: that this will still be a five round fight, which

1137
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: does bring into some question if Blanchfield can have that

1138
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: same explosive factor late in the fight. I mean, I

1139
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: don't know if she necessarily did against Farrow, and that

1140
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: loss there was a lot of frustration with her being

1141
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: unable to change the terms of that fight. I can

1142
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: still see a scenario. While I do expecting competitive and

1143
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: close fight in terms of the scoring, I can see

1144
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: a scenario where Rose is boxing, her counterpunching really ends

1145
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: up proving the difference in a close victory here over

1146
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: five rounds. That's where I'm gonna lean. That's where I'm

1147
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna go. But I have questions. I have questions if

1148
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: the real heat Boston Cortes wins are a little bit

1149
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: of fools gold for where she really stands against the elite,

1150
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: particularly from a physicality sense in this division, even though

1151
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: she's tall and strong. So I like that we're split here.

1152
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna still lean with Rose. No, so you know

1153
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: where are you going with this?

1154
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 3: By the way, it is five rounds, it's a five

1155
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 3: round coming.

1156
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: This is a wonderful fight.

1157
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm going with Rose just because she's the dog. I

1158
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: got her at plus one twenty two earlier in the week.

1159
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: She's plus one fourteen on DraftKings right now. Yeah, man,

1160
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: it's a toss up. It could go either way. I

1161
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: think you're both correct. I think it definitely goes the distance.

1162
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: Errin by decision plus one forty, Rose by decision plus

1163
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: one eighty.

1164
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: I think are both great bets. Bro, you love dogs, man,

1165
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: I've seen that you love dogs. Dogs.

1166
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Luke, it's main Carminet the best plus money bets in

1167
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 2: sixty seconds or less plus money dogs.

1168
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: He started using the N word just because the Dog

1169
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: the Bounty Hunter just chill.

1170
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: He used to Uh.

1171
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: I used to intern on Dog the Bounty Hunter. Funny enough,

1172
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: I used to have to log all the footage from.

1173
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: Did You Really Yeah? College? How many times did you

1174
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: have to edit out anti Semitics?

1175
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I didn't edit anything.

1176
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: I was a lagger.

1177
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: I literally would just like watch the footage and then

1178
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: describe essentially what happened and what characters were in it,

1179
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: and then send it off to the editor.

1180
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: Due the entire premise of the show, it's a white

1181
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: guy who looks like a raisin that someone stapled like

1182
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: the end of a broom handle to on his bucking

1183
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: head and he just chases poor people around Hawaii with

1184
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: a fucking hunt wasps with you.

1185
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he does it in the name of the Lord,

1186
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: and he just wants to keep people off of ice.

1187
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1188
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: I wish he could track down Governor Penn and save

1189
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: him too.

1190
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: Louke and his wife had those bazongas the size of

1191
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: two fucking golf carts, you know what I mean?

1192
00:57:54,920 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: Alrp Beth Indeed all the yo she died. Yeah, he's remarried. Yeah,

1193
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: can you can you show some loves? Yeah?

1194
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: I didn't know she died.

1195
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I'm see. I used to love that show,

1196
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: so I was big into like the extended family. I

1197
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: still follow them all in social doesn't mean, though, that

1198
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: I speak that same language that him and Hulkogan do,

1199
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: even though they kind of look like. Let's talk about

1200
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: the title picture instead. Here At one twenty five, Chefchenko

1201
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: regained the belt. Grosso your number one contender, Pharareau at two,

1202
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: will get the next shot. We all believe. Blansfield comes

1203
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: in at three, Macy Barber four, and nama Unis at five.

1204
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas Rose has told everybody, including Shaq Mma this

1205
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: week that the competitor, the meritocracy, believer, the integrity side

1206
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: of her doesn't think, even with the spectacular win, that

1207
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: she should pass Farrow because they fought three fights ago

1208
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: and Rose lost. But she did say she's trying to

1209
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: steal the show and she wouldn't be upset at crashing

1210
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: that title picture. So here's my question to you. Let's

1211
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: say Rose wins, and let's say it's impressive. Does UFC

1212
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: press pause on Pharaoh Rise and just get a celebrity

1213
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: matchup two potential future Hall of Famers here in Valentina

1214
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: and Rose. When you have the chance to do it,

1215
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: do you just do it? No matter what? What's your take?

1216
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: I don't think so, in part because France is an

1217
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: important emerging market to them. Fierreau is French. You know,

1218
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: I don't think she's got a super fan friendly style

1219
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: to your point, if she's not beloved like Rose. To

1220
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: your point, she doesn't have the history with the fan

1221
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: base to your point. At the same time, her case

1222
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: is pretty is not pretty strong. It's the strongest, So

1223
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: you know, they could always go in that direction, but

1224
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: it would feel like quite a betrayal. To not give

1225
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: Fierroa what she's earned five game is brutal, man. You

1226
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: got to get people what they've earned that I think

1227
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: that they will.

1228
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, we also have a heavyweight tilt worth watching

1229
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: as Derek Lewis comes back. He was supposed to fight

1230
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: Alexander Romanoff. You would tell me this week on the

1231
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: BCX that Romanov didn't want to fight him and the

1232
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: UFC assumed it would be boring, so both fighters stayed

1233
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: on the cards. They're going to get SEP opponents. However,

1234
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: Derek Lewis is gonna come in as the underdog, despite

1235
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: being fresh off of a knockout win to redeem himself.

1236
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: He will be plus one forty five according to DraftKings

1237
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: against former Glory Kickboxing star Brazilian j Johanada Denise at

1238
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: minus one seventy five. Luke, do those odds accurately show

1239
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: you what we're up against here in this heavyweight fight

1240
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: as the thirty nine year old Lewis looks to it

1241
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: extend that UFC record for knockouts.

1242
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 6: Um.

1243
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: I think the questions about Derek Lewis are fair and

1244
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 3: pretty reasonable. By the way, this week, admitting that because

1245
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: Francis went to the PFL, he got a big bump

1246
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: in his contract. I was like, Oh wow, you mean

1247
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: like competition in the marketplace made wages go up. I

1248
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: can't believe it. That sounds just like everything you'd learn

1249
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: in economics one on one. But all right, neither here

1250
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: nor they are just speaking of this fight. I think

1251
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: there Lewis is, you know, I think the odds are

1252
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: pretty fair right where to your point, Denise minus won

1253
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 3: sixty six going to our friends with DraftKings and plus

1254
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 3: one forty for Lewis. He's in any fight with any

1255
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: of these guys, But I don't know he's at the

1256
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: stage anymore where you can like there was a while

1257
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: there where you know, you didn't have to worry about

1258
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: him beating this level of guy. And I still think

1259
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: he's better than this level of guy, but he's not

1260
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 3: a reliable fixture this time out to go out every

1261
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: time and blow the doors off of everybody who's not

1262
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, I know he beat Volkal, but you know

1263
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: what I mean, like that level of guy, like a

1264
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 3: top five, top eight guy. I think there was a

1265
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: time when you could just sort of assume he would

1266
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: beat them. I don't know if we're still living through

1267
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 3: that anymore. So Denise undefeated. He puts people away as well.

1268
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: I think he's come up of a decision. But his

1269
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 3: other two fights were both finishes. You know, yeah, it's

1270
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 3: probably fair, It's probably fair.

1271
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: Denise is thirty three from Kira Te Bob Brazil eight

1272
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: and Oero overall. One is first two UFC fights, as

1273
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: well as a Dana White Contender Series appearance which he

1274
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: scored a knockout, So this is an interesting matchup.

1275
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: Now.

1276
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: I caught up with Derek Lewis this week, and I

1277
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Speaker 1: gotta say he was in a weird space and he's

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Speaker 1: got a few different kind of weird interviews this week,

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Speaker 1: a lot of times taking shots at Daniel Cormier. You

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Speaker 1: never really know what to believe in terms of Lewis

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01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: because he's so great with that dry humor at setting

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Speaker 1: you up. But look I got him this week, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I tried my best to do dential surgery

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Speaker 1: and get him talking about anything, and he just seemed

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Speaker 1: to not care. Now, that wouldn't be against his brand.

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Speaker 1: He'll always tell you I'm here for the money. I'm

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Speaker 1: not about anything else. I only want to be with

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Speaker 1: my family, and I believe him in that regard, but

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Speaker 1: he really didn't seem to care about the matchup the opponent.

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Speaker 1: The only thing he seemed to be happy about was

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to do five rounds this time, So

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Speaker 1: maybe that means he didn't have to train as hard

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Speaker 1: for the cardio. But even if I can make that

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Speaker 1: statement based on his interviews and his age and the

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Speaker 1: unpredictability of his results, that now would be a good

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Speaker 1: time for him to get caught by a guy who

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Speaker 1: seemingly on the rise, that logic really never works with

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Speaker 1: Derek Lewis because of the power and because of the

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Speaker 1: what I believe is waning motivation. He is kind of

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01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: a weird lock from a betting standpoint, because every time

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Speaker 1: you think he's about to break through or that he

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: should step up and get a win, I think sometimes

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01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: he might defeat himself mentally. I certainly saw that in

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: the serial gonfight in his hometown, although Gon was certainly

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: on a good run right there. But it's such a

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01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: shit show in trying to predict what we'll get from

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Speaker 1: Lewis here, I don't really know which way to go

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't either these odds to me feel. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's not a pick them, so what I'm about to

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Speaker 3: say is not quite true, but it doesn't feel too

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Speaker 3: distinct from a coin flip. It's like, you know, Derek

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Speaker 3: Lewis has the power, certainly the experience, the experience edged

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Speaker 3: by a million miles, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: he should be able to win this, but at the

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Speaker 3: same time, he's been somewhat inconsistent, and he is getting older,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think it's Jens quite what it used

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Speaker 3: to be. And sometimes he makes dark mistakes, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, there's just a few different ways

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Speaker 3: you can look at this and be like, yeah, I

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01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: could see Denise having a moment here. So I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's wrong to pick in either direction, no matter

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Speaker 3: what the odds may say. But again, having questions about

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Speaker 3: Derek Lewis is not unjustified. It seems quite normal given

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Speaker 3: where we are.

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Speaker 1: Denise not huts, right, I just wanted to say that

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Speaker 1: this whole time. Hey, Mike Boone, Yeah, there you go.

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01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: Mike Bone of MMA Junkie caught up at the media

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Speaker 1: day with Lewis and asked him specifically about one of

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Speaker 1: Canada's greatest homegrown findings, and that would be poutine.

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Speaker 3: What are yourr thoughts on poutine?

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Speaker 4: Do you like gravy on your fries or is that

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Speaker 4: too much for you?

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Speaker 3: What poutine?

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Speaker 4: Have you ever had that before?

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01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: What is poutin poutine?

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Speaker 3: Poutang? I heard poutang, but.

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Speaker 4: I never heard no pot You've had plenty of that.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, got back taste in my mom my wife too.

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Speaker 4: We it's it's fries with cheese and gravy on it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not your thing?

1343
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: And what's up with milk?

1344
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: Look? He was ready to go Tyra Woodley on his

1345
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: wife there. I don't know if I was prepared for that.

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Speaker 3: Poutine is completely overrated, I mean completely over it. Like

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Speaker 3: of all the ways to make fries delicious, putting cheese

1348
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 3: curds on them and then gravy. I'm not saying it's bad,

1349
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 3: it's fine, but they act like it's like a fucking

1350
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: amazing invention. It's not an amazing invention, BC. I can

1351
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: think of a million other ways to make comfort food.

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: I also like dipping the fries and the male that

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: they do there, and uh, dude.

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Speaker 3: When I went to Amsterdam, When I went to Amsterdam,

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01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 3: they they went to this place, like they give you

1356
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: this cone of fries, and the fries are like those

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01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: fat steak fries, you know, they have like a like

1358
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 3: a like a flat side that makes it easy to scoop.

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01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: And then the bit was you could just pick all

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Speaker 3: of these sauces. You could pick nacho cheese, ketchup mayo.

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Speaker 3: Then they had a sauce called Joppy sauce. You ever

1362
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: had joppy sauce. No, it's like a pink Mayo e

1363
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 3: catchupy kind of thing. Hard to explain. But the whole

1364
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: bit was just give you a bunch of fries, and

1365
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: the real play with fries is to give you a

1366
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: bunch of different sauces to try which one suits you.

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: Just dumping fucking grandma's gravy on top and some bullshit

1368
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Speaker 3: cheese curds. Y'all eat like peasants up there in Canada.

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Speaker 3: God bless Canada, nicest people, wonderful country. I love Canada,

1370
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: But fucking poutine, like this is your delicacy, This is

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01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: this is peasant food. I mean. Now, it's not as

1372
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: bad as the UK where we went to a Tesco

1373
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: station and they had food that I assumed was edible

1374
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: for humans, and it was just straight up dog food.

1375
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Speaker 1: Well, we filmed a bunch of segments for the doncumentary

1376
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: that never got released of me eating said gas station food.

1377
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 3: Listen, listen, rip showtime. What can I do?

1378
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: We're still expecting Rich Franklin to join with us any second.

1379
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: Are we?

1380
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: We are looking, by the way, that's fine North American

1381
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: comfort food to dip things in gravy. I'm certainly down

1382
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: with that. Derek Lewis is not, you know, they don't

1383
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: have that in Texas, I don't think, but Luke, pie

1384
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: pot Pie, that's true. For all we know, Derek Lewis

1385
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: probably looks bad for a round and a half and

1386
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: then knocks this mf or out. That's probably where we

1387
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: should lean here.

1388
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 3: Right, That's exactly right. You can go in there and

1389
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 3: be like, oh, man, Lewis is getting past it at

1390
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: this point, Denise is having his way and then they

1391
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: start round three or whatever, and he just hits him

1392
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 3: with a gigantic uppercut and you're like, oh right, well,

1393
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis is back like it's just really hard to tell, man.

1394
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: This is why Hey, Long Island, Luke, would you agree

1395
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 3: that betting on Derek Lewis at this stage, in particular,

1396
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: in this matchup a little too risky.

1397
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: I disagree because I'm taking Derek Lewis. It's a heavyweight fight.

1398
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: Derek Luis has five times the amount of experience is Denise.

1399
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: Denise has ever even fought anyone in the top fifteen.

1400
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: Derek Lewis has fought nine of the guys in the

1401
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: top fifteen, and he's one of them. So he's number

1402
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: ten and that's not including Daniel Cormier, that's not including

1403
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: Francis and Ganner.

1404
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: Like he's futt of who's who at heavyweight.

1405
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: I just think he's gonna out experience him, probably finish him.

1406
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: Derek by KOs plus two fifteen.

1407
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a little extra sprinkle, Wow, I'll

1408
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: take it. I'll play take plus two fifteen on DA.

1409
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 3: I like when he disagrees with us because he gives

1410
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: a good perspective from the other side. So it's good to.

1411
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: Show Aaron never had that perspective. Although I love j Aaron, Okay,

1412
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: there's a soft spot in my heart for that man.

1413
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: I cannot believe you had him on your channel. I

1414
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: mean you really are, I mean I had David but

1415
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 3: Ben's much cooler, you know what I mean.

1416
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a niche, you know, offering

1417
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: for a nietche audience, Luke, But I wanted the story

1418
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: to be told once and for all. Okay, uh yeah,

1419
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: so that's what we got going on right here? Would

1420
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: it would be awesome, By the way, if one championship

1421
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: was like, we couldn't provide rich, but we can get you,

1422
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: Randy Katour, you are you interested, I'd be like, yeah,

1423
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's fantastic.

1424
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: Let's just move the show forward and if you should,

1425
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 3: he shows up.

1426
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, I want to quickly stay on the

1427
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: rest of this card, Luke. Charles Jordaine is trying to

1428
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: turn back a two fight losing skid at bantam weight

1429
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: as he welcomes Victor Henry, but he's also welcoming new

1430
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: art on his back. Can you check this out and

1431
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: give you a little impromptu rate my tat.

1432
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you can tell from the video, yeah,

1433
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean obviously you can't see there. Yeah, that's the

1434
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: closest one. This is a very very good tattoo, A

1435
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 3: very good tattoo. He probably spent good money he found someone,

1436
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: it looks to me, who specializes in black and gray,

1437
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 3: which is this particular style. The guy who did this

1438
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: back piece, there's no way that's his first back piece

1439
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 3: like this is an experienced, talented guy with a specialization

1440
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 3: in a tattoo. I always tell people, figure out what

1441
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: style of tattoo you want, and then find somebody who's

1442
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,480
Speaker 3: really good at that style. People think that all tattooers

1443
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 3: can do all styles. No tattooers can do Sometimes they

1444
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 3: can do a different styles, but the very best ones

1445
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 3: typically in my experience, only do one style. Find someone

1446
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 3: who does that, and go get it. What I will

1447
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 3: say is you can't really tell from the video there

1448
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 3: is an hour glass on the hat of the pirate.

1449
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 3: It's a little shaky, so there's a couple of additional

1450
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: elements there that aren't my favorite. However, in general, the

1451
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 3: level of detail, the level of depth that that tattoo has,

1452
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 3: the shading, the coloring such as you obviously it's only

1453
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 3: you know, black and gray, but such that they contrast

1454
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: one another super high level.

1455
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: This is a move to Luke Thomas's first team all

1456
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 1: Tattoo in the UFC.

1457
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, that's good enough and big enough

1458
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: where and cohesive enough of a piece where you have

1459
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 3: to take that one. Seriously, that's a really really good tattoo.

1460
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: Is that coachino enough? We'll have to ask missus Thomas.

1461
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: What does cochino mean?

1462
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't you know I'm.

1463
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 3: Meaning dirty dirty?

1464
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I could I could have guessed that. I

1465
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you though, Oh you said you got

1466
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: to know you're so bruck. Lesner was like, I know

1467
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: what style. I want a sword that looks like a Dick.

1468
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: And they're like, we got a guy for.

1469
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 3: That who makes Dick's sword tattoos. Let me find that

1470
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 3: dumb fucker get a ride on the old chess piece.

1471
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about this. Mike Malotte, Canadian born,

1472
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: is back against Trevin Giles. This is the first fight

1473
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: from a lot since really being humbled when he was

1474
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: stopped by Neil Magni in the third round, just as

1475
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: he looked like not the next big thing, but a

1476
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: thing to watch at welterweight. How intrigued are you to

1477
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: see how he bounces back against Giles.

1478
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm not that intrigued. I thought the fight he had

1479
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 3: against Neil Magni was disappointing, to say the least. I mean,

1480
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: obviously he was kicking his ass just until he wasn't

1481
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: or whatever. You know. But Mike a Lot is good.

1482
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 3: He's athletic, he's talented. He should win this one. But

1483
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 3: losing to Neil Magni the way he did was such

1484
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 3: a blower for me that I'm not sure how much

1485
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 3: redemption is really possible.

1486
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: All right, a blower, he says. Jasmine Jazz Davicius Luke

1487
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Speaker 1: is on a nice little run there at women's flyweight,

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Speaker 1: but she'll be the betting underdog again. Arian Da Silva,

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Speaker 1: who's coming in after her first UFC defeat. Do you

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Speaker 1: care about this because I gotta say, Jazzavisius is really

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01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: starting to make her more dangerous in the stand up

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: and seemingly has uped her output in stamina. She's looking

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: like a player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 3: Also, Jazzavissius to have two fight win streak. Right, she's up,

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: she's down. But I actually feel like she's at this

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01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: peak now where her skill sets really kind of come together.

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Speaker 3: She's putting in, she's trying to stay active. I feel

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Speaker 3: like she doesn't take too long a layoff in general.

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 3: You know, she does really good things. So I don't

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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 3: know exactly quite what to make of this particular matchup,

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 3: but I I like her moxie and I like her

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 3: level of activity. This is a good fight for her,

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01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 3: I think again. And she's taken on an opponent who's

1505
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 3: pretty hittable, which I think will service her, so she'ld

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01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 3: be good, all right.

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Speaker 1: Jack Shore also back Alexander Romanov a few other names

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: to sort of care.

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01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: About here at Hey, i'man's a hobby versus Pedro Munoz.

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 3: That's a good fight. That's a really good fight.

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: Indeed, Yeah, move, is this gonna be the end? Munyo

1512
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: is talking about becoming a coach after his career.

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 3: Munyo's talking about becoming oh h, which he should be.

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 3: You know. Well, here's the thing. He gave really good guys,

1515
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 3: really tough fights, beat a couple of really good guys

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 3: along the way. But I definitely think he's a little

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 3: bit past it, so he probably has any I mean,

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01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: he's got one, he had great guillotines, he's got a

1519
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: phenomenal leg kicking game. There's just so much he can do.

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01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 3: I definitely feel like, you know, I don't know how

1521
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: much time left he has in fighting, but he probably

1522
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: has a lot to offer into the coaching realm, and

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing him transition there.

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Speaker 1: All right, sweet, let's go. Topic number four Luke involves

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 1: the UFC Middleway champion Drinkuez Duplasi, who being interviewed by

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: radio raps, it look it looked like a bar sit

1527
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: down setting. I don't know what country that was in,

1528
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: but DDP had some thoughts. He doesn't want Sean Strickland

1529
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: next in a title rematch of their very close first

1530
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: fight that seemingly could have gone either way. He wants

1531
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: what's the heart number of the unbeaten harm Zat Jemaiah.

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Speaker 1: Let's watch the video and then we'll respond.

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Speaker 6: Now, we all always knew that if between rob and

1534
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 6: comes up, if there was going to be something exceptional

1535
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 6: that happens, there might be a change in the title fight.

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 6: As a fan of the sport and as the middleweight

1537
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 6: champman of the world, that's a fighter gets me more excited,

1538
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 6: you know, taking somebody's overtaking, you know I've beaten street

1539
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 6: than before. Now getting that comes out fight that that

1540
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 6: gets me excited. I think the whole world, the fans

1541
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 6: wants to see it. The fans ultimately pay to watch

1542
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 6: the fights. So the fight the world thinks is the

1543
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 6: best next fight, that's what I want. So yeah, I

1544
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 6: think that comes up fight is one hundred percent what

1545
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 6: I want. The UC is going to do what they're

1546
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 6: going to do. But you know, from a fan perspective

1547
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 6: and from a fighter's perspective, I think comes up.

1548
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, what do you think about this? Because that's

1549
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: the fight we kind of all want to see. Maybe

1550
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: we just make Sean Strickland wait one round here.

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 3: I agree with him. I agree with him. I think

1552
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 3: DDP is right on the money. I mean, listen, we've

1553
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 3: said it before. It's not like Sean doesn't have an

1554
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: argument for a rematch. He does. He arguably beat DDP

1555
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: when they fought. I mean, in the end, the judges disagreed,

1556
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 3: but it was very close. A scorecard for him is

1557
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: in no way difficult to come by, and he was

1558
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 3: able to beat Paulo Costa, which I don't put too

1559
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: much faith in, but you know, he got back out

1560
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: there and he beat another guy who was, you know,

1561
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: relatively close to the top of the division. That matters. Like,

1562
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: his case is not bad, it's a good case, but

1563
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 3: The thing is, Hamzad just went in there and bulldozed

1564
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: Robert Whittaker. Like that is beyond exceptional, that is extra level.

1565
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: We keep talking about what if they go in there

1566
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: and do something special, to the point that DDP himself

1567
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 3: just raised in this video what constitutes extra special? Dude,

1568
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 3: If blowing the fucking doors off Robert Whittaker, and I'm

1569
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 3: not exaggerating quite literally, at least temporarily rearranging his face

1570
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 3: isn't meeting that threshold, then nothing does. You're talking about

1571
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 3: one of, if not the highest marker of quality in

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 3: the one hundred and eighty five pound division, and Hamzat

1573
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: dispatched with him like he was fighting you or me

1574
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 3: or something like that. Just insane level of brutality, insane

1575
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 3: level of efficiency, insane level of dominance, a statement beyond statement,

1576
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 3: beyond statement, and it's a fresh matchup. It's an interesting matchup.

1577
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 3: I totally agree. And by the way, respect to DDP, Dude,

1578
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 3: he's not doing one of these bits where he's like,

1579
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, you got to give the guy who

1580
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: was the former champ, you know, like he's trying to

1581
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 3: equal like, you know, listen, Morob can fight who he

1582
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 3: wants to fight, and they can work that out with

1583
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: the UFC. But the fact that he's been like trying

1584
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 3: to stiff arm Umar this whole time has definitely put

1585
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 3: a bad taste in my mouth about like, and it

1586
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: kind of signaled I think I tend to think that

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01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 3: Morob just wants no part of Lumar and i'brena made

1588
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 3: off and I understand that because I think Umar beats him.

1589
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 3: But you know, he's been really weird about it. Dude,

1590
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 3: DDP is like, bring your ass on, let's see what

1591
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 3: you can do, Like no hesitation. Salute to DDP, picking

1592
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 3: the tougher fight in my judgment, picking the more dangerous fight,

1593
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 3: in my judgment, picking the guy that the people want

1594
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: to see him fight, and doing it without hesitation. He's

1595
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: a champion for a reason.

1596
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm downe for that. I don't think he's running

1597
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: at all from Strickland. I think you know, he basically said, look,

1598
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: i'll fight him next after that, but let's take the

1599
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: hot hand, let's take what the fans want. DDP would

1600
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: go on to tell ESPN's Breado Komoda that all the

1601
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: conversations he's been having with the UFC have been about

1602
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: a Strickland rematch, but he said there's a reason why

1603
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: he never signed it yet. I think he, like everybody else,

1604
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: wanted to see the results of this fight, and he

1605
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: got the result he wanted. Credit to him for saying,

1606
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: all right, tough matchup a guy on fire, let's do

1607
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: this now. I'm one hundred percent down with that. But Luke,

1608
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,839
Speaker 1: we know from talking to Eric Nixic of Team Couture

1609
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas that they've had chamayav in there before

1610
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: and Strickland's had some sparring with him. Strickland was having

1611
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: a back and forth on X yesterday with a fan

1612
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: where he was asked, how did that sparring go. Here

1613
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: is his response, Uh, no, man talking about jamaiav. He's

1614
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: a COVID, made that little slut retire. He would come

1615
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: to the gym and f up our low level pros

1616
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: and avoid the high level guys because quote, they don't

1617
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 1: fight like my opponent. Lmao. Luke, I think this was

1618
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: kind of the thing. We heard that they had some

1619
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: sparring and Strickland didn't do bad against jamaiev in there.

1620
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's true, But how many years ago is that?

1621
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: Like three maybe three.

1622
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, okay, a lot of time has passed, and

1623
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 3: again some of that time a good chunk of it.

1624
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: There has been issues about the health of Jamaiev. Okay,

1625
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: fair enough, but again, Jamaiah just went in there against

1626
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 3: the ultimate arbiter of quality in Robert Whittaker and smashed

1627
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 3: him to pieces like what do we even do we?

1628
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 3: What are we talking about here? We're asking? We asked

1629
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 3: ham zat Hey, dude, you want to fight for a title,

1630
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 3: prove to us who you are? What more are we asking?

1631
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? This is the guy. Now,

1632
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 3: let's make that fight. And I again shotsa DDP for

1633
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 3: accepting it and no hesitation.

1634
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of that guy, Luke Rich Franklin is here, the

1635
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: former UFC middleweight champion, the vice president of one Championship,

1636
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: and a real badass mo fo himself. Let's bring in

1637
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: the ace We said we wouldn't call him an acehole.

1638
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites of all time. Rich love

1639
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 1: it when you come by Morning Combat.

1640
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 4: You know you guys deserve to call me an ashole.

1641
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,839
Speaker 7: Because I'm running a little bit late today, I actually

1642
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 7: thought that the interview was at one o'clock, so I

1643
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 7: apologize for being late on the So I am an

1644
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 7: ace whole.

1645
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 4: How's it going this morning?

1646
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: Oh it's fantastic. Maybe it was to your point twelve

1647
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: eastern Singapore time. I don't know where you reside these days,

1648
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: rich I'm.

1649
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 7: On a Eastern time right now, so I'm I'm in

1650
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 7: the US. I'm Cincinnati. So back back home where I was.

1651
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: Raised, Richard. You a Bengals guy.

1652
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 4: I gotta be their home team.

1653
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 7: You know, when I was a kid, my dad stopped

1654
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 7: by this garage, say I was a little kid, and

1655
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 7: bought you Redskins jacket.

1656
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 4: So I grew up watching Joe Thaisman.

1657
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 7: I saw him when LT hit him back in the

1658
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 7: day and compound fractured his leg.

1659
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 4: And you know, so I was a Redskins fan growing up.

1660
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 7: But then when the NFL moved the free agency, all

1661
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 7: the players started bouncing around. So you know, you follow storylines,

1662
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,879
Speaker 7: but it's like, well, what am I following an arbitrary

1663
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 7: team for? I might as well be rooting from a

1664
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 7: home team.

1665
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: Stuff messed up?

1666
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,520
Speaker 3: You should you should have stuck with the Commanders.

1667
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: Yeah I do.

1668
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 7: I'm a i'm a it's are They're the Redskins to me?

1669
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 7: Through and through, So I don't uh, I don't think

1670
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,480
Speaker 7: that's necessarily cultural appropriation.

1671
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 4: But if I'm offending, anybody, apologize for that.

1672
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm curious because when we first got to know you

1673
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: as champion, you had such a cool backstory, as like

1674
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 1: the local teacher who, like everybody loves and respects, just

1675
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: happens to be this badass. Do you keep in touch

1676
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: with your students from back in the day, and how

1677
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: do you sort of make peace now of that old

1678
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: career used to have, which is, you know, your life

1679
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: since then has been so different. You know.

1680
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 7: I do have a few students that we out to

1681
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 7: me from time to time, some more frequently than others,

1682
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 7: because you know, I just hit fifty years a couple

1683
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 7: of weeks ago.

1684
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 4: It was my birthday, and so.

1685
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 7: Most of the students that I taught are only they're

1686
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 7: only ten years younger than me, so they're hitting their

1687
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 7: forties now, and it's interesting to see some of these kids,

1688
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 7: like kids that were barely passing my math class that

1689
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 7: are now things like financial advisors, And I'm like.

1690
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 4: Who puts you in charge their money?

1691
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 7: Like not getting my business, that's for sure, but jokingly

1692
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 7: of course, but yeah, I do keep in touch with

1693
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 7: some of the kids, and I shouldn't call them kids anymore.

1694
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 7: But yeah, and it's just weird the way that life takes.

1695
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1696
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 7: Every time I think I have my life figured out

1697
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 7: what path I'm going to be on, God has a

1698
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 7: different plan for me. Never never dreamed that I would

1699
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 7: be quitting teaching one day and you know, competing in

1700
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 7: the UFC and winning a world championship. Never thought that

1701
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 7: I would be living in Singapore or working for an

1702
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 7: organization like one, traveling internationally the way that I have.

1703
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 7: So it's just like I just kind of go with

1704
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 7: the flow now and I just let the Lord leave

1705
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 7: me wherever I'm going.

1706
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 3: Rich if I may rich. I don't know if you

1707
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: saw your record was recently broken, so for a middleweight

1708
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 3: fight in terms of a strike differential, you had held

1709
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 3: the record all this time based on your fight with

1710
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 3: David Luazo, which was a beatdown of epic proportion. It

1711
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: was recently broken by a guy they called Fluffy or

1712
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: Anthony Hernandez. I wonder, I gotta say, MMA records don't

1713
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 3: tend to last that long. It lasted a good long

1714
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 3: while and also your reflection on that fight, did you

1715
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 3: ever feel bad for Luaso given the the way it went.

1716
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 4: I mean, well no, because.

1717
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 7: He was going to do the same thing to me

1718
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 7: if he had, if he had the ability of you know,

1719
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 7: I remember studying for that that fight, and down to

1720
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 7: the point where Lauazo had really good elbows, and even

1721
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 7: when I took his back, like I would refuse to

1722
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 7: put my hooks in to try to like when we

1723
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 7: were in a like a referee style position or turtles,

1724
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 7: I wouldn't put my hooks in and flattening them out

1725
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 7: because it does such a good job of rolling over

1726
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 7: and escaping that position and coming into your guard and

1727
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 7: then unleashing those elbows. So if you would have had

1728
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 7: the chance, he would have done the same thing to me.

1729
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 7: And I have a good picture of the two of

1730
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 7: us actually in the hospital that night after the fight.

1731
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 7: You know, he's all, you know, got some stitches and

1732
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 7: a little bit of swelling on his face. My hand

1733
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 7: was busted up. I'm laying in a gurney. So you know,

1734
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 7: we partied together afterwards and all was good.

1735
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: Hey, not bad for twelve and twelve, the legendary night

1736
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: for good old Rich Franklin. We love you, hey, Rich

1737
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: doing great work with One Championship right now in the

1738
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: midst of not a takeover, but an expansion into the US,

1739
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: and we've loved what we've seen in twenty twenty four.

1740
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: Right now, how would you speak to the state of

1741
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: One Championship and what you've been proud of late of

1742
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: this organization.

1743
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 4: Well, we're making good headway with the States.

1744
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 7: Obviously, you guys know that we moved the event from

1745
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 7: Atlanta to Bangkok, and there was good reasons for that,

1746
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 7: reasons that are kind of above my pay grade, per se.

1747
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 7: But we've made good headway with the States. I'm excited

1748
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 7: about twenty twenty five and where we're headed with the US.

1749
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 7: We've had good feedback from the States, given that we're

1750
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 7: operating under a different rule set than the Unified rule set.

1751
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 7: We use our global rule set, and so things are

1752
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 7: moving in the right direction. The growth is coming more organic.

1753
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 7: Our second show in Colorado was a huge success. We

1754
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 7: pretty much double the size of the arena, basically double

1755
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 7: the size of our attendance. We have great metrics with

1756
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 7: fans that are traveling in to come see the show,

1757
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 7: so we have a good fan base for the people

1758
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 7: that are in the know in the US, they're in

1759
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 7: the know, they know about one championship.

1760
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 3: Rich here's one thing that's been interesting about twenty twenty

1761
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 3: four for one, and there have been a lot of

1762
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: positive So for example, those Friday night fights where it's

1763
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 3: four ounce muay Thai. I'm not sure what the you know,

1764
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 3: what the proper nomenclature is for it, but it's been

1765
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 3: a big hit. But one thing that's been kind of

1766
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 3: weird has been I can't tell based on the last year,

1767
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 3: if one is an MMA promotion that does some other

1768
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: stuff or if it's like a kickboxing promotion that now

1769
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 3: features MMA. What's the best way to understand what one

1770
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: is both today and going forward.

1771
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 7: We're martial arts promotion, so we've you know, in the past,

1772
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 7: I mean we we've even had boxing matches and one championship.

1773
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 7: So we're in martial arts promotion and will feature all

1774
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 7: martial arts. We've done hybrid matches. We did the hybrid

1775
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 7: match with not this is not the only one, but

1776
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 7: DJ against Rod Tang. When we did the hybrid match,

1777
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 7: it was a muay Thai first round, MMA second round,

1778
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 7: muy Thai third round that didn't make it to the third.

1779
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 4: Then MMA in the fourth round.

1780
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 7: So it's we just we like, we like being able

1781
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 7: to have the flexibility to do those things. And so

1782
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 7: even here in the US, we're the only promotion that

1783
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 7: does this where you can go in and you can watch.

1784
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 7: You know, maybe a card will have twelve fights on it,

1785
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 7: and now that twelve fights, you know, three or four

1786
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 7: of them will be muy Thai, one or two will

1787
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 7: be kickboxing submission grappling matches, and then three or four

1788
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 7: MMA matches. And when we first started doing this, when

1789
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 7: we introduced muay Thai into the MMA events, I personally

1790
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 7: wasn't a fan. You know, this was an idea that

1791
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 7: Chatry had. I wasn't a fan. My in my mind,

1792
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 7: I thought, if I'm going to watch a football game

1793
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 7: and I'm not there to see an inning or to

1794
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 7: a baseball like that was the analogy. Because from the

1795
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 7: outside perspective, for people that aren't fighters, perhaps just to

1796
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 7: fight to fight, but it's significantly different for people that

1797
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 7: are in this business, Like boxing is way different than

1798
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 7: moy Thai is way different than MMA. And so we

1799
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 7: put this MMA match on our moy Time match on

1800
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 7: our MMA card, and I I saw it and I

1801
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 7: was like oh man, that was a really good fight.

1802
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 7: But I don't want to like this thing, so I

1803
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 7: just was like, no, nope, it's still not right these

1804
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 7: MMA cards. I'm a purist if you if you can

1805
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 7: use that, it's kind of an oxymoron talking about a

1806
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 7: purist in MMA, because we mix things around. And then

1807
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 7: we did our we did our second event with some

1808
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 7: moy time matches and the fights were just so good

1809
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 7: and it added a different element and it changes speed

1810
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 7: and cadence of the of the event so that you're

1811
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,879
Speaker 7: not watching the same kind of entertainment.

1812
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 4: And when you watch our moy Thai in the four

1813
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 4: ounce gloves.

1814
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 7: It it's it's catching on in the US, and when

1815
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 7: it catches on, I believe it's gonna spread like wildfire

1816
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 7: because you get for the for the casual MMA fan

1817
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 7: who likes to watch people, you know, getting starched and whatnot.

1818
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 7: It's like moy Thai is a more elite level striker

1819
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 7: than MMA, but with the same gloves, and so it's

1820
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 7: a much more exciting stand up match. So once we

1821
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 7: started mixing the shows up, I've become a huge fan

1822
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 7: of it.

1823
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 3: How does that? So how does one view itself? Okay,

1824
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: so I'm sure you've seen least to some extent PFLs

1825
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 3: making a bunch of claims. And by the way, I mean,

1826
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 3: I think we all know that they're kind of silly,

1827
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 3: but they are making claims like, hey, it's now a

1828
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 3: duopoly in the sport and wear number two in MMA,

1829
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 3: Like does one even care because you don't see yourselves

1830
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 3: as a full MMA promotion or like, how do you

1831
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: view what one one does relative to the PFL and

1832
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 3: relative to the of those claims about itself.

1833
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 7: Well, I guess the best way to say this is

1834
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,520
Speaker 7: that when you look at any of the other organizations

1835
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 7: in the United States, they're all they're all number two

1836
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 7: to the UFC obviously, and they're going to be forever.

1837
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 7: You're not going to topple that king. We work in

1838
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 7: a completely different space. Our product is different that we

1839
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 7: bring forward. We're not bringing an MMA product to the

1840
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 7: United States. We're bringing a mar sharks product to the

1841
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 7: United States. Plus, even when you look at our MMA product,

1842
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 7: it's different than everybody else's MMA product in that space,

1843
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 7: which is why when we're coming to the US, like

1844
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 7: I personally am working with the state commissions to get

1845
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 7: approvals in these various states because our rule set is

1846
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 7: different from competitive rules like allowing these of the head

1847
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 7: of a grounded opponent in competition, to things like the

1848
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 7: hydration protocols that we have that also support that we're

1849
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 7: different all the way around, and so we will never

1850
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 7: be number two because we're just offering a completely different product.

1851
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 7: There is a differentiation between One Championship and every other

1852
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 7: MMA MMA organization on the planet because we're not an

1853
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 7: MMA organization.

1854
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: Well, you're offering a lot to like in the next

1855
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: big car for One Championship a week from tomorrow, Saturday,

1856
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: November ninth, Bangkok. It's one one sixty nine, and there's

1857
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: so many names we can talk about, but off the top,

1858
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: the most exciting fighter to me in One Championship, and

1859
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: maybe really the guy who's kind of slowly becoming the

1860
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 1: face of the franchise is Anatonin Mallikin, who is in

1861
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: such a creative and fun matchup against Rubrug umar Kin.

1862
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: When we're in the spot where you know, the UFC

1863
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: with John Jones can make the claim we have the

1864
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: best heavyweight in the world, PFL is trying to make

1865
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: that claim within GHANU. What do you think one complaint

1866
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: can make the claims about what it has here with Mallikin,

1867
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: not just from a competitive side, but just the excitement

1868
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 1: this guy brings to the cage.

1869
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I mean, I'm a big Mallekin fan,

1870
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 7: but let's not discount Rogrogue that's coming in here. You know,

1871
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 7: I wasn't a believer in Rogrogue initially, Like I just didn't.

1872
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 7: I thought that he was just this kind of freakish

1873
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 7: look in anomaly that you know, may not last or whatever.

1874
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 7: But when I saw his match against Buceca, what a

1875
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 7: tough match between those two guys, and it went the distance,

1876
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 7: I mean, and it was a high paced match for

1877
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 7: two heavyweights. So he's gonna definitely bring something for Mallikin.

1878
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 7: But man, Mallikin is tough, and if you spend any

1879
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 7: time with Malikin, he's just like he's good energy. He's

1880
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 7: the kind of kind of guy that you want to

1881
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 7: be around and hang out with. He's very magnetic and

1882
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 7: mat I'll tell you this guy, I mean, he like

1883
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 7: he hits like he's got cinderblocks and his gloves. He's

1884
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 7: difficult to take down. He knows how to control the pace.

1885
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 7: He can push the pace as a heavyweight, So like

1886
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 7: I would definitely stake my money on a Mallekin competing

1887
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 7: internationally with the likes of John Jones or Francis for sure.

1888
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: Do you get many fat or vibes at all with Mallikan?

1889
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 4: I do exactly.

1890
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 7: I think to myself, I would love to I'd love

1891
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 7: to just spar with him, just to see what it

1892
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 7: feels like, because I mean, he just feels like he's

1893
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 7: so heavy. He's immovable in essence when when somebody's trying

1894
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 7: to spar with him or move him, he's just he

1895
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 7: just seems like a very very heavy person. So it's

1896
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 7: going to be interesting in this match against Rogrogue to

1897
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 7: see if, if, or when Rogrogue begins to engage in

1898
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 7: some sort of close encounter clinch type of thing, how

1899
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 7: he's going to handle that with someone like Mallekin. Because

1900
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 7: there's this part of me that just feels like Mallekin

1901
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 7: is like this big stone he's just been he's just

1902
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 7: been chiseled out of stone and he's been sitting there

1903
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 7: like you know, and he's immovable, like some the Rock

1904
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 7: of Gibraltar or something.

1905
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my dates and time zones correct this

1906
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: one one sixty nine card will air next Friday, a

1907
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Speaker 1: week from today, November eighth here in the US, eight

1908
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Live on Prime Video. As that series continues,

1909
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: so so much to talk about this card, from Rod

1910
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,799
Speaker 1: Tang to so many but Kid Rutolo making this lightweight

1911
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: MMA appearance here against Ahmad Mutaba and coming off of

1912
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 1: everything he has accomplished in the grappling field, including that

1913
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 1: grappling match that Luke Thomas is telling me is the

1914
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: greatest we've ever seen at the Greig Jones Invitational. How

1915
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: excited should MMA fans be about what Kid is now

1916
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: trying to do, and he's talking a big game in

1917
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: these interviews about who he can be in the MMA space.

1918
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 4: I think that they should be really excited.

1919
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 7: The thing about Caid is, I mean, these guys, him

1920
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 7: and his brother Ty, they they're grappling is on a

1921
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 7: completely different level. And you know, obviously you're only as

1922
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 7: strong as your weakest link in MMA, but when your

1923
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 7: strongest link is so strong, you're able to rely on

1924
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 7: that in such a way. I always use like Randy

1925
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 7: Cotorp as an example. This is a guy from my era.

1926
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 7: Randy didn't have the greatest boxing in the world, but

1927
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 7: his wrestling was so strong that he could rely on

1928
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 7: it that it made his boxing very effective. And this

1929
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,799
Speaker 7: is kind of the same with a guy like cad Utolo.

1930
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 7: His grappling is so good that he's making handywork of

1931
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 7: the best grapplers in the world. So if you're not

1932
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 7: at that level he's, you're going to have problems with

1933
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 7: his grappling. But because of the way that him and

1934
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 7: his brother, the way that these two guys grapple, they

1935
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 7: mix things up there so oh dynamic that they'll incorporate

1936
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 7: things in like striking whatever. He's not afraid to try

1937
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 7: a spin kick or something crazy because he'll just come

1938
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 7: off of that and do some unorthodox grappling move that

1939
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 7: somebody else wouldn't be expecting.

1940
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 4: So his high.

1941
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 7: Level grappling allows him to take risks in other ways

1942
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 7: that aren't as risky for him. So you're going to

1943
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 7: see MMA fighters for a while dealing having real problems

1944
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 7: with a guy like Cabrid's hole because he's not somebody

1945
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 7: who would just you know, guard drop take you down

1946
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 7: and depend on some sort of trying to catch you

1947
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 7: in some submission from the guard. He's dynamically going to

1948
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 7: be rolling the entire time, and if he gets close

1949
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 7: to you, you know, his standard, his takedowns, they're not

1950
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 7: even standard. When he grappled a shin yaoki, he just

1951
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 7: kind of like hit an ankle pick just to kind

1952
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 7: of set something else up, like he didn't even commit

1953
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 7: fully to it. And I watch these things, and you know,

1954
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 7: I come from a generation like if I hit that

1955
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 7: ankle pick, like man, I'm pressing and I'm chain wrestling

1956
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 7: off of that, and he's just like, I'll just do

1957
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 7: this just to give him a look and go to

1958
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 7: something else. It's truly impress of what he's capable of doing.

1959
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 7: So I think he's going to be around for a while.

1960
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 7: In MMA, he's here to stay rich.

1961
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: Some people have claimed that with this had in my

1962
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,759
Speaker 1: recently reduced jawbone, that I look like a young prime Randy,

1963
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 1: and I, you know, I don't. I don't push back

1964
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: against that.

1965
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 7: You know what, that's not necessarily a put down, man,

1966
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 7: I would I would roll with that one. Trust me.

1967
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 7: It's much better than looking like Jim Carrey. I'm just saying.

1968
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I didn't get the nickname Ace by accident.

1969
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:32,799
Speaker 3: There it is uh Rich why ultimately did one decide

1970
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 3: to part ways with Sage north Cut.

1971
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, just to kind of like put put

1972
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 7: things like, you know, as simply as possible. When an

1973
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 7: athlete becomes unhappy in an organization. Uh, just just like

1974
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 7: if you're working corporately, if you're unhappy at your work, like,

1975
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,799
Speaker 7: things can can become toxic. So before they become toxic,

1976
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 7: it's like, give give a fighter what they want, let them,

1977
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 7: let them go their way. We we had that situation

1978
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 7: where Sage came to Japan to fight and there were

1979
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 7: issues with Corners and and these is getting in there

1980
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 7: was some miscommunications on things, and kind of for him,

1981
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 7: you know, he in his mind he saw that as

1982
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 7: a straw that broke the Campbell's back. So if if

1983
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 7: a fighter like that wanted to be released, and we're

1984
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 7: gonna go ahead and let him go.

1985
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 3: Okay, and then the other one that's kind of interesting

1986
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 3: to me, And I don't know what the story is,

1987
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 3: but reneered to Ritter. He was a multi weight champion

1988
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,919
Speaker 3: for you guys, and then he had some losses obviously,

1989
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 3: and then he went to go fight somewhere in the

1990
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 3: Middle East. I do not remember what the name of

1991
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 3: the show Are you a Warriors or something like that?

1992
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 3: Forget what it was. And at the time, One was like, well, no,

1993
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: he's under contract with us, but he just kept doing

1994
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 3: it and now he's fighting for the UFC. Can you

1995
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 3: explain to me what happened with Raneer to Ritter and

1996
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 3: one and how he ended up now where he is.

1997
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's something that our legal team is still

1998
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 7: still working on. So I'm not really at liberty to

1999
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 7: discuss Hardy R on this, but yeah, they're they're working

2000
01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 7: on that situation. And it was it was sticky when

2001
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 7: you when you decided to go to the other organization,

2002
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 7: But we're we're still we're still working with that correctly,

2003
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 7: So when there's a definitive point in time, then we'll

2004
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 7: talk more about that then, all right.

2005
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 3: And then the other one for me is recently it

2006
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 3: is my understanding that at least the business headquarters of

2007
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 3: one moved from Singapore to Thailand. Now, part of that

2008
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 3: is quite obvious, right, It's going to be a lot

2009
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 3: cheaper to do business in Thailand than it is Singapore.

2010
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 3: Singapore is a great place, but it's very expensive. Is

2011
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 3: there anything else to it beyond just a cost saving

2012
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 3: measure about moving the headquarters.

2013
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:37,480
Speaker 7: No, I think it's it's primarily primarily that we're now operating.

2014
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 7: You know, we're primarily operating on that side of the planet,

2015
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 7: and we were bouncing all over the place. But now

2016
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 7: that we have the weekly show in Thailand, we have

2017
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,759
Speaker 7: a good bulk of employees that are based in Thailand,

2018
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 7: and so because I mean, obviously it's a show every

2019
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 7: Friday night, and so in theory we do fifty two

2020
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 7: shows a year, but that probably ends up being more

2021
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 7: like forty eight shows in the year, and so it

2022
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 7: takes quite a bit of personnel, so it made more

2023
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 7: sense for us to move there. The nature of the

2024
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 7: business of One Championship has changed, obviously. I mean, I've

2025
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 7: been with this.

2026
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 4: Company eleven eleven years now, eleven. I think if it's a.

2027
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 7: Twelve or eleven, either I'm going on twelve or I'm

2028
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 7: going on thirteen. But I think it's I think I'm

2029
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 7: going on twelve. And the nature of the business has

2030
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 7: obviously changed, operating out of Singapore originally and then bouncing

2031
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 7: from shows on that side of the planet, and now

2032
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,839
Speaker 7: we have this weekly show that we're basically over extended

2033
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 7: every week operating from Singapore and Thailand. But also now

2034
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 7: we're bouncing to this side of the planet as well

2035
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 7: in the United States. So it just makes more sense

2036
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 7: to simplify for US a process more of logistics.

2037
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 3: Okay, And so for twenty twenty five, for like the

2038
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 3: US based fans, what can one tell us about shows

2039
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 3: here going forward? And again I understand that there's limitations

2040
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 3: about what commissions will do because your ruleset is different.

2041
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 3: By the way, I want to be very clear, and

2042
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 3: I have been very vocal about this. I think one's

2043
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 3: set is clearly superior. However you are up against it

2044
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: with some of these commissions. This is a bare minimum

2045
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 3: of getting them to understand it. But can you give

2046
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 3: the fans some sense of what they can expect for

2047
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 3: state side shows in twenty twenty five?

2048
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I mean, first of all, we operate under

2049
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 7: our global rule set, and so I've gone to states

2050
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 7: and there are states that have accepted.

2051
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:22,799
Speaker 4: The global rule set.

2052
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 7: We're not doing some sort of manipulated version of the

2053
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 7: of the global rule set or operating under the unified

2054
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 7: rule set. It would be impossible for an organization like

2055
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 7: ours to operate under a different rule set. I mean say,

2056
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 7: for example, the NFL went to Canada and the like

2057
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 7: Canada said, well, you have to operate by the CFL rules.

2058
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 7: It's not exactly the same game. You know, the size

2059
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 7: of the field is different. There's a fifty five yard line,

2060
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 7: there's twenty yard deep end zones. You can motion towards

2061
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage. So it changes the complete dynamic

2062
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 7: of the game, similarly that we would have in you know,

2063
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 7: one championship if we, for example, people said well, we'll

2064
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 7: operate under the unified rule set, and there are other

2065
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 7: differences besides needs to the head of a grounded opponent.

2066
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 7: But then it's like, if you win under that rule set,

2067
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 7: could you have won under the global rule set? So

2068
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 7: we have to stay consistent. We've had so far with

2069
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,879
Speaker 7: the states that I've approached good feedback. Some states are skeptical, obviously,

2070
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 7: and some states are looking at how we perform in

2071
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 7: the US. So far, we've had two really good shows

2072
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 7: in the US, and the states that we're working with

2073
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 7: are happy, and so we'll expand in twenty twenty five.

2074
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 7: We have two dates we're looking at, a Q two

2075
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 7: date and a Q four date that are not I

2076
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 7: wouldn't say one hundred percent anchored at this point, but

2077
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 7: in ninety percent anchor at this point as far as

2078
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 7: the dates are concerned. But we will be in the

2079
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 7: US next year, and we will be We're looking at

2080
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 7: different cities other than Colorado. Obviously we're approved in Georgia,

2081
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 7: so you know, perhaps Atlanta could come back around for

2082
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six, but we're also

2083
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 7: looking at some other state as well.

2084
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: A couple of quick ones for you on the way

2085
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: out here, Rich that card so loaded. Next Friday, a

2086
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: PM Eastern, when one sixty nine shows up a live

2087
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: on Prime Video. Who Chacha back at heavyweight? Adriana Maris

2088
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: at flywaight, the first fight since the great Demetrius Johnson

2089
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: has stepped away from the sport and they had that

2090
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: fantastic trilogy, but that co main event for the one

2091
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: excuse me for the muy Thai title at flyweight. We're

2092
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna see rod Tang back and he's gonna defend against

2093
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: Jacob Smith. Tell us about this matchup and really the

2094
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 1: creative challenge here because when Rod Tang can do a

2095
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of things, you can draw a lot of eyeballs.

2096
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 1: When he was in that fight with Mighty Mouse. It

2097
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: was must see TV. How the challenge of creatively promoting

2098
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: and moving forward between different disciplines, because every time this

2099
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: guy's on the screen, you gotta stop what I'm doing

2100
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: and watch it.

2101
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean I think you kind of answered

2102
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 7: your question right there. It doesn't take a whole lot

2103
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 7: of promotion in marketing with a guy like Rod Tang

2104
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 7: when you know when he's on the card, is just

2105
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 7: one of those names where it's going to be a

2106
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 7: good fight, whether he's doing a hybrid fight against DJ,

2107
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 7: whether he's doing a Multai fight, if he decides to

2108
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 7: fight in kickboxing. You know, my only complaint with him

2109
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 7: fighting in kickboxing is I don't get to see all

2110
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 7: eight of his limbs in action, right and so, but

2111
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 7: you know, the thing about raw Tang that makes him

2112
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 7: so dynamic is that he's you know, he's one of

2113
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 7: those guys that's just like he'll make adjustments. You'll see

2114
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 7: him sometimes where he'll he'll taunt his guy, he'll take

2115
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 7: a few shots on the chin, and he seems like

2116
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 7: that guy that'll just walk through punches to deliver punches.

2117
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 7: But you see him at other points where he's just

2118
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 7: completely untouchable. He's a step ahead of his opponent in

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Speaker 7: every facet of the game, taking their balance the moment

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Speaker 7: they move, or you know, knock him off balance with

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Speaker 7: the push kick that he does, the way he closes

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Speaker 7: distance to the inside. So he's just got a lot

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Speaker 7: of tools and he knows how to really adapt them

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Speaker 7: for the opponent that he has. So Jacob Smith, he's tough,

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Speaker 7: He's very durable. He's going to come forward with raw Tang,

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Speaker 7: but it's rare, if ever, that you see raw Tang

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Speaker 7: take a step backwards. So you know, it is my

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Speaker 7: belief that Jacob Smith is going to have to adjust

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Speaker 7: a game plan here and figure out something different than

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Speaker 7: his normal game to try to beat Rod teng with.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it, man, Rod takes such

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Speaker 1: such fun entertainment to watch an absolute badass to continue

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Speaker 1: on the road of like fantasy matchmaking. If the fans

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Speaker 1: can't get in Ghanu versus Jones, you know, we started saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they can get in Ghanu versus Mallekin,

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Speaker 1: for example. Do you see one ever being in a

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Speaker 1: position to want to potentially do the type of cross

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Speaker 1: promotion with somebody like PFL that can make the kind

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Speaker 1: of dream matchups that the fans do want.

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Speaker 7: I could see one championship being in the position to

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Speaker 7: want to make the matchup between Alan Tully Mullikan and

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Speaker 7: Francis and Ganem. But that's a different that's a different

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Speaker 7: answer than the question that you asked me. So what

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Speaker 7: would they be Would they be willing to would we

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01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 7: be willing to co promote? That's a Chowtrey question. My

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Speaker 7: gut says probably not. But as a fan, I would

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Speaker 7: one want to see that fight.

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Speaker 4: Indeed.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, then the close speaking of that, lifetime mixed martial

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Speaker 1: artist Shatri Sidyong toong him against Mark Zuckerberg in a

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Speaker 1: submission grappling match, straight up, who wins and why?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Chati has been in the game much longer with his

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Speaker 7: BJJ than Zuckerberg.

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Speaker 4: Zuckerberg's just getting started. Chatrick just got his black belt.

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Speaker 7: Actually, Hinzo, I don't know if you guys saw it

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Speaker 7: on the broadcast, but he also gave him his black

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Speaker 7: belt in Colorado. So, uh, you know, if I if

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Speaker 7: I could take odds on that one, if they're going

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Speaker 7: to open lines on that one, we'll put it on

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Speaker 7: my boss.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Mark.

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Speaker 1: There, it is there, it is. We're gonna we can't wait.

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Speaker 1: One Championship one sixty nine a week from today, Friday,

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Speaker 1: November eighth, eight pm Eastern on Prime Video. Rich Franklin,

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Speaker 1: vice president of One MMA, legend. We love chat with you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for giving us the time.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys having me on always good time.

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Speaker 1: The ace right there, I love him there. He is

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Speaker 1: not an acehole at all, an absolute great guy and

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Speaker 1: a legend. There he is, Rich Franklin. Great chatting with

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Speaker 1: that guy. Luke, you know what I'm saying. Indeed, indeed,

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Speaker 1: all right here, let's bring it on hold for the

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Speaker 1: end of this morning Combat episode and topic five. Luke

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Speaker 1: is a little Pope Pourrie across the combat game. I

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Speaker 1: want your brief reaction on all things. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Team Canelo and trainer slash manager Eddie Reinoso has shot

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Speaker 1: down the rumors that Canelo's headed to a Chris Ubank

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Speaker 1: showed on at Wembley Stadium, despite U Bank's promoter boxer

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Speaker 1: saying they were in discussions. Renoso would tell Dan Rayfiel

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Speaker 1: a Fight Freaks United, It's totally false. You Bank had

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Speaker 1: his chance to fight Canelo in September, and the only

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Speaker 1: thing he did was complicate the negotiations. We will not

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Speaker 1: touch base with him again for a future fight. Luke,

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Speaker 1: is that a win for the fans in your eyes?

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Speaker 1: Or was that a creative option? If Big Red won't

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Speaker 1: fight Benavitez a Crawford, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't, dude, who is Big Red gonna fight. He's not

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Speaker 3: gonna fight David Benavidez. Benevidez is probably gonna fight David Morel.

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Speaker 3: We think, right in all likelihood, that seems to be

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Speaker 3: the direction that we're headed. Okay, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 3: you Bank.

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Speaker 1: I want Christian Mabilly if we if we can't get

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Speaker 1: who we actually want, all right.

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Speaker 3: Which I wouldn't hate, which I wouldn't hate. Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: not what I really, really, really really you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: not Spice Goes. Tell me what you want, what you

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Speaker 3: really really want. I'll tell you what I want, what

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Speaker 3: I really really want. I want a zig a Ziga,

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Speaker 3: but I I'll take that. But it's like, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't really care about seeing the Chris u Bank

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Speaker 3: fight at all. But it just left me with if

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Speaker 3: he's not going to fight you bank, and he's not

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Speaker 3: gonna fight Morale and he's not gonna fight Benavidez. I

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Speaker 3: guess the Mbilli one is the one that's that's left.

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Speaker 3: Has he confirmed interest or any movement in that direction either?

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard that either, So I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard that. Last I knew he was trying

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Speaker 1: to fight in Japan, potentially on an Annue card. But

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Speaker 1: a recent development just this morning as the aw BA

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Speaker 1: updated the rankings, and guess who's number five out of

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Speaker 1: nowhere at super middleweight for the WBA, Jamal Charlow. That

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Speaker 1: that's not setting up a canell of fight?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 1: I hope it's setting up a Caleb Plant fight for Jamal.

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Speaker 3: I have less than zero interest to watch Canelo fight.

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Speaker 3: Jamal Charlow.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you on that. Come on,

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Speaker 1: Big Red, do the right thing, all right, press the

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Speaker 1: Terrence Crawford button. We're all in Presstolleton already.

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Speaker 3: Do something interesting for Fox's sake.

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Speaker 1: Come on, all right, I mean he still moves product

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Speaker 1: and numbers. You know that he does, all right, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Former UFC champion Jermaine Durandomy, at age forty, has retired

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Speaker 1: after saying UFC was unable to find her a date

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Speaker 1: to close twenty and twenty four. If you remember, GDR

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Speaker 1: ended a four year layoff in April after giving birth,

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Speaker 1: losing a three round decision to Norma Dumont. She wanted

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Speaker 1: to come back this year. She was offered a January

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Speaker 1: fight with Jacqueline Cavalcanti, but it went past her internal

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Speaker 1: date of saying she would never fight after December thirty one,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. How will you remember the inaugural women's

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Speaker 1: featherweight champion.

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Speaker 3: She had a complicated MMA legacy, but obviously she came

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Speaker 3: from kickboxing where she was extremely dominant. She gave Amanda

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Speaker 3: Nunez in their second fight a very, very very tough contest.

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Speaker 3: You know, one of the Dutch. There was a whole

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Speaker 3: lot the Dutch used to be a bigger part of

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Speaker 3: MMA than they are now. But like when they really mattered,

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Speaker 3: she was a big part of it as well, So

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Speaker 3: something of a pioneer, a high achiever, dangerous striker. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the fight against Holly Holm and then I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to fight Cyborg after that really kind of hurt her

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Speaker 3: with the fan base and certainly with the promotion as well,

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Speaker 3: and she kind of knew really she never really recovered

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Speaker 3: after that. I don't, I don't think, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you're looking at the totality of what she's done. She

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Speaker 3: was an enormously accomplished MMA fighter and also just kind

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Speaker 3: of a reminder of the uf He's like, oh, we

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Speaker 3: have to give these guys three fights a year. How

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Speaker 3: many MMA fighters? Excuse me, how many UFC fighters do

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01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 3: you see getting three fights a year? Like, I think

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01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,560
Speaker 3: the average is one and some change. They can't physically

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Speaker 3: do it, and like, this is the point I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to make, Like they have this gigantic roster, they can't

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Speaker 3: find enough places to give people fights.

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunately, she would say in a social media video

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Speaker 1: she posted that she was literally begging them to get

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Speaker 1: her one more fight this year, and the best they

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Speaker 1: could do was January eleventh, and they told her that

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Speaker 1: there were just no spots on any of the cards,

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Speaker 1: which is crazy because it feels like they're trying to

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01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 1: stretch the roster as much as possible to fill out

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Speaker 1: all these cards. So it's wild that she couldn't get it.

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Speaker 1: But Luke, you mentioned a lot of what made her good,

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Speaker 1: a very good in her time ten and five only

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Speaker 1: in MMA, but wins over Julie keed c, Larissa Pacheco,

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Speaker 1: Holly Holm, Raquel Pennington, Aspin lad and Juliana Pana. Not bad.

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Speaker 1: Ann gave Amanda newness. Hell as you mentioned fight as

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Speaker 1: was a police officer by trade. You know, got maligned

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01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: for all the reasons you mentioned. Part of it as

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Speaker 1: well because that inaugural fight with Holly Holm was so

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Speaker 1: awful to watch in Brooklyn. But a gamer, I give

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Speaker 1: her a lot of credit she had. She had a

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Speaker 1: very good career.

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Speaker 3: One of the early women fight, women's fighters who had

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Speaker 3: great stand up too, like don't shed and had pop

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. She could put your lights

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Speaker 3: out with her hands. That was not super common at

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know who's got big time pop, Gravante Davis,

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't look like we're gonna see him again

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Speaker 1: this year. The December fourteenth pay per view slated for PBC.

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Speaker 1: We thought in Houston after he and opponent unbeaten one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pound title holder LaMotte Roach Junior, seemed

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Speaker 1: to accept publicly, it looks like it's not gonna happen now.

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Speaker 1: Per Dan Rayfield of Fight Franks, Fight Freaks, Unique United Unite.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, fuck that name up more I can't. I

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Speaker 1: just had a seizure on air. Sorry about that. Tank

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Speaker 1: would reach out to Rayfield and say January, I'm hearing

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01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 1: there was some rumors that maybe this tank fight could

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Speaker 1: be adjoined with the Morell versus Benavita's pay per view.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see if that happens, but look, not

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01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: great news. I was kind of getting fired up just

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Speaker 1: to have Tank back on the scene.

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Speaker 3: And also I sat down with Lamont Roach. What day

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Speaker 3: was that week? Wednesday? Wednesday? I sat down with him

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Speaker 3: and he was like, Yeah, from what I've heard, the

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Speaker 3: fight's not moving, and then a day or two later

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Speaker 3: and it's moving. So that's really unfortunate. I'll have to

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Speaker 3: edit up the interview to reflect that. But listen, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what to say. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 3: who don't even want to see the fight, and now

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Speaker 3: you're gonna move it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think there's questions about what's happening with PBC, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like Tim Zoo lost and now

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Speaker 3: they're having to move this tank fight and we still

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Speaker 3: don't have an announced we do. They haven't even announced

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Speaker 3: the PBC. I know that Tank announced it and Lamont

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Speaker 3: announced it. PBC has never formally announced this fight.

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Speaker 1: I think there was an issue with getting the arena.

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Speaker 3: There, So right, okay, so fair enough, there's other there's

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Speaker 3: other challenges. I'm just saying. It seems like they're, you know,

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Speaker 3: they're having to manually grind things to get there to go.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a fight on the books at the moment,

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Speaker 1: and that's certainly challenging. But you do hear the rumors

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01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: that we could get a Fundora Spence pay per view

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01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:55,679
Speaker 1: in January, maybe morel Benavidez Tank somewhere around or within that.

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Speaker 1: Those are not nothing, but I you know, I certainly

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Speaker 1: wish them well to get to get back on track.

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01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: A lot of fighters, a lot of very good fighters,

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01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 1: need dates. So that's first and foremost in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways. Luke, are you moved at all by UFC

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Speaker 1: three elevens edition for January eighteenth, where Peyton Talbot the

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Speaker 1: Future Superstar is going to take on veteran Hyoni Barcellos.

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Speaker 3: You see, how did they not put UFC three eleven

2328
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,919
Speaker 3: in Nebraska Omaha?

2329
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, directly?

2330
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 3: How did they fuck that one up. That was the

2331
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,919
Speaker 3: move right there. Yeah. Peyton Talbot to me is highly interesting,

2332
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 3: still very much untested, but a unique person in the sport,

2333
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 3: a unique kind of fight style. He seems to have

2334
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,799
Speaker 3: a lot going for him. I don't know how this goes,

2335
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 3: but I am glad to see him in regular rotation

2336
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 3: such that we can get it.

2337
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Indeed, and also Luke to close this Saturday has got

2338
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 1: an interesting offering from top rank on ESPN when Robes

2339
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 1: and Cansesau and Oshaki Foster rematch that highly can test

2340
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: it if not outright robbery that happened in July when

2341
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: Consesa won a decision despite many thinking Foster had you know,

2342
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: tend to tute him so to speak, there is some

2343
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 1: chatter like, hey, the fact that can say Sow attempted

2344
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: more than two hundred and fifty punches, then Foster did

2345
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: in totality, maybe that played a part, But are you

2346
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: caring at all? As they enter this rematch Saturday of

2347
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: Rowing New York with Foster a minus three eighty favorite

2348
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: to the plus two eighty five, can say, so.

2349
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 3: Oh, Shaki Foster got that was not a great Robbed

2350
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 3: is a strong word, but he that was not strong

2351
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 3: judging in that particular contest. Also, isn't it Hopes and

2352
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 3: because it's Hopes and Moa in in MMA circles?

2353
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, on the broadcast, they always pronounced the R.

2354
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 3: I believe pronounced the R. That's so weird. I never

2355
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 3: know what to do. And also like when Brazilian soccer

2356
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 3: players go play in Europe, they don't they pronounced the R.

2357
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 3: I don't understand. I even asked Glover about that and

2358
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 3: he was like, no, it's you take it's an H.

2359
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, whatever I did I asked. I asked

2360
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 3: Glover about some of these real Madrid players that have

2361
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 3: Ours of the Beginner name and he was like, no,

2362
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 3: his whole listen, do we really give all that much

2363
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 3: of a shit about Oshaki Foster versus Conse Sao Hobbson

2364
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 3: or Robson whatever. I I care that they're doing it again,

2365
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 3: and I and I'm and I salute top Rank for

2366
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 3: trying to figure out if as a way to right

2367
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 3: this wrong. But Oshaki Foster, we should be real about this.

2368
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 3: I do think he got a raw deal the first time.

2369
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 3: I want to be clear, but he also needs to

2370
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 3: do more offensively, and.

2371
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,600
Speaker 1: He said he would Yeah, he knows, okay.

2372
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 3: Because to the extent that it was close at all

2373
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 3: was because he was doing all the slick shit and

2374
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 3: not firing back enough.

2375
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 1: I think that's why the streamatch will be a very

2376
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 1: fun fight. And believe me, a couple of fights ago,

2377
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 1: Oshaki was in an absolute war there against Hernandez in

2378
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 1: his first title defense. So that that I think you're

2379
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 1: gonna see Oshaki be more offensive, which will lead to

2380
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 1: more exchanges. I still think you can get the job

2381
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 1: done there. Though he's nearly a four to one favorite.

2382
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 1: It'd be an interesting title fight. I definitely am fired

2383
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 1: up for this. I had O'shaki the pod Luke and

2384
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 1: he revealed to me that his real first name is Oceanique,

2385
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: but that at some point at an amateur boxing tournament

2386
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 1: it was mispronounced and then announced and everybody thought it

2387
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 1: was so cool that he just stuck with the name.

2388
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: But he said, by birth, he's Oceanique Foster. It's a

2389
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: wild story. That's a decent name too.

2390
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 3: They're both unusual, let's put it that way.

2391
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Let's close this week. We

2392
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 1: did not receive any dead wrongs. But you know, Morning

2393
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 1: Coombat at gmail dot com is open for you as

2394
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: fans for every Friday to jump in with either your

2395
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: dead wrong as or your artwork for us to put

2396
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: on the fridge. This one's called fans submissions.

2397
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 3: You've got mail fures.

2398
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 1: A lot of male viewers in our life here. But

2399
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: let's go first to k You know, okay, why right?

2400
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: You remember that guy we used to call him the

2401
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: jelly Yeah, k says I got a couple of picks

2402
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 1: from NYCC this year, rocking the MK bomber, meeting Elizabeth

2403
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 1: Olsen of Scarlet Witch and Haley Atwell Agent Carter, along

2404
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: with what I assume John Jones wanted to go to

2405
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 1: Luke after seeing the MK Bomber from January twenty twenty four.

2406
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: So is that Kha getting choked out by Boney right there?

2407
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 3: It looks that way, yeah, And there's like a UFC

2408
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 3: fight in the background too. You can see the headshot

2409
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 3: there or whatever, and.

2410
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 1: He's wearing the MK bomber jacket. Right after John unfollowed

2411
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 1: or blocked me on Instagram.

2412
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 3: Amazing, Wow, is that is fucking hilarious that he blocked

2413
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 3: you and hasn't blocked me. I don't quite know what

2414
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 3: to make of that.

2415
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 1: But what Maybe he respects you, Luke first.

2416
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he doesn't like me, that's the problem, right,

2417
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 3: So it's like a grudging respect but also revulsion.

2418
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 1: H dude, was there other pictures there with k or

2419
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: was it just John Jones?

2420
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 4: Oh?

2421
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go, there's where there's where his so

2422
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 1: he comic condit. He comic condit with the jacket. I

2423
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: appreciate that, Thank you, Khy What a guy right there.

2424
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 3: These women wear more oversized clothing.

2425
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: What the fuck that's the style nowadays? Luke, Okay, you

2426
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: can't tell what's going on under there. Maybe that's for

2427
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: good old dirt bags like you to Okay, let's go

2428
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 1: over to Sean. He says, I was leaving the grocery

2429
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: store when I saw this ad BC apparently as a

2430
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 1: doppelganger who sells insurance in Northern Virginia and he's equally washed. Wow.

2431
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 3: These he looks like a mix between you and Joseph

2432
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 3: Gordon Levitt or something.

2433
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, me and the star

2434
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: of the movie Mask. I was like, oh, wow, you

2435
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: know that's Eric Roberts in the mask and yeah.

2436
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 2: There you go.

2437
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: Uh that's interesting, Thank you very much. Yeah, they do

2438
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 1: find doppelgangers of us around the way. How many people

2439
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: email me pictures or dm me pictures of like middle

2440
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 1: aged men doing awful things and saying doesn't it look

2441
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 1: exactly like LT?

2442
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 3: I know they'll get anybody who has like gray hair

2443
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 3: and they'll be like, wow, look at you masturbating at

2444
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 3: the bus stop. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm pretty

2445
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 3: sure I don't live in Vietnam. But okay, thank you.

2446
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: Here's Tyler. He says, Promise has made, Promise is kept.

2447
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: I won my first boxing match this weekend with a

2448
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 1: unanimous decision. My opponent had two standing eight counts after

2449
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 1: I connected with a number of overhand rights. Shirt arrived

2450
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: just in time to rep it at the gym. Check

2451
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 1: out the picks and video attached. Thank you guys for

2452
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 1: everything and for creating such an interactive environment for your fans.

2453
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: Donk till my dick in the dirt. It's Tyler Murphy Luke.

2454
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: Look at this badass Tyler Murphy reppin MK.

2455
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. We got a little got a little

2456
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 3: smoker in the gym. Kick some ass. The other guy

2457
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 3: looks like he's bewildered. He probably listens to another MMA

2458
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 3: podcast fuck him.

2459
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so are you saying we have Christian Deguero, rising

2460
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: amateur MMA star on the come up representing MK, and

2461
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 1: now we have Tyler Murphy in the boxing gym.

2462
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, our fans will fuck you up.

2463
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: Take that and and maybe f your corpse after you.

2464
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 3: Never know, Luke, Yep, definitely, they'll definitely skull fuck you

2465
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 3: for sure. That's okay.

2466
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: You gotta steal your face. Indeed, there you go. Hey,

2467
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 1: let's go over to Sawool the absolute badass Luke, He says,

2468
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: greetings from Italy. The wife and I visited the great

2469
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 1: country of Italy for nine days. Went to Venice, Florence

2470
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 1: and Rome. Saw too much to fit in a fan sub,

2471
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: but here are some of the highighlights.

2472
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 3: Enjoy art Venice looks nice.

2473
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: Dude, Sooul from Louisville is an absolute badass. Look at

2474
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 1: this Luke. He always reps MK and he says, that's

2475
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: my lifestyle.

2476
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 3: Here he is outside the coliseum next to a fucking

2477
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 3: and nice seagullul.

2478
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: Remember we thought that little Anthony was sewel Luke because

2479
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 1: he can't he he came when I called the name

2480
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 1: at the three Margarita show.

2481
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 3: He did, now, I mean, okay, Why he's got pictures

2482
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 3: of him eating cheese with my face on his phone

2483
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 3: a little much.

2484
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: That means he's keeping track during his vacation. His wife

2485
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 1: must either hate us or love us.

2486
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 3: They love us, and she has every right to hate us.

2487
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: They might be interested in like a you know, a

2488
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 1: four person entity here.

2489
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 3: You want to bang Seoul's wife.

2490
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily what I was saying, but I was

2491
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 1: teasing at that direction for all of us, Luke, just

2492
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: no eye context.

2493
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 3: He's like, listen, you're not a real fan unless you

2494
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 3: let us fuck your wife.

2495
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 1: So good, I mean, Anderson Silva once once tried to

2496
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: solicit me over email. Never ever forget that story. That

2497
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 1: is such a good one. Wow, thank you Saul for

2498
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 1: wrapping us on the movie.

2499
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 3: That would be hilarious if we had, like you know,

2500
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 3: because I've told you, But has you ever heard of

2501
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 3: plug talk?

2502
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 4: Oh?

2503
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear of that.

2504
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 3: Or this dude who's like an awful degenerate who his

2505
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 3: name is Adam twenty two or whatever along on, Luke,

2506
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 3: do you know plug talk? No? I'm not a fucking weirdo.

2507
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 3: Yes you are, Yes you are, but anyway, Yeah, he

2508
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 3: has an interview show called No Jumper. I don't know

2509
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 3: what it's about other than I know he interviews a

2510
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 3: lot of hip hop actors or hip hop stars and

2511
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 3: his wife and him like they do porn or she

2512
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 3: does porn, I can't quite tell. But then he interviews

2513
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 3: these porn stars and then he just bangs them afterwards.

2514
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 3: We should do a show BC where we interview the

2515
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 3: wives of our listeners and then just bang them later.

2516
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 1: Ah boy, Okay, how interactive? Do you want the MK

2517
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 1: community to be? Very interacting?

2518
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's the hilarious bit. That's a hilarious bit.

2519
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 1: We closed with some photos from Derek. He says hey Luke,

2520
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 1: and Brian actually said hey Luke's meaning Long Island Luke

2521
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: as well. I'm a local Jersey City donk. And the

2522
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 1: other day, while heading into my dentist's office, I happened

2523
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: to notice the Malca Media sign on the building directory

2524
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 1: and decided to take the ten cent tour of MK's

2525
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 1: old stopping grounds. The first stop is the f is

2526
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 1: the lobby in the building, and myself making an awful

2527
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 1: face for some reason, I tried to get access to

2528
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 1: the floor, but some guys carrying boxes to the curb

2529
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 1: told me the previous tenants had been evicted for damaging

2530
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 1: the plumbing in the bathrooms. Luke, that's pretty much on brand, right.

2531
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely fucked those toilets up properly. Ok.

2532
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 1: Hey. Then Derek says, I stopped at the Producer's Annex,

2533
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:51,160
Speaker 1: which was built a house yeah during your time at Malca,

2534
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 1: and very conveniently located inside of a Taco bell indeed.

2535
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 1: And lastly, this building is the luxury apartment complex where Luke,

2536
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,919
Speaker 1: Brian and Chuck briefly we watched pornography with a stranger

2537
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 1: during a pregame preview show. That did happen, by the way,

2538
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: he had a big screen.

2539
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 3: He had a big screen right by his window, and

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Speaker 3: we got to watch pornography at his house across the street.

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Speaker 1: Derek says, thanks so much for all the good times

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Speaker 1: and memories on MK through the years. Here's too many

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Speaker 1: more in ps. Any interested donks can contact me if

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Speaker 1: they would also like to take this tour. I'll throw

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Speaker 1: in some extra stops and show you the best places

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Speaker 1: in Jersey City to be accosted by the homeless outside

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Speaker 1: of a Quiznos. That's so accurate, Luke, Derek is actually

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Speaker 1: offering an MK tour of Jersey City to our old restaurants,

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Speaker 1: our old building, the taco bell, the bathrooms right outside

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Speaker 1: the elevator.

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Speaker 3: He's taking money off of our plate. We should be

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Speaker 3: doing that. We should be given, like, you know, the

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Speaker 3: the Hyatt house that we stayed in and everything, all

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Speaker 3: the fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, what a time we had. You know, the

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Speaker 1: nostalgia came quickly for h for Jersey City for one

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Speaker 1: seventy five Montgomery, Luke, I never thought I'd want to

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Speaker 1: step foot in that hell hole again, but now I

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Speaker 1: miss it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it turns out when you remove the entire staff

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Speaker 3: of the show and all the good things that came

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Speaker 3: with it, it turns out Jersey City ain't so bad.

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Speaker 3: Ain't so bad?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that's such good stuff. Thank you, folks. For

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Speaker 1: the fans of missions, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com

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Speaker 1: is the way to reach the show. Thank you very much. Luke,

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Speaker 1: follow us, like us, follow our channels there on YouTube

2568
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:29,840
Speaker 1: right you can check out our socials. Also continue to

2569
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Speaker 1: support Long Island. Luke Nocita main Card Minute podcast will

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Speaker 1: be back this Saturday, I assume for UFC Edmonton and

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Speaker 1: maybe a long hit or two with Gaff Pierre. Is

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Speaker 1: that is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: No, that is very accurate. Eight pm in the East

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Speaker 2: will be live. Plenty of Bond hits, plenty of bed bro.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever take your girlfriend on dates? Yes, just

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Speaker 3: not on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: She knows.

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Speaker 3: Saturday's my day, right, Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Horidays are for the boys.

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Speaker 4: Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody knows that, right.

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Speaker 3: It's for the art.

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Speaker 1: There it is Luke Thomas. We wish you and your

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Speaker 1: family and your wonderful dog so well. God bless you

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02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:02,520
Speaker 1: day by day, minute by minute.

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Speaker 3: Let's see how it goes. Man. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There it is there, it is everybody. You can pick

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Speaker 1: ten percent off Live ten l i v E one zero.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Rich Franklin, Vice President One

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Speaker 1: Championship for joining the program for Long Island, Luke for

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Speaker 1: the real Luke for Salawul and all of our great

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02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 1: listeners out there, and Salwool's wife apparently, and this is

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Speaker 1: your boy BC. We love you guys. Have a great weekend,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the fights. We're out of here.