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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, some interesting comments from

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, who's not always set out spoken, a very

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Speaker 1: facing a backup quarterback may not be ideal at least

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Speaker 1: not this week, and maybe that's just me. It's Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode three twenty eight, and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right,

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Speaker 1: throws near sight of Fritz Bob he hes into the

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Speaker 1: So over his seventeen seasons in the NFL, Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: MJ has done a very good job and he's learned

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Speaker 1: from some of the best to have played here ahead

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Speaker 1: of him. During these media sessions of saying a lot

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Speaker 1: without saying anything, if you kind of understand what I mean,

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Speaker 1: because it's not often that he will say something that

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Speaker 1: that it's controversial, but unlike Fits so earlier today, I

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Speaker 1: thought for me anyway, And unlike fits comments when he

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Speaker 1: was asked about is Sunday a must win game, not

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Speaker 1: only did he agree, but he reiterated it is a

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Speaker 1: far as what a must win game means. Yet it

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Speaker 1: is I thought interested And maybe it was maybe more

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Speaker 1: but putting that pressure on the team that you go

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Speaker 1: to New York, this is a must win game here

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Speaker 1: and only week five. Yeah, you know, I would have

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Speaker 1: thought after the Lions game, you know, I always talk

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Speaker 1: I mean there are, I mean, Kylo says they're all

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Speaker 1: must wins. It's just when you lose two in a

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Speaker 1: is this is a get back game. They got to

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Speaker 1: get this game back. And the problem is though, and

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Speaker 1: you just can't leave out the AFC teams, but you

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Speaker 1: want to win NFC games, but this is the next

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Speaker 1: they only played one division game and they have a

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Speaker 1: but losing to their Lions and the Panthers, that's going

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Speaker 1: So take care of business against the AFC and obviously

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Speaker 1: the biggest game there will likely be the Buffalo game

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Speaker 1: against the AFC East now by definition only an elimination

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Speaker 1: Yet I understand what Fitz was talking about because he

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Speaker 1: So again we know that you know it was going

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough against Seattle the Monday night game,

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Speaker 1: The other player that addressed the media earlier on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: as he does every Thursday, just like Larry Fitzgerald, Patrick Peterson,

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Speaker 1: and I thought a very honest Patrick Peterson addressed the

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Speaker 1: as Peterson mentioned, they're not getting beat. It's when it's

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Speaker 1: and it's not gimmicky. Everyone every team does it. But

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Speaker 1: And it's no different than what we talked a year

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Speaker 1: Teams are continue to use it. Heck, they might even

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Speaker 1: It's the fourth quarter, it's anyone's ball game. One bad snap,

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Speaker 1: one mad mistake, and all of a sudden, you know

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Speaker 1: they're celebrating their first win. So again, where we are

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Speaker 1: right now, certainly very confident. They'll all say this. And

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Speaker 1: I mentioned to you before the show, and you even

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Speaker 1: kind of noticed it yesterday when I was talking about

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold not being on the field, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco. The one thing about this is Flacco. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been playing a lot, but this is a

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Speaker 1: veteran quarterback who's a backup. He's been a starter in

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Speaker 1: this league. He's led the Ravens to multiple playoff appearances.

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Speaker 1: This is not just oh ho hum backup because we

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Speaker 1: need a backup, or it's a journeyman backup. This is

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Speaker 1: a legitimate starting NFL quarterback. Now his best days are

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Speaker 1: behind him, but now he's stepping up with a full

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Speaker 1: week of practice. It's going to certainly look a lot

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Speaker 1: difference because, as Vance Joseph said, you know what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get. Flacco is gonna stand in the pocket, Darnal

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Speaker 1: was more mobile. Yet for some reason, MJ there's a

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Speaker 1: part of me that just not scared or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But I would prefer Darnal just because with Flacco, he's

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Speaker 1: seen defenses. He can stand there. If he has the

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Speaker 1: time to kind of dissect what the Cardinals are doing,

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Speaker 1: and if he's got some receivers who can catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: then maybe they can move the ball up and down

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Speaker 1: the field. Maybe. Again, maybe it's just me, but when

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Speaker 1: you have someone like Joe Flacco backing up that all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, I think changes things just a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: rather face m Flacco because Donald is that he could

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Speaker 1: be athletic. I just I think they're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, time of possession total place, but they

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Speaker 1: you know, they can't afford to go three and out.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see a lot of Frank Gore and likely

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Speaker 1: Levion Bell. So that's a good one too punch, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously Gore's more probably short yardage Bells effective in the

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Speaker 1: in the screen game, and then they'll take some shots

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Speaker 1: down the field to kind of loosen up the Cardinals, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, defense. But I do think they're gonna run

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Speaker 1: the ball. And the fact is a Flacco, he really

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Speaker 1: is a statue of liberty. But he can make this,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't think he's very mobile. And he's

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Speaker 1: gonna hold on under the ball because he has him

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Speaker 1: played in a while, and he's going to try to

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Speaker 1: make the right read. You know, because Dave Brown always

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Speaker 1: told me, if you see a guy open, throw it

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Speaker 1: to him. Don't worry about it because and now I

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Speaker 1: was referring to an undrafted free agent quarterback. He would

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Speaker 1: always into because he's got guy was trying to make

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Speaker 1: the perfect throw, and he said, just when you find

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Speaker 1: a guy open, just throw it to him. I think

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Speaker 1: Flack was going to go through his progressions, but he's

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Speaker 1: not very mobile outside the pocket. Now, just for fun,

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Speaker 1: I went back and looked at Flacco's history against the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and also against Vance Joseph. This is his thirteenth

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Speaker 1: year in the league. He's one and one in two

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Speaker 1: starts against the Cardinals. Beat the Cardinals in twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: and then lost in twenty fifteen at Arizona. Tyron Matthew,

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Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney, Frosty Rucker each had a sack. Tony Jefferson

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Speaker 1: had an interception, and we of course know how exciting

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen was for the Cardinals up until the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game. And then the history against Vanch Joseph. First,

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Speaker 1: when Joseph was the head coach of the Broncos, he

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Speaker 1: beats the Broncos in twenty eighteen, throwing for two hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy seven yards with one touchdown and he was

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Speaker 1: sacked twice. And then he beat Vanch Joseph when he

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Speaker 1: was the Dolphins defensive coordinator in twenty sixteen and he

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Speaker 1: lit up the Dolphins defense that afternoon for three hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty one yards, four touchdowns, one interception. It was

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Speaker 1: his best game that season. So there is some tape

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Speaker 1: and Joseph certainly is aware of what Flacco has the

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Speaker 1: potential to do. If the question is he able to

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Speaker 1: do that this week? Well, he doesn't have the same

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Speaker 1: skill position, play, probably the same coaching. Now he's the

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Speaker 1: guy that knocked Peyton Manning out of the postseason at

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Speaker 1: Division Round. I think it was Jacobe Jones got back

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Speaker 1: behind the coverage and he went eleven touchdowns, no intercepts,

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Speaker 1: played four postseason games and they won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: so I can appreciate those numbers, but they don't. He

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Speaker 1: was on a good team and defensively they were forced

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Speaker 1: to be reckoned with and then you look at, you know,

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Speaker 1: just a running game. They had the wideouts, the tight ends,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. So he uster her when he was

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens, the Broncos not as much. And the

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Speaker 1: Jets to me that I just depleted at the skill

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Speaker 1: position players. It's a good point. And again maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just me and we can all have a good laugh

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Speaker 1: on Sunday on Cardinal Talks. As my concerns maybe hopefully

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Speaker 1: or not. Well, I don't want him to throw go

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Speaker 1: thirty five for forty three hundred and fifty yards and

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00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, because then there's quarterback controversy in New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: although Flacco did when he addressed the Jets media earlier

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Speaker 1: this week. He's looking to prove and show and change

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Speaker 1: that narrative that he can still be a starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: in this league. But I think again, the best days

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Speaker 1: of his are behind him now. He did get a

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Speaker 1: little bit of work on that Thursday night contest against

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. He was on the field for four snaps

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Speaker 1: when Sam Darnell was having that shoulder looked at. He

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Speaker 1: was two of two for sixteen yards. So not much

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Speaker 1: film on Flacco, and coach Joseph mentioned they watched some

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Speaker 1: Flacco film from Denver last season. And then when you're

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Speaker 1: just looking at this Jets offense as a whole, if

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Speaker 1: Levian Bell is activated off injured reserve, he's been practicing

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Speaker 1: all week, he's eligible to return. Hurt his hamstring in

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Speaker 1: Week one against the Bills, he doesn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of tape. I'll only carry the ball six times in

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Speaker 1: that Week one contest. So you're looking at guys who

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Speaker 1: have great resumes, including a Frank Gore. Just are they

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Speaker 1: passed their prime? Has the game kind of gone along

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00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: and left them behind? I think, you know, when it

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Speaker 1: comes to keys and X factor, I just think you

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Speaker 1: want to keep flack one inside the pocket. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to run. He may run out of bounds to

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Speaker 1: try to get close to a first down, maybe feel position,

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Speaker 1: but keep in the pocket, make him make the tight throws.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll talk about the Cardinals getting some turnovers

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Speaker 1: because that will go a long way to help the offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe not only some takeaways, but some pressure. How about

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones having one of those multi sack games like

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Speaker 1: he did a year ago against the New York Giants,

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Speaker 1: same stadium, different team. Maybe this and the prime time

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Speaker 1: as far as the New York media and that market size,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is the week for Chandler Jones to kind

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Speaker 1: of get on track, if you will, because I think

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Speaker 1: we've all waiting for him after that one sack performance

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Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. So and especially if Beckton

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Speaker 1: is unable to go. He's got a shoulder issue, has

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Speaker 1: not practiced Wednesday or today, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: what do you do at left tackle? And there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a significant drop off because Beckton had been

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Speaker 1: playing pretty well for the Jets. Well last week, Russell

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Speaker 1: oh Kong didn't play little plate and he did a

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Speaker 1: really good job on Chandler. But I agree with you

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Speaker 1: that's if you don't have your starting left tackle, and

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Speaker 1: they obviously invested a high pick in Beckton, then there

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Speaker 1: should be a drop off. And you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know the situation on Kinnard. He was out there journey

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Speaker 1: open portion still looks like he's rehapping his calf injury

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Speaker 1: and to me, that means more time for Hassan Reddick

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Speaker 1: and Kylie fits So we'll just have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: But clearly, when you're you don't have your left tackle

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Speaker 1: guy they picked very high in the draft, there should

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Speaker 1: be a drop off, good transition. They're good teas forward

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Speaker 1: MJ's we let the Bird gang know. If you enjoy

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Speaker 1: The injury reports is out, which is what I was

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Speaker 1: alluding to MJ and Devon Canard even though he was

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Speaker 1: seen during the open portion of practice working out on

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Speaker 1: the side and once again did not practice because of

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Speaker 1: that calf injury. So he has not practiced now and

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Speaker 1: more than almost two weeks, did not practice at all

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Speaker 1: last week and the first two days this week, so

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Speaker 1: certainly trending in the direction of no Cannard, which would mean,

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Speaker 1: as you said, more Kylie Fitz, perhaps some Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: the linebacker position, specifically rushing the quarterback. But Joseph was

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Speaker 1: about Kennard's absence earlier today instead quote, he's obviously been

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Speaker 1: missed because as we point out, who's that guy opposite

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Speaker 1: a Chandler Jones, who's going to take with the pressure

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Speaker 1: off and without Canard on the field, who has been

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Speaker 1: playing well, someone needs to step up. Yeah, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's been a good addition. I've mentioned, he's gritty,

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Speaker 1: he's physical, he sets the edge. But it's still earlier

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Speaker 1: than the season and you know, hopefully you know, calf

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Speaker 1: Handy's growings high ankle sprains, they can linger and it's

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Speaker 1: really difficult because he's got really thick legs and a

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Speaker 1: calf muscle is where you're push off when you're trying

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Speaker 1: to run and stuff like that. So it may be

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Speaker 1: best just to hold him out and try to get

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Speaker 1: him healthy for the Seattle if not the Dallas scheme.

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Speaker 1: Also on the injury report, Jordan Phillips did not practice

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Speaker 1: today because of illness. But some good nos with respect

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Speaker 1: to the health of the safety position. Chris Banjo on

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Speaker 1: the field and a limited capacity. It's the first time

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Speaker 1: he's been able to practice since hurting his hamstrings. So

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Speaker 1: you got Buddha, Baker, maybe Chris Banjo as a possibility,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Deontay Thompson and the safety position,

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Speaker 1: and that all of a sudden looks a lot better

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Speaker 1: than where we were a week ago at this time

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Speaker 1: night and day. I mean, just adding Buddha and you know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't know about Jayleen Thompson and Chris Banjo on Monday.

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Speaker 1: It was nice to see Banjo out there, even though

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Speaker 1: it was limited. It just gives you a sense of

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Speaker 1: security where you're not relying. And we know that Curtis

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Speaker 1: Ridley's on the practice squad, so you look at your starters,

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Speaker 1: you know, Deontay Thompson, Buddha, then you can throw in Banjo.

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Speaker 1: We don't know about TJ. Ward. Maybe they can make

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Speaker 1: a move over the weekend. It seems like they've done that,

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Speaker 1: but that's more for obviously position flexibility. And I'd be

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Speaker 1: surprised if Jayleen Thompson is an option this week just

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Speaker 1: because he hasn't been on the practice field. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: been designated to return as of yet. So maybe one

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Speaker 1: more week for Jayleen Thompson and then that secondary will

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Speaker 1: once again be full strength. Speak of full strength DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins again, MJ no issue with the ankle of whatsoever

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Speaker 1: he's practicing, so all his rights and Mike Jarecki's World

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, and I did notice him

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Speaker 1: out there, and he did have the small tape job

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Speaker 1: on his ankle, obviously for precaution, but reps, reps, reps, reps, execution.

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Speaker 1: So I understand. You know, Larry doesn't practice on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 1: Corey Peters had a day off. Once we get ladder

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00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: in the season, we'll have more guys. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's important for him to be out there and running

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Speaker 1: the routes and running the route tree, and it only

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Speaker 1: can help him on game day. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: any question about that, although he certainly has produced when

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Speaker 1: he is on the field on Sundays. The entire offense,

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Speaker 1: though in general, wasn't great against the Panthers. Before we

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Speaker 1: was up shop here on this Thursday edition, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: covered too, presented by Hunday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of Frank Gore doing what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: You're a student of the NFL and the history of

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Speaker 1: the game, and Frank Gore, much like a Larry Fitzgerald,

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Speaker 1: just keeps right on going. He's number three, which is

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Speaker 1: mind boggling to me. But Frank Gore is number three

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Speaker 1: on the NFL's all time rushing list, which when you

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Speaker 1: look at that list and you have a Walter Peyton

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Speaker 1: and Jim Brown and am At Smith, you're like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: which one of these guys doesn't belong? And no, Gore

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the Pro Bowls and the All Pros, the MVPs.

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Speaker 1: Yet what is he He's durable, and he's reliable, and

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Speaker 1: he's always there on Sundays given you what you need. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's very unusual for running backs to go under

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Speaker 1: a sixteen season. And I asked Larry about Frank Cord today.

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Speaker 1: And also a d which is Adrian Peterson. You know,

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Speaker 1: he wants to play a few more years and obviously

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Speaker 1: they take care of their body. He's a great room guy.

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Speaker 1: You don't hear him chirping at all. I think he's

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Speaker 1: good for the young guys in that locker room, just

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be a pro. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's remarkable that you know, and I think Gore will

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Speaker 1: get into Hall of Fame and Eli Manning and some

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Speaker 1: people will say longevity, but they put up numbers. He loves,

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Speaker 1: got two Super Bowls against the you know, the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. So I think Larry will be a first

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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. But Frank Gore definitely is worthy

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Speaker 1: of being a first ballot Hall of Famer. I remember

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Speaker 1: him in his heyday when he was with the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers. He was a tough out man. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: tackle that guy. The way he gets his paddle level down.

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Speaker 1: I thought he really started his career off really good.

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Speaker 1: And he's bounced around a little bit, but good to

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Speaker 1: see organizations and coaches and play callers know what he

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Speaker 1: can bring to the table. You don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about your phone ringing after midnight. He's just a solid pro.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting when the forty nine ers play the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Frank Gore was very open and said, yeah, all in

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Speaker 1: my career as a San Francisco forty nine er, that's

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Speaker 1: his goal, and I think the forty nine ers would

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Speaker 1: certainly be open to that. It's like, hey, you know

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Speaker 1: the one day contract, if you will you sign and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, your career ends where

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Speaker 1: it began and where you had your most success. So

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Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of attention, but certainly players no players,

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Speaker 1: and he is one of the more respected players in

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Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, like I said, you just I mean,

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Speaker 1: we see running back shelf life. You know, you get

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Speaker 1: to thirty look at to get priest homes of the world.

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Speaker 1: You know it doesn't last to take a pounding and

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Speaker 1: you leave the game, you know, in a better situation.

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Speaker 1: But this guy's just been mister reliable, mister consistent, and

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Speaker 1: mister professional. All right, MJ, you know what you got

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Speaker 1: to do, right, I know what I gotta do. Three

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Speaker 1: keys of the game and who's the X factor and

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Speaker 1: hopefully at Cardinal's goal up there and get a win.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it happens in the last minute,

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Speaker 1: but I do think they're going to play a much

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Speaker 1: better game from the first a fourth quarter. Well much

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Speaker 1: like the Cardinals. You started off hot with your three

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Speaker 1: keys and X factor started off two and oh in

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks, I don't know. So we're all

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Speaker 1: counting on you because it begins on Friday. You bring

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Speaker 1: it Friday, then I'll feel much better on Sunday. I agree,

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Speaker 1: And practice makes perfect and you know, what you do

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Speaker 1: during the week kind of dictates what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: on game day. And on that note, we'll put a

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Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Today,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of Arizona Cardinals Special Thanks as always to

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Amro. For Mike Jarecki, I'm Greig

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Speaker 1: Rayel Loup. We'll talk to you next time. Aaron Cardinals

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