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Speaker 2: All right, we got an exciting men's final going on

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Speaker 2: right now at Wimbledon. Djokovic with a five to three

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Speaker 2: lead in the fourth set, trying to get it into

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Speaker 3: We're all over that today.

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Speaker 2: But rich I got to start off the show today

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Speaker 2: with you talking about history being made by yours truly now.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday on the show, Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Was on assignment, so in came Carrie Rhoads, former NFL

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Speaker 2: player turn actor, and I mentioned the fact that I

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Speaker 2: teammate exactly the point. I become the first person ever

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Speaker 2: in the history of radio to have hosted on consecutive

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Speaker 2: days two different members of the twenty twelve Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: It has never been done before.

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Speaker 2: And I but here's the best part, Richon, So I

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Speaker 2: mentioned this to Carry yesterday and I said, so did you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Rich is an offensive lineman. You're

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Speaker 2: a defensive back. Did you have much interaction with Rich?

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Speaker 2: And he says, oh, yeah, you know Rich was like

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Speaker 2: this really serious minded guy, and uh yeah yeah. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, so, in other words, you did not know him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no one has ever accused you, you're in

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Speaker 2: your football career or any time in your life, of

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Speaker 2: being a serious minded individual. Smart guy, funny guy, but

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Speaker 2: somehow serious minded.

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Speaker 3: It did not end.

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Speaker 2: It was clear that Carrie had not had much of

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Speaker 2: an exchange with you in your one year together in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 4: Well, bus rides and plane rides and you know, lunch

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Speaker 4: table conversations like I got an opportunity to talk to

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Speaker 4: Carry a good amount. But if there is two position

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Speaker 4: groups that see the least of each other on a

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Speaker 4: football field in terms of actual gameplay and also like

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Speaker 4: and offensive line. You couldn't asked. You couldn't asked a

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Speaker 4: group basically to do anything more opposite of what those

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Speaker 4: two groups do. Offensive line have to be gigantic. Defensive

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Speaker 4: backs typically tall, good long shore but need to be skinny.

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Speaker 4: Offensive linemen need to like be you know, strong and

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Speaker 4: graceful with great hips that can open up when receivers

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Speaker 4: And I mean, like, I guess you could say it's

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Speaker 4: all one sport. You're all in one team, but there's

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Speaker 4: fifty three players, yes, and that that for sure. Like

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Speaker 4: I could tell you there would be certain cornerbacks. I know,

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Speaker 4: Carrie obviously carried me, like I told you. We had

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Speaker 4: we had conversations and he's a good dude. But there

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Speaker 4: are corners and there are safeties who during the course

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Speaker 4: of my career, if they came up to me in person,

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Speaker 4: I would assume it's the first time I'm meeting them.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was like dead serious, like oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, Rich, he's a real serious minded guy.

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Speaker 3: And i' mike. In other words, you really have no

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Speaker 2: All right, we got a lot going on. Are you

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Speaker 2: watching this tennis right now here? Rich Djokovic won the

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Speaker 3: He's the new star.

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Speaker 2: He's only twenty years of age, the number one ranked

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Speaker 2: at the French Olbu. You remember he had that weird

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the third and fourth set, he talked about

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Speaker 3: This Wimbledon final. So some good tennis going out right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's really no weakness in al Karez's game,

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Speaker 4: I mean some of the drop shots, I mean, he's incredible.

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Speaker 2: updated on what's going on at Wimbledon. Also, Rich, I

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Did you see the hole in one

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Speaker 4: I did. That was And it's so fun watching Steph

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Speaker 4: He might not even be the tallest golfer. But Steph

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Speaker 4: Curry makes more sense to my eyes on a golf

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Speaker 4: Like that makes sense. Like when Steph Curry steps foot

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Speaker 4: know it with the three point shooting that he's portrayed

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Speaker 4: of it. You know, probably get out twice a month.

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Speaker 2: You know, like, yeah, well, Tony Romo was this right,

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Speaker 2: Tony Romo was a really good golfer. He was obviously

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Speaker 3: Right, It's a different beast. I'm just kidding, if you

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Speaker 3: but when you're standing over that, you know, ten foot

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Speaker 3: like when you're a basketball player any other sport you're

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Speaker 3: used to all that noise and it's sort of you know,

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Speaker 4: I will say this, I mean to do it. I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying, yeah, maybe he could do it, but I'm

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Speaker 4: not and I'm this is I think Tony Romo was

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Speaker 4: a great football player. Yeah, I think that Tony Romo

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Speaker 4: that that killer instinct that Brady Lebron, Jordan Federer, Nadal,

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Speaker 4: the very highest side. Steph Curry has that. I failed

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Speaker 4: to mention Steph Curry, but Steph Curry has that. And

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Speaker 4: so if we're just gonna take the genetic makeup of

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Speaker 4: Tony Romo and Steph Curry and say, you know, who

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Speaker 4: would you trust more in the clutch? Just that sentence,

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Speaker 4: who would you trust more in the clutch? I mean,

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Speaker 4: if I'm answering that inquisition, that the answer is one

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Speaker 4: if we're gonna even now translate that to the golf course,

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Speaker 4: I think I'm still taking Steph Curry. And then on

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Speaker 4: top of it, I have no idea if he's a

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Speaker 4: better or worse golfer than Tony Romo. But all I'm

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Speaker 2: There actually is one former NFL player that actually won

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Speaker 4: What's his name?

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Speaker 2: His name was John Brody. He was a legendary quarterback

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Speaker 2: He's the only former athlete and ad different sport that

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Speaker 2: I covered this on an annual basis back in the day,

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Speaker 2: She did, and she came out in shorts and a

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Speaker 3: We can go down this path and go four hours

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Speaker 2: All right, On the other side, the All Star Game

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Speaker 3: He knows it all. He'll never say that but we

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Speaker 7: JP, Oh, good morning and good afternoon. I would say

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Speaker 7: I would have been around eight years old. That sounds

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Speaker 2: Eight years old, yes, and you were well versed on

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Speaker 3: Not the only one, all right, buyers and sellers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the big talk over the next couple

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Speaker 7: this roster Matt Chapman, who is a pending free agent.

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Speaker 7: He's not Otani, but he is one of the better

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Speaker 7: free agents this winter. So they are going to lose

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Speaker 7: or at least could lose some key members of the organization.

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Speaker 7: So I think they really have to go all in

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Speaker 7: right now at a little bit more offense. I would

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Speaker 7: believe maybe they add one more reliever or two, but

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Speaker 7: this is the Toronto team that's quite close. And the

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Speaker 7: longer that the New York Yankees struggle leads me to

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Speaker 7: believe that maybe the Jays have a bit more of

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Speaker 7: an opportunity than we originally thought. And I think two

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Speaker 7: that this is almost diametrically the opposite of the question

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Speaker 7: that you asked. But I look at a team like

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Speaker 7: the Baltimore Orioles. They're just starting their window. This is

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Speaker 7: by no means a World Series or bust kind of

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Speaker 7: a year. And yet look around the landscape of the

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Speaker 7: American League when you are an up and coming team

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Speaker 7: and you see teams like the Red Sox and Yankees

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Speaker 7: at the bottom of your division. To me, I say, ooh,

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Speaker 7: there's opportunity here. There's opportunity here because the Yankees and

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Speaker 7: Red Sox are very rarely struggling. I put that in

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Speaker 7: the air quotes because they're still not even below five hundred,

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Speaker 7: but they're still, by their standards struggling. At the same time,

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Speaker 7: Aaron Judge is out. Rodin has had a very start

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Speaker 7: and stop sort of beginning to his career there with

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Speaker 7: the Yankees. The Red Sox rotation has been up and down.

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Speaker 7: Take advantage of this the Oils with all their young

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Speaker 7: position player talent, whether it's show a Otani, whether it's

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Speaker 7: Marcus Strohman, whether it's Lucas Chilito. Bring in the impact

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Speaker 7: rental player now, because even though it looks like things

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Speaker 7: are just getting started. Guys, there's never a promise that

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Speaker 7: the top teams in your league traditionally are going to

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Speaker 7: be in the bottom as they are right now. Take

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Speaker 7: advantage of this year and this day.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this man. Listen to him.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to inspire, guys.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to give you sound advice. Listen to this man.

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Speaker 3: You're the absolute best JP. Enjoy the week.

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Speaker 2: The next couple week is going to be very interesting

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Speaker 2: on the MLB front. We always appreciate the time. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: the rest of your Sunday sounds.

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Speaker 7: Ray, guys really appreciate it. And by the way, I'll

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Speaker 7: be there not far from you, to see the the

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Speaker 7: Angels and Yankees this week, and then I believe I'll

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Speaker 7: be seeing you in San Diego the early part of

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Speaker 7: next month, so I'll send you a specifics. We'll have

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Speaker 7: to have another meet up at the ballpark as we

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Speaker 7: did last year, which was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love that.

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Speaker 3: All right, JP, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: There he is the great John Paul Morose here fsr

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Speaker 2: MLB insider. All right, let's find out what is trending

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Speaker 2: right now, and Moncey is here. Hi, Monsey, understand that

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Speaker 2: the only two Bill people is in the entire Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports radio family that have been to my house are

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Speaker 2: here today. Yes, that would be first Iowa Sam, right,

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Speaker 2: and then Rich.

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Speaker 4: Stornberger, and neither of us were murdered.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm looking at you, I'm looking at both.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: But what does this make us? I mean, we're the

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Speaker 8: only ones not.

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Speaker 3: It's not a matter. Well, first of all, I didn't

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Speaker 3: invite Sam.

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Speaker 9: Sam invited myself myself to a lot of things usually

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Speaker 9: works out in my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Really, he actually has he has been to more places

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Speaker 2: of people's dwelling than anybody here.

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Speaker 3: Right, how many different people's homes.

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Speaker 4: Have you been to?

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Speaker 9: Actually not that many, but probably more than others. I've

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Speaker 9: been to Jonas's house, I've been to Mike Harmon's house.

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Speaker 9: I've been your house.

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Speaker 8: I think that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I always to two of three, and I was

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Speaker 4: tied a little bit of my head say it's not

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Speaker 4: going to happen unless you ask.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say you don't ask for right, right, Sam,

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Speaker 2: Sam almost guilt of me into having him at my

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Speaker 2: house for Thanksgiving dinner like last year.

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Speaker 4: This year, I remember that. I love it was just

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Speaker 4: like he was like I just have nowhere to go, and.

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Speaker 2: I was like, America, somewhere else to go.

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Speaker 4: I love how Bo held strong, like he was like

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Speaker 4: almost but I told that who again hit the bricks

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Speaker 4: it is. I'm with my family.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gravy. I don't have enough beer or gravy

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Speaker 3: to satisfy Sam. Well, Manty, you have an open invite

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Speaker 3: if you would ever like to come.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Rich, thank you you.

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Speaker 3: Have sampled Denise's baked goss.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, no, definitely.

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Speaker 3: Try the one. They come right out of the Oh.

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Speaker 8: I can't even imagine. My mouth is watering right now.

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Speaker 9: Actually, Rich can we can we agree that Hartman's home

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Speaker 9: is a palace of falacialacial up in the up in

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Speaker 9: the the the hills sign pain for everything.

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Speaker 4: I have no.

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Speaker 8: Input, so it probably looks really great.

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Speaker 3: It's a very nice place.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, very impressed. The the the the wine cave,

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Speaker 4: I thought was an interesting touch.

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Speaker 8: I'll be there today. There's a wine. I'll be there

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Speaker 8: to day.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll arrange it, Mancy.

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Speaker 10: Please please, Fellas. I don't know how you can return

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Speaker 10: Novak Djokovic just serve.

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Speaker 8: Yeah I don't. I watched this and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 8: do you hit the ball like that?

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Speaker 10: So we're really going down to the wire at this

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Speaker 10: men's singles final at Wimbledon. It is the fifth set,

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Speaker 10: and right now Alcaa is number one seed Carlos Aukeraz

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Speaker 10: is up three games to two to Novak Djokovic.

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Speaker 8: But it really it's just Djokovic just serve is insane.

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Speaker 3: But did break his serve?

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's actually up a service break right now in

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Speaker 2: this set.

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Speaker 10: The way no, Alcaraz looks like the overall better player,

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Speaker 10: you know when he's twenty. But Djokovic serve is just insane,

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Speaker 10: but Alcaaz is wonderful.

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Speaker 8: It's just crazy watching these two.

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Speaker 10: Let's go to baseball because what was trending is Cody Bellinger,

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Speaker 10: so I decided to see why he's training, why he

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Speaker 10: was trending.

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Speaker 8: So Yankees Brian Cashman.

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Speaker 10: Was on Front Office, MLB's network radio and he basically

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Speaker 10: said that they need a left field hitter. So who

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Speaker 10: are people putting in the mix? One of the people

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Speaker 10: on a lot of fans on Twitter are saying that

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Speaker 10: the Yankee should go for Cody Bellinger.

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Speaker 8: Who has had a pretty good season with the Cups.

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Speaker 3: He started ala, he.

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Speaker 8: Had a Grand Slam yesterday.

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Speaker 10: So that is what Twitter is saying right now, that

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Speaker 10: the Yankees should go for Cody Bellinger. But right now

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Speaker 10: in Major League Baseball, one game really going on because

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Speaker 10: the rest just started or are on a rain delay.

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Speaker 10: Giants beating the Pirates three to one bottom of the

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Speaker 10: fifth inning. The NFL's deadline for franchise tag players to

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Speaker 10: get multi year deals is tomorrow, Monday at four pm

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Speaker 10: Eastern time, So franchise tight end Evan Ingram and the

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Speaker 10: Jaguars reached an agreement on a three year contract with

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Speaker 10: forty one million dollars that includes forty or excuse me,

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Speaker 10: includes twenty four million guaranteed. And then Rory McElroy did

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Speaker 10: win the Genesis Scottish Open today. He ended fifteen under

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Speaker 10: par overall, one shot ahead of Robert McIntyre. And the

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Speaker 10: Suns are making lots of moves, so they're trading Campaign,

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Speaker 10: a second rounder and cash to the Spurs for a

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Speaker 10: future second round pick. They've acquired bol Bowl to a

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Speaker 10: one year deal, and they also acquired three second rounders

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Speaker 10: from Orlando for a draft pick swap. This is all

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Speaker 10: according to the Athletic. Bradley Bill is set to possibly

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Speaker 10: be their starting point guard. That is their plan going

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Speaker 10: into training.

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Speaker 3: Real is a point guard.

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Speaker 8: That is their training camp plan.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting plan for a guy that does pretty

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Speaker 2: much nothing but shoot.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but not who's left now.

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Speaker 3: The no, that's you got three shooters. You got Bil,

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Speaker 3: Booker and Duran, none of which have ever appeared on

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Speaker 3: any all defensive teams.

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Speaker 2: You hired a defensive minded coach and Frank Vogel. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how this is going to work with the.

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Speaker 8: Second not sure.

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure, but that's how he's going to enter

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Speaker 10: training camp as a projected starting point guard craising.

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Speaker 3: All right, Monci again, open invite for you, definitely, that

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Speaker 3: Socarez held serve. He's up four to two.

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Speaker 2: Now up a service break in this fifth and deciding

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Speaker 2: set course for Djokovic, if he were to.

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Speaker 3: Win, all kinds of records would be tied.

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Speaker 2: Three major records, he would tie the record for most

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Speaker 2: consecutive Wimbledon's one. It would be his fifth in a row.

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Speaker 2: He would tie Federer for most wins by a man

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Speaker 2: in Wimbledon history eight, and his twenty fourth major title

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Speaker 2: would tie Margaret Court for the most total majors won

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Speaker 2: by a man or a woman. However, I don't know

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Speaker 2: this Alcarez kid is he is good man?

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Speaker 3: This is some really good tennis.

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Speaker 4: Right now, we'll tell you it's cyclical sports. We always

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Speaker 4: have this feeling when we're in a era, especially when

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Speaker 4: it's your era, you know, your teenage years into your twenties,

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Speaker 4: maybe that extends through your twenties into your thirties, where

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Speaker 4: you're watching the same great players dominate the sports that

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Speaker 4: you enjoy. And when that's the case, you get this

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Speaker 4: feeling of like, man, when they retire, what's next? Who

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Speaker 4: could possibly fill the void when these greats end up

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Speaker 4: stepping aside, And it always seems like there's somebody waiting

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Speaker 4: in the wings to jump into the league, whatever league,

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Speaker 4: whether it's pro tennis or it's golf for its or

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Speaker 4: it's the NBA or NFL, NHL, MLB, and there's somebody

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Speaker 4: waiting to take over. And mostly because the great players

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Speaker 4: who have just moved on from the sport or are

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Speaker 4: in the twilight of their careers have motivated and have

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Speaker 4: modeled the greatness for the next generation. And there's no

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Speaker 4: doubt the reason why Alcaraz has admitted some nerves is

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Speaker 4: because Joker and Federer and Nadal, his peers now as

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Speaker 4: a twenty year old, are people who motivated him to

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Speaker 4: this level of greatness.

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Speaker 2: Well, feder Coors now is retired, Nadal has taken the

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Speaker 2: year off. He says next year will be as fine

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Speaker 2: a year. So this is the major hur By the way, Djokovic,

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Speaker 2: if he were to somehow rally and win this Wimbledon,

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Speaker 2: he would have a chance for a US Open Championship,

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Speaker 2: for a calendar Grand Slam that has not happened since

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine with Rod Laver. So a lot on

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Speaker 2: the line here, but right now, all right, Djokovic just

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Speaker 2: held serve so Alcarez will be serving up four to

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Speaker 2: three and a service break there at Wimbledon. Let me

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Speaker 2: ask a quick question here, rich and it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a weird question. So yesterday we had the

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Speaker 2: women's final, we had an unseated player win the women's final.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's sort of a circuit right now. That's

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Speaker 2: looking for a new star with this Williams sisters, you know,

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Speaker 2: Serena now retired and of course Venus, you know, well

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Speaker 2: into her forties. They've had these women that, you know,

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Speaker 2: like Naomi Osaka, she went a few and then she

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Speaker 2: sort of fell by the wayside, and we just haven't

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Speaker 2: you know, they've been talking about Coco Gop but she

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Speaker 2: has yet to win a Grand Slam.

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Speaker 3: But here's the amazing thing.

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Speaker 2: So the women have made a lot of progs, but

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Speaker 2: the women's champion, the woman that won yesterday, will get

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Speaker 2: the exact same pai check as the winner of this match.

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Speaker 3: And I am certainly a.

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Speaker 2: Big advocate of equal pay for equal play. But in

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Speaker 2: the women's game, they played two out of three sets,

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Speaker 2: and the men they play three out of five. I

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Speaker 2: don't how do you feel about that? I mean, because

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Speaker 2: my feeling is the women are certainly capable of playing

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Speaker 2: three out of five, so why don't they? If the

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Speaker 2: pay is equal, then they should all play the same

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Speaker 2: amount of tennis.

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Speaker 3: Well, in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there are people who share that opinion. But

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Speaker 4: I've always been a fan of less is more in sports.

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Speaker 3: So you would like the men then to do two

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Speaker 3: out of three instead of three out of five.

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Speaker 4: I almost always prefer more expedited, urgent sports seasons and games.

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Speaker 4: I think I think sports are more interesting when when

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Speaker 4: we are we are rushed to conclusions that sometimes we're

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Speaker 4: uncomfortable with. Like I don't mind, I really don't. I

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Speaker 4: don't mind the idea of like a wild card in

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Speaker 4: major League Baseball after a slog of a one hundred

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Speaker 4: and sixty two game season being decided in a single game.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a beautiful expression of sports, that

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Speaker 4: you could have this insane marathon come to a halting

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Speaker 4: conclusion with one bad night. I loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 4: I think it's exactly what it's the spirit of sports.

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Speaker 4: Sports can be. It can be the greatest lift and

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Speaker 4: the highest level of elation that you'll experience as a

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Speaker 4: fan or certainly as a player, and I built my

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Speaker 4: life around that feeling. Or it can be crushing and

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Speaker 4: it's not fair. Sometimes sometimes you're starting pitcher had a

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Speaker 4: bad night. Sometimes you're you're starting lineup, your your your bats.

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Speaker 4: They just didn't produce. Sometimes somebody gets injured. That's sport.

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Speaker 4: And so I am a big proponent of less is more,

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Speaker 4: and so I have no problem with the women receiving

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Speaker 4: the same pay for their Wimbledon as the men, because frankly,

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Speaker 4: I like the I like the concept better. And then

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Speaker 4: on the other side of it, the women rate, Like

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Speaker 4: when we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Well, the women don't rate now. They did when you

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Speaker 2: had Serio Williams. But I'm saying Scheryl Paulva. You got

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Speaker 2: cudars on the women's side, but right now you don't.

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Speaker 2: So you know, that's lightly anonymous woman winning Wimbledon yesterday

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Speaker 2: and she gets the same paycheck as the right on

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Speaker 2: the other side.

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Speaker 4: But my point is, my point is like, this isn't

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Speaker 4: the w NBA NBA conversation, this isn't the women's soccer pace.

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Speaker 2: It's the only sport where women make equal pay well

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Speaker 2: and the only.

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Speaker 4: Sport and it's also a sport where you look at

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Speaker 4: the television ratings for the women's tennis side, and like

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Speaker 4: you said, when they're star driven, same as men's by

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Speaker 4: the way, when they have stars, they just do half

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Speaker 4: stars now playing well, then the ratings are fairly equivalent

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Speaker 4: as well, And so I do think it's fair, all right.

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Speaker 2: No one was watching yesterday on the women's fine, nobody

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Speaker 2: just because you're you don't have Serena anymore.

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Speaker 4: Were you watching? No? I was not. I was not.

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Speaker 4: Why I'm factor, I thought owns J was going to win.

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Speaker 4: Do this to us all right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we got some nbareviews up day

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve Harbin and Rich Herberger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the Tyraq dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. All right, we're thirty all in the current

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Speaker 2: game going on with Ocarez serving to win Wimbledon. The

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Speaker 2: athleticism of this twenty year old is ridiculous. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and now he has match point, match point coming up

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Speaker 2: for Acarez trying to knock out four time defending champions seven.

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Speaker 2: I'm Wimbledon champion, twenty three time major champion Novak Djokovic.

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Speaker 2: So we would we could definitely see a changing of

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Speaker 2: the guard in men's tennis literally on this next point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is how torches our past.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've we've seen great battle in individual or

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Speaker 4: team sports, and we've seen outcomes that have ushered in

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Speaker 4: new generations, and this could be one of them. It's

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Speaker 4: it's interesting, and.

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Speaker 2: There it is right there. Alkarez has just one Wimbledon.

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Speaker 2: He has just defeated Novak Djokovic.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because what happens when when we see things

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Speaker 4: like this in major sports, like you know, in the

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Speaker 4: NFL where Brady and Mahomes face each other in a

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, you know, the feeling is well, geez, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're kind of rooting for Tom Brady because Kenny really

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Speaker 4: do it, you know, at the at the advanced age,

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Speaker 4: can he beat the youngest, brightest star in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: But at the same token, you are rooting for the

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Speaker 4: new guy. You're thinking to yourself, well, wouldn't it benefit

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Speaker 4: all of us more if the next era is as

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Speaker 4: good as the last? And so in that matchup, obviously

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Speaker 4: the old goat won. In this one, there's a new

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Speaker 4: sheriff in town. Alcarez is your Wimbledon champion? Yeah, he is.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when you think about and we see

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Speaker 2: this in a lot of sports, where someone is a protege,

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Speaker 2: someone that's so young a sense to the top of

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Speaker 2: their sport. And Alcarez has done that at the age

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Speaker 2: of twenty. Remember last year, as a nineteen year old,

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Speaker 2: he won the US Open.

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Speaker 3: So he is that.

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Speaker 2: And it's always amazing when you see interviews with a

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Speaker 2: lot of athletes that have really early success they look

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Speaker 2: back saying I wish I could have appreciated it more

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Speaker 2: when it was happening, Like you know, I, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're young, there's no other distractions. I mean, Djokovic, I've

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Speaker 2: say it's a family that's part of it for athletes.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have a family, you get married and

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Speaker 2: suddenly you know. But when you're this young and it's

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Speaker 2: the only thing you're doing, sometimes it may take in

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Speaker 2: a little time. So anyway, we're up against it right now.

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Speaker 3: But there it is.

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Speaker 2: Carlos Awkarez is your Wimbledon champion. Djokovic still one short

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Speaker 2: of tying that all time record for career Grand Slams.

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Speaker 2: Should get another opportunity coming up at the US Open.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have a number of NBA trade rumors,

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Speaker 2: all the latest. Don't go anywhere with much more to come,

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Speaker 2: keep it right here. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So they having the trophy presentation right now, Novak Djokovic

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Speaker 2: handed the silver plate for runner up.

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Speaker 3: He chucked it into the stands. No he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He was very gracious and very complimentary. Now, of Alcarez

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Speaker 2: after Acarez won Wimbledon. That Wimbledon trophy, that's a cool trophy.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, right, yea.

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Speaker 4: That's you know, trophies vary, they do.

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Speaker 2: There are some famous trophies that you really look at him, like,

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Speaker 2: like the World Cup. Like, the World Cup trophy is

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Speaker 2: so small. It's like, here's the biggest sporting event in

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Speaker 2: the world that only happens every four years. You would

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Speaker 2: think that the World Cup trophy would be a little

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Speaker 2: more substantial. But the Wimbledon Men's trophy. Course, the women

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Speaker 2: have the plate, which I actually think is pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 3: But that's a good looking trophy, that gold trophy there.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's just it's exactly it's like the trophy emoji

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Speaker 4: on your your emoji list, Like he looks like a trophy.

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Speaker 4: That's what they look like, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that looks worthy of being Wimbledon Men's champion.

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Speaker 4: And I'll give you my second favorite. You know, I

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Speaker 4: never noticed that the Wimbledon trophy has a pineapple on

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Speaker 4: top of it. It does, yes, which is mind blowing.

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Speaker 4: But the Stanley Cup is my favorite. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: hands down by far. The fact that they etch every

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Speaker 4: winner on the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 2: The fact that crazy how many names I had a

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Speaker 2: picture taken with that cup when the Ducks won it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's impressive.

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Speaker 4: It's cool, man, Yeah, it's cool and it's gigantic.

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Speaker 2: And then they give that, you know, they give the

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup to the team and then each team member

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Speaker 2: has it for a certain amount of time.

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Speaker 3: And who knows everything that's been done with that cup.

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Speaker 4: Of that cup?

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Speaker 2: Talk absolutely, Hey, you know. Another thing in the news

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Speaker 2: was Lebron James has decided to forfeit the number six

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Speaker 2: again and go back to is number twenty three. In

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Speaker 2: fourteen of twenty seasons he's worn the number twenty three.

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Speaker 3: But then what was it? It was about Jordan because

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Speaker 3: Jordan wore twenty three and then he was forty five.

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Speaker 3: I don't you know me rich for whatever reason, because

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Speaker 3: I am a numbers junkie in sports uniform numbers, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm blind to them.

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Speaker 2: I'm literally like people like they'll name a famous athlete

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Speaker 2: and they'll say what number does he wear?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's your your brain, I think needs to be

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Speaker 4: donated to science because I don't really I don't really

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Speaker 4: understand how it works. And I've been working with you

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Speaker 4: for close to a decade.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I because I remember all these obscure numbers

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Speaker 2: in sports, you know, whether it's batting average or whatever, the.

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Speaker 3: Numbers can be, the uniform numbers. I just go blank

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Speaker 3: on him.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, all right. Let me think of like a

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Speaker 4: relatively famous guy who you should know, like like Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 4: What was his number? Nine? Ten? I think was he nine? Ten?

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Speaker 4: Might be nine.

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Speaker 3: I mean people would even say like Tom Brady, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, you're right, You're right, Carson Palmer war

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Speaker 3: nine nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I got some of those single digits, but

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Speaker 2: like you pretty good? Fifteen, fourteen, eighteen, seventeen?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah? Actually that what does patrick? Patrick Mahomes waar well?

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Speaker 3: I think now because I said fifteen the only By

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Speaker 3: the way, are you watching that show Quarterback?

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Speaker 4: I am?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I saw the first episode. This is

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Speaker 2: on Netflix. It's the production company of Peyton Manning and

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Speaker 2: it follows three quarterbacks through all of last season from

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Speaker 2: beginning to end, behind the scenes stuff and everything else.

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Speaker 3: So it's got Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: One number did Peyton manningwear?

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Speaker 3: Eighteen?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Dude, you're better at this than you're given credit, only

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Speaker 3: because I might have just seen it Kirk Cousins and

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Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota, and I thought it was brilliant because they

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00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: really you think back to the beginning of last year obviously,

871
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: when they made these.

872
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Choices, they were three guys in very different stages of

873
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: their career. So brilliant casting, by the way. I just

874
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: I just wonder when they pull back the curtain, Like

875
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: there was this one scene I only saw the first episode,

876
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 2: but the first scene, Uh, there's Patrick Mahomes with his wife.

877
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: They're expecting their second child, and she has all these

878
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: pictures that she wants to get done, and you can

879
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: just see as total.

880
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: Disdain for taking pictures.

881
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so she says something like he hates taking pictures,

882
00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, most guys hate taking pictures also, correct,

883
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: most of us if we're dragged into one of those,

884
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: hey take some you know, you remember like when you

885
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: got engaged or wedding photos, you know, and you're just

886
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: when is this going to be over? So I'm just

887
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: thinking I'm watching him, thinking, yeah, that's every guy. Like

888
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: she's like, she's like, yeah, you know you think of

889
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: it like he's outgoing, but he really hates taking pictures.

890
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's like every dude hates taking.

891
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: There is nothing there's a lot that's unique about Patrick Mahomes.

892
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 4: That's not one of them.

893
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: That's a very regular guy thing, regular guy thing. Would

894
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: you would you do that?

895
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: Though?

896
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: Would you would you open up your private life to

897
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: the cameras?

898
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 4: Good question in some ways, you know, doing what we do,

899
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: I've had to. It's it's not the most comfortable thing

900
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: to share more about yourself than you're really like innately

901
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: willing to. There are certain people who love fame. There

902
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: are certain people who like their goal when they set

903
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: out on whatever path they set out was to be

904
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: famous because they wanted the people to know that. That's

905
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 4: a great example. The Paris Hilton, I think just enjoyed

906
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: the limelight. I mean it's just, you know, it's it's

907
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: one of those things where and then there's certain you know,

908
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 4: people who were great at doing whatever their given field,

909
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: Actresses or actors who really do appear to love fame.

910
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 4: Athletes certainly, you know, I mean Terrell or Chado Chosinko.

911
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 4: I mean, there's certain people who love the camera. But

912
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: but there's there's definitely more. I would argue that don't

913
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 4: And since Patrick Mahomes, I mean, his goal is to

914
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: be the greatest football player ever. Like, it's very clear

915
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: he set his sights.

916
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he's only five more Super Bowls away from

917
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: tying Tom Brady, and I mean that's nothing.

918
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: And he's a young man and he's on a similar trajectory.

919
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: You argue, you could argue a better trajectory early in

920
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 4: his career.

921
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: His five straight AFC championship games yep, yeah, three super

922
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: Bowl appearances, two super Bowl wins. But Tom Brady already

923
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: had three super Bowl championships in his first four years.

924
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: He didn't have sur MVPs though he did not he

925
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: had zero at that point.

926
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're they're well. So again, some would argue

927
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: the point I'm trying to make, though, is this is

928
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 4: what he's good at. He's not necessarily good at being

929
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: famous famous. Being good at being famous is actually a skill.

930
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: We've learned that over the years. Yeah, I mean, and

931
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 4: so I don't necessarily think he's bad at it, but

932
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: I also don't think he's particularly great at it, and

933
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: it's because he doesn't particularly care for it. Now, it

934
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 4: looks to me like Patrick Mahomes is about one thing

935
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 4: or maybe two things, having fun, which he's clearly having

936
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: fun and playing amazing football and getting as good at

937
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 4: the sport as he possibly can, and being a good teammate.

938
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: Tag that along with the other two. I mean, it

939
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: just that's what it appears to me. Now. The people

940
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: in his ga Alexy, the people in his orbit, like

941
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: his wife, like his brother, those people appear to really

942
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: enjoy the fame. There's no question in my mind, like,

943
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: based on what I've seen, what I've seen from Patrick

944
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: is very different than what I've seen from Brittany, his wife,

945
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: and Jackson, his brother.

946
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: By the way, Kirk Cousins, at least early on comes

947
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: off is about an average guy as humanly possible. His

948
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: wife talked about the fact that, yeah, they shot for

949
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: his shirts at Target right, and they have a considering

950
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: how much money he makes. They have a pretty modest home.

951
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: It just looks like a pretty normal middle class home

952
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: you know in Minnesota, which you know is now the

953
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: same price tag if you were living in southern California.

954
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

955
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I always appreciate certain guys that have an

956
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: understanding that as an ath let. Your life as an

957
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: athlete is short. Yeah, in terms of the spectrum of

958
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: your entire life.

959
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: And your earning potential drops off a cliff which.

960
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: Completely goes from wherever you're at to zero. You have

961
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: to start over again. And the idea, well, I could

962
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: just I'll be an announcer. There aren't many of those

963
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: jobs available, you know, and then you could go into

964
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: coaching or make plans outside of that. You know, yesterday

965
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: in talking with Carrie Rhodes, he actually works rich with

966
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: athletes to help sort of prepare that next step you

967
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: know after you know, because he was into you know,

968
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: he became an actor and everything else, but it was

969
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: something that he had an interest in long before he even.

970
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: Got into college.

971
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: So it was already that was like in his mind,

972
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 2: like that's where I want to go while he's playing

973
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Do you think the NFL does a

974
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: good enough job of sort of prepping guys for life

975
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: after football.

976
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: No, but that's not their goal, right, you know. I mean,

977
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 4: let's be very honest, it's nor is it really their responsibility.

978
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 4: It's just there the effort that they pay attention, or

979
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: I should say, the effort that they put into paying

980
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 4: attention to players post career is for public relations purposes only.

981
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: They just want these guys to not leave the sport

982
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: and then go do illegal things that will bring poor

983
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: publicity to the league, or go completely broke which will

984
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 4: bring poor publicity to the league, or you know, get

985
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: divorced in mass or make headlines for negative reasons. Because

986
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 4: even though you could be ten years twenty years departed

987
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: from your NFL career, it'll be former NFL player x

988
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: Y or z did x y or z. You're always

989
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 4: representing the Shield as a former player, and the NFL

990
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 4: is keenly aware of that. So whatever efforts they put

991
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: in and they are marginal to get players to help,

992
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: they need there because it's better for the league if

993
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: they if they take care of their players. If there

994
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: was no profit incentive or no risk to them paying

995
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 4: zero attention to players when they transition out of the NFL,

996
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: they wouldn't spend a single dollar. I can promise you

997
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: that very much. Now, the NFLPA, the union goes to

998
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 4: great lengths to provide benefits for former players, and they

999
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 4: try to also encourage current players to realize that, like

1000
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: you just pointed out with Kirk Cousins and the way

1001
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: he's living modestly. Your NFL career is short, your life

1002
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 4: is long, and to make great plans for your post career.

1003
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

1004
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, you say, oh right, well I've

1005
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: got three or four million in the bank. Yeah, that's

1006
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: not going to go very far if you're going to

1007
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: live another fifty years. So yeah, you got to figure

1008
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: out something else to do.

1009
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: All right.

1010
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, Damian Lillard is still

1011
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: a Portland Trailblazer, but for how long we got the

1012
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: latest trade rumors? This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin

1013
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: and or at Charnberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

1014
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studios. Accarez is the

1015
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: youngest Wimbledon men's champion since Boris Becker, who won back

1016
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: to back at the age of seventeen and eighteen his

1017
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 2: first two Wimbledons. So hefty paid day as well. Big

1018
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: championship win over Djokovic. There, all right, I'm reading a

1019
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: headline here Rich The Portland Trailblazers are willing to wait

1020
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: months for any Damian Lillard trade, which is of course

1021
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: their way of saying we haven't heard anything close to

1022
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 2: what we're looking for in trading away Damian Lillard, who,

1023
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: again it's a different situation. It's very similar to the

1024
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: situation a year ago with Kevin Durant and the Nets

1025
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: in the fact that he has multiple years remaining on

1026
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: his contract, so it's not like as an expiring contract

1027
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: and we got to get rid of him now, or

1028
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: you know, face the prospect of getting nothing in return.

1029
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: He's und your contract for three full years and then

1030
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: as a player option in twenty six twenty seven for

1031
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, sixty two million things. He's going to

1032
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 2: pick that one up sixty two million dollars for that year.

1033
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that he won't be traded. So

1034
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: I've heard the latest, because we keep hearing this. So

1035
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: he wants to go to the Miami Heat. He wants

1036
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: to go to the Miami Heat, and the Miami Heat

1037
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 2: have offered Tyler Hero to the Blazers, and the Blazers

1038
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: publicly have stated we have no interest in Tyler Hero.

1039
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: So that means most likely you're going to have to

1040
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: have a three team trade to get this done, because

1041
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: really what Portland wants are a lot of first round

1042
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: picks to start building.

1043
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: For the future.

1044
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: So I heard a recent deal that actually makes a

1045
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: little bit of sense. So it would involve the Blazers,

1046
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: the Heat, and the San Antonio Spurs. So ultimately, the

1047
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: Heat get Damian Lillard, the Spurs get Tyler Hero, which

1048
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: is a pretty good fit for a young team, you know,

1049
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: to get a guy that can actually knock down some

1050
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 2: shots as far as Portland is concerned. They would get

1051
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: some bench guys like Duncan Robinson. You know, there's not

1052
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: a lot left on the Heat bench because guys have left.

1053
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: But they would get a Heat first round pick next year,

1054
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: a Bulls first round pick that is owned by San

1055
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: Antonio the next year, and then a bunch of future picks,

1056
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: you know, twenty seven to twenty eight thirty type first

1057
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: round picks. What is your gut feeling there, I mean,

1058
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: I still maintain because of his contract situation. Then I

1059
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: want to also get into allegiance and everything else. But

1060
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: do you believe right as we're sitting here today that

1061
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: he will be a member of the Miami Heat for

1062
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 2: the starting next.

1063
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Speaker 4: There's no way for me to answer that, or for

1064
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: anybody to answer that right now. It really comes down

1065
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 4: to compensation and if these two sides can find a

1066
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 4: level that matches the talent heading to South Beach. Look,

1067
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: every negotiation ends, or I should say every good negotiation

1068
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 4: ends with both sides being unsatisfied. You know, obviously Miami

1069
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: is probably in that situation going to have to part

1070
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 4: with more than they want to, and it means that

1071
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: the Trailblazers are going to get less than they want back.

1072
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 4: But that's that's what a good negotiation looks like. All

1073
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 4: parties being equally dissatisfied is how you know that that

1074
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 4: maybe the best ends were met and justify the means.

1075
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: I concentrate more with this story on exactly what Damian

1076
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: Lillard's asking for. I'm still very much so hung up

1077
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 4: on the damage that this will do to the NBA

1078
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 4: and the precedent that will set for players moving forward.

1079
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: If Dame Lillard ends up in Miami, this is a problem.

1080
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: This is a problem contracts. If Dame Lillard not only

1081
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: can request the trade and break a contract he's just

1082
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: signed with the Blazers, but then also pick the team

1083
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: he wants to go to, this is a problem. This

1084
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: is not a good thing. It's not good for the league,

1085
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 4: even if it makes Miami better, and even if it

1086
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: makes the Blazers better, it's still a huge problem. There's

1087
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: already a problem with loyalty in the NBA in terms

1088
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 4: of players playing out their contracts with certain teams. There's

1089
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: already an issue with fans and fathers of young fans

1090
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: worrying about whether or not they can buy a Stars

1091
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 4: jersey because is he a rental or is he a lifer?

1092
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: Is he a guy who they're going to be able

1093
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 4: to build around, or is he going to in some

1094
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: cases selfishly, self interestedly chase his passions and remove him

1095
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 4: from the city he currently plays in.

1096
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: All right, let me slow it down for a second here.

1097
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: So a year ago, a year ago, exactly a year ago,

1098
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: when Damian Lillard signed an extension of max extension on

1099
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: his deal. Here's what he said, and he actually put

1100
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: this out on social media. He said, I don't think

1101
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: that you earned something like this just by going out

1102
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: there and scoring a bunch of points. Something that's missing

1103
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: in our league is character and the fight and the

1104
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: passion and pride about you know, not just the name

1105
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: on the back, but the name on the front, and

1106
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: how you impact the people that you come in contact with.

1107
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: In other words, it was important to him a year

1108
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: ago that he remained a Trailblazer because he's invested a

1109
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: lot in that city. Not everyone was predicting that Damian

1110
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: Lillard was going to be a member of the seventy

1111
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: fifth anniversary team when he signed with Portland, and he

1112
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: made it clear a year ago that this wasn't just

1113
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: about the money. This wasn't just about It was about

1114
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: an allegiance and a responsibility to those that invested, as

1115
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: you were saying, rich, those that invested their time and

1116
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: money in rooting for you, in this case in the

1117
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: city of Portland.

1118
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: So what changed?

1119
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this was one year ago. I trust me.

1120
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: I can flip the coin over and I can speak

1121
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 4: to what Damian Lillard has probably gone through over this

1122
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 4: past year. Maybe he's started feeling a little distance with

1123
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: the front office, whereas he felt warmth on the you know,

1124
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 4: the heels of signing that giant max contract with them.

1125
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 4: Maybe they've started shifting their opinion on what this team

1126
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: needs to move forward, and maybe all of a sudden,

1127
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: Damian Lillard isn't a part of that future. Maybe they

1128
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: didn't speak to him at any length about what their

1129
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: plans were for the draft, And like we know with

1130
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: many stars in the past, when you start making plans

1131
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: for the future with looping in the star, the writing's

1132
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: on the wall. It happened to Peyton Manning with Andrew Luck,

1133
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 4: it happened to Aaron Rodgers with Jordan Love, and it's

1134
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 4: happened now to Damian Lillard with Scoot Henderson. And when

1135
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: these sort of things happen, you're going to upset a

1136
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: star player, because wow, he seems egoless when you read

1137
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: that statement, and he seems selfless, and he seems like

1138
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 4: the ultimate teammate, and he seems like the ultimate team

1139
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 4: guy and somebody who's gonna fight for Portland throughout the

1140
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 4: course of his career. Some of those words that he

1141
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: was speaking to, like the loyalty aspect, Maybe he feels

1142
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 4: like he's been wronged and there's been a great disloyalty

1143
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 4: done to him. And so if these are important creeds

1144
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 4: and core values to his life and the organization that

1145
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 4: he trusted has now abandoned their side of that loyalty,

1146
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 4: well then why should he remain loyal to them? So

1147
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 4: you could make the argument for Damian Lillard, But and

1148
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 4: by the way, I can see it that way, And

1149
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 4: by the way, I'm supportive of any player in any

1150
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: league because your earning potential is so short. To chase

1151
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 4: the money, to chase the acclaim, to chase whatever it

1152
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 4: is that you, whatever boxes you want to check before

1153
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 4: your career ends, go out and do a kid, because

1154
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 4: that's what you are. You may not realize it, but

1155
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 4: you're a kid. You're gonna spend the rest of your

1156
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: life as a grown man and life king. You'll look

1157
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 4: back on these times and you'll have some regrets. You'll have,

1158
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 4: you know, obviously, some things that you'll celebrate. You want

1159
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 4: as few of those regrets as possible. So if chasing

1160
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 4: a ring in South Beach is something you really want

1161
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: to do, go do it. But what I'm talking about

1162
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: is global. What I'm talking about is a precedent. It

1163
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 4: sets for this next group of superstars who are watching

1164
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 4: the stars of today like Lebron James leap frog from

1165
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: city to city to city chasing rings, like Kevin Durant

1166
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 4: leapfrog from city to city to city, chasing rings, like

1167
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 4: James leap rogging from city to city to city chasing rings.

1168
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: And now Dame Lillard. Somebody who sounded different, seemed different,

1169
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 4: is doing the same thing, and not only doing it,

1170
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: but doing it in the most damaging possible facts factor

1171
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 4: to the league by calling out the individual team, the

1172
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: only team that he wants to play for. This is

1173
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: going to be crippling to the NBA because it's gonna

1174
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,479
Speaker 4: handcuff these owners and these front offices to completely bend

1175
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 4: the need to their superstars. It's not gonna be and

1176
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 4: the people who lose the most, it's not the billionaire

1177
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 4: owners that I'm worried about, it's the fans. This is entertainment.

1178
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 4: It's how people escape their lives and their hardships, and

1179
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 4: they turn to these people who are grasping at Live's

1180
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 4: brass ring or gold ring, and it seems like so

1181
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 4: much fun rooting for these guys who go from humble

1182
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 4: means to greatness. Well, this is different. This feels like

1183
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: you're taking advantage of a situation and it's not going

1184
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 4: to end well for the fans. And that's the fortunate

1185
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 4: reality of this.

1186
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: Again a year ago, Damian Lillard's words, something that's missing

1187
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: in our league as character and the fight and the

1188
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 3: passion and pride about you know, not just the name

1189
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 3: on the back, but the name on the front and

1190
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: how you impact the people that you come in contact with.

1191
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: How times it changed? All right, let's find out what

1192
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: is trending right now?

1193
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 4: All right?

1194
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: So, Mancy, I want to ask you, as a Clippers

1195
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: die hard, Yes, who would you rather make a deal

1196
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: for Damian Lillard or James Harden? Knowing you would have

1197
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: to gut your bench and whatever remains of any draft

1198
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: picks that you didn't already give up For.

1199
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 10: Paul George, I'm going to assume that Damian Lillard would

1200
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 10: deplete our bench even more.

1201
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 8: I'm going to assume that right as I really think

1202
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 8: neither of them is gonna Who's gonna play all games?

1203
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 8: That's what Who's gonna play?

1204
01:03:59,200 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 4: Well?

1205
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: I mean again, that's how I'm down to. Total games.

1206
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 3: Have we seen Kawhi Leonard and Paul George together? I do.

1207
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what percentage of games less than half.

1208
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 8: We have hung out on Sundays more.

1209
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: Than we know that.

1210
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: I mean, Kawhi missed an entire year, it's less than

1211
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 3: half obviously.

1212
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 10: Right, So it's like it's hard really because I think

1213
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 10: either one can obviously bring something to the table and

1214
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 10: they can help us win. But in reality, that's not

1215
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 10: the problem that the Clippers have, right, So it's like, okay,

1216
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 10: you're bringing me another great player. Great, that doesn't that

1217
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 10: hasn't been the solution. Who is going to stay healthy

1218
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 10: and who is going to play? But if I had

1219
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 10: to pick gun to my head type of situation, if

1220
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 10: we're already gonna give everybody up, might as well get

1221
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 10: Damian Lillard.

1222
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 9: Going with Lillard, why not Kawhi and PG?

1223
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: Yes?

1224
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: Yes, So out of eighty two games, how do you

1225
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: how many games do you think all three would be

1226
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: on the court to get half?

1227
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 8: I would hope that's hoping. That is me fingers crossed half.

1228
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, And the reports are saying that James

1229
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 10: Harden is determined to get to the Clippers. Yes, which

1230
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,959
Speaker 10: you know, if you want to take a friendly deal,

1231
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 10: why not.

1232
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 8: Come on over. When did the Clippers become a destination when.

1233
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: When you have an owner worth over ninety billion dollars.

1234
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 8: I guess that's what it is.

1235
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I just I just want them to play,

1236
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 10: actually play, and see you know what they can do

1237
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 10: if they're actually playing together.

1238
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: In beauty of playing for the Clippers?

1239
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: Is this?

1240
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 3: There are no expectations that is. I mean, it's not

1241
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: like the Lakers or the Celtics where you got to

1242
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 3: try to continue a tradition.

1243
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 10: Not to us Clipper fans, the expectation has been there

1244
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 10: for a few years.

1245
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 8: But you are right, the expectations.

1246
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 3: Whirl with Slipper fans.

1247
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 8: Yes, me, Ben Maller, Brian Finley. That's three that I

1248
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 8: know of.

1249
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 4: Okay, right, so I don't see there's plenty of bathrooms

1250
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 4: at the new arena for right.

1251
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 10: No, I'm going to have an entire stall, but like

1252
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 10: a whole, a whole like Rowe bathrooms by myself. Oh

1253
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 10: all right, guys, Well, let's talk about a twenty year

1254
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 10: old champion. Twenty years old, and Carlos akraz is a champion.

1255
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 8: His first ever Wimbledon title.

1256
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 10: He defeated Novak Djokovic at the men's singles title in

1257
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 10: five very exciting, very tough, very grueling sets.

1258
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 8: Novak Djokovic got.

1259
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 10: Emotional speaking to the media and the fans after, because

1260
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 10: you know, he's thirty six.

1261
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 8: Is it the end?

1262
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 7: Is it?

1263
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: No?

1264
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 8: Right, No, But twenty year old, you're just kind of

1265
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 8: like man, man, he's.

1266
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: Coming in this way. It's for Alkarez to win championships.

1267
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: So this guy's gonna win a lot.

1268
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 10: He's gonna win a lot, a lot, So congratulations yes

1269
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 10: to Carlos alcraz And. In the NFL, three time All

1270
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 10: Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins is signing a two year,

1271
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 10: twenty six million dollar deal worth up to thirty two

1272
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 10: million with incentives with the Tennessee Titans. He gets a

1273
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 10: base of twelve million and you're one with the chance

1274
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 10: to get fifteen million. The deal is expected to become

1275
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 10: official over the next few days. This is all from

1276
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 10: the NFL Network. The NFL's deadline for tagged players to

1277
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 10: get multi year deal multi year deals is tomorrow Monday

1278
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 10: at four pm Eastern Time. So franchise tight and Evan

1279
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 10: Ingram and the Jaguars have reached an agreement on a

1280
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 10: three year contract.

1281
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 8: Worth forty one million.

1282
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 10: And in the NBA, the Suns are trading campaign a

1283
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 10: second rounder and cash this first for a future second

1284
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 10: round pick. Let's chick into Major League Baseball. The Pirates

1285
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 10: have tied the game again. Tied the game against the Giants.

1286
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 10: They are tied at three apiece bottom of the eighth

1287
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 10: inning in Pittsburgh. The Braves are on the scoreboard, but

1288
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 10: the White Sox are still up four to one.

1289
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 8: They're about to start the fourth inning.

1290
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 10: Will the White Sox hand the Braves two consecutive losses?

1291
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: Will they Braves are on pace to win one hundred

1292
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: and ninety.

1293
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 8: Yes, but they lost for the first time at home.

1294
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 8: I don't even know how long against the White Sox.

1295
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: The Braves have no weaknesses.

1296
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 8: They don't they have done.

1297
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 3: They've got really good couple of clothes to watch. Their

1298
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: lineup is loaded.

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Speaker 4: And they're also hitting. You know, yeah, one big to

1300
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 4: have stars, but stars that actually hit.

1301
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how about it?

1302
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean Olsen has thirty home runs at first is

1303
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: a runaway MVP of this league?

1304
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1305
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're so good, so good? Orioles beating the Marlins

1306
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 10: three zero. They're about to start the fourth inning. The

1307
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 10: Diamondbacks and the Blue Jays are tied at two a piece.

1308
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 10: Top of the third, the Reds of digging the lead

1309
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 10: over the Brewers.

1310
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 8: It's three to one. Bottom of the third.

1311
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 10: Reds manager David belm was just ejected in the second inning.

1312
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 10: He was arguing strikes and balls. They kicked him out

1313
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 10: and he went out there and he started pleading his case.

1314
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 8: And then he drew the outline of home.

1315
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 10: Plate to the umpire. The other umpire came in, got

1316
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 10: in between them. He kept yelling. He went out in fashion,

1317
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 10: is what I'm saying.

1318
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 8: He was like, you can kick me out. I got

1319
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 8: things to say.

1320
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 10: Nationals beating the Cardinals one zero top of the second,

1321
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 10: Red Sox up on the Cubs one zero top of

1322
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 10: the second as well.

1323
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 8: Busy Sunday, back to you guys.

1324
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: I actually saw a video on YouTube. Somebody went back.

1325
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: It was the month of May. Punch out called strike

1326
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: threes that were so far off the plate they weren't

1327
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: even close. And these are punch out, you know, strike

1328
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: three looking yeah, non swinging, and they're not even close.

1329
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 8: They're not. It's like, are you calling a.

1330
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 3: Stocky low wide. It didn't matter. They're just way off

1331
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 3: the plate.

1332
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know why we have umpires calling

1333
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: balls and strikes when you can do electronically. I mean,

1334
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: you're watching tennis, right, They will they will look at

1335
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: a review of a one hundred and thirty five mile.

1336
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 4: An hour serve. Yeah that maybe.

1337
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 2: Tick the line, yeah, tick the line, because that's all

1338
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: it just has to tick an edge like a hundredth

1339
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: of an inch and they never challenge it like there

1340
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: it is, you see it right there.

1341
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 3: But let's move on done. Yeah, they can easily do that.

1342
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 8: And they already said no umpire robots next season.

1343
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's ridiculous. It's time.

1344
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 2: It's very, very overdue time, no doubt about that. All right,

1345
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: So we're talking about this littler situation, and I love

1346
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: your diatribe, I really do, Rich because in a lot

1347
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: of ways, it's not about well, first of all, let's

1348
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: let's be careful what you wish for. We were talking

1349
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,480
Speaker 2: about James Harden with Monsei, right, remember the whole hardened situation,

1350
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: like he wanted out of Houston. Yeah, you did, And

1351
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: now we're staring at him with his four team coming

1352
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: up in like four years. You know, again, if Damian

1353
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: Lillard goes to Miami and they will have pretty much

1354
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: gutted their roster to have a trio of Butler, who

1355
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: is obviously not getting any younger. Neither is Damian Lillard

1356
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: and a bam ade Bio. Really the the root of

1357
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: that team, right was all these undrafted guys off the bench,

1358
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: the Martins of the world and the Robinson's, all these

1359
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 2: guys coming off the bench and you know, giving them

1360
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: some quality minutes and you take that away. I look

1361
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: at the Phoenix Sun, same thing. They gutted their roster

1362
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: to get Kevin Durant. It's not to say that Kevin

1363
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 2: Durant is one of the greatest players of all time.

1364
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: Obviously he is, but it takes more than that. Individuals

1365
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: and their value in a team. Sport Rich and We've

1366
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: talked about this many times. It's not even just about

1367
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 2: the pieces, but do the pieces fit.

1368
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:25,440
Speaker 4: Chemistry, it has to fit. It's super important and it's overlooked,

1369
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 4: but it has worked in the past, Steve, it has

1370
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 4: and it will work in the future where you assemble

1371
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: a super team.

1372
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: Boston did it with Kevin Durant and Yep and Ray

1373
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: Allen joining Paul Pierce. It worked.

1374
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: You bring in, you bring in one last piece or

1375
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 4: a couple of pieces, You get cheap role players, and

1376
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 4: you go out and win a ring. Yeah. I mean

1377
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 4: the Warriors had a good culture in place, but they

1378
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 4: had a Lebron problem. So they brought in Katie and

1379
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 4: they won two rings with him. You know it's there.

1380
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 4: It works, It works.

1381
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,480
Speaker 3: Look at the Ransom Matthew Stafford.

1382
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 2: It won a chance, and they you know, they invested

1383
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: money in a bunch of guys.

1384
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey. It was I mean, they did this several times.

1385
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 3: Untill they brought von Miller in.

1386
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: Remember this, they brought in Bay Yeah, and and they

1387
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 2: they basically said, forget about next year in the future,

1388
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: we're trying to win.

1389
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 4: Now, we're winning a Super Bowl.

1390
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: And they did it.

1391
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, look it works. I want to talk about another trade,

1392
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 4: and I know we'll get into it more on the

1393
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 4: other side, but I just sort of want to peel

1394
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 4: back the sticker on this brand new shiny toy that

1395
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans have to play with. DeAndre Hopkins signs

1396
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 4: a two year deal. They still finalizing that, but you

1397
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: would assume it'll get done. And this has been a

1398
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 4: courtship that has been long discussed during his free agency

1399
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 4: this offseason. My first blush reaction is that's a winnable

1400
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 4: division in the AFC South and DeAndre Hopkins is going

1401
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 4: to fill the void that aj Brown left the Tennessee

1402
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,879
Speaker 4: Titans in trade with the Philadelphia Eagles. That was apparent

1403
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 4: and a big reason, not the only reason, but a

1404
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 4: big reason why the vertical game was basically missing last

1405
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: year for the Tennessee Titans and led them to a

1406
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 4: seven win season. I think that Ryan Tannehill is one

1407
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 4: of those quarterbacks who is not great unless he has

1408
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 4: great pieces around him. So in Miami he struggled for

1409
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 4: years because they had some anonymity in terms of the

1410
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 4: skill players around him. But if the Titans have a

1411
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 4: healthy Derrick Henry and they have a healthy DeAndre Hopkins

1412
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 4: and an available DeAndre Hopkins, the Titans may have just

1413
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 4: made one of the biggest moves of their twenty twenty

1414
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 4: three and they get him on a contract that if

1415
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 4: it earns you a division win, you can't argue with

1416
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 4: the amount of money they're paying d hop.

1417
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: All right, Well, on the other side, I want to

1418
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 3: get a little bit more into this deal.

1419
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: Again.

1420
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: It is rein reported that he's agreed to a two year,

1421
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: twenty six million dollars deal a potential six million more

1422
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 2: in incentives to join the Tennessee Titans. But that means

1423
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: another team is not going to get DeAndre Hopkins. And

1424
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: you talked about stretching the field. Is he still that

1425
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: kind of receiver? We'll talk about this d hop deal.

1426
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Rich Harberger, Fox

1427
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are here in the tire IRAQ dot

1428
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: Com studios. So we're just talking about DeAndre Hopkins. Apparently

1429
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,440
Speaker 2: he has agreed to a two year deal with the

1430
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Before we get to a team that lost

1431
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: out on his services, you talked about a Titans team

1432
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: that's looking to stretch defenses a little bit.

1433
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: Is d Hop still that kind of receiver?

1434
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, one thing I know about d Hop You

1435
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: throw the ball in his vicinity, He's going to catch

1436
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: the ball.

1437
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 4: Right.

1438
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: He's a great possession receiver, as good as there is.

1439
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: But is he still a guy that will stretch a defense?

1440
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, because like pac Man Jones on the Pat

1441
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 4: McAfee Show proved this week, you can't teach speed and

1442
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 4: it doesn't go away. So pac Man Jones is forty

1443
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 4: and he ran a four to five on asphalt this week,

1444
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: Like it just doesn't go away. Like if you're a

1445
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 4: fast twitch athlete and you stay in shape, you're a

1446
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 4: fast twitch athlete. Now, health becomes a concern later in

1447
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 4: your career, especially when you've had some run ins with

1448
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 4: injury like de hop has in the past, and also

1449
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 4: the fact that he got popped for a performance enhancing

1450
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 4: drug and served the suspension and so consecutive seasons he

1451
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: hasn't had a lot of gameplay. There are concerns, but

1452
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 4: you can't teach speed, and you can't teach the ability

1453
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 4: the hand eye coordination that is I mean paramount when

1454
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 4: you're leaping off the ground, running full speed while being

1455
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 4: defended by one of the best defenders in the world

1456
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 4: doing what they do, and somehow being able to locate

1457
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 4: the ball secure it on your way to the ground,

1458
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things that has been a

1459
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 4: highlight of his career. Alongside all of that, he's a

1460
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 4: pretty damn good route runner too. He's a guy who

1461
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 4: when he breaks off his routes, when he gets into

1462
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 4: his stems and things, I mean, he can really sell

1463
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 4: whatever it is he's trying to set up and then

1464
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 4: in the break leave guys tumbling over themselves trying to

1465
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 4: catch up with him. So, look, DeAndre Hopkins to me

1466
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 4: is one of those receivers when healthy still can perform

1467
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 4: at the highest possible level. It's just a matter of

1468
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 4: whether or not he can stay healthy enough for the

1469
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 4: Titans this year. All right.

1470
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: So we were talking a couple of weeks ago about

1471
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: the possibility of the New England Patriots going after both

1472
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins and Dalvin Cook.

1473
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a d hop off the table.

1474
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: The latest on Cook is he's most likely to end

1475
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: up in the AFC East as either a member of

1476
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: the Dolphins or the Jets.

1477
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 4: Hmm.

1478
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: So if one of those two teams signs Dalvin Cook,

1479
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: imagine the Jets. Yeah, and you already have Brees Hall,

1480
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: who was off to a Rookie of the Year start

1481
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: before he had injuries, and then relinquish that offensive Rookie

1482
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,839
Speaker 2: of the Year award to Wilson, his wide receiver, Garret.

1483
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: Wilson know how the Jets afford.

1484
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 3: Him, but that I mean, that's what we're talking about.

1485
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's not as much money as.

1486
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: You may think, because we did assume that Dalvin Cook

1487
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: is looking for a boat low. But as time runs

1488
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 2: out he may have to come to the realization, at

1489
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: least in twenty twenty three, that money may not be

1490
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 2: the same. But if New England strikes out on both

1491
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: these guys, and if Dalvin Cook ends up with either

1492
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: the Dolphins or the Jets, I think you would agree

1493
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: that that would put further distance from either one of

1494
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: those teams from where the Patriots stand, which at least

1495
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: roster wise right now, is dead last in the AFC East.

1496
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we looking at with your former team,

1497
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 2: the Patriots, if they can't land a proven skill guy

1498
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 2: to bolster that offense for Mac Jones, who's trying to

1499
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: bounce back after suffering the sophomore jinks.

1500
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way, you said the Patriots, and it

1501
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 4: clicked my mind back to the DeAndre Hopkins. I'll get

1502
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 4: the Dalvin Cook in a second. But because I remember

1503
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 4: when I was there, I played alongside an aging Randy

1504
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 4: Moss who, at thirty years of age in two thousand

1505
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 4: and seven, this is two years before the Patriots drafted me.

1506
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: He had a fourteen hundred yard season with.

1507
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: The Pats, record number of touchdowns, record number twenty three touchdowns,

1508
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: some crazy number.

1509
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was absolutely an insane season.

1510
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 3: I didn't work with Ocho Cinco though, No, it didn't.

1511
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 4: But but look, there were other issues there. Yeah, and

1512
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Speaker 4: you know, I think the playbook proved to be a

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 4: challenge there. Devonte Adams last season fifteen hundred over fifteen

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01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 4: hundred yards with the Raiders at age thirty one hundred

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01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 4: receptions on the season, fourteen receiving touchdowns. Like my point

1516
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 4: is with DeAndre Hopkins is if he's healthy, I think

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01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: he can still obviously play in this league at a

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01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 4: high level. Going to Dalvin Cook, Dalvin Cook is one

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 4: of those players who has turned in thousand yard rushing

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 4: seasons for the past four straight years. I'm I'm not

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01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 4: going to overinflate the value of a running back, but

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 4: I will make an argument for his particular value. I

1523
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 4: think that's where this conversation gets murky, like because a

1524
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: lot of people go, well, running backs are replaceable. That's true,

1525
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 4: most running backs are replaceable. There are some who aren't.

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry is irreplaceable. Like Derrick Henry is the heart

1527
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 4: is the thumping heartbeat of that Titans offense. And when

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01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 4: he goes away, good luck Tennessee. You know, Dalvin Cook

1529
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 4: for years has been a offensive juggernaut for the Minnesota Vikings.

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: We'll see if they can replace his production. There are

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 4: teams that can benefit from having Dalvincook and they are

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01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say the drain is circling, and

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01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 4: I see the Patriots as really the option that makes

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01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 4: the most sense.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see.

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01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: But right now, like I said, the hot tickets for

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01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 2: a possible destination for Dalvin Cook are the Jets and

1538
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Speaking of those teams, one of them is

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01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: going to be in full view of all of us.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about hard knocks and the Jets. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, having fun on us Sunday. That's what

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Speaker 2: Alcaoraz wins Wimbledon. That's a big story today. But here's

1549
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: where we are in the sport world. So we have

1550
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 2: like these little bits and pieces, like the Open Championship

1551
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: is coming up this week, Rich and you and I

1552
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: have interest in golf's major Golf championships, final major of

1553
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 2: the year. By the way, Rory McElroy birdie the final

1554
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: two holes to what is it's the Scottish Open. I

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01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 2: believe it is so maybe he's in a position to

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01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: win out Open Championship and in his long drought.

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Speaker 3: You got that right, Rich, Oh yeah, yeah.

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: So but everything is basically filler until we get to

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01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: the NFL. Like, you know, we just we sort of

1560
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: like this month of July we're sort of void of

1561
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: I mean, like we were talking about the Dalvin Cook situation,

1562
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: de hopped.

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01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 3: Getting a new deal.

1564
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: But we're going to get into the meat and potatoes

1565
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 2: very shortly here with the NFL season. And one of

1566
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: the reasons the NFL continues to lap the field in

1567
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 2: general interests in sports is they always find a way

1568
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 2: to have a story keep them in the news. And

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01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: as we go into the twenty twenty three season, you

1570
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: have a dream scenario with Aaron Rodgers joining the New

1571
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: York Jets. I mean it's like a dream because you

1572
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: have one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of

1573
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: the NFL playing in Titled Town, USA, Little Green Bay, Wisconsin,

1574
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 2: and now he's going to the Big Apple and it's

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01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: the other New York team. You know, the Giants have

1576
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: had their day. They've won four Super Bowls, the Jets.

1577
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 3: Have won one, and their quarterback just turned eighty this year.

1578
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 3: That would be Joe Namath.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are so much there are so many

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01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: eyes on the Jets. I mean, they are without question,

1581
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: the must watch.

1582
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: Team as we go into this season.

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01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: And now on top of that, I don't know how

1584
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: it finally happened, but you knew was going to happen,

1585
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: going to be on Hard Knocks, all right. So I

1586
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: was talking yesterday to a former Jet about this. Now

1587
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to you about this. So let's

1588
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 2: say you're the producer of Hard Knocks and your job

1589
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: is to get as many eyeballs on the Hard Knocks

1590
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 2: Jets series as humanly possible. What is your pitch to

1591
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: the Jets on how you want to produce this edition

1592
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: of Hard Knocks to get the most punch, the most

1593
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: value out of having the Jets on Hard Knocks.

1594
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: How do you approach the Jets with your pitch?

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01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 4: Oh, you make it one hundred percent about the quarterbacks.

1596
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 4: Ask your I mean you make it one hundred percent

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01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 4: about the quarterbacks. And I'll tell you why. Because Netflix

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01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 4: just debuted their brand new series Quarterback. It is a

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 4: focus on our cousins and Marcus Mariota and Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: It is going to obviously do very well among sports fans,

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01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 4: and then people who just like you know, realism documentaries,

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01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 4: things like that, and you know the algorithm, Netflix is

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01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 4: going to filter that to the top of your queue

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01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 4: until you click on it and give it a shot,

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01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 4: and some people who may not even like football might

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01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 4: get hooked. That was the same thought process with their

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01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 4: golf docu series, their F one docu series. In fact,

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01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 4: Netflix is responsible in some part with the F one

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01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 4: Need for Speed getting a lot of American eyes paying

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01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 4: attention to F one racing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, now, by the way, that was their only

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01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: sports venture. Oh yeah, for a long time, that was

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: it just formula one. I want to read a quote

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01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: from Aaron Rodgers where you get your comment here. Yeah,

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01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 2: so this was Thursday.

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01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard this clip.

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01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,839
Speaker 2: So Rogers says, talking about them being on hard knocks.

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01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 3: I understand the appeal with us.

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01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot of eyes on me, a lot of

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 2: eyes on our team, a lot of expectations for our squad.

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01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: They forced it down our throat and we have to

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: deal with it. I don't know how cooperative, mom, I say,

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01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess that Aaron Rodgers is going to provide

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01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 3: zero cooperation with this Hard Knocks venture. He may be

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01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: seen on Hard Knocks, but he's certainly not going to

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 3: do anything to embellish for the cameras.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hard Knocks. So going back to my point about

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01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 4: making it about the quarterbacks, Yes, what they need to

1630
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 4: do is appeal to Aaron Rodgers. The producers need to

1631
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 4: be very careful with how they approach him, but they

1632
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: need to appeal to him. They need to talk about

1633
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 4: how listen like you know, you know, we all know

1634
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 4: this is a very talented team, but the missing piece

1635
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 4: last year was a quarterback. And so we're going to

1636
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 4: do our very best to highlight the other offensive players

1637
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 4: and defensive players who are going to be important to

1638
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 4: create a path to the postseason and beyond. But you

1639
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 4: are going to be a big focal point this year,

1640
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,839
Speaker 4: and we just want to get that out in the open.

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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 4: We're going to, you know, try to spotlight not only

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01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 4: what you're doing from a leadership standpoint with the starting

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01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 4: offensive players, but also you helping along Zach Wilson and

1644
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 4: these other young quarterbacks. Tim Boyle obviously isn't young, but

1645
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 4: you know what it's going to what what a true

1646
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 4: culture changer at quarterback looks like in the NFL, and

1647
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 4: like you have to just appeal to him somehow, you

1648
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 4: have to make you have to give him maybe the

1649
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 4: availability to talk about things other than football. If there's

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01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 4: one thing that I've really realized about Aaron Rodgers that

1651
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know about him, frankly before he started becoming

1652
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 4: more open minded or really open mouthed with the media,

1653
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 4: is the fact that he likes to talk about just

1654
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 4: about anything other than football exactly. So I would I

1655
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 4: would try to explain to him, like, we're gonna give

1656
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 4: you an avenue to get word out about whatever you

1657
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 4: want to talk about. And I think that I think

1658
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 4: that Hard Knocks is a fun show and Lee of

1659
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 4: Shreiber does a good job narrating it.

1660
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers calls him the voice of God.

1661
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: He does, yeah, And I think that there's a lot

1662
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 4: of aspects of the show that worked a lot better

1663
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, say, than it does now because of

1664
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 4: social media and because of the access we have to

1665
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 4: these stars. But I do think there's still an avenue

1666
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: where you can make this exciting and interesting, especially this

1667
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 4: season with Aaron Rodgers there. And I think it's you

1668
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 4: need to make him the focal point, and you need

1669
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 4: to find a way to make him the focal point.

1670
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 3: So how would you handle Zach Wilson.

1671
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this is another big part of the story, right,

1672
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy was the second overall pick just

1673
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. He came in with a

1674
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: lot of fanfare. You obviously saw him back in his

1675
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 2: BYU day. He actually got off to remember his first

1676
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 2: training camp. He was turning heads like, wow, this kid

1677
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: has something special and then it just completely unraveled.

1678
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 3: But he's still there.

1679
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 2: He's been politically correct by saying, yeah, this is a

1680
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 2: go to opportunity for me to learn from one of

1681
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: the all time greats. I mean, I don't know what

1682
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: his real mindset is right now, but I think there's

1683
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 2: a story there, right.

1684
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and that's the reason why I say the quarterbacks, Yeah,

1685
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 4: just Rogers. But Zach Wilson is an infinitely interesting person

1686
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 4: in this conversation because this is somebody who came in

1687
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 4: with the number two overall pick to the Jets, was

1688
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 4: supposed to be for the Jets with Aaron Rodgers, is

1689
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 4: going to be they hope this season. He was supposed

1690
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 4: to be a culture changing quarterback. He was supposed to

1691
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 4: be Joe Namath. He was supposed to be the guy

1692
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 4: to win them a super Bowl with this young cast

1693
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 4: of super talented players didn't pan out. Can't build around

1694
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 4: a quarterback who can't play in this league, and Zach

1695
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 4: Wilson can't play in this league, not yet, you know.

1696
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 4: So it's going to be very interesting how they handle

1697
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 4: that storyline again. Making the quarterbacks the focus you have

1698
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 4: to do right by Rogers, So I don't think it

1699
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 4: would benefit them at all to try to, you know,

1700
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 4: create a rift, you know, you know, I mean, I'm

1701
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 4: not saying you sugarcoat anything with Zach Wilson, but you know,

1702
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 4: maybe maybe try to make this the focus of this show,

1703
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 4: the fact that he's learning so much from Rogers and

1704
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 4: highlighting that. Now, if there is jealousy there, if there

1705
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 4: is anger there, if there is animis there, it will

1706
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 4: probably benefit Hard Knocks. It'll probably benefit HBO because they

1707
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 4: may be able to catch that on film. But I again,

1708
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, Zach Wilson, I think it

1709
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 4: would serve him extremely well. And I think this is

1710
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 4: probably what he's going to do with this time that

1711
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 4: he has Aaron Rodgers as a mentor to you know,

1712
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 4: listen and learn and try to improve his game because

1713
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers has an expiration date on him and at

1714
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 4: sometime in the near future that his NFL career is

1715
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 4: going to end. And if Zach Wilson proves to be

1716
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 4: you know, competent in a backup role, maybe he still

1717
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 4: can stick around in New York and replace Aaron after

1718
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 4: he leaves.

1719
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 3: Quinnon Williams, who just sign that monster contract ninety six

1720
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 3: million dollars deal with the Jets, one of the great

1721
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 3: defensive linemen in this league. He was up with up

1722
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 3: on game right.

1723
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is what he had to say, some

1724
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: interesting stuff about Zach Wilson and his early relationship with

1725
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

1726
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,560
Speaker 11: Oh, Man, I haven't been update to see Zack or

1727
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 11: none like that they did, but I have counted on

1728
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 11: him and stuff like that. He's in great man. He's

1729
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 11: a phenomenon quarterback or phenomen the football player. And it's

1730
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 11: like I told him, he's a great opportunity for all

1731
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 11: of us to learn from a great guy like Aaron Rodgers. Man,

1732
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 11: a great guy who can take out all our games

1733
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 11: for the next level, not only does Zack all right.

1734
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 2: So Quinn Williams confident that the whole team is going

1735
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: to benefit. Coming up on the other side, I want

1736
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 2: to go a little step further with Aaron Rodgers though,

1737
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: and exactly what the Jets are getting with a quarterback

1738
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 2: that again now with the hard knocks addition, Let's face it,

1739
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: everyone wants to see what Aaron Rodgers is going to

1740
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: do with the Jets this season. We got a little

1741
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 2: sneak peek. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin and

1742
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: rich Armburger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the

1743
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios. So yesterday, and I mentioned

1744
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 2: this at the top of the show, I'm making history

1745
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 2: this weekend. I am the first sports talk show host

1746
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 2: ever to host shows and consecutive days with two different

1747
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: members of the twenty twelve Arizona Cardinals.

1748
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 3: I looked it up. I am the first ever to

1749
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 3: do that. Yes, and I don't think it will ever

1750
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 3: be duplicated again.

1751
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 2: Well there you go. Well thoughts they get too fad.

1752
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean Carrie, Carrie was actually coming up. I believe

1753
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 2: after this show today he's going to be on with

1754
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: Brian Knows. So car Carry Rhoades was with me yesterday,

1755
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 2: Rich and he began his career with.

1756
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 3: The New York Jets.

1757
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:33,839
Speaker 2: Yes, and he pointed out the parallels of what's happening

1758
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: with the Jets in twenty twenty three are almost identical

1759
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: to what happened fifteen years ago.

1760
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 3: In two thousand and eight.

1761
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 2: The Jets were coming off a disappointing four and twelve season,

1762
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: and suddenly Brett Favre was their quarterback. And I asked him, so,

1763
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 2: what was that experience like? So let's remind everyone he

1764
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 2: had a young coach and Eric Mangini, who had been

1765
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 2: there the year before, disciple of Bill Belichick, and that

1766
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 2: Jets team that had been four and twelve the year

1767
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 2: before started eight and three with Brett Favart quarterback, a

1768
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: complete turnaround. Unfortunately, he lied about an elbow injury that

1769
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 2: well made him less than effective over the last five

1770
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: games of the year. They ended up losing for their

1771
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 2: last five, finished nine and seven and missed the playoffs.

1772
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 2: And of course, the next season he was a member

1773
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: of the Minnesota Vikings. So Iowa Sam, who, by the way,

1774
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 2: is wearing a hog Eyes shirt today.

1775
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 3: But you'd love this shirt, you know, I.

1776
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 2: See Iowa and I'm thinking about Iowa Hawkeyes and it's.

1777
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 9: Hog eyes with a with a pig pig side silhouette

1778
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 9: of a pig.

1779
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, that's that's like offensive line. And

1780
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you calling rich a pig? Well, you

1781
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:49,959
Speaker 2: know those those hog.

1782
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 4: Mollies, That's what he's doing.

1783
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,600
Speaker 9: And it's also it's an ode to Iowa's you know,

1784
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 9: agriculture and raising hogs. And I saw it at this

1785
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 9: truck stop gift shop and I had to have it.

1786
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 2: It was like in so if you were to walk

1787
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 2: up to say hi to Kirk Farens and wearing the

1788
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 2: hog eyes, sure where you say, oh, that's cool or like.

1789
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 9: He definitely say that's cool. Yeah, I'm sure Kirk Farns

1790
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 9: has said that's cool like once in his life.

1791
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So yesterday, the only thing that got Sam listening

1792
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 2: no on the normal He did pique my interest, yes

1793
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: was the fact that Carrie talked about the Brett Farv

1794
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 2: experience and that he he sort of separated himself from

1795
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 2: the rest of the team. Okay, in other words, listen

1796
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 2: to this. Brett Farv did not dress for the games

1797
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 2: in the locker room. In fact, he had a locker

1798
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 2: with his name on it, and he never used it.

1799
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, where did he get dressed? He goes,

1800
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 2: I think he got dressed with the coaches. Now have

1801
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 2: you ever heard anything like that? So he maintained that

1802
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 2: even though Brett Farv had a locker in the Jets'

1803
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 2: locker room, he never ever used it.

1804
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never heard of that. Listen. I mean, there

1805
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 4: are certain players that I've played with over the course

1806
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 4: of my career that I saw very little of, you know,

1807
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 4: that seemed to spend a decent amount of time apart

1808
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 4: from the rest of the team, whether it be on

1809
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 4: the inside of the locker room or outside. But I've

1810
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 4: never heard of somebody not getting dressed with the team

1811
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 4: who is a teammate. That's a very unique story.

1812
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a unique story. But it brings up

1813
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 2: to me a bigger issue as far as Aaron Rodgers.

1814
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Aaron Rodgers is again one of the greatest

1815
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to ever play this.

1816
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:45,719
Speaker 4: Game, sure, no question.

1817
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's also eccentric.

1818
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we can all agree he does

1819
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: things his way, and he publicizes it.

1820
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 3: You know, he's not.

1821
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 2: Afraid to talk about that he has wound a little

1822
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 2: differently than everyone else. He's been very open about this

1823
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 2: whole Jets experience. He's been a big positive. We've been

1824
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: seeing him all over New York. Everything's good now, Yeah,

1825
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 2: but what if this young team gets off to a

1826
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:17,799
Speaker 2: slow start, As again Carrie said yesterday, As the season

1827
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 2: progress and things were not going as planned for Brett Favre,

1828
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: that distance between he and the rest of the team

1829
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 2: only grew to the point where, of course, after just

1830
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 2: one season, he was no longer a New York Jet.

1831
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 2: Do you think that Aaron Rodgers has the kind of

1832
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 2: personality that could deal with some kind of distraction or

1833
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 2: the lack of success. That is very possible, especially with

1834
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 2: a young team under the bright lights of New York City.

1835
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really do. I mean, look Aaron Rodgers.

1836
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Because I asked him. I asked Carrie. I said, let's

1837
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 2: just very quick. I said, let's say four games into

1838
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 2: the season. These are the standings in the AFC East.

1839
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 2: After four games, the Bills are four to zero, the

1840
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: Dolphins are three and one, the Patriots are two and two,

1841
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 2: and the Jets are one and three only four games

1842
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 2: into a seventeen game season.

1843
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 3: How will we New York media react to the question.

1844
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 4: I get it, Yeah, I get the question. Yeah, And

1845
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 4: this has been long discussed and I think it's overblown

1846
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 4: and I think it's silly. Aaron Rodgers is a man

1847
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 4: who's nearing forty years old. He has played at the

1848
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 4: highest level in this league his entire career. He has

1849
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 4: exposed himself willingly so to the national media over and

1850
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 4: over and over again. He's exposed himself willingly so to

1851
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 4: controversy over and over and over. Like you said, he's eccentric.

1852
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 4: The only reason why we know that is because he's

1853
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 4: willing to share that with people. Yes, this estimation that

1854
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 4: because Aaron Rodgers spent the major already of his career

1855
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 4: in Green Bay, Wisconsin, is not going to be able

1856
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 4: to handle the pressure of playing New York it falls

1857
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 4: on deaf years with me, because he knows what pressure is.

1858
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 4: He's a pro, he's been doing this for a long time.

1859
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's borderline ridiculous to even assume that

1860
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 4: that's going to be one of the reasons why if

1861
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 4: the New York Jets struggle, that they will because that's

1862
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 4: the least of their concerns. What they need to be

1863
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 4: concerned with is keeping the stars around him, the young

1864
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 4: stars or the veterans for that matter, healthy, playing as

1865
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 4: good of defense as they did last year, because that's

1866
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 4: one of the things the Green Bay Packers really struggled

1867
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 4: with at times, is their defense giving away games. And

1868
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 4: that'll help. And if he's playing on a team with

1869
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 4: the top five defense, and he inarguably has weapons around

1870
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 4: him offensively, unless his play falls off a damn cliff,

1871
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 4: the New York Jets are going to be That's fine. Now, Yeah,

1872
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 4: if they start out, say they lose a couple of

1873
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 4: close ones, and they start out behind the eight ball

1874
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 4: a little bit, losing games. We've seen this before. This

1875
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 4: is this is my problem with this question altogether, Steve, Like,

1876
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 4: do you really think that Aaron Rodgers is going to

1877
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:21,799
Speaker 4: fall to pieces?

1878
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 3: Because I know he'll say you about seven.

1879
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 2: Well again, and let's look at the beginning of their schedule, right,

1880
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 2: so they're the good news is three of their first

1881
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 2: four games are at home. But answer that question, well,

1882
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: I remember, no sweat, We've heard him before. You're right,

1883
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 2: they've gotten off to you know, slow starts in Green Bay.

1884
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 2: But it's not Green Bay. I get not Green Bay.

1885
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you can talk about national media, but he's

1886
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 2: not he's not in Green Bay. He's not dealing with

1887
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 2: the New York media on a daily basic, right, But

1888
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 2: do you really think I don't know. Okay, I think,

1889
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 2: but here's the thing. But I mean, let's look at

1890
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 2: the Jets schedule. The interesting thing is, so they have

1891
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,080
Speaker 2: they have six games before the bye, so they they

1892
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: have an early buy right, So they have six games,

1893
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 2: four of which are at home. But three of those

1894
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 2: home games are against the Bills, the Chiefs, and the Eagles,

1895
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 2: so you.

1896
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 3: Know you're hoping.

1897
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, they also have a road game

1898
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: against Dallas in Week two, so they've they've got some

1899
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: tough games, but especially at home, you know what I mean.

1900
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 3: I mean the little bed.

1901
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 4: But I could turn that right around. I could say,

1902
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 4: guess what, the Bills, the Chiefs, and the Eagles and

1903
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 4: the Cowboys all have a tough matchup with the Jets.

1904
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure they feel they do, so.

1905
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 4: I guess my point in here is this. I mean, yes,

1906
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 4: you're right, from a competitive standpoint, there are good teams

1907
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 4: in the AFC, and they have a bunch of them

1908
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 4: on their schedule. But I'm not for a second going

1909
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 4: to assume. And again you answered the question. You said,

1910
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 4: you don't know, you don't know.

1911
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, and that's fine. You know why I

1912
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 2: don't know, And that's fine because I still don't know

1913
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 2: what kind of the leader Aaron Rodgers. I know what

1914
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 2: kind of quarterback he is. Yeah, but a great quarterback

1915
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily make you a great leader.

1916
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 4: Well, okay, but this is also a guy who, over

1917
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 4: the course of his career, has led multiple teams into

1918
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 4: the postseason, who's led multiple.

1919
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 3: Teams one Super Bowl appearance.

1920
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, into success in the postseason, has won a Super Bowl,

1921
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 4: has won four MVPs. I mean, this isn't We're not

1922
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:26,839
Speaker 4: talking about Zach Wilson.

1923
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 3: How has he only been to one Super Bowl?

1924
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 4: Well, look, there's a million, a myriad of reasons why

1925
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 4: a quarterback who's this talented.

1926
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if he was on the ABAC side and

1927
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 2: had to go through Tom Brady all those years, that's

1928
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 2: one thing, like a Peyton Manning, but no, he was

1929
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 2: in the NFC.

1930
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're comparing like what he's done to say

1931
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 4: a Tom Brady because of his talent. But you have

1932
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 4: to also remember that Tom Brady was paired with inarguably

1933
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 4: a better coach than than Aaron Rodgers had in Green

1934
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 4: Bay through the majority of his career. Bill Belichick is

1935
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 4: one of the most creative and brilliant football minds on

1936
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 4: the planet. Are you going to give Mike McCarthy the

1937
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 4: same compliment?

1938
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not a McCarthy guy.

1939
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 4: So my point is this and Patrick Mahomes.

1940
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 2: But then again, Belichick in his ten years without Tom

1941
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 2: Brady as his quarterbacks, had seven losing seasons, won one

1942
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 2: playoff game.

1943
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 4: But that's the pairing is everything. And we've said this.

1944
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 4: I've said this multiple times on this show. When you

1945
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 4: have a great quarterback show, you're going to show me

1946
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 4: a great coach most of the times. Most of the time.

1947
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 4: So I'm talking about somebody's going to go to the

1948
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame most of the time they have a

1949
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 4: great coach behind him. Sometimes it's not the case. And

1950
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 4: I mean there are exceptions to every rule. You know.

1951
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford is an example of a guy who could

1952
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 4: go to the Hall of Fame, and to be perfectly

1953
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 4: honest with you, he outside of Sean McVay, outside of

1954
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 4: the twilight of his career, assuming he's getting close to retirement.

1955
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 4: I mean, he really hasn't had great coaching. So I

1956
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 4: look at this pairing of Aaron Rodgers and Salah as

1957
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 4: He's on his way out of the league and sala

1958
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 4: is just getting his feet wet as a head coach,

1959
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 4: and I'm intrigued. I think that this could be. This

1960
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 4: could work. You know, he also has Nathaniel Hackett as

1961
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 4: his offensive coordinator, somebody who he's comfortable with. He's got

1962
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 4: Alan Lazard out there, He's got his backup quarterback he wanted.

1963
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 4: He's hand selected some of the free agents that they signed.

1964
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 4: This is a good opportunity for Aaron. I know what

1965
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,839
Speaker 4: you're driving at. I know we've never seen Aaron Rodgers

1966
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,799
Speaker 4: outside of Green Bay. And will it have an impact, Yes,

1967
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:40,879
Speaker 4: because he's getting used to a new organization, new faces

1968
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 4: around the media pool, new locker room, new teammates, etc. Etc. Etc.

1969
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 4: But I think one of the last things that I

1970
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 4: would personally be worried about if I were Aaron Rodgers

1971
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 4: head coach or somebody in the Jets organization, is if

1972
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 4: he's going to have a tough time with the media.

1973
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 4: He's spent his entire career, which has spanned nearly two

1974
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 4: decades now dealing with the media. He'll be just fine,

1975
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 4: all right.

1976
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1980
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Speaker 3: Let's find out what is trending right now. Moncie. Are

1981
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 3: you a fan of Hard Knocks? Do you watch that series?

1982
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 8: I have not watched it.

1983
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 10: I have not put it in my rotation of things

1984
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 10: to watch, but it seems like something I would enjoy

1985
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 10: everything I want.

1986
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 8: I know, I know, I know, you know what it is.

1987
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 10: It's why I have to have HBO, which I do,

1988
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 10: maybe illegally, but I do, but I do.

1989
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 8: Wow, So I just haven't done it.

1990
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 10: You know, it's hard because like when I'm tired at

1991
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 10: the you know, guys, know my schedule is all over

1992
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 10: the place, as yours is as well. So at the

1993
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 10: end of the day, when you're tired, it's hard to

1994
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 10: watch something.

1995
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 8: New that you have to pay attention to.

1996
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's a weekly show. So in

1997
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 3: other words, once you started, yes, you know, and it's

1998
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 3: not like a Netflix series where you can just binge

1999
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 3: and watch all the episodes past seasons.

2000
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,799
Speaker 8: Right right, right, Yeah, So I do plan on watching

2001
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 8: this season.

2002
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 10: Hopefully I'll be able to do it and watch it

2003
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 10: was actually legally in.

2004
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 8: Lifetime once a week. I could do it.

2005
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 10: I just have not watched past seasons, but I hear

2006
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 10: it's really really fun, So I'm sure I love to

2007
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 10: see Rich featured.

2008
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 4: I wish Rich, I did. Rich.

2009
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 3: Did you ever play for a team that's featured on

2010
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks? No, No, I never did, because you would

2011
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 3: have been the perfect such Yes.

2012
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 4: I would have loved it.

2013
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 8: I'm so fun.

2014
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 4: I am a ham and I would have made sure

2015
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 4: that I had something prepared for Hard Knocks. I would

2016
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 4: have been pitching things to the producers.

2017
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, your bit could have been eating something different

2018
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 10: every time.

2019
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 4: It could have been that.

2020
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 8: It could have been that every time.

2021
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 4: Maybe telling a couple of stories about my life. I

2022
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean I both song and dance, a

2023
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 4: little soft shooting and then move on with the with.

2024
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 8: The program would have been. It would have been great.

2025
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 10: Well, we'll stay in the NFL because three time All

2026
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 10: Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins assigning a two year, twenty

2027
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 10: six million dollar deal worth up to thirty two with

2028
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 10: incentives with the Tennessee Titans. This deal is expected to

2029
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 10: become official over the next few days. Franchise tight end

2030
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 10: Evan Ingram and the Jaguars have reached an agreement on

2031
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 10: a three year contract worth forty one million that includes

2032
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:25,719
Speaker 10: twenty four million guaranteed. The NFL's deadline for tag players

2033
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 10: to get multi year deals is tomorrow Monday at four

2034
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 10: pm Eastern time. We'll move on to Major League Baseball guys.

2035
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 10: The White Sox are scoring some more against the Braves.

2036
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 10: The latest yeahs. Robert Junior just hit a two run homer.

2037
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 10: He has three RBIs and the White Sox are beating

2038
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 10: the best team in baseball, the Braves, eight to one,

2039
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 10: bottom of the six the second best team in baseball.

2040
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 8: The Rays are.

2041
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 10: Also losing to the Royals three zero, bottom of the

2042
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,879
Speaker 10: second inning. The Reds have taken the lead over the Brewers.

2043
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 10: It's three to two top of the seventh. The Blue

2044
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 10: Jays have taken the lead over the Diamondbacks. They were

2045
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 10: just tied.

2046
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 8: Not anymore. It's three to two. Bottom of the sixth inning.

2047
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 10: Orioles are still blanking the Marlins five zero, bottom of

2048
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 10: the seventh inning, and the Cardinals have taken the lead

2049
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 10: over the Nationals three to one, top of the six,

2050
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 10: Red Sox all over the Cubs six zero, bottom of

2051
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 10: the fifth. The Guardians are up on the Rangers three

2052
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 10: to two bottom of the third, and the Rockies just

2053
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 10: scored against the struggling Yankees one zero bottom of the

2054
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 10: second inning. But according to the athletic Brian Cashman did

2055
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:27,520
Speaker 10: say that Aaron Judge.

2056
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 8: Is moving in the right direction.

2057
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 10: He's responding, well, he's taking some on field BP. He is,

2058
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 10: you know, shagging fly balls, doing some running.

2059
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 8: So good news.

2060
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 10: Maybe they get Aaron Judge back, but is it too late.

2061
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 3: Struggling, struggling, He was on his way.

2062
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Otani is a runaway MVP favor.

2063
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 8: But yeah he will else.

2064
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 3: Before he got hurt, Judge was.

2065
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 4: Killing breaking the record, he said last year.

2066
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean he's on that base. Yeah.

2067
01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2068
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 10: And twenty year old Carlott's Alcaraz has throne number two

2069
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:06,799
Speaker 10: see Novak Djokovic. It's his first ever Wimbledon title since

2070
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:11,440
Speaker 10: al Karaz was born, so twenty years only four guys

2071
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 10: have won.

2072
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, leading you at one in O two.

2073
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Alcaraz was born in two thousand and three, so in

2074
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 2: his lifetime only better Nadal Djokovic and Annie Murray had

2075
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 2: actually won Wimbledon.

2076
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 8: Yes, no, now him crazy crazy.

2077
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 3: Born in two thousand and three.

2078
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,799
Speaker 4: Rich, Yeah, two.

2079
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 8: Thousand and three.

2080
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 3: He's younger than all my he's younger than all my kids.

2081
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 8: Don't put it like that.

2082
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 4: That means people born in two thousand and two can

2083
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 4: drink right now? Oh vomit? What vomit?

2084
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2085
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you know, it's amazing when when you

2086
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,599
Speaker 2: have kids that get to the age like my kids were,

2087
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 2: they're these teenage phenomenons, or you know, like someone like

2088
01:48:56,479 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Alcarez at twenty. You don't want to say it, you know,

2089
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 2: sometimes they say it like what have I been doing

2090
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 2: with my top?

2091
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 3: How did I I was?

2092
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 4: This twenty year old?

2093
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 3: He got zillions of dollars? Yeah, zillions, zillions. That's good.

2094
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 8: I just want a couple thousands.

2095
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 3: We gotta all use whole extra cash, no question.

2096
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 4: You shekels get us through the day.

2097
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 3: Ahi on see, thank you Mary much.

2098
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:23,759
Speaker 4: Wow.

2099
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a twenty years born two thousand and three.

2100
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 3: Vomit that's amazing.

2101
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 4: It's it's and also like, think about the rest of

2102
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 4: his life. He can walk around telling people he's a

2103
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 4: Wimbledon winner, like he's not. He's not.

2104
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 12: He's not going into his safe and pulling out his

2105
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 12: AFC Championship ring and telling people about it. He's pulling

2106
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 12: out his he's pulling a Wimbledon trophy.

2107
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. I By the way, why why on earth was

2108
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 4: I given an AFC Championship ring? I keep thinking about the.

2109
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 2: Consolation prize, a reminder you did not win the championship.

2110
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 4: Congratulations you did and win.

2111
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a reminder you lost. By the way,

2112
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 2: the singles winners in both men's and women's at Wimbledon

2113
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 2: received three point one million I'll do for a couple

2114
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 2: of weeks of tennis. Not bad, Yeah, not bad at all.

2115
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm watching right now, they actually have

2116
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 2: the women's doubles final. So when I watch these doubles,

2117
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 2: because we never watched doubles ever unless it's played at

2118
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 2: a Grand Slam tournament, right, and I'm thinking to myself,

2119
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 2: why did they still do this? None of the major

2120
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: singles players, the last one that was like a huge

2121
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 2: singles guy that played doubles was McEnroe. He played doubles

2122
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 2: about his career, even when he was winning Wimbledon's and

2123
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 2: Grand Slams, he played doubles. He had a partner named

2124
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 2: Peter Fleming, and they were dominant. And Macrol always said

2125
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 2: because Macrol had such quick hands and it was devastating doubles.

2126
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:05,799
Speaker 2: But most of these doubles players are, you know, players

2127
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 2: that obviously just couldn't cut it as singles players.

2128
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 3: So the next best thing, I'm trying to figure out

2129
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 3: why they still have doubles competition though, Like they're showing

2130
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 3: this doubles finals, you can literally count the people in

2131
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 3: the seats like there's like there's a couple of you there.

2132
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 3: I look at uh yeah, exactly.

2133
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 4: I look at it doubles tennis like I do the match.

2134
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 4: You know, I don't care who you're slamming together on

2135
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 4: the golf course unless it's a pandemic. I ain't watching.

2136
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 2: I mean, when the Williams sisters are playing doubles, that

2137
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: was cool. It was sisters out there.

2138
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 4: But I'll be honest with you, though I watched zero

2139
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:45,560
Speaker 4: minutes of them playing doubles together.

2140
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 3: Have no recall other than they would say they won

2141
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 3: and they show him holding And by the way, the

2142
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 3: trophies are the doubles are like these old mini trophies.

2143
01:51:54,000 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 4: Like it's like, I mean, like they're there, they're are again.

2144
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 4: Like for example, yeah, cricket is really really popular elsewhere

2145
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 4: in the world, big time, big right. Rugby I mean

2146
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 4: is enormous, enormous in different areas of the world. Field

2147
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 4: hockey is one of the biggest sports on the planet. Badminton, badminton.

2148
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 4: There are just certain sports that don't necessarily resonate with

2149
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 4: the American public.

2150
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 2: Well and the other thing, and we talked a little

2151
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 2: bit about this. In fact, I want to say, because

2152
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, Uh, the NBA, of course,

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Speaker 2: is introducing the NBA Cup this season.

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Speaker 3: How better it'd be one hell of a cup to

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Speaker 3: get anybody's attention.

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01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 2: The alternative is so blatantly obvious for the NBA. If

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Speaker 2: you haven't figured it out, we'll figure it out for you.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, this is Fox Sports Sunday Steve Hartman and

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Speaker 2: Rich Harberg or Fox Sports Sunday. We are alive from

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Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios. Which were you aware

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Speaker 2: that the Lakers this past season finished in the last place.

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01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah alone, Yeah, because they play in the Pacific Division.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 2: See, a lot of people aren't even aware because we

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Speaker 2: only look at the conference standings, you know, like the

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01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 2: seedings in the conference. But they're actually divisions. Yeah, there's

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01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,799
Speaker 2: six divisions of five teams each. And this past season,

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Speaker 2: the Kings won the Pacific Division, followed by the Suns,

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Speaker 2: the Clippers, Warriors, and the Lakers finished last with a

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Speaker 2: record of forty three and thirty nine. Also, did you

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Speaker 2: know that the winner of the Pacific Division gets a trophy?

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Speaker 4: I did not know that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in fact, so if.

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Speaker 2: You win the Pacific Division, you get what is called

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Speaker 2: the Chuck Cooper Trophy. Chuck Cooper is one of the

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Speaker 2: first three African Americans to play in the NBA. Each

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Speaker 2: of the divisions has a trophy presented to them, the

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Speaker 2: Nat Clifton Award, the Wayne Embry or Ol Lloyd Willis, Reid,

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Speaker 2: Sam Jones, and the Chuck Cooper Trophies. The NBA is suddenly,

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Speaker 2: under the leadership of Adam Silver, become obsessed with trophies.

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Speaker 2: They give away a lot of trophies now, so I know,

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Speaker 2: people don't even know there are divisions anymore. But there's

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Speaker 2: a division trophy, there's a conference championship trophy, all of

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Speaker 2: which end up in a closet somewhere because no one

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Speaker 2: is going to put that thing on display, right, So

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to because I'm looking there's there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of money spent on these trophies.

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Speaker 3: They're actually pretty. I mean they have a similar look

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Speaker 3: because you have a basketball on them. But I can't

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Speaker 3: imagine what the NBA Cup was going. I think I

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Speaker 3: have a cup.

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Speaker 4: I mean, can it can it be like just like

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Speaker 4: an actual cup, like a like a jockstrap? Can it?

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Speaker 4: Can it be that?

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Speaker 2: I I'm just trying to figure out because I again,

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Speaker 2: people aren't even aware of these trophies, trophies that they

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Speaker 2: hand out now for the division winners, and most people

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Speaker 2: don't even know there are divisions in the NBA. They

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Speaker 2: know about conferences. But I mean, this NBA Cup has

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Speaker 2: got to be good, like huge. It's got to be

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Speaker 2: bigger than the Larry O'Brien Trophy, which by the way,

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Speaker 2: is not one of the most impressive championship trophies.

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Speaker 4: No, and the Larry O'Brien along with the conference trophies, Yeah,

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01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 4: they had that recent update and they name them things

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Speaker 4: now and.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, this is what they did with these divisions,

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Speaker 2: Nat Clifton, Wayne Ambry, Earl, Lloyd Willis, Reed, Sam Jones,

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Speaker 2: Chuck Cooper trophies.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they also named the MVP.

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Speaker 3: All the different award trophies that.

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Speaker 4: They all have like a basketball legend attached to it,

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Speaker 4: which I get it. I mean it's and you.

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Speaker 2: Have an MVP Award for conference finals, not only the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals, of course you do.

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Speaker 3: But now you're gonna have the NBA Cup.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, then cup. It should be disposable. It should

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01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 4: be one of those those coffee cups that you can

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01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 4: throw right in the trash because I think that I

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01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 4: personally believe the NBA Cup is not going to be

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Speaker 4: for very long. I feel like this is going to

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01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 4: be something that they do for a season. It's going

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Speaker 4: to be a one off thing or maybe two seasons.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they'll try to find another way to incentivize it,

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01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 4: and then personally, I think it's gonna go away unless

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01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 4: they can find a way to get star players to

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01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 4: care about playing in this tournament and taking it seriously.

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Speaker 4: It is not going to be It's not going to

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Speaker 4: be anything anybody cares whether they win or not. And

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Speaker 4: right now, the way they are incentivizing these players to

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Speaker 4: play seriously in this is by promising them a bonus

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01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:53,959
Speaker 4: of five hundred thousand dollars. Two gentlemen like Jimmy Butler

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01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 4: and Damian Lillard talking about Miami, Lebron James and Anthony

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01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 4: Davis again, if you know, goes to Miami talking about

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01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, Lebron James and a D

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. I mean, are these are

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Speaker 4: these guys, you know, James, Harden, Joelle and b Are

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Speaker 4: these guys really worried about winning five hundred thousand bucks? Well,

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Speaker 4: my point is, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Whether they're worried about putting a few extra dollars in

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Speaker 3: their bank account. The idea that this is going to

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Speaker 3: be going, So the NBA Cup is going to go

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Speaker 3: between November third and December ninth, right in the heart

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Speaker 3: of the NFL season.

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Speaker 4: That's when like the NFL season turns on for real,

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Speaker 4: for real.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, not to mention college football. Yeah sure, okay,

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01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,839
Speaker 2: so you're going into the meat of the schedule, certainly

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Speaker 2: for the college football season, and very much for the

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Speaker 2: NFL season.

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Speaker 3: So and obviously you and I do shows throughout the

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Speaker 3: football season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the idea that we would talk about anything

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Speaker 2: other than the NFL even if there's not an NFL

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Speaker 2: game that day. So they're trying to schedule games where

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Speaker 2: there's not an NFL game, Like, I mean, the idea

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Speaker 2: that we stop talking about NFL just because there's not

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Speaker 2: an NFL game on a Wednesday, is it, sir?

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Speaker 4: Beyond believe this is going to This is how this

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Speaker 4: is going to be treated. I promise you it is

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Speaker 4: going to be one of those things where you're either

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Speaker 4: going to I mean, if you're going to even address it,

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Speaker 4: you're going to discuss it as if it is as

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Speaker 4: if it is any other regular season game.

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Speaker 2: Well, they's all they've done is relabel regular season. That's

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Speaker 2: just by saying they're a tournament game.

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Speaker 4: So if something astounding happens in one of these regular

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Speaker 4: season games, like an official miss, a blatant foul, you

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Speaker 4: know there was an incident of some sort, this is

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Speaker 4: going to fly completely under the radar on most people's

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Speaker 4: on most people's radar, and you know, maybe in the

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Speaker 4: markets where these teams play It'll get a little bit

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01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 4: of publicity, especially if the team that they're focused on

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Speaker 4: is making a run like out in Denver, if the

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Speaker 4: Nuggets are advancing to the the NBA Cup Finals or

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Speaker 4: something like that, yeh sure maybe. But outside of that,

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Speaker 4: this is not gonna cut through. And then on top

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Speaker 4: of it, the point that I was trying to make

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Speaker 4: is the only way that this is gonna work is

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Speaker 4: if the stars play, and the star players who are

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Speaker 4: making the most money in the league, I don't think

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01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 4: care if you're gonna offer them five hundred thousand dollars

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01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 4: to get off their button play hard.

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Speaker 3: That's only for the winning team. By the way, if

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01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 3: you go out in the quarterfinals, they give you fifty.

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Speaker 4: Thousand, right, It's it's trust me.

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Speaker 2: This is a league that had sixty six players make

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Speaker 2: at least twenty million in salary last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not going to be important enough to enough

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01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 4: of the players who matter the most for them to

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01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 4: sacrifice resting an injury or taking load management days to

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01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 4: go play in this fictitious, ridiculous look.

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Speaker 2: If you want more eyeballs in the NBA, move this

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02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 2: season back. Stop playing NBA games in November. That'll help

2294
02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 2: stop right now as we head to the end of July,

2295
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,440
Speaker 2: we should be talking about the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: Move the season back, all right.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot more news coming up here on

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Speaker 3: Buying should be. Do you consider these the dog days

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Speaker 3: of summer? Rich?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I sort of feel like the days

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02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 4: are pretty full. I know a lot of people complain

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Speaker 4: that there's nothing on the sports calendar, but you know

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02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:00,880
Speaker 4: there's news when you look for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh, there's always news.

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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of you know, being sort of

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Speaker 4: paying attention. Like I'll give you an example of something

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Speaker 4: that's sliding under the radar right now. And I have

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Speaker 4: no idea if there's credence to this whatsoever. But on

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Speaker 4: the heels of the DeAndre Hopkins signing to the Tennessee

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Speaker 4: Titans two year deal. Matthew Judon, who's a member of

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Speaker 4: the New England Patriots who is actively recruiting d Hop

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Speaker 4: to join them, has quote tweeted Dove Kleman's tweet and

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Speaker 4: said fake news. So I don't know, maybe Judon knows

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Speaker 4: something we don't, or maybe Dove Cleman got the scoop

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Speaker 4: or is re reiterating the news from Tom Pelisario, who

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Speaker 4: I believe had it first, And is it possible they

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Speaker 4: got something wrong. I guess it's possible. But also, DeAndre

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Speaker 4: Hopkins has now since instagrammed out a fat photo of

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Speaker 4: him and Derrick Henry together with just you know, the

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Speaker 4: caption being dot dot dot right, So it feels like

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Speaker 4: a done deal. But that what we've.

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Speaker 2: Seen, guys, look at I I do not envy, and

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Speaker 2: I understand this if you are an insider, yeah, for

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Speaker 2: any sport. Yeah, And obviously we know all the elite

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02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 2: names out there.

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Speaker 4: We just spoke to one, right, JP Morosi.

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Speaker 2: So, but if you're the pressure on these men and

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02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 2: women that hold those positions to break stories.

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Speaker 3: Is intense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the d Hop story, if you are the

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Speaker 2: one that breaks it first, that's that's.

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Speaker 3: A feather and cap, that's big time.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes you gotta be careful because usually how they

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Speaker 2: operate and I've known them all over the years, and

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Speaker 2: again I would not want to be in that position

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02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 2: because you it is so competitive and you've got insiders

2345
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 2: with an organized whether it's you know, executives or coaches

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02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 2: or players or agents, and then you have to and

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Speaker 2: it's a trade off, yeah, you know. So it's where

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Speaker 2: and that's why sometimes.

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Speaker 3: You see rumors that are floated out there specifically to

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02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:22,720
Speaker 3: try to force the hand of a team or teams

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02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 3: to make a bit on a certain player.

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Speaker 2: And where do those rumors come from? So it's a

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Speaker 2: trade off. I'll give you information. You got to help

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Speaker 2: me though, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So it's their play it back. So we'll see how

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Speaker 3: that all plays out.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, I mean, there's always a lot of

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Speaker 2: things going on throughout the entire year. You know, when

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Speaker 2: we talk about the month of July, and I was

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Speaker 2: just mentioning it before the break, it really is. I

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Speaker 2: mean with baseball, like the next couple of weeks are

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Speaker 2: going to be talking about potential trades.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the biggest name out there is Otani. Is he

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Speaker 3: going to be trader or is he not going to

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Speaker 3: be traded. I don't think he's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Traded for all the reasons you've given, Rich, I mean,

2367
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:04,480
Speaker 2: it just it just doesn't make sense. By the way,

2368
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 2: speaking of Otani for a second, here, I saw one insider.

2369
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 2: You know, I'm reading a lot of different people and

2370
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 2: their spin on the Otani situation, but this one made

2371
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:18,400
Speaker 2: sense to me. So Tani has made it infinitely clear

2372
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 2: that whether he remains an Angel or goes to another team,

2373
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 2: he does not have any interest on playing on the

2374
02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 2: East Coast none. So he wants to be on a

2375
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 2: West Coast team that he deems where he's not going

2376
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 2: to have a huge spotlight, which would eliminate a team

2377
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 2: called the Los Angeles Dodgers.

2378
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 4: Yep.

2379
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, if he doesn't return to

2380
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 2: the Angels, that really only leaves three other teams, not

2381
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 2: including Oakland. It would either be the Mariners, the Giants,

2382
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:56,880
Speaker 2: or the Padres. Right and so, and we know this

2383
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 2: about the Padres because you and I Rich were there.

2384
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:02,600
Speaker 2: You know, the whole Otani thing came down where he

2385
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 2: ends up signing with the Angels. Pottery's were in the

2386
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 2: mix all the way to the end. Aj Preller in fact,

2387
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 2: the general manager of the Padres. Then he learned some Japanese. Yeah,

2388
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 2: he actually you try to learn speaking Japanese to help

2389
02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 2: with the negotiation, to try to bring him. At the

2390
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 2: last second, he ends up with the Angels. But if

2391
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 2: you talk about Otani situation, if that's the case, then

2392
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:29,200
Speaker 2: like if the Yankees or the any team on the

2393
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 2: East Coast said, hey, we'd love to get Otani in

2394
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,520
Speaker 2: for a couple of months, You're gonna cut your entire

2395
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 2: farm system for a guy that has zero intention of

2396
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 2: signing with you.

2397
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, zero, Yeah, I mean, that's that's my.

2398
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:42,880
Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.

2399
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 4: That's my problem with this whole theory that Otani is

2400
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 4: the hottest name on the trade block. He's not. First

2401
02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 4: of all, the Angels over the next month, who are

2402
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,919
Speaker 4: sitting at a game under.

2403
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:58,040
Speaker 3: Five hundred without Mike Trout for two mos without.

2404
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 4: Mike Trout, Grannon have an opportunity to hear if they

2405
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:05,839
Speaker 4: step up to potentially put together still something that resembles

2406
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:09,720
Speaker 4: a good season and potentially a playoff run. Otani would

2407
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 4: be an important part of that. And also you would

2408
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 4: reap the benefits of keeping him on the other side

2409
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 4: of the trade deadline if this season, you know, turns

2410
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 4: in a positive direction. So I think there's motivation there

2411
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 4: for the Angels to play well. Obviously, there's motivation for

2412
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,840
Speaker 4: the organization to try to get something for Otani if

2413
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:34,320
Speaker 4: things go really poorly. But again, I think their biggest

2414
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 4: issue is going to be I think the biggest issue

2415
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 4: is that the hall that any team willing to part

2416
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 4: ways with to get Otani is going to be so

2417
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 4: crippling to that organization where he goes to, unless Otani

2418
02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 4: elects to stay there.

2419
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:52,880
Speaker 3: Okay, let me.

2420
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 4: So, so name a team right now who would trade

2421
02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 4: for Otani who would be able to retain him long

2422
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,840
Speaker 4: term based on I'm going to give you about otandres.

2423
02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 2: Think about the Padres for second here. So you're the

2424
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 2: Angels and you want to haul in return. Well, I

2425
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 2: got a lot of talent on this team.

2426
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 4: No, no, no, the Padres don't have enough in their

2427
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:16,160
Speaker 4: farm system. Would you could trade Tatis? I don't know, man,

2428
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 4: you don't know. I don't think the fan base. I

2429
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 4: think if you're the Padres.

2430
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody in the Padres would miss Tatis.

2431
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 4: I think that I'm not saying the Padres because if if,

2432
02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:30,040
Speaker 4: if you could get the type of ballplayer that Otani

2433
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 4: is and trade away Fernando Tatis Junior so as well.

2434
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 4: But that's my point.

2435
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:40,720
Speaker 3: You're going to snell Okay, No, I mean, look at it.

2436
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 2: It's going to be a botload, right, and he's only

2437
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 2: going to go to a team where he could see

2438
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 2: a future with down the road.

2439
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 4: You're you're talking about all the pieces that he's gonna

2440
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 4: need around him right now at the major league level

2441
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 4: to continue having success.

2442
02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:54,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, those pieces aren't working very well.

2443
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 4: Soto is kind of a rental. We knew that. I mean,

2444
02:07:58,440 --> 02:07:59,960
Speaker 4: everybody knew that here's.

2445
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 3: One more on his deal after this.

2446
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but but you know it was a two

2447
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:06,720
Speaker 4: year rental. Sure, everybody was aware of that. And I mean,

2448
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 4: unless the Padres are interested in resigning Soda after having

2449
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 4: some up and down but mostly up this season performances,

2450
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 4: we'll see, We'll see what the future holds. Fernando Tatis

2451
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:21,080
Speaker 4: Junior is bedrock. He was selled to the fan base

2452
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 4: as somebody that the Padres are going to hold on

2453
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 4: to long term. Now, he did have the suspension which

2454
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 4: changed certain people's minds, but he's back in their good graces.

2455
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:34,360
Speaker 4: The problem again is though, if you trade Soto Snell,

2456
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 4: you trade who else did you throw into that? Oh, Fernando, Yeah,

2457
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 4: to the Angels for Otani. You have stripped away the

2458
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 4: best hitter on the Padres this season. Who's Soto? The

2459
02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:51,520
Speaker 4: future of the Padres, which is Tatis, and the best pitcher,

2460
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:54,000
Speaker 4: the ace of this staff right now in Blake Snell.

2461
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 3: You know who's a better hitter than Soto. That would

2462
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 3: be Otani.

2463
02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:00,480
Speaker 4: Well, there's no doubt about it. But again, you have

2464
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 4: a top heavy lineup in San Diego already. You're going

2465
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 4: to get rid of two of your best hitters and

2466
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,120
Speaker 4: replace it with one. It doesn't make any sense. Again,

2467
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 4: this goes back to my original point. This is going

2468
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:15,760
Speaker 4: back to my original point. Otani is untradable. Every time

2469
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 4: you come to me with a trade situation that seems

2470
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 4: to make sense to you or anybody else, it doesn't

2471
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 4: make sense to me, because again you're gonna have to

2472
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:27,320
Speaker 4: give the Angels too much for to actually make sense.

2473
02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 2: Well, do you know that, I don't know how many

2474
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 2: people pay attention to this war stat you know has

2475
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:35,480
Speaker 2: the highest war right now in the Padres this season.

2476
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 4: The highest war I would assume would be Fernando.

2477
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:44,960
Speaker 2: Fernando's second. Okay, also behind him are Soto and Manny

2478
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 2: and Snell and Muscove. They're all behind This guy is

2479
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 2: the number one war guy in the Podres this season.

2480
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:55,040
Speaker 2: His name is Hassan Kim. Okay, Hassan Kim has the

2481
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 2: highest fielding war in all of Major League Baseball.

2482
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 4: Wait, you were just talking about fielding war or overall war.

2483
02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 2: His war is at four point two. Fernando's at three

2484
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:07,760
Speaker 2: point nine. So let's say you get rid of Fernando,

2485
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 2: you get rid of Soda, you get rid of Snell,

2486
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 2: you still have us On Kim, you have Machado, you

2487
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 2: have Muskrove, and now you just added Shoe.

2488
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:22,000
Speaker 4: To the war stat doesn't talk about hitting with with with.

2489
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 3: The one stat is all inclusive.

2490
02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 4: No, I understand that, But but the focus of like again,

2491
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:30,240
Speaker 4: we're we're getting really into the weeds talking about the problem.

2492
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to make a deal for.

2493
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:36,120
Speaker 4: It's just look, it's this is too obscure, it's too

2494
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 4: out there. I want to get out of the weeds,

2495
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,400
Speaker 4: and I want to talk about this in more general terms. Okay,

2496
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:45,040
Speaker 4: the the because look, most of America listening to this conversation,

2497
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:49,680
Speaker 4: who cares about Otani? Which they should because Otani, in

2498
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 4: my estimation, is the best athlete on the planet right

2499
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:55,480
Speaker 4: now the way he's dominating baseball. I I don't think

2500
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:59,120
Speaker 4: he's getting enough respect for that. However, I don't think

2501
02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 4: he's a tradable candidate because even what you just outlined,

2502
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what team you go to Orioles Cincinnati.

2503
02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 4: I've heard, you know, teams that have a strong farm

2504
02:11:09,400 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 4: system or have a young team that's over performing right now.

2505
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 4: There's there's a couple of teams out there who may

2506
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 4: have may have room in the future to sign him

2507
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 4: if he likes the success that he's tasted. You know,

2508
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 4: with these teams, there's so few out there who either

2509
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:29,320
Speaker 4: A can afford him or b can afford to trade

2510
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:32,240
Speaker 4: for him, that it just doesn't make sense. I don't

2511
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 4: think he's tradable. And if he is, by the way,

2512
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 4: if they end up pulling the trigger and the Angels

2513
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 4: do trade him and they don't get an absolute massive

2514
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 4: haul in return like something that Dwarfs with the Padres

2515
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:48,320
Speaker 4: traded for Juan Soto, for example, dwarfs Thattyo because he's

2516
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 4: also an ace pitcher. He's not just a brilliant hit

2517
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:54,000
Speaker 4: or he's an ace pitcher. Well, then you are going

2518
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:56,160
Speaker 4: to be the laughing stock of baseball. And I don't

2519
02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:57,440
Speaker 4: think with any general.

2520
02:11:57,240 --> 02:12:00,520
Speaker 2: Afterwardsdo tatis juniors under con track for.

2521
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:03,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just not happening, all right.

2522
02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:05,440
Speaker 2: So so your prediction is there is no tra I

2523
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 2: would agree with you, and you know I've been in

2524
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:10,839
Speaker 2: lockstep with you, the idea that he is not trade

2525
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 2: a bull. No, But if you think about which teams

2526
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 2: most likely would he go to, I still think he's

2527
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 2: going to stay an angel. If I'm already Moreno, who decided,

2528
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, to not sell the team?

2529
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:27,600
Speaker 3: All I tell show he is very simple. Bring me

2530
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 3: all the offers, and whatever the offers are, we'll top it.

2531
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Period, I'll give you a dollar more.

2532
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give whatever whatever.

2533
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 2: Anybody who's seven hundred million dollar deal, eight hundred million,

2534
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 2: we will top it.

2535
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:43,240
Speaker 4: Show show me a text message, That's what I would say.

2536
02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:45,760
Speaker 4: If I'm already Moreno, Yeah, show me a text message.

2537
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,320
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, these general managers, and I'll

2538
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 4: give you a dollar more to stay here with the Angel.

2539
02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:57,120
Speaker 2: Does Otani strike you as someone that is just about

2540
02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:57,560
Speaker 2: the money?

2541
02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:03,400
Speaker 4: No, I agree Otani Otani feels Look, I don't know him,

2542
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:07,600
Speaker 4: none of us do from a personal standpoint, but he

2543
02:13:07,640 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 4: feels like a principled person, That's.

2544
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:11,880
Speaker 3: What I'm asking and also feel like a money guy.

2545
02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 4: And also he kind of he's gonna make a lot

2546
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:17,080
Speaker 4: of money either way, but he also kind of feels

2547
02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:21,000
Speaker 4: like a guy who maybe his loyalty and I'm not

2548
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 4: even saying this is naivety. I'm saying this is a

2549
02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:27,640
Speaker 4: good thing. His character and his loyalty may blind him

2550
02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:32,280
Speaker 4: to some of the greater problems in with the Angels

2551
02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:36,800
Speaker 4: franchise that they have really struggled to develop outside of

2552
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,840
Speaker 4: Mike Trout real talent out of their farm system that

2553
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:43,080
Speaker 4: has helped them in any meaningful way over the past decade.

2554
02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:47,320
Speaker 4: And as a result, they've they've really struggled. And then

2555
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:51,120
Speaker 4: as also as a result, they've they've had a hard time. Well,

2556
02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 4: I shouldn't say as a result, they've traded away some

2557
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 4: farm pieces for sure to bring in big name potential

2558
02:13:58,200 --> 02:14:00,640
Speaker 4: free agents and resign them, but they've missed a couple

2559
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 4: and it's really hindered them. So the Angels have some

2560
02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:07,960
Speaker 4: work to do if they're going to retain oh Tani.

2561
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:10,480
Speaker 4: But I still put them in the lead seed in

2562
02:14:10,600 --> 02:14:13,040
Speaker 4: terms of the team that most likely ends up with

2563
02:14:13,120 --> 02:14:13,800
Speaker 4: him long term.

2564
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:17,480
Speaker 3: I mean just hitting wise, he leads the majors in

2565
02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:24,760
Speaker 3: home runs, slugging percentage, ops, ops plus total bases. Those

2566
02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:28,600
Speaker 3: are just the offensive categories. Actually leads the majors in triples.

2567
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:32,000
Speaker 2: I mean I again, And the fact that they sign

2568
02:14:32,080 --> 02:14:35,040
Speaker 2: them to a one year, thirty million dollar contract that

2569
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:36,680
Speaker 2: might be the biggest bargain ever.

2570
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty million, it's pretty pretty subsidient.

2571
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:44,480
Speaker 2: That's thirteen million less the Max Schuzer is making this year.

2572
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 2: And the last time I ever checked sures there's not

2573
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:50,720
Speaker 2: a DH So there you go. All right, Coming up

2574
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:53,040
Speaker 2: on the other side, we'll get back to some NFL news.

2575
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:55,920
Speaker 3: Why not, because the NFL is where it's at.

2576
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:58,800
Speaker 2: Do we have any latest rumors about these running backs

2577
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:02,360
Speaker 2: and why the running back was physician? Maybe you should

2578
02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:06,080
Speaker 2: re examine even wanting to be a running back. Think

2579
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:07,960
Speaker 2: about it. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

2580
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:10,000
Speaker 3: I'd buy that for a dollar.

2581
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:13,120
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, Rich Torberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

2582
02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:15,600
Speaker 2: from the Tirak dot com studios. All Right, we get

2583
02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:18,920
Speaker 2: a lot of social media activity during the show, Rich,

2584
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:21,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to catch up on a few things that

2585
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:25,640
Speaker 2: I've been reading here. First of all, Rich Marauda is

2586
02:15:25,760 --> 02:15:29,280
Speaker 2: a legendary broadcaster out of southern California. Have been a

2587
02:15:29,320 --> 02:15:31,760
Speaker 2: dear friend of mine and a fan of ours for many,

2588
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 2: many years. Says very nice things about us.

2589
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:34,760
Speaker 3: He said.

2590
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:36,320
Speaker 4: This was early in the show.

2591
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:39,440
Speaker 2: He said, no surprise at can Harmon at Ormberger are

2592
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 2: talking in detail about Djokovic versus Alcarez's five set epic

2593
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 2: at Wimbledon, they can talk about something else besides where

2594
02:15:47,160 --> 02:15:49,600
Speaker 2: Damian Loeler will play next season or the New York

2595
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 2: Jets on hard Knocks.

2596
02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:52,400
Speaker 3: By the way, we covered those as well, so we

2597
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:55,600
Speaker 3: cover that today. Also.

2598
02:15:56,240 --> 02:16:01,200
Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about Iowa. Sam has been to

2599
02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:05,080
Speaker 2: just about everyone's place that works here at Fox Sports Reddit.

2600
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:09,840
Speaker 2: He mentioned there's only been three and then this came through. Hey, Sam,

2601
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:13,440
Speaker 2: you forgot to mention going to Casa Deel Mallor for

2602
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:16,160
Speaker 2: Ben's annual Christmas slash Honka party.

2603
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been there actually a couple of times now

2604
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 9: and you forget not mentioned that I forgot.

2605
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a nice home, right and.

2606
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:25,320
Speaker 9: Uh, locations undisclosed.

2607
02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:27,880
Speaker 2: Well if you if you forgot Ben's, there's probably others

2608
02:16:27,920 --> 02:16:28,640
Speaker 2: you forgot about.

2609
02:16:28,640 --> 02:16:30,440
Speaker 4: Then I'm trying to think here.

2610
02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:33,880
Speaker 9: No, I don't think, because you've been to probably what

2611
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:36,160
Speaker 9: you know, I've been to A Rich Davis's house of

2612
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:41,400
Speaker 9: Kavina Rich. Wow, there it is Davis, Ben, Mike Harmon.

2613
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really do find your way around America's Guest.

2614
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:50,920
Speaker 3: It's self invited. Pretty incredible, although Ben did invite.

2615
02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:51,119
Speaker 4: Me to his party.

2616
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:54,240
Speaker 2: By the way, I actually met Cato Kalin on a

2617
02:16:54,320 --> 02:16:55,439
Speaker 2: number of occasions.

2618
02:16:55,680 --> 02:16:59,200
Speaker 3: He's a big sports fan. Really good guy, like really good.

2619
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:02,280
Speaker 3: You know Ada Kalin is right? Uh you got the

2620
02:17:02,320 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 3: house guest and the O. J. Simpson. Uh, yeah, I

2621
02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:05,640
Speaker 3: mean I got it.

2622
02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:07,880
Speaker 4: I Gary, have you ever did you ever visit that house?

2623
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 3: That house?

2624
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:11,520
Speaker 4: I didn't by No, I was asking Sam. I was Sam, Yeah,

2625
02:17:11,560 --> 02:17:11,959
Speaker 4: did you ever?

2626
02:17:12,320 --> 02:17:15,279
Speaker 3: Were you ever in the No, even in the guest house. No,

2627
02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:18,080
Speaker 3: I know that house doesn't exist anymore all the way,

2628
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:21,760
Speaker 3: but anyway, Yeah, he was known as America's Guest.

2629
02:17:22,440 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 4: Yeahta Kitton.

2630
02:17:23,320 --> 02:17:25,720
Speaker 3: But I think Sam, you've taken over there. I think

2631
02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:27,279
Speaker 3: that's quite a different circumstances.

2632
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:29,840
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe not. I don't know, Sam.

2633
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, I was, I always listened

2634
02:17:32,920 --> 02:17:34,119
Speaker 2: to you on Saturdays.

2635
02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:36,560
Speaker 3: I love your Saturday show.

2636
02:17:36,600 --> 02:17:36,920
Speaker 4: Thank you.

2637
02:17:37,480 --> 02:17:39,800
Speaker 2: Who was the one that boasted the pick of the

2638
02:17:39,800 --> 02:17:43,720
Speaker 2: week and was taken the under in the w NBA

2639
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:44,600
Speaker 2: All Star Game?

2640
02:17:44,800 --> 02:17:46,199
Speaker 4: That would be Jared Smith.

2641
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, jareded unfortunately was not right on that one.

2642
02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:50,080
Speaker 4: Okay.

2643
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:53,360
Speaker 2: In fact, it turnout to be the highest scoring w

2644
02:17:53,600 --> 02:17:56,120
Speaker 2: NBA All Star Game of all time. I think the

2645
02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:58,640
Speaker 2: over runner was two forty nine. They scored two seventy.

2646
02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:04,600
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, I mean it was obliterated and ascu

2647
02:18:05,160 --> 02:18:07,240
Speaker 2: did you see her three point? What did she how

2648
02:18:07,240 --> 02:18:09,800
Speaker 2: to make? She made eighteen in a row? Did you

2649
02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:11,200
Speaker 2: see that she made?

2650
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? How many ways?

2651
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:15,920
Speaker 3: She made twenty? But in a row?

2652
02:18:16,720 --> 02:18:17,080
Speaker 4: Is that? Now?

2653
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:19,960
Speaker 2: Can we turn on Monzi's my hare because I honestly

2654
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:23,000
Speaker 2: was not watching the w NBA All Star festivities, but

2655
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:25,800
Speaker 2: I saw highlights that she like, Yes.

2656
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:27,360
Speaker 8: She actually only missed two.

2657
02:18:27,640 --> 02:18:31,119
Speaker 10: Funny she missed her very first shot, then made twenty

2658
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:31,640
Speaker 10: in a row.

2659
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:33,920
Speaker 3: Twenty in a row in a row shot.

2660
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:36,119
Speaker 10: Correct, and even the deep corner ones, you know how

2661
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:38,680
Speaker 10: we do. In the regular NBL Star Game, the had both.

2662
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:39,000
Speaker 8: Uhuh.

2663
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:40,760
Speaker 10: For the bonus, she had both of those, and then

2664
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:43,200
Speaker 10: it wasn't until almost the last rack that she missed

2665
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:43,640
Speaker 10: the other ones.

2666
02:18:43,640 --> 02:18:44,600
Speaker 8: She only missed two.

2667
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:47,480
Speaker 10: The first one twenty in a row, missed another, and

2668
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:52,439
Speaker 10: then finished strong. No super super which I when I saw.

2669
02:18:52,440 --> 02:18:55,240
Speaker 3: Is the Is the women WNBA three point line the

2670
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:58,039
Speaker 3: same as the NBA three point line? No? No, I

2671
02:18:58,040 --> 02:18:58,880
Speaker 3: didn't think it's not.

2672
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:00,680
Speaker 8: But still you got twenty in a row.

2673
02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:02,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good.

2674
02:19:02,040 --> 02:19:04,520
Speaker 8: People were poo pooing it online that it wasn't.

2675
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:08,920
Speaker 10: Because people technically, I know good, she technically beat Steph

2676
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:11,280
Speaker 10: Curry's record like points wise and all that.

2677
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:14,120
Speaker 3: See. I don't like that comparison, but that's it's true.

2678
02:19:14,120 --> 02:19:15,039
Speaker 8: Though it is a.

2679
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:18,240
Speaker 2: Fact, but it's it's not because it's not the same.

2680
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:21,520
Speaker 2: It's like when the Yukon women won ninety in a row,

2681
02:19:21,959 --> 02:19:25,119
Speaker 2: the women's basketball team, they say they broke UCLA's record

2682
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:25,680
Speaker 2: of eighty.

2683
02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:27,760
Speaker 3: Eight in a row. I'm like, when is They're not

2684
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:30,440
Speaker 3: even the same sport? When is men's tennis the other's

2685
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:32,840
Speaker 3: women's tennis, it's they got a disagree though.

2686
02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:33,439
Speaker 8: I understand.

2687
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:35,680
Speaker 10: I understand that they're not doing the exact same thing,

2688
02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:37,039
Speaker 10: like I get that, but in.

2689
02:19:37,080 --> 02:19:40,240
Speaker 2: Your Raco record, it's still the record on the men's side.

2690
02:19:40,640 --> 02:19:42,959
Speaker 2: To me, it's a disservant. I've said this many times.

2691
02:19:43,040 --> 02:19:46,039
Speaker 2: I think the pool Caps get to somehow, you know,

2692
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:49,280
Speaker 2: justify a record that it has to be compared to

2693
02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:49,560
Speaker 2: the men.

2694
02:19:49,800 --> 02:19:52,039
Speaker 3: It can stand on its own, it can't.

2695
02:19:51,800 --> 02:19:54,720
Speaker 8: Stand on its own, and she stands over Yeah, steph.

2696
02:19:54,440 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 2: Poo pookay and so much poo poo, how much? Now

2697
02:19:58,840 --> 02:20:02,840
Speaker 2: we got the Women's World Cup starting. The United States

2698
02:20:02,840 --> 02:20:05,480
Speaker 2: team is trying to win a third straight World Cup,

2699
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:09,879
Speaker 2: something that's never happened on the men's side. The country's

2700
02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:14,720
Speaker 2: ever won three consecutive World Cup. I feel like I've

2701
02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:16,920
Speaker 2: been watching the Women's World Cup all the way since

2702
02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:19,680
Speaker 2: ninety nine, you know, the famous victory at the Rose

2703
02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Bowl and everything else. Is that something you're going to

2704
02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:24,480
Speaker 2: be watching rich Women's World Cup?

2705
02:20:25,080 --> 02:20:25,440
Speaker 4: You know what?

2706
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2707
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:30,640
Speaker 4: I tune in for it. I think it's look, I

2708
02:20:30,720 --> 02:20:35,840
Speaker 4: have to admit more and more the international competitions haven't

2709
02:20:35,879 --> 02:20:38,959
Speaker 4: been I remember growing up the Olympics were really important

2710
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:41,199
Speaker 4: to me. Yeah, they were on my house all the time,

2711
02:20:41,240 --> 02:20:45,920
Speaker 4: sure it, it was a fascination. I didn't grow up

2712
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:48,760
Speaker 4: in a household that cared much about soccer, So the

2713
02:20:48,800 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 4: World Cup was never turned on television. I'm not even

2714
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:55,160
Speaker 4: one hundred percent sure it was televised in the nineties.

2715
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you.

2716
02:20:56,240 --> 02:20:58,400
Speaker 3: It was because I watched it with my father in

2717
02:20:58,480 --> 02:20:59,760
Speaker 3: law in the nineties.

2718
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:01,680
Speaker 4: Didn't tell you whether it was or wasn't. It just

2719
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:07,520
Speaker 4: never ended up being on our television. Right. So, now,

2720
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:11,119
Speaker 4: as an adult, I've watched I think every World Cup

2721
02:21:11,520 --> 02:21:15,520
Speaker 4: games that the US has played in. Yeah, and then

2722
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:18,200
Speaker 4: also all of the Olympics, or I shouldn't say all

2723
02:21:18,240 --> 02:21:21,120
Speaker 4: of the Olympics, but I tune in each year. But

2724
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:23,760
Speaker 4: I'm more and more disillusioned by it because there's there's

2725
02:21:24,400 --> 02:21:27,760
Speaker 4: this feeling that I have and maybe this will eventually

2726
02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:33,520
Speaker 4: matriculate its way into college athletics as well. Where this

2727
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:37,720
Speaker 4: used to be important because it was amateurism. This used

2728
02:21:37,760 --> 02:21:40,119
Speaker 4: to be important because there was this at least maybe

2729
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 4: it was just a sold Maybe it was just a

2730
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 4: sold thought process that that you were watching all of

2731
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:51,160
Speaker 4: these countries' best amateurs compete against each other.

2732
02:21:51,160 --> 02:21:53,640
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, we were amateurs. The other countries

2733
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:57,280
Speaker 2: were not well, sure, especially the comedies. Communist countries were

2734
02:21:57,280 --> 02:21:58,480
Speaker 2: subsidizing their athletes.

2735
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the United States was was providing their amateurs.

2736
02:22:01,720 --> 02:22:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2737
02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:05,320
Speaker 4: And then you know, obviously the Dream Team changed that.

2738
02:22:05,680 --> 02:22:09,400
Speaker 4: And then obviously the marketability of these Olympics stars et cetera,

2739
02:22:09,440 --> 02:22:12,760
Speaker 4: et cetera. They're all professional athletes now, and so I

2740
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:15,120
Speaker 4: don't know, it's diminished at something for me a little bit.

2741
02:22:15,560 --> 02:22:18,280
Speaker 4: And then on top of it, like to be perfectly

2742
02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:22,320
Speaker 4: frank with you, like the the failure of the men's

2743
02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:24,920
Speaker 4: team in the World Cup to have success on the

2744
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:27,240
Speaker 4: world stage, right, I mean, I'm out.

2745
02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:29,560
Speaker 3: Well when we're talking about the ladies because they've had

2746
02:22:29,640 --> 02:22:31,520
Speaker 3: they dominated. Yeah, the World's Cup.

2747
02:22:31,640 --> 02:22:33,720
Speaker 4: That that has been the one that I'll stick through

2748
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:38,040
Speaker 4: the most. But yeah, I mean again, even then, my

2749
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:41,400
Speaker 4: my interest level was Wayne. As I've gotten older, I've

2750
02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:47,000
Speaker 4: become less interested in international sports and more interesting interesting frankly,

2751
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:51,439
Speaker 4: in like the NFL, Major League Baseball, in the NBA.

2752
02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:52,400
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

2753
02:22:52,520 --> 02:22:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. All right, let's find out what's trending

2754
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 2: right now. Let's find out if Moncey believes the same.

2755
02:22:58,080 --> 02:23:03,400
Speaker 3: Monsey, do you have a keen Athlee yes, oh no, no,

2756
02:23:03,520 --> 02:23:04,360
Speaker 3: but that's an America.

2757
02:23:04,400 --> 02:23:06,560
Speaker 2: But I mean, do you have a keen interest in

2758
02:23:06,640 --> 02:23:09,640
Speaker 2: what's happening on the international sports stage.

2759
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:13,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, not as much as the stuff we have going

2760
02:23:13,480 --> 02:23:16,800
Speaker 10: on here, but yes, yeah, my family is definitely into

2761
02:23:16,840 --> 02:23:18,640
Speaker 10: all international soccer, you know.

2762
02:23:18,959 --> 02:23:20,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're Coasta Regan.

2763
02:23:20,320 --> 02:23:24,280
Speaker 2: We just lost Chris here, who's a big international side. Well,

2764
02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:28,320
Speaker 2: how about you any interest in international sports?

2765
02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:29,119
Speaker 8: Soccer?

2766
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, soccer, basketball like foeba, I'll watch that, you do, Yeah, yeah.

2767
02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'll be watching the ladies. I've been

2768
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:40,600
Speaker 3: watching the World Cup for the on the lady side forever.

2769
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:42,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, you have to there.

2770
02:23:42,320 --> 02:23:45,160
Speaker 4: Are definitely, I just feel this way about the World Cup.

2771
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:48,640
Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm not a year round soccer fan. I'm

2772
02:23:48,640 --> 02:23:52,000
Speaker 4: not a year round Olympics fan. Yeah, and so I'm

2773
02:23:52,080 --> 02:23:54,960
Speaker 4: jumping in on storylines that have to be tall to

2774
02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:58,600
Speaker 4: me and taught to me, sure, like you know, in haste,

2775
02:23:58,680 --> 02:24:01,160
Speaker 4: like you know, like when I watch that NFL, Major

2776
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:04,279
Speaker 4: League Baseball, Like I pay close attention to these sports

2777
02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:06,680
Speaker 4: on a daily basis. And not to say that the

2778
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:10,320
Speaker 4: competitiveness of the women's side or the more frankly, the

2779
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:14,960
Speaker 4: men's side in recent years getting better isn't interesting. It's

2780
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:17,680
Speaker 4: just I just don't know these players, right. I might

2781
02:24:17,800 --> 02:24:20,520
Speaker 4: know one or two of them by name, and outside

2782
02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:23,440
Speaker 4: of that, it's just a bunch of anonymous guys or

2783
02:24:23,480 --> 02:24:27,600
Speaker 4: gals competing. So I don't know for me obvious, and

2784
02:24:27,640 --> 02:24:29,680
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm probably speaking for a lot of

2785
02:24:29,720 --> 02:24:34,600
Speaker 4: people in this country. The NBA, the MLB, and the

2786
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:38,600
Speaker 4: NFL are far more interesting because I'm attached to the

2787
02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:42,200
Speaker 4: storylines of these players. As you know, the soap opera

2788
02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:44,400
Speaker 4: continues to play out over years and years and years.

2789
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:45,760
Speaker 8: They're just more relatable to you.

2790
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:49,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly exactly, which I mean. That makes sense, and

2791
02:24:49,120 --> 02:24:51,640
Speaker 10: that can be with anything with any score, even if

2792
02:24:51,640 --> 02:24:54,199
Speaker 10: somebody doesn't follow a particular score. Here in the US,

2793
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:56,480
Speaker 10: they're just more relatable, so you feel more connected.

2794
02:24:56,959 --> 02:24:59,959
Speaker 8: I get that. Let's check in on Major League based.

2795
02:25:00,200 --> 02:25:02,840
Speaker 10: A couple of games have wrapped up, like the Giants

2796
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:05,199
Speaker 10: beating the Pirates eight to four. They scored five runs

2797
02:25:05,240 --> 02:25:08,040
Speaker 10: in the tenth inning to get this victory. The White

2798
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:10,840
Speaker 10: Sox did hand the Braves their second straight loss, and

2799
02:25:10,879 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 10: it was another dominant performance. Eight to one was the

2800
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 10: final score. Louise Robert Junior went four for five at

2801
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 10: the plate, a two run homer, three RBIs in the victory.

2802
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:22,520
Speaker 10: The Orioles held on to beat the Marlins five to four,

2803
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:25,200
Speaker 10: but the Marlins scored four runs in the bottom of

2804
02:25:25,280 --> 02:25:28,280
Speaker 10: the ninth inning to make it interesting. But we got

2805
02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:31,120
Speaker 10: to check in on Luis Ariz. He went zero for

2806
02:25:31,360 --> 02:25:34,360
Speaker 10: five at the plate today, but he's still batting three eighty,

2807
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:35,959
Speaker 10: which is still above.

2808
02:25:36,120 --> 02:25:37,400
Speaker 3: He's not hitting four hundred.

2809
02:25:37,480 --> 02:25:40,080
Speaker 10: Okay, he's not hitting but he's still three eight.

2810
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:43,600
Speaker 8: Don't don't be poo pooing. We already said we don't

2811
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:46,160
Speaker 8: like pot I kick that.

2812
02:25:46,840 --> 02:25:47,640
Speaker 4: Stop it with.

2813
02:25:49,879 --> 02:25:52,680
Speaker 8: Yes, no poo pooing anymore.

2814
02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:55,400
Speaker 4: You sound like an outboard motor on a boat when

2815
02:25:55,480 --> 02:26:01,720
Speaker 4: you try to roll your rs.

2816
02:26:01,720 --> 02:26:02,879
Speaker 8: That's good, that's good.

2817
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:06,039
Speaker 10: The next best team in baseball is also losing. The

2818
02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:09,600
Speaker 10: Royals are dominating the Rays seven zero. They're about to

2819
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:11,680
Speaker 10: start the bottom of the seventh inning. The Brewers and

2820
02:26:11,720 --> 02:26:14,080
Speaker 10: the Reds have been back and forth. Brewers back on top,

2821
02:26:14,120 --> 02:26:17,160
Speaker 10: four to three, bottom of the ninth inning in Cincinnati.

2822
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:19,480
Speaker 10: The Reds are down to their final out. The Blue

2823
02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:21,920
Speaker 10: Jays holding onto their lead over the Diamondbacks at home

2824
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:24,520
Speaker 10: seven to two. Top of the ninth inning. The Padres

2825
02:26:24,560 --> 02:26:26,200
Speaker 10: and the Phillies were on a rain delay for like

2826
02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:29,120
Speaker 10: last hour and a half two hours. Padres are officially

2827
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:29,879
Speaker 10: on the scoreboard.

2828
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:30,320
Speaker 8: One zero.

2829
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:32,959
Speaker 10: Top of the first inning, Red Sox all over the

2830
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:36,080
Speaker 10: Cubs eleven to one. Bottom of the eighth, Cardinals beating

2831
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:37,280
Speaker 10: the Nationals eight to three.

2832
02:26:37,320 --> 02:26:38,600
Speaker 8: We're back on a rain delay.

2833
02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:41,240
Speaker 10: It's the bottom of the seventh inning, Guardians beating the

2834
02:26:41,320 --> 02:26:44,039
Speaker 10: Rangers three to two. Bottom of the seventh, Rockies still

2835
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:46,640
Speaker 10: up on the Yankees one zero, bottom of the fifth,

2836
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:49,320
Speaker 10: Mariners up on the Tigers one zero, as up on

2837
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 10: the Twins one zero early in the games for those

2838
02:26:52,320 --> 02:26:54,160
Speaker 10: two and then yes, we have a twenty year old

2839
02:26:54,200 --> 02:26:57,320
Speaker 10: champion number one seed Carlos Akraaz to throw number two.

2840
02:26:57,320 --> 02:26:59,800
Speaker 10: See Novak Djokovic and the men's singles final twin is

2841
02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:04,200
Speaker 10: first ever Wimbledon title and Novak Djokovic after said that

2842
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:06,760
Speaker 10: he's never played a player like Carlos Alcoraz.

2843
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:07,680
Speaker 8: This was the quote.

2844
02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:10,840
Speaker 10: People have been talking about his game, consisting of certain

2845
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:14,600
Speaker 10: elements from Roger Rafa and myself. I'd agree with that

2846
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:17,120
Speaker 10: he's basically got the best of all three worlds.

2847
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:19,160
Speaker 8: I haven't played a player like him.

2848
02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:22,680
Speaker 3: Ever, that's some of the shots he was making today

2849
02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:26,320
Speaker 3: were stupid, unbelievable.

2850
02:27:27,400 --> 02:27:30,160
Speaker 10: Yeahs ridiculous.

2851
02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 3: So I and Djokovic was excited for the kid, Yes.

2852
02:27:35,400 --> 02:27:40,200
Speaker 2: Yes, he genuinely excited to have a look at it.

2853
02:27:40,520 --> 02:27:43,680
Speaker 2: You know, if you're part of tennis history like a Djokovic, right,

2854
02:27:43,879 --> 02:27:46,920
Speaker 2: you're excited that there's another kid they keep it going.

2855
02:27:47,000 --> 02:27:49,960
Speaker 3: You know, Better's retired, Adull's got one more year.

2856
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:50,200
Speaker 4: Ye.

2857
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:53,120
Speaker 2: Obviously, Djokovic on the back end of his career and

2858
02:27:53,160 --> 02:27:56,360
Speaker 2: you want the sport to continue to go, right, So

2859
02:27:56,480 --> 02:27:57,959
Speaker 2: he's thrilled for sure.

2860
02:27:58,440 --> 02:28:01,720
Speaker 8: It is going. DeAndre Howlkins is going to Tennessee.

2861
02:28:01,760 --> 02:28:02,360
Speaker 4: Is that true?

2862
02:28:02,640 --> 02:28:03,600
Speaker 8: That's what they're saying.

2863
02:28:04,400 --> 02:28:07,480
Speaker 10: Apparently he's signing a two year deal twenty six million

2864
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:09,760
Speaker 10: worth up to thirty two million with incentives with the

2865
02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:13,400
Speaker 10: Tennessee with the Tennessee Titans. So if he reaches ninety

2866
02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:17,320
Speaker 10: five catches, one thousand and fifty yards and ten touchdowns,

2867
02:28:17,480 --> 02:28:20,320
Speaker 10: he gets all the incentives. It's obviously broken down even more.

2868
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:23,480
Speaker 10: But if he wants allston in fifty thousand and fifty.

2869
02:28:23,320 --> 02:28:25,359
Speaker 3: In a seventeen game season.

2870
02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:27,240
Speaker 8: Yes, ten touchdowns byty.

2871
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Yards a game, he better hit that keep mill back

2872
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:34,200
Speaker 3: to you, Gays, Hi, great stuff is always now.

2873
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:37,000
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I love listening to Rich on his

2874
02:28:37,120 --> 02:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Saturday show, And you were bringing up Austin Eckler.

2875
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:42,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2876
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:46,400
Speaker 2: So Austin Eckler the last two seasons for the Chargers

2877
02:28:46,520 --> 02:28:49,120
Speaker 2: has played every single game, let's just start right there,

2878
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:52,440
Speaker 2: all right, thirty three straight games. In those thirty three games,

2879
02:28:52,440 --> 02:28:54,959
Speaker 2: he has scored thirty eight touchdowns. He has led the

2880
02:28:55,040 --> 02:28:58,760
Speaker 2: NFL and touchdowns scored each of the last two years.

2881
02:28:58,800 --> 02:29:02,040
Speaker 2: Two years ago was twenty. Last you're eighteen. So he's

2882
02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:06,039
Speaker 2: durable and productive. I mean, what more do you want

2883
02:29:06,040 --> 02:29:06,720
Speaker 2: out of a player?

2884
02:29:06,800 --> 02:29:06,959
Speaker 4: Right?

2885
02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:09,520
Speaker 2: I want a guy that's there to answer the bell

2886
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:12,040
Speaker 2: and then when he's on the field to be productive.

2887
02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:17,000
Speaker 2: And Austin Eckler boom check, boom check. And he can't

2888
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:19,600
Speaker 2: get any extra money, you know, a few incentives and

2889
02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:21,840
Speaker 2: everything else. And it just to me brings up the

2890
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:24,840
Speaker 2: idea because it used to be Rich. If you're a

2891
02:29:24,959 --> 02:29:29,119
Speaker 2: running back, if you're good enough to be a running back,

2892
02:29:29,160 --> 02:29:32,360
Speaker 2: you could probably play almost any position out on the field.

2893
02:29:32,440 --> 02:29:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you could be a safety, you could be

2894
02:29:33,959 --> 02:29:37,200
Speaker 2: a corner, you could be a wide receiver. In some

2895
02:29:37,240 --> 02:29:39,599
Speaker 2: cases you might even be able to be a quarterback.

2896
02:29:41,080 --> 02:29:43,440
Speaker 2: Why would any want to be a running back if

2897
02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:46,320
Speaker 2: you know now that a Dalwn Cook who's had for sike.

2898
02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:49,080
Speaker 2: Because we were watching that quarterback show on Netflix. I

2899
02:29:49,160 --> 02:29:51,640
Speaker 2: was watching my son Garrett. He's like, because they're showing

2900
02:29:51,680 --> 02:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousin highlights and he's like, why would the Vikings

2901
02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:58,240
Speaker 2: get rid of Dalwn Cook? Another guy who by the way,

2902
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:00,320
Speaker 2: played all seventeen games a year ago as.

2903
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:00,840
Speaker 3: A pro bowler.

2904
02:30:01,480 --> 02:30:04,760
Speaker 2: Why why again, if you were a young player and

2905
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:07,800
Speaker 2: you have that kind of talent to play the running

2906
02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:11,400
Speaker 2: back position, wouldn't you say, you know what, I'm gonna

2907
02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:15,280
Speaker 2: play cornerback instead, or a wide receiver or something along

2908
02:30:15,280 --> 02:30:18,280
Speaker 2: those lines. They're getting paid running backs are not.

2909
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:21,320
Speaker 4: Well, all right, you're you're saying if you're a younger player,

2910
02:30:21,360 --> 02:30:21,800
Speaker 4: I'm talking.

2911
02:30:21,640 --> 02:30:22,720
Speaker 3: About a younger player.

2912
02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:24,360
Speaker 2: And let's say I'm coming out of high school and

2913
02:30:24,400 --> 02:30:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm one of those you know, five star guys, and

2914
02:30:26,680 --> 02:30:28,560
Speaker 2: they say, yep, we're gonna have you at running back.

2915
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:32,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm I'm so sure about that, all right.

2916
02:30:32,680 --> 02:30:34,560
Speaker 2: Let's cause at the end of that, I want to

2917
02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:36,640
Speaker 2: play in the NFL. That's not where the money is.

2918
02:30:36,680 --> 02:30:40,920
Speaker 4: Let's let's put this on perspective. Okay, I'm not saying

2919
02:30:40,959 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 4: that Austin Eckler or Sakwon Barkley, or or any of

2920
02:30:46,600 --> 02:30:47,599
Speaker 4: these running.

2921
02:30:47,240 --> 02:30:48,160
Speaker 3: Backs Dalvin Cook.

2922
02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:51,800
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not saying for a second that they do

2923
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:55,760
Speaker 4: not have a case and and that that case is

2924
02:30:55,800 --> 02:31:01,240
Speaker 4: actually warranted and and of of sound logic. But like,

2925
02:31:01,320 --> 02:31:06,720
Speaker 4: for example, Austin Eckler, over a four year contract, will

2926
02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:10,640
Speaker 4: make twenty four and a half million dollars, and then

2927
02:31:10,680 --> 02:31:14,520
Speaker 4: he's added incentives by openly complaining about how he feels

2928
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:20,440
Speaker 4: he's underpaid, like I do. Yes, there there is a

2929
02:31:20,480 --> 02:31:25,800
Speaker 4: point to be made about young athletes potentially being interested

2930
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:30,320
Speaker 4: in changing their positions. But if a young Austin Eckler

2931
02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:33,560
Speaker 4: was asked, you know, prior to being an undrafted free

2932
02:31:33,600 --> 02:31:36,800
Speaker 4: agent in the NFL, even during college, if he would

2933
02:31:36,840 --> 02:31:40,760
Speaker 4: ever change his position because twenty four and a half

2934
02:31:40,879 --> 02:31:44,560
Speaker 4: million dollars wouldn't be enough, he would laugh at you

2935
02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:46,800
Speaker 4: and he would say, hey, where do I sign that contract?

2936
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:50,840
Speaker 4: That sounds more than fair. Look, we're talking about millionaires,

2937
02:31:51,360 --> 02:31:53,600
Speaker 4: and we're talking about a tremendous amount of money, and

2938
02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:57,920
Speaker 4: we're talking about complaints that do not resonate with the everyman,

2939
02:31:58,760 --> 02:32:00,680
Speaker 4: Like there are people who are brain making their back

2940
02:32:00,720 --> 02:32:04,240
Speaker 4: digging ditches in this country who aren't nearly admittedly as

2941
02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:07,520
Speaker 4: talented as Austin Eckler or Dalvin Cooker, Saquon Barkley or

2942
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:10,840
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs. They're not, and nobody is interested in watching

2943
02:32:10,840 --> 02:32:13,720
Speaker 4: them dig ditches. Everybody is interested in watching Austin Eckler

2944
02:32:13,760 --> 02:32:17,280
Speaker 4: and Saquon Barkley run the football. But my point is

2945
02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:22,120
Speaker 4: that this, this complaining about how they're they're not being

2946
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:27,600
Speaker 4: valued while making tens of millions of dollars is it's

2947
02:32:27,640 --> 02:32:30,959
Speaker 4: a hard argument. It falls on deaf years with fans,

2948
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:37,240
Speaker 4: these these public conversations about this are difficult for the

2949
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:40,440
Speaker 4: fan base, Like this is the reason why football players

2950
02:32:40,480 --> 02:32:45,600
Speaker 4: typically lose favors in these holdouts against owners, because they'll

2951
02:32:45,640 --> 02:32:50,480
Speaker 4: say something that sounds greedy, because in some ways it

2952
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:53,760
Speaker 4: kind of is you know, they're thinking about theirselves instead

2953
02:32:53,760 --> 02:32:56,480
Speaker 4: of their team success. It's a team support, et cetera,

2954
02:32:56,520 --> 02:32:59,080
Speaker 4: et cetera. But at the same token, I don't blame

2955
02:32:59,120 --> 02:33:02,480
Speaker 4: them because guess what anybody in their situation would do

2956
02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:04,560
Speaker 4: what they're doing if it meant on the other side

2957
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:06,959
Speaker 4: of it, making a boatload of money. And my argument

2958
02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:10,320
Speaker 4: was everybody looks at Le'Veon Bell and they talk about

2959
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:13,840
Speaker 4: it like, boy, he really he strewed his career, did he?

2960
02:33:14,680 --> 02:33:17,519
Speaker 4: I mean Le'Veon Bell held out a year in Pittsburgh

2961
02:33:17,680 --> 02:33:20,440
Speaker 4: and then he made a gigantic amount of money signing

2962
02:33:20,440 --> 02:33:22,039
Speaker 4: a huge contract with the New.

2963
02:33:22,000 --> 02:33:24,080
Speaker 3: York Jets and didn't produce, by the way.

2964
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:26,040
Speaker 4: Didn't produce, but he still got paid he did.

2965
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:29,440
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm just trying to put a value here though,

2966
02:33:29,680 --> 02:33:33,080
Speaker 2: because d hop reportedly is getting a two year deal

2967
02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:38,520
Speaker 2: that could be worth with reasonable incentives, thirty two million dollars, right, Yeah,

2968
02:33:38,560 --> 02:33:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean is a wide receiver like DeAndre Hopkins more

2969
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:45,920
Speaker 2: valuable in terms of what he brings on the field

2970
02:33:45,959 --> 02:33:49,120
Speaker 2: to a Davin Cook or a Josh Jacobs or an

2971
02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:49,920
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler.

2972
02:33:50,080 --> 02:33:51,120
Speaker 3: Is he more valuable?

2973
02:33:51,640 --> 02:33:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah he is? He is.

2974
02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I see, I don't look at it

2975
02:33:55,320 --> 02:33:57,440
Speaker 2: that way, but I'm taking it from you. You think

2976
02:33:57,480 --> 02:34:00,959
Speaker 2: a wide receiver, yes, like that has more value because

2977
02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:02,680
Speaker 2: to me, I look at a wide receiver like we

2978
02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 2: go back to the Randy Moss situation. He was a

2979
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:07,600
Speaker 2: stead of Minnesota disappear in the Raiders because they didn't

2980
02:34:07,600 --> 02:34:10,240
Speaker 2: have a quarterback. He goes to New England Tom Brady's then,

2981
02:34:10,280 --> 02:34:11,560
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he's putting up Hall of

2982
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:12,360
Speaker 2: a numbers again.

2983
02:34:12,440 --> 02:34:14,960
Speaker 4: Well just look, Okay, so you're you're a big fan

2984
02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:18,720
Speaker 4: of like Hall of Fame's Halls of Fame, Yes, like

2985
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:21,760
Speaker 4: they're important to you. And there are certain players, and

2986
02:34:21,800 --> 02:34:25,280
Speaker 4: I've heard you make this argument before that there are

2987
02:34:25,280 --> 02:34:29,640
Speaker 4: certain players who aren't Hall of famers. They're greats who

2988
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:31,720
Speaker 4: are stack compilers.

2989
02:34:31,720 --> 02:34:34,040
Speaker 3: Right right, or they were on the right team at

2990
02:34:34,040 --> 02:34:34,800
Speaker 3: the right time.

2991
02:34:34,800 --> 02:34:36,840
Speaker 4: Or right or you know, just happen to be in

2992
02:34:36,879 --> 02:34:40,680
Speaker 4: the correct environment. Okay, So running backs, if a good

2993
02:34:40,760 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 4: year for a running back still with seventeen games is

2994
02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:47,480
Speaker 4: over one thousand yards, that still seems to be the benchmark. Well,

2995
02:34:47,800 --> 02:34:52,160
Speaker 4: nowadays that has become the same for a wide receiver.

2996
02:34:52,360 --> 02:34:54,320
Speaker 4: Like a good year for a wide receiver is one

2997
02:34:54,320 --> 02:34:56,760
Speaker 4: thousand yards. But if you look at the ways in

2998
02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:59,080
Speaker 4: which a wide receiver gets to one thousand yards versus

2999
02:34:59,080 --> 02:35:02,800
Speaker 4: a running back, it is by and I'm talking about

3000
02:35:02,840 --> 02:35:06,960
Speaker 4: a good season for a wide receiver. It's averaging twelve

3001
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:12,560
Speaker 4: to fourteen yards per catch, it's scoring something to the

3002
02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:14,199
Speaker 4: realm of fifteen to twenty touchdow.

3003
02:35:14,200 --> 02:35:15,880
Speaker 2: Do you guys have a quarterback gets you the ball?

3004
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:18,600
Speaker 2: In other words, a catch is like a handoff. The

3005
02:35:18,640 --> 02:35:20,560
Speaker 2: difference is it travels through the air.

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Speaker 4: But a lot of these guys, and Austin Eckler included,

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02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:25,840
Speaker 4: is not just talking about the fact that they're so

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02:35:26,040 --> 02:35:28,160
Speaker 4: valuable in the run game. They're also talking about the

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02:35:28,200 --> 02:35:29,760
Speaker 4: touches they get in the passing game, the.

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Speaker 3: Whole to one hundred and seven passes last year, exactly

3011
02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:33,960
Speaker 3: on top of being a running back.

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Speaker 4: So my thought process here is Austin Eckler, the way

3013
02:35:37,640 --> 02:35:40,959
Speaker 4: he should really frame his debate about this is I

3014
02:35:41,000 --> 02:35:45,160
Speaker 4: should be I should be I should be represented as

3015
02:35:45,160 --> 02:35:47,880
Speaker 4: a wide receiver on this team. Right, That's who I am.

3016
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:50,360
Speaker 4: That's my value to this team. It would make more

3017
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:52,840
Speaker 4: sense in the argument as opposed to saying like, I'm

3018
02:35:52,879 --> 02:35:55,560
Speaker 4: a running back, but I'm an important piece of this

3019
02:35:55,680 --> 02:35:59,440
Speaker 4: offense and my position is being undervalued. Right. No, you're

3020
02:36:00,040 --> 02:36:02,960
Speaker 4: your specific role on the Chargers is really important to

3021
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:06,039
Speaker 4: the Chargers because you catch boatloads of passes. But the

3022
02:36:06,080 --> 02:36:09,440
Speaker 4: typical running back they carry the ball for four yards

3023
02:36:09,440 --> 02:36:12,080
Speaker 4: to carry, five yards to carry and everybody goes, great job. Well,

3024
02:36:12,080 --> 02:36:14,600
Speaker 4: guess what, the receiver who's earning the same amount of

3025
02:36:14,680 --> 02:36:17,920
Speaker 4: yardage having a good season is averaging twelve yards to

3026
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:21,760
Speaker 4: catch or fourteen yards to catch. And that's amazing because

3027
02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:25,520
Speaker 4: that suddenly changes the offense's ability to have success on

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02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:26,360
Speaker 4: any given drive.

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02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:28,480
Speaker 2: All right, well, we are up against it. But I mean,

3030
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:31,200
Speaker 2: bottom line here, he had three I'm sorry, gout Austin Eckler.

3031
02:36:31,240 --> 02:36:35,400
Speaker 2: He had three hundred and eleven carries slash of receptions

3032
02:36:35,440 --> 02:36:38,199
Speaker 2: a year ago. And obviously there's never been a receiver

3033
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:40,080
Speaker 2: that's had three hundred catches in a season.

3034
02:36:40,200 --> 02:36:43,000
Speaker 3: So how many touches does he have? How many yards

3035
02:36:43,040 --> 02:36:43,520
Speaker 3: does he get?

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02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, and again, when you're handed the ball off

3037
02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:48,400
Speaker 2: as opposed to catching the pass twenty yards down the field,

3038
02:36:48,520 --> 02:36:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't know it's apples and oranges, but I see

3039
02:36:52,120 --> 02:36:55,080
Speaker 2: the frustration. But again, if the money is at the

3040
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:59,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver position rather than the running back position, and

3041
02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:01,720
Speaker 2: I can who's early on in my career which direction

3042
02:37:01,760 --> 02:37:03,520
Speaker 2: I want to go, I'm gonna go where the money

3043
02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:05,520
Speaker 2: is down the road. All right, On the other side,

3044
02:37:05,920 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 2: what are we looking forward to in the week coming up?

3045
02:37:08,200 --> 02:37:10,160
Speaker 2: You'll find out this is Fox Sports Sunday.

3046
02:37:10,400 --> 02:37:13,760
Speaker 3: He serves to baccan reply, comes over to his foont

3047
02:37:13,800 --> 02:37:14,880
Speaker 3: he drives it into the corner.

3048
02:37:14,959 --> 02:37:16,480
Speaker 4: Jocovin just put it in the nets.

3049
02:37:17,120 --> 02:37:22,359
Speaker 2: A terius on the floor in disbelief, an absolute ecstasy.

3050
02:37:23,800 --> 02:37:26,119
Speaker 3: He is the new Wimbledon champion.

3051
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:31,000
Speaker 1: They shake hands up an unembrace, a woomb embrace.

3052
02:37:31,240 --> 02:37:34,680
Speaker 3: These two warriors of the sport, the best two in

3053
02:37:34,760 --> 02:37:35,560
Speaker 3: the men's game.

3054
02:37:36,120 --> 02:37:38,359
Speaker 4: And it is the world number one, the young.

3055
02:37:38,240 --> 02:37:42,039
Speaker 3: Master who has toppled the great champion of Wibbledon in

3056
02:37:42,080 --> 02:37:45,960
Speaker 3: the last two years. Yes, that's the Wimbledon radio networking.

3057
02:37:46,080 --> 02:37:50,720
Speaker 2: Indeed, it was an epic men's final there gentlemen's finals.

3058
02:37:50,720 --> 02:37:53,520
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Speaker 2: We are live from the tire Rock dot Com studios.

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02:38:11,920 --> 02:38:16,320
Speaker 2: It's a team here, It's a team. A Iowa Sam

3066
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Speaker 2: with his hog eyes yeah shirt.

3067
02:38:19,200 --> 02:38:20,480
Speaker 3: On today I saw it.

3068
02:38:20,600 --> 02:38:22,080
Speaker 4: I love it hot guys.

3069
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:23,080
Speaker 3: You know who else loved it?

3070
02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:28,279
Speaker 9: Jeff Schwartz, Jeff Schwartz, it's it's.

3071
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:30,959
Speaker 3: The offensive linemen everywhere. Well, we'll certified approved. Very nice

3072
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:34,440
Speaker 3: spin on your beloved hawkeys. Monsei. Trying to get a

3073
02:38:34,440 --> 02:38:42,440
Speaker 3: little nourishment in a long day here, I am, I am?

3074
02:38:42,840 --> 02:38:43,520
Speaker 8: What am I having?

3075
02:38:43,720 --> 02:38:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

3076
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:47,320
Speaker 10: I'm having a vegan fried rice.

3077
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:53,080
Speaker 3: Vegan fried rice right with like Grace vegan. Yeah, it's

3078
02:38:53,640 --> 02:38:56,440
Speaker 3: unbelievable because bo is eating a full bowl of that

3079
02:38:56,520 --> 02:38:56,840
Speaker 3: as well.

3080
02:38:56,840 --> 02:39:00,760
Speaker 4: You don't like rice is already.

3081
02:39:00,520 --> 02:39:04,680
Speaker 10: Vegan, right, So it has like, it has soy steak

3082
02:39:04,720 --> 02:39:05,600
Speaker 10: in it, and it.

3083
02:39:05,560 --> 02:39:08,720
Speaker 3: Has soy steak okay.

3084
02:39:08,400 --> 02:39:10,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, and all these veggies and they use like is

3085
02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:14,160
Speaker 10: it black rice? It could be yeah, because it's it's

3086
02:39:14,200 --> 02:39:14,520
Speaker 10: it's not.

3087
02:39:14,680 --> 02:39:16,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, it's delicious.

3088
02:39:16,480 --> 02:39:17,000
Speaker 4: So uh.

3089
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:23,640
Speaker 2: Soy steak is identical to the steak that most carnivorous

3090
02:39:23,680 --> 02:39:24,240
Speaker 2: people eat.

3091
02:39:24,280 --> 02:39:26,440
Speaker 4: You know what, they should rebrand it. They should call

3092
02:39:26,480 --> 02:39:28,640
Speaker 4: it mistake steak.

3093
02:39:28,879 --> 02:39:33,200
Speaker 10: It's not a mistake now, No, the texture wouldn't be

3094
02:39:33,200 --> 02:39:34,000
Speaker 10: exactly the same.

3095
02:39:34,200 --> 02:39:36,240
Speaker 3: It's like when I renamed the All Star Game the

3096
02:39:36,320 --> 02:39:36,760
Speaker 3: Some Star.

3097
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:38,880
Speaker 8: Yes, exactly exactly.

3098
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:44,840
Speaker 3: Not everybody's the star Not everything is some starck.

3099
02:39:45,440 --> 02:39:48,000
Speaker 4: Yes, and you're continual poo pooing.

3100
02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:50,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of poop poo intoda throughout the show.

3101
02:39:52,240 --> 02:39:54,920
Speaker 2: All right, So Richie, we look ahead to this week.

3102
02:39:55,360 --> 02:39:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the Open Championship. We'll be here

3103
02:39:57,879 --> 02:40:00,760
Speaker 2: for the final round. Actually it would probably be no, no,

3104
02:40:00,760 --> 02:40:01,240
Speaker 2: it would.

3105
02:40:01,040 --> 02:40:01,720
Speaker 3: Be like ending.

3106
02:40:01,879 --> 02:40:03,680
Speaker 2: That's the one thing I love about the Open Championship.

3107
02:40:03,680 --> 02:40:05,240
Speaker 2: It's up early, yeah.

3108
02:40:05,080 --> 02:40:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, wake up and have a little coffee. What's

3109
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:08,600
Speaker 4: some golf.

3110
02:40:08,600 --> 02:40:10,640
Speaker 3: Oh we're up against it. Keep it here. Much more

3111
02:40:10,640 --> 02:40:12,279
Speaker 3: coming up on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 4: Golf