1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Third hour, clay En Bucket's going now. We are joined 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: by Senator Marco Rubio of Florida. Senator Rubio, great, talk to. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: You again, Hey, thanks for having me on. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Let's start with this one, I mean, your colleague and 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: the Senate j. Ed Vance was outside of the courthouse 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: in New York this morning just giving his overview analysis 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: of what an outrage the whole thing is, how despicable 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: he finds the whole trial as you see this in 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, the star witness, and all the media focus 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: on it play out in New York. What are your 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: thoughts as somebody who serves this country and loves this country. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: My thoughts are that we have sanctioned other countries for 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: doing this in their politics, and anti democratic is basically 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: the targeting of the opposite the leading opposition candidate in 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: the next election, not with one trial, but with numerous 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: trials in the most one of the most liberal counties 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: in America, with a Biden supporting judge, a Biden supporting 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: process com who doesn't even go after violent criminals, but 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: has charged them on this, on this, on this ridiculous 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: bookkeeping charge that they've extended to a felony by finagling 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: federal law for reasons that I can't and explain how 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: crazy that is. It's just And then on top of that, 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: the president it's mired every single day by including witnesses 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: in this trial like Michael Cohen, and if he responds, 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: he gets fined and now threatened with jail. This trial, 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: of all the trials, I think are ridiculous, all of them, 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: but this one in particular is the most ridiculous. It 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: makes the country look like a third world banana republic, 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: like a kangaroo court democracy. It's an outrage. It's a 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: complete and total outage. If that trial was brought in 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: any other jurisdiction in America, just a normal, regular middle 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: road jurisdiction, there's no way to get a conviction if 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's last name is anything. No other person there 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: is not a single other person in the world who 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: this prosecutor would have charged with this with the same 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: set of facts, other than Donald Trump. So the whole 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: thing is I think an embarrassment to the country and 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: an outrage, and I think people see it for what 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: it is. 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Senator, When it comes to that last point is I 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: think the critical one. The issue of the American people 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: seeing through this. Not all of them obviously are going 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: to see truth and reality. But how would you describe 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: your confidence at this point that this campaign sort of generally, 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: not just New York, but more broadly as well of 46 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: legal or of law fair. You could say the legal 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: assault on Donald Trump is politically backfiring. Are you seeing 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: that already? You think it's too soon to tell. 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: I think even Democrats are embarrassed by it, which is 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: why they barely talk about it. I mean, the commentators giggle, 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: and you know, CNN is like wall to wall coverage, 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: even though they can't cover it. They're in the courtroom 53 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: like I guess someone's texting out what's happening. But beyond that, 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: like the average every day hard working person, they see 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: it for what Even people that aren't going to vote 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: for Trump, even people that may not like Trump. No 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: one is under any illusion about what this is about. 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: And of all places, Manhattan, where you have a district 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: attorney that they if you kill a couple of people, 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: you might not even be charged. I mean you'll certainly 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: be out on They all waiting a trial, and then 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: you drop the charges to something lower. You've got a 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: city where they this DA has notoriously not gone after 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: violent criminals and given people the ace and the ninth 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: chance to go out and reoffend. But they bring this 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: charge and with this much resources and time. So I 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: think people know there's no way with a straight face 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: to argue that this trial is a legitimate trial or 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: is anything other than political. And I do think that 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: among it's certainly motivating a lot of Trump's supporters, but 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: I think it's also influencing a lot of other people 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: that are asking themselves if, in fact, this guy is 73 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: so terrible and he's so bad and Biden's so good, 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: then why are they afraid to run against them? Why 75 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: are they doing everything possible and to keep him from 76 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: being able to campaign and uh and stand for election. 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: In fact, if you read some of the press coverage, 78 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: they have flat out or saying why aren't all of 79 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: these trials happening beforehand? All these trials need to happen now, 80 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: They need to happen right away. They've got to figure 81 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: out a way to bring this to trial before the election. 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: They all want this to happen now because I believe 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: the only way they think they can beat them at 84 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: this point speaking. 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: To Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and Senator I'm sure 86 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you've seen that with all the stuff going on in 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the world of prosecuting Donald Trump, the polls have him 88 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: across the board ahead in the swing states and mostly 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: considerably ahead and in some cases ahead in every swing state. 90 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: So the election if it were today, which we know 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: it's not so many months off, but it would look 92 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: very good for Donald Trump as it stands now. Would 93 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of this if offered? 94 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Have you discussed being a VP with former President Trump? 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Never? I've never talked to anybody on the campaign about it. 96 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: I've read about it in these papers, but I've never 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: heard it. And the reason I'm not trying to be cloy, 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: the reason why I don't spend a lot of time 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: thinking about it or talking about it, is because, frankly, 100 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: there's only one person on the planet who knows who 101 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: that's going to be, and that's Donald Trump, not his advisor, 102 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: not the people with inside knowledge of the campaign. He's 103 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: the only one He'll make that decision and he's the 104 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: only one that knows, So hearing it from anybody other 105 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: than him is really not something that I would put 106 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: a lot of credence in now. Look, just to be mentioned, 107 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: I guess you know, is an honor in and of itself, 108 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: and I would say this to you. Look, these people, 109 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: I truly believe if Joe Biden gets another term, these 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: people will destroy the country. They are doing it already. 111 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: Just think about immigration, ten million people, How many are 112 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: in three years? How many are going to come in 113 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: over the next four three and at four and a 114 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: half if he gets re elected. Okay, just that alone. 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: Look at the damage he's done to us around the world. 116 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: What happened with Afghanistan since that moment, Ukraine's been invaded, 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: Israel's been attacked, not being a lot covered every day, 118 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: but China is constantly harassing the Philippines and Taiwan that 119 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: could break out at any moment. North Korea's firing missiles 120 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: again of greater and great and greater Lothalities. The world's 121 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: gone nuts. Here at home, we got pro Hamas if 122 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 2: I never, in mind wildest dreams that I ever believed 123 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: we would see pro hamas sympathizers of terrorist them taking 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: over college campuses and flying the Palestinian flag over our 125 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: campuses and disrupting graduation ceremonies and finals and classes. 126 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Do you think on the campus protester center, do you 127 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: think that's a real legitimate challenge for the Democrats politically 128 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: or do you think it'll fade away. 129 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a challenge because it's not just 130 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: about the issue of the month. The issue now that 131 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: they're focused on is this issue of Hamas and Palestine 132 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: and their hatred of Israel. But this is the same movement, 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: by the way, the same group of people that are 134 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: constantly arguing that the US is an evil country of 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: colonizers that were imperialists, This is a nation founded on 136 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: white supremacy, that the world is divided between victims and victimizers, 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 2: and we are the victimizers, and so it's an anti Western, 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: anti US sentiment. That are the same people that tomorrow 139 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: the cause will be something else. But at its core 140 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: is they hate the country. They want America destroy. They 141 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: don't view this as a special country worth saving. They 142 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: view it as an inherently terrible one that needs to 143 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: be torn down and rebuilt into something else, and that 144 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: includes not having bordered and things of that nature. So 145 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: that movement is an enormous liability because it has become 146 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: a core of the Democratic Party. Not every Democrat, a 147 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: lot of Democrats don't agree with them, but that's where 148 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: they get their activists, that's where they get their staff, 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: that's where they populated the State Department and all the 150 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: other agencies of government. From these are the people that 151 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: help them raise money. Who funds these groups We know 152 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: now it is people that have given millions and millions 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: of dollars to Democratic causes who are funding this movement 154 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: or the groups that are the seed money for this movement. 155 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: So it's a huge liability because it pulls Democrats further 156 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: and further away in their policies from the everyday American, 157 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: including some who are registered as Democrats, are independent, and 158 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: that's why you're seeing Trump doing well among working class Hispanics, 159 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: working class African Americans, working class people across the board. 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: The Democrats have moved so far to the radical left 161 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: because of this core base of their party that it 162 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: is more and more people can't coexist with them politically. 163 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: It seems also that Biden, who's in my view, spent 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: his entire life just trying to find whatever the thing 165 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: is that he's supposed to say for the most popularity 166 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: among Democrats in the moment. I mean, I really think 167 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: that has been what his political career has been devoted to. 168 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: He seems to have been stumped a little bit here 169 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: on this issue of you know, Hamas and Israel and 170 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the pro Palestinian and anti Semitic factions on campus and 171 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: all the rest of it, to the point where he 172 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: even started talking about him. You've worked a lot on 173 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: a foreign affair side of the Senate and foreign policy. 174 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: For a president to seemingly bend the knee on an 175 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: issue as important as arms provision to Israel when it's 176 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: in an ongoing military campaign, I mean this is because 177 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: he's really worried about losing Michigan. Is it that simple? 178 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, and I think there's two things happening here. 179 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: You've got one element of the Democratic Party that supports Israel, 180 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: wants us to support ise and you've seen some of 181 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: these members of Congress sending letters and criticizing it. And 182 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: then the other element are the people in his campaign, 183 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: the people and staffing different levels of the State Department, 184 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: and it's political advisors that are saying, you know, we've 185 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: got to do something to appease this group. Because of 186 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: this group stayed home and doesn't vote for us. We're 187 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: going to lose the election. And so he's trying to 188 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: have it both ways. He wants to go around saying 189 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm ironclad with Israel, but then he tries to appease 190 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: them by saying, but I'm going to cut off their 191 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: weapons as they go into Rafa, or I hate I'm 192 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: not pro Israel, but I don't like net Yok. So 193 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: they've tried a lot of different strategies to try to 194 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: have it both ways. Here this is not the kind 195 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: of issue you can have it both ways. You're either 196 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: with Israel or you're with the terrorists. You're either supporting 197 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: Israel's right to destroy this group that did these horrible things, 198 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: or you're not. You're in favor of that group surviving 199 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: and coming back and doing it again in the future. 200 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: And this is not something this is not a needle 201 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: he can thread. But he is trying to balance that 202 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: internally because he's I imagine, getting a tremendous amount of 203 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: pressure from elements of his own staff, I would imagine, 204 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: And so because they're core of the Democratic Party but 205 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: off the donor base and the political advisors who are 206 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: basically saying if we lose Michigan, we're finished. If we lose, 207 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: and then it's so we're finished, and and that these 208 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: voters stay home across the country, young people and so 209 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: forth were finished. So in an election that's supposed to 210 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: be close, I imagine they're very worried about this element of 211 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: their days that not coming out to vote, and they're 212 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: trying to them and they're doing damage to the country. 213 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: As a We're speaking to center Mark or Rubio of 214 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Florida and to that end of center Ruby, I know 215 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: you're a University of Miami guy from law school, right, 216 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: so you're you Miami Florida Gator. 217 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: Let's I mean, we got to get that right. That's 218 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: not what I went to undergrad. 219 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say next, I mean you and my 220 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: wife are both Florida Gators. And she corrected me. Recently, 221 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: she just said UF. I think I said you of F. 222 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: She said, no, it's just UF. So I'm learning the 223 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Gator ways. But about all these schools and the protests 224 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: and that's going on, there have been some states where 225 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: this has been with you know, with very large universities, 226 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: very very popular university systems, where this has been very 227 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: absent uh, you know, there have been little bits of 228 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: it here and there, and it gets shut down very quickly. 229 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: How do you feel as a as a uf alum 230 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: and why has it been different? Is it really just 231 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: your colleague former colleague in the Senate sass as the 232 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: Chancellor has just said, we're not doing that nonsense here. 233 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: What's been the difference? 234 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 2: I think there's no doubt that's been key to it. 235 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: It's you know, if you allow groups to say it's 236 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: set up camp and put up tents and take over buildings, 237 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: word gets out and people are going to gravitate, They're 238 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: going to go there. They'll say this is the place 239 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: we need to go because they're allowing them to stay. 240 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: And then that encampment builds, and then these professional agitators 241 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: come in and guide them towards what's the next step. 242 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: They hand out guide This is how you get arrested, 243 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: This is how we resist, this is how we break 244 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: into buildings. These are you're right, this is what you 245 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: need to do. This is how to cover your face, 246 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: and no, we're going to take a picture of you 247 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: and then not hire you in the future when you 248 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: try to get a job. I do think that if 249 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: you've seen some of the commonality. Some of the biggest 250 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: issues here have been in New York and Los Angeles, 251 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: a little bit in Washington, DC. These are big cities 252 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: where a small group of students can become a magnet 253 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 2: to bring in these professional agitators and you know, part 254 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: of this whole anti American movement who are always looking 255 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: for a cause to latch onto, and they join and 256 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: suddenly you know, you've got these encampments going on, and 257 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: you've got straight up violence and chaos. These are not protests. 258 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: These are a riot. These are unlawful demonstrations, disruptive and harmful. 259 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: And even if every and I always laughing at me 260 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: and he says, wow, there's no evidence that they're outside agitators. Okay, 261 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean there is, and and there's plenty of evidence 262 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: who's printing all this stuff, making all the signs, these 263 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: fancy tenstering and all that. But even if every person 264 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: in those encampments was a student in most of these universities, 265 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: you're talking about a very small percentage of the student body, 266 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: very very small percentage of the student body that's participating. 267 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: But they're joined by these outside agitators and they're willing 268 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: to be violent and disruptive and illegal and what they do, 269 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: and they've got and caused tremendous harm to these institutions. 270 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: For the life of me, I don't know why anybody 271 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: who want to go to one of these schools right. 272 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: Now, Senator Mark Ruvio, Florida Senator, as a fellow Floridian, 273 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. 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First of all, you have Bernie Sanders. 305 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is a Jewish American, as you know, member 306 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: of the Senate, and he he is representative of a 307 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: lot of left wing Jews in America who are very 308 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: critical of Israel. This is what I keep bringing this 309 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: up whenever there's talk of oh, there'll be a huge 310 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: revolt in the Jewish vote against Joe Biden because of 311 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: what we have seen happen with his double cross of 312 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Israel at a key moment. I don't think it's going 313 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: to be that substantial because on these protests. Believe it 314 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: or not, there are many Jewish students who are part 315 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: of the anti Israel protests. There are Jewish professors. The 316 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: most anti Israel professor I ever studied within college, and 317 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: I studied with a bunch. I could have done a 318 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: double major in Middle Eastern studies if I just wanted 319 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: to fill out the paperwork was Jewish. So, believe it 320 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: or not, this is a and I know you do 321 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,359 Speaker 1: believe it, but this is a very especially in academia 322 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: you have they're Jews, they tend to be atheists, very 323 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: left wing. They're often in academia media, and they're very 324 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: critical of Israel. So it's not this uniform support that 325 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: many people believe who haven't lived in communities like New 326 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: York and Los Angeles and others where there's a large 327 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Jewish population and some of them are really opposed to 328 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Israel and hate net and Yahoo and all this stuff. 329 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: So here's Bernie Sanders who's saying Israel should not get 330 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: another nickel in US military aid. Play it. 331 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: The reality is is I think any objective observing those 332 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: Israel has broken international law, it has broken American law, 333 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: and in my view, Israel should not be receiving another 334 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: nickel in US military aid. The Foreign Assistance Act is 335 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: very very clear sixty two to one the provision any entity, 336 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: any state, any country that blocks US humanitarian aid is 337 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: in violation of law and should not continue to receive 338 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: military aid from the United States. That is precisely it 339 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 4: Israel has done. 340 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: I notice also that he's saying Israel is violated international law. 341 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: This standard that Israel's held to in combat operations is 342 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: an impossible one, which is any civilian death whatsoever from 343 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: a military operation is a war crime. Is the way 344 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: that it is treated. Look, I was in Afghanistan. There 345 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: were times where we hit the wrong stuff and we 346 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: didn't mean to. And everyone knows about this. There are 347 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: reports on this, news reports on it. 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I 391 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: don't know any Jew personally that has this hatred for 392 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Israel like Bernie. All his views are extreme, you know, 393 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: your Norm. That's a very important part of this discussion. 394 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: I think, how big is this contingent that I'm talking about? 395 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: You know, you have sixty percent of American Jews tend 396 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: to vote Democrats, sixty to sixty five. Clearly sixty to 397 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: sixty five percent don't oppose Israel or so what is 398 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: really the number? And the best that I could find 399 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: for you is to give a sense of the number. 400 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: Now in academia, it's much higher, I'll tell you, because 401 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: they one of the ways to advance yourself on campus 402 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: is to cater to this anti white and therefore anti Israel, 403 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: anti Jewish, DEEI, anti colonial view of history. Right, so 404 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: on campus it's more prominent. But back in twenty twenty one, 405 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: Pew Research did a poll here and I think it 406 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: said something like twenty two percent. Are about about twenty 407 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: percent think that you know, Israel is either not important 408 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: to them, or we spend too much time on it. 409 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: So it's about one in five eighty percent of American 410 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Jews say Israel is something that they're emotionally attached to, 411 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: it is important to them. But it's again, so it's 412 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: really like I think you said five percent here. You're 413 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: right that it's small, but it's about twenty percent. It's 414 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: twenty percent that are not into is support, that do 415 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: not support Israel. Basically, that's the number or view US 416 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: support of Israel as problematic, et cetera. Now I would 417 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: I would argue that that twenty percent is way overrepresented 418 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: in academia specifically and on TV. I mean, I used 419 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: to gosh, can't remember the guy's name. He has like 420 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: a very high voice, like he's always he was always 421 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: up here. I'm trying to Binert. I think his name 422 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: is Byinert. And he would call it television and he 423 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: would just say like, well that's a Yahu's policies or 424 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: what's really destroying it? And he had this very and 425 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: he was always this guy's Jewish. He's very anti Israel 426 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: all the time. I debated him once or twice on 427 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: terrorists and stuff at CNN, and I was like this 428 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: is interesting. The Irish Catholic from Manhattan is like Israel 429 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: our friend and ally, and you know they're on the 430 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: right side of this fight for civilization. And the Jewish guy, 431 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I think he might be from New York 432 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: to Actually I don't, I don't remember. But the Jewish 433 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: guy Binert, I think's Peter Binert. He was very critical 434 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: of Israel, you know. So I'm just saying this is 435 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: what you'll get there. There are others too, I mean, 436 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: Glenn Greenwald is very critical of Israel. You know that 437 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: there are others. I would say Glenn is as consistent 438 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: with how he views these things. At least he doesn't change, 439 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: so you can give him points for consistency. But he's 440 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: very very critical of his Israel and Israeli policy and 441 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: the settlements and all that. So yeah, and we got 442 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of guy are we good to try calls? Now, guys, 443 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna give it a whirl with the telephone calls. 444 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully the whole system doesn't crash. And I'm not talking 445 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: to myself in a dark room, but that wouldn't be 446 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: something I couldn't handle, because you know, live video things happen. 447 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: Rick in Virginia wants to weigh in on the Trump VP. 448 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: What's up, Rick, Hey, buck, I just wanted to say 449 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 5: that Trump is not going to pick a sitting senator 450 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 5: to be his VAT because you can't risk what may 451 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: be a very thin Senate majority when he's trying to 452 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: get all his nominations through early. So it's either going 453 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: to be Pompeo or it'll be DeSantis and Trump will 454 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 5: register to vote in New Jersey. 455 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Interesting. Thank you for calling in, Rick. I think that 456 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: that depends on the state. I think there are some 457 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: states where he could have a senator where the governor 458 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: would just be able to repoint a point a replacement. 459 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: And that may even be a preferable situation, depending on 460 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, the age of the senator, and you have 461 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: to look at the specific cases. It's certainly not going 462 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: to happen in a place like Wisconsin, like we don't 463 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: talk about to Rick's point, we don't talk about Ron 464 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: john Senator Ron Johjohnson, who we like a lot here 465 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: on the program about him as a VP, because you 466 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: have a Democrat governor in that state. Now, I know 467 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: some states it's I think they know they might hold 468 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: they have different rules for how they do this, I believe, 469 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: but you couldn't risk it there for sure. You couldn't 470 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: have a person who was a an interim senator effectively 471 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: appointed by a Democrat governor, So that would be an issue. 472 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: Another thing Senator Ran Paul in Kentucky. Same thing it is. 473 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: I was just in Kentucky. I had a great time there. 474 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: I loved the Kentucky Derby, loved hanging out with Well Clay, 475 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: my wife and our friends and our boss and everybody. 476 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: How Kentucky has a Democrat governor is just still I'm 477 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: just I just can't let that go. What this Kentucky? 478 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: You have a Democrat governor Kentucky? What are you doing? 479 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 6: Oh? 480 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 5: People? 481 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: I like Baser Okay, well you know, I hope you 482 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: liked all the double masking he made everyone do. It's 483 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: crazy to me. Uh, Larry in North Dakota. Ah, here 484 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: we go. We got a Burgham caller. What's up, Larry 485 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: in North Dakota? 486 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: How are you buck? 487 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: It's life is good out here, the sun is shining nice. 488 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: I just want to point I want to point out 489 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: that I realized its fascination. I think he referred to 490 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: him as Dougie b out here referred to him many 491 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: of us as King Burgham, And honestly, it has to 492 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: do obviously, he's got a lot of money. I mean, 493 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: and he used to have a company called Great Plaine Software. 494 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: I think the bulk of his money came out of 495 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: the cell of that to Microsoft Bill Gates. So there's 496 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: a really tight connection there, and it's kind of put 497 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: a sour taste in a lot of conservative mouth out 498 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: here in North Dakota with that, with that Bill Gates connection, 499 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: But I think that things that a couple of things 500 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: that are important to point out. With some money that 501 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: he has, he has done a lot of influencing with 502 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 3: as far as our Legislative Assembly in our state and 503 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: with that the policies that go with it. I happen 504 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 3: to be running as for a state super House seat 505 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: and I'm. 506 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: Seeing the donations that have come through through that. 507 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: So there's he's uh, he's played. 508 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: Is he a conservative? I mean, let's let's get down 509 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: to brass tax here, Larry. Is he a conservative? 510 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that he is a moderate. 511 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I think he's a moderate, okay. 512 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: And the reason I say that, I look at the 513 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: way he handled policies regarding COVID. You've mentioned masking here 514 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: shortly a short time ago. His mask requirements were he 515 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: wasn't asking a double mask, but the rules are that. 516 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: When it turned from a recommendation of requirements, it was 517 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 3: this nonsense. You sit down, you can take it off. 518 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: If you stand up, you got to put it on. 519 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: You've got to be six feet apart all that nonsense. 520 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 3: And the other thing that really upset a lot of 521 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: own businesses out here, Buck is the fact that they 522 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: came up with a list of essential businesses and frankly, 523 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: a lot of these didn't make much sense. I mean 524 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: a lot of people were home unemployed because of this, 525 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: and it left some hardships to get. 526 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was horrid. I mean COVID was COVID was 527 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: a trial run of real tyranny in this country. And 528 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: a lot of politicians, I'd say almost all politicians were cowards, 529 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: and the ones who were in office, and that includes 530 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: most Republicans too. There were some who stood firm, but 531 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: very few. Interesting. Thank you so much Larry for that 532 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: background on Burghram. You know, now here's what people can say. 533 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: They can tell me, well, Burgham, you know he's not 534 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: going to be president, so he'll have not that big 535 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: of a of a role in the legislative agenda that 536 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: Trump would want to pursue, assuming he has a majority 537 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: in the House in the Senate. But I also would say, look, 538 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: the vice president is really there. We have to remind 539 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: ourselves of this. The vice president does not exist to 540 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: help the president win election. Really, the vice president is 541 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: there in case of So you have to be able 542 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: to answer the question this way. Do you feel good 543 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: as a conservative if God forbid, during a Trump presidency, 544 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Doug Bergham had to take over, do you feel good 545 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: about that? If the answer is no, well then we 546 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: got a problem. Right, This is what I was talking 547 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: about before. If the answer is I think it'd be 548 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: pretty good, I'm all right, well, then that's but we 549 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: definitely don't want a oh my gosh, the Democrats have 550 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: basically gotten a stealth presidency out of this, Like that's 551 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: what we're trying to avoid, or you know, we don't 552 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: want some sociopath as VP who the media is just 553 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: constantly you know, it turns into it and it turns 554 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: into a president I mean, and then the media is 555 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: just able to completely out maneuver and outplay them in politics. Right, 556 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: So there is some important points here to take look at, 557 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: and we'll take more of your costs because only this hour, 558 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: I think we've been able to get through a little 559 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: bit more on this. And I guess I don't know 560 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: if I I don't know, if I have time to 561 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: get into the the Jerry Seinfeld stuff, maybe we'll get 562 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: in a little bit of the Jerry Seinfeld speech here 563 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: he gave a graduation speech. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk a 564 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: little Jerry Seinfeld stuff. You know, I gotta say, I 565 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: think Seinfeld does a nice job. You know, which is 566 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: not surprising is the guy made hundreds of millions of 567 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: dollars as a comedian, so he's clearly he's clearly got 568 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: some ability. But I think he did a nice job 569 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: at the speech too, even though there are a bunch 570 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: of pro Hamas maniacs who did a little walk out 571 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: and the media focuses on that. Of course, we'll get 572 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: into that here coming up the Jerry Seinfeld speech. 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Clay will be back tomorrow and that'll be exciting, 610 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: so looking forward to having it back in the mix. 611 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: He's on vacation, having great time in the mountains. I think, 612 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: is it the Smoky Mountains, mountains of Tennessee. I get 613 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: my mountain ranges in that part of the world. Sometimes 614 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: a little confused, just to be honest with you, But yes, 615 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: he's having a great time and we will get some 616 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: more of your vip emails tomorrow. More of the Trump 617 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: trial stuff, although I don't think this Michael Cohen testimony 618 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: is doing anything other than giving journalists who hate Trump 619 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity to revisit the Stormy Daniel's allegations, which there's 620 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: really nothing new in any of this, and it's all 621 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: just it's an absurdity and it's it's a disgrace the 622 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: whole thing. I am perhaps a graduation grinch because I 623 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: don't think that graduations are usually much fun. My graduations, 624 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: all of them were very boring and forgettable, and I 625 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: wish that I had had the option, certainly for college. 626 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: High school, I will admit, is different high school graduation. 627 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 1: You've been in school for four years, you know, the people, 628 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, they're more more formative role in 629 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: your life. So I'm really it's really more college graduations 630 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: that I find are just and you gotta like show 631 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: up to an eighty thousand person stadium and there's all 632 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: these big speakers and you gotta wait in line forever 633 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: and all, you know, depending on where you go, the 634 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: whole thing can be kind of a mess. 635 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: Hot. 636 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: You know, those gowns they're made out of, I don't 637 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: know what the fabric is but it's uh, is it tensil? 638 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's some kind of like a like poly 639 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: blend anyway, not doesn't breathe. Well, this is the thing. 640 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: It's not very comfortable where those those things they put 641 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: on there. I remember my year was a big thing. 642 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: If you were going to have your diploma on on 643 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: like a parchment paper or like sheep's bladder papers, a 644 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: big series. This was the thing, like you could get it. 645 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: You could get it on like some kind of innards 646 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: of a sheep, or you could get it on paper. 647 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: And they were people were all upset about the fact 648 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: that there was even a sheep's bladder option or something. 649 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it was the bladder skin. Maybe it 650 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: was the skin of the sheep, as that makes sense. 651 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: It was some part of a sheep that you could 652 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: get the you could get the degree on. And of 653 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: course I went for the you know, the sheep option back. 654 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: So it was fine. I mean, look at Mutton, you 655 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: use it all, you get the wool. It's I don't know, 656 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that big of a deal. 657 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: But back to commencements, graduations, whatever you want to call them. 658 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: We certainly didn't have world famous comedian Jerry Seinfeld. Mine, 659 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: that would have been helpful. He spoke at Duke and 660 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to focus on the fact 661 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: that there was a walk out steinfilm. We're gonna walk 662 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: in on Seinfeld because remember what I've said, all along 663 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: the campus left and the Democrat communists think that Israel 664 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: is white and you know, that Jewish and white, and 665 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: that Jerry, that everyone Israel is effectively like Jerry Seinfeld, 666 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: and that he is very you know, Caucasian in appearance 667 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: and very privileged and all this stuff. It's not true. 668 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: It's actually not the reality of Israel at all. But 669 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: that's they don't care because they're how could they care, 670 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: They don't know, They're ignorant, they're not smart. But Seinfeld 671 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: spoke about privilege specifically, and I thought this was I 672 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: thought Jerry did a nice job at the speech, which 673 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: is unsurprising, and so you should hear some of his 674 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: graduation wisdom. This is cut twenty nine. 675 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 6: Privilege is a word that has taken quite a beating lately. 676 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 6: Privilege today seems to be the worst thing you can have. 677 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 6: I would like to take a moment to defend it. 678 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 6: Use your privilege. I grew up a Jewish boy from 679 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 6: New York. That is a privilege. If you want to 680 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 6: be a comedian, you went to Duke, that is an 681 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 6: unbelievable privilege. I know, have an honorary doctorate, a Humane 682 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 6: letters degree from Duke University. And if I can figure 683 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 6: out a way to use that, I will. I haven't 684 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 6: figured anything out yet. I think it's pretty much as 685 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 6: useful in real life as this outfit I'm wearing. But 686 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 6: so what I'll take it. My point is we're embarrassed 687 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 6: about things we should be proud of, and proud of 688 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 6: things we should be embarrassed about. 689 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: Very well said. And you know what, if you're talking 690 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: about Jerry Seinfeld, one of the most successful and I 691 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: think you could argue most influential comedians of our era, 692 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: certainly of his generation. Here he is on It's true 693 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: for everybody, you gotta be able to It's why we 694 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: try to laugh as much as we can on the show, 695 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: and then we talk about a lot of serious stuff, 696 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: but we really want to have fun too. And by 697 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: have fun, I mean understand that you just got to 698 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: be able to laugh at things. Play thirty. 699 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 6: What I need to tell you as a comedian to 700 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 6: not lose your sense of humor. You can have no 701 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 6: idea at this point in your life how much you 702 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 6: are going to need it to get through. Not enough 703 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 6: of life makes sense for you to be able to 704 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 6: survive it without humor. I bet the world because of 705 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 6: you will be a much better place, but it will 706 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 6: still not make a whole hell of a lot of sense. 707 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 6: It'll be a better, different, but still pretty insane mess. 708 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 6: And it is worth the sacrifice of an occasional discomfort 709 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 6: to have some laughs. Don't lose that, even if it's 710 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 6: at the cost of occasional hard feelings. It's okay, you 711 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 6: gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end 712 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 6: of your life you will not wish you did less 713 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 6: of humor is the most powerful, most survival essential quality 714 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 6: you will ever have or need to navigate through the 715 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 6: human experience. 716 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: Humor is certainly very important. It's important we all keep 717 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: it so. I would like to make jokes about ourselves 718 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: and all the craziness out there here on the show 719 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: play back tomorrow. We'll see you then.