Speaker 1: What's that at the spooky Hey, Judy, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute, said
Speaker 1: nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to
Speaker 1: Ghosted by ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to
Speaker 1: people that I like about the paranormal. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Doug Benson is on the show. One of my favorite comedians. Truly,
Speaker 1: he kills me. We'll get to that in a moment,
Speaker 1: but before that, Oh my god, I got an email
Speaker 1: from Rachel. Rachel says Rosie, gorgeous, goooul you Rachel. I
Speaker 1: grew up in the Bay Area and was so excited
Speaker 1: to hear you talk about the Haunted Toys r US.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. If you don't know what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: go back listen to the recent episode with rosebud Baker
Speaker 1: where we talk about the Haunted Toys r US that
Speaker 1: has turned into an RAI. Okay, back to Rachel. In
Speaker 1: the mid nineties, when I was a small creepy child,
Speaker 1: my mom and I tried to visit all the places
Speaker 1: listed in the Haunted Houses of California book that I
Speaker 1: got at the Winchester Mystery House gift shop. Oh my God,
Speaker 1: if you've never been, where is that San Jose up
Speaker 1: north in California? Best gift shop ever? And in that
Speaker 1: book was the Sunny Veil Toys r Us. I remember
Speaker 1: asking the cashier at Toys r Us if she thought
Speaker 1: that the store was haunted, and she turned pale. She
Speaker 1: dropped her voice and asked us seriously if we were
Speaker 1: from the X Files. I was eight years old and
Speaker 1: not a fictional FBI agent. For the record, Eventually we
Speaker 1: found a janitor at the toys arrest who was willing
Speaker 1: to talk or looking for an excuse to stop mopping.
Speaker 1: He solemnly nodded his head and gestured down another aisle.
Speaker 1: The janitor said, he's there. Now. When you walk through,
Speaker 1: every hair on the back of your arms will stand straight.
Speaker 1: But if I leave him alone and he leaves me alone,
Speaker 1: that's that. Of course, I go back down that aisle,
Speaker 1: and sure enough, there's a cold spot, and every hair
Speaker 1: on the back of my arm stand straight up. It's
Speaker 1: proven haunted. Clink the ghost gabbl ras. Oh, I got
Speaker 1: it right here. You're great and a delight. My wife
Speaker 1: and I were just watching the Netflix documentary Outstanding. Oh
Speaker 1: I'm in that and you saw me. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: so nice in here. Oh, I can't wait to see you.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna come to the Twin Cities anytime soon? Hey,
Speaker 1: funny you say that, Rachel. I actually am. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in Minneapolis in May. All those dates are on
Speaker 1: my Instagram. I am going to so many cities, not
Speaker 1: talking about ghosts, though I bet ghosts will probably come up,
Speaker 1: but you know, basically just talking about silly gay stuff.
Speaker 1: But Alice, you come on down too. It's for gay
Speaker 1: people and allies and it's just silly, not for children.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm doing all these cities in May, July,
Speaker 1: and August. Look at the dates on my Instagram at
Speaker 1: roz Hernandez. Oh. Another place that you can look is
Speaker 1: a new little web page I've started called Roshernandez tour
Speaker 1: dot Com. Okay, here we go, Doug Benson. Time on
Speaker 1: with the show, Doug Benson.
Speaker 2: Yes, hi present.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with your ghost where.
Speaker 2: It's you know something I didn't have to like pull
Speaker 2: this out of the back of the closet to come
Speaker 2: beyond ghosted. I really wear this stuff with some frequency.
Speaker 2: I also have a hoodie sweater that's got the ghost
Speaker 2: A nice white ghost right in the center, and I
Speaker 2: almost wore that, and I would have been too warm.
Speaker 1: What's the company Ghostly Goods. Ghostly Goods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are a fledgling cannabis company in Florida
Speaker 2: where they won't legalize it. So in the meantime, he's
Speaker 2: making cool apparel for his company that can't really move
Speaker 2: forward until Florida gets their act together.
Speaker 1: You don't smoke weed, dude.
Speaker 2: I do all kinds of I bibe it in many ways,
Speaker 2: but yes, smoking is one of them, but.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not legal in Florida. So how do
Speaker 1: you how do people so people? That means people don't
Speaker 1: do it in Florida.
Speaker 2: No, they just do it anyway. It's crazy, Like it's
Speaker 2: wild the places that you think about, Like I was
Speaker 2: just reading today about how Pennsylvania won't legalize but all
Speaker 2: the states around them have so like if you're living
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, you just go to New Jersey to get
Speaker 2: your weed and then come back.
Speaker 1: And so old school at this point. Yeah, living in
Speaker 1: LA it's like people are just smoking weed everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know in both markets seem to be working.
Speaker 2: You know, like there's stores that are seem to be
Speaker 2: making money, but people still have their other ways to
Speaker 2: get it, you know, because the stores are expensive, right right,
Speaker 2: very pricey.
Speaker 1: You kind of look like you're in like a paranormal
Speaker 1: investigation group when you first showed up. That's what I loved.
Speaker 2: I should have been I should have some sort of
Speaker 2: like device, some sort of detecting device.
Speaker 1: Because for anyone not watching you're you have a hat
Speaker 1: with a ghost on and a jacket with a ghost It.
Speaker 2: Do look like I work for like a ghost exterminator company.
Speaker 1: Have you ever experienced a ghost?
Speaker 2: I have not, to the best of my recollection.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in it?
Speaker 2: It may have happened to me where I was blackout
Speaker 2: drunk one time or two, but I do believe in
Speaker 2: go because, first of all, there's no reason to not
Speaker 2: believe in ghosts that I can think of, because some
Speaker 2: people have seen them, and everything around us to me
Speaker 2: is a strange miracle that like, why are there? Why
Speaker 2: are there? People say, how could there be ghosts? They say,
Speaker 2: how can there be people? How'd that happen?
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean.
Speaker 2: Then there should also potentially be ghosts, but I've never
Speaker 2: personally experienced it. And whenever you know this doesn't happen
Speaker 2: a lot. But whatever. I'm somewhere there where somebody says,
Speaker 2: don't stay at that hotel it's haunted, don't go in
Speaker 2: that bar, it's haunted. Whenever people call things haunted, I
Speaker 2: just that's where you know, I'm gonna go check it out.
Speaker 2: But you know, oftentimes like during business hours, so it's
Speaker 2: like by the light of day. So what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: What's a what's the place you've been that's you know,
Speaker 1: like the Driscoll Hotel in Austin.
Speaker 2: They won't stop about how haunted that thing is, you know,
Speaker 2: all the people that like that sort of thing, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, and I've been into the bar there. I
Speaker 2: haven't I haven't stayed in a room there. But every
Speaker 2: time I go to south By Southwest, somebody that's staying
Speaker 2: in that hotel will be like, yeah, there was a
Speaker 2: weird there's weird bumping, right, you know, I heard noises, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you've stayed at hotels where you don't
Speaker 2: hear noises. I know.
Speaker 1: That that is when I need to check out. Thanks
Speaker 1: for reminding me of that, because I'm really into going
Speaker 1: to hotels that are haunted. I don't like to sleep
Speaker 1: at them. If you tell me it's haunted, there's no
Speaker 1: way amual sleep. But I like to go poke my
Speaker 1: head around. Sure, I get a little nosy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're probably an older hotel, so you don't
Speaker 2: have to have a key to go up in the
Speaker 2: elevator and stuff, so you could just go walk the halls.
Speaker 1: So okay, what about I want to know your thoughts
Speaker 1: about other things. Okay, like UFOs.
Speaker 2: Again, never experienced one, but certainly not against the idea.
Speaker 2: Not I'm not scarrett of aliens because in my experience,
Speaker 2: they've had plenty of time to really make a show
Speaker 2: of it, like to really do something big and bad, right,
Speaker 2: and it hasn't happened, So I can't put too much
Speaker 2: concern into it.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's the thing. At this point, it's like
Speaker 1: I feel like so much crazy shit happens. That is
Speaker 1: so I mean, I never would have thought that the
Speaker 1: world would have closed down because of a disease the
Speaker 1: way it did with COVID, Like who knows what will
Speaker 1: ever happen. So if a UFO came down, I feel
Speaker 1: like we'd all be like if you would have done
Speaker 1: this twenty years ago, we would have really given you
Speaker 1: the reaction you want. But right now we're just like, okay, great, yeah.
Speaker 2: Now there's other TV programs we'd rather watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Are you a psychedelic person? Interesting?
Speaker 2: Never never mess with any I'm quite other than alcohol
Speaker 2: and uh weed, I'm pretty straight, you know straight? You know, No,
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't even tried most of the drugs.
Speaker 2: And I only like one time I got to find
Speaker 2: out how momentarily awesome morphine can be because I went,
Speaker 2: you know, because it was in the hospital with a
Speaker 2: kidney stone, and they gave me.
Speaker 1: Oh uh.
Speaker 2: That was pretty I mean, I'm not hooked on it
Speaker 2: or anything, but I could see the appeal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I got a kidney stone. But we talk
Speaker 1: often on this show about psychedelics, people doing psychedelics and they,
Speaker 1: you know, the things that they report seeing. Is that
Speaker 1: just drugs or is there something to it a little supernatural?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I was
Speaker 2: thinking that between ghosts and UFOs when somebody said, if
Speaker 2: someone said to me I saw a ghost, I just
Speaker 2: pretty much believe that they saw a ghost. But with
Speaker 2: a UFO, you immediately go, are you sure it wasn't
Speaker 2: a frisbee or a or you know, or just a
Speaker 2: regular plane or helicopter or you know, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. There's so many plausible explanations for when people
Speaker 2: think they see a UFO, right, but when they see it,
Speaker 2: when they say they saw a ghosts is there a
Speaker 2: strong breeze, like you know what.
Speaker 1: The very pale person that's not a ghost?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a breeze in and of itself could be
Speaker 2: seem like a ghost if it like.
Speaker 1: That's true, or just like knocking or you know, sounds
Speaker 1: that you hear. They can all be explained away. But
Speaker 1: like my thing with UFOs is, I don't know anything
Speaker 1: that's up in the sky is so to me. I
Speaker 1: guess it's like I don't know what all that. I
Speaker 1: guess somebody can explain to you what every little drone
Speaker 1: and satellite. I don't know all that shit is. Listen.
Speaker 1: I went on this UFO tour a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago in Sedona. I've talked about this before, but as
Speaker 1: time has gone on, I've talked to more people about
Speaker 1: this tour and people are like, those aren't UFOs, Like
Speaker 1: those are some kind of elon musk thing up there.
Speaker 1: Or like I don't know something something that's not a UFO.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just paid this woman to show me
Speaker 1: that stuff because we like went up we had like
Speaker 1: these binoculars that see at nighttime, and I was very
Speaker 1: convinced that those are UFOs. But because I'm a dumb
Speaker 1: dumb I don't know anything else.
Speaker 2: She really is just scamming everybody, or do you think
Speaker 2: she believes it and she's just the silly pants.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing that I always come back to with
Speaker 1: this woman, so I go on this tour. I tell her, like,
Speaker 1: I have this podcast we talk about aliens, and I
Speaker 1: would love to have you on the show. This is
Speaker 1: after she had already told me that she's been abducted
Speaker 1: multiple times, she's been up there, they know her. She
Speaker 1: was very like she's known up there, okay, according to her,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I gotta have this lady on my podcast.
Speaker 1: She gave me her card, she gave me her number,
Speaker 1: she gave me her email. I tried multiple times. I
Speaker 1: think she finally went up there and she's never I
Speaker 1: think she's up there exactly where she wants to be.
Speaker 1: Because you know what else, the tour doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1: Last time I was there, I was trying to find
Speaker 1: the tour. I couldn't find it. So she's up there.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, she.
Speaker 2: Got that big ride, but she.
Speaker 1: I think that was her honestly, her goal the whole time,
Speaker 1: and it worked out. So I'm actually really happy for her.
Speaker 1: You know, since we were talking about like how you
Speaker 1: can explain away different things, I want to tell you
Speaker 1: about this famous story. And this is an old story
Speaker 1: from England and so you no could just be hearsay,
Speaker 1: but apparently there are newspaper articles about it. It's the
Speaker 1: story of scratching Fanny of Cocklane.
Speaker 2: I'll just run with some of the weirdest names over there.
Speaker 1: So this story takes place on cock Lane, which is
Speaker 1: a narrow street that dates back to the twelve hundreds.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And oh, by the way, I
Speaker 1: got all this information from Historic London Tours dot com. Okay,
Speaker 1: So in seventeen fifty nine there was a lone shark
Speaker 1: named William Kent that moves into an apartment on Cocklane
Speaker 1: with a woman named Fanny Lines. L Yes, Fanny Lines.
Speaker 1: She's the sister of William Kent's former wife. I don't
Speaker 1: know what her name was, and why is she out
Speaker 1: of the picture. Well, she died during childbirth, but so
Speaker 1: can in law prevented him from marrying her sister. But
Speaker 1: the two of them were in love. There was this
Speaker 1: man named Richard Parsons who offered his lodging rooms on
Speaker 1: Coch Lane to the couple, and so they move in
Speaker 1: and strange sounds and ghost sightings had already been reported
Speaker 1: before they even got there. And Kent and Fanny they
Speaker 1: did not stick around because Fanny got pregnant. They're like,
Speaker 1: we can't have a child here. It's haunted. So they
Speaker 1: move off, and then a couple of weeks later, Fanny
Speaker 1: got smallpox and she died.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Also the guy that rented the house to them, this
Speaker 1: Parsons guy, he was he had debt that he needed
Speaker 1: to pay to the man Kent, and he ended up
Speaker 1: getting sued a whole thing whatever. Okay, So anyway to
Speaker 1: the ghost stuff. So Fannylines is now dead. The apartment
Speaker 1: where they were living all of a sudden starts being
Speaker 1: haunted and they think it's Fanny. Fanny is scratching like crazy.
Speaker 1: They're hearing scratching noises from Fanny Lines. They did seances.
Speaker 1: They had local ministers. The daughter of the man who
Speaker 1: lived there. She was eleven years old and she was
Speaker 1: like the center of all this, and they would do
Speaker 1: this thing where they'd say knock once for yes, twice
Speaker 1: for no, and from that they were able to conclude
Speaker 1: that it was indeed Fanny. She says that she was
Speaker 1: poisoned by the man Kent. So it says the earlier
Speaker 1: scratchings and ghost sightings were determined to be Fanny's sister.
Speaker 1: So when Fanny was still alive, Fanny, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: her Fanny Senior, Big Fanny. So big Fanny, the original
Speaker 1: sister was haunting because she was trying to warn Fanny,
Speaker 1: just so you know that man's going to poison you. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is all coming from these knock once for yes.
Speaker 1: But at this time in history people were taking that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff seriously. So this became a big news story.
Speaker 1: And you know, I have a lot of respect for
Speaker 1: this man, the man that ran the place. He was
Speaker 1: in debt. He just got sued. He decided he's going
Speaker 1: to start charging people to come to come listen to
Speaker 1: Fanny scratching. So all kinds of people were coming, even
Speaker 1: the Duke of York himself showed up to hear scratching Fanny.
Speaker 1: Of course, a lot of people are skeptical of this,
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. Basically turns out it was the
Speaker 1: little girl. She was just scratching a piece of wood,
Speaker 1: so there was no ghosts.
Speaker 2: Sounds like, but she'd have to do it like, especially
Speaker 2: once the tourists started coming through.
Speaker 1: Yes places, everyone she was scratching away and knocking on
Speaker 1: a block of wood that she had under her sheets
Speaker 1: in her bed, and god, people were dumb back then was.
Speaker 2: The girl behind the whole thing? Was her idea?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: It was highly speculated it was her dad, because her
Speaker 1: dad was got sued by the man Kent okay, the
Speaker 1: man who was married to Fanny and Fanny senior. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So Kent was a loan shark, gave some money to
Speaker 1: this man and his eleven year old daughter. Then he
Speaker 1: didn't pay the money back, got suits. Now he's like
Speaker 1: really in debt. So his idea for how to make
Speaker 1: money back is to say that the loan shark poisoned
Speaker 1: his wife and now she's scratching my daughter's bed and
Speaker 1: charge people to come see it.
Speaker 2: In a different time, that guy could have been like
Speaker 2: a filmmaker or a producer.
Speaker 1: Oh, nowadays, this would be a TikTok.
Speaker 2: Put all that together to just make it happen. Bring
Speaker 2: a child into it.
Speaker 1: This would be a TikTok nowadays. Like somebody being like,
Speaker 1: there's a scratch in my house and it won't go away,
Speaker 1: and then like Part seventeen as them being like, and
Speaker 1: now I'm finding out that it's the wife who was poisoned, Like,
Speaker 1: please this this this scam has been going on for years.
Speaker 1: So basically he was found guilty of making this whole
Speaker 1: thing up. They let the They let the eleven year
Speaker 1: old girl free because they said she was under the
Speaker 1: influence of her father. And he was found guilty of conspiracy.
Speaker 1: Even his wife was included in this and three other
Speaker 1: people and he was punished three days in the pillory
Speaker 1: and then two years in prison.
Speaker 2: What oh okay for scratching. I thought the pillary was
Speaker 2: going to be the worst part.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it got worse, But I don't the pillary.
Speaker 2: So everybody in town could see the person that like
Speaker 2: we've kept you know, they're going to jail, so they
Speaker 2: have to suffer for a few days in front of everybody.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, is that how that works?
Speaker 1: It says pillary is a wooden or metal framework that's
Speaker 1: used to publicly humiliate. Oh, it's that thing where you
Speaker 1: put your arms through and your head through.
Speaker 2: That's like fun to do when you're like visiting a western.
Speaker 1: And you take a photo. Yeah, but they fully had
Speaker 1: him in there, and I'm sure there were people walking
Speaker 1: by going I'll give you something to scratch. Hey, scratch
Speaker 1: my fanny.
Speaker 2: I think you could spin on him and stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds fun. We need to bring that back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. So there's mud in your eye.
Speaker 1: But I just think that that feels extreme.
Speaker 2: It does. Like when you said three days of that.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, if you can get through
Speaker 2: those three days alive, then I guess it's over. But
Speaker 2: then then then prison.
Speaker 1: Then you have to go to prison for conspiracy. But
Speaker 1: also it's like that's slam dirt. You can't say somebody
Speaker 1: poisoned his wife to death. She died of smallpox, by
Speaker 1: the way, but he's like her ghost is telling me
Speaker 1: that she's poisoned. He poisoned her. That's sketchy.
Speaker 2: It's funny that they got so much trouble for essentially,
Speaker 2: like anybody just sets up a haunted house, it says,
Speaker 2: you know, come through here, it's haunted. And when it isn't,
Speaker 2: why aren't they being arrested?
Speaker 1: You know what, that's a great idea, that's how great.
Speaker 2: Nobody's suing that wasn't really haunted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those people, that's faulty advertising.
Speaker 2: I think maybe Disney killed somebody in the haunted mansion
Speaker 2: when it was being constructed to.
Speaker 1: You know, they say there's real ghosts in there.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they be If I was a ghost, that's
Speaker 2: where I go. There's always a party going on.
Speaker 1: And that was absolutely and I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Birthday, which I don't understand that concept.
Speaker 1: You can like pop out and nobody would know the difference.
Speaker 1: And you're just like you could just be yourself, let
Speaker 1: your freak flag fly. Why not?
Speaker 2: I've never seen that ghost before, Daddy. That ghost over
Speaker 2: there is new.
Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Please, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay, Doug Benson.
Speaker 1: Here's what I do is I go to eBay dot
Speaker 1: com and I type in the words haunted doll. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a big market Okay. There's thousands of haunted
Speaker 1: dolls for sale, and they all come with little biographies.
Speaker 1: They're very differently priced. There's there's a haunted doll for anyone.
Speaker 1: I'd like you to meet Mildred, who is going for
Speaker 1: fifty three dollars and ten cents. Geehaw, can you show
Speaker 1: us this haunted doll? You got it? Ras there, she Joe.
Speaker 2: It would be such a jump scare.
Speaker 1: Whoa she is silly.
Speaker 2: I always think of like kind of maybe a little
Speaker 2: scary looking doll, but this one is she looks scared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a doll that kind of has her
Speaker 1: eyes crossed and like a poudy lower lip, and she
Speaker 1: looks like something's definitely wrong. Something is not right with
Speaker 1: this doll.
Speaker 2: I don't know what her terrible haircut.
Speaker 1: Her hair is a mess. She absolutely got that supercuts
Speaker 1: by one geting free and took the free one.
Speaker 2: I think that face is pretty much maybe the moment
Speaker 2: she saw that haircut, and.
Speaker 1: Then she just froze like that forever. Yeah. So here's
Speaker 1: the bio. It says meat Mildred. She's a down to
Speaker 1: earth spirit with a real relatable vibe. She's a bit
Speaker 1: frumpy and sometimes comes off as a debbie downer, but
Speaker 1: deep down she just craves genuine friendship and a place
Speaker 1: to belong. Mildred's spirit hails from a simpler time when
Speaker 1: she worked a modest job at a local store, always
Speaker 1: willing to lend a hand whenever life got her down.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Let's get to the good stuff here.
Speaker 1: Here's some of the stuff you can you'll witness if
Speaker 1: you if you buy her. Occasional soft size and gentle
Speaker 1: grumbling like she's musing about old times, Subtle movements that
Speaker 1: hint she might be looking around for someone to talk to,
Speaker 1: and a quiet, lingering aura of wistfulness that fills the
Speaker 1: room during those calm moments. She does the best in
Speaker 1: a relaxed, no fuss environment. She responds to a cozy corner,
Speaker 1: a quiet conversation, or simply sharing your day with her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much about her. This is definitely one that
Speaker 1: people listening go to ghosted by Roz on Instagram to
Speaker 1: take a look at her and her bangs. Doug, can
Speaker 1: I play you some ghost voices? Yes, it's time for
Speaker 1: EVP or ev pase have you ever heard the term EVP?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Electronic Voice Phenomena show that's SPU. This is EVP okay,
Speaker 1: So basically, it's anytime somebody captures a ghost speaking a
Speaker 1: recording of it, honestly, with your ghost uniform on today.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of thing that you seem like
Speaker 1: you would be capturing, Okay, ghost saying something. So I've
Speaker 1: got two of them for you. This first one is
Speaker 1: from a YouTube channel called m T Paranormal Life. What
Speaker 1: is it saying? I don't know where this is. It's
Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere outside. They captured this ghost speaking.
Speaker 2: If somebody figured out.
Speaker 1: The words, it's so clear you can't tell.
Speaker 2: I think, did I hear? Shut up? Is that in there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Shut up, you bitch.
Speaker 1: Shut up, bitch, you bitch. Listen. That's not a bad guy.
Speaker 1: I gotta hear it. I think you were born for
Speaker 1: this job, just for the top you want. They did
Speaker 1: not think it was shut up, bitch, you bitch? Did
Speaker 1: they think it was a There are demons? B you
Speaker 1: are awful, so awful. See I want waffles please? Or
Speaker 1: d Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Okay, it's one of those.
Speaker 1: I mean it's you think it's b you are awful,
Speaker 1: so awful.
Speaker 2: I don't know they.
Speaker 1: Believe it is.
Speaker 2: I don't hear that.
Speaker 1: They think it's a there are demons.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it again. With that in mind, I can't sell.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I hear too. Now, okay, here's one more.
Speaker 1: This one is from Paranormal Adventures. Uk h, what is
Speaker 1: it saying, Doug? I don't know where this is from either?
Speaker 1: Where are these? Okay? Here we go. It's a British castle,
Speaker 1: probably a castle. Okay, this one's different. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit more whispery.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see sounds like a seal flapping around in
Speaker 2: a grotto.
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a Oh? Look at her,
Speaker 1: that diva? Do they think it was b I'm about
Speaker 1: to be fainting. See, don't look here painting or d
Speaker 1: it's me Fanny lines.
Speaker 2: I'm back. I'm gonna go and see because it's such weird,
Speaker 2: strange sentence structure.
Speaker 1: Don't look here painting. That is what they thought. Okay,
Speaker 1: wait a sc let's listen for that now.
Speaker 2: I heard painting that time. Yeah, but there's something there's
Speaker 2: another noise going on this way.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's definitely a seal flopping
Speaker 1: around a grotto, and then there's don't look now painting.
Speaker 1: It's also happening.
Speaker 2: Here it again? Please all right?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like that movie Andre Is that what it
Speaker 1: was called? The Seal movie from the nineties. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: happening while somebody's whispering about a painting. Let's do another
Speaker 1: thing here, o quark, What about Bigfoot? What do you think?
Speaker 2: I wish I wish there was a big I wish
Speaker 2: we'd find him, learn his likes and dislikes.
Speaker 1: Well, he clearly doesn't like to be bothered.
Speaker 2: If he is. No, I'm kind of happy that. I'm
Speaker 2: happy with the idea that there's a Bigfoot who's gotten
Speaker 2: away with not being caught. That's or you've seen for
Speaker 2: a long period of time.
Speaker 1: If that's true, that's to commit to that and just
Speaker 1: give the people just enough, just a little, you know,
Speaker 1: not too much.
Speaker 2: Wow, he shaves for the summer. Who knows.
Speaker 1: That's interesting and that's a new theory.
Speaker 2: He walks, he walks abongst us. Yeah, he probably.
Speaker 1: Well apparently in here's an article from November of this
Speaker 1: past year. Uh, he was seen in South Carolina. It
Speaker 1: says here, according to a new report. This is from
Speaker 1: UH the State, which is not the company group The
Speaker 1: the State dot com is a local news source. Okay.
Speaker 1: So it says, according to a new report, the urban
Speaker 1: legend also called Sasquatch was seen on November second. Now,
Speaker 1: there was a big football game going on. It's between
Speaker 1: football USC's forty four and twenty home game win over
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. It says. The report makes no
Speaker 1: mention of Bigfoot wearing any game cocks apparel. I think
Speaker 1: that's a local joke, a little hilarious, yeah, commentary. So anyway,
Speaker 1: it says a witness that refers to himself as j
Speaker 1: M identified himself as a police officer. He reported the
Speaker 1: sighting on November six to Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, which
Speaker 1: was founded in nineteen ninety five. Okay. Now, this organization's founder,
Speaker 1: whose name is Matthew Moneymaker, he did a follow up
Speaker 1: investigation and found that the report was indeed credible.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: He's also Moneymaker is also a co host of the
Speaker 1: show Finding Bigfoot. Okay. So basically the story is that
Speaker 1: the witness says that he was deer hunting and he
Speaker 1: was sitting in a ground blind is that a hunting thing?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess like a almost.
Speaker 1: Like a where you're hiding so that you could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you're like a trench in the battlefield
Speaker 2: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. He heard a loud, deep toned
Speaker 1: grunt and a stomp at the same time. Not a grunt.
Speaker 1: I don't like grunts. He turned around and he saw
Speaker 1: an approximately seven to seven point five foot tall, brown
Speaker 1: human life shape through all of the brush. It had
Speaker 1: long brown hair, ape like face, and long arms. I'm
Speaker 1: a police officer and had no clue what to make
Speaker 1: of it, he says. At this point, as much as
Speaker 1: I didn't want to admit it, I'm convinced I saw bigfoot.
Speaker 1: That's the thing with all these stories. Anytime it's a cop,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, this person's a cop, they wouldn't lie.
Speaker 1: Something that I think they're relying on with the story
Speaker 1: is the fact that the guy's a cop, because we
Speaker 1: get that with ghost stories too. All the time. The
Speaker 1: cops came and they said they also saw the thing,
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well there cops, Like the cops
Speaker 1: never lied, like whatever. Not to get political, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so bigfoot.
Speaker 2: There sworn to, you know, be honest. When they see
Speaker 2: anything unusual, anything paranormal or Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Like definite off the clock shooting.
Speaker 2: They protect and serve, and serve. They protect us from
Speaker 2: Bigfoot and serve Bigfoot hot lunch every day. I keep
Speaker 2: if Bigfoot's not out there, then what are the police
Speaker 2: protecting us from? So they work. They're in cahoots. The
Speaker 2: police and Bigfoot are working together to keep us scared.
Speaker 1: Big Foot. There we go, Doug, Yes, just a couple
Speaker 1: of rapid fire questions and then I'll let you out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 2: Drink first.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious your thoughts on a couple of different
Speaker 1: paranormal phenomenal Maybe it'll inspire. Maybe you go, oh, actually
Speaker 1: I have a story. Maybe not no pressure psychics. Mm.
Speaker 2: I think most of them are running some scam, But
Speaker 2: again I don't. Sometimes it's pretty amazing the things psychics
Speaker 2: will say. But you know, I've never personally had an
Speaker 2: amazing psychic experience.
Speaker 1: Have you been to psychics?
Speaker 2: I've tried it a couple of times. You know, I
Speaker 2: get a carnival or like Hollywood Boulevard or something like that,
Speaker 2: you know, getting my palm red, you know, and sometimes
Speaker 2: you also just meet somebody, especially in La who says
Speaker 2: they know how to read palms or do tarot cards,
Speaker 2: so you mess with that. But that all just seems like,
Speaker 2: you know, just sort of guesswork, right.
Speaker 1: What about Ouiji boards?
Speaker 2: I haven't had too much success with a Wiji board.
Speaker 2: I haven't ever really felt like I connected with something.
Speaker 2: But people do seem sure love to put their hand
Speaker 2: on there and push it around, like especially in a
Speaker 2: movie where they're like they'll put their hands on and
Speaker 2: they're going hy e s. Yeah, you know, like really quick,
Speaker 2: like to me, if it's real, it's just gonna be
Speaker 2: very subtle little movements. Yeah, but again it's a bunch
Speaker 2: of people with their hands on it that all have
Speaker 2: different agendas.
Speaker 1: Where are you from? My gun?
Speaker 2: San Diego?
Speaker 1: Okay, so did you did you grow up with any
Speaker 1: local urban legends or anything like that? Ooh, there's like
Speaker 1: a scary road in San Diego area that I can't
Speaker 1: remember the story of, but it's like a scary road
Speaker 1: where like there's like creatures come out at night. I
Speaker 1: don't know one of those things.
Speaker 2: There's this one street by my high school in uh
Speaker 2: the El cahoone part of San Diego where there's like
Speaker 2: this old motel and it was just sort of they
Speaker 2: put this freeway in and it just sort of became
Speaker 2: like it's it's a little area that was kind of secluded,
Speaker 2: but we'd walk by it sometimes to get to the
Speaker 2: high school. But everybody would always talk about how it
Speaker 2: appeared to be like there was a noose hanging from
Speaker 2: a tree outside of this hotel. So everybody had their
Speaker 2: own version of what was going on with that. But
Speaker 2: I always just felt like maybe it was just a
Speaker 2: branch or a piece of rope that that kind of
Speaker 2: looked like a noose, Okay, but still just the idea
Speaker 2: of it is pretty, uh, pretty scary.
Speaker 1: That is spooky. I know a lot of well see
Speaker 1: some of the iconic haunted places in San Diego. So
Speaker 1: there's the Whaley House. You ever been there? Whaley House
Speaker 1: is in like old town.
Speaker 2: That sounds right.
Speaker 1: It's been a minute since I've been there, but I
Speaker 1: feel like it's one of those places where all the
Speaker 1: people that dress their dressed like in the time period.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and yeah, and they like give you like
Speaker 1: guided tours.
Speaker 2: It sounds familiar. It just sounds like something I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been into the older I got and I don't
Speaker 2: know if high school. Do you think they went on
Speaker 2: field trips to this place, like a field trip, Yes,
Speaker 2: I might have. I definitely went to like all the
Speaker 2: museums in San Diego on field trips. And every Halloween
Speaker 2: the Prehistoric Museum would do a haunted museum where you
Speaker 2: walk through the whole thing, but the whole thing is
Speaker 2: already all caveman statues, so you turn off all the lights.
Speaker 2: Now you got a haunted you know, a haunted house
Speaker 2: slash museum. But I always thought that was such a
Speaker 2: weird thing to do in a museum, is to take
Speaker 2: these pieces that are supposed to be like educational or
Speaker 2: artifacts and then just go, yeah, but just this is scary.
Speaker 2: If the lights are.
Speaker 1: Off, throw them in the pillory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've been pillaried. I think they had
Speaker 2: one like in Williamsburg or something when I went on
Speaker 2: a field trip to Washington, d C. I think they
Speaker 2: had because they have the people churning butter and stuff
Speaker 2: like what you were just saying, say about the Wailey House.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So wild.
Speaker 1: And then do you like see the person on their break,
Speaker 1: like on their phone, or like smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2: Always smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 1: Well, Doug, that's it, that's it. That was it, quick
Speaker 1: and easy. Yeah, where do people find you? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 1: Guys? I feel like you do like a bajillion different things.
Speaker 2: I do have a bunch of shows they do locally
Speaker 2: in LA but also out on the road. Benson Movie Interruption,
Speaker 2: Douglas Movies, and Douglavesmovies. Dot com is where all of
Speaker 2: my dates are, so they can just go there and
Speaker 2: see all the things I'm up to.
Speaker 1: Wait, here's the question. What about when people say a
Speaker 1: movie is cursed? That's true? You know, people say that
Speaker 1: about some of these.
Speaker 2: Things they do, they say it about. You know, I've
Speaker 2: seen lots of things be you know, people say their cursed,
Speaker 2: you know, for you know, one reason or another. But
Speaker 2: like one that springs to mind is the the Poltergeist films. Yes,
Speaker 2: like somebody from each Poltergeist film dies, but all under
Speaker 2: different circumstances. So you can either say that that's the
Speaker 2: curse is spreading the wealth, or you could say that
Speaker 2: it's just a unfortunate coincidence. Do you know.
Speaker 1: My favorite one is it's been a minute since I've
Speaker 1: talked about this on the pod A Tuk a Tuk
Speaker 1: a t Uk Do.
Speaker 2: You know about this is a movie?
Speaker 1: It was a movie script. It was a kind of
Speaker 1: like a fish shot of water comedy film script. I
Speaker 1: always get this a little bit confused, but essentially it
Speaker 1: was written for I want to say, John Belushi or
Speaker 1: John Candy.
Speaker 2: So both of those sound legit.
Speaker 1: It was written for one of them, and it was
Speaker 1: a supposed to be that he was like an indigenous
Speaker 1: person from like Alaska, and then he comes to America
Speaker 1: and it's like he's trying to you know, it's a
Speaker 1: typical like eighties comedy or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Robin Williams in Moscow on the Hudson.
Speaker 1: Very that so any and they say that anybody that
Speaker 1: was offered the role died.
Speaker 2: Oh so that's why both those guys did die.
Speaker 1: There's a whole long list of them that they say,
Speaker 1: and even the guy that wrote it has done interviews
Speaker 1: about it before to confirm, but like tons of people
Speaker 1: and to the point where I think they just kind
Speaker 1: of shelfed it. But it was like very strange.
Speaker 2: I mean those were you know, Lucy and Candy lived
Speaker 2: lived life pretty hard. So if every other actor they
Speaker 2: went after it for that role had the same energy.
Speaker 2: I could see why they were all young.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, on that note, what a fun, fun finish.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. There's a there's a movie script
Speaker 1: I would like for you to read. Oh no, thank
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