WEBVTT - Doug Benson Is a Ghost Ally

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<v Speaker 1>What's that at the spooky Hey, Judy, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute, said

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<v Speaker 1>nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Ghosted by ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>people that I like about the paranormal. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Benson is on the show. One of my favorite comedians. Truly,

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<v Speaker 1>he kills me. We'll get to that in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but before that, Oh my god, I got an email

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<v Speaker 1>from Rachel. Rachel says Rosie, gorgeous, goooul you Rachel. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in the Bay Area and was so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to hear you talk about the Haunted Toys r US.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. If you don't know what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>go back listen to the recent episode with rosebud Baker

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<v Speaker 1>where we talk about the Haunted Toys r US that

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<v Speaker 1>has turned into an RAI. Okay, back to Rachel. In

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<v Speaker 1>the mid nineties, when I was a small creepy child,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and I tried to visit all the places

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<v Speaker 1>listed in the Haunted Houses of California book that I

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<v Speaker 1>got at the Winchester Mystery House gift shop. Oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've never been, where is that San Jose up

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<v Speaker 1>north in California? Best gift shop ever? And in that

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<v Speaker 1>book was the Sunny Veil Toys r Us. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>asking the cashier at Toys r Us if she thought

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<v Speaker 1>that the store was haunted, and she turned pale. She

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<v Speaker 1>dropped her voice and asked us seriously if we were

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<v Speaker 1>from the X Files. I was eight years old and

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<v Speaker 1>not a fictional FBI agent. For the record, Eventually we

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<v Speaker 1>found a janitor at the toys arrest who was willing

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<v Speaker 1>to talk or looking for an excuse to stop mopping.

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<v Speaker 1>He solemnly nodded his head and gestured down another aisle.

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<v Speaker 1>The janitor said, he's there. Now. When you walk through,

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<v Speaker 1>every hair on the back of your arms will stand straight.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I leave him alone and he leaves me alone,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that. Of course, I go back down that aisle,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, there's a cold spot, and every hair

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of my arm stand straight up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>proven haunted. Clink the ghost gabbl ras. Oh, I got

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<v Speaker 1>it right here. You're great and a delight. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>and I were just watching the Netflix documentary Outstanding. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in that and you saw me. Oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so nice in here. Oh, I can't wait to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna come to the Twin Cities anytime soon? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>funny you say that, Rachel. I actually am. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be in Minneapolis in May. All those dates are on

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram. I am going to so many cities, not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about ghosts, though I bet ghosts will probably come up,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, basically just talking about silly gay stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But Alice, you come on down too. It's for gay

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<v Speaker 1>people and allies and it's just silly, not for children.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm doing all these cities in May, July,

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<v Speaker 1>and August. Look at the dates on my Instagram at

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<v Speaker 1>roz Hernandez. Oh. Another place that you can look is

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<v Speaker 1>a new little web page I've started called Roshernandez tour

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Okay, here we go, Doug Benson. Time on

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<v Speaker 1>with the show, Doug Benson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, hi present.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with your ghost where.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know something I didn't have to like pull

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<v Speaker 2>this out of the back of the closet to come

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<v Speaker 2>beyond ghosted. I really wear this stuff with some frequency.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have a hoodie sweater that's got the ghost

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<v Speaker 2>A nice white ghost right in the center, and I

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<v Speaker 2>almost wore that, and I would have been too warm.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the company Ghostly Goods. Ghostly Goods.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they are a fledgling cannabis company in Florida

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<v Speaker 2>where they won't legalize it. So in the meantime, he's

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<v Speaker 2>making cool apparel for his company that can't really move

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<v Speaker 2>forward until Florida gets their act together.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't smoke weed, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I do all kinds of I bibe it in many ways,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, smoking is one of them, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not legal in Florida. So how do

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<v Speaker 1>you how do people so people? That means people don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they just do it anyway. It's crazy, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>wild the places that you think about, Like I was

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<v Speaker 2>just reading today about how Pennsylvania won't legalize but all

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<v Speaker 2>the states around them have so like if you're living

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<v Speaker 2>in Philadelphia, you just go to New Jersey to get

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<v Speaker 2>your weed and then come back.

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<v Speaker 1>And so old school at this point. Yeah, living in

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<v Speaker 1>LA it's like people are just smoking weed everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know in both markets seem to be working.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like there's stores that are seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>making money, but people still have their other ways to

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<v Speaker 2>get it, you know, because the stores are expensive, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>very pricey.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of look like you're in like a paranormal

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<v Speaker 1>investigation group when you first showed up. That's what I loved.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have been I should have some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like device, some sort of detecting device.

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<v Speaker 1>Because for anyone not watching you're you have a hat

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<v Speaker 1>with a ghost on and a jacket with a ghost It.

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<v Speaker 2>Do look like I work for like a ghost exterminator company.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever experienced a ghost?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not, to the best of my recollection.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in it?

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<v Speaker 2>It may have happened to me where I was blackout

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<v Speaker 2>drunk one time or two, but I do believe in

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<v Speaker 2>go because, first of all, there's no reason to not

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<v Speaker 2>believe in ghosts that I can think of, because some

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<v Speaker 2>people have seen them, and everything around us to me

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<v Speaker 2>is a strange miracle that like, why are there? Why

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<v Speaker 2>are there? People say, how could there be ghosts? They say,

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<v Speaker 2>how can there be people? How'd that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there should also potentially be ghosts, but I've never

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<v Speaker 2>personally experienced it. And whenever you know this doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. But whatever. I'm somewhere there where somebody says,

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<v Speaker 2>don't stay at that hotel it's haunted, don't go in

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<v Speaker 2>that bar, it's haunted. Whenever people call things haunted, I

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<v Speaker 2>just that's where you know, I'm gonna go check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, oftentimes like during business hours, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like by the light of day. So what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What's a what's the place you've been that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Driscoll Hotel in Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>They won't stop about how haunted that thing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the people that like that sort of thing, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I've been into the bar there. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't I haven't stayed in a room there. But every

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<v Speaker 2>time I go to south By Southwest, somebody that's staying

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<v Speaker 2>in that hotel will be like, yeah, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>weird there's weird bumping, right, you know, I heard noises, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, you've stayed at hotels where you don't

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<v Speaker 2>hear noises. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is when I need to check out. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for reminding me of that, because I'm really into going

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<v Speaker 1>to hotels that are haunted. I don't like to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>at them. If you tell me it's haunted, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way amual sleep. But I like to go poke my

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<v Speaker 1>head around. Sure, I get a little nosy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they're probably an older hotel, so you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a key to go up in the

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<v Speaker 2>elevator and stuff, so you could just go walk the halls.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, what about I want to know your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about other things. Okay, like UFOs.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, never experienced one, but certainly not against the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Not I'm not scarrett of aliens because in my experience,

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<v Speaker 2>they've had plenty of time to really make a show

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<v Speaker 2>of it, like to really do something big and bad, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it hasn't happened, So I can't put too much

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<v Speaker 2>concern into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And that's the thing. At this point, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like so much crazy shit happens. That is

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, I never would have thought that the

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<v Speaker 1>world would have closed down because of a disease the

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<v Speaker 1>way it did with COVID, Like who knows what will

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<v Speaker 1>ever happen. So if a UFO came down, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we'd all be like if you would have done

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<v Speaker 1>this twenty years ago, we would have really given you

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction you want. But right now we're just like, okay, great, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's other TV programs we'd rather watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Are you a psychedelic person? Interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>Never never mess with any I'm quite other than alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>and uh weed, I'm pretty straight, you know straight? You know, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I haven't even tried most of the drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>And I only like one time I got to find

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<v Speaker 2>out how momentarily awesome morphine can be because I went,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because it was in the hospital with a

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<v Speaker 2>kidney stone, and they gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh uh.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty I mean, I'm not hooked on it

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<v Speaker 2>or anything, but I could see the appeal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh I got a kidney stone. But we talk

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<v Speaker 1>often on this show about psychedelics, people doing psychedelics and they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the things that they report seeing. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>just drugs or is there something to it a little supernatural?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that between ghosts and UFOs when somebody said, if

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<v Speaker 2>someone said to me I saw a ghost, I just

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much believe that they saw a ghost. But with

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<v Speaker 2>a UFO, you immediately go, are you sure it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a frisbee or a or you know, or just a

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<v Speaker 2>regular plane or helicopter or you know, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. There's so many plausible explanations for when people

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<v Speaker 2>think they see a UFO, right, but when they see it,

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<v Speaker 2>when they say they saw a ghosts is there a

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<v Speaker 2>strong breeze, like you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>The very pale person that's not a ghost?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because a breeze in and of itself could be

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<v Speaker 2>seem like a ghost if it like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, or just like knocking or you know, sounds

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<v Speaker 1>that you hear. They can all be explained away. But

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<v Speaker 1>like my thing with UFOs is, I don't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's up in the sky is so to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's like I don't know what all that. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess somebody can explain to you what every little drone

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<v Speaker 1>and satellite. I don't know all that shit is. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I went on this UFO tour a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago in Sedona. I've talked about this before, but as

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<v Speaker 1>time has gone on, I've talked to more people about

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<v Speaker 1>this tour and people are like, those aren't UFOs, Like

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<v Speaker 1>those are some kind of elon musk thing up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like I don't know something something that's not a UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just paid this woman to show me

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff because we like went up we had like

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<v Speaker 1>these binoculars that see at nighttime, and I was very

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that those are UFOs. But because I'm a dumb

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<v Speaker 1>dumb I don't know anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>She really is just scamming everybody, or do you think

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<v Speaker 2>she believes it and she's just the silly pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing that I always come back to with

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<v Speaker 1>this woman, so I go on this tour. I tell her, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have this podcast we talk about aliens, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to have you on the show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>after she had already told me that she's been abducted

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times, she's been up there, they know her. She

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<v Speaker 1>was very like she's known up there, okay, according to her,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, I gotta have this lady on my podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>She gave me her card, she gave me her number,

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<v Speaker 1>she gave me her email. I tried multiple times. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she finally went up there and she's never I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's up there exactly where she wants to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know what else, the tour doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time I was there, I was trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>the tour. I couldn't find it. So she's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Got that big ride, but she.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was her honestly, her goal the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it worked out. So I'm actually really happy for her.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, since we were talking about like how you

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<v Speaker 1>can explain away different things, I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about this famous story. And this is an old story

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<v Speaker 1>from England and so you no could just be hearsay,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently there are newspaper articles about it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>story of scratching Fanny of Cocklane.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just run with some of the weirdest names over there.

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<v Speaker 1>So this story takes place on cock Lane, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a narrow street that dates back to the twelve hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? And oh, by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>got all this information from Historic London Tours dot com. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So in seventeen fifty nine there was a lone shark

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<v Speaker 1>named William Kent that moves into an apartment on Cocklane

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman named Fanny Lines. L Yes, Fanny Lines.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the sister of William Kent's former wife. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what her name was, and why is she out

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<v Speaker 1>of the picture. Well, she died during childbirth, but so

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<v Speaker 1>can in law prevented him from marrying her sister. But

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them were in love. There was this

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<v Speaker 1>man named Richard Parsons who offered his lodging rooms on

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<v Speaker 1>Coch Lane to the couple, and so they move in

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<v Speaker 1>and strange sounds and ghost sightings had already been reported

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<v Speaker 1>before they even got there. And Kent and Fanny they

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<v Speaker 1>did not stick around because Fanny got pregnant. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't have a child here. It's haunted. So they

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<v Speaker 1>move off, and then a couple of weeks later, Fanny

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<v Speaker 1>got smallpox and she died.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Also the guy that rented the house to them, this

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons guy, he was he had debt that he needed

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<v Speaker 1>to pay to the man Kent, and he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting sued a whole thing whatever. Okay, So anyway to

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<v Speaker 1>the ghost stuff. So Fannylines is now dead. The apartment

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<v Speaker 1>where they were living all of a sudden starts being

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<v Speaker 1>haunted and they think it's Fanny. Fanny is scratching like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're hearing scratching noises from Fanny Lines. They did seances.

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<v Speaker 1>They had local ministers. The daughter of the man who

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<v Speaker 1>lived there. She was eleven years old and she was

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<v Speaker 1>like the center of all this, and they would do

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<v Speaker 1>this thing where they'd say knock once for yes, twice

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<v Speaker 1>for no, and from that they were able to conclude

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<v Speaker 1>that it was indeed Fanny. She says that she was

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<v Speaker 1>poisoned by the man Kent. So it says the earlier

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<v Speaker 1>scratchings and ghost sightings were determined to be Fanny's sister.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Fanny was still alive, Fanny, I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>her Fanny Senior, Big Fanny. So big Fanny, the original

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<v Speaker 1>sister was haunting because she was trying to warn Fanny,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know that man's going to poison you. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is all coming from these knock once for yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this time in history people were taking that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff seriously. So this became a big news story.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I have a lot of respect for

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<v Speaker 1>this man, the man that ran the place. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in debt. He just got sued. He decided he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to start charging people to come to come listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Fanny scratching. So all kinds of people were coming, even

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<v Speaker 1>the Duke of York himself showed up to hear scratching Fanny.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, a lot of people are skeptical of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah. Basically turns out it was the

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<v Speaker 1>little girl. She was just scratching a piece of wood,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was no ghosts.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like, but she'd have to do it like, especially

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<v Speaker 2>once the tourists started coming through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes places, everyone she was scratching away and knocking on

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<v Speaker 1>a block of wood that she had under her sheets

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<v Speaker 1>in her bed, and god, people were dumb back then was.

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<v Speaker 2>The girl behind the whole thing? Was her idea?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Who?

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<v Speaker 1>It was highly speculated it was her dad, because her

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<v Speaker 1>dad was got sued by the man Kent okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>man who was married to Fanny and Fanny senior. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Kent was a loan shark, gave some money to

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<v Speaker 1>this man and his eleven year old daughter. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pay the money back, got suits. Now he's like

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<v Speaker 1>really in debt. So his idea for how to make

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<v Speaker 1>money back is to say that the loan shark poisoned

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and now she's scratching my daughter's bed and

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<v Speaker 1>charge people to come see it.

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<v Speaker 2>In a different time, that guy could have been like

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<v Speaker 2>a filmmaker or a producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, nowadays, this would be a TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Put all that together to just make it happen. Bring

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<v Speaker 2>a child into it.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be a TikTok nowadays. Like somebody being like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a scratch in my house and it won't go away,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like Part seventeen as them being like, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm finding out that it's the wife who was poisoned, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>please this this this scam has been going on for years.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically he was found guilty of making this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing up. They let the They let the eleven year

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<v Speaker 1>old girl free because they said she was under the

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<v Speaker 1>influence of her father. And he was found guilty of conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Even his wife was included in this and three other

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<v Speaker 1>people and he was punished three days in the pillory

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<v Speaker 1>and then two years in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>What oh okay for scratching. I thought the pillary was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the worst part.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it got worse, But I don't the pillary.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody in town could see the person that like

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<v Speaker 2>we've kept you know, they're going to jail, so they

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<v Speaker 2>have to suffer for a few days in front of everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, is that how that works?

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<v Speaker 1>It says pillary is a wooden or metal framework that's

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<v Speaker 1>used to publicly humiliate. Oh, it's that thing where you

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<v Speaker 1>put your arms through and your head through.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like fun to do when you're like visiting a western.

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<v Speaker 1>And you take a photo. Yeah, but they fully had

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<v Speaker 1>him in there, and I'm sure there were people walking

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<v Speaker 1>by going I'll give you something to scratch. Hey, scratch

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<v Speaker 1>my fanny.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could spin on him and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that sounds fun. We need to bring that back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy. So there's mud in your eye.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think that that feels extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. Like when you said three days of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, well, if you can get through

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<v Speaker 2>those three days alive, then I guess it's over. But

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<v Speaker 2>then then then prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have to go to prison for conspiracy. But

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<v Speaker 1>also it's like that's slam dirt. You can't say somebody

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<v Speaker 1>poisoned his wife to death. She died of smallpox, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, but he's like her ghost is telling me

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<v Speaker 1>that she's poisoned. He poisoned her. That's sketchy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny that they got so much trouble for essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>like anybody just sets up a haunted house, it says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, come through here, it's haunted. And when it isn't,

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<v Speaker 2>why aren't they being arrested?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, that's a great idea, that's how great.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's suing that wasn't really haunted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those people, that's faulty advertising.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe Disney killed somebody in the haunted mansion

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<v Speaker 2>when it was being constructed to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they say there's real ghosts in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't they be If I was a ghost, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I go. There's always a party going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was absolutely and I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Birthday, which I don't understand that concept.

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<v Speaker 1>You can like pop out and nobody would know the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're just like you could just be yourself, let

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<v Speaker 1>your freak flag fly. Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen that ghost before, Daddy. That ghost over

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<v Speaker 2>there is new.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I show you a haunted doll?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Please, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay, Doug Benson.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I do is I go to eBay dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and I type in the words haunted doll. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big market Okay. There's thousands of haunted

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<v Speaker 1>dolls for sale, and they all come with little biographies.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very differently priced. There's there's a haunted doll for anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like you to meet Mildred, who is going for

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three dollars and ten cents. Geehaw, can you show

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<v Speaker 1>us this haunted doll? You got it? Ras there, she Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be such a jump scare.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa she is silly.

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<v Speaker 2>I always think of like kind of maybe a little

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<v Speaker 2>scary looking doll, but this one is she looks scared.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a doll that kind of has her

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<v Speaker 1>eyes crossed and like a poudy lower lip, and she

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<v Speaker 1>looks like something's definitely wrong. Something is not right with

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<v Speaker 1>this doll.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what her terrible haircut.

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<v Speaker 1>Her hair is a mess. She absolutely got that supercuts

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<v Speaker 1>by one geting free and took the free one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that face is pretty much maybe the moment

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<v Speaker 2>she saw that haircut, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she just froze like that forever. Yeah. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the bio. It says meat Mildred. She's a down to

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<v Speaker 1>earth spirit with a real relatable vibe. She's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>frumpy and sometimes comes off as a debbie downer, but

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<v Speaker 1>deep down she just craves genuine friendship and a place

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<v Speaker 1>to belong. Mildred's spirit hails from a simpler time when

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<v Speaker 1>she worked a modest job at a local store, always

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<v Speaker 1>willing to lend a hand whenever life got her down.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. Let's get to the good stuff here.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's some of the stuff you can you'll witness if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you buy her. Occasional soft size and gentle

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<v Speaker 1>grumbling like she's musing about old times, Subtle movements that

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<v Speaker 1>hint she might be looking around for someone to talk to,

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<v Speaker 1>and a quiet, lingering aura of wistfulness that fills the

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<v Speaker 1>room during those calm moments. She does the best in

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<v Speaker 1>a relaxed, no fuss environment. She responds to a cozy corner,

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet conversation, or simply sharing your day with her. Yeah,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much about her. This is definitely one that

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<v Speaker 1>people listening go to ghosted by Roz on Instagram to

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at her and her bangs. Doug, can

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<v Speaker 1>I play you some ghost voices? Yes, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>EVP or ev pase have you ever heard the term EVP?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Electronic Voice Phenomena show that's SPU. This is EVP okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, it's anytime somebody captures a ghost speaking a

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<v Speaker 1>recording of it, honestly, with your ghost uniform on today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the kind of thing that you seem like

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<v Speaker 1>you would be capturing, Okay, ghost saying something. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>got two of them for you. This first one is

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<v Speaker 1>from a YouTube channel called m T Paranormal Life. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it saying? I don't know where this is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere somewhere outside. They captured this ghost speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody figured out.

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<v Speaker 1>The words, it's so clear you can't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, did I hear? Shut up? Is that in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up, you bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut up, bitch, you bitch. Listen. That's not a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta hear it. I think you were born for

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>this job, just for the top you want. They did

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<v Speaker 1>not think it was shut up, bitch, you bitch? Did

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<v Speaker 1>they think it was a There are demons? B you

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<v Speaker 1>are awful, so awful. See I want waffles please? Or

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<v Speaker 1>d Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Okay, it's one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's you think it's b you are awful,

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<v Speaker 1>so awful.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know they.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>They think it's a there are demons.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear it again. With that in mind, I can't sell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I hear too. Now, okay, here's one more.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is from Paranormal Adventures. Uk h, what is

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it saying, Doug? I don't know where this is from either?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are these? Okay? Here we go. It's a British castle,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a castle. Okay, this one's different. It's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more whispery.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see sounds like a seal flapping around in

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<v Speaker 2>a grotto.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they think it was a Oh? Look at her,

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<v Speaker 1>that diva? Do they think it was b I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to be fainting. See, don't look here painting or d

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<v Speaker 1>it's me Fanny lines.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm back. I'm gonna go and see because it's such weird,

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<v Speaker 2>strange sentence structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't look here painting. That is what they thought. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a sc let's listen for that now.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard painting that time. Yeah, but there's something there's

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<v Speaker 2>another noise going on this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's definitely a seal flopping

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>around a grotto, and then there's don't look now painting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it again? Please all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's like that movie Andre Is that what it

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<v Speaker 1>was called? The Seal movie from the nineties. Yeah, that's

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>happening while somebody's whispering about a painting. Let's do another

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>thing here, o quark, What about Bigfoot? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I wish there was a big I wish

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<v Speaker 2>we'd find him, learn his likes and dislikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he clearly doesn't like to be bothered.

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<v Speaker 2>If he is. No, I'm kind of happy that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy with the idea that there's a Bigfoot who's gotten

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<v Speaker 2>away with not being caught. That's or you've seen for

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<v Speaker 2>a long period of time.

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>If that's true, that's to commit to that and just

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>give the people just enough, just a little, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, he shaves for the summer. Who knows.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.959
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting and that's a new theory.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 2>He walks, he walks abongst us. Yeah, he probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Well apparently in here's an article from November of this

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<v Speaker 1>past year. Uh, he was seen in South Carolina. It

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<v Speaker 1>says here, according to a new report. This is from

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>UH the State, which is not the company group The

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the State dot com is a local news source. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it says, according to a new report, the urban

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<v Speaker 1>legend also called Sasquatch was seen on November second. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a big football game going on. It's between

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<v Speaker 1>football USC's forty four and twenty home game win over

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M. It says. The report makes no

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<v Speaker 1>mention of Bigfoot wearing any game cocks apparel. I think

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a local joke, a little hilarious, yeah, commentary. So anyway,

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it says a witness that refers to himself as j

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<v Speaker 1>M identified himself as a police officer. He reported the

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<v Speaker 1>sighting on November six to Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, which

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<v Speaker 1>was founded in nineteen ninety five. Okay. Now, this organization's founder,

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<v Speaker 1>whose name is Matthew Moneymaker, he did a follow up

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<v Speaker 1>investigation and found that the report was indeed credible.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>He's also Moneymaker is also a co host of the

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>show Finding Bigfoot. Okay. So basically the story is that

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<v Speaker 1>the witness says that he was deer hunting and he

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in a ground blind is that a hunting thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess like a almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a where you're hiding so that you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like when you're like a trench in the battlefield

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing.

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. He heard a loud, deep toned

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>grunt and a stomp at the same time. Not a grunt.

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't like grunts. He turned around and he saw

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<v Speaker 1>an approximately seven to seven point five foot tall, brown

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>human life shape through all of the brush. It had

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<v Speaker 1>long brown hair, ape like face, and long arms. I'm

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a police officer and had no clue what to make

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of it, he says. At this point, as much as

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to admit it, I'm convinced I saw bigfoot.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing with all these stories. Anytime it's a cop,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, this person's a cop, they wouldn't lie.

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Something that I think they're relying on with the story

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>is the fact that the guy's a cop, because we

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>get that with ghost stories too. All the time. The

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>cops came and they said they also saw the thing,

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay, well there cops, Like the cops

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>never lied, like whatever. Not to get political, but yeah,

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>so bigfoot.

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 2>There sworn to, you know, be honest. When they see

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<v Speaker 2>anything unusual, anything paranormal or Bigfoot.

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Like definite off the clock shooting.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 2>They protect and serve, and serve. They protect us from

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot and serve Bigfoot hot lunch every day. I keep

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>if Bigfoot's not out there, then what are the police

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 2>protecting us from? So they work. They're in cahoots. The

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 2>police and Bigfoot are working together to keep us scared.

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Big Foot. There we go, Doug, Yes, just a couple

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>of rapid fire questions and then I'll let you out

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious your thoughts on a couple of different

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>paranormal phenomenal Maybe it'll inspire. Maybe you go, oh, actually

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I have a story. Maybe not no pressure psychics. Mm.

0:35:55.520 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I think most of them are running some scam, But

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<v Speaker 2>again I don't. Sometimes it's pretty amazing the things psychics

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>will say. But you know, I've never personally had an

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>amazing psychic experience.

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Have you been to psychics?

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I've tried it a couple of times. You know, I

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 2>get a carnival or like Hollywood Boulevard or something like that,

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting my palm red, you know, and sometimes

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you also just meet somebody, especially in La who says

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>they know how to read palms or do tarot cards,

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 2>so you mess with that. But that all just seems like,

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, just sort of guesswork, right.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>What about Ouiji boards?

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had too much success with a Wiji board.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I haven't ever really felt like I connected with something.

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 2>But people do seem sure love to put their hand

0:36:54.640 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 2>on there and push it around, like especially in a

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>movie where they're like they'll put their hands on and

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 2>they're going hy e s. Yeah, you know, like really quick,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>like to me, if it's real, it's just gonna be

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 2>very subtle little movements. Yeah, but again it's a bunch

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 2>of people with their hands on it that all have

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>different agendas.

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Where are you from? My gun?

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>San Diego?

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so did you did you grow up with any

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>local urban legends or anything like that? Ooh, there's like

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 1>a scary road in San Diego area that I can't

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>remember the story of, but it's like a scary road

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>where like there's like creatures come out at night. I

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know one of those things.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>There's this one street by my high school in uh

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the El cahoone part of San Diego where there's like

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>this old motel and it was just sort of they

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>put this freeway in and it just sort of became

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>like it's it's a little area that was kind of secluded,

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 2>but we'd walk by it sometimes to get to the

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 2>high school. But everybody would always talk about how it

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>appeared to be like there was a noose hanging from

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 2>a tree outside of this hotel. So everybody had their

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>own version of what was going on with that. But

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I always just felt like maybe it was just a

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 2>branch or a piece of rope that that kind of

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>looked like a noose, Okay, but still just the idea

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>of it is pretty, uh, pretty scary.

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>That is spooky. I know a lot of well see

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the iconic haunted places in San Diego. So

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>there's the Whaley House. You ever been there? Whaley House

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>is in like old town.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds right.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>It's been a minute since I've been there, but I

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's one of those places where all the

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>people that dress their dressed like in the time period.

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and yeah, and they like give you like

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>guided tours.

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 2>It sounds familiar. It just sounds like something I wouldn't

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>have been into the older I got and I don't

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>know if high school. Do you think they went on

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 2>field trips to this place, like a field trip, Yes,

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I might have. I definitely went to like all the

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 2>museums in San Diego on field trips. And every Halloween

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the Prehistoric Museum would do a haunted museum where you

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 2>walk through the whole thing, but the whole thing is

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 2>already all caveman statues, so you turn off all the lights.

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Now you got a haunted you know, a haunted house

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 2>slash museum. But I always thought that was such a

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>weird thing to do in a museum, is to take

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>these pieces that are supposed to be like educational or

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>artifacts and then just go, yeah, but just this is scary.

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 2>If the lights are.

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<v Speaker 1>Off, throw them in the pillory.

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I've been pillaried. I think they had

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 2>one like in Williamsburg or something when I went on

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 2>a field trip to Washington, d C. I think they

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>had because they have the people churning butter and stuff

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 2>like what you were just saying, say about the Wailey House.

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with that kind of thing.

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So wild.

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>And then do you like see the person on their break,

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>like on their phone, or like smoking a cigarette.

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Always smoking a cigarette.

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, Doug, that's it, that's it. That was it, quick

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and easy. Yeah, where do people find you? What's going on?

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you?

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Guys? I feel like you do like a bajillion different things.

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I do have a bunch of shows they do locally

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>in LA but also out on the road. Benson Movie Interruption,

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Douglas Movies, and Douglavesmovies. Dot com is where all of

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 2>my dates are, so they can just go there and

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 2>see all the things I'm up to.

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Wait, here's the question. What about when people say a

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>movie is cursed? That's true? You know, people say that

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>about some of these.

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Things they do, they say it about. You know, I've

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>seen lots of things be you know, people say their cursed,

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, for you know, one reason or another. But

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>like one that springs to mind is the the Poltergeist films. Yes,

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>like somebody from each Poltergeist film dies, but all under

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>different circumstances. So you can either say that that's the

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 2>curse is spreading the wealth, or you could say that

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just a unfortunate coincidence. Do you know.

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>My favorite one is it's been a minute since I've

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about this on the pod A Tuk a Tuk

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a t Uk Do.

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 2>You know about this is a movie?

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>It was a movie script. It was a kind of

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like a fish shot of water comedy film script. I

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>always get this a little bit confused, but essentially it

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was written for I want to say, John Belushi or

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>John Candy.

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>So both of those sound legit.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It was written for one of them, and it was

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a supposed to be that he was like an indigenous

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>person from like Alaska, and then he comes to America

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's like he's trying to you know, it's a

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>typical like eighties comedy or whatever.

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Robin Williams in Moscow on the Hudson.

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Very that so any and they say that anybody that

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>was offered the role died.

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh so that's why both those guys did die.

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole long list of them that they say,

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and even the guy that wrote it has done interviews

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:41.240
<v Speaker 1>about it before to confirm, but like tons of people

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.399
<v Speaker 1>and to the point where I think they just kind

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>of shelfed it. But it was like very strange.

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean those were you know, Lucy and Candy lived

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 2>lived life pretty hard. So if every other actor they

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>went after it for that role had the same energy.

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I could see why they were all young.

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, on that note, what a fun, fun finish.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining me. There's a there's a movie script

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I would like for you to read. Oh no, thank

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you so much to Doug Benson. What a delight. Hey,

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you're following us right on the on social media at

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:30.800
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0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 1>we gotta we gotta get some views on these gorgeous clips.

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're also posting these on YouTube, not necessarily

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.840
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0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:44.279
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0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.719
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0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, we would love for you to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I even put on makeup, all right. I love

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you all, both living and dad. But if I didn't

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came on.

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

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<v Speaker 1>your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

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<v Speaker 1>producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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<v Speaker 1>alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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<v Speaker 1>by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the

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<v Speaker 1>petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Edition production support from the hair raising

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the spine

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<v Speaker 1>chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.

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<v Speaker 1>Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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<v Speaker 1>Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Frightening Danielle Kramer.