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Speaker 1: nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to

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Speaker 1: Ghosted by ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to

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Speaker 1: people that I like about the paranormal. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Doug Benson is on the show. One of my favorite comedians. Truly,

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Speaker 1: he kills me. We'll get to that in a moment,

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Speaker 1: but before that, Oh my god, I got an email

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Speaker 1: from Rachel. Rachel says Rosie, gorgeous, goooul you Rachel. I

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Speaker 1: grew up in the Bay Area and was so excited

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Speaker 1: to hear you talk about the Haunted Toys r US.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. If you don't know what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: go back listen to the recent episode with rosebud Baker

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Speaker 1: where we talk about the Haunted Toys r US that

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Speaker 1: has turned into an RAI. Okay, back to Rachel. In

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Speaker 1: the mid nineties, when I was a small creepy child,

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Speaker 1: my mom and I tried to visit all the places

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Speaker 1: got at the Winchester Mystery House gift shop. Oh my God,

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Speaker 1: if you've never been, where is that San Jose up

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Speaker 1: asking the cashier at Toys r Us if she thought

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Speaker 1: from the X Files. I was eight years old and

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Speaker 1: not a fictional FBI agent. For the record, Eventually we

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Speaker 1: found a janitor at the toys arrest who was willing

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Speaker 1: He solemnly nodded his head and gestured down another aisle.

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Speaker 1: The janitor said, he's there. Now. When you walk through,

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Speaker 1: every hair on the back of your arms will stand straight.

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Speaker 1: But if I leave him alone and he leaves me alone,

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Speaker 1: that's that. Of course, I go back down that aisle,

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Speaker 1: and sure enough, there's a cold spot, and every hair

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Speaker 1: proven haunted. Clink the ghost gabbl ras. Oh, I got

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Speaker 1: it right here. You're great and a delight. My wife

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Speaker 1: and I were just watching the Netflix documentary Outstanding. Oh

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Speaker 1: I'm in that and you saw me. Oh, this is

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Speaker 1: so nice in here. Oh, I can't wait to see you.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna come to the Twin Cities anytime soon? Hey,

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Speaker 1: funny you say that, Rachel. I actually am. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be in Minneapolis in May. All those dates are on

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Speaker 1: my Instagram. I am going to so many cities, not

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Speaker 1: talking about ghosts, though I bet ghosts will probably come up,

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Speaker 1: but you know, basically just talking about silly gay stuff.

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Speaker 1: But Alice, you come on down too. It's for gay

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Speaker 1: people and allies and it's just silly, not for children.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm doing all these cities in May, July,

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Speaker 1: and August. Look at the dates on my Instagram at

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Speaker 1: roz Hernandez. Oh. Another place that you can look is

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Speaker 1: a new little web page I've started called Roshernandez tour

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Okay, here we go, Doug Benson. Time on

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Speaker 1: with the show, Doug Benson.

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Speaker 2: Yes, hi present.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with your ghost where.

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Speaker 2: It's you know something I didn't have to like pull

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Speaker 2: beyond ghosted. I really wear this stuff with some frequency.

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Speaker 2: I also have a hoodie sweater that's got the ghost

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Speaker 1: What's the company Ghostly Goods. Ghostly Goods.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are a fledgling cannabis company in Florida

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Speaker 2: forward until Florida gets their act together.

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Speaker 1: You don't smoke weed, dude.

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Speaker 2: I do all kinds of I bibe it in many ways,

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Speaker 2: but yes, smoking is one of them, but.

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Speaker 2: No, they just do it anyway. It's crazy, Like it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know in both markets seem to be working.

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Speaker 1: You kind of look like you're in like a paranormal

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Speaker 1: Because for anyone not watching you're you have a hat

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Speaker 2: Then there should also potentially be ghosts, but I've never

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Speaker 1: So okay, what about I want to know your thoughts

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Speaker 2: Again, never experienced one, but certainly not against the idea.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that's the thing. At this point, it's like

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Speaker 2: Now there's other TV programs we'd rather watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Are you a psychedelic person? Interesting?

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Speaker 2: Never never mess with any I'm quite other than alcohol

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Speaker 1: She gave me her card, she gave me her number,

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Speaker 1: Because you know what else, the tour doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 1: Oh, nowadays, this would be a TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Put all that together to just make it happen. Bring

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Speaker 1: This would be a TikTok nowadays. Like somebody being like,

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Speaker 2: What oh okay for scratching. I thought the pillary was

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it got worse, But I don't the pillary.

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Speaker 2: So everybody in town could see the person that like

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Speaker 1: It says pillary is a wooden or metal framework that's

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Speaker 2: That's like fun to do when you're like visiting a western.

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Speaker 1: And you take a photo. Yeah, but they fully had

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Speaker 2: I think you could spin on him and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh that sounds fun. We need to bring that back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. So there's mud in your eye.

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Speaker 1: But I just think that that feels extreme.

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Speaker 2: It does. Like when you said three days of that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, if you can get through

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Speaker 1: Then you have to go to prison for conspiracy. But

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Speaker 2: It's funny that they got so much trouble for essentially,

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's a great idea, that's how great.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's suing that wasn't really haunted.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe Disney killed somebody in the haunted mansion

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Speaker 1: You know, they say there's real ghosts in there.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they be If I was a ghost, that's

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Speaker 2: where I go. There's always a party going on.

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Speaker 1: And that was absolutely and I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: You can like pop out and nobody would know the difference.

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Speaker 1: And you're just like you could just be yourself, let

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Speaker 2: I've never seen that ghost before, Daddy. That ghost over

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Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Please, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay, Doug Benson.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I do is I go to eBay dot

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Speaker 1: I'd like you to meet Mildred, who is going for

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Speaker 1: us this haunted doll? You got it? Ras there, she Joe.

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Speaker 1: Whoa she is silly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a doll that kind of has her

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Speaker 2: I don't know what her terrible haircut.

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Speaker 1: Her hair is a mess. She absolutely got that supercuts

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Speaker 1: Then she just froze like that forever. Yeah. So here's

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Let's get to the good stuff here.

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Speaker 1: Here's some of the stuff you can you'll witness if

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much about her. This is definitely one that

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Speaker 1: people listening go to ghosted by Roz on Instagram to

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Speaker 1: take a look at her and her bangs. Doug, can

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Speaker 1: I play you some ghost voices? Yes, it's time for

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Speaker 1: EVP or ev pase have you ever heard the term EVP?

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Speaker 1: Electronic Voice Phenomena show that's SPU. This is EVP okay,

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Speaker 1: So basically, it's anytime somebody captures a ghost speaking a

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Speaker 1: The words, it's so clear you can't tell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Shut up, you bitch.

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Speaker 1: Shut up, bitch, you bitch. Listen. That's not a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: I gotta hear it. I think you were born for

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Speaker 1: this job, just for the top you want. They did

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Speaker 1: are awful, so awful. See I want waffles please? Or

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Speaker 1: I mean it's you think it's b you are awful,

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00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: so awful.

434
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: I don't know they.

435
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: Believe it is.

436
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: I don't hear that.

437
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: They think it's a there are demons.

438
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: Let's hear it again. With that in mind, I can't sell.

439
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I hear too. Now, okay, here's one more.

440
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: This one is from Paranormal Adventures. Uk h, what is

441
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: it saying, Doug? I don't know where this is from either?

442
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Where are these? Okay? Here we go. It's a British castle,

443
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: probably a castle. Okay, this one's different. It's a little

444
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: bit more whispery.

445
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I see sounds like a seal flapping around in

446
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: a grotto.

447
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a Oh? Look at her,

448
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: that diva? Do they think it was b I'm about

449
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: to be fainting. See, don't look here painting or d

450
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: it's me Fanny lines.

451
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm back. I'm gonna go and see because it's such weird,

452
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: strange sentence structure.

453
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: Don't look here painting. That is what they thought. Okay,

454
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: wait a sc let's listen for that now.

455
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: I heard painting that time. Yeah, but there's something there's

456
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: another noise going on this way.

457
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's definitely a seal flopping

458
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: around a grotto, and then there's don't look now painting.

459
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: It's also happening.

460
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: Here it again? Please all right?

461
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like that movie Andre Is that what it

462
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: was called? The Seal movie from the nineties. Yeah, that's

463
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: happening while somebody's whispering about a painting. Let's do another

464
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: thing here, o quark, What about Bigfoot? What do you think?

465
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: I wish I wish there was a big I wish

466
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: we'd find him, learn his likes and dislikes.

467
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: Well, he clearly doesn't like to be bothered.

468
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: If he is. No, I'm kind of happy that. I'm

469
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: happy with the idea that there's a Bigfoot who's gotten

470
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: away with not being caught. That's or you've seen for

471
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: a long period of time.

472
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: If that's true, that's to commit to that and just

473
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: give the people just enough, just a little, you know,

474
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: not too much.

475
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: Wow, he shaves for the summer. Who knows.

476
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 1: That's interesting and that's a new theory.

477
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: He walks, he walks abongst us. Yeah, he probably.

478
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: Well apparently in here's an article from November of this

479
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: past year. Uh, he was seen in South Carolina. It

480
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: says here, according to a new report. This is from

481
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: UH the State, which is not the company group The

482
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: the State dot com is a local news source. Okay.

483
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: So it says, according to a new report, the urban

484
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: legend also called Sasquatch was seen on November second. Now,

485
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: there was a big football game going on. It's between

486
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: football USC's forty four and twenty home game win over

487
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. It says. The report makes no

488
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: mention of Bigfoot wearing any game cocks apparel. I think

489
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: that's a local joke, a little hilarious, yeah, commentary. So anyway,

490
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: it says a witness that refers to himself as j

491
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: M identified himself as a police officer. He reported the

492
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: sighting on November six to Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, which

493
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: was founded in nineteen ninety five. Okay. Now, this organization's founder,

494
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: whose name is Matthew Moneymaker, he did a follow up

495
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: investigation and found that the report was indeed credible.

496
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay.

497
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: He's also Moneymaker is also a co host of the

498
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: show Finding Bigfoot. Okay. So basically the story is that

499
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: the witness says that he was deer hunting and he

500
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: was sitting in a ground blind is that a hunting thing?

501
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

502
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: I guess like a almost.

503
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: Like a where you're hiding so that you could.

504
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you're like a trench in the battlefield

505
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

506
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't like that. He heard a loud, deep toned

507
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: grunt and a stomp at the same time. Not a grunt.

508
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't like grunts. He turned around and he saw

509
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: an approximately seven to seven point five foot tall, brown

510
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: human life shape through all of the brush. It had

511
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: long brown hair, ape like face, and long arms. I'm

512
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: a police officer and had no clue what to make

513
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: of it, he says. At this point, as much as

514
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: I didn't want to admit it, I'm convinced I saw bigfoot.

515
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: That's the thing with all these stories. Anytime it's a cop,

516
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: it's like, well, this person's a cop, they wouldn't lie.

517
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: Something that I think they're relying on with the story

518
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: is the fact that the guy's a cop, because we

519
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: get that with ghost stories too. All the time. The

520
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: cops came and they said they also saw the thing,

521
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well there cops, Like the cops

522
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: never lied, like whatever. Not to get political, but yeah,

523
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: so bigfoot.

524
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: There sworn to, you know, be honest. When they see

525
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: anything unusual, anything paranormal or Bigfoot.

526
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: Like definite off the clock shooting.

527
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: They protect and serve, and serve. They protect us from

528
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: Bigfoot and serve Bigfoot hot lunch every day. I keep

529
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: if Bigfoot's not out there, then what are the police

530
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: protecting us from? So they work. They're in cahoots. The

531
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: police and Bigfoot are working together to keep us scared.

532
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Big Foot. There we go, Doug, Yes, just a couple

533
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: of rapid fire questions and then I'll let you out

534
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: of here.

535
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: Drink first.

536
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm just curious your thoughts on a couple of different

537
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: paranormal phenomenal Maybe it'll inspire. Maybe you go, oh, actually

538
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: I have a story. Maybe not no pressure psychics. Mm.

539
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: I think most of them are running some scam, But

540
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: again I don't. Sometimes it's pretty amazing the things psychics

541
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: will say. But you know, I've never personally had an

542
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: amazing psychic experience.

543
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: Have you been to psychics?

544
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: I've tried it a couple of times. You know, I

545
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: get a carnival or like Hollywood Boulevard or something like that,

546
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: you know, getting my palm red, you know, and sometimes

547
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: you also just meet somebody, especially in La who says

548
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: they know how to read palms or do tarot cards,

549
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: so you mess with that. But that all just seems like,

550
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 2: you know, just sort of guesswork, right.

551
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: What about Ouiji boards?

552
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: I haven't had too much success with a Wiji board.

553
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: I haven't ever really felt like I connected with something.

554
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: But people do seem sure love to put their hand

555
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: on there and push it around, like especially in a

556
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: movie where they're like they'll put their hands on and

557
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: they're going hy e s. Yeah, you know, like really quick,

558
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: like to me, if it's real, it's just gonna be

559
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: very subtle little movements. Yeah, but again it's a bunch

560
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: of people with their hands on it that all have

561
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: different agendas.

562
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Where are you from? My gun?

563
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: San Diego?

564
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so did you did you grow up with any

565
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: local urban legends or anything like that? Ooh, there's like

566
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: a scary road in San Diego area that I can't

567
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: remember the story of, but it's like a scary road

568
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: where like there's like creatures come out at night. I

569
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: don't know one of those things.

570
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: There's this one street by my high school in uh

571
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: the El cahoone part of San Diego where there's like

572
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: this old motel and it was just sort of they

573
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: put this freeway in and it just sort of became

574
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: like it's it's a little area that was kind of secluded,

575
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: but we'd walk by it sometimes to get to the

576
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: high school. But everybody would always talk about how it

577
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: appeared to be like there was a noose hanging from

578
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: a tree outside of this hotel. So everybody had their

579
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: own version of what was going on with that. But

580
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: I always just felt like maybe it was just a

581
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: branch or a piece of rope that that kind of

582
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: looked like a noose, Okay, but still just the idea

583
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: of it is pretty, uh, pretty scary.

584
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: That is spooky. I know a lot of well see

585
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: some of the iconic haunted places in San Diego. So

586
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: there's the Whaley House. You ever been there? Whaley House

587
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: is in like old town.

588
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: That sounds right.

589
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: It's been a minute since I've been there, but I

590
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: feel like it's one of those places where all the

591
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: people that dress their dressed like in the time period.

592
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and yeah, and they like give you like

593
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: guided tours.

594
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: It sounds familiar. It just sounds like something I wouldn't

595
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: have been into the older I got and I don't

596
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: know if high school. Do you think they went on

597
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: field trips to this place, like a field trip, Yes,

598
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: I might have. I definitely went to like all the

599
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: museums in San Diego on field trips. And every Halloween

600
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: the Prehistoric Museum would do a haunted museum where you

601
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: walk through the whole thing, but the whole thing is

602
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 2: already all caveman statues, so you turn off all the lights.

603
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 2: Now you got a haunted you know, a haunted house

604
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: slash museum. But I always thought that was such a

605
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: weird thing to do in a museum, is to take

606
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: these pieces that are supposed to be like educational or

607
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: artifacts and then just go, yeah, but just this is scary.

608
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: If the lights are.

609
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: Off, throw them in the pillory.

610
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've been pillaried. I think they had

611
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: one like in Williamsburg or something when I went on

612
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: a field trip to Washington, d C. I think they

613
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: had because they have the people churning butter and stuff

614
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 2: like what you were just saying, say about the Wailey House.

615
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that kind of thing.

616
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: So wild.

617
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: And then do you like see the person on their break,

618
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: like on their phone, or like smoking a cigarette.

619
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: Always smoking a cigarette.

620
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: Well, Doug, that's it, that's it. That was it, quick

621
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: and easy. Yeah, where do people find you? What's going on?

622
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: Do you?

623
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Guys? I feel like you do like a bajillion different things.

624
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: I do have a bunch of shows they do locally

625
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: in LA but also out on the road. Benson Movie Interruption,

626
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: Douglas Movies, and Douglavesmovies. Dot com is where all of

627
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: my dates are, so they can just go there and

628
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: see all the things I'm up to.

629
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: Wait, here's the question. What about when people say a

630
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: movie is cursed? That's true? You know, people say that

631
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: about some of these.

632
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: Things they do, they say it about. You know, I've

633
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: seen lots of things be you know, people say their cursed,

634
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, for you know, one reason or another. But

635
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: like one that springs to mind is the the Poltergeist films. Yes,

636
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: like somebody from each Poltergeist film dies, but all under

637
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: different circumstances. So you can either say that that's the

638
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: curse is spreading the wealth, or you could say that

639
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: it's just a unfortunate coincidence. Do you know.

640
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: My favorite one is it's been a minute since I've

641
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: talked about this on the pod A Tuk a Tuk

642
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: a t Uk Do.

643
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: You know about this is a movie?

644
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: It was a movie script. It was a kind of

645
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: like a fish shot of water comedy film script. I

646
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: always get this a little bit confused, but essentially it

647
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: was written for I want to say, John Belushi or

648
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: John Candy.

649
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: So both of those sound legit.

650
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: It was written for one of them, and it was

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Speaker 1: a supposed to be that he was like an indigenous

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Speaker 1: and it's like he's trying to you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Robin Williams in Moscow on the Hudson.

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Speaker 1: Very that so any and they say that anybody that

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Speaker 2: Oh so that's why both those guys did die.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole long list of them that they say,

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Speaker 2: I mean those were you know, Lucy and Candy lived

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Speaker 2: I could see why they were all young.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, on that note, what a fun, fun finish.

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