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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to car Stories with some King

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Speaker 1: and Amelia Hartford. Amilia, I have to ask you a question, yes,

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Speaker 1: before we get to our next guest. So my wife

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Speaker 1: and I we got in a pretty big argument, and

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Speaker 1: I want to hear another female's perspective on this. So

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Speaker 1: I was traveling for a few months, right, and during

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Speaker 1: the travels, I ran out of underwear, okay, And then

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Speaker 1: I was living out of a hotel. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've ever done laundry at a hotel. It's

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Speaker 1: like highway robbery. What they charge you for it's.

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Speaker 2: Insane third prices. I usually try to find like a

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Speaker 2: local laundromat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just didn't have the time to do that,

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Speaker 1: but I do. Just I have a problem paying that

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Speaker 1: kind of money to like.

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Speaker 2: It's like a five dollars repair underwars sometimes more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just stopped wearing underwear, and my wife

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Speaker 1: thinks it's disgusting. But then I tell her, I go, well,

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Speaker 1: it's like I stop boring underwear, but I do wash

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Speaker 1: the pants and I think of it, and then I

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Speaker 1: thought about it. It's like, why does a guy I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna speak for men. It's like why do I

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Speaker 1: need underwear? What is the point of it? So is

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Speaker 1: that discuss She's like, that's gross, that's disgusting, that's I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here as your double story. I'm thinking, like, huh,

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Speaker 2: do guys even really need underwear exactly? What's the purpose

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Speaker 2: of it?

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Speaker 1: What are boxers? They're like shorts. They're like shorts at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, right, So what do I

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Speaker 1: need underwear for?

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Speaker 2: Unless you're wearing sheer pants? This is gonna get gross.

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Speaker 2: But I know some guys just pull their boxers and

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Speaker 2: don't like white.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well look and all the guys, well, you

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Speaker 1: know guys that do that. I don't do that. I'm

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Speaker 1: not one of those guys. If you have that habit, sure,

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Speaker 1: I understand the purpose of underwear. But otherwise, would you

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Speaker 1: get in an argument with your like future husband or

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Speaker 1: significant other because he's not wearing underwear and he's clean

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Speaker 1: an argument? No.

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Speaker 2: I want to be like, yeah, why wouldn't you wear underwear?

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Speaker 2: But as we're having this conversation, I'm struggling to see

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Speaker 2: the point.

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Speaker 1: Of what I mean, right, Because I was like, explain

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Speaker 1: to me why I need under It's like, well, that's gross,

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Speaker 1: and that's the that's the reason why I need underwork

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Speaker 1: because it's gross, Like who invented this thing called underwear?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why, yeah, do I even need it?

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Speaker 2: Right? It's restrictive, especially if it's just like boxers, not

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Speaker 2: something to like support.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I started doing a lot of running, right,

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Speaker 1: like like mid distance running. I don't wear underwear really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's it's a constrictive. You're all like blushing

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Speaker 1: was a question thinking of the anatomy.

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Speaker 2: Of like, well, if you're running, wouldn't you want something

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Speaker 2: to support? Because I know, as a woman, I like

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Speaker 2: to wear sports bross. I don't need something bouncing around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. But then yeah, I guess, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think I need that, Okay, Yeah, because I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to prove her point, I'm like le's laundry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you're known as the guy who doesn't

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Speaker 2: want underwear.

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't know who's going to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone listening this podcast?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I have nothing to hide. But seriously, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: come on, listeners, like everyone like think about it. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, obviously, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I'm struggling to see the point of it, I understand

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Speaker 3: why a woman, a female would need underwear like this

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Speaker 3: if there's she's wearing a skirt or dressed like you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't what it's concealing things, right, But then what

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Speaker 3: does a dude need that for?

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Speaker 1: Right, It's like I'm wearing pants nine point percent of

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Speaker 2: Right, as long as you trust your parts, I guess.

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Speaker 1: What, it's going to spray things and you're wearing pants,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right, So you are you pro underwear.

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Speaker 2: Or I'm gonna say I'm pronorb but I agree that

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Speaker 1: With my argument that it's unnecessary depending on your level

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how long does you like wash your clothes?

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Speaker 1: And yeah I want to smell. Look, there's no issues

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Speaker 2: Good, all right, God we got that out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So next on to our next guest.

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Speaker 2: Today, we have our good friend RJ. Devera. When I

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Speaker 2: think car industry, I think of Argent And it was

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Speaker 2: really cool to get to hear stories about the fact

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Speaker 2: that his mom had a turboed mini van that she

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Speaker 2: used to drag race.

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Speaker 3: What.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really wonderful to hear how close he

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Speaker 1: is with his mother and how impactful she was to

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Speaker 1: where RJ is today within the car community. In the

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Speaker 1: car industry, RJ.

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Speaker 2: Was at the Guires for years and now he's at

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Speaker 2: SEAM of the nonprofit which if you guys don't know

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Speaker 2: about SEMA, they are basically the nation lorgest trade show

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Speaker 2: when it comes to automotive and they also helped to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I met RJ because he lent me his famous

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Speaker 1: essex way before the Fast and Furious days, and I

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Speaker 1: used a little bit of his swagger even in the

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Speaker 1: Han character because I was like, this guy is super cool.

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Speaker 1: But to actually sit down with them get to know

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Speaker 1: the man behind the myth was really awesome.

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Speaker 2: And he actually had a feature in the Fast franchise

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Speaker 2: as well. That's right aout further Ado, r jaa Vera.

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Speaker 1: RJ, Hey, r JA dea vera.

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Speaker 5: What's going on? Thanks for having me, Thanks.

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Speaker 2: For coming on.

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Speaker 1: When people talk about RJ, your mother always comes up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And it's something that I've always like, admired and envied

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Speaker 1: about you that you have such a deep connection. Thanks

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Speaker 1: those relationship to your mother.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm my mama's boy for sure. You know, I

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Speaker 5: love her dearly. I wouldn't be who I am without her.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, in the nine you know, when my parents

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Speaker 5: got divorced, he decided to come hang out with with

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Speaker 5: to battle the imports with us. And then one day

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Speaker 5: she woke me up and she's like, hey, can we

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Speaker 5: She's like, yeah, I'm getting bored just hanging out with

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Speaker 5: you guys, Like I want to go drag racing with

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Speaker 5: you guys. I'm like, okay, Sure, it was a Honda

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Speaker 1: It was still a minivan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't a Siena, but it was a minivan.

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Speaker 5: So anytime anyone turbo charges a minivan, I always kind

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Speaker 5: of get some nostalgic feelings, like Besi's Odyssey and stuff.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, we painted it yellow for her fiftieth I remember.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm like shook. I didn't know your mom

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Speaker 5: It wasn't fast, but she was really good on bracket racing,

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Speaker 5: so I taught her how to power I can build

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Speaker 2: I want to meet your mom.

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Speaker 1: Let's have the coolest mom ever, right yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was really fun. But yeah, she would

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Speaker 5: and they're like, dude, I just last year mom in

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Speaker 5: I will never raise my mom. She'll definitely beat me

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Speaker 5: because her dial in was like on the money, like

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Speaker 5: a tenth every time.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's super cool.

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Speaker 1: I read that you guys started selling car parts out

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Speaker 1: of the condo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she still lives in that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so she's just she's a great example of, you know,

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, I'm not really fixing anything. She's like,

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, well, there's this whole thing going on

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Speaker 5: what parts? And I'm like, well, springs and rowbars and intakes,

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Speaker 5: So I just made flyers with car ports on it,

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Speaker 5: all these like performance sports. And a guy worked with

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Speaker 5: he's like, oh, just get a business license and I

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Speaker 5: was like, well, how do you do that. He's like, well,

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Speaker 5: you go down to this state Board of Equalization office

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Speaker 5: and I was like, well, how old do you have

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Speaker 1: Wait.

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Speaker 2: That's so intimidating for so many people to do, and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like that's anything that's prevented you in

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Speaker 2: business license, like I would be a little intimidated of

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Speaker 2: that process.

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Speaker 1: Hustle would go get it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you have a camera which I didn't

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Speaker 1: like like some car thing. This is way before fast

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Speaker 1: I was like, where do we get a car? Right,

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Speaker 1: Like who's gonna let us follow that? We have no money?

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Speaker 1: And then you showed up at your car okay, right,

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Speaker 1: And then he shows up and I was I tell

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Speaker 5: Yeah, time that I had. Actually, there's a story about that.

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Speaker 1: What color was that car?

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Speaker 5: Like it was red, it was candy apple red, then

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Speaker 5: it was a color shift paint. Then it was.

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Speaker 1: Silver, silver, we got to win silver, and it was orange.

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Speaker 5: That was the last six colors. Too many. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But he was the first like cool Asian car dude

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Speaker 1: but it's so cool.

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Speaker 2: That was your That was your directorial debut.

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Speaker 1: You realized it and we finished it, like you know,

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Speaker 1: we cut it. It took forever because it was it was

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Speaker 5: I remember those days.

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Speaker 5: Actually because I always wanted and even me now probably

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Speaker 5: what do you need? You know, like you need a car,

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Speaker 2: That's funny because that's how I know you today. You're

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Speaker 2: still very much like that. I try to make it like,

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Speaker 5: Especially if it's like paving away or giving someone an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: I just loved to get involved. So being part of

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Speaker 1: Let's back up, how did you get involved in Fast? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I was initially like casult with Craig Lieberman, the other

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Speaker 5: I have this really young, y, happy twenty year old

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Speaker 5: You should come meet him. And then they were like, hey,

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Speaker 5: well you want to help us? And I literally thought

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Speaker 5: And they're like, no, we're serious. I okay, you're sure.

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Speaker 5: trying to get Vin's character to drive the NSX, but

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Speaker 1: Same car, same car. Well who made that kid?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, hopefully you get to meet him one day.

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Speaker 5: some friends to rent a van to drive us out

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00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 5: to his shot and then I shot it for a feature.

437
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 5: And then the next year I came back and I'm like, hey,

438
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 5: remember me. I worked for the small little magazine in

439
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 5: the US. And people were already knocking his stuff off

440
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 5: in the US, and he was like RJ, like in Japan,

441
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 5: this is shameful, and I'm like I understand, but people

442
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 5: want your stuff and they can't get it. And they're like,

443
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 5: I'm going to fly to the US and you're gonna

444
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 5: help me. And I was like sure, Okay, so I

445
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 5: actually helped him start as US when he had the

446
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 5: US offices back here back then, which is how we

447
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 5: got all the parts for the movie, because I was like, Hey,

448
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 5: there's this movie that's happening. We need some parts. And

449
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 5: he's like, what do you need. I'm like, well, we

450
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 5: need RC seven kids and S two thousand kids. He's like,

451
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 5: do you need wheels. I'm like, yes, we need wheels.

452
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 5: Send that to and so that's how we ended up

453
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 5: in the movie. WHOA Yeah, but he was.

454
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

455
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 5: He was a mentor for me, and everyone talks about

456
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 5: their mentors, so he was definitely one of them.

457
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I never knew that.

458
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 5: Or Jay, he's super a jail. Like, there's so many

459
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 5: cars that I built that ended up on the covers

460
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 5: of magazines, and they did because he would always send

461
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 5: me the first so he'd like, Oh, here's my new

462
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 5: S two thousand, here's my new Millennium Edition S two

463
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 5: thousand kit. I'm going to send you on go build

464
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 5: a car. Or here's the m R two Fortune Model kit.

465
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 5: I'm going to send you one, and.

466
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 2: This while you were at Superstreight.

467
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 5: It was while I was kind of like a roving

468
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 5: editor at Superstreet. Yeah, and still doing you know, selling

469
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 5: body kits and other parts. And then started the wheel line.

470
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if you know this. I had a

471
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 5: wheel line that was named after me for about seven years,

472
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 5: which is a lot of fun.

473
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: Really uh huh.

474
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: So those are probably collector items now, it's fine.

475
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 5: I didn't keep it. I don't have one single wall right.

476
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: If anyone's listening, who has what did you?

477
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 5: If you have a Roja Motorsport wheel, I would love

478
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 5: to like have one.

479
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: Got to bring those back, man.

480
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was.

481
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 5: It was a good era in my life. I was

482
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 5: very blessed, very fortunate. Like I remember the wheel deal

483
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 5: specifically where I had helped the company American Racing develop

484
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 5: their new import line which is still rounds called Multagi Racing,

485
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 5: and then they were like, hey, RJ like, have you

486
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 5: ever thought of having your own line? And they created

487
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 5: a mock up and the center caps at RJD wheels,

488
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 5: which I felt I just about fell like out of

489
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 5: my chair laughing because I was super into like the

490
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 5: JDM stuff like racing hard SSR and I could never

491
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 5: imagine someone like wanting to buy a wheel that had

492
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 5: like RJD. I remember driving home one day and I

493
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 5: was like, you know, even if it did suck, it

494
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 5: just be cool. And this is probably in the mid

495
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 5: early two thousands, right before the first movie. I got

496
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 5: back and I'm like, hey, guys, like I'm down, Like

497
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 5: you can't call it RJD because that sounds really lame,

498
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 5: Like it's your it's your line. You make it whatever

499
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 5: you want, you know, I'm like.

500
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.

501
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 5: And that started that whole kind of line of wheels

502
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 5: for about seven years.

503
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: That's a long time. Yeah, it had a good run.

504
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 1: I like what you just said. There was like self

505
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: doubt about like who's who, Who's gonna want these wheels?

506
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: But let's give it a try, right, you know, it's

507
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: like these for in our head. I'm very guilty of it.

508
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 1: And that's something that I'm always conscious of and trying

509
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: to like overcome going I'd like to try this. I'd

510
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: like to you know, write this, or direct this, or

511
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: even my first, like you know movie I directed. Right

512
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: the whole time, it was all these voices like who

513
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: are you doing direct?

514
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 5: What do you know?

515
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: You have no talent?

516
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Imposter syndrome.

517
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna bomb, it's gonna flop. It's

518
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna lose money and you'll never be able

519
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: to do this again. And even after I finished it,

520
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: it was like constant voices like it sucks, it sucks,

521
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: it sucks. And then it comes out and it's like

522
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: it sucks, it sucks, it sucks. And then all of

523
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: a sudden one day you like step back and you go,

524
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it didn't want to Oscar or it

525
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: didn't do all that, but you know, it sets you

526
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: up and you learn so much. Yeah right, And the

527
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: most important thing I learned was that even if it

528
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 1: doesn't didn't win awards and doesn't have the same successes

529
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: as like the big block busters, it made me realize

530
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: that I have so much gratitude that I could just

531
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: even do that. Yeah, to be in a place to go, hey,

532
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, you want to go make a movie, you

533
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: want to direct a movie. It actually happened, yeah right,

534
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: And then the voices kind of calm down and you're like, hey,

535
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: shut up, voices, just go and do. And the lesson

536
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: that I try to like convey here is that you

537
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: got to shut those voices down. You just got to

538
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: do it right.

539
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: I heard something this morning and I don't know who

540
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: it came from, so I don't want to misquote, but

541
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: it was one day or day one.

542
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: It's your choice, so simple.

543
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but like so much there at the

544
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: same time.

545
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, because if you don't start, it never happens.

546
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: But I hear that through line in your story. A

547
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 2: lot even you know, get in the business license of

548
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: just going after it and getting it. It doesn't seem

549
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: or do you have many thoughts that are similar to

550
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: what sung saying of imposter syndrome or maybe doubt? Do

551
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: you ever doubt yourself?

552
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: I definitely have the voices I think, like a lot

553
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 5: of people do, write down you know that doubt and

554
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 5: whether am I capable of doing this? You know what

555
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 5: gives me the right to try this? You know? Will

556
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 5: it resonate with anyone? I think that's a lot of

557
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 5: people deal with that, right. I'd like to say, probably

558
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 5: bury it pretty good. We're like, oh, wow, what's the

559
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 5: worst that can happen? And I think I was really

560
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 5: blessed and fortunate that at a at a fairly young age,

561
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 5: I was able to do that and things were somewhat successful, right.

562
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 5: The movie did well, Super Sheet did well, so I

563
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 5: worked on projects. I worked on forts and motorsports that

564
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 5: did well, and so I was really like, oh to

565
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 5: your point, like you look back, You're like I did

566
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 5: pretty good, you know, and so you get you gain

567
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 5: more confidence, and it's kind of I'm sure your your

568
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 5: first YouTube video to the one you just posted, if.

569
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: You go back and watch huge growth, right yeah.

570
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, because I mean it is it is

571
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 5: day one, you know, and so I've I've been really lucky,

572
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 5: and I think thee of us, you know, to be

573
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: able to do things where then you can look back

574
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: in hindsight, so the second time you do it, it's

575
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: a lot easier, and the third time it becomes like, oh,

576
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 5: I kind of know this cycle, you know, and so

577
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 5: you do have a lot more confidence, and then you

578
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 5: also fail, right I was, you know, I I after

579
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 5: the wheel line. I tried to do a whole performance

580
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 5: car line right around the one bubble bursts, and I

581
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 5: had investment and then I lost it. I was trying

582
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 5: to build a couple pro drag cars, went crazing a

583
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 5: debt on my mom's home equity and then had to

584
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 5: shut everything down, and the dream came collapsing down. And

585
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 5: it was probably some of the toughest time in my life,

586
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 5: and it took me seven or eight years to kind

587
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 5: of pay back this this loan. Luckily it was a

588
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 5: home loan. So but this fear that I was going

589
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 5: to lose like our small little condo, you know, chasing

590
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 5: this dream and having this gratitude to my mom for

591
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 5: even allowing me to like do that. But that was

592
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 5: an experience and you grow from it and then you

593
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 5: learn like, well, failure's just a part of it, you know,

594
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: and just about getting up and getting back on the bike.

595
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: Right.

596
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: So I think that's that's where that imposter syndrome can

597
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 5: really hold you down, if you hold on too much

598
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 5: to the things that didn't go well, yeah, you know,

599
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: versus like, well that didn't go well, what did I learn? Okay,

600
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: that hurts. I'm gonna let it hurt, and then I'm

601
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 5: gonna move on.

602
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: And just because it didn't go well last time doesn't

603
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: mean it's not gonna go well again.

604
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 5: So so I think that's if I could impart anything

605
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: on anyone, you know, I would agree with you. Just

606
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 5: they want to just go just go for it, you know,

607
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: and no matter what happens, it's not the end of

608
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: the world life goes on.

609
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for sharing that. I mean, I think a

610
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of people look at you. He is a dude

611
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: that every that everything goes right. And then to just

612
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: share that you had to take like a loan out

613
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: from your mom's condo where it all started.

614
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: It all.

615
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well obviously, I mean all that wealth of knowledge

616
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: is you know, valuable to the industry, the car industry

617
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: too today because now you're at SEMA.

618
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, so it's it's come around full circle,

619
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: you know. Like my first two main events that I

620
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 5: went to outside of the import car shows were Autoslon

621
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 5: and SEMA back in ninety six. I had so I

622
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 5: took you Autuslan for those listening, which is there's a

623
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 5: couple events that I think if you're a car enthusiast

624
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: you have to go to Tokiautoslan is one of them,

625
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: Festival of Speed is another, SEMA Show is another, and

626
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: Monterey Carweek. It was like to me those four like

627
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 5: if you love cars like you gotta go to those four.

628
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: But SEMA, I haven't missed one since ninety six except

629
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: for the one that we didn't have, So this one

630
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: will be twenty seven years. So when I came to

631
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: work for the organization. It kind of felt like a homecoming.

632
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 5: The only the only thing that I had not done

633
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 5: going to the SEMA show was be part of the

634
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: team that put it together. I'd been you know, a builder, photographer,

635
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 5: small company host, bigger company hosts for like so many

636
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 5: things around the show. That just felt like natural that

637
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 5: I would be part of the team that helped, you know,

638
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 5: kind of puts it together and helps evolve it. And

639
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 5: just the organization, right, because many people think about SEMA,

640
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: they just think about the show, but the organization does

641
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: so much more for just the aftermarket companies and the

642
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 5: people that are involved in the industry.

643
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: So for the listeners that don't know what SEMA is like,

644
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: how would you describe it?

645
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: For Layman Tern, Well, it's some membership based organization or association,

646
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 5: but it also really looks out for the industry and

647
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 5: advocating for the industry.

648
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: Right.

649
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 5: We're doing a lot of work on the government front,

650
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 5: you know, to really advocate for, as an example, a

651
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: technology neutral future. There's a lot of proposals that by

652
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 5: twenty thirty five, everything that's sold news is going to

653
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: be ev and we feel and personally for myself too,

654
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 5: that it should be technology neutral. If people should be

655
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: allowed the choice to choose whether it's a synthetic fuel

656
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 5: or hydrogen or biofuel or EV or hybrid. That yeah,

657
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: the customer should have the choice, right, it shouldn't be mandated.

658
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 5: So let like innovation kind of you know, it's it's

659
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: the American story, you know, Let innovation like win over.

660
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 5: So we're doing things like that, and we do a

661
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 5: lot of product development testing and EPA and card compliance

662
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 5: for a lot of companies.

663
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: You're making it too too complicated organization to help and

664
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: support aftermarket.

665
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: Companies, yes, and the industry, yes, the automobile. Sorry, so

666
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: I got too deep. I just love it. I just

667
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 5: love what we stand for. We love working here, and

668
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: it's really really interesting to see like car culture like

669
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: move beyond just like national borders, right, and I think

670
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 5: Fast kind of did that too, you know, where like

671
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 5: it created as phenomena and just to be part of

672
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: that for me was was very fulfilling, really really fulfilling.

673
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: And so that's that's all I want to do now

674
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: is do things like that.

675
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: So do you think because of social media car culture

676
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: is going strong? Because you know, with ev sure, coming in.

677
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: There's always this argument, this notion about car culture dying,

678
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: but it seems like, you know, anytime I looked at it,

679
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: like Instagram or yeah, it's just it's all like maybe

680
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: it's my it's all I see.

681
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: I think I was on the brink of disappearing, to

682
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: be quite frank, after the recession. It felt like my

683
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 5: nephews as an example for me being who I am

684
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: and my nephew is not caring about cars is a

685
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: little bit crazy to me. But it's just not their deal.

686
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: Older they they're twenty five and twenty three, a super

687
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: into sports, super into gaming, but that's their deal.

688
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: They don't care about cars at all, not at all.

689
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: But it felt like during the risk, after the nine recession,

690
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 5: there's this debt, and then right around like twenty thirteen

691
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: or fourteen, I started to see young people again at

692
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: car meets and it would rattle off like car names

693
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 5: and horsepower, like the people that grew up in our

694
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 5: generation that played grants Arismo actually oddly enough and found

695
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 5: out about cars and come to find out because of

696
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: social media, because of mobile games like CSR Racing and

697
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: things of that nature. It was kind of coming back

698
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 5: in a different way though, you know, do I think

699
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: things will change. Absolutely if things become really all new

700
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: cars are evy, that's going to change things, you know.

701
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: But I think the love to personalize thing isn't and

702
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 5: I think that's where the difference is. Like maybe some

703
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: of the performance stuff changes, but this idea that you're

704
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: always going to want something that's personal in yours, I

705
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 5: think isn't going to go away. So that's what gives

706
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: me hope. And then of course what everybody's doing, you know,

707
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: the stuff that Emilia is doing, Dustin TJ, you name it, right,

708
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: all these people that are young and really diving into

709
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: it and showing that next generation. It's really cool to

710
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 5: see and I think it is helping at the end

711
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 5: of the day, Like I don't think we'd have as

712
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: much interest from the younger generation if people like Chamelia

713
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: weren't making her content and breaking the barriers that she's

714
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: braking early.

715
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: So absolutely, yeah.

716
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: I was watching this YouTube video but this car meet

717
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: in Texas, right, and this guy asking car owners like, hey,

718
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think about this car? You

719
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: should show a picture of like somebody's and a sex

720
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: and you know, give it a brating one to ten

721
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: and you go, that's a nine, that's a ten, And

722
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: there was you know the ten people I saw. There

723
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: was I think one Asian dude. Everybody was like Texan

724
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: like you know, good old boy like Americans, but everyone

725
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: was driving. I think I saw one hell cat. Everybody

726
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: was driving JDM. Yeah, and it made me realize something.

727
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: It's like through the car culture, this thing of like inclusion, diversity, right,

728
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: understanding other cultures, like for us to be accepted people

729
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: that you that look like you and I. The cars

730
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: are taking care of that for us because you know,

731
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: when Japanese cars are so beloved, it's not a thing anymore.

732
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: There used to be this term called rice rocket. Even

733
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: five years ago. Man, there was like these Maverick guys

734
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: from good old boys, and they kept calling my Maverck

735
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: like a rice rocket, and I was like, what is

736
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: that term? Rice rocket? Right? The thing has gone now

737
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: they're just like heay man, that's a dope ass car,

738
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: right right, And it's pretty beautiful to see that that,

739
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: you know, the car culture JDM culture becoming so like

740
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: global actually helps like people get along better, you know,

741
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: and it fights racism. It was just like fascinating, like

742
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, likezation I had's.

743
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: I never thought of it.

744
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Ten years ago, these good old boys would be in

745
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: like you know, American Iron and they look at a

746
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: in the hegra type bar is like a rice rocket.

747
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: They're like, why would I drive that? Or they look

748
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: at that Corolla. It's like why would I drive that

749
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: little Corolla? But now that is like pretty cool everybody's pocket. Yeah,

750
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: it's it's changed for sure. I think for bring a trailer,

751
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: Like the fastest growing segment is eighties and nineties JDM cars.

752
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there's this bond that people start to have

753
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: when you're like, oh you're you're a carn thesist. Like

754
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: we're the same people, you know. And it happens in

755
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 5: different cultures, right, I are other things like food or

756
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: sneaker culture or whatever, but car culture is one of them.

757
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 5: You travel around the world and it could be completely different.

758
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 5: Like I've never seen this car, like I used to

759
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 5: go to France. I'm like, what is that poujo?

760
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: Like?

761
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: But it's tuned in the same way. It's got deep

762
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 5: job and stereo and wheels, and you're like, you're my people.

763
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: I called out my found family because I always say

764
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: wherever travel. I know, I have a family there, and

765
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: you don't even need to speak the same language. Like

766
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: when I was at Tokyoto San, I was using the

767
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: translator app to just communicate about the modifications that have

768
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: been done to certain cars, and I at one point

769
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: I took a step back and screenshot it because I

770
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: was like, this is pretty cool. Yeah, we don't speak

771
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: the same language, but at the same time, we do

772
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: and we're talking it. And that's cars.

773
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: I am curious, like, what are you guys looking to

774
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 5: do next car wise? But you got Project Base, Yeah,

775
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: you got your thirty four.

776
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably going to be my next project.

777
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

778
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: I also have this Replica Superbird that it came across

779
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: that I'm kind of going through the planning stages of

780
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: right now. And yeah, a few few cars on my horizon,

781
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: but my biggest focus right now is getting the FTR

782
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: on a container and back out here to the States.

783
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: What about you.

784
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: I have a it's actually a eighty five Grand National

785
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: roller found in the desert. I have a stock which

786
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: you have a Grand National team. I love this. I

787
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: love wow you sold it? Yeah, well so I just

788
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: love the Gea bodies. And then Nissan they're supporting us,

789
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: and they send over enough car for me to take

790
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: all the pieces out. So Nissan sent me a R

791
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: thirty five with a v R thirty eight motorow So

792
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: that imagine a R thirty five g t are having

793
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: a baby with a Buick Grand National and the King

794
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: Kudo comes out.

795
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 5: I think you're so good. And Daniel like best names

796
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 5: for cars.

797
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: So hey, I'm doing it with Daniel because we have

798
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: students Ordan together. Yeah yeah. So then it's actually just

799
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: sitting in the garage now, so we just got to

800
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: get to it. It's been a busy last year. I'd

801
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: love to send it to Tokyo Auto Salon and just

802
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: leave it there because you know, Japanese love American cars, yes, right,

803
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: and then as an egent, a real Grand National and

804
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: the heart is Japanese car, which is like so awesome, right,

805
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: So King Kudo that's sweet with like watanabase. Imagine like

806
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: the vision is like big fat waase right with the

807
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: rocket bunny kid on it, right, and it's all these

808
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: little like the door handles are from the gtr okay, right,

809
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna use it a little bit yeah together yeah,

810
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: so it's like it's like if a Grand National and

811
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: a GTR had a baby, the King Kudo would come out.

812
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: So it's a biracial car.

813
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for this project. Yeah, that's a really

814
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: rad Is yours going to be the S two k?

815
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

816
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: It's almost done actually for us for what I wanted

817
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 5: it done.

818
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: What were you doing to it? You just got this

819
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 2: car a couple of months ago.

820
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 5: No, no, it's been two years almost. It's pretty stoked

821
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 5: about it because I kind of the thought was if

822
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 5: I was going to make an S T thousand, if

823
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 5: Fast and Fears was just coming out, Now, how wide

824
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: I build it? And so that's what this car is.

825
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 5: It's kind of a little bit of a tribute building. Yeah.

826
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 5: So I've been driving it around a lot of about

827
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 5: four months ago. I just haven't taken it to track,

828
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 5: which will be the next thing.

829
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: So since I have you here, this is a good

830
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: good person to talk.

831
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: Not the underwear thing.

832
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, okay, that's past topic. So since you

833
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: were part of the first Fast and now we're at Fast, Yeah,

834
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: where do you think the Fast franchise can go or

835
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: should go? Or should it even go any longer? Because

836
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean now that we're literally in space.

837
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: You're all avengers at this point.

838
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so how do we make it better? If

839
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 1: you were too?

840
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's better. I mean I do feel.

841
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Like, what's it what? What does it need to to

842
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: put some gas in the tank?

843
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean what you did there?

844
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, unintended? And you've got cars in a piero in space,

845
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 5: which is pretty hilarious actually, and cars getting picked up

846
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 5: by jets. It's like, okay, Like it feels like it's

847
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 5: run its course as that, and it almost feels like

848
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 5: a prequel could be an avenue, but it's a completely

849
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 5: different story, and it's back to cars, you know, at

850
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 5: least as a car fan, Like I still watched the

851
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: franchise knowing like it's gonna be a spy movie, you

852
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: know at the end of the day, right, and with

853
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: a lot of explosions and cars that flip over and

854
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 5: keep driving like fifty million times, which is funny because

855
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 5: we used to make fun of the first one like

856
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 5: oh there were like twelve thousand.

857
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: Shifts, granny shifting not double.

858
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: And all the words right that they had us actually

859
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 5: like a side tangent. Craig and I created a bunch

860
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 5: of words on a sheet and they just started putting

861
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 5: stuff in spoonoaterer with like these six turbo was like

862
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 5: those those don't don't go together. No one's gonna know,

863
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: No one's gonna know. But it just feels like it's

864
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: it's just so over the top. Now, like how do

865
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 5: you bring it back? Like kind of like Bond. Bond

866
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 5: got super over the top when I forget who the

867
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 5: action director was, where like you were people were shot

868
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 5: at and they were like ever getting hit and then

869
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 5: you went to the like the current version of Bond,

870
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 5: which was way more raw, right physical, and I feel

871
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 5: like the franchise could do that. And so that that's

872
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: just Party of one if it was going to go anywhere,

873
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 5: and maybe it needs to sunset and something else come up.

874
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 5: The Grand Tourisma movie was a great movie. It approached

875
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 5: car culture in a different way. I mean, yeah, it's

876
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 5: gaming culture and car and more racing culture, right, but

877
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 5: Grand Sarisma was such a big part of why car

878
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: culture became what it was because like, no one knows

879
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 5: what the hell spoon Civic was until they paid grants

880
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: risk or earth GTR for a lot of young people.

881
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 5: That's how they got introduced. You know, So that's my

882
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 5: that's my thoughts on I'd love to see it be

883
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 5: something different.

884
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I when I you know, when

885
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: I think about Emilia and you know, the TJ's and

886
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: the Dust and right, there's such a like lack of

887
00:41:54,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: representation and movies today for this demographic, right, I mean

888
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Fast is kind of our generation, right. And it's interesting

889
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: because you know, when we did Tokyo Drift, I mean

890
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: after it came out, you know, people just kind of

891
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: pooped on the movie. They're like, what is this drifting nonsense?

892
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: Isn't that fast? And now kids, the kids today are like, hey,

893
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: that's the movie I connect with, right, and that's.

894
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: What started it.

895
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of it's interesting, right, It's like.

896
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: And not like Fast won because they were okay.

897
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Speaker 2: Drift was the first one for me, and then I

898
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: went back and watched the others.

899
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Speaker 5: I think there's this opportunity, to your point, to you know,

900
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 5: have the next generation be a part of something that

901
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: becomes the next Fast. I mean, it's car culture I

902
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 5: don't think is ever going to die. I think the

903
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 5: love for cars and going fast and breaking barriers and

904
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: all the things that it stands for is part of

905
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 5: the human spirit, So how do you capture that in

906
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Speaker 5: a new way.

907
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Speaker 1: I think there is a hunger for car centric like entertainment.

908
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, there's still a big interest. I mean,

909
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: this is a good question. Then to gauge that is,

910
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: like it Seema growing or dying or not dying?

911
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 5: It is, so then that kind of change things. Okay, sure,

912
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 5: So we're growing from what the pandemic was. I think

913
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Speaker 5: like last year we had like one hundred and forty

914
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: thousand people. Year before we had one hundred and thirty

915
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 5: year before, we had one hundred year before, we didn't

916
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Speaker 5: have it. So we're getting close to some of the

917
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Speaker 5: pre pandemic numbers.

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Speaker 1: Or were those numbers, Yeah, what were those numbers?

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest was like one seventy.

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Speaker 2: I would love and this is my unwarranted or unasked

921
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Speaker 2: for opinion, but I would love to see Seema doing

922
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Speaker 2: I know there's always it's Vegas, so there's the parties

923
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: and all that afterwards, but I'd love to see it,

924
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: to see a carshoon in one of the garages one night,

925
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you got to talk about doing that,

926
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Speaker 2: but yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's a good I noted.

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Speaker 5: We're hatching an idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank thank you J. This was a great conversation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.