WEBVTT - Head of Secret Service Claims ZERO Responsibility for Security Failures, plus Dave McCormick Shares Being Alongside Trump DURING Shooting-LIVE from RNC 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:01.720 Welcome. 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:06.120 It is Verdict Lock from the Republican National Convention. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:14.560 Center. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.200 Nice to be with you, and it's always fun. We 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:18.920 come to these events because we get to hang out 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:19.560 with thrifts. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.280 It is great to be with you. Half the time 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.840 we're recording Verdict and either I'm at home in my 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.200 bedroom talking into a microphone late at night. Heighty's yelling 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:30.880 at me because she wants to go to sleep. Yeah, 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.000 or sometimes I'm in a dingy motel talking into a 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:35.199 microphone and. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.160 When your power's out, sometimes you're at my house at midnight. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.879 Okay, that is true. The last podcast we did, you know, 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.960 there was a hurricane that hit Houston. Power went out 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.600 and then my internet went out, so I couldn't get online. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.040 So what did Ben say, Get your rear out of 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.559 the car and drive to buy house. I've got internet. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.559 So that was the last podcast I dressed up for 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.080 you full pjs. It was really it was disturbing, actually 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.520 was so he was in a speedo. Let me just 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.120 say it was far too muck ferguson for my ta 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:09.160 dear this very all right, I'll get you back. I 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.520 won't get you back. I guess today we do. So 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.000 we are live in Milwaukee. At the r n C. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.040 We have a test a good friend of mine, Dave McCormick. Now, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.000 who is Dave mc cormick. Dave McCormick is from Pennsylvania. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.319 He was All state in wrestling. He was All state 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.560 in football. He went to West Point where he was 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:36.440 the captain of the wrestling team in West Point. By 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.600 the way, Dave was captain of the wrestling team at 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.760 West Point. Ben played varsity tennis at Old Miss. I 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.480 was a debate. But both of these guys would have 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:53.040 shoved me in a locker and forgotten. Then we agree 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:57.720 on that. Savin right, I say, would have if I 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:04.280 have one more joke about about locker. So Dave from 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.800 there went on became an Army ranger, served in Iraq, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.000 and served in the federal government. Served as a senior 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:20.160 official in the federal government when Donald He became one 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.800 of the leading businessmen in America. When Donald Trump was president, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.960 President Trump tried to convince him to leave making bazillions 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.480 of dollars and come be the Deputy Secretary of Defense. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.440 Dave declined at the time, although his wife, Dina, another 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:39.639 very good friend, was then the Deputy National Security advisor 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.160 to President Trump. Dave is now running for Senate in 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.960 the state of Pennsylvania. He is going to be the 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:54.600 next Senator in the state of Pennsylvania. When Dave wins, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.320 he is going to single handedly give us a majority 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:06.240 and retire Chuck Schumer as the Jordan Dave has joined 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.200 the podcast once before, but he's here today because we're 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.440 going to start on a bit of a somber note 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.519 and a note that the entire country, in the entire 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.320 world is focused on, which is what happened on Saturday. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.600 And Dave was standing on stage with President Trump on 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:28.160 Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania. He was there when the shooting occurred, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.480 when the attempted assassination happened. And so Dave, I want 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.240 to welcome you here, and I would like to ask 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.680 if we could just start the podcast by telling folks, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.600 bring us to this day, tell us what happened, Where 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.440 were you standing, and what happened that you saw. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.520 Yeah, well, thank you both for having me. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.160 It's great great with you and Senator Ted Cruz is 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.480 one of the great leaders in America today, one of 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.640 the great voices. So if I'm fortunate enough to be 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.040 in the Senate this would be a guy I'd want 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.080 to inspire to emulate. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.560 So thank you, thank you. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:00.040 For having me. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.280 And I was going to trapping up, so you know, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.000 this was this was one of the moments I'm still 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:11.040 still digesting. But what happened was I had been with 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.280 President Trump in Philadelphia about ten ten days earlier at 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.240 the rally he did a temple and so when he 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.719 when I heard that he was coming to the Butler County, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.520 we were in contact with this team and I was 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.080 I went with the idea that i'd see him beforehand, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.120 which I did, and he came in and I said, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.080 mister President, I want to thank you for how great 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.760 you were in Philadelphia endorsing me and your support, and 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.520 you can imagine presstime, he said, this is going to 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.520 be ten times better, ten times better. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.840 He goes, I'm going to have you come up on stage. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:41.480 I want you to. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.320 I want to, I want you to take some time 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.280 and talk about your race. It's very important we win Pennsylvania. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.760 And so he then went out and sat in the 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.799 audience and the President was looking out. It was an incredible, beautiful, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:57.599 hot day, but beautiful fifteen thousand people, just incredible people 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.640 as far as. I a warm, cheerful, patriotic. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:02.760 It was a wonderful day. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.320 And tell us where we are, Like, what part of 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:07.400 Pennsylvania is this? 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.880 What's the surrounding area western of Pennsylvania? Beautiful rolling farmland. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.719 This was at the Butler County Farm Show. And you know, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.440 it was a wide open area for the most part 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.760 that was cordoned off instead of bleachers, big state, an 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.880 enormous flag flying behind him, which you probably all saw. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.040 And people waited. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.520 You know, I didn't get there until three o'clock or so, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.800 but people waited started mid morning and it was close 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.280 to one hundred degrees just waiting, and you know, there's no. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.960 Shade unfortunately, and it was. But the turnout was incredible and. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.279 So he so I sat, he was looking out the crowd. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.760 I sat on his right side in the first row. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.360 And he got up there and true to form, within 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:49.840 a minute, a couple of minutes, he started to talk 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.760 about my race, Dave McCormick. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.960 We want him to win this race. This is important. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.560 He started to talk about my opponent, Bob Casey, and he. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:58.919 Said, why do we have Dave come up here and 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.480 talk about it? And so this was you know, right 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.200 in the beginning. And so I got up and sort 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.120 of went through the security and started to go up 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.919 onto the platform, and he goes, no, no, no, I 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.200 want to talk about the boarder first. He goes, so, Dave, 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.360 I'll have you up in a little bit. So this 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.120 is in front of fifteen thousand people. So I walked 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.279 back down again in my chair. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.560 That's the way of instruct you're right there. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.400 Yeah, you know, I'm due to this political stuff. 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.520 But I got that message. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.760 And within a minute or two, the bullets started to fire. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.159 And I was a military guy, as Ted said, so 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.480 I recognized pretty quickly this was rightful fire. I wasn't 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.360 sure whether it was one or two shooters. I wasn't 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.560 sure exactly where it was coming from. And everybody went 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:46.800 down immediately, and the President I saw, reach for his 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:51.000 ear and then drop behind the podium, and almost instantaneously, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.279 the Secret Service jumped on top of him, as you 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:58.160 all saw. And then there was activity behind me, which 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.680 sadly turned out to be somebody was shot in the 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.400 bleachers behind me and ultimately died probably twenty five feet 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.080 behind me. And I was looking at the President and 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.280 I watched the Secret Service get up around him like 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:15.480 that FAILANX and I saw this fist come out. I 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.400 couldn't see his face, and then they moved a bit 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.800 and I saw his face was bloody, but that he 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:25.640 was okay. And I remember having this moment, the idea, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.560 I mean, a hundred people, one hundred people are behind 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.960 that podium and that shot gets fired. Ninety nine of 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.800 them are in the fetal position, right, And the idea 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:39.440 that he had the presence of mind, the defiance, the reassurance, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.800 the courage to stand up there and put out that fist. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.040 I think it was one of the reasons that there 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.000 wasn't a stampede. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.679 No, it was extraordinary. It was something we have never 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.080 seen before. Yeah, but it was. It was extraordinary leadership. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.200 And you know, it was reminiscent. It was reminiscent of 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.520 Reagan after he was shot in eighty one and an eight. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.280 After Reagan was shot, he said to Nancy, he said, Honey, 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:08.200 I forgot to doge. And as Reagan was rolling into 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.160 the er, rolling into the operating room in the hospital, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.880 he looked up at the physicians and he said to 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.240 the doctors, he said, I hope y'all are all Republicans 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.200 and so that was Reagan and it was a great 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.560 historic calm and peace of mind. And then you have 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:28.160 Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt, not too far away from where 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.960 we are right now, was giving a speech. He's standing 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.160 up there and he shot. Giving a speech. Now, now 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.960 the bullet hits the papers he has in in his coat, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.199 but it also hits him, and he shot. And Teddy 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:46.000 Roosevelt finishes the speech and says, it takes more than 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.720 that to kill a bull moose. But I got to 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.520 say President Trump's reaction, I think is very much in 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:58.440 line with extraordinary and historic leaders to stand up. Then 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.800 the Secret Service trying to get him to go, and look, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.280 when a security detail is pushing you, they're not shy 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.079 and they're like move, boob, And you can see him 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:09.880 resisting no, and he's saying to the world that image, right, 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.880 that image of him with the American flag behind him, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.200 with his fist in the air, with blood coming down 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.120 his face, it shows that that that no matter how evil, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.400 no matter how how many forces are fighting against us, 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.160 that we can stand and win and turn the country around. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:32.280 It's incredible. Yeah, in credit, it was, and that you 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.440 know that at the moment. You didn't. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.760 You didn't realize, but we now realize. It was an inch, 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.640 you know, an inch less than an inch, and it's 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:46.160 one of the most calamitous events in American history. And 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:51.040 h and sadly there were others killed and injured that day. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.880 So you have so you said, Chief Comparatoria was just 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.080 behind you, behind about twenty five feet right. And I 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.120 guess I don't know if any of y'all have read 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.600 his daughter's face book post in our last podcast. We 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.960 read it in the pod, but his daughter's Facebook post, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:09.280 she describes how her father literally blocked through her and 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.280 through her mother on the ground and then blocked their 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.160 bodies with his body. And he literally took a bullet 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.920 to save the life of his wife and daughter. 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We've seen the Secret 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.640 Service take a lot of heat, and I think it's 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.679 the bureaucracy. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.280 Aspect of it and the leadership. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.040 But what was it like on the ground, because they 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.920 looked like there were a lot of heroes, and I 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.480 think we should separate them from the bureaucracy. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.800 Inc Yeah, I'd say, you know, two things could be 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.800 true at the same time, and I think they are. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.600 One is I mean, it was almost instantaneous. I mean, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.720 the Secret Service were surrounding him, the you know, the 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.319 sort of swat team guys came out and we're looking 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.400 down on the audience. You know, obviously the sniper was 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:38.720 taken out quickly, and so the response seemed incredibly fast, 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.200 and people were certainly willing to lay in front of 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.840 the bullet for the president at that point. That seems true. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.080 The other thing that seems true is you couldn't What 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.040 happened was unthinkable. The ease with which, you know, a 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.120 twenty year old kid with a high powered rifle got 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:55.280 within one hundred and thirty. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.120 Yards of the president seems unimaginable. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.600 It's such a it's such a example of incompetence and 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.680 failure that it's almost hard to believe it happened. And 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.080 when everything I hear about it makes me and. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.439 I know centers much closer. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.319 This diem makes me think it's even more unbelievable that 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.959 it happened. So we could have heroes on the ground 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.800 and also have one of the biggest leadership failures and 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.880 bureaucratic failures in American history. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.240 That we need to get to the bottom of. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.520 Because you know, listen, I'm I'm not always I'm not 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.200 known to my family to be the best shot, but 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.000 a nine out of ten Pennsylvania deer hunters could have 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.679 made that shot ten times out of ten. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.640 I mean, that was not a hard shot. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.680 And the fact that the first thing we heard was 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.440 that that roof was not in the envelope, I mean. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.640 Yeah, so well, And I just got off a couple 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.200 of hours ago with a conference call with the head 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.080 of the Secret Service and ahead of the FBI. So 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.439 I'm I'm going to walk into that and talk talk 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.520 about that in just a minute. Before I do that, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:59.160 I want to finish talking through the experience on the ground. Now, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.240 when it happened, did you hear the gun shot and 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.080 and look, you've been in Iraq, you've seen combat before. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:06.800 This is not that those are not the first gun 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:12.600 shots you've heard. I imagine things are are utterly chaotic. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.320 Could you perceive what when they took the shooter out? 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.480 Could you tell that was happening? Could you tell where 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.920 the shooter was? How much of that could you tell 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.800 from the ground at at the rally? 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:23.760 Not much? 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:24.320 Not much. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:29.520 I I honestly thought that there were two shooters for 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.160 a while, I thought there were two shooters. It's very 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.280 hard to tell. And maybe the other reason I thought 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:34.720 that was because the Secret Service hunt. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:36.080 But it felt to. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:40.040 Me like there was multiple guns and so everybody was 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.320 hunkered down and it was you couldn't really step up, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:44.400 and you know, take. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.480 People rush out in the panic, they walk out, that 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:47.640 people react. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:48.120 That was the. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:52.960 Amazing thing people reacted with obviously concerning confusion, but but 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:54.320 there was no panic. 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.080 Huh, absolutely no panic. And was that because Donald Trump 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.080 stood up? I really believe that. I mean you saw the. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.560 Crowd even behind him, their faces where they hunger down, and. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.120 Then he stood up with a fist and it was 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.840 like jar stood up with him. USA. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.720 They started to chant USA, Yeah, I think the way 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:16.760 Trump responded gave people confidence not to panic and uh, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.960 and there was no panic. And it took you know, 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.800 hours to unwind things in because the Secret Service blocked 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:22.240 things off. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.320 And you know, I will walk in. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.920 You know, I'd been on the screen, so people many 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.120 people knew who I was. Everybody would come up to 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:28.880 me and say, what happened? 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:29.600 You know? What? Do you know? 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.240 I didn't know much, to. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:32.880 Be honest with you, because that's the way it is 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.520 in a situation like that, you don't know much. But 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.840 it took a while to know that we weren't under 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.520 attack any further. And uh, just to take the story 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:46.440 one step further, I had a chance to talk to 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.600 the president the next day. I called him and just said, 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.920 miss pres I'm so glad you're okay, and you know what, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.920 an example of courage. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:55.880 And he said two minutes. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.360 Two more minutes, so you'd have been on that stage 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:04.600 with me, and he said, Trump said the Trump like, Hey, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.080 you ought to be glad. I'd like to talk, so 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:08.720 you ought to be forever. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.640 It's even better. He said, two more minutes. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:11.640 And I thought he was going. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.320 To say, and you might have been hurt too, Dave, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.560 and he said, you would have been in prime time. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.680 He knows his audience. What was it like after he left? 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.120 And then how did it unfold? How long were you there? 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.160 When did they let you leave on your own? Or 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:30.760 was it orderly? What was it like? 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.360 It was orderly, but you know, because it was the 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.000 way it went down. Cars were blocked and they had 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.640 blocked off a whole part of the way that people 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.680 came in. You know, honestly, when I came in, I 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.440 came in a special entrance. They knew I was coming, 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.000 they knew who I was. I was wanted the security 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.800 seem reasonable. The security lines were for hours to get 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.120 through all the the metal detectors and so forth. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.160 But they closed off a lot of that, so it 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:57.080 took a while for people. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.520 To get out, took hours, and everybody was you know, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.800 the cell phone coverage was bad, so everybody was trying 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.840 to get connected and make sure that you know, their 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.160 loved ones weren't hurting and things like that, and people 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.399 were just worried that the president was not okay. And 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.359 then when it became clear the president was okay, but 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.920 there were other casualties. It was it was a sad moment. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.840 Well, look, I will say, and you said this earlier, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.800 it is utterly infuriated that this occurred. This should have 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.440 been prevented. And this afternoon there was an all senator's 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.080 call with the head of the Secret Servant and the 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.760 head of the FBI, and the call lasted about forty 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:39.240 five minutes. I will say it was a deeply frustrating call. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.320 So for the first thirty minutes they talked and they 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.080 basically filibustered, and they got up and they described all 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.080 the security steps they did, They went their days ahead 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.080 of time, they did this, they did this, they did this, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.400 they did everything else, and they went through excruciating details 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.720 of a timeline of everything they did. And they did 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.120 everything except stop a bloody man with a rifle from 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.720 shooting the presidents correct. And it's kind of like I mean, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:08.040 it was maddening. And then on this call they allowed 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.800 a couple of questions. They had a thing where you 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.000 hit a number to dial a question. I immediately hit 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.879 a number to dial question. By the way, Mike Lee 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.800 immediately hit a number dial question. Marshall Blackberny media hit 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.200 a number of dial question. None of us got are questions. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.720 They did just a handful of questions, and I got 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:31.320 to tell you, the questions were pretty patty cage. Look 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:37.200 the questions that I would have asked had I gotten 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.040 the chance, and that I intend to ask. We need 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.639 to have congressional hearings, that we should have them next 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.399 week with the head of the Secret Service and DHS 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:53.280 and the FBI under op. But listen the obvious questions 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.320 to ask that nobody asked that. Chuck Schumer certainly didn't ask. 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.719 Number one, why were there not more agents aside? Why 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.640 were they not enough agents assigned to protect the president? 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.040 Number two? Why was that rooftop not security? Was one 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.680 hundred and sixty yards away? It was an obvious line 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.520 of sights. Number three? Why was there no aerial support? 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.679 Why were there no drones? Why was there no helicopter? 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:20.120 Why was there nothing providing aerial coverage? Number four? They 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.639 went through a timeline that this individual, the shooter, and 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.919 I won't say his name. I don't say the names 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.359 of shooters. These bastards deserve to be forgotten by history. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.760 I will not repeat his name. Yes, but the shooter. 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.760 They spotted him over an hour earlier, walking in with 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:42.800 a rangefinder to measure the range. They also spotted him 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.160 a half hour earlier, casing the building that he ultimately 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:50.159 climbed up on top of. And so the questions I 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.280 intended to continue to ask is why didn't you detain 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:58.159 the guy? And why the hell did you allow the 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.919 president to keep speaking? If you're searching for someone you 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:06.159 think might be an active sniper. There's a very easy 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.600 thing for the Secret Service to say, which is, hold 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.520 on a second, we're putting a pause on this. We're 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.880 getting the president out of harm's way. Why didn't they 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.840 do any of that? Now, not even get a chance 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.800 to ask any of those questions, because this was I 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:24.560 think a CYA briefing, and it is frustrating. I will 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.280 tell you they asked the head of the Secret Service, 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.080 how did the guy get to the top of the building? 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.080 She said, why, I don't know. What the hell do 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.440 you mean? You don't know this was four days ago, 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.200 five days ago, and you don't know how he got 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.200 up to the building. Is there a more important question 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.400 that you're dealing with? Well, yes, it's how to cover 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:49.800 your rear end from political accountability because you don't actually 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.720 want to what. Let me ask you, what does it 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.919 take to get fired by Joe Biden, like, seriously, this 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:02.600 woman should be fired yesterday. It was the most spectacular failure. 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.879 And let's be clear, it is not difficult to figure 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.760 out it is a risk to a president from a 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.520