1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: It is Verdict Lock from the Republican National Convention. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 3: Center. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Nice to be with you, and it's always fun. We 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: come to these events because we get to hang out 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: with thrifts. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: It is great to be with you. Half the time 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: we're recording Verdict and either I'm at home in my 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: bedroom talking into a microphone late at night. Heighty's yelling 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: at me because she wants to go to sleep. Yeah, 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: or sometimes I'm in a dingy motel talking into a 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: microphone and. 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: When your power's out, sometimes you're at my house at midnight. 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Okay, that is true. The last podcast we did, you know, 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: there was a hurricane that hit Houston. Power went out 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: and then my internet went out, so I couldn't get online. 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: So what did Ben say, Get your rear out of 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: the car and drive to buy house. I've got internet. 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: So that was the last podcast I dressed up for 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: you full pjs. It was really it was disturbing, actually 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: was so he was in a speedo. Let me just 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: say it was far too muck ferguson for my ta 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: dear this very all right, I'll get you back. I 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: won't get you back. I guess today we do. So 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: we are live in Milwaukee. At the r n C. 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: We have a test a good friend of mine, Dave McCormick. Now, 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: who is Dave mc cormick. Dave McCormick is from Pennsylvania. 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: He was All state in wrestling. He was All state 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: in football. He went to West Point where he was 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: the captain of the wrestling team in West Point. By 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: the way, Dave was captain of the wrestling team at 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: West Point. Ben played varsity tennis at Old Miss. I 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: was a debate. But both of these guys would have 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: shoved me in a locker and forgotten. Then we agree 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: on that. Savin right, I say, would have if I 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: have one more joke about about locker. So Dave from 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: there went on became an Army ranger, served in Iraq, 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: and served in the federal government. Served as a senior 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: official in the federal government when Donald He became one 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: of the leading businessmen in America. When Donald Trump was president, 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: President Trump tried to convince him to leave making bazillions 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: of dollars and come be the Deputy Secretary of Defense. 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Dave declined at the time, although his wife, Dina, another 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: very good friend, was then the Deputy National Security advisor 45 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: to President Trump. Dave is now running for Senate in 46 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: the state of Pennsylvania. He is going to be the 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: next Senator in the state of Pennsylvania. When Dave wins, 48 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: he is going to single handedly give us a majority 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: and retire Chuck Schumer as the Jordan Dave has joined 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: the podcast once before, but he's here today because we're 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: going to start on a bit of a somber note 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: and a note that the entire country, in the entire 53 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: world is focused on, which is what happened on Saturday. 54 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: And Dave was standing on stage with President Trump on 55 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania. He was there when the shooting occurred, 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: when the attempted assassination happened. And so Dave, I want 57 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: to welcome you here, and I would like to ask 58 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: if we could just start the podcast by telling folks, 59 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: bring us to this day, tell us what happened, Where 60 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: were you standing, and what happened that you saw. 61 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you both for having me. 62 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: It's great great with you and Senator Ted Cruz is 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: one of the great leaders in America today, one of 64 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: the great voices. So if I'm fortunate enough to be 65 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: in the Senate this would be a guy I'd want 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: to inspire to emulate. 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you. 68 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: For having me. 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: And I was going to trapping up, so you know, 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: this was this was one of the moments I'm still 71 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: still digesting. But what happened was I had been with 72 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: President Trump in Philadelphia about ten ten days earlier at 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: the rally he did a temple and so when he 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: when I heard that he was coming to the Butler County, 75 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: we were in contact with this team and I was 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: I went with the idea that i'd see him beforehand, 77 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: which I did, and he came in and I said, 78 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: mister President, I want to thank you for how great 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: you were in Philadelphia endorsing me and your support, and 80 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: you can imagine presstime, he said, this is going to 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: be ten times better, ten times better. 82 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: He goes, I'm going to have you come up on stage. 83 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I want you to. 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: I want to, I want you to take some time 85 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: and talk about your race. It's very important we win Pennsylvania. 86 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: And so he then went out and sat in the 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 4: audience and the President was looking out. It was an incredible, beautiful, 88 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 4: hot day, but beautiful fifteen thousand people, just incredible people 89 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: as far as. I a warm, cheerful, patriotic. 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: It was a wonderful day. 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: And tell us where we are, Like, what part of 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is this? 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: What's the surrounding area western of Pennsylvania? Beautiful rolling farmland. 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 4: This was at the Butler County Farm Show. And you know, 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: it was a wide open area for the most part 96 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: that was cordoned off instead of bleachers, big state, an 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: enormous flag flying behind him, which you probably all saw. 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: And people waited. 99 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't get there until three o'clock or so, 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: but people waited started mid morning and it was close 101 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: to one hundred degrees just waiting, and you know, there's no. 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: Shade unfortunately, and it was. But the turnout was incredible and. 103 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 4: So he so I sat, he was looking out the crowd. 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: I sat on his right side in the first row. 105 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: And he got up there and true to form, within 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: a minute, a couple of minutes, he started to talk 107 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: about my race, Dave McCormick. 108 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: We want him to win this race. This is important. 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: He started to talk about my opponent, Bob Casey, and he. 110 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 4: Said, why do we have Dave come up here and 111 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: talk about it? And so this was you know, right 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: in the beginning. And so I got up and sort 113 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: of went through the security and started to go up 114 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 4: onto the platform, and he goes, no, no, no, I 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: want to talk about the boarder first. He goes, so, Dave, 116 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: I'll have you up in a little bit. So this 117 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: is in front of fifteen thousand people. So I walked 118 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: back down again in my chair. 119 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: That's the way of instruct you're right there. 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm due to this political stuff. 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: But I got that message. 122 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: And within a minute or two, the bullets started to fire. 123 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 4: And I was a military guy, as Ted said, so 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: I recognized pretty quickly this was rightful fire. I wasn't 125 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: sure whether it was one or two shooters. I wasn't 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: sure exactly where it was coming from. And everybody went 127 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: down immediately, and the President I saw, reach for his 128 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: ear and then drop behind the podium, and almost instantaneously, 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: the Secret Service jumped on top of him, as you 130 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: all saw. And then there was activity behind me, which 131 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: sadly turned out to be somebody was shot in the 132 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: bleachers behind me and ultimately died probably twenty five feet 133 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: behind me. And I was looking at the President and 134 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: I watched the Secret Service get up around him like 135 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: that FAILANX and I saw this fist come out. I 136 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: couldn't see his face, and then they moved a bit 137 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: and I saw his face was bloody, but that he 138 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: was okay. And I remember having this moment, the idea, 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: I mean, a hundred people, one hundred people are behind 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: that podium and that shot gets fired. Ninety nine of 141 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: them are in the fetal position, right, And the idea 142 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: that he had the presence of mind, the defiance, the reassurance, 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: the courage to stand up there and put out that fist. 144 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: I think it was one of the reasons that there 145 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: wasn't a stampede. 146 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: No, it was extraordinary. It was something we have never 147 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: seen before. Yeah, but it was. It was extraordinary leadership. 148 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: And you know, it was reminiscent. It was reminiscent of 149 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: Reagan after he was shot in eighty one and an eight. 150 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: After Reagan was shot, he said to Nancy, he said, Honey, 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: I forgot to doge. And as Reagan was rolling into 152 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: the er, rolling into the operating room in the hospital, 153 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: he looked up at the physicians and he said to 154 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: the doctors, he said, I hope y'all are all Republicans 155 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: and so that was Reagan and it was a great 156 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: historic calm and peace of mind. And then you have 157 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt, not too far away from where 158 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: we are right now, was giving a speech. He's standing 159 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: up there and he shot. Giving a speech. Now, now 160 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: the bullet hits the papers he has in in his coat, 161 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: but it also hits him, and he shot. And Teddy 162 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Roosevelt finishes the speech and says, it takes more than 163 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: that to kill a bull moose. But I got to 164 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: say President Trump's reaction, I think is very much in 165 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: line with extraordinary and historic leaders to stand up. Then 166 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: the Secret Service trying to get him to go, and look, 167 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: when a security detail is pushing you, they're not shy 168 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: and they're like move, boob, And you can see him 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: resisting no, and he's saying to the world that image, right, 170 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: that image of him with the American flag behind him, 171 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: with his fist in the air, with blood coming down 172 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: his face, it shows that that that no matter how evil, 173 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: no matter how how many forces are fighting against us, 174 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: that we can stand and win and turn the country around. 175 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: It's incredible. Yeah, in credit, it was, and that you 176 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: know that at the moment. You didn't. 177 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: You didn't realize, but we now realize. It was an inch, 178 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: you know, an inch less than an inch, and it's 179 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: one of the most calamitous events in American history. And 180 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: h and sadly there were others killed and injured that day. 181 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: So you have so you said, Chief Comparatoria was just 182 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: behind you, behind about twenty five feet right. And I 183 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: guess I don't know if any of y'all have read 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: his daughter's face book post in our last podcast. 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We've seen the Secret 216 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: Service take a lot of heat, and I think it's 217 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: the bureaucracy. 218 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: Aspect of it and the leadership. 219 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: But what was it like on the ground, because they 220 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: looked like there were a lot of heroes, and I 221 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: think we should separate them from the bureaucracy. 222 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: Inc Yeah, I'd say, you know, two things could be 223 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: true at the same time, and I think they are. 224 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: One is I mean, it was almost instantaneous. I mean, 225 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: the Secret Service were surrounding him, the you know, the 226 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 4: sort of swat team guys came out and we're looking 227 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: down on the audience. You know, obviously the sniper was 228 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 4: taken out quickly, and so the response seemed incredibly fast, 229 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 4: and people were certainly willing to lay in front of 230 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: the bullet for the president at that point. That seems true. 231 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: The other thing that seems true is you couldn't What 232 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: happened was unthinkable. The ease with which, you know, a 233 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: twenty year old kid with a high powered rifle got 234 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: within one hundred and thirty. 235 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: Yards of the president seems unimaginable. 236 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: It's such a it's such a example of incompetence and 237 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: failure that it's almost hard to believe it happened. And 238 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: when everything I hear about it makes me and. 239 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 3: I know centers much closer. 240 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 4: This diem makes me think it's even more unbelievable that 241 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: it happened. So we could have heroes on the ground 242 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: and also have one of the biggest leadership failures and 243 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: bureaucratic failures in American history. 244 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: That we need to get to the bottom of. 245 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: Because you know, listen, I'm I'm not always I'm not 246 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 4: known to my family to be the best shot, but 247 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: a nine out of ten Pennsylvania deer hunters could have 248 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: made that shot ten times out of ten. 249 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: I mean, that was not a hard shot. 250 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: And the fact that the first thing we heard was 251 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 4: that that roof was not in the envelope, I mean. 252 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so well, And I just got off a couple 253 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: of hours ago with a conference call with the head 254 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: of the Secret Service and ahead of the FBI. So 255 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to walk into that and talk talk 256 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: about that in just a minute. Before I do that, 257 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: I want to finish talking through the experience on the ground. Now, 258 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: when it happened, did you hear the gun shot and 259 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: and look, you've been in Iraq, you've seen combat before. 260 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: This is not that those are not the first gun 261 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: shots you've heard. I imagine things are are utterly chaotic. 262 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: Could you perceive what when they took the shooter out? 263 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Could you tell that was happening? Could you tell where 264 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: the shooter was? How much of that could you tell 265 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: from the ground at at the rally? 266 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: Not much? 267 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Not much. 268 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: I I honestly thought that there were two shooters for 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: a while, I thought there were two shooters. It's very 270 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: hard to tell. And maybe the other reason I thought 271 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: that was because the Secret Service hunt. 272 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: But it felt to. 273 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: Me like there was multiple guns and so everybody was 274 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: hunkered down and it was you couldn't really step up, 275 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: and you know, take. 276 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: People rush out in the panic, they walk out, that 277 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: people react. 278 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: That was the. 279 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: Amazing thing people reacted with obviously concerning confusion, but but 280 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: there was no panic. 281 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: Huh, absolutely no panic. And was that because Donald Trump 282 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: stood up? I really believe that. I mean you saw the. 283 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: Crowd even behind him, their faces where they hunger down, and. 284 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Then he stood up with a fist and it was 285 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: like jar stood up with him. USA. 286 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: They started to chant USA, Yeah, I think the way 287 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: Trump responded gave people confidence not to panic and uh, 288 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 4: and there was no panic. And it took you know, 289 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: hours to unwind things in because the Secret Service blocked 290 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: things off. 291 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: And you know, I will walk in. 292 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 4: You know, I'd been on the screen, so people many 293 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: people knew who I was. Everybody would come up to 294 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: me and say, what happened? 295 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: You know? What? Do you know? 296 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: I didn't know much, to. 297 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: Be honest with you, because that's the way it is 298 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: in a situation like that, you don't know much. But 299 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: it took a while to know that we weren't under 300 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: attack any further. And uh, just to take the story 301 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: one step further, I had a chance to talk to 302 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: the president the next day. I called him and just said, 303 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: miss pres I'm so glad you're okay, and you know what, 304 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: an example of courage. 305 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: And he said two minutes. 306 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Two more minutes, so you'd have been on that stage 307 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: with me, and he said, Trump said the Trump like, Hey, 308 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: you ought to be glad. I'd like to talk, so 309 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: you ought to be forever. 310 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: It's even better. He said, two more minutes. 311 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: And I thought he was going. 312 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: To say, and you might have been hurt too, Dave, 313 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: and he said, you would have been in prime time. 314 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: He knows his audience. What was it like after he left? 315 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: And then how did it unfold? How long were you there? 316 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: When did they let you leave on your own? Or 317 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: was it orderly? What was it like? 318 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: It was orderly, but you know, because it was the 319 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 4: way it went down. Cars were blocked and they had 320 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: blocked off a whole part of the way that people 321 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: came in. You know, honestly, when I came in, I 322 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: came in a special entrance. They knew I was coming, 323 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: they knew who I was. I was wanted the security 324 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: seem reasonable. The security lines were for hours to get 325 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: through all the the metal detectors and so forth. 326 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: But they closed off a lot of that, so it 327 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: took a while for people. 328 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: To get out, took hours, and everybody was you know, 329 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: the cell phone coverage was bad, so everybody was trying 330 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: to get connected and make sure that you know, their 331 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 4: loved ones weren't hurting and things like that, and people 332 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: were just worried that the president was not okay. And 333 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 4: then when it became clear the president was okay, but 334 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: there were other casualties. It was it was a sad moment. 335 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Well, look, I will say, and you said this earlier, 336 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: it is utterly infuriated that this occurred. This should have 337 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: been prevented. And this afternoon there was an all senator's 338 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: call with the head of the Secret Servant and the 339 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: head of the FBI, and the call lasted about forty 340 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: five minutes. I will say it was a deeply frustrating call. 341 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: So for the first thirty minutes they talked and they 342 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: basically filibustered, and they got up and they described all 343 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: the security steps they did, They went their days ahead 344 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: of time, they did this, they did this, they did this, 345 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: they did everything else, and they went through excruciating details 346 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: of a timeline of everything they did. And they did 347 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: everything except stop a bloody man with a rifle from 348 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: shooting the presidents correct. And it's kind of like I mean, 349 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: it was maddening. And then on this call they allowed 350 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: a couple of questions. They had a thing where you 351 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: hit a number to dial a question. I immediately hit 352 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: a number to dial question. By the way, Mike Lee 353 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: immediately hit a number dial question. Marshall Blackberny media hit 354 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: a number of dial question. None of us got are questions. 355 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: They did just a handful of questions, and I got 356 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: to tell you, the questions were pretty patty cage. Look 357 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: the questions that I would have asked had I gotten 358 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: the chance, and that I intend to ask. We need 359 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: to have congressional hearings, that we should have them next 360 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: week with the head of the Secret Service and DHS 361 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: and the FBI under op. But listen the obvious questions 362 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: to ask that nobody asked that. Chuck Schumer certainly didn't ask. 363 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: Number one, why were there not more agents aside? Why 364 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: were they not enough agents assigned to protect the president? 365 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Number two? Why was that rooftop not security? Was one 366 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards away? It was an obvious line 367 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: of sights. Number three? Why was there no aerial support? 368 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: Why were there no drones? Why was there no helicopter? 369 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: Why was there nothing providing aerial coverage? Number four? They 370 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: went through a timeline that this individual, the shooter, and 371 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: I won't say his name. I don't say the names 372 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: of shooters. These bastards deserve to be forgotten by history. 373 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: I will not repeat his name. Yes, but the shooter. 374 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: They spotted him over an hour earlier, walking in with 375 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: a rangefinder to measure the range. They also spotted him 376 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: a half hour earlier, casing the building that he ultimately 377 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: climbed up on top of. And so the questions I 378 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: intended to continue to ask is why didn't you detain 379 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: the guy? And why the hell did you allow the 380 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: president to keep speaking? If you're searching for someone you 381 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: think might be an active sniper. There's a very easy 382 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: thing for the Secret Service to say, which is, hold 383 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: on a second, we're putting a pause on this. We're 384 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: getting the president out of harm's way. Why didn't they 385 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: do any of that? Now, not even get a chance 386 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: to ask any of those questions, because this was I 387 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: think a CYA briefing, and it is frustrating. I will 388 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: tell you they asked the head of the Secret Service, 389 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: how did the guy get to the top of the building? 390 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: She said, why, I don't know. What the hell do 391 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: you mean? You don't know this was four days ago, 392 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: five days ago, and you don't know how he got 393 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: up to the building. Is there a more important question 394 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: that you're dealing with? Well, yes, it's how to cover 395 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: your rear end from political accountability because you don't actually 396 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: want to what. Let me ask you, what does it 397 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: take to get fired by Joe Biden, like, seriously, this 398 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: woman should be fired yesterday. It was the most spectacular failure. 399 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: And let's be clear, it is not difficult to figure 400 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: out it is a risk to a president from a 401 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: rightfleman from a high vantage point. We do have a 402 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: little bit of history to be clear. That was not 403 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: my father. 404 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: They retracted it recently, so we know the nation courses 405 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: it was not there, you go, it. 406 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Only took him ten years. I did have on the 407 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: flora of the RNC. A reporter asked me about that 408 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: last night, actually on the flora standing right with the Texas. 409 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: That's hard hitting question right there. And I said, let 410 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: me tell you actually a quote from Marco Ruvio to 411 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen campaign when the allegation came up that my 412 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: father was involved in killing jfk And I said, look, 413 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: Republican senators, we had lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday and 414 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: Thursday in DC. Marco stood up in front of all 415 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: our colleagues and he said, let me tell you I 416 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: know for an absolute fact's dad did not kill Jfkesh 417 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: And Marco continued, he said, because if a Cuban had 418 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: done that, he would have told everyone very accurate, and 419 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: y'all know my dad, we'll tell me to tell me that. 420 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: You know, it's completely true. This is a known threat 421 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: and it is infuriating that they did not protect against it. Look, 422 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: you're having been on the ground, and you're also having 423 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: been an army ranger in Iraq. Give me your perspective 424 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: on the just maddening failure. And to be clear, I 425 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: want to underscore what Ben said. It's not a failure 426 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: by the individual Secret Service agents. Those men and women 427 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: put themselves in harm's way and acted heroically. It is 428 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: the bureaucratic leadership that is covering their hindquarters and taking 429 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: zero responsibility for their disastrous decisions. Give me your reactions. 430 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: Well, you know, if you sort of listed the the 431 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: ten most obvious ways that the president could be put 432 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 4: at risk in this circumstance, this rooftop would have been 433 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: in the top three, you know, this would have been 434 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: an obvious place at the president. So I have no answer. 435 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 4: It seems high. And this is why an investigation is 436 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: so important. Your hearings is so important. 437 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: It kind of. 438 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Seems by the way, it's not clear we're going to 439 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: have Senate hearings because it takes the Democrats to call them. 440 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: So Dick Durbin is the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, 441 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: we have jurisdiction over this. A number of us have 442 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: called on Dick Derby call a hearing, but we don't 443 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: have a hearing schedule. There's gonna be a house hearing. 444 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: But Senate Democrats, as far as I can tell, are 445 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: not interested in finding out what happened. We certainly haven't 446 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: heard of hearing announced yet. No, it's there has to be. 447 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: And the reason is is it's hard to imagine a 448 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: twenty year old kid. I mean, we have you know, 449 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: all of you are parents here. Imagine you're a twenty 450 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: year old right plotting this thing in isolation, developing a plan, 451 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: knowing enough to be able to piece to get a 452 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 4: plan that would be so effective in a security environment 453 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: which shouldn't. 454 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: Have been as permissive as it was. 455 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: And by the way, we had news breaking this week 456 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: that the government of Iran has hired hitman to murder 457 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So this is we still don't know a 458 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: ton about this shooter, but at least right now it 459 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: appears to be a twenty year old kid who went 460 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: up and did this, Like Holy cow. If they can't 461 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: protect against that, what about a professional hit squad from 462 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: an enemy of this country. I mean, this is incredibly disturbing, right, unexplainable. 463 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: So thank you for what you're doing. And I will 464 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: say there's a danger. There's a danger of this being 465 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: like Afghanistan. Look Afghanistan. You look at the disastrous in 466 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: confidence of the Biden administration in that withdrawal, and it 467 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: encouraged every enemy of America. It encouraged It played a 468 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: major role in why Putin invaded Ukraine. It played a 469 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: major role. I believe in October seventh in Hamas attacking 470 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: Israel that our enemies look to the Biden administration and 471 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: said these people are utterly weak and ineffective. I've got 472 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: to say for any every enemy of America, they look 473 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: at the incompetence of the Secret Service under the Biden administration. 474 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: And I don't even like saying these words, but it's 475 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: important to acknowledge this risk. Our enemies have just been encouraged. 476 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: The danger has gone up because they say, if that 477 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: jackdoodle can do it, yeah, what about if we send 478 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: in real trained professionals. 479 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: They also said, if Donald Trump gets like it, I 480 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 4: don't want to mess with that guy. 481 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: I hold on this is a point. Reiterate that, because 482 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: that's actually a very important point. You're the enemy of there. 483 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: I think if you're sitting in Tehran, or in Beijing, 484 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: or in Moscow or other places where advocate adversary sit, 485 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 4: terrorist cells wherever they might be, and you watch that 486 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 4: videotape and I think you say, if that guy becomes president, 487 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: which I think he's going to become president again, I'm 488 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: not going to mess with him. Yeah, I use other language, 489 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 4: but weren't on the if we weren't on your podcast, 490 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: but we're not gonna mess We're not gonna mess with 491 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: that guy because he's a mean mbre and he's tough, 492 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 4: and his instinct is to fight you. And so I 493 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: think almost overnight we've lost to terrence. Under Joe Biden, 494 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: adversaries was like the bully on the playground. They're not 495 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: afraid to punch us in the face. I think the 496 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: day Donald Trump takes office again, deterrence goes back up. 497 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: Right. 498 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. 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Patriotmobile dot com slash verdict or 538 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: nine seven to two Patriot Cinna. 539 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this. 540 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: You're mentioned the Senate only meeting details. I'm going to 541 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: read this from CBS News. Details are emerging about the 542 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: moments that led to the shooting. Bystandards alerted law enforcement 543 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: to the government on the roof of the of a 544 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: building about four hundred and ten feet away from the 545 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: State Age at least two minutes before the first shot 546 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: was fired at Trump. 547 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: Yep. 548 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: How vulnerable are we and how vulnerable is every president 549 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: past and president? If you've got a two minute warning 550 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: and the job is still not done? 551 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Did anyone answer that question on the call? Look, we 552 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: need to have Part of the reason we need to 553 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: have a hearing is there a whole series of questions 554 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: about how many threats have there been? How many agents 555 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: did you have assigned? Should there be two x three 556 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: x four x as many agents assigned to the president? 557 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: What resources, what equipment you did you have the threat profile? 558 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet that Donald Trump is the single 559 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: most threatened individual on the face of the planet. Now, 560 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't actually have the facts of the threats that 561 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: have come in to prove that is correct, but you 562 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: know what Secret Service do us? And I would like 563 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: us to know what is the comparative threat level between 564 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: Trump and Biden? And my concern is that did politics 565 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: play a role? Was it? Politics? Are incompetence because it's 566 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: clear they screwed up massively. I can tell you in 567 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: this call. So you had one senator who asked were 568 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: their drones yes or no? And the answer from the 569 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: head of the Secret Service was we determined that the 570 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: risk from that rooftop was mitigated by counter snipers, meaning no. 571 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: Number one. She didn't even say the word no, which 572 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: is what someone honestly would say. She didn't say, well, 573 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: obviously we needed drones and we should have had them, 574 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: which is what someone obviously would have said. She didn't 575 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: make the obvious point. Well, the roof was slanted, so 576 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: the counter snipers couldn't see the guy because he was 577 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: on the other end of the slant. And by the way, 578 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the roof didn't suddenly slant itself in 579 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: between when they advanced the scene and when it occurred. 580 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: In other words, they could have figured out if your 581 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: quote mitigation is counter snipers and they don't have a 582 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: line of sight to a place a sniper could be, 583 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: then you don't have effective mitigation. She addressed none of that, 584 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: but it was pure bureaucrat ease. That's a good work 585 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: for it. That's why I love having a live studio audience. 586 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: When you look at the room and for the folks 587 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: listening at home, since we are in a studio audience 588 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: and the audience is not miked, I will just say 589 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: you guys were in a cowfield, and they suggested it 590 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: was a substance that was probably there in large, large amounts. Exactly. 591 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: Well, you were there, and after the shooting happened, you 592 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: saw how close it was. Where you shocked because I'm 593 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: sure you saw the commotion on the rooftop. I'm sure 594 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: you knew that's where the shots came out from. Then 595 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: you look at it, is there any I mean former 596 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: military When you look at it, could you believe that 597 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: building was not monitored the way it should have been? 598 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was just be honest, I didn't 599 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 4: know at the on the site, right, you know, you're 600 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 4: in the middle of people, are you. 601 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: Know, you're trying to get people out. 602 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: So I wasn't sure until I got back and saw 603 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: the TV projections. 604 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: And the aerial photos where it came were You're shocked 605 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: then knowing that you were there and that's how close 606 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: that goes? 607 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, because it's the most obvious place. And 608 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: the idea, just to go back to my earlier point, 609 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: the idea that the sniper, the twenty year old kid 610 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: who has no experience, would have known the place where 611 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: he wouldn't be in the sniper's line of sight. 612 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, these are questions. 613 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer is, but it seems 614 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: highly unlikely that a single person could have pulled this 615 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: off without so much luck and so much incompetence. And 616 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: so that's why the hearings to give us confidence that 617 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 4: we understand what really happened here are so incredibly important. 618 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: Well, and look, I will say, the FBI was on 619 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: and they're investigating, and at least what they're reporting right 620 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: now is they don't have evidence of anyone else being involved, 621 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: and they're looking at his cell phone and his computers, 622 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: and they're engaged from the forensics, and we will find 623 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: out we have seen with other instances there are times 624 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: where their loan shooters commit horrific attacks, and it's possible 625 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: that this young man who is an alienated loaner that 626 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately is a profile we've seen in other instances of 627 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: people who've committed horrific offenses. And so we'll find out 628 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: in time. I will say when the shooting occurs, that 629 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: this is one of the moments I think every one 630 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: of us is going to remember exactly where we were 631 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: when us happened, and whether we were staring in horror 632 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: at a television set, or in my instance, I was 633 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: sitting there having a meal with Heidi and we're staring 634 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: at horror at our phones and hitting refresh. And by 635 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: the way, it says something that nobody was on news sites. 636 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: You're on social media, you're on X because it's the 637 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: fastest thing. You're getting immediate updates of what's happening, one 638 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: after the other after the other. So we talked about, 639 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: for example, our last podcast, we played from what got 640 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: put up on X of like one of the guys 641 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: standing outside the rally that saw this guy climbing on 642 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: the roof yelling the cops, there's a guy with a 643 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: rifle on the roof. We now know a local police 644 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: officer climbed up to that roof. He pointed the rifle 645 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: at the local police officer. And yet, and we haven't 646 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: had these questions yet, what level of communication was there 647 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: between the local police and the Secret Service. The instant 648 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: the local police officer saw a sniper on a roof 649 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: with a gun, he should have been yelling at his 650 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: microphone shooter, shooter, shooter instantaneously. The Secret Service should have 651 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: pulled Trump off of that stage before the shooter could 652 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: aim and they should have taken him out right there. 653 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: That didn't happen, which raises the question was the Secret 654 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: Service did they have communications synchronized with local law enforcement? 655 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: And I will tell you something also, so I right 656 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: before this podcast, I was going to ask you that 657 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: question because people are gonna win. He hear this. You 658 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: just met with President Trump at the convention. 659 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: For people that are listening, you got seenhim this first 660 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: time since this. 661 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: First time I've seen him since he was shot, and 662 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: I've visited with him, spent What do he said? Look, 663 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: number one, he is, he is happy, he is he 664 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: is strong as ear his bandage. I will tell you 665 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: he he he was quiet for a second and he 666 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: spoke with a seriousness that that was unlike anything I've 667 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: heard from Donald Trump before. And he said God saved 668 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: me that day. And listen, I believe that is absolutely right. 669 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Many of us have seen online, for example, recreations of 670 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: the angle of the bullet, and had his head turned 671 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: even slightly to the right or even slightly to the left, 672 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: he would have been killed. And it is what I 673 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: said at the convention last night. I thank God for 674 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: saving him. I believe God turned his head turned his 675 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: head so that the path of the bullet did not 676 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: kill him anything. And listen, this is horrific. I will say, 677 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: going back to the Reagan analogy, one of the things 678 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: Reagan always said is that when he survived that assassination attempt, 679 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: that it changed, that it gave him a seriousness of purpose. 680 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: That God spared me for a reason. And listen, I 681 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: think what President Trump has done already for the country 682 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: has been extraordinary. But I got to say, just visiting 683 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: with him a few minutes ago, it was powerful in 684 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: a very different way. And this was just him and 685 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: me talking one on one, that it had had a 686 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: real impact. 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I think it's his 736 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: most important speech ever. 737 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 738 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I was. 739 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised to hear you say that the President 740 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 4: was quiet. I think he does feel like I'm speculating 741 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 4: but I haven't spoken with him about this, but that 742 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 4: he was spared for a reason and that this is 743 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: his opportunity, and I think people want to be united. 744 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 4: And I think this sent a chill through our nation. 745 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 4: It didn't just send a chill through Republicans and Trump supporters, 746 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 4: to send a chill through everybody. That the state of 747 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 4: our politics, the nastiness, the evil, the violence that's been 748 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 4: encouraged by some of the nasty rhetoric, has to come 749 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 4: to an end, and that there's a moment. And I think, 750 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 4: based on what he said in his statement, I think 751 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 4: there's an opportunity for him to really unite the country. 752 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 4: I had someone who called me the other day who 753 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 4: was a Trump someone who didn't like President Trump at all, 754 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 4: who's a donor, and he said, listen, the guy I 755 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 4: saw get off that floor and stand up and put 756 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 4: his fist in the air. 757 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: I want the guy to be our president. And I 758 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: think this is the moment. 759 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 4: And I don't think it's an accident that had happened, 760 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 4: and I think it's all part of a grand plan. 761 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 4: And so I'm very hopeful and very optimistic, and I 762 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 4: think it's his moment for, you know, really bringing our 763 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 4: country together in a way it hasn't been for years. 764 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: Sir, Look, I agree that his speech tomorrow night is 765 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: incredibly important. I also saw the news break today that 766 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: on Friday, President Trump is going to be attending Chief 767 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: Comparatoire's funeral, and I think that is the right thing 768 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: to do. He will go down as an American hero. 769 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: But this is a moment I think for everyone, I 770 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: hope to come together. And I will say as I 771 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: was doing a bunch of media interviews last night with 772 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: reporters and they kept asking, Republicans are so united, but the. 773 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: Odd though there's been a long time, there's been a 774 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 2: long time, you're probably gonna sit down together. 775 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: And they're enjoy that moment. Their look of like the 776 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: funnelements combined with frustration, like damn it, can't you fight 777 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 1: with each other? But like, come on, just start yelling 778 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: at each other, please, that's what we want to cover. 779 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: And look, I think that is the one overwhelming word 780 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: out of this convention is unity. And I couldn't help 781 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: but point out to each of the reporters I said, 782 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: I sure hope you're prepared to do a compare and 783 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: contrast to the Democrat conduction because they may not have 784 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: been for another they are utterly divided. I don't know 785 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: how many of y'all saw today. Adam Schiff came out 786 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: and said Joe Biden should drop out, that he can't win. 787 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: Moments before day, I was real at the same time, 788 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: so sore. Where I saw the President was at the 789 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: premiere of a new movie that that Dave Bossi and 790 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: Citizens United is putting out Trump's Mission Rescue, Mission Saving America. 791 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: It's a terrific documentary and and and so I was 792 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: there for it. Trump was there for so he got 793 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: up and spoke and introduced it. It was very funny. He 794 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: did basically a rose to Dave Bossi. He said, you know, 795 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm speaking tomorrow, and everyone says the President before you 796 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: accept the nomination, you're supposed to shut up and not talk. 797 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: But then Bossi made me do this Dan, and so 798 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm here and he sort of did did a Trump 799 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: trademark few minute riff, including pointing out that that that 800 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: that Adam Schiff, whom he promptly calls whom I call 801 00:42:52,600 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: watermelon head. And I'm sitting next to Jeff Lander, the 802 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: governor of Louisiana, great guy, and I just said, Jeff, 803 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 1: he really is one of a KI. Tell me someone 804 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: else who would say standing on stage Adam Schiff, whom 805 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: I call watermel ahead. But you know, sometimes clarity is 806 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: helpful and confusion, yes, and communicating, and look, I think 807 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow will matter enormously, and I do hope. Look, I 808 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: hope this is a moment when the entire country comes in. Amen. 809 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: Programming note for everybody listening, we will be doing a 810 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: special show tomorrow on Thursday at the convention, so make 811 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: sure you grab that to our audience has been here 812 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. You guys are incredible. Thank you so much 813 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 2: for coming out. 814 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 4: Thank you, tell me fine, thank you, yes, thank you, 815 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 4: thank you. 816 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 1: It's fine. We'll see it out here tomorrow.