WEBVTT - #367 Packers Unscripted: Cardinals coming to town

0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside the one and only

0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.440
<v Speaker 1>west Hodcowits were coming to you here from our studios

0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.080
<v Speaker 1>at lambeau Field West this Sunday noon Central time kickoff

0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.400
<v Speaker 1>at lambo Field Noon. Say it again, brother w Alright?

0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Noon Central time kickoff Sunday at lambeau Field The Packers

0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.160
<v Speaker 1>against the Arizona Cardinals. It is our midweek show and

0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that means we break down the opponent a little bit.

0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>And the first season under new head coach Steve Wilks

0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:52.760
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona not going according to plan. The Cardinals are

0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.560
<v Speaker 1>two and nine. You brought it up on yesterday's show

0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that offensively, their their rankings are at the bottom in

0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.640
<v Speaker 1>basically every major category. This is a team that is

0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.600
<v Speaker 1>struggling to score points, you know. And here's the thing, Like,

0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't sit here and tell you that I've watched

0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Arizona Cardinals football this year, and certainly

0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.120
<v Speaker 1>we've seen with a young rookie quarterback how difficult that

0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.319
<v Speaker 1>can be. Obviously, the Sam Bradford experiment did not work there.

0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'll be honest when I was just bringing up

0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the the depth chart, the statistics for the Cardinals, the

0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.720
<v Speaker 1>players that are on this roster. I am somewhat surprised

0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it's two and nine. Um, certainly, you know Josh Rosen

0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.679
<v Speaker 1>going through the the rookie kind of ups and downs,

0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, swings that you sort of feel early on

0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.560
<v Speaker 1>David Johnson, it's been difficult for them getting him going

0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.479
<v Speaker 1>this year. Um, he's had some games, but he's also

0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.640
<v Speaker 1>been a non factor. And others. Larry Fitzgerald is there,

0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk, there are pieces. Defensively, there's still the same

0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.160
<v Speaker 1>playmakers that the Packers face three years ago. When you

0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:00.880
<v Speaker 1>look at Um, you know Buchanan, Patrick Peterson, Buddha Baker,

0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.200
<v Speaker 1>former teammate of Kevin King, is in that defense, and

0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones is one of the best pass rushers in

0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Be that as it may, it's not led

0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to wins this season, and they're coming into this game

0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.160
<v Speaker 1>after really taking a big shellacking at the hands of

0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers. Yeah, I mean that's the one everybody's looking

0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.480
<v Speaker 1>at right now. And you know there's stories out there,

0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.959
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals already quitting on their first year coach and

0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.040
<v Speaker 1>all that and that kind of thing can happen when

0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you're having a season like this, and then, as you said,

0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you get you get it handed to you pretty good

0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.520
<v Speaker 1>by a team like the Charges. But you mentioned David Johnson.

0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.200
<v Speaker 1>For as much as you say they haven't really gotten

0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.000
<v Speaker 1>him going, this guy still has a thousand yards over

0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.639
<v Speaker 1>a thousand yards from scrimmage right now, combining the rushing

0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and receiving. He's got eight total touchdowns. Definitely the focal

0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>point of their offense. And I agree with us. I'm

0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.200
<v Speaker 1>not saying I saw the Cardinals as a playoff team,

0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.720
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't see this because even early in the year,

0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was Week three, I watched an extensive

0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.079
<v Speaker 1>highlights package of their game against the Chicago Bears out

0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, which the Bears early won. Probed it out fourteen.

0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.520
<v Speaker 1>That was actually the game that the Cardinals bench Sam

0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Bradford in the middle of it, and they still had

0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.079
<v Speaker 1>a chance to win the game, but they bench Bradford

0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of it, went to Rose in the rookie,

0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.560
<v Speaker 1>basically threw him into the fire with the game on

0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the line. He made a couple of mistakes and the

0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Bears were able to escape with a two point victory.

0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.080
<v Speaker 1>But I thought then even in week three, okay, this

0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.160
<v Speaker 1>this Cardinals team will be okay. But then it just

0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.840
<v Speaker 1>hasn't hasn't really come together for him, and um, you

0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.200
<v Speaker 1>know they'll be coming in here lambeau Field obviously a

0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Southern team, a Dome team, warm weather team. It you know,

0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.280
<v Speaker 1>probably be pretty chilly at lambeau Field on Monday. The

0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of game really where if you're the Packers, you

0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.000
<v Speaker 1>jump on him, you jump on him early and make

0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.680
<v Speaker 1>them think about the cold and how they just want

0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to go back home. Yeah. Absolutely, and especially coming on

0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a three game losing streake war those losses to the Raiders,

0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.640
<v Speaker 1>who have had their own issues this year. Looking specifically

0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.520
<v Speaker 1>at David Johnson, as I said, you know, they've had

0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.320
<v Speaker 1>a hard time game going, they've been more dedicated to it.

0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>It seems like though since they made a change in

0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.840
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator Mike coy was let go mid October, I

0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.960
<v Speaker 1>believe Bryant Byron Leftwitch now is the offensive quarter of

0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the acting offensive coordinator. Um. When you look at

0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.080
<v Speaker 1>David Johnson's utilization carries for hundred thirty seven yards that

0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.520
<v Speaker 1>was against Oakland, seventeen carries for sixty three last week

0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.679
<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers, which obviously when you're that far behind,

0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be tough to get the run game going.

0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Still dedicated themselves to it. It just seems like their

0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.200
<v Speaker 1>goal now going forward, especially with having a rookie quarterback,

0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.280
<v Speaker 1>try to get the ball in Johnson's hands if you

0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.560
<v Speaker 1>can twenty times a game, maybe twenty five times a game,

0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.200
<v Speaker 1>whether it's the as a pass catcher as you mentioned earlier,

0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.080
<v Speaker 1>as a runner, that's the dimension he added before that.

0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe there was that risk injury that that held

0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.159
<v Speaker 1>him out last year. UM a dynamic football player and

0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.640
<v Speaker 1>their primary playmaker. So from the Packers perspective, bottling him

0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.760
<v Speaker 1>up is going to be a big emphasis. Yeah, And

0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I just want to point this out as well. I

0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.640
<v Speaker 1>know Larry Fitzgerald, as he's now in his fifteenth season,

0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.440
<v Speaker 1>he's not who he was. But I made this point

0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.839
<v Speaker 1>in our Insider inbox com I think anybody coming to

0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.680
<v Speaker 1>lambou Field on Sun Day needs to take a moment

0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.679
<v Speaker 1>and just appreciate the chance to see a surefire first

0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.520
<v Speaker 1>ballot Hall of Famer making what is almost certainly going

0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to be his final appearance at lambeau Field. I've said

0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it before, West, there are certain guys when you get

0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to see them in person, watching from the press box,

0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that just stand out anytime the ball is in their hands.

0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And there are two guys, for me, aside from Packers players,

0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.960
<v Speaker 1>two guys that I have seen come into lambeau Field

0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.560
<v Speaker 1>over the years that have really jumped out to me

0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that way. One is Adrian Peterson and the other is

0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Larry Fitzgerald. I've I've been impressed with this guy's career

0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.080
<v Speaker 1>from from start to finish. And I know those playoff

0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.839
<v Speaker 1>losses for the Packers in OH nine in Arizona and

0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.719
<v Speaker 1>in fifteen in Arizona, both games, and he played a

0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.839
<v Speaker 1>huge part in both of those in in breaking the

0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Packers heart so to speak. But but man, you can't,

0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't lack any respect for this guy because he

0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.279
<v Speaker 1>he is absolutely consummate professional and for the put up

0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.919
<v Speaker 1>the numbers that he has second all time in the

0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.200
<v Speaker 1>NFL in receiving yards, seventh all time in the NFL

0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in touchdown receptions, and he had a Hall of Fame

0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>quarterback for exactly one third of his career. Had Kurt

0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Warner for five years other than that. Other than that,

0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't had any superstar quarterbacks and look at what

0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.800
<v Speaker 1>this guy's does and think about that realistically, Kurt Warner

0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was there for five seasons. He was really his starting

0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback honestly for what three of them because they did

0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:33.239
<v Speaker 1>that strange platoon thing with Matthew and then they finally

0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.160
<v Speaker 1>went to Warner and then they've had they had their

0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.520
<v Speaker 1>most success. I think that organization has really, you know,

0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.360
<v Speaker 1>had the last thirty years at that point. So, UM,

0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be really interesting to see him come into

0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.560
<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field one more time. As you mentioned, Mike, let's

0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.240
<v Speaker 1>see now he is thirty five years old. UM. An

0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.400
<v Speaker 1>incredible career that he's had. Him what stands out to

0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.920
<v Speaker 1>me the most when you think back to that season,

0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.599
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy I think, if you're going to

0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.520
<v Speaker 1>succeed in the NFL past your thirty one, thirty second,

0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty third birthday, at that position where you're taking on

0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the JayR. Alexander's of the world, these young bucks that

0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that are so just at their athletic prime, I really

0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.400
<v Speaker 1>think you have to be able to reinvent yourself. Larry

0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Fitzgerald did that probably three times throughout the course of

0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.880
<v Speaker 1>his career. That latest one in fifteen, and he had

0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that three that stretch of three thousand yard seasons from

0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.720
<v Speaker 1>fifteen to seventeen. I believe it was an incredible thing

0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.920
<v Speaker 1>for him to be able to. He was a big

0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.000
<v Speaker 1>play receiver early on, he became more of a possession receiver.

0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.120
<v Speaker 1>And the thing I will always remember the most in

0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.320
<v Speaker 1>terms of just the most fun I think as a

0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.080
<v Speaker 1>as a kid that I enjoyed watching football was when

0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.600
<v Speaker 1>you had him and Kwan bolden Um. You know, almost

0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like a mini Greatest Show on turf going there for

0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.040
<v Speaker 1>a while down in Arizona. With what they can do

0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.200
<v Speaker 1>with their passing game, especially, you know, once you know

0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Carson Palmer got into that offense, it's been really exciting

0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to watch. Certainly they've had some issues, but he's still

0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a really shifty player. He's has three touchdowns in the

0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.680
<v Speaker 1>last three weeks. If you get him inside the red zone.

0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.720
<v Speaker 1>He's really savvy in that area and something Packers legitimately

0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:02.960
<v Speaker 1>they are gonna have to take. And you know, keep

0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in mind, Yeah, and you talk to any folks back

0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh, they will say that he should have won

0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the Heisman Trophy his last year in college. They're still

0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.640
<v Speaker 1>bitter in in the city of Pittsburgh about about that one,

0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the the old pitt Panther and uh um, the great

0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.440
<v Speaker 1>career he had there. But real quickly, what's the powerful

0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.800
<v Speaker 1>noise canceling technology that helps NFL coaches block out eighty

0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.120
<v Speaker 1>thou screaming fans can get you closer to the music

0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you love? Learn more at www dot bos dot com.

0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Slash Packers Bows the official headphones of the Green Bay Packers. Okay,

0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.560
<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the ball for the Arizona Cardinals, the

0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.120
<v Speaker 1>statistics are pretty stark west in terms of yardage allowed.

0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:48.760
<v Speaker 1>They're ranked fairly high in terms of clamping down on

0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.800
<v Speaker 1>teams passing games, but that's in part because this is

0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a defense that hasn't been able to stop the run,

0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst run defenses in the league. Be

0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how the Packers go about is here,

0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.160
<v Speaker 1>because as much as Green Bay wants to find that

0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.680
<v Speaker 1>rhythm and the third down conversions and everything with the

0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Packers passing game, the statistics tell you that this this

0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.439
<v Speaker 1>ought to be a game for Aaron Jones and Jamal

0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Williams to get the ball in their hands a lot. Yeah,

0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it really really does, Mike. I mean when you look

0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.960
<v Speaker 1>at where the Cardinals have been at this point of

0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the season, certainly being dashed for a lot of yards offensively,

0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.320
<v Speaker 1>but especially against the run, it's been a it's been

0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.760
<v Speaker 1>a big thing for them, trying to, you know, find

0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.280
<v Speaker 1>ways to get stops. They still have a lot of

0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.200
<v Speaker 1>playmakers in this defense. I said to this to you

0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.640
<v Speaker 1>as we were coming into the studio, if you look

0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.280
<v Speaker 1>at the name type players, Um, now certainly you don't

0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, Class Campbell, those type of players are gone.

0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.240
<v Speaker 1>But when you talk about you know, you're Patrick Peterson's

0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.000
<v Speaker 1>your Buchanans, Um, you know one of you know, Chandler Jones,

0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.679
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite players in the league. Just an

0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.080
<v Speaker 1>exciting pass rusher. Um. They have guys that can get

0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.800
<v Speaker 1>after the quarterback and take the ball away. It's just

0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.959
<v Speaker 1>been it just seems to me like that that middle phase,

0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the consistent phases where they've been lacking King this year,

0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just trying to find some of those road greater type

0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.480
<v Speaker 1>defensive linemen, linebackers, guys that can bottle up the run.

0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Because in that regard, it doesn't really matter if you

0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.520
<v Speaker 1>have Patrick Peterson on the perimeter or something. You know,

0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Buddha Baker what he can do as a as a

0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:20.560
<v Speaker 1>multidimensional safety defensive back. If you can't stop the run there,

0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.240
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna put you in a bad spot. Yeah, and

0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.240
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Chandler Jones. And if there's a matchup here

0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Packers offense versus Cardinals defense, that maybe is the one

0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to watch. It is Chandler Jones. He's got eleven sacks

0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.760
<v Speaker 1>this year. And we'll see as the week goes on

0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.320
<v Speaker 1>what the word is with David Baker and the knee

0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.040
<v Speaker 1>injury or injuries he's potentially dealing with, and what his

0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.560
<v Speaker 1>availability will be for Sunday. So that's definitely something to

0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.760
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on heading towards Sunday. Yeah, it is.

0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's gonna be a paramount thing for the Packers

0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and James Camp in this offensive line depending on who's

0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.480
<v Speaker 1>available there. Again, something will get a better idea of

0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.840
<v Speaker 1>after watch some of the practices this week with everything

0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that David Botier has been dealing with to this point

0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.440
<v Speaker 1>of the season. But Chandler Jones has been really impressive

0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.079
<v Speaker 1>to me for a number of reasons. One, I mean,

0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.240
<v Speaker 1>he comes from an athletic family. You know, his brother's

0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a UFC champion. His older brother, Arthur was, you know,

0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a defensive lineman in this league for very for many years. Um,

0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.120
<v Speaker 1>just an athletic bloodline. And and he's sort of, you

0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.680
<v Speaker 1>know as the baby of that family, uh, you know,

0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of been the stud and and you saw him

0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.880
<v Speaker 1>have some success early on with the Patriots. Patriots obviously

0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.439
<v Speaker 1>made a decision there that they were going to move

0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.960
<v Speaker 1>on from him and turned into a tremendous pickup. I

0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.720
<v Speaker 1>believe it was for a second round draft pick. I

0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.160
<v Speaker 1>want to say, I think it was a second round

0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.600
<v Speaker 1>draft picks that the Cardinals were able to acquire him.

0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's been so consistent eleven twelve sacks of season

0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.880
<v Speaker 1>since he's gotten to Arizona. A guy the Packers are

0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.160
<v Speaker 1>going to have to keep in mind and really, uh

0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, put their clamps on depending on what that's

0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, is is box tr available as Lane

0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Taylor available? What kind of shuffling has to occur if

0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you want or both of those guys are missing or limited?

0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.319
<v Speaker 1>So we'll we'll have to see. But um, but yeah,

0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be a focal point for sure. Yeah, alright,

0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.880
<v Speaker 1>uh West at home or here in the stands, we

0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.800
<v Speaker 1>all know that Green Bay fans give it their all

0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and that takes a lot of energy. So grab a

0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.120
<v Speaker 1>warm bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's meaty goodness fuels

0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the greatness of Packers fans everywhere. Try the delicious classic

0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.240
<v Speaker 1>chicken noodle soup. Just visit your local supermarket and asked

0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.360
<v Speaker 1>for Campbell's Chunky Sup. Official Sup partner of the Green

0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers. Okay, I want to go back to Arizona's

0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.319
<v Speaker 1>offense for one second, because they're at this rookie quarterback

0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and Josh Rosen. We've talked for the last several weeks,

0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.440
<v Speaker 1>almost till we're blue in the face in a sense,

0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.280
<v Speaker 1>about how if there's one element that is missing with

0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.960
<v Speaker 1>this Packers defense. As much as I think this defense

0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.440
<v Speaker 1>has turned a corner this year, I think this defense

0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.679
<v Speaker 1>has kept the Packers in games and given them a

0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.199
<v Speaker 1>chance to win some of these games. The missing pieces, turnovers,

0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.240
<v Speaker 1>they haven't they haven't happened. But you go back to

0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the last rookie quarterback who came into lambeau Field, that

0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.280
<v Speaker 1>being Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills. The Packers defense

0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.760
<v Speaker 1>had its best turnover game of the season. I believe

0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.800
<v Speaker 1>there four was it three or four that day against Buffalo?

0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Total total turnovers, I think it was four. Um. So

0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.520
<v Speaker 1>with a rookie quarterback Rosen has I believe eleven interceptions

0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.000
<v Speaker 1>this year, I'm not sure how many fumbles lost. Okay,

0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.480
<v Speaker 1>so thirteen total turnovers from a rookie quarterback who didn't

0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.560
<v Speaker 1>uh didn't take over the starting job until Week four.

0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.320
<v Speaker 1>So um, if the Packers defense is going to try

0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.360
<v Speaker 1>to generate some momentum here in the turnover department, a

0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.480
<v Speaker 1>rookie quarterback coming into lambeau Field is exactly the recipe

0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for. Yeah, and Mike, you mentioned the eleven interceptions,

0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.199
<v Speaker 1>the two fumbles. The bigger stat for him right now

0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.959
<v Speaker 1>is last five games. Eleven of his turnovers have come

0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.400
<v Speaker 1>in those five games. So the last two weeks specifically,

0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.920
<v Speaker 1>only a hundred two one passing yards for him along

0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.440
<v Speaker 1>with three interceptions to three touchdowns. So, uh, yeah, this

0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a big thing for the Packers. You

0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.760
<v Speaker 1>have to be able to take away the football. Um,

0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.680
<v Speaker 1>not not just this week, It's it's something we talked

0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.840
<v Speaker 1>about every week. There's a big emphasis on it. But

0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.880
<v Speaker 1>there's something about getting it started, isn't that. I mean,

0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.600
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to whether whether you're talking sacks or turnovers,

0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like you have to get it started to then

0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.960
<v Speaker 1>try to get on one of those roles, get that

0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.199
<v Speaker 1>momentum going in in that particular direction. And the Packers

0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.400
<v Speaker 1>need to do this well. Any streaks starts with one, right,

0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's what they're gonna be looking for

0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in this matchup. The big thing with rosen uh and

0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I do think he has upside and I don't fault

0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals at all for going the direction they did

0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and pushing him into lineup, especially with some of the

0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.840
<v Speaker 1>salary considerations that were at hand with Sam Bradford, compensatory

0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.160
<v Speaker 1>questions that were at hand with Sam Bradford. And if

0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.880
<v Speaker 1>they've got rid of them at a certain point, they'd

0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to keep you know, their equation and formula

0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to potentially help them in the compensed story process they're

0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.560
<v Speaker 1>building for the future. Now. So this is the guy

0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you dedicate yourself to, an ultra confident individual, guy that

0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously has some connections with Aaron Rodgers based on you know,

0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.080
<v Speaker 1>where they both went to cal Um But the bigger

0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.720
<v Speaker 1>thing and play here for the Packers, as you mentioned, Mike,

0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:02.080
<v Speaker 1>is they've allowed just too many guys, too many quarterbacks

0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to get into a comfort zone. Kirk Cousins is as

0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.320
<v Speaker 1>as difficult as that start was for the Vikings. He

0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.760
<v Speaker 1>got into a zone. Um Golf in the second half

0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.720
<v Speaker 1>got in the zone. Tom Brady stayed in his own.

0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.320
<v Speaker 1>So they the more sacks, the more pressure, the more

0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.520
<v Speaker 1>hits you get, the more it's gonna take any quarterback

0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.200
<v Speaker 1>off his game. But when you look at a young

0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.920
<v Speaker 1>rookie quarterback, much like Josh Allen in that game against Buffalo,

0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's where you really make them start thinking and question

0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.040
<v Speaker 1>themselves because there isn't that experience, there's not that backstory

0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to maybe mentally persevered through that as much. The thing

0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be looking for, Mike, much like that Week

0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.480
<v Speaker 1>four game against Buffalo. If Josh Rosen hits me in

0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the calf with a pastor in pregame warmups, we might

0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.560
<v Speaker 1>know this is gonna be a long day for the Cardinals. Yeah,

0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.960
<v Speaker 1>we may have to set up our pregame periscope Facebook

0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Live in a different spot just to make sure you

0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.520
<v Speaker 1>don't get you don't get drilled. Well, I mean, if

0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I get drilled, that might mean a good day for

0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the Packers. I mean, you go back and you say

0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you're willing to make the sacrifice, is what you're saying.

0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.520
<v Speaker 1>It's been what now nine weeks. I mean, my my

0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.840
<v Speaker 1>calf is compertly healed, so we're we're good from that perspective.

0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But all kidding aside, I mean that this is the

0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing, and is if you allow him to get comfortable.

0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Cause the thing is Mike. We saw it with Carson Palmer.

0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.640
<v Speaker 1>We saw it when Kurt Warner was the quarterback. If

0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you get Larry Fitzgerald comfortable, they have some weapons there

0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that can hurt you, specifically David Johnson if they get

0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.800
<v Speaker 1>him going as a passer. But if you can get

0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.840
<v Speaker 1>some pressure going early on and make things uncomfortable for Rosen,

0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that's where you might not have, uh, you know, a

0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.720
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that can maybe rise to that occasion like some

0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.600
<v Speaker 1>of those other veterans have. Ye, we'll see. The Packers

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.920
<v Speaker 1>need to win out and it starts with winning one game,

0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.360
<v Speaker 1>which starts on Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals. So with that,

0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.320
<v Speaker 1>we're going to call it a wrap on this edition

0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our

0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.320
<v Speaker 1>coverage of the team on Packers dot com on Twitter.

0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.760
<v Speaker 1>He's at West hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers

0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.200
<v Speaker 1>for the team mccau. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll

0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:54.960
<v Speaker 1>see you next time.