1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside the one and only 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: west Hodcowits were coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West this Sunday noon Central time kickoff 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: at lambo Field Noon. Say it again, brother w Alright? 6 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: Noon Central time kickoff Sunday at lambeau Field The Packers 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: against the Arizona Cardinals. It is our midweek show and 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: that means we break down the opponent a little bit. 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: And the first season under new head coach Steve Wilks 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: in Arizona not going according to plan. The Cardinals are 11 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: two and nine. You brought it up on yesterday's show 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: that offensively, their their rankings are at the bottom in 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: basically every major category. This is a team that is 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: struggling to score points, you know. And here's the thing, Like, 15 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I can't sit here and tell you that I've watched 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: a lot of Arizona Cardinals football this year, and certainly 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: we've seen with a young rookie quarterback how difficult that 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: can be. Obviously, the Sam Bradford experiment did not work there. 19 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: But I'll be honest when I was just bringing up 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: the the depth chart, the statistics for the Cardinals, the 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: players that are on this roster. I am somewhat surprised 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: it's two and nine. Um, certainly, you know Josh Rosen 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: going through the the rookie kind of ups and downs, 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, swings that you sort of feel early on 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: David Johnson, it's been difficult for them getting him going 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: this year. Um, he's had some games, but he's also 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: been a non factor. And others. Larry Fitzgerald is there, 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, there are pieces. Defensively, there's still the same 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: playmakers that the Packers face three years ago. When you 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: look at Um, you know Buchanan, Patrick Peterson, Buddha Baker, 31 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: former teammate of Kevin King, is in that defense, and 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is one of the best pass rushers in 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. Be that as it may, it's not led 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: to wins this season, and they're coming into this game 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: after really taking a big shellacking at the hands of 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Yeah, I mean that's the one everybody's looking 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: at right now. And you know there's stories out there, 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: the Cardinals already quitting on their first year coach and 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: all that and that kind of thing can happen when 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: you're having a season like this, and then, as you said, 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: you get you get it handed to you pretty good 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: by a team like the Charges. But you mentioned David Johnson. 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: For as much as you say they haven't really gotten 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: him going, this guy still has a thousand yards over 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: a thousand yards from scrimmage right now, combining the rushing 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: and receiving. He's got eight total touchdowns. Definitely the focal 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: point of their offense. And I agree with us. I'm 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: not saying I saw the Cardinals as a playoff team, 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: but I didn't see this because even early in the year, 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: I believe it was Week three, I watched an extensive 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: highlights package of their game against the Chicago Bears out 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: in Arizona, which the Bears early won. Probed it out fourteen. 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: That was actually the game that the Cardinals bench Sam 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Bradford in the middle of it, and they still had 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: a chance to win the game, but they bench Bradford 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of it, went to Rose in the rookie, 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: basically threw him into the fire with the game on 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: the line. He made a couple of mistakes and the 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Bears were able to escape with a two point victory. 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: But I thought then even in week three, okay, this 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team will be okay. But then it just 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't really come together for him, and um, you 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: know they'll be coming in here lambeau Field obviously a 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Southern team, a Dome team, warm weather team. It you know, 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: probably be pretty chilly at lambeau Field on Monday. The 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of game really where if you're the Packers, you 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: jump on him, you jump on him early and make 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: them think about the cold and how they just want 69 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: to go back home. Yeah. Absolutely, and especially coming on 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: a three game losing streake war those losses to the Raiders, 71 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: who have had their own issues this year. Looking specifically 72 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: at David Johnson, as I said, you know, they've had 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: a hard time game going, they've been more dedicated to it. 74 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: It seems like though since they made a change in 75 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Mike coy was let go mid October, I 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: believe Bryant Byron Leftwitch now is the offensive quarter of 77 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: that's the acting offensive coordinator. Um. When you look at 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: David Johnson's utilization carries for hundred thirty seven yards that 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: was against Oakland, seventeen carries for sixty three last week 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, which obviously when you're that far behind, 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to get the run game going. 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: Still dedicated themselves to it. It just seems like their 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: goal now going forward, especially with having a rookie quarterback, 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: try to get the ball in Johnson's hands if you 85 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: can twenty times a game, maybe twenty five times a game, 86 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: whether it's the as a pass catcher as you mentioned earlier, 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: as a runner, that's the dimension he added before that. 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: I believe there was that risk injury that that held 89 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: him out last year. UM a dynamic football player and 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: their primary playmaker. So from the Packers perspective, bottling him 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: up is going to be a big emphasis. Yeah, And 92 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: I just want to point this out as well. I 93 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: know Larry Fitzgerald, as he's now in his fifteenth season, 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: he's not who he was. But I made this point 95 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: in our Insider inbox com I think anybody coming to 96 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: lambou Field on Sun Day needs to take a moment 97 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: and just appreciate the chance to see a surefire first 98 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer making what is almost certainly going 99 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: to be his final appearance at lambeau Field. I've said 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: it before, West, there are certain guys when you get 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: to see them in person, watching from the press box, 102 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: that just stand out anytime the ball is in their hands. 103 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: And there are two guys, for me, aside from Packers players, 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: two guys that I have seen come into lambeau Field 105 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: over the years that have really jumped out to me 106 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: that way. One is Adrian Peterson and the other is 107 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. I've I've been impressed with this guy's career 108 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: from from start to finish. And I know those playoff 109 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: losses for the Packers in OH nine in Arizona and 110 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: in fifteen in Arizona, both games, and he played a 111 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: huge part in both of those in in breaking the 112 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: Packers heart so to speak. But but man, you can't, 113 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: you can't lack any respect for this guy because he 114 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: he is absolutely consummate professional and for the put up 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: the numbers that he has second all time in the 116 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: NFL in receiving yards, seventh all time in the NFL 117 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: in touchdown receptions, and he had a Hall of Fame 118 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: quarterback for exactly one third of his career. Had Kurt 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Warner for five years other than that. Other than that, 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: he hasn't had any superstar quarterbacks and look at what 121 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: this guy's does and think about that realistically, Kurt Warner 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: was there for five seasons. He was really his starting 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: quarterback honestly for what three of them because they did 124 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: that strange platoon thing with Matthew and then they finally 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: went to Warner and then they've had they had their 126 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: most success. I think that organization has really, you know, 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: had the last thirty years at that point. So, UM, 128 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to see him come into 129 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: lambeau Field one more time. As you mentioned, Mike, let's 130 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: see now he is thirty five years old. UM. An 131 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: incredible career that he's had. Him what stands out to 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: me the most when you think back to that season, 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: this is a guy I think, if you're going to 134 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: succeed in the NFL past your thirty one, thirty second, 135 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: thirty third birthday, at that position where you're taking on 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: the JayR. Alexander's of the world, these young bucks that 137 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: that are so just at their athletic prime, I really 138 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: think you have to be able to reinvent yourself. Larry 139 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald did that probably three times throughout the course of 140 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: his career. That latest one in fifteen, and he had 141 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: that three that stretch of three thousand yard seasons from 142 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: fifteen to seventeen. I believe it was an incredible thing 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: for him to be able to. He was a big 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: play receiver early on, he became more of a possession receiver. 145 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: And the thing I will always remember the most in 146 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: terms of just the most fun I think as a 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: as a kid that I enjoyed watching football was when 148 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: you had him and Kwan bolden Um. You know, almost 149 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: like a mini Greatest Show on turf going there for 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: a while down in Arizona. With what they can do 151 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: with their passing game, especially, you know, once you know 152 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer got into that offense, it's been really exciting 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: to watch. Certainly they've had some issues, but he's still 154 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: a really shifty player. He's has three touchdowns in the 155 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: last three weeks. If you get him inside the red zone. 156 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: He's really savvy in that area and something Packers legitimately 157 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: they are gonna have to take. And you know, keep 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: in mind, Yeah, and you talk to any folks back 159 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, they will say that he should have won 160 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy his last year in college. They're still 161 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: bitter in in the city of Pittsburgh about about that one, 162 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: the the old pitt Panther and uh um, the great 163 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: career he had there. But real quickly, what's the powerful 164 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: noise canceling technology that helps NFL coaches block out eighty 165 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: thou screaming fans can get you closer to the music 166 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: you love? Learn more at www dot bos dot com. 167 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: Slash Packers Bows the official headphones of the Green Bay Packers. Okay, 168 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball for the Arizona Cardinals, the 169 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: statistics are pretty stark west in terms of yardage allowed. 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: They're ranked fairly high in terms of clamping down on 171 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: teams passing games, but that's in part because this is 172 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: a defense that hasn't been able to stop the run, 173 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: one of the worst run defenses in the league. Be 174 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: interesting to see how the Packers go about is here, 175 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: because as much as Green Bay wants to find that 176 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: rhythm and the third down conversions and everything with the 177 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Packers passing game, the statistics tell you that this this 178 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: ought to be a game for Aaron Jones and Jamal 179 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: Williams to get the ball in their hands a lot. Yeah, 180 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: it really really does, Mike. I mean when you look 181 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: at where the Cardinals have been at this point of 182 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: the season, certainly being dashed for a lot of yards offensively, 183 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: but especially against the run, it's been a it's been 184 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: a big thing for them, trying to, you know, find 185 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: ways to get stops. They still have a lot of 186 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: playmakers in this defense. I said to this to you 187 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: as we were coming into the studio, if you look 188 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: at the name type players, Um, now certainly you don't 189 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, Class Campbell, those type of players are gone. 190 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: But when you talk about you know, you're Patrick Peterson's 191 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: your Buchanans, Um, you know one of you know, Chandler Jones, 192 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the league. Just an 193 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: exciting pass rusher. Um. They have guys that can get 194 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: after the quarterback and take the ball away. It's just 195 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: been it just seems to me like that that middle phase, 196 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: the consistent phases where they've been lacking King this year, 197 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: just trying to find some of those road greater type 198 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: defensive linemen, linebackers, guys that can bottle up the run. 199 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Because in that regard, it doesn't really matter if you 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: have Patrick Peterson on the perimeter or something. You know, 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker what he can do as a as a 202 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: multidimensional safety defensive back. If you can't stop the run there, 203 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna put you in a bad spot. Yeah, and 204 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned Chandler Jones. And if there's a matchup here 205 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Packers offense versus Cardinals defense, that maybe is the one 206 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: to watch. It is Chandler Jones. He's got eleven sacks 207 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: this year. And we'll see as the week goes on 208 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: what the word is with David Baker and the knee 209 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: injury or injuries he's potentially dealing with, and what his 210 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: availability will be for Sunday. So that's definitely something to 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: keep an eye on heading towards Sunday. Yeah, it is. 212 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a paramount thing for the Packers 213 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: and James Camp in this offensive line depending on who's 214 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: available there. Again, something will get a better idea of 215 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: after watch some of the practices this week with everything 216 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: that David Botier has been dealing with to this point 217 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: of the season. But Chandler Jones has been really impressive 218 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: to me for a number of reasons. One, I mean, 219 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: he comes from an athletic family. You know, his brother's 220 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: a UFC champion. His older brother, Arthur was, you know, 221 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman in this league for very for many years. Um, 222 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: just an athletic bloodline. And and he's sort of, you 223 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: know as the baby of that family, uh, you know, 224 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of been the stud and and you saw him 225 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: have some success early on with the Patriots. Patriots obviously 226 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: made a decision there that they were going to move 227 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: on from him and turned into a tremendous pickup. I 228 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: believe it was for a second round draft pick. I 229 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: want to say, I think it was a second round 230 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: draft picks that the Cardinals were able to acquire him. 231 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: And he's been so consistent eleven twelve sacks of season 232 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: since he's gotten to Arizona. A guy the Packers are 233 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: going to have to keep in mind and really, uh 234 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, put their clamps on depending on what that's 235 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna be like, is is box tr available as Lane 236 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: Taylor available? What kind of shuffling has to occur if 237 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: you want or both of those guys are missing or limited? 238 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: So we'll we'll have to see. But um, but yeah, 239 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a focal point for sure. Yeah, alright, 240 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: uh West at home or here in the stands, we 241 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: all know that Green Bay fans give it their all 242 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: and that takes a lot of energy. So grab a 243 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: warm bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's meaty goodness fuels 244 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: the greatness of Packers fans everywhere. Try the delicious classic 245 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: chicken noodle soup. Just visit your local supermarket and asked 246 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: for Campbell's Chunky Sup. Official Sup partner of the Green 247 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Okay, I want to go back to Arizona's 248 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: offense for one second, because they're at this rookie quarterback 249 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: and Josh Rosen. We've talked for the last several weeks, 250 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: almost till we're blue in the face in a sense, 251 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: about how if there's one element that is missing with 252 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: this Packers defense. As much as I think this defense 253 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: has turned a corner this year, I think this defense 254 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: has kept the Packers in games and given them a 255 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: chance to win some of these games. The missing pieces, turnovers, 256 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: they haven't they haven't happened. But you go back to 257 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: the last rookie quarterback who came into lambeau Field, that 258 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: being Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills. The Packers defense 259 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: had its best turnover game of the season. I believe 260 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: there four was it three or four that day against Buffalo? 261 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Total total turnovers, I think it was four. Um. So 262 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback Rosen has I believe eleven interceptions 263 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: this year, I'm not sure how many fumbles lost. Okay, 264 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: so thirteen total turnovers from a rookie quarterback who didn't 265 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: uh didn't take over the starting job until Week four. 266 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: So um, if the Packers defense is going to try 267 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: to generate some momentum here in the turnover department, a 268 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback coming into lambeau Field is exactly the recipe 269 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: you're looking for. Yeah, and Mike, you mentioned the eleven interceptions, 270 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: the two fumbles. The bigger stat for him right now 271 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: is last five games. Eleven of his turnovers have come 272 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: in those five games. So the last two weeks specifically, 273 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: only a hundred two one passing yards for him along 274 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: with three interceptions to three touchdowns. So, uh, yeah, this 275 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be a big thing for the Packers. You 276 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: have to be able to take away the football. Um, 277 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: not not just this week, It's it's something we talked 278 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: about every week. There's a big emphasis on it. But 279 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: there's something about getting it started, isn't that. I mean, 280 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to whether whether you're talking sacks or turnovers, 281 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: it's like you have to get it started to then 282 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: try to get on one of those roles, get that 283 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: momentum going in in that particular direction. And the Packers 284 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: need to do this well. Any streaks starts with one, right, 285 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: So I mean that's what they're gonna be looking for 286 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: in this matchup. The big thing with rosen uh and 287 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: I do think he has upside and I don't fault 288 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals at all for going the direction they did 289 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: and pushing him into lineup, especially with some of the 290 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: salary considerations that were at hand with Sam Bradford, compensatory 291 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: questions that were at hand with Sam Bradford. And if 292 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: they've got rid of them at a certain point, they'd 293 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: be able to keep you know, their equation and formula 294 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: to potentially help them in the compensed story process they're 295 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: building for the future. Now. So this is the guy 296 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: you dedicate yourself to, an ultra confident individual, guy that 297 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: obviously has some connections with Aaron Rodgers based on you know, 298 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: where they both went to cal Um But the bigger 299 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: thing and play here for the Packers, as you mentioned, Mike, 300 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: is they've allowed just too many guys, too many quarterbacks 301 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: to get into a comfort zone. Kirk Cousins is as 302 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: as difficult as that start was for the Vikings. He 303 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: got into a zone. Um Golf in the second half 304 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: got in the zone. Tom Brady stayed in his own. 305 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: So they the more sacks, the more pressure, the more 306 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: hits you get, the more it's gonna take any quarterback 307 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: off his game. But when you look at a young 308 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, much like Josh Allen in that game against Buffalo, 309 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: that's where you really make them start thinking and question 310 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: themselves because there isn't that experience, there's not that backstory 311 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: to maybe mentally persevered through that as much. The thing 312 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking for, Mike, much like that Week 313 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: four game against Buffalo. If Josh Rosen hits me in 314 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: the calf with a pastor in pregame warmups, we might 315 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: know this is gonna be a long day for the Cardinals. Yeah, 316 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: we may have to set up our pregame periscope Facebook 317 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Live in a different spot just to make sure you 318 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: don't get you don't get drilled. Well, I mean, if 319 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: I get drilled, that might mean a good day for 320 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: the Packers. I mean, you go back and you say 321 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: you're willing to make the sacrifice, is what you're saying. 322 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: It's been what now nine weeks. I mean, my my 323 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: calf is compertly healed, so we're we're good from that perspective. 324 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: But all kidding aside, I mean that this is the 325 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: biggest thing, and is if you allow him to get comfortable. 326 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Cause the thing is Mike. We saw it with Carson Palmer. 327 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: We saw it when Kurt Warner was the quarterback. If 328 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: you get Larry Fitzgerald comfortable, they have some weapons there 329 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: that can hurt you, specifically David Johnson if they get 330 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: him going as a passer. But if you can get 331 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: some pressure going early on and make things uncomfortable for Rosen, 332 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: that's where you might not have, uh, you know, a 333 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: quarterback that can maybe rise to that occasion like some 334 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: of those other veterans have. Ye, we'll see. The Packers 335 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: need to win out and it starts with winning one game, 336 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: which starts on Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals. So with that, 337 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: we're going to call it a wrap on this edition 338 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 339 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: coverage of the team on Packers dot com on Twitter. 340 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: He's at West hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers 341 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: for the team mccau. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll 342 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: see you next time.