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Speaker 2: We got a home and it smells how I was
Speaker 2: supposed to. It smells smoky man today. Excited to have
Speaker 2: one of our homeboys, but one of our favorite guests. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fans love when Park comes on here. They call them
Speaker 2: Kendrick motherfucking Perkins dropped about seventy motherfuckers, like seventy times
Speaker 2: last time. One of the comments said, Kendrick Perkins at
Speaker 2: ESPN is how everyone asks their job, Kendrick Perkers and
Speaker 2: all the smokers, how they act on their day. Offer.
Speaker 2: Let's here, damn park, what's going on man? House life
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 4: Man, I can't complain.
Speaker 1: Man, Nutty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do what I do. But man, proud
Speaker 4: of y'all, man, thank you real talk. I'm watching y'all
Speaker 4: man do y'all thing and doing their child wait uh
Speaker 4: and continuing to like shine the light on how to
Speaker 4: do it, how to believe in something and get it done.
Speaker 4: I ain't know y'all shit, I ain't know y'all had
Speaker 4: time for y'all little bro see y'all tool, I see
Speaker 4: y'all with you know what I'm saying, Kamala hand like
Speaker 4: damn no boys doing a big But I'm proud of
Speaker 4: y'all man, for I really am. I sit back and
Speaker 4: I mild what y'all doing man, and how y'all doing it.
Speaker 2: And I mean it goes right back to you, man,
Speaker 2: equally as proud as you you know, for you be
Speaker 2: able to kind of find your lane post career and
Speaker 2: be one of the most prominent voices in sports. Obviously
Speaker 2: a new contract with ESPN. Congratulations with that. What has
Speaker 2: that been like? You know you've been there since nineteen
Speaker 2: becoming a VET in the space. What has the journey
Speaker 2: been like for you with ESPN?
Speaker 4: You know what, It's a lot of sacrifice, right, I
Speaker 4: mean obviously you know being away from the family all
Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, you know, the wife and the kids,
Speaker 4: and especially when you had the youngest that's going through
Speaker 4: you know now you know high school and you know
Speaker 4: going through sports and the sacrifice you got to make
Speaker 4: to miss those games and those opportunities because you know
Speaker 4: us through We know how it feel to miss, to
Speaker 4: miss all that shit when we was hooping, right, And
Speaker 4: when you retire, you want to set aside and be there.
Speaker 4: You want to be there coaching, you want to be
Speaker 4: there in the workouts and things to that nature. But
Speaker 4: all in all, it's cool. I'm still grinding. I still
Speaker 4: got goals that I want to achieve in this space.
Speaker 4: I'm learning a lot about the business, right, learning to
Speaker 4: trust no one in this space when it comes down
Speaker 4: to this workplace. So I treated as so and it's
Speaker 4: nothing personal because I'm gonna show up and.
Speaker 2: It's just business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just business.
Speaker 4: And continue to just work on my craft. You know,
Speaker 4: obviously I'm gonna drop a lot of hot takes. Some
Speaker 4: people gonna agree with them something, don't at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, they'll be all right, well.
Speaker 1: It's cool though, it's cool.
Speaker 2: Keep it cool, buddy. Hey, So give us, give us
Speaker 2: and the fans. What what is a week in in
Speaker 2: the NBA season look like for you? Because I can
Speaker 2: say there's a lot of traveling. You're in l A a lot.
Speaker 2: You live in Texas. I'm not mistakeum, I know you're
Speaker 2: traveling and doing u NBA today and what's the what's
Speaker 2: the pregame show, NBA count down? So what is a
Speaker 2: week like for you?
Speaker 4: On Mondays? You know, I work from home, so it
Speaker 4: started off the week start off at about nine in
Speaker 4: the morning. I'm done that three and Tuesdays I usually
Speaker 4: have a day off to prepare to travel for the
Speaker 4: next morning. I'm on the same flight every Wednesday morning
Speaker 4: at five thirty and once I get here on Wednesdays,
Speaker 4: my day started at nine at n sometime at midnight
Speaker 4: Thursday is pretty flexible. I have, you know NBA today,
Speaker 4: that's that's you know what twelve to one West Coast
Speaker 4: Town and then I have late night Sports Center, and
Speaker 4: then Friday they start at six in the morning, and
Speaker 4: in that shit fuck it, in that shit ten thirty,
Speaker 4: ten thirty that night, and I'm on the Red Eye
Speaker 4: back home that night.
Speaker 1: That night. You leave Friday night.
Speaker 4: I need Friday night, so I'll be back home at
Speaker 4: four thirty and wake up as soon as I laying ship.
Speaker 4: I'm right today, you just watching my boys who and
Speaker 4: so Sundays. You know, I try to dedicate majority of
Speaker 4: all my time to the family and whatever it is,
Speaker 4: movies or whatever the hell they feel like doing them.
Speaker 2: To do that's a big sacrifice because obviously as players,
Speaker 2: we knew that. I mean, particularly for me, that was
Speaker 2: one of the reason why I retired early, was because
Speaker 2: I just felt like I was missing a ton of time.
Speaker 2: So to get back in the mix. And like you said,
Speaker 2: kids at you know, all different ages, but you're missing
Speaker 2: a lot of family time to you know, obviously still
Speaker 2: accomplish your goal. So it's you know, sometimes I know
Speaker 2: that's hard for the family.
Speaker 1: Oh it is, it is.
Speaker 4: And shout out to my wife Vanity Perkins man from
Speaker 4: yah Yo.
Speaker 1: She hold it down.
Speaker 3: Manrillide don't get it twisted from the West Side.
Speaker 1: She loved.
Speaker 4: She loved my sninking ass. She real and she does
Speaker 4: everything that you know, need to be done for the
Speaker 4: kids in the house. And so I'm appreciable because at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, with what I'm doing, she's
Speaker 4: she's dealing with a lot of sacrificing a lot. So
Speaker 4: it's all good.
Speaker 1: Stack.
Speaker 3: Remind us how you and Perk met were from the
Speaker 3: same area, the Golden trying to put off the Texas
Speaker 3: We're from the same area.
Speaker 1: We got the same high.
Speaker 3: School coach, probably the only high school coach in Texas
Speaker 3: to have two kids come up out of high school
Speaker 3: and both the NBA champions and both doing what we're
Speaker 3: doing after basketball. So shout out the coach boute but
Speaker 3: Bouta basically raised me and put the attitude, the attitude
Speaker 3: I had a basketball in me, and he was instilled
Speaker 3: in him. And as he was coming up, he was
Speaker 3: teaching Perk through me, you know. And I became a
Speaker 3: big brother to Perk, you know. And uh, Perk was
Speaker 3: bigger than I was. And I had to go to
Speaker 3: Okill to get the recognition that Perk got right there
Speaker 3: in our hometown.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So was Perk was when
Speaker 1: I was okill right there in bo My, Texas.
Speaker 3: So he was somebody that we knew it was next
Speaker 3: coming up from my area, the only thing, and to
Speaker 3: have the same high school coach. I just embraced him
Speaker 3: like a little brother and we became you know where
Speaker 3: we are now.
Speaker 2: Perk your journey in ESPN, anybody you kind of leaned
Speaker 2: on or learned from, or or any kind of vets
Speaker 2: in the space for you to kind of helped you out.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know what, the guy, the guy that's
Speaker 4: a bad motherfucking in that face, I ain't I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna say.
Speaker 1: Mother, go ahead, it's all good. But I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: The one guy that that I leaned on, the one
Speaker 4: guy that gave me a lot of you know, insight
Speaker 4: and guidance on how it worked to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: is stephen A. I ain't gonna lie. You know, stephen A.
Speaker 4: Everybody always asking me, what's stephen A like, you know, cool,
Speaker 4: cool as cool ass. But he's said something about two
Speaker 4: years ago. I think it went over a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Heading at the time. I was like, Nah, stephen A,
Speaker 4: that wasn't the reply you should have gave, But as
Speaker 4: I thought about it, it was an honest and real reply.
Speaker 4: You know, he said, I wake up every morning and
Speaker 4: I try to figure out ways to get my bosses paid,
Speaker 4: and then I try to find a way to get
Speaker 4: some of it right. And when you think about what
Speaker 4: stephen A does, like you take a lot of criticism.
Speaker 4: He's not afraid to go on there obviously, first take
Speaker 4: it is a debate show, right, Uh, that's what's gonna
Speaker 4: drive it. And we live in the world today where
Speaker 4: drummers go sell and you know, stephen A, he's bringing
Speaker 4: in billions of dollars for the network, and he said, hey,
Speaker 4: I need to try to find a way to get
Speaker 4: some of it. He works his ass off around the clock.
Speaker 4: Obviously have it steven A.
Speaker 1: Smith show.
Speaker 4: But he gives me that insight on little things of
Speaker 4: how to approach different shows. If he don't approve of
Speaker 4: something that I said, tell me about you know, how
Speaker 4: to approach when you on the ab seeing network opposed
Speaker 4: to being on ESPN. And those just be little things
Speaker 4: behind the scenes that.
Speaker 1: You know he don't have to do right.
Speaker 4: And so, uh, stephen A Man, stephen A behind the
Speaker 4: scenes is a real one to me because he don't
Speaker 4: have to do that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: If you cross him, if you cross them, that's it,
Speaker 4: that's it coming back. Yeah, it ain't no coming back.
Speaker 4: So you just think about having an opportunity to even
Speaker 4: be on first tape right, first take is one of
Speaker 4: those shows that ag yeah, that'll put you on. So
Speaker 4: I applaud him man and and the guidance and the
Speaker 4: mentorship that he's bought in this space has been phenomenal.
Speaker 2: And I know he's up for a new deal soon,
Speaker 2: so he's hopefully gonna break the bank for sure, break
Speaker 2: the bank and help everybody else out. What's it like
Speaker 2: being a regular on Pat McAfee. We really fun with Pat.
Speaker 2: We got a chance to know him. Jack's already known him.
Speaker 2: I got a chance to know him a little better
Speaker 2: at All Star and and uh Indiana. We're drinking core
Speaker 2: cores lattes. But what's it like being a regular on
Speaker 2: his show?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you? So?
Speaker 4: It's live right because Pat, Pat's gonna do shit his way,
Speaker 4: but he accepted you for who you are. This was
Speaker 4: let me tell you something, Pat McAfee is the white
Speaker 4: version of you, Towbo motherfucker cooler than the motherfucker. And
Speaker 4: when I realized that was that I actually flew down
Speaker 4: to Indiana and went to the Thunderdog yeah of the studio,
Speaker 4: and when I pulled up and I got walked in,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, yeah, Patareal.
Speaker 4: Pat getting it on in there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The whole vibe was great.
Speaker 4: His energy is great, and you could tell he's authentic
Speaker 4: about everything that he do, and he keep it one
Speaker 4: hundred man, he keep it one thousand and again for
Speaker 4: what he's doing, especially doing it on this network. You
Speaker 4: know a lot of people you know may have complaints
Speaker 4: or whatever, but he's doing it in a whole other
Speaker 4: way where it's like, no, this is how people in
Speaker 4: the real world, and you just go have to adjust.
Speaker 2: Definitely shout out path for I mean, obviously all of
Speaker 2: us being in the media space for him. He really,
Speaker 2: like you said earlier, he really does it his way.
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it. He is. I think just
Speaker 4: you know, when you talk about the most powerful people
Speaker 4: at ESPN's one of them, it's him and Stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 1: He's wonderful.
Speaker 4: Right, Like Pat McAfee called out a real top dog
Speaker 4: and that top dogs.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, he's no longer there man.
Speaker 4: And and the thing I love it is because he
Speaker 4: ain't gonna hide it the same ship he's saying privately,
Speaker 4: gonna see it in public? How you feel? So I
Speaker 4: think it's just, you know, he sets a ball of
Speaker 4: to up your game. He also sets the ball of accountability,
Speaker 4: and so I respect that.
Speaker 1: Is it true that the Celtics band from Right.
Speaker 4: Bay and me what they gonna be in? Look, let
Speaker 4: me say this.
Speaker 1: Let me say that I see the article.
Speaker 2: I heard, I heard that they didn't like your tags.
Speaker 2: I heard the players weren't for any of this truck.
Speaker 2: I heard the players weren't. I don't know it's true.
Speaker 4: And to be quite honest, I don't give a fuck, right,
Speaker 4: I don't give it because here's the team. They have
Speaker 4: a lot, maybe no mistake about it. I never take
Speaker 4: winning the championship for granted, but they act like you
Speaker 4: have to be tied to that situation or that's your life,
Speaker 4: right like, oh it was on them to play for
Speaker 4: one of the most historical franchises. I never take that
Speaker 4: for granted. But I think what end up happening was
Speaker 4: why I know I said the take about Joe Missoula
Speaker 4: on television one day, and it was during the regular season,
Speaker 4: and again they clipped it off and caught the back
Speaker 4: end of it. And this is when no one believed
Speaker 4: in a three point shooting, right, and thinking that that
Speaker 4: recipe was gonna be a recipe for success until it
Speaker 4: actually happened. And so at halftime, they was jacking up
Speaker 4: threes and I believe, you know, just jacking up threes.
Speaker 4: And I went on halftime and I was like, see,
Speaker 4: this is what I'm saying. When the Celtics, you know,
Speaker 4: are looking like are looking good, Joe Missoula looks like
Speaker 4: a genius, right, It's two sides of it. But then
Speaker 4: when he's when they're not making threes, I mean, it
Speaker 4: looks like you could take his brain and if you
Speaker 4: put it in a bird is gonna fly backwards. Well,
Speaker 4: everybody got pissed off for me about that take in
Speaker 4: the organization, right, but nobody called me on me.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I have a personal relationship with with Gross Spec, like
Speaker 4: with grossped came to my wedding with Gross Spec, you know,
Speaker 4: and that's who were only He's the only and so
Speaker 4: anyway they make it to the finals and they win
Speaker 4: the championship and Brian Scalabrini Fucking Scale. He goes on
Speaker 4: this I think Series XM show, whatever the fuck you
Speaker 4: do with Frank Issolo whatever his name is. He's like, oh, yo, Perk,
Speaker 4: he's not invited to the duck Boat tour, like after
Speaker 4: the ga I mean the duck boat ceremony, right the parade.
Speaker 4: It's like, I ain't give I don't give a fuck,
Speaker 4: Like I this is not my moment anyway, right, this
Speaker 4: is not two thousand and eight moment anyway, Like this
Speaker 4: is for these guys in twenty twenty four who just wanted.
Speaker 1: Like why should we be part of it? Right?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I wasn't the only motherfucker not there,
Speaker 4: Like you had a lot of people that wasn't there.
Speaker 4: And so Scale was like he went back on the
Speaker 4: radio and he's like, well, I think you know, Perk
Speaker 4: don't have a you know, the door's not just open
Speaker 4: for him to come back to the Celtic organization. It's
Speaker 4: two things I took from there. One Scale, who the
Speaker 4: fuck are you? Like real Tom, Like, who are you
Speaker 4: to be Shotcolling? You was the same motherfucker that when
Speaker 4: we won a championship. You was in street clothes, hurry
Speaker 4: up and went changed into your jersey. So once we
Speaker 4: started taking pictures, you could know that you was part
Speaker 4: of the team. Now on the other side of it,
Speaker 4: it's like, it's like we can't That was real though, Like,
Speaker 4: so why are you following shots? I understand you doing
Speaker 4: your thing over there with the broadcasts and space and everything,
Speaker 4: and I actually light scale, but I thought that should
Speaker 4: have been a phone conversation, right, So I reached out
Speaker 4: to Wit gross Spitt. We had a conversation. Obviously he
Speaker 4: felt some way about that. Come about the Joe Missoula comment.
Speaker 4: We hashed it out. Started this season. I actually get
Speaker 4: an email from Joe Missoula saying, hey, Perk, whenever you're free,
Speaker 4: if you in Boston or we play the Rockets, I
Speaker 4: want to go to dinner and break bread. So they
Speaker 4: have a grown man conversation, right, And I will apologize
Speaker 4: for the comment. It was a lot of human in that.
Speaker 4: But you know again, I'm gonna own up to an apologize.
Speaker 4: But I think I'm still like in Boston, but I'm
Speaker 4: not just like riding it.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna take that dinner with Missouri Yeah.
Speaker 4: For sure, I'm gonna go sit down with him.
Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like a real He seemed like
Speaker 1: you trying to.
Speaker 4: Do just you just gotta understand them, right, Like he
Speaker 4: has this certain type of way of thinking, and I
Speaker 4: actually I'm actually starting to love the way that he is.
Speaker 2: And I think like his growing pains were on TV,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like his growing pains, like
Speaker 2: for the email situation that happen, he was thrown in
Speaker 2: the fire immediately, and he got exposed in that first
Speaker 2: round of the playoffs, and I think, like most players,
Speaker 2: he went back and got better from it.
Speaker 1: He did, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, definitely everybody has growth, so I get it.
Speaker 2: I like that y'all was able to talk it out though.
Speaker 1: The way of your words now that you're first.
Speaker 2: Take basically what he's saying is your word carry a
Speaker 2: lot of weight. Now do you worry about that?
Speaker 1: You know what I do?
Speaker 4: I do now I do so you know, I've been
Speaker 4: dialing back more so I'm still gonna critique, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: god games, and if they play well, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 4: them if they don't, But I'm not gonna take it
Speaker 4: to a level where god Field attack or feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, it was disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So I went back and I thought about that. I
Speaker 4: was like, damn, it was pretty fucked up, like taking
Speaker 4: his brain putting the birds bird basically called him dumb
Speaker 4: than the motherfuck dumb. So now I do I do
Speaker 4: think about those things before I go on there. But
Speaker 4: I am gonna be fair all across the board because
Speaker 4: you know, I was a role player, right, a role player.
Speaker 4: It's a lot different, uh than if you're shocked Barkley. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know Tom Brady, Like.
Speaker 3: Let me say this, You got to Boston, became a
Speaker 3: role player and told no, I ain't lying.
Speaker 1: We was playing summer basketball.
Speaker 3: He was taking the ball off the rebind and bringing
Speaker 3: it up for making plays. He was doing all that
Speaker 3: before he got to Boston. When he got to Boston,
Speaker 3: they took all that away from him. And I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a real thing. But you know, coming into this
Speaker 3: media space, like it's so hard to be able to
Speaker 3: to to like establish yourself and this if you if
Speaker 3: you're not a Hall of Fame, Right, they roll the
Speaker 3: red carpet out for Tom Brady, Right, they roll the
Speaker 3: red carpet out for Shack When he retired, like you know,
Speaker 3: those guys get opportunities should they should, but like.
Speaker 4: Myself, I have to work for it. And the way
Speaker 4: that it goes is if they think that you're leaning
Speaker 4: any way towards like not being fair and critique and players,
Speaker 4: she might ask to be on the first thing.
Speaker 3: Smoking Baron and Jmon have some stuff to say about it.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. That's a Kendrick Perkins telling Kawhi he need
Speaker 4: to retire.
Speaker 1: That's sick coming from Kendrick Perkins, coming from perk last
Speaker 1: three years in the NBA.
Speaker 4: Nobody was pushing him to retirement and everybody probably should have.
Speaker 4: I mean, point five points for three years straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to respond.
Speaker 1: You want to respond?
Speaker 4: No, No, I respond to it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean they called you right after saying Kawai should retire.
Speaker 3: I thought it was crazy because Perk his last three
Speaker 3: years in the NBA, nobody was pushing him into retirement.
Speaker 3: Everybody probably should have. The man average two point five
Speaker 3: for three years straight and nobody was forcing him to retire.
Speaker 1: Who said that?
Speaker 4: I think Draymond Well, actually that's a lie because people
Speaker 4: was forcing that time. They were trying to push me
Speaker 4: out because of a few organizations wanted me to come
Speaker 4: in and be a big man coach. Right Okay, see
Speaker 4: had offered me during the time I was playing, right Like,
Speaker 4: they literally wanted me to retire. It was like, purk,
Speaker 4: why you in the G League? I was like, I
Speaker 4: ain't ready to hang it up, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it was trying to do that. And then you know,
Speaker 4: with Draymond God, like, you know, the more people say
Speaker 4: go up, let's say hard. He don't know no better, baby,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, no baby, Because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you go back.
Speaker 4: And watch the the entire segment of me talking about Kawhi,
Speaker 4: it didn't come from a place of me being malicious.
Speaker 4: It came from a place of me being concerned.
Speaker 1: Or having common sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, how many games he's missed, Like right now
Speaker 3: he's starting the season off not playing like it's just
Speaker 3: common sense.
Speaker 1: You just they can't be hated.
Speaker 3: If you're watching basketball, you're watching the clipers, you've seen
Speaker 3: the games that Kawhi is missed in the last couple
Speaker 3: of years. Now he's starting the season off not in
Speaker 3: that place. Yeah, that makes sense saying maybe you should
Speaker 3: hang it up. Like it comes common sense. Well, y'all
Speaker 3: tell me about I said it like this. I was like, hey, look,
Speaker 3: Kauhi is a future Hall of Famer, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge.
Speaker 4: Fan of Kawhi. I said, I think it's time for
Speaker 4: him to have that uncomfortable conversation with his family the
Speaker 4: organization because anytime I started hearing things like, oh, his
Speaker 4: neat is swelling and they don't know why that's a
Speaker 4: concern and when, and the reports are they will never
Speaker 4: leak it publicly, but it's basically born on bone. And
Speaker 4: how many guys, how many guys former teammates or players
Speaker 4: we know that had to retire because the bone on
Speaker 4: bone and so it was just I just didn't get it,
Speaker 4: the fact that he walked away from the Olympics basically
Speaker 4: to focus on being healthy for the season, and now
Speaker 4: you get to the season and it's something else.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I just think, while will never be one hundred percent
Speaker 4: again in his career, right, And that was it came
Speaker 4: from a place of concern. It wasn't like the retired
Speaker 4: because he ain't.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: It was like, bro, like the knees might be really shot.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a fast tape, a fas assessment
Speaker 4: and it wasn't a hot tape. It was like, Bros,
Speaker 4: you need to really figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2: How many years does he played dying eleven, twelve, twelve,
Speaker 2: and too something else interesting that kind of came out
Speaker 2: of not out of that, but since you know, his
Speaker 2: trainering from college that he had with him got fired
Speaker 2: by the Clippers and he's suing the team now and
Speaker 2: documents are coming out where he was supposed to be
Speaker 2: out for two years and they put him back in
Speaker 2: and all that kind of something.
Speaker 4: About that you're supposed to be out for two years?
Speaker 4: Two years? Like, what's really going on? And no one knows.
Speaker 4: No one knows what's going on with Kawhi. No one
Speaker 4: knows in the organization. He has his own doctors, right,
Speaker 4: a lot of times t lou don't find out until
Speaker 4: shoot around if he's available or not, right, Like, that's
Speaker 4: how quiet he is behind the scenes. So that just
Speaker 4: came from a place of concern. But you know, uh, Draymond,
Speaker 4: you know he took it and ran with it. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I fuck with BD, So Draymond,
Speaker 4: I guess BD put the key in Draymond back and
Speaker 4: he felt good about.
Speaker 1: It, but I have to check somebody.
Speaker 4: The reason I didn't entertain that on the internet is
Speaker 4: because I had to check Chandler Parsons about.
Speaker 1: It as well.
Speaker 4: Like he said it before them, like this ain't this
Speaker 4: hot take? Ain't it? But I didn't go with him
Speaker 4: on the internet. I called him like what the fuck
Speaker 4: you mean? You don't understand what I'm saying? Like you
Speaker 4: were tired because you was injured, like.
Speaker 2: That overreaction segment. We got a little segment for you
Speaker 2: part with a few weeks into the season. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say a statement. All you gotta let me know is
Speaker 2: if you it's an overreaction or you agree with that
Speaker 2: chat could end up having as good a career as Wimby.
Speaker 2: You're on record calling him the White KG. His numbers
Speaker 2: currently are better than Wemby's. Thoughts on check could have
Speaker 2: just as good, I wouldn't even say better, just as
Speaker 2: good can he does? He have the talent to be
Speaker 2: just as good as Wimby is good.
Speaker 3: But the White KG slowed down then, But White.
Speaker 1: KG is kind of early for that, I know.
Speaker 4: But see, look.
Speaker 1: But look we're going that right now.
Speaker 4: But look, Stack, this is what I said again, it
Speaker 4: was a night after he dominated and he buzz he
Speaker 4: busts yo ass okay, And what ended up happening was
Speaker 4: he blocked his shot on one end. I'm talking about,
Speaker 4: like beat that shit up, sprinted down the floor and they.
Speaker 1: Hit him down the lane.
Speaker 4: He came with one of those leaners like KG, and
Speaker 4: he was just yelling and shit like that. And that's
Speaker 4: when I was like, oh, last night, that motherfucker was
Speaker 4: like a white KG because it was like all across
Speaker 4: the board at that side that's twenty five points and
Speaker 4: you know, thirteen fourteen boards, four blocks. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: this motherfucker on and he takes matchups personal yeah, and
Speaker 4: it's not yeah, and he's not afraid to God. So
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Chat. I'm like, one, Chat is just
Speaker 4: as skilled as Victor. He's more physical to me, he
Speaker 4: has more dog in him in my opinion, and he's
Speaker 4: more polished at this point. So I think as much
Speaker 4: as we hype up and talk because and rightfully so,
Speaker 4: with the potential of Victor win beyond, but Chet is
Speaker 4: looking him out of eye. So absolutely he could have
Speaker 4: a better career than Victor winbim death.
Speaker 3: I had ship at the Officer game. I seen the
Speaker 3: switch switching him that week at the Officer game. You know,
Speaker 3: I was read in his and his pops was there,
Speaker 3: and it's just probably came into him like stay on
Speaker 3: him like that.
Speaker 1: So Check he had that dog and him coming out
Speaker 1: of high school. Yeah, he had it in him. Every drill. Yup,
Speaker 1: I guess, Polo yup?
Speaker 2: Could they go down as the best one two combo
Speaker 2: that we've seen, Pollow and Check as far as first pick,
Speaker 2: second pick, and both living up to what they hollow hollow,
Speaker 2: hollow and is killing.
Speaker 4: I worked it, Carol, Look, I watched it. I worked
Speaker 4: the draft and people was tripping out on me, killing
Speaker 4: me on the internet. If you take Ben Simmons prime,
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons his first three years, okay, first three years,
Speaker 4: and you take Mike Beasley and these motherfuckers have a baby,
Speaker 4: you get Pollow Ben Carrol, that's who you get. He's
Speaker 4: that polarizing. So Ben Simmons attacking down hell the first
Speaker 4: three years he was starting off. That's Pollo, right. And
Speaker 4: if you look at Polo game, but Carol game, when
Speaker 4: he's turning around, his his jab steps and all that, Yes,
Speaker 4: Beasley doing it from the left hand standpoint, but Polo
Speaker 4: doing it from the right hand standpoint? Now, can he
Speaker 4: get better for us making shots like Beesley? Absolutely? But man,
Speaker 4: he's definitely one of them, definitely wanted.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's some notable one two Pitch, Shaq
Speaker 2: and Zoe, old school Jerry Weston, Oscar Robinson one too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So don't kill me for that statement. Was just a
Speaker 2: matterfucking question. I was asking a question. But under twenty five,
Speaker 2: who who would be another center you would pick outside
Speaker 2: of Wimby and Checked. I like sing Goon mobiley Lively
Speaker 2: triple J one for Dallas Lively Lively Lively.
Speaker 1: I like him.
Speaker 2: I like sing Gooon. I like because he's a goon too.
Speaker 1: I like some goon too.
Speaker 2: And he just got paid too, what.
Speaker 1: Kay?
Speaker 4: Yeah he should have got I think he's a baby Yokic.
Speaker 4: He's a baby because he fills up the statue. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he got the he got the whole package. He got
Speaker 4: the whole package. Even Mobley. It's finally starting to like
Speaker 4: turn that corner though.
Speaker 2: Like three, yeah is year three for him?
Speaker 4: Still, I still need to see a little bit more dog,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I think he got it
Speaker 4: in him, but he's turning that corner. But I would
Speaker 4: have to go with Shangun for sure.
Speaker 2: I like him the evolution of the five man. You know,
Speaker 2: for a while he you know, they said he was
Speaker 2: out the game obviously, Yo kitchen and beads, versatility, been
Speaker 2: playing five and then be able to do a little
Speaker 2: bit of everything. Do you think that the league will
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's do you think the league will
Speaker 2: head back towards old school five? It would always have
Speaker 2: to be a versatile five.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's gonna always have to be a
Speaker 4: versatile five. But I'm just happy that bigs are relevant
Speaker 4: for a minute. W it was about a three four
Speaker 4: year window. It was all periminal.
Speaker 3: I think some team's gonna go back to the two
Speaker 3: bigs because the small guard it's not working for everybody,
Speaker 3: like certain teams is gonna work for But some team's
Speaker 3: gonna need to go back to the old style. I'm
Speaker 3: with you if they don't because they don't have the guards.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They can get the guard ball exactly.
Speaker 4: But see here's the thing, right, and this is this
Speaker 4: is a conversation that needs to be had and I'm
Speaker 4: glad I'm here with two guys that actually know the
Speaker 4: game and understand what I'm about to say. Like when
Speaker 4: the Celtics, you know, have Christa Perzingers in the lineup,
Speaker 4: are they really small?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum six nine six ten?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Is that is that? Is that small? Just because he's
Speaker 4: able to play on the perimeter. But should he still
Speaker 4: average about nine rebounds last year? I think he could
Speaker 4: take a step further than average ten or eleven?
Speaker 1: Good? So is that really small? Ball? Is a small ball.
Speaker 4: Because he's able to stress them because he's able to
Speaker 4: shoot the right right, But is it really small? Like
Speaker 4: people are like, oh, yeah, the Celtics played a small
Speaker 4: ball with Chris stiph Christoph Perzingers, And I'm like, well, ship,
Speaker 4: Derek White is one of the most He's one of
Speaker 4: the best rebounding guards in the league. Drew Holliday is
Speaker 4: one of the best rebounding guards in the league. So
Speaker 4: are they really small though? Like six all the way
Speaker 4: through the lineup?
Speaker 1: Nah? No?
Speaker 4: So yeah, but I like to see it. And Dereck Lively, man,
Speaker 4: I'm telling you he fun.
Speaker 1: He's funny. He's fun.
Speaker 4: Make sure how many teams last year at the trade
Speaker 4: dead line, dropped the ball by not getting Daniel Gaffer.
Speaker 2: He's a backup over there.
Speaker 4: Well they got him starting now, But I think that's
Speaker 4: I think that's Jay Kidd playing like the mind ga
Speaker 4: lively to keep them hungry. But think about what Daniel
Speaker 4: Gaffer could be going for the Lakers or what he
Speaker 4: could be doing for Ship Phoenix. Because I take Daniel Gaffer,
Speaker 4: I like plumb nurkish bothers me right, he gets all
Speaker 4: my damn nurves because he just don't know his roll.
Speaker 4: Imagine they had a legit live thread like Daniel Gaffer live,
Speaker 4: and I think they got him for like a two
Speaker 4: second round picks or some ship.
Speaker 1: Is this an overreaction?
Speaker 3: You was the main reason why yours are taking over
Speaker 3: the Americans spot in the NBA.
Speaker 4: Hell now, it's not an overreaction. It's a real thing.
Speaker 3: Six straight years MVP has been foreigner, too straight for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know why, because they are all.
Speaker 3: They taking this ship serious. Ain't worry about I G
Speaker 3: likes and videos and ship like that. They just out
Speaker 3: there hooping on the blacktop.
Speaker 4: Still, they out there hooping, and they so so. My
Speaker 4: middle son Kingston, he had so He had a teammate
Speaker 4: that was a little point guard named Dax Mitchell. He
Speaker 4: was out of New Orleans. His dad worked at a refinery,
Speaker 4: ended up taking a job over in the Netherlands, right,
Speaker 4: so they relocated. And he called me said part this
Speaker 4: shitt night and day. So I'm like, well, what you mean?
Speaker 4: He like, Man, we playing AAU games every weekend, we traveling,
Speaker 4: He'll be traveling there over here. They play one time
Speaker 4: a week, practice for rest, then practice the risk yep
Speaker 4: four to ten minute quarters one time a week and
Speaker 4: they practice and training. Mak yeah, yeah, And I think
Speaker 4: that's that's what we miss.
Speaker 2: I would say. And to me, it's not even better.
Speaker 2: They have a better understanding of how to play basketball,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because I feel like the
Speaker 2: American kids are just as skilled, if not more skilled,
Speaker 2: but it's just with the ball. So they don't know
Speaker 2: how to play off the ball. They don't know how
Speaker 2: to play team basketball, they don't know how to fit
Speaker 2: in the system. The European people, obviously because the NBA
Speaker 2: game has changed more terms of the European game. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we were talking about the bigs being obsolete, more running, gunning,
Speaker 2: you know, foul for a lot of free throws. But
Speaker 2: I feel like with this game where they you know,
Speaker 2: they practice a bunch and then they play one time,
Speaker 2: they're actually learning the skill set of skill set in
Speaker 2: high IQ. And that's why I feel like you see
Speaker 2: a ton of talented American kids kind of wash out
Speaker 2: because they don't understand if they don't have the ball,
Speaker 2: they don't know what.
Speaker 1: The to do.
Speaker 4: No, I agree, And y'all think about this for a second.
Speaker 4: How many former players do y'all see now coaching their
Speaker 4: son's team.
Speaker 1: And aging the right way I was doing it.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to fucking be coaching, but I can't
Speaker 4: sit back on the sideline and watch somebody else coach
Speaker 4: who's not teaching these kids how to play the game
Speaker 4: the right way. So all of a sudden, I didn't
Speaker 4: accepted another job I didn't plan on doing, to go
Speaker 4: out here and try.
Speaker 1: To you know, for free talk and like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: Why coach, bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like.
Speaker 2: Quality of coaching is bullshit and there's some good ones.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, But if I offend you by
Speaker 2: saying there's some bullshit coaching or the aus because you're bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a nothing. I'm telling you. I went
Speaker 1: to look it was.
Speaker 4: It was an eighth grade team and squad was quote
Speaker 4: unquote supposed to be an elite team. They didn't even
Speaker 4: know what the d h O was. That's a problem, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: what do you like, what's really going on? You don't
Speaker 4: know what the d h O is.
Speaker 2: Have you had any bad experiences with parents, other coaches,
Speaker 2: referees during your a you run?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I didn't, got, I got I didn't have
Speaker 4: my fair share getting kicked out the game for damn
Speaker 4: show right for the Rials.
Speaker 1: But what the d h O d like a hand
Speaker 1: off if you dribble hand off?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, don't over thinking. You knew it he put Yallas,
Speaker 4: but you know, but yeah, I mean that's why that's
Speaker 4: why I don't coach no more.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't coach my son's team no more because it
Speaker 4: was disturbing my peace from the other parents, right, like
Speaker 4: it was for real, man, it was disturbing my peace.
Speaker 4: Like I'm getting in the call going home on I'm pissed. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm mad because the motherfucker mad at me because I
Speaker 4: ain't your son didn't bring the ball up like your
Speaker 4: son had literally sixteen points just off of playing his
Speaker 4: role and cutting and knocking down shots.
Speaker 1: But you're telling me I'm.
Speaker 4: Taking away from his development because he's actually not bringing
Speaker 4: the ball up the floor. So at that point, I'm like, nah,
Speaker 4: you got it, y'all go find something else. I broke
Speaker 4: up the team. Matter of fact, I'm gonna take mine
Speaker 4: and he gonna go play up two grades and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go put him in somebody else hands that I
Speaker 4: do trust with this organization. And y'all go ahead. They
Speaker 4: circle back, like come on this. I'm like, hell nah,
Speaker 4: hell no, I'm already tied coming off the plane. And
Speaker 4: then y'all stressing me out over some bullshit.
Speaker 2: Andy'll pay me, and I got you got to pay
Speaker 2: for a whole bunch of other kids. And thoughts on
Speaker 2: whold backs and double whole backs.
Speaker 1: What if I what if I I'd have done that
Speaker 1: in high school?
Speaker 4: Man, you wasn't wasn't gonna that you do that. Boo
Speaker 4: wasn't go boo that.
Speaker 1: They wasn't gonna let you do that.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, right, my oldest is a reclass, right,
Speaker 4: but he's not in the reclass because of sports. Right,
Speaker 4: he just went to homeschool for two years right after COVID.
Speaker 4: He stayed in homeschool, and I felt like he was
Speaker 4: behind for like his social ship, and so I was like, nah, bro,
Speaker 4: like this ain't it like you're not ready to go
Speaker 4: to the ninth grade. So that, yeah, I made him
Speaker 4: go back to school for his eighth grade year, but
Speaker 4: he didn't just I mean he didn't started playing basketball
Speaker 4: to literally like a year ago. He's a sophomore and
Speaker 4: now like until he got to ninth grade and he
Speaker 4: played football, but he never was like all in on sports.
Speaker 4: There was more so of a move like like my nigga,
Speaker 4: you gotta get out of.
Speaker 2: Your shit social yeah, like one of my one of
Speaker 2: my sons is like that.
Speaker 1: We thought about it.
Speaker 2: He just wasn't ready for what level.
Speaker 1: Of yeah, yeah this is coming.
Speaker 4: That's the reason I've done it, And I think I
Speaker 4: just had to do it as a parent, not in
Speaker 4: a bad way. I think the worst thing that I've
Speaker 4: done with my oldest child was named him Kendrick Perkins Junior.
Speaker 1: For him.
Speaker 4: I should have because he shied away from shit like that, right,
Speaker 4: I could have named him something else, gave him his
Speaker 4: own identity right, like, but my thirteen year old thought
Speaker 4: he actually embraced shit like that, like he wont the
Speaker 4: shit he wants the cameras, he won't get attention, and
Speaker 4: he goes shine in it. But my oldest ain't. You know,
Speaker 4: he fought n ain't his thing. And I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4: Smart kid, you know, real great, you know, great kid.
Speaker 4: I love him to death. Know the Bible in and
Speaker 4: I out know his books. You know, he didn't won
Speaker 4: awards all across America far as in his books. And
Speaker 4: I'm okay with it, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: I think that was the one thing that I see
Speaker 4: that I should have done differently.
Speaker 2: Overreaction, Bucks fan should be worried about losing Yannis. CBS
Speaker 2: recently reported the teams are circling around preparing for a
Speaker 2: Janni's opportunity. Obviously, we don't know what's gonna happen with
Speaker 2: Middleton and he continues to be injury riddled. I think
Speaker 2: Lillard is gonna have a bounce back season. A lot
Speaker 2: of shit going on in his personal life. He's allowed
Speaker 2: to focus on basketball again. But have the Bucks missed
Speaker 2: the window?
Speaker 1: I think one.
Speaker 4: You can't trusts no more right and what he's what
Speaker 4: he's capable of doing.
Speaker 2: So why you say that because.
Speaker 4: One okay, put pressure on the organization to make.
Speaker 1: A move and to bring the Nassis back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 1: Shout out the nasty. I thought they brought it back back.
Speaker 1: They wanted back. Shout out the nastis man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they want I think they want
Speaker 2: to bring him back to kind of secure comfortability.
Speaker 4: Nas Shout out the Nasais Jis he wanted. He made
Speaker 4: a move before he said the extension, He went out
Speaker 4: public and said some things. So they make a move
Speaker 4: out of desperation and get dang right, and you give
Speaker 4: up Drew Holliday. Then last year you fire Agent Griffin.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you mean because you are more ear to
Speaker 2: the Did you find out what the reason behind that was?
Speaker 1: No? But but but I do know this.
Speaker 2: There were sixteen and four.
Speaker 4: Thirteen second in the Yeah, because you got blood on
Speaker 4: your hands. And to be honest with you, the Bucks
Speaker 4: ain't doing shit this offseason while everybody else was making
Speaker 4: powerful moves. And you watch the Knicks go get Michel Bridges,
Speaker 4: You watch the Knicks go get called Anthony Towns. You
Speaker 4: watch Philly make a move for PG. You watch all
Speaker 4: these teams go out and try to, like, you know,
Speaker 4: stack the dicks just to go compete if they have
Speaker 4: an opportunity against the Celtics. Right, No, not, But Milwaukee
Speaker 4: when got Gartrn Jr. Entorian Prince Chris Middleton coming off
Speaker 4: for two ankle surgeries. That shit done right, Doc, text
Speaker 4: Doc before I said a bottom on TV. Motherfucker your
Speaker 4: ass on the clock. You gotta do something, Doc, real talk.
Speaker 4: I've been to your come to your defense so many times,
Speaker 4: but at this point, you didn't achieve much with the
Speaker 4: Clippers of Philly. You gotta fucking deliver, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? And I think one I think. I think
Speaker 4: if they don't make it to the NBA Finals this year,
Speaker 4: I can see Milwaukee going in a different direction, or
Speaker 4: Yannis one.
Speaker 3: Out Nuggets with RUSS championship team, or they need to
Speaker 3: ask some add something else to be back at championship
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 4: I'm not banking on Russ. I think Russ is gonna
Speaker 4: do some good things for them. Man, it's Sama Murray
Speaker 4: for me. We should have a better year. My point,
Speaker 4: because you can play off the bar and beer two go.
Speaker 4: He's a better score anyway he is. But but but
Speaker 4: stack man, when the fuck we go see it? Like
Speaker 4: real talk, like in Spurts.
Speaker 1: We see it in Spurs.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we see it in the playoffs. But when
Speaker 4: do we really go see it? The new norm in
Speaker 4: the NBA is thirty, right, Like that's that show. That's
Speaker 4: the twenty of when we was actually you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, when we was in the league, like doing
Speaker 4: our thing like most folks, was averaging the highest score
Speaker 4: at that time, probably twenty five, twenty eight, Like last
Speaker 4: season was his best season at twenty one. Like at
Speaker 4: some point, Bro, you gotta help a brother.
Speaker 1: I yeah, you can't just.
Speaker 4: Lean on Yokis this whole time, Like you supposed to
Speaker 4: be one of them.
Speaker 2: Was maxed, right, you got a max deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you did. So you think, let let go KCP.
Speaker 4: When are you gonna take that next step? Like, when
Speaker 4: are you gonna take that next step? Like nineteen points?
Speaker 4: Ain't getting it?
Speaker 1: Like, what's up with you?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I think what was it? What was the the GM's name, Tim? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So Tim Conley helped build that team and then left
Speaker 2: the year after they won the championship. The year they
Speaker 2: won the championship and Calvin Booth's taken over since then,
Speaker 2: and since then, it's to me it's been a decline.
Speaker 2: I mean, they lost Bruce Brown, they lost Jeff Green,
Speaker 2: they lost KCP, there's one other person I think they lost,
Speaker 2: but they haven't necessarily filled those boys.
Speaker 1: And you know as Green.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned Jeff Green, but you know how key
Speaker 2: role players are in certain situations. That's why you didn't
Speaker 2: see Boston really let go with nobody. You know, they like, shit,
Speaker 2: we won, We're hoping for Zingis, you know, can play
Speaker 2: more and let's really run it back. But I think
Speaker 2: from the day they won the championship, it's kind of
Speaker 2: been a downhill as far as losing pieces that you
Speaker 2: didn't know where as key as they were for your team.
Speaker 4: It seemed like to me that they'll go on the
Speaker 4: cheap brother, they're never gonna pay. They're never gonna pay,
Speaker 4: so every time they get an opportunity to stay below.
Speaker 4: And I'm still trying to figure that shit out too,
Speaker 4: that whole first Apron, Second Apron, all that shit with
Speaker 4: the new CBA, but small market, they're never gonna be
Speaker 4: in the luxury tags. They're gonna make.
Speaker 1: Sure that right.
Speaker 4: But they still even even with losing those pieces, even
Speaker 4: if you're banking on Christian Brown to come in and
Speaker 4: elevate his game, but you still got the core.
Speaker 3: You still got a core four, right, you still have
Speaker 3: paid a lot of money to Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 4: Like, when is Michael Porter Jr. Gonna take that lead?
Speaker 4: What's wrong?
Speaker 1: Stay? I I want to see him do more?
Speaker 4: Broo, Michael Porter.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Like that's a that's like you got
Speaker 4: four you got four guys that like, really an all star,
Speaker 4: accountable players should be in the dick of things.
Speaker 1: The West is a mystery.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could look at Okay see and say, oh
Speaker 4: yeah they coming out of the West, they look damn good.
Speaker 1: Or it could be the Mavericks.
Speaker 4: But outside of that, like to me, I feel like
Speaker 4: it's up for grounds.
Speaker 3: Who gets traded, person who leaves their team person. I
Speaker 3: think I think yok is a life for he. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, when I lose, he gonna be there.
Speaker 2: And you always got to think, although you know they're
Speaker 2: both small markets. Milwaukee is a very small market, and
Speaker 2: Giannis hasn't really been on a big team that's on
Speaker 2: a big stage and the major media.
Speaker 3: We've been talking about playing the Golden State for the
Speaker 3: last three four years. I've been showing pictures of him
Speaker 3: in Golden State.
Speaker 4: Golden State look like I can't do right now, They're
Speaker 4: looking good.
Speaker 1: They needed one.
Speaker 4: Person that I ain't gonna lie, one person keep out
Speaker 4: on this, uh because the Pelicans, Man, I don't know
Speaker 4: what they're doing, but brandon Ingram. I like he's gonna
Speaker 4: be the guy that's going into up Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: wonder where he's gonna go, because he definitely could change
Speaker 4: some ship we'll be going, especially if it's a good tender.
Speaker 2: He got a lot of game overreaction. Anthony Davis is
Speaker 2: the best big in the league.
Speaker 4: After I don't think it's overreaction. I ain't I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna I ain't gonna lie. I think damn JJ been
Speaker 4: coaching as I've been watching that motherfucker. I've been wanting
Speaker 4: to hate on him so bad on the TV, but
Speaker 4: I fuck with JJ. But man, JJ been coaching his
Speaker 4: ass off man and he he's unlocked somewhere A did
Speaker 4: And I think it's the dog fund. Like we've been
Speaker 4: waiting on him to like we knew he you know,
Speaker 4: we know that he's one of the most skilled power
Speaker 4: forwards that we've seen, but it's the sets and everything.
Speaker 4: Third in the league and scoring right now, and he's
Speaker 4: just playing with a different type of tenacity and edge
Speaker 4: and it's showing it off.
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, he is.
Speaker 4: Looking like the second best big in the league right now.
Speaker 4: I can't. I gotta give him his props.
Speaker 2: Is there a piece you feel like the Lakers could
Speaker 2: use that'll put them in championship?
Speaker 4: Yes, they didn't get it last year. They should have
Speaker 4: got it last year. What is the what the Lakers missing?
Speaker 4: Show that that part's big? Huh big, most important part
Speaker 4: because a D still could ankle the five pretty damn good.
Speaker 4: If you go back and look at that Denver series
Speaker 4: last year, a D held his own with yow.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You gotta have defense in the Western Conference. You got
Speaker 4: too many motherfuckers that could go get it from Anthony Elwis,
Speaker 4: Luca Kyrie, k D book. You gotta have for remember
Speaker 4: the defense. If the Lakers would just not be I
Speaker 4: don't know what it is. I like Austin Reeves, but
Speaker 4: they act like he's he's untouchable, and that's a problem
Speaker 4: for me because you could have gave him up with
Speaker 4: those picks and when gott it the John T.
Speaker 1: Murray. If the Lakers have the John T.
Speaker 4: Murray, I strongly believe they beat Denver in that series
Speaker 4: because every game was close.
Speaker 2: A point guard that distributed and place defense and could score.
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray was the one that game winner. Game winner
Speaker 4: like the Johntay counseling that out. You need a game
Speaker 4: manager because d Loo is just not cutting it for me.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, He's not cutting you have
Speaker 4: the John T. Murray, they beat Themver.
Speaker 2: I ain't mad at that Cowboys. How about them cowboys.
Speaker 4: Stagst and I into my relationship with them five Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've been I couldn't take it no more. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm just rocking.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm always wishing I wish you would. What say,
Speaker 3: you got another team, bro, We don't do that.
Speaker 1: We lose. We just lose. For years. We stayed. We're
Speaker 1: gonna stay down, We're gonna doing Listen, listen, We're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I don't have another team, right, I'm just a fan
Speaker 4: of the game. But I'm always going route for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: For I just think like Lamar's that dude. I love
Speaker 4: everything about him, the way you carry himself on and
Speaker 4: off the field, how he stay down for the culture
Speaker 4: and he is who he is and he's not apologizing
Speaker 4: for it. But Ship, I'm fucking with the Texans man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm fucking with the Texans.
Speaker 4: J Stroud. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And look, Stack, I keep telling you. I told you
Speaker 4: this three years ago. Why are you like stressing yourself
Speaker 4: out knowing that this is gonna be like it's it's stressful.
Speaker 1: This is our year right here? To do? What to do?
Speaker 1: What come back?
Speaker 2: Three and four? Right at four and four?
Speaker 1: Three the same record as y'all.
Speaker 2: But we all hurt, We all hurt, and we just
Speaker 2: beat y'all hurt.
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons hurting. That's two best, two star defensive ends hurt. See.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I got one person hurt.
Speaker 2: Your quarterback is hurt, man.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you it's been hurt. Let me tell you,
Speaker 4: let me tell you what big bro gotta do. He's
Speaker 4: just well, we grew up in the Golden Triangle. It
Speaker 4: was the Cowboys, was passed down to us and we
Speaker 4: were wins generations great, great, and he know it and
Speaker 4: he just won't break that up. I broke it that
Speaker 4: I ain't. I ain't going to I ain't losing those
Speaker 4: like ter say, oh.
Speaker 1: G time ark doesn't og time warp perk.
Speaker 2: Give me one bold prediction for this year's NBA Season.
Speaker 4: One, Just not a bold prediction, because obviously Phoenix's my
Speaker 4: my dog horse to win it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely a dark horse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a dark I like what Jones brings to
Speaker 2: that team.
Speaker 4: Phoenix is my dog. And think about this for a second.
Speaker 4: KD was pissed this GROWNDO didn't like Frank Vogel last year.
Speaker 4: The motherfucker still averaged twenty seven points. Pissed, not happy,
Speaker 4: KD now and engaged.
Speaker 1: KD. That's happy.
Speaker 4: He's gonna give you everything and more. And what I
Speaker 4: saw was in the Olympics. Fuck that he went out
Speaker 4: and got boockets. We know he's gonna do that, but
Speaker 4: I saw that one game when he was picking up
Speaker 4: ninety four feet. I was like, boy, that KD right there.
Speaker 4: Something different. So but if I had to give a
Speaker 4: bold prediction, my bold prediction probably would be Oklahoma City
Speaker 4: winning a championship. That's not my pick. I feel like
Speaker 4: Boston gonna win that. Yeah, but okay, see win the championship.
Speaker 4: I just I just feel like, really, all teams are practicing,
Speaker 4: Boston gonna take that shit again.
Speaker 3: KT is the only player to come back after Achilles,
Speaker 3: and percentage, percentages and points are win up after the Achilles.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: So so many people, so I always say this, right,
Speaker 4: I want to ask you all this. So many people
Speaker 4: always argue with me about this. In my eyes, KD
Speaker 4: is and I tell y'all, I just want to see
Speaker 4: if y'all agree with me. Y'all probably don't. KD is
Speaker 4: the greatest score to ever touch the basketball.
Speaker 3: Say I'm saying pure score, most efficient. Pure I would
Speaker 3: say most efficient. But piersco I'm going to being an MJ.
Speaker 4: The greatest, the greatest score to ever touch the basketball.
Speaker 2: And what you're thinking behind that, he's lost for sure.
Speaker 4: He's the most efficient. He has zero flaws offensively, no hos,
Speaker 4: no holes, handles, the skills. They are the layoup package.
Speaker 4: They're all finishing around basket, me arranged turn around, one
Speaker 4: legged shots of Henzy, pull of threes however you want it,
Speaker 4: it's there. Name me somebody that's in their tier right now.
Speaker 4: Camello wasn't that efficient. That's the difference. In order to
Speaker 4: be in that conversation, you gotta be efficient. The reason
Speaker 4: why I feel like Kobe is in my top five
Speaker 4: but I can't ever put Cold number one is because
Speaker 4: Cole still one of the all time leaders and miss
Speaker 4: field goals. That's a huge thing.
Speaker 3: That's just like saying, look at the top of the
Speaker 3: list in turnovers, you got d Wade, Broad, Kobe, they
Speaker 3: all of their turnovers all time because they had the
Speaker 3: bottom most.
Speaker 4: I get it, But miss field goals. I mean you
Speaker 4: gotta Jordan shot with like fifty percent from the field
Speaker 4: for his career though.
Speaker 1: Stack Yeah. Facts, That's why I said that.
Speaker 4: That's why it is to me as KD the enjoy Yeah,
Speaker 4: but KD has six eleven seven foot and.
Speaker 1: Nothing he can't do off.
Speaker 2: He's a builder players, he's a you build on two.
Speaker 1: But I'm not mad at anybody. And that wasn't look
Speaker 1: that was not no knocking cold Cold. But my top five.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, when you talk about number one, your scores,
Speaker 4: you gotta check, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta you gotta help of argument that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he checked a box and like you said that,
Speaker 2: he's six eleven six and it's eleven. Yeah, big tree,
Speaker 2: Big tree, breaking news. Young thug is free today. Probation
Speaker 2: justin for forty years, served the first five in prison,
Speaker 2: but they commuted the time as time served. He has
Speaker 2: fifteen years probation. Hold hold up, hold on. So he
Speaker 2: was sentenced to forty years to serve the first five
Speaker 2: in prison, but it was commuted as time already served,
Speaker 2: followed by fifteen years of probation. He's out. Basically at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, he's out. He's on probation
Speaker 2: for the next fifteen years.
Speaker 3: They gave him forty years. Now, I understand they gave
Speaker 3: him time served. He's been in jail with three years
Speaker 3: two years, so they give him time served for that.
Speaker 3: I get that, but I don't understand how you got served.
Speaker 3: He got sentence forty fifteen years of probation is a
Speaker 3: long ass time to not fuck up it all.
Speaker 4: We're living in weird times. Nothing surprises me anymore.
Speaker 2: They got them in. The brothers possibly getting out too.
Speaker 4: There was breaking news, crazy right, Yeah, he brought some
Speaker 4: shit'll be a celebration.
Speaker 3: Yeah, free third. Look Jeff's coming home. They're showing him
Speaker 3: man perk.
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time and congratulations obviously on the new
Speaker 2: contracts and everything you have going, Bron. Continue to to
Speaker 2: continue to be you in a space where not everyone
Speaker 2: can be themselves.
Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all. Yeah, y'all keep doing the same. Man
Speaker 4: leaves showing us how to do it. Is gonna call
Speaker 4: y'all violation because y'all be traveling like a mother these
Speaker 4: motherfuckers everywhere, But y'all doing your thing, y'all.
Speaker 1: Man, love y'all. Man.
Speaker 4: I remember when Bro, I remember when it first started.
Speaker 4: Y'all took a gamble, roll the dice man, and look
Speaker 4: where y'all at.
Speaker 2: We got some merch man.
Speaker 4: Tried to be funny, and ship man going up there.
Speaker 4: Steg Man tried to be funny talking about man size.
Speaker 4: You were two X motherfucker. You know I don't want
Speaker 4: no two x X the tenth grade motherfuckero x five
Speaker 4: bigs right now.
Speaker 1: We might just have to get him a coffee table.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that merch.
Speaker 4: Curtain what nigga?
Speaker 1: You try to be funny that ship two? I wish
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: We got a new all the smoke lighter we're working with.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know what you can do with that.
Speaker 1: What you mean we got We gotta.
Speaker 2: Remember last time you said you you came through and
Speaker 2: with us high for a couple of days.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean I tap it though.
Speaker 2: We got all the smoke you probably you probably give
Speaker 2: that to wife.
Speaker 1: He appreciate.
Speaker 2: And we got our new coffee table book. Bro Come on, man,
Speaker 2: the journey five years in the making.
Speaker 1: You love it. Yeah, your your weed.
Speaker 2: Story is actually here, you talk about it. Where can
Speaker 2: they get that out again?
Speaker 1: The book dot com?
Speaker 2: You can get that book at all the Smoke book
Speaker 2: dot com. Perky were hats? You know you don't wear
Speaker 2: no hat. You got a nice hairline painted painted all
Speaker 2: baby man, that's a wrap All the smoke. You can
Speaker 2: catch this on the Draft Kings Network and all the
Speaker 2: smoke productions. You to go to your suite All.
Speaker 4: The Smoke, Steak five big spell in the build.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We're just trying to make
Speaker 1: it do what we do. Carry on.
Speaker 2: Mm hm
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