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Speaker 2: This is Matt Barnes and you boys Stack five for

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Speaker 2: honor to be selected by Apple Podcasts for the Pick

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Speaker 2: of the Month for the Sports category.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our show, All the Smoke.

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Speaker 3: For the past five years, we've interviewed the biggest stars

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Speaker 3: in sports, culture and entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Like Kobe Bryant, Lil Wayne, Kevin Durant, Dione Sanders, and

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Speaker 2: Pat McAfee.

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Speaker 3: I'll go here is to have an open conversation with

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Speaker 3: I guess and most importantly that you guys get to

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Speaker 3: know your favorite stars as their true selves.

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Speaker 2: So sit back and relax, roll up and enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: M H.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back All the Smoke. Where in our new building

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Speaker 2: is naked, but it's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be sweet soon. Got bilding bro.

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Speaker 2: We got a home and it smells how I was

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Speaker 2: supposed to. It smells smoky man today. Excited to have

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Speaker 2: one of our homeboys, but one of our favorite guests. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: fans love when Park comes on here. They call them

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Speaker 2: Kendrick motherfucking Perkins dropped about seventy motherfuckers, like seventy times

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Speaker 2: last time. One of the comments said, Kendrick Perkins at

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Speaker 2: ESPN is how everyone asks their job, Kendrick Perkers and

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Speaker 2: all the smokers, how they act on their day. Offer.

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Speaker 2: Let's here, damn park, what's going on man? House life

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 4: Man, I can't complain.

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Speaker 1: Man, Nutty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to do what I do. But man, proud

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Speaker 4: of y'all, man, thank you real talk. I'm watching y'all

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Speaker 4: man do y'all thing and doing their child wait uh

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Speaker 4: and continuing to like shine the light on how to

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Speaker 4: do it, how to believe in something and get it done.

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Speaker 4: I ain't know y'all shit, I ain't know y'all had

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Speaker 4: time for y'all little bro see y'all tool, I see

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Speaker 4: y'all with you know what I'm saying, Kamala hand like

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Speaker 4: damn no boys doing a big But I'm proud of

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Speaker 4: y'all man, for I really am. I sit back and

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Speaker 4: I mild what y'all doing man, and how y'all doing it.

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Speaker 2: And I mean it goes right back to you, man,

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Speaker 2: equally as proud as you you know, for you be

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Speaker 2: able to kind of find your lane post career and

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Speaker 2: be one of the most prominent voices in sports. Obviously

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Speaker 2: a new contract with ESPN. Congratulations with that. What has

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Speaker 2: that been like? You know you've been there since nineteen

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Speaker 2: becoming a VET in the space. What has the journey

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Speaker 2: been like for you with ESPN?

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Speaker 4: You know what, It's a lot of sacrifice, right, I

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Speaker 4: and especially when you had the youngest that's going through

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Speaker 4: you know now you know high school and you know

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Speaker 4: going through sports and the sacrifice you got to make

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Speaker 4: us through We know how it feel to miss, to

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Speaker 4: miss all that shit when we was hooping, right, And

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Speaker 4: when you retire, you want to set aside and be there.

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Speaker 4: You want to be there coaching, you want to be

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Speaker 4: there in the workouts and things to that nature. But

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Speaker 4: all in all, it's cool. I'm still grinding. I still

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Speaker 4: got goals that I want to achieve in this space.

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Speaker 4: I'm learning a lot about the business, right, learning to

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Speaker 4: trust no one in this space when it comes down

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Speaker 4: to this workplace. So I treated as so and it's

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Speaker 4: nothing personal because I'm gonna show up and.

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Speaker 2: It's just business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just business.

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Speaker 4: And continue to just work on my craft. You know,

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Speaker 4: obviously I'm gonna drop a lot of hot takes. Some

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Speaker 1: It's cool though, it's cool.

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Speaker 2: Keep it cool, buddy. Hey, So give us, give us

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Speaker 4: On Mondays? You know, I work from home, so it

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Speaker 1: That night. You leave Friday night.

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Speaker 4: four thirty and wake up as soon as I laying ship.

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Speaker 4: I'm right today, you just watching my boys who and

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Speaker 2: To do that's a big sacrifice because obviously as players,

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Speaker 2: So to get back in the mix. And like you said,

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Speaker 1: Oh it is, it is.

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Speaker 4: And shout out to my wife Vanity Perkins man from

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Speaker 4: She loved my sninking ass. She real and she does

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Speaker 1: Stack.

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Speaker 3: Remind us how you and Perk met were from the

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Speaker 3: same area, the Golden trying to put off the Texas

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So was Perk was when

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Speaker 2: Perk your journey in ESPN, anybody you kind of leaned

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Speaker 4: The one guy that that I leaned on, the one

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Speaker 4: Everybody always asking me, what's stephen A like, you know, cool,

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Speaker 4: If you cross him, if you cross them, that's it,

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Speaker 4: that's it coming back. Yeah, it ain't no coming back.

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Speaker 4: So you just think about having an opportunity to even

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Speaker 2: And I know he's up for a new deal soon,

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Speaker 2: so he's hopefully gonna break the bank for sure, break

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Speaker 2: the bank and help everybody else out. What's it like

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Speaker 2: being a regular on Pat McAfee. We really fun with Pat.

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Speaker 2: We got a chance to know him. Jack's already known him.

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Speaker 2: I got a chance to know him a little better

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Speaker 2: at All Star and and uh Indiana. We're drinking core

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Speaker 2: cores lattes. But what's it like being a regular on

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Speaker 4: It's live right because Pat, Pat's gonna do shit his way,

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Speaker 4: but he accepted you for who you are. This was

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Speaker 4: let me tell you something, Pat McAfee is the white

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Speaker 4: version of you, Towbo motherfucker cooler than the motherfucker. And

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Speaker 4: when I realized that was that I actually flew down

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Speaker 1: Oh damn, yeah, Patareal.

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Speaker 4: Pat getting it on in there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Right, Like Pat McAfee called out a real top dog

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Speaker 1: Is it true that the Celtics band from Right.

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Speaker 2: I heard, I heard that they didn't like your tags.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, I wasn't the only motherfucker not there,

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Speaker 4: two things I took from there. One Scale, who the

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Speaker 4: have been a phone conversation, right, So I reached out

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Speaker 4: But I think I'm still like in Boston, but I'm

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Speaker 4: Do just you just gotta understand them, right, Like he

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Speaker 2: And I think like his growing pains were on TV,

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, definitely everybody has growth, so I get it.

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Speaker 2: I like that y'all was able to talk it out though.

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Speaker 2: Take basically what he's saying is your word carry a

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Speaker 4: I do now I do so you know, I've been

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Speaker 4: dialing back more so I'm still gonna critique, uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: to a level where god Field attack or feel like,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was disrespectful.

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Speaker 4: So I went back and I thought about that. I

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Speaker 4: It's a lot different, uh than if you're shocked Barkley. Uh,

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Speaker 4: you know Tom Brady, Like.

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Speaker 3: Let me say this, You got to Boston, became a

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Speaker 1: We was playing summer basketball.

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Speaker 3: He was taking the ball off the rebind and bringing

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Speaker 3: it's a real thing. But you know, coming into this

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Speaker 3: you're not a Hall of Fame, Right, they roll the

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Speaker 3: red carpet out for Shack When he retired, like you know,

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Speaker 3: those guys get opportunities should they should, but like.

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Speaker 4: Myself, I have to work for it. And the way

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Speaker 3: Smoking Baron and Jmon have some stuff to say about it.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. That's a Kendrick Perkins telling Kawhi he need

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Speaker 4: to retire.

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Speaker 1: That's sick coming from Kendrick Perkins, coming from perk last

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Speaker 4: Nobody was pushing him to retirement and everybody probably should have.

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Speaker 4: I mean, point five points for three years straight.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to respond.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I respond to it now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean they called you right after saying Kawai should retire.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was crazy because Perk his last three

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Speaker 3: Everybody probably should have. The man average two point five

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Speaker 4: I think Draymond Well, actually that's a lie because people

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Speaker 4: in and be a big man coach. Right Okay, see

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Speaker 4: they literally wanted me to retire. It was like, purk,

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Speaker 4: why you in the G League? I was like, I

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So it was trying to do that. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: If you go back.

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Speaker 4: And watch the the entire segment of me talking about Kawhi,

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Speaker 4: it didn't come from a place of me being malicious.

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Speaker 4: It came from a place of me being concerned.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many games he's missed, Like right now

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Speaker 1: You just they can't be hated.

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Speaker 3: If you're watching basketball, you're watching the clipers, you've seen

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Speaker 3: that place. Yeah, that makes sense saying maybe you should

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Speaker 3: tell me about I said it like this. I was like, hey, look,

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Speaker 3: Kauhi is a future Hall of Famer, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge.

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Speaker 4: Fan of Kawhi. I said, I think it's time for

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Speaker 4: him to have that uncomfortable conversation with his family the

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Speaker 4: how many guys, how many guys former teammates or players

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Speaker 4: we know that had to retire because the bone on

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Speaker 4: the fact that he walked away from the Olympics basically

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Speaker 4: you get to the season and it's something else.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: I just think, while will never be one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: from a place of concern. It wasn't like the retired

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Speaker 1: No.

439
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Speaker 4: It was like, bro, like the knees might be really shot.

440
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 4: I thought it was a fast tape, a fas assessment

441
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: and it wasn't a hot tape. It was like, Bros,

442
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 4: you need to really figure out what's going on.

443
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 2: How many years does he played dying eleven, twelve, twelve,

444
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: and too something else interesting that kind of came out

445
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: of not out of that, but since you know, his

446
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: trainering from college that he had with him got fired

447
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: by the Clippers and he's suing the team now and

448
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: documents are coming out where he was supposed to be

449
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: out for two years and they put him back in

450
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 2: and all that kind of something.

451
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: About that you're supposed to be out for two years?

452
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: Two years? Like, what's really going on? And no one knows.

453
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 4: No one knows what's going on with Kawhi. No one

454
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 4: knows in the organization. He has his own doctors, right,

455
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 4: a lot of times t lou don't find out until

456
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: shoot around if he's available or not, right, Like, that's

457
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: how quiet he is behind the scenes. So that just

458
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: came from a place of concern. But you know, uh, Draymond,

459
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: you know he took it and ran with it. You

460
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I fuck with BD, So Draymond,

461
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: I guess BD put the key in Draymond back and

462
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 4: he felt good about.

463
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Speaker 1: It, but I have to check somebody.

464
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Speaker 4: The reason I didn't entertain that on the internet is

465
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: because I had to check Chandler Parsons about.

466
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Speaker 1: It as well.

467
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: Like he said it before them, like this ain't this

468
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 4: hot take? Ain't it? But I didn't go with him

469
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 4: on the internet. I called him like what the fuck

470
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Speaker 4: you mean? You don't understand what I'm saying? Like you

471
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 4: were tired because you was injured, like.

472
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Speaker 2: That overreaction segment. We got a little segment for you

473
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: part with a few weeks into the season. I'm gonna

474
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: say a statement. All you gotta let me know is

475
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: if you it's an overreaction or you agree with that

476
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: chat could end up having as good a career as Wimby.

477
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: You're on record calling him the White KG. His numbers

478
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: currently are better than Wemby's. Thoughts on check could have

479
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 2: just as good, I wouldn't even say better, just as

480
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Speaker 2: good can he does? He have the talent to be

481
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: just as good as Wimby is good.

482
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Speaker 3: But the White KG slowed down then, But White.

483
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Speaker 1: KG is kind of early for that, I know.

484
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Speaker 4: But see, look.

485
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Speaker 1: But look we're going that right now.

486
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Speaker 4: But look, Stack, this is what I said again, it

487
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: was a night after he dominated and he buzz he

488
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 4: busts yo ass okay, And what ended up happening was

489
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: he blocked his shot on one end. I'm talking about,

490
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 4: like beat that shit up, sprinted down the floor and they.

491
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: Hit him down the lane.

492
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 4: He came with one of those leaners like KG, and

493
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: he was just yelling and shit like that. And that's

494
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: when I was like, oh, last night, that motherfucker was

495
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 4: like a white KG because it was like all across

496
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: the board at that side that's twenty five points and

497
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 4: you know, thirteen fourteen boards, four blocks. I'm like, oh,

498
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 4: this motherfucker on and he takes matchups personal yeah, and

499
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: it's not yeah, and he's not afraid to God. So

500
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Chat. I'm like, one, Chat is just

501
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: as skilled as Victor. He's more physical to me, he

502
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: has more dog in him in my opinion, and he's

503
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: more polished at this point. So I think as much

504
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: as we hype up and talk because and rightfully so,

505
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: with the potential of Victor win beyond, but Chet is

506
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 4: looking him out of eye. So absolutely he could have

507
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: a better career than Victor winbim death.

508
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: I had ship at the Officer game. I seen the

509
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: switch switching him that week at the Officer game. You know,

510
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: I was read in his and his pops was there,

511
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: and it's just probably came into him like stay on

512
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: him like that.

513
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Speaker 1: So Check he had that dog and him coming out

514
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Speaker 1: of high school. Yeah, he had it in him. Every drill. Yup,

515
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: I guess, Polo yup?

516
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 2: Could they go down as the best one two combo

517
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: that we've seen, Pollow and Check as far as first pick,

518
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: second pick, and both living up to what they hollow hollow,

519
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: hollow and is killing.

520
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Speaker 4: I worked it, Carol, Look, I watched it. I worked

521
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: the draft and people was tripping out on me, killing

522
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 4: me on the internet. If you take Ben Simmons prime,

523
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons his first three years, okay, first three years,

524
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Speaker 4: and you take Mike Beasley and these motherfuckers have a baby,

525
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: you get Pollow Ben Carrol, that's who you get. He's

526
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Speaker 4: that polarizing. So Ben Simmons attacking down hell the first

527
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: three years he was starting off. That's Pollo, right. And

528
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: if you look at Polo game, but Carol game, when

529
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: he's turning around, his his jab steps and all that, Yes,

530
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: Beasley doing it from the left hand standpoint, but Polo

531
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: doing it from the right hand standpoint? Now, can he

532
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 4: get better for us making shots like Beesley? Absolutely? But man,

533
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: he's definitely one of them, definitely wanted.

534
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's some notable one two Pitch, Shaq

535
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: and Zoe, old school Jerry Weston, Oscar Robinson one too. Yeah,

536
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: So don't kill me for that statement. Was just a

537
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: matterfucking question. I was asking a question. But under twenty five,

538
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: who who would be another center you would pick outside

539
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: of Wimby and Checked. I like sing Goon mobiley Lively

540
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Speaker 2: triple J one for Dallas Lively Lively Lively.

541
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Speaker 1: I like him.

542
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: I like sing Gooon. I like because he's a goon too.

543
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: I like some goon too.

544
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: And he just got paid too, what.

545
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Speaker 1: Kay?

546
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah he should have got I think he's a baby Yokic.

547
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 4: He's a baby because he fills up the statue. Yeah,

548
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: he got the he got the whole package. He got

549
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: the whole package. Even Mobley. It's finally starting to like

550
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: turn that corner though.

551
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Like three, yeah is year three for him?

552
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: Still, I still need to see a little bit more dog,

553
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I think he got it

554
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: in him, but he's turning that corner. But I would

555
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: have to go with Shangun for sure.

556
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: I like him the evolution of the five man. You know,

557
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: for a while he you know, they said he was

558
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: out the game obviously, Yo kitchen and beads, versatility, been

559
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: playing five and then be able to do a little

560
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: bit of everything. Do you think that the league will

561
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's do you think the league will

562
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: head back towards old school five? It would always have

563
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: to be a versatile five.

564
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 4: I think it's it's gonna always have to be a

565
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 4: versatile five. But I'm just happy that bigs are relevant

566
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 4: for a minute. W it was about a three four

567
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: year window. It was all periminal.

568
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: I think some team's gonna go back to the two

569
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: bigs because the small guard it's not working for everybody,

570
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: like certain teams is gonna work for But some team's

571
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: gonna need to go back to the old style. I'm

572
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: with you if they don't because they don't have the guards.

573
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

574
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: They can get the guard ball exactly.

575
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 4: But see here's the thing, right, and this is this

576
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: is a conversation that needs to be had and I'm

577
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: glad I'm here with two guys that actually know the

578
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: game and understand what I'm about to say. Like when

579
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 4: the Celtics, you know, have Christa Perzingers in the lineup,

580
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: are they really small?

581
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: Right?

582
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum six nine six ten?

583
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: Right?

584
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: Is that is that? Is that small? Just because he's

585
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: able to play on the perimeter. But should he still

586
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: average about nine rebounds last year? I think he could

587
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: take a step further than average ten or eleven?

588
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Good? So is that really small? Ball? Is a small ball.

589
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: Because he's able to stress them because he's able to

590
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 4: shoot the right right, But is it really small? Like

591
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: people are like, oh, yeah, the Celtics played a small

592
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 4: ball with Chris stiph Christoph Perzingers, And I'm like, well, ship,

593
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: Derek White is one of the most He's one of

594
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: the best rebounding guards in the league. Drew Holliday is

595
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: one of the best rebounding guards in the league. So

596
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: are they really small though? Like six all the way

597
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: through the lineup?

598
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: Nah? No?

599
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, but I like to see it. And Dereck Lively, man,

600
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Speaker 4: I'm telling you he fun.

601
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: He's funny. He's fun.

602
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: Make sure how many teams last year at the trade

603
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: dead line, dropped the ball by not getting Daniel Gaffer.

604
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: He's a backup over there.

605
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: Well they got him starting now, But I think that's

606
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 4: I think that's Jay Kidd playing like the mind ga

607
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: lively to keep them hungry. But think about what Daniel

608
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: Gaffer could be going for the Lakers or what he

609
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 4: could be doing for Ship Phoenix. Because I take Daniel Gaffer,

610
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: I like plumb nurkish bothers me right, he gets all

611
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: my damn nurves because he just don't know his roll.

612
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: Imagine they had a legit live thread like Daniel Gaffer live,

613
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: and I think they got him for like a two

614
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: second round picks or some ship.

615
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Speaker 1: Is this an overreaction?

616
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Speaker 3: You was the main reason why yours are taking over

617
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: the Americans spot in the NBA.

618
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: Hell now, it's not an overreaction. It's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: Six straight years MVP has been foreigner, too straight for him.

620
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know why, because they are all.

621
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Speaker 3: They taking this ship serious. Ain't worry about I G

622
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: likes and videos and ship like that. They just out

623
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: there hooping on the blacktop.

624
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: Still, they out there hooping, and they so so. My

625
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: middle son Kingston, he had so He had a teammate

626
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: that was a little point guard named Dax Mitchell. He

627
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: was out of New Orleans. His dad worked at a refinery,

628
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: ended up taking a job over in the Netherlands, right,

629
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: so they relocated. And he called me said part this

630
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: shitt night and day. So I'm like, well, what you mean?

631
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: He like, Man, we playing AAU games every weekend, we traveling,

632
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: He'll be traveling there over here. They play one time

633
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: a week, practice for rest, then practice the risk yep

634
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: four to ten minute quarters one time a week and

635
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: they practice and training. Mak yeah, yeah, And I think

636
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: that's that's what we miss.

637
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: I would say. And to me, it's not even better.

638
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: They have a better understanding of how to play basketball,

639
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because I feel like the

640
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: American kids are just as skilled, if not more skilled,

641
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: but it's just with the ball. So they don't know

642
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: how to play off the ball. They don't know how

643
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: to play team basketball, they don't know how to fit

644
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: in the system. The European people, obviously because the NBA

645
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: game has changed more terms of the European game. Anyway,

646
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: we were talking about the bigs being obsolete, more running, gunning,

647
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: you know, foul for a lot of free throws. But

648
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: I feel like with this game where they you know,

649
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: they practice a bunch and then they play one time,

650
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: they're actually learning the skill set of skill set in

651
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: high IQ. And that's why I feel like you see

652
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: a ton of talented American kids kind of wash out

653
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: because they don't understand if they don't have the ball,

654
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: they don't know what.

655
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Speaker 1: The to do.

656
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: No, I agree, And y'all think about this for a second.

657
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: How many former players do y'all see now coaching their

658
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: son's team.

659
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: And aging the right way I was doing it.

660
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: I didn't want to fucking be coaching, but I can't

661
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: sit back on the sideline and watch somebody else coach

662
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: who's not teaching these kids how to play the game

663
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: the right way. So all of a sudden, I didn't

664
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: accepted another job I didn't plan on doing, to go

665
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: out here and try.

666
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: To you know, for free talk and like you know

667
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like.

668
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: Why coach, bro?

669
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like.

670
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: Quality of coaching is bullshit and there's some good ones.

671
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, But if I offend you by

672
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: saying there's some bullshit coaching or the aus because you're bullshit.

673
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a nothing. I'm telling you. I went

674
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: to look it was.

675
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: It was an eighth grade team and squad was quote

676
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: unquote supposed to be an elite team. They didn't even

677
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: know what the d h O was. That's a problem, like, yeah,

678
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: what do you like, what's really going on? You don't

679
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: know what the d h O is.

680
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: Have you had any bad experiences with parents, other coaches,

681
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: referees during your a you run?

682
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I didn't, got, I got I didn't have

683
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: my fair share getting kicked out the game for damn

684
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: show right for the Rials.

685
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: But what the d h O d like a hand

686
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: off if you dribble hand off?

687
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, don't over thinking. You knew it he put Yallas,

688
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: but you know, but yeah, I mean that's why that's

689
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: why I don't coach no more.

690
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Right, I don't.

691
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: I don't coach my son's team no more because it

692
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: was disturbing my peace from the other parents, right, like

693
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: it was for real, man, it was disturbing my peace.

694
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: Like I'm getting in the call going home on I'm pissed. Man, Yeah,

695
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: I'm mad because the motherfucker mad at me because I

696
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: ain't your son didn't bring the ball up like your

697
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: son had literally sixteen points just off of playing his

698
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: role and cutting and knocking down shots.

699
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: But you're telling me I'm.

700
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: Taking away from his development because he's actually not bringing

701
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: the ball up the floor. So at that point, I'm like, nah,

702
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 4: you got it, y'all go find something else. I broke

703
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: up the team. Matter of fact, I'm gonna take mine

704
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: and he gonna go play up two grades and I'm

705
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: gonna go put him in somebody else hands that I

706
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 4: do trust with this organization. And y'all go ahead. They

707
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: circle back, like come on this. I'm like, hell nah,

708
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: hell no, I'm already tied coming off the plane. And

709
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 4: then y'all stressing me out over some bullshit.

710
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: Andy'll pay me, and I got you got to pay

711
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: for a whole bunch of other kids. And thoughts on

712
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: whold backs and double whole backs.

713
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: What if I what if I I'd have done that

714
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: in high school?

715
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 4: Man, you wasn't wasn't gonna that you do that. Boo

716
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: wasn't go boo that.

717
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: They wasn't gonna let you do that.

718
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, right, my oldest is a reclass, right,

719
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: but he's not in the reclass because of sports. Right,

720
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 4: he just went to homeschool for two years right after COVID.

721
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: He stayed in homeschool, and I felt like he was

722
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: behind for like his social ship, and so I was like, nah, bro,

723
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: like this ain't it like you're not ready to go

724
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: to the ninth grade. So that, yeah, I made him

725
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 4: go back to school for his eighth grade year, but

726
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 4: he didn't just I mean he didn't started playing basketball

727
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: to literally like a year ago. He's a sophomore and

728
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: now like until he got to ninth grade and he

729
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: played football, but he never was like all in on sports.

730
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: There was more so of a move like like my nigga,

731
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: you gotta get out of.

732
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: Your shit social yeah, like one of my one of

733
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: my sons is like that.

734
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: We thought about it.

735
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: He just wasn't ready for what level.

736
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: Of yeah, yeah this is coming.

737
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: That's the reason I've done it, And I think I

738
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: just had to do it as a parent, not in

739
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: a bad way. I think the worst thing that I've

740
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: done with my oldest child was named him Kendrick Perkins Junior.

741
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: For him.

742
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: I should have because he shied away from shit like that, right,

743
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: I could have named him something else, gave him his

744
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 4: own identity right, like, but my thirteen year old thought

745
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 4: he actually embraced shit like that, like he wont the

746
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: shit he wants the cameras, he won't get attention, and

747
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: he goes shine in it. But my oldest ain't. You know,

748
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 4: he fought n ain't his thing. And I'm okay with it.

749
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: Smart kid, you know, real great, you know, great kid.

750
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: I love him to death. Know the Bible in and

751
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: I out know his books. You know, he didn't won

752
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: awards all across America far as in his books. And

753
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 4: I'm okay with it, you know what I mean. But

754
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 4: I think that was the one thing that I see

755
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: that I should have done differently.

756
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: Overreaction, Bucks fan should be worried about losing Yannis. CBS

757
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: recently reported the teams are circling around preparing for a

758
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: Janni's opportunity. Obviously, we don't know what's gonna happen with

759
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Middleton and he continues to be injury riddled. I think

760
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: Lillard is gonna have a bounce back season. A lot

761
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: of shit going on in his personal life. He's allowed

762
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: to focus on basketball again. But have the Bucks missed

763
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: the window?

764
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: I think one.

765
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 4: You can't trusts no more right and what he's what

766
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: he's capable of doing.

767
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: So why you say that because.

768
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 4: One okay, put pressure on the organization to make.

769
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: A move and to bring the Nassis back.

770
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, that's a whole other story.

771
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: Shout out the nasty. I thought they brought it back back.

772
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: They wanted back. Shout out the nastis man.

773
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they want I think they want

774
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: to bring him back to kind of secure comfortability.

775
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: Nas Shout out the Nasais Jis he wanted. He made

776
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: a move before he said the extension, He went out

777
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: public and said some things. So they make a move

778
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: out of desperation and get dang right, and you give

779
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: up Drew Holliday. Then last year you fire Agent Griffin.

780
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: Okay, did you mean because you are more ear to

781
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: the Did you find out what the reason behind that was?

782
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: No? But but but I do know this.

783
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: There were sixteen and four.

784
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: Thirteen second in the Yeah, because you got blood on

785
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: your hands. And to be honest with you, the Bucks

786
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: ain't doing shit this offseason while everybody else was making

787
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: powerful moves. And you watch the Knicks go get Michel Bridges,

788
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: You watch the Knicks go get called Anthony Towns. You

789
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 4: watch Philly make a move for PG. You watch all

790
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: these teams go out and try to, like, you know,

791
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: stack the dicks just to go compete if they have

792
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: an opportunity against the Celtics. Right, No, not, But Milwaukee

793
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: when got Gartrn Jr. Entorian Prince Chris Middleton coming off

794
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: for two ankle surgeries. That shit done right, Doc, text

795
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: Doc before I said a bottom on TV. Motherfucker your

796
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: ass on the clock. You gotta do something, Doc, real talk.

797
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 4: I've been to your come to your defense so many times,

798
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: but at this point, you didn't achieve much with the

799
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 4: Clippers of Philly. You gotta fucking deliver, you know what

800
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: I mean? And I think one I think. I think

801
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: if they don't make it to the NBA Finals this year,

802
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 4: I can see Milwaukee going in a different direction, or

803
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: Yannis one.

804
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: Out Nuggets with RUSS championship team, or they need to

805
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: ask some add something else to be back at championship

806
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: for him.

807
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 4: I'm not banking on Russ. I think Russ is gonna

808
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 4: do some good things for them. Man, it's Sama Murray

809
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 4: for me. We should have a better year. My point,

810
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: because you can play off the bar and beer two go.

811
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 4: He's a better score anyway he is. But but but

812
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: stack man, when the fuck we go see it? Like

813
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: real talk, like in Spurts.

814
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: We see it in Spurs.

815
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we see it in the playoffs. But when

816
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 4: do we really go see it? The new norm in

817
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 4: the NBA is thirty, right, Like that's that show. That's

818
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: the twenty of when we was actually you know what

819
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 4: I'm saying, when we was in the league, like doing

820
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: our thing like most folks, was averaging the highest score

821
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: at that time, probably twenty five, twenty eight, Like last

822
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: season was his best season at twenty one. Like at

823
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: some point, Bro, you gotta help a brother.

824
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: I yeah, you can't just.

825
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: Lean on Yokis this whole time, Like you supposed to

826
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: be one of them.

827
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: Was maxed, right, you got a max deal.

828
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you did. So you think, let let go KCP.

829
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 4: When are you gonna take that next step? Like, when

830
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: are you gonna take that next step? Like nineteen points?

831
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: Ain't getting it?

832
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: Like, what's up with you?

833
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: Well?

834
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: I think what was it? What was the the GM's name, Tim? Yeah?

835
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: So Tim Conley helped build that team and then left

836
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: the year after they won the championship. The year they

837
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: won the championship and Calvin Booth's taken over since then,

838
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: and since then, it's to me it's been a decline.

839
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 2: I mean, they lost Bruce Brown, they lost Jeff Green,

840
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: they lost KCP, there's one other person I think they lost,

841
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: but they haven't necessarily filled those boys.

842
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: And you know as Green.

843
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned Jeff Green, but you know how key

844
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: role players are in certain situations. That's why you didn't

845
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: see Boston really let go with nobody. You know, they like, shit,

846
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: we won, We're hoping for Zingis, you know, can play

847
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: more and let's really run it back. But I think

848
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: from the day they won the championship, it's kind of

849
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: been a downhill as far as losing pieces that you

850
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 2: didn't know where as key as they were for your team.

851
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: It seemed like to me that they'll go on the

852
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: cheap brother, they're never gonna pay. They're never gonna pay,

853
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: so every time they get an opportunity to stay below.

854
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: And I'm still trying to figure that shit out too,

855
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 4: that whole first Apron, Second Apron, all that shit with

856
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 4: the new CBA, but small market, they're never gonna be

857
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: in the luxury tags. They're gonna make.

858
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Sure that right.

859
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: But they still even even with losing those pieces, even

860
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: if you're banking on Christian Brown to come in and

861
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: elevate his game, but you still got the core.

862
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: You still got a core four, right, you still have

863
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: paid a lot of money to Aaron Gordon.

864
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: Like, when is Michael Porter Jr. Gonna take that lead?

865
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: What's wrong?

866
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: Stay? I I want to see him do more?

867
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 4: Broo, Michael Porter.

868
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

869
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Like that's a that's like you got

870
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: four you got four guys that like, really an all star,

871
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: accountable players should be in the dick of things.

872
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: The West is a mystery.

873
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could look at Okay see and say, oh

874
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 4: yeah they coming out of the West, they look damn good.

875
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Or it could be the Mavericks.

876
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: But outside of that, like to me, I feel like

877
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: it's up for grounds.

878
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: Who gets traded, person who leaves their team person. I

879
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: think I think yok is a life for he. Yeah,

880
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: for sure, when I lose, he gonna be there.

881
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: And you always got to think, although you know they're

882
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: both small markets. Milwaukee is a very small market, and

883
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: Giannis hasn't really been on a big team that's on

884
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: a big stage and the major media.

885
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: We've been talking about playing the Golden State for the

886
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: last three four years. I've been showing pictures of him

887
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: in Golden State.

888
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: Golden State look like I can't do right now, They're

889
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 4: looking good.

890
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: They needed one.

891
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: Person that I ain't gonna lie, one person keep out

892
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 4: on this, uh because the Pelicans, Man, I don't know

893
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: what they're doing, but brandon Ingram. I like he's gonna

894
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: be the guy that's going into up Yeah, and I

895
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 4: wonder where he's gonna go, because he definitely could change

896
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: some ship we'll be going, especially if it's a good tender.

897
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: He got a lot of game overreaction. Anthony Davis is

898
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: the best big in the league.

899
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 4: After I don't think it's overreaction. I ain't I ain't

900
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: gonna I ain't gonna lie. I think damn JJ been

901
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: coaching as I've been watching that motherfucker. I've been wanting

902
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: to hate on him so bad on the TV, but

903
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 4: I fuck with JJ. But man, JJ been coaching his

904
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 4: ass off man and he he's unlocked somewhere A did

905
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 4: And I think it's the dog fund. Like we've been

906
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: waiting on him to like we knew he you know,

907
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: we know that he's one of the most skilled power

908
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: forwards that we've seen, but it's the sets and everything.

909
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 4: Third in the league and scoring right now, and he's

910
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: just playing with a different type of tenacity and edge

911
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: and it's showing it off.

912
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, he is.

913
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: Looking like the second best big in the league right now.

914
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 4: I can't. I gotta give him his props.

915
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: Is there a piece you feel like the Lakers could

916
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: use that'll put them in championship?

917
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: Yes, they didn't get it last year. They should have

918
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: got it last year. What is the what the Lakers missing?

919
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: Show that that part's big? Huh big, most important part

920
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: because a D still could ankle the five pretty damn good.

921
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: If you go back and look at that Denver series

922
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: last year, a D held his own with yow.

923
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: Man.

924
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 4: You gotta have defense in the Western Conference. You got

925
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: too many motherfuckers that could go get it from Anthony Elwis,

926
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: Luca Kyrie, k D book. You gotta have for remember

927
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 4: the defense. If the Lakers would just not be I

928
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: don't know what it is. I like Austin Reeves, but

929
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: they act like he's he's untouchable, and that's a problem

930
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: for me because you could have gave him up with

931
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 4: those picks and when gott it the John T.

932
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Murray. If the Lakers have the John T.

933
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: Murray, I strongly believe they beat Denver in that series

934
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 4: because every game was close.

935
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: A point guard that distributed and place defense and could score.

936
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray was the one that game winner. Game winner

937
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 4: like the Johntay counseling that out. You need a game

938
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: manager because d Loo is just not cutting it for me.

939
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, He's not cutting you have

940
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 4: the John T. Murray, they beat Themver.

941
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: I ain't mad at that Cowboys. How about them cowboys.

942
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 4: Stagst and I into my relationship with them five Yeah,

943
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: I've been I couldn't take it no more. I mean,

944
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: I'm just rocking.

945
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 3: Look, I'm always wishing I wish you would. What say,

946
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: you got another team, bro, We don't do that.

947
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: We lose. We just lose. For years. We stayed. We're

948
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: gonna stay down, We're gonna doing Listen, listen, We're gonna lose.

949
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

950
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: I don't have another team, right, I'm just a fan

951
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: of the game. But I'm always going route for Lamar Jackson.

952
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: For I just think like Lamar's that dude. I love

953
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: everything about him, the way you carry himself on and

954
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: off the field, how he stay down for the culture

955
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 4: and he is who he is and he's not apologizing

956
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: for it. But Ship, I'm fucking with the Texans man,

957
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm fucking with the Texans.

958
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: J Stroud. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you.

959
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

960
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: And look, Stack, I keep telling you. I told you

961
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: this three years ago. Why are you like stressing yourself

962
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: out knowing that this is gonna be like it's it's stressful.

963
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: This is our year right here? To do? What to do?

964
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: What come back?

965
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: Three and four? Right at four and four?

966
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: Three the same record as y'all.

967
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: But we all hurt, We all hurt, and we just

968
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: beat y'all hurt.

969
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons hurting. That's two best, two star defensive ends hurt. See.

970
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I got one person hurt.

971
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: Your quarterback is hurt, man.

972
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: Let me tell you it's been hurt. Let me tell you,

973
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 4: let me tell you what big bro gotta do. He's

974
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: just well, we grew up in the Golden Triangle. It

975
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: was the Cowboys, was passed down to us and we

976
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 4: were wins generations great, great, and he know it and

977
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: he just won't break that up. I broke it that

978
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: I ain't. I ain't going to I ain't losing those

979
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: like ter say, oh.

980
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: G time ark doesn't og time warp perk.

981
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: Give me one bold prediction for this year's NBA Season.

982
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: One, Just not a bold prediction, because obviously Phoenix's my

983
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: my dog horse to win it all.

984
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely a dark horse.

985
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a dark I like what Jones brings to

986
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: that team.

987
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: Phoenix is my dog. And think about this for a second.

988
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: KD was pissed this GROWNDO didn't like Frank Vogel last year.

989
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 4: The motherfucker still averaged twenty seven points. Pissed, not happy,

990
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: KD now and engaged.

991
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: KD. That's happy.

992
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: He's gonna give you everything and more. And what I

993
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: saw was in the Olympics. Fuck that he went out

994
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: and got boockets. We know he's gonna do that, but

995
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 4: I saw that one game when he was picking up

996
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 4: ninety four feet. I was like, boy, that KD right there.

997
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: Something different. So but if I had to give a

998
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 4: bold prediction, my bold prediction probably would be Oklahoma City

999
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: winning a championship. That's not my pick. I feel like

1000
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: Boston gonna win that. Yeah, but okay, see win the championship.

1001
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: I just I just feel like, really, all teams are practicing,

1002
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 4: Boston gonna take that shit again.

1003
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: KT is the only player to come back after Achilles,

1004
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 3: and percentage, percentages and points are win up after the Achilles.

1005
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1006
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: So so many people, so I always say this, right,

1007
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 4: I want to ask you all this. So many people

1008
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 4: always argue with me about this. In my eyes, KD

1009
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 4: is and I tell y'all, I just want to see

1010
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 4: if y'all agree with me. Y'all probably don't. KD is

1011
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: the greatest score to ever touch the basketball.

1012
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: Say I'm saying pure score, most efficient. Pure I would

1013
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: say most efficient. But piersco I'm going to being an MJ.

1014
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 4: The greatest, the greatest score to ever touch the basketball.

1015
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: And what you're thinking behind that, he's lost for sure.

1016
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 4: He's the most efficient. He has zero flaws offensively, no hos,

1017
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: no holes, handles, the skills. They are the layoup package.

1018
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: They're all finishing around basket, me arranged turn around, one

1019
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: legged shots of Henzy, pull of threes however you want it,

1020
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: it's there. Name me somebody that's in their tier right now.

1021
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 4: Camello wasn't that efficient. That's the difference. In order to

1022
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 4: be in that conversation, you gotta be efficient. The reason

1023
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: why I feel like Kobe is in my top five

1024
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: but I can't ever put Cold number one is because

1025
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: Cole still one of the all time leaders and miss

1026
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 4: field goals. That's a huge thing.

1027
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: That's just like saying, look at the top of the

1028
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: list in turnovers, you got d Wade, Broad, Kobe, they

1029
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: all of their turnovers all time because they had the

1030
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: bottom most.

1031
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 4: I get it, But miss field goals. I mean you

1032
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: gotta Jordan shot with like fifty percent from the field

1033
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: for his career though.

1034
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Stack Yeah. Facts, That's why I said that.

1035
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 4: That's why it is to me as KD the enjoy Yeah,

1036
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 4: but KD has six eleven seven foot and.

1037
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: Nothing he can't do off.

1038
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: He's a builder players, he's a you build on two.

1039
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: But I'm not mad at anybody. And that wasn't look

1040
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: that was not no knocking cold Cold. But my top five.

1041
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying, when you talk about number one, your scores,

1042
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: you gotta check, you.

1043
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Gotta you gotta help of argument that too.

1044
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he checked a box and like you said that,

1045
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: he's six eleven six and it's eleven. Yeah, big tree,

1046
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: Big tree, breaking news. Young thug is free today. Probation

1047
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: justin for forty years, served the first five in prison,

1048
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: but they commuted the time as time served. He has

1049
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: fifteen years probation. Hold hold up, hold on. So he

1050
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: was sentenced to forty years to serve the first five

1051
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: in prison, but it was commuted as time already served,

1052
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: followed by fifteen years of probation. He's out. Basically at

1053
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: the end of the day, he's out. He's on probation

1054
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: for the next fifteen years.

1055
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: They gave him forty years. Now, I understand they gave

1056
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 3: him time served. He's been in jail with three years

1057
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: two years, so they give him time served for that.

1058
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: I get that, but I don't understand how you got served.

1059
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: He got sentence forty fifteen years of probation is a

1060
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: long ass time to not fuck up it all.

1061
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 4: We're living in weird times. Nothing surprises me anymore.

1062
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: They got them in. The brothers possibly getting out too.

1063
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: There was breaking news, crazy right, Yeah, he brought some

1064
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: shit'll be a celebration.

1065
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, free third. Look Jeff's coming home. They're showing him

1066
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: man perk.

1067
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time and congratulations obviously on the new

1068
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: contracts and everything you have going, Bron. Continue to to

1069
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: continue to be you in a space where not everyone

1070
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: can be themselves.

1071
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all. Yeah, y'all keep doing the same. Man

1072
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: leaves showing us how to do it. Is gonna call

1073
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: y'all violation because y'all be traveling like a mother these

1074
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: motherfuckers everywhere, But y'all doing your thing, y'all.

1075
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: Man, love y'all. Man.

1076
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: I remember when Bro, I remember when it first started.

1077
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 4: Y'all took a gamble, roll the dice man, and look

1078
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: where y'all at.

1079
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: We got some merch man.

1080
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: Tried to be funny, and ship man going up there.

1081
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 4: Steg Man tried to be funny talking about man size.

1082
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: You were two X motherfucker. You know I don't want

1083
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: no two x X the tenth grade motherfuckero x five

1084
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 4: bigs right now.

1085
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: We might just have to get him a coffee table.

1086
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: But I don't know that merch.

1087
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 4: Curtain what nigga?

1088
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: You try to be funny that ship two? I wish

1089
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: I was.

1090
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: We got a new all the smoke lighter we're working with.

1091
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

1092
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know what you can do with that.

1093
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: What you mean we got We gotta.

1094
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: Remember last time you said you you came through and

1095
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: with us high for a couple of days.

1096
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean I tap it though.

1097
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: We got all the smoke you probably you probably give

1098
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: that to wife.

1099
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: He appreciate.

1100
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: And we got our new coffee table book. Bro Come on, man,

1101
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: the journey five years in the making.

1102
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: You love it. Yeah, your your weed.

1103
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: Story is actually here, you talk about it. Where can

1104
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 2: they get that out again?

1105
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: The book dot com?

1106
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: You can get that book at all the Smoke book

1107
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: dot com. Perky were hats? You know you don't wear

1108
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: no hat. You got a nice hairline painted painted all

1109
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: baby man, that's a wrap All the smoke. You can

1110
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: catch this on the Draft Kings Network and all the

1111
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: smoke productions. You to go to your suite All.

1112
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: The Smoke, Steak five big spell in the build.

1113
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We're just trying to make

1114
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: it do what we do. Carry on.

1115
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Mm hm

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Speaker 1: M hm hm